It's obvious that your main concern is maintaining a 66 Book canon. Did you know that Jesus on two seperate occations and James also once quoted books outside of the accepted 66 books. Btw, Both Jesus and James when quoting those books called them " Scripture" Since Jesus Himself testifies of books outside of the 66 books, I'm gonna believe Jesus over you guys.
Didn't Jesus said that angels DO NOT have sex? Didn't Jesus Himself said after His ressurection, that spirit doesn't have flesh and bones? While we have angels who seduce the daughters of men, and had sex with them in the book of Enoch. I know that Jude wrote about angels who walk outside of their boundary, but this could mean the demons aka the fallen angels. In Jesus's time, there never were hybrids of angels and humans, and we have A LOT of demons and evil spirits work around. If the fallen are real, then there should exist some hybrids in Jesus's time. Because in the book of Enoch, there were hybrids. But there weren't. And MOST importantly, Jesus is the Son of Man, not Enoch.
Hebrews 11:13 does not say Enoch died. I believe Enoch will experience death along with Elijah. Revelation illustrates two prophets in the end times that cannot be harmed until God allows it. I believe those two prophets are Enoch and Elijah brought back to finish their work.
@@ricoparadiso I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. What we read in scripture is that John the Bapist was Jesus' cousin. He was his own man. Elijah is a completely different person. Elijah was a prophet about 850 years before Christ was born. The scriptures tell us that Elijah, like Enoch was taken by God. Those are the only two individuals in the Bible that mention being taken by God and not dying. In accordance to God's plan He will bring Elijah and Enoch back to be prophets in the end times. Revelation mentions the two prophets who can't be touched/hurt until He allows it, I just believe (because of the reasons I just mentioned) that it is Elijah and Enoch. If the "bringing them back" part seems hard to believe just remember that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, keeping in mind that Lazarus was actually dead compared to Elijah and Enoch who didn't die.
@@ricoparadiso John the Baptist was murdered by Herod, Elijah was transformed. Elijah will surely come back Mark 9:2-30 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them. And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them. And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus. And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
I stopped in minute 4:22 and wrote a comment. Then I began to read other comments... evidently 119 is rejecting the Book of Enoch. Big mistake. The fact is it is so suspicious to me that the Catholic-Jews Bible is 66 books..... you get my point.
Actually I’ll argue you here on just this 66 book point. There’s a good reason why Jesus arrives on the 40th book of the Protestant Bible, it’s the end of the waiting period. There’s a good reason why the New Testament is 27 books too(3x3x3, the Cube number). 66 isn’t a bad number, 666 is a bad number. That said, we agree, Enoch is originally inspired but there are errors added to the text. Most notably Chapter 22. Enoch is meant to be dissected by the Holy Spirit. Most but not all of it will pass the test. GOD Bless!
With all respect, your opinion about the content in the video does not come off as very trustworthy if you draw conclusions from only 4 minutes of watching and reading people's comments. Watch it first and be patient to hear them out, or else you cant form a legitimate opinion.
@@amkr186 I have studied the matter and sometimes you grasp the point of the author earlier. Anyway, if you don’t agree with me, it’s ok. You might someday agree if you study the matter for some hundred hours. It takes time and humility to admit that we have been deceived.
@@cmorales5 Yes you are right in that one can grasp a point earlier, I am sorry. I find that people arrive to very different conclusions depending on weather they derive information from the scriptures we know as the bible today or from these other sources. How come they would contradict? Those who use books like Enoch etc. will have different approaches to the appointed times and the calendar for instance. Any explanation? Do you believe the scriptures as we have them today have been altered?
I don’t know if this was intentional, or if 119 ministries just did not read the entire book of Enoch, but they definitely left some very important details out and falsely accused the writer of claiming to be the messiah. I took their advice literally, “test everything”. It IS my responsibility and I have come to see this teaching on Enoch inaccurate. They spoke of one section from the book of Enoch, claiming that the writer is proclaiming himself the messiah. I believe that they were referencing 1 Enoch chapter 46. I highly encourage everyone to read it for themselves. It bothers me when people make up stuff so that they can take a definitive stand. Also, the argument about when it was written or the literature style, to me does not warrant a “this is a blasphemous book” stand. Why not take the stand of “we’re not 100% sure ourselves so we say read with extreme caution.
I know you wrote this a long time ago, but I agree. Plus Enoch 1 was found in the Dead Sea scrolls, or at least fragments of it. Clearly it has to date earlier than these experts claim since it was found in a cave that was all dated as earlier.
If Jesus quoted Enoch as scripture then who is anyone who is a believer to say that Enoch is not a valid book. To say that is to say Jesus quoted from a false work. Does any believer really want to go there??? YES!!! ALL should read the work for themselves. It is a very heady work and one truly needs to know their scriptures before reading it. I've read all3 Enochian books and Book 1 is the most accurate. Books 2 and 3 are adulterated IMHO and not trustworthy. If Joshua and 2 Samuel refer to it then it should be considered a genuine work otherwise to say it's a false work is to then say the bible is promoting a false book. We all need to use a little common sense and lots of prayers asking for discernment from the Holy Spirit when reading ANY work. If I might: 1 Enoch has chapters about the 364 day calendar. THIS BOOK is the TRUE ENOCH. 2 ENoch (SLavonic) is an adulterated work which attempts (badly it does) to fit our actual solar year of 365 and 1/4 days [along with pagan Gregorian calendar months]. This is incorrect and there are other parts in it also that are suspect. 3 Enoch is more rabbinic commentary and leaves out crucial calendar info. ALSO -- [and this is just a prediction it is pointing to (YES....I'm going to say it) aliens. Chapter 33 has text: "EACH ONE WITH THREE FINGERS" Chapter 44 alludes to GRAY PEOPLE. I have copious notes for all 3 books and various copies from different translators who published. So far 1 Enoch (Ethiopian) is the correct one. I hope that helps. IMHO stay away from the other two.
When does Jesus quote Enoch? I know Peter and Jude do, but we don't know if its the same version that is available through the Ethiopian church today. The parts of the book of Enoch found with the Dead Sea scrolls has some different words in it, not that it changes the meaning, but its not inerrant like the scriptures. I find Enoch useful for history and context.@@ateachableheart2649
Please add verse in the bible where " book of Enoch" is quoted. Not your opinion pls. Ppl lie all the time. I trust the bible. I dont have time for ppls opinion anymore
2 Esdras 14:44 In forty days they wrote two hundred and four books. So the Bible is not 66 or 87 books, there are so many books went missing, ELOYHM/YHUH is not author of confusion but of peace, ... 2 Timothy 3:16
I see no reference to Enoch in Matthew. Matthew 22 29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. How difficult would it be, I wonder, for the devil to twist scripture to his own ends? Is Enoch quoted in Jude, or Jude quoted in Enoch? Now the Spirit speaks expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; And I fear that as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your mind will be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. Tempting, this new knowledge is - these new books - secret until now... hidden... the new truths we now have. Don't they taste good! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. There is only one way to the King, and it is narrow. If reading Enoch helps you get to know Jesus, good for you! But remember, no lie is of the truth.
Like Dr Michael Heiser says, just because it's not in the Bible doesn't mean it's not important. The Old testament often quotes ancient literature and other books.
I don't agree that Hebrews 11:13 states that Enoch died. Hebrews 11:5 does clearly state that Enoch was taken by God, then verse 6 seems to give a breaking sentence that separates the thought, then comes back in verse 7 to continue the "by faith" segment. But I think verse 6 separates Enoch from the "all" the author bundles together in verse 13. Also, Jesus Himself quoted the Book of Enoch to the Pharisees and told them they err in not knowing the SCRIPTURES! So I really do not believe this was researched out biblically. Just my opinion. Blessings!
He has confused the Enoch from the Cain linage which is what most do when trying to contest the book of Enoch. There are 2 Enoch's & the Evil Enoch had many writings that are used to confuse the truth of GOD.
Enoch the son of Jared lived closely with god and was taken by god, Enoch the son of Cain died. These writings are believed to be from Enoch son of Jared
@Scott M Sykes Hebrews 11:5 does though. Heb 11:5 - "By faith "Enoch" was translated so as not to see death, and "was not found, because God translated him." For before his translation, he had obtained witness to have been pleasing to God." ( see Gen. 5:24 ) (LITV) "So as not to see death" - is very unambigious, that is very plain - Enoch didn't die. I personally believe he will be one of the two witnesses of Revelation 11
I agree, i was going to say that but its speaking more of abraham, and noah, not enoch when it says these men died... because the bible clearly states enoch did not taste death: we have to be 2 timothy 2:15 studiers! To rightly divide the Word of truth! God bless you!
Alex Bailey actually both of you are wrong !! Jacob wrestled with (some believe it refers to an angel) a divine being and did so all night and when the being told him to let go, Jacob said no! Not unless you bless me. And so, the being touched his hip and broke it and said his new name is Israel because he struggled with angels and prevailed with God
Jude directly quotes the Book of Enoch in the New Testament. It is part of Ethiopian Canon, one of the oldest established churches. This book both elaborates on Genesis 6 and further solidifies the truth about the Earth, Sun, and Moon. I have no doubt why it was done away with.
Not really. Enoch for sure isn’t inspired. Unless you believe that human kind can bring forth with the angel kinds. Can humans also bring forth of the gorilla kind, horse and other animals?!
@@godloves9163 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
@@zariahlafleurpowell7028 what’s your point? Sons of God are referring to as believers in God. Yes angels at some times have been referred to as sons of God, however, the New Testament is clear that angels CANNOT REPRODUCE and ARE NOT HUMAN 👉KIND👈. The Bible is clear that each kind can bring forth after THEIR OWN KIND. Is the angel kind the same as human kind?
@@godloves9163 no in fact there are different kinds of angles sons God is a family in Genisis it says let us make man in Our image. The arch Angel's are indeed sons of God arch over seer of the Angel's watchers of the Angels. Genisis 6 is a part of the bible that talks about the sons of God not humans at this point who hadn't been called into the God family yet. May God bless your study I'm just sharing what I've found it's ok if we believe different in our journeys to the one truth that God alone knows fully
@@zariahlafleurpowell7028 I did my research as well. People only imply it’s angels. Sorry it’s not spiritual angels, it’s either fleshly or not. There’s no hybrids. And yes there were giants in those days. Most of everything was giant, that’s the point. Genesis is showing the proof of giants because this is what our archeologists find today and can’t explain it except through the Bible lens. Giant reptiles aka dinosaurs, giant animals, giant insects. Hence why the bible says there were giants on the earth in those days.
the book of Enoch is one of the scriptures which was meant for the end times only the wise will understand it not the foolish. This guy did not do enough research he listens the words of men then rely on the Holy Spirit.The book of Enoch is the word of G-D. The earth is flat just as it says do not listen to man who obey satan the evil one.He is the great deceiver who deceives the whole earth.May Yeshua guide and bless all who read His word, Amen
Sheeeesh.....Thank God for the Holy Spirit, who leads to ALL Truth and Understanding. The FIRST Book of Enoch resonates as Truth in my Spirit, that is all I need.
I agree, the first one feel right to me the second one does not, at least not all of it, and haven’t even listened to the third. Heard it was not very trustworthy at all
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. 6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths. 7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil. Proverbs 3
"Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven" the only book talking about angel not given in marriage is enoch
@@richardwhite6062 Well stated. The key statement is "but are like angels "in" heaven. Not the ones that got cast down to earth because of rebellion. This group is obviously going again the most high.
Sorry. You just aren’t accurate. It was quoted in the Bible and evidence suggest Jesus was familiar with it and it probably predates all the other books. Daniel even references a book that was for future believers in the end times. Enoch (through about the first 54 chapters) fits this prophecy perfectly. It was also found with the Dead Sea scrolls and new manuscript translations matched the older ones found with the scrolls.
Jude. Quoted in Jude. Jewish tradition supports it. One of the oldest surviving Christian Cultures (Ethiopia) and many small orthodox Christian sects still have the Book of Enoch in their cannon. Read it and it’s apparent why the Jesuits would want to remove it from modern translations.
I believe there are sufficient evidence that warrants a more thorough examination of the evidence. To throw the writing out, is a mistake. I think we are going to find out very soon how real the Nephilim really are.
@@franklinmc4457 The Nephilim were real as stated in Torah. There is no need for the book of Enoch to understand this fact. The book of Enoch is not inspired by YHVH. If you read the Torah you get enough information on giants, angels, and their interactions with men and women to be aware.
Apostle Jude is a reliable man of Christ and of The Father in Heaven. He clearly mentioned "Enoch Seventh from Adam". It is at his precise words when he quoted (Jude 1:14-15) verse from the Book of Enoch (1:9) both are parallel. This is full well enough Enoch's scripture was indeed inspired. Jude knew it, and hypocrites don't.
Grow up and dig a little deeper to understand the full picture. Listen to the entire video and read some entire articles ok this topic. You are just cherry picking and ignoring what you don't like. YOU are the hypocrite.
I personally think every mature believer grounded in Scripture should read Enoch prayerfully. I have benefited greatly from it in my understanding of Genesis. It has also changed the way I view world history and the history of God's people. It goes into detail about what the fallen angels were doing and how genetic mad science and sorcery was introduced to mankind. It also gives more context as to why we have all of these same creatures showing up in mythology and lore all across the globe; things like mermaids, dragons, giants, goblins, minotaurs, fairies, centaurs, werewolves, shapeshifters, bigfoot, UFOs and aliens. All these creatures trace their origins back to some kind of supernatural source which we know as the fallen angels who wanted to create their own reality on earth in rebellion to God. As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man. The reason why I believe what Enoch says is because I am seeing the same things come back nowadays, the way people are playing with genetics and even the human soul. And the way sorcery and all kinds of demonic doctrines are coming more to the forefront and even being taught to children in schools. The way the basics of natural order like gender is being rejected in favor of creating our own false realities, that means we can have sex with anything and everything just like the people did before the flood. This opens the door to sex with demons which will create all kinds of problems. I believe these extra details presented in Enoch will help protect God's people even more from deception because we have a better idea of what to look out for.
If Enoch was with God then he could have seen what happened at mt Sinai. Am I correct! God knows all things and angels can see from above so how is that not true too.
Yes! the first section of 1 Enoch describes God showing himself to the people of Israel at Sinai and it describes the covenant that God made with his people and declares that God keeps that same covenant. The rest of the bible agrees and shows time after time how God keeps those same promises with his people.
They are so bias they erased my comment because I challenged them and I was not inappropriate in anyway they are like Facebook fact checkers, very sad, they are not genuinely interested in the validity or not of the book of Enoch they are just trying to wash their hands so they don’t lose any reputation by endorsing it in anyway
Enoch was not an angel. The Bible never states that Enoch went to Heaven, just that he was saved from death. If you believe scripture, Yeshua says specifically: John 3:13 “No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.” This verse should shut all discussion down about the topic of Heaven. Elijah was transported to another place, we know this because he sends a letter to Jehoram. All of the prophets talk about going to sleep in the dust, nothing mentioning going to heaven and looking down on the sorrows of this world or being an angel. David is said to be “sleeping with his fathers” it mentions nothing of going to heaven.
@@soloscriptura7451 Did not Jesus tell the thief on the cross, "Today thou shalt be with me in paradise?" Is not paradise heaven? So in other words, Jesus told the thief he would be WITH JESUS in paradise.
@@zjmtnvols nothing in scripture indicates that he went to Heaven. He was telling him he was redeemed for believing in him, therefore the law of sin and death does not apply to him. I’ll pay you to show me anywhere in scripture it says “such in such is in Heaven” besides Yeshua. You won’t find it, because it’s not there. Shalom.
If the book of Jasher was not scriptural, why would the book be mentioned in two very distinct places in the gospels? First mentioned in Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven and hasted not to go down about a whole day. and then again, it is made mention in 2Samuel 1:18. (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
Jude is included in the Bible, he spoke of Enoch he wasn’t mocked for it. After, Paul spoke Enoch to the Jews in Hebrews He was inspired by the Lord. Are we to say we can’t trust Paul writing that Enoch was translated?? Yet these are saying they trust some scholar instead??? Or doctrines of men? Are we not to test all things with the Bible? Would their not be warnings against trusting in Enoch or maybe just not mentioned at all? I have seen other videos on this ch. & am seeing the same pattern of choosing scripture to their interpretation and making it sound like there is no way to think otherwise than what they are presenting. DANGEROUS! BEWARE & BE AWARE!!
Spiritual truth i think this is literally just a rouse to bring out the anger and evil these guys cant be this serious. They test nothing and are taught these things and cant re kearn their way around it i have tried to talk to these kind of channels with the same end everytime they speak their brliefs and refuse or spiritually are blind to it and until they come to Jesus they will stay this way. I try to speak to other channels and go back and forth on scripture and i always end up amazed they will not hear what the scripture says. I hope that if nothing else it plants the Seed
Well they also say adults would eventually become circumcised, completely obliterating what Paul warns in Galatians. However- Jew and Gentile are to become one flesh. Worship on the same days, set apart by God, and eat the same foods, not grieving one another. The Spirit will lead to all truth, and the Spirit will lead to Torah and how God always wanted to circumcise our hearts.
Elwood M. Buel well what is required of gentiles in the Torah and what was taken away with Jesus. Like the feasts did anyone get Leaven out of their house and have perfect unspotted lamb for dinner and make sure that none of it remain in the morning. Or is Jesus the Perfect Lamb that and to celebrate it would just be remembering our sins yr to year that can never be judged by food or feast say. 🙏🏼Romans 6:6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, so that the body of sin might be annulled, that we are no longer enslaved to sin. 7For the one having died has been freed from sin. 8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised up out from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer rules over Him. 10For that which He died, He died to sin once for all; but that which He lives, He lives to God. 11So also you, consider yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but living to God in Christ Jesus. 🙏🏼👉this is the Berean Literal which matches to original greek best. Notice the term “old man” this is also the same reference as the Parable of the Wineskins. Which is about the Old & New Covenants. Which is also in the story of the Wedding where Jesus turned water to wine and that He Brings the Good Wine now. Sorry this is long but since Christ.Truther and Parable of th Vine. Blocked me and my second ch. The people will choose their own paths. And if they believe they have hidden truths the all will fall into the ditch. As for the Torah one easy Scripture answers that John 6: 28Therefore they said to Him, “What must we do, that we may be doing the works of God?” 29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you should believe in Him whom He has sent.” 🙏🏼this is also why it is important to have Faith in Salvation where if you are bringing the Gospel the Torah is not there. Why a man can accept Jesus in his death bed seconds before his death. Hiw can one be saved in this manner with the Torah? Seek truth in the New Covenant and you will find it
What I find astounding is that people don't have any spiritual discernment . In the New testament Jesus teaches us about demons. The book of Enosh explains where the demons came from. Most the books in the new testament contain word for word references from the book of Enosh.
Jacobus Van der Merwe I really can say, I didn’t understand the difference between demons and fallen angels until reading Enoch. Demons come from dead Nephilim. Even one of the words used for demons is also talking about Nephilim, the Rephaim. I asked a guy from Israel, “what is a Rephaim?” He said demon, although in the Bible the first appear as Giants, then later as demons and the inhabitants of the underworld.
@@spitflamez yes the angels had sex with the daughters of men and their offspring were giants. When these giants died because they were born on the earth they became demonic spirits. The original 200 angels that decided to cohabit with woman are bound till judgement day.
@@jacobusvandermerwe1922 Regarding Enoch, some doubters get caught up on certain words and passages in Enoch, just like in Jubilees and Jasher. They get too caught up on things that appear out of line or incorrect and start assuming the entire book is false or something. People who do that are not understanding by the spirit, instead, they may gain some understanding then listen to "scholars" who have there own agenda to debunk the text, then this cycle continues on and on. Jesus will soon make things clear to all.
@@kervinrobinkneshoa7213 the book of Enoch explains this the angels that sinned in Genius 6 took daughters of men and slept with them their children became giants. When these giants were killed they became demons or evil spirits. They were told to remain on earth as they were made on the earth
What Jesus says in Matthew 22:30 can only be found in 1 Enoch. Please refer to verse 29. And Jude alludes to 1 Enoch many times before directly quoting it, but you'd have to study "all scripture" (including 1 Enoch) to know that.
@@ateachableheart2649 Jesus also quoted other unbiblical sources. Does that mean those need to be included in the Bible? Secondly, the book of Enoch was a fake and how do you know it wasn’t written after claiming to be written before and then quoting Jesus…
@@godloves9163 Jesus IS LORD. For anyone who says otherwise by saying He quoted unbiblical sources is tantamount to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Jesus had something to say about that. RU sure you wanna go there? I think you're a shill, certainly NOT a true follower of Christ Jesus.
@@godloves9163 please cite the source of information that proves Enoch is a fake book. NO ONE can prove that and even if they could, then that makes Jesus a fake and there my friend you tread on dangerous ground.
Agreed, just like what he said Enoch died in Hebrews 11:13. I didn’t read as such that Enoch died ...maybe they had other interpretations that I don’t understand?
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints don't accept the books Enoch as canon. We do however have additional scriptures about him, but not derived from the apocrypha. Moroni is pronounced Mor-OH-nye, btw.
I confirm the Book of Enoch is NOT cannon and is considered apocryphal. Also, we are NOT an " end times community" any more than other deciples Jesus Christ.
All i can say is the book of enoch makes me change my life totally,when i read how enoch petition for the fallen angels and God rejected all 200,it teaches me that we take Sin too lightly and think that as we say Lord forgive us we are forgiven,i cried ,i got scared,these now a days pastors only interested in money,they don't preach hell and holiness
Jesus does not hate religion my friend, read the book of James : "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world." James 1:27 (kjv) God bless you brother
(Ps: God does hate wickedness and deception, which is what FALSE religions are, there is only one true religion because there is only one true God 😁) have a blessed weekend!
We can jump around all day but only one verse matters here. 2 Timothy verses 16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
When 119 is confident they know something, they block comments on their videos. When they question themselves, they open up the comments section to allow people to change their minds. This video is great evidence of that. And 119 ministries is very wrong on this video. The book of Enoch is very accurate.
@@jessicamatlock6786 If what you say is true, then Jesus was a false Messiah. Jesus said in John 3:13 "No man ascendeth up to heaven, but he who came down from heaven". Jesus was the one who came down from heaven, therefore NO OTHER MAN can ascend into heaven, except Jesus. This either proves you to be wrong in your Enoch interpretation, or it proves Jesus to be a liar and a false Messiah. Which one do you think is most likely? Scripture actually uses the word "translated" and not "taken" to describe what happened to Enoch. Enoch was translated to heaven. Heaven is a spiritual relm NOT A FLESHLY relm for men. Its very clear Enoch was "translated" into the spirit in order to be taken into heaven. Your mistranslation has turned Jesus into a liar.
I,v learn so much from the book of Enoch how wonderful to know how God created each thing in time and how it has blessed me I am amazed at all the things I,v learned knowing God power and how amazing he is
Took me a few days to watch. I wanted to write a few things. You're clearly missing something if you're saying it was revealed to a select few... It's a book for all eyes to see, in the end times. This isn't gold plates with special glasses requirements, this is a printed distributed book. All Jews knew about it back then before the diaspora, not just a select few. How was it exclusive? You mean the elect? You gloss over many facts here as well. It's hard to write a paragraph about a 45 minute video but you saying in Jude they quote Enoch, then read the contexts which says "Enoch prophesied" then say it's not inspired. I mean think about that statement you make here. You're saying it's prophesy but not to be regarded as scripture? Do you ignore some prophets? Do you teach people to ignore the prophets? If what you say is true then Jude can not be trusted because of the false testimony here claiming Enoch is a prophet. Even if it was passed down orally then why do you think writing it would be any less true? The Brit Hadashah states clearly Enoch prophesied which means we must listen or disregard the book of Jude as well. Ignore Enoch to your own peril, it was written for our time. It emerged as Israel became a nation in day and the dead sea scrolls were found at the same time. give or take a couple months, it is significant evidence. Also if what you say is true and it's an oral tradition then you just opened up a can of talmudic worms because if that oral tradition made it into the Brit Hadashah then ALL of it must be considered. The way you steer the conversation is odd too with out reference. And don't get me started on your lame translation, did you purposely chose one that said "myriads" instead of 10 thousand to steer even more? Mine says 10 thousand not myriads. Even the first Enoch link in google shows 10 thousand, not myriad. The one quote from Michael Hesier is just an opinion also, no fact here. He is assuming something. This how you get led away. Jude plainly says it is prophesy, not a false doctrine. Is Michael Hesier your new Paul or is Jude enough? If you're going to question whether all of Enoch is trustworthy then you must do the same with the Brit Hadashah big time. The catholic fingerprints are disgusting in it. Entire lines are missing from the gospels, the lines with deep meaning. We walk around half blind trying to make sense of it all. It seems like your biggest problem with the Book of Enoch is that there are people who are chosen, the elect. Well I hate to break it to you but the Elect are real. Yeshua called me his Elect one day himself with his own mouth. Why would he break his silence on a day when I was not praying or doing anything religious just to say that if it wasn't important? Just working in my house, why would he break his silence to call me his elect? He told me he loves me, and I am his, he also told me to get ready. Not all are elect though so I will say that now so you don't call anyone who accepts Yeshua elect. Is that what you mean when you say it was for a select few? That book spells everyone out, the elect which always have Shalom with Abba, the righteous, who work for that same Shalom and the wicked who deny him and his ways. I don't mean literal work for the righteous, maybe accepting Yeshua and keeping the commandments is the "work" here. The righteous are those who do the will of God. The elect are not just anyone who believes but are selected for some reason. That has not been revealed. I do have prophetic dreams though. In one dream I watched a circle appear in the sky and angels poured out of it. People were screaming so loud. One angel flew to me and grabbed me and I woke up. Keep the commandments, keep the testimony of Yeshua, seek our fathers face. There is no greater reward!
Exactly right brother here in this video they are very biased against the book of Enoch they have a lot to lose in their reputation if they appear to endorse it same with Michael Heizer a lot of times he washes his hands, I like your point about Jude and like timothy Alberino says if Jude said that Enoch prophesied and the Bible says that Christ is the spirit of prophecy therefore the spirit of Christ must be in the book of Enoch . When they say in this video that the angels said you are the son of man they are totally unfairly forcing the interpretation that Enoch is the Messiah instead of Jesus hilarious and unfair the book of Enoch is completely messianic about a Messiah in the future he gives glory to Jesus Christ there is no contradiction to any biblical doctrine they even erased one of my comments acting like Facebook fact checkers and I was not inappropriate in anyway I simply challenged them . A lot of us know that if we truly pay attention and we make our spiritual ears sensitive to what’s going on behind curtains in this world we realized that the book of Enoch makes a lot of sense with all this pseudoscience lies that Satan is engineering for the system of the antichrist.
he has zero original thoughts he uses other authors to discredit and describe texts in the best way he thinks/assumes. I cant take him seriously at all
@@brucedressel8873 🤣 you're a fool. and have fallen for the beast system aka Roman Central Currency through the Vatican and they couldn't do anything because the Dead Sea scrolls were hidden for a reason
Praise Yah!!! It is a blessing to see so many individuals in the comment section dedicated to doing their own research and not just except the regurgitated talking points of uninformed men.
It’s simple to read the book of Enoch and prove it’s not valid. Easy question: Who deceived Eve? The Bible says Lucifer…book of enoch says an angel named Gadriel… So which one do you believe?
@@HajiStaxGaming First off, the Bible doesn't say Lucifer in reference to Satan. The only place where Lucifer appears is Isaiah 14:12 and the name means Light-Bringer and in this verse refers to King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. And it never even says Satan in reference to the Serpent; the Serpent is merely the Serpent.
@@ZetaMagnus Revelation 12:9 “And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.” Weird….I got this right out of Revelation. Maybe you should re-read it. Literally says, “that old serpent, called the Devil, AND Satan.”. So….please explain to me in greater detail how the serpent is merely the serpent but not called Satan.
The mention that Enoch did die later Hebrews 11:13 is taken way out of context. Read Hebrews 11:5-13 again for clarification. It’s talking about the people after Enoch that died, not Enoch himself.
I think the first 15 minutes of this video really explains the history aspect well. I appreciate that you guys didn't come out like a hard hammer for or against it, but rather explained the historical backdrop, the reason Jesus and the disciples were familiar with the text and why it is different than the rest of accepted Holy Scripture. I appreciate the time you put into this video. It is nice to come across some well-presented information in a world of heavily opinionated teachings. Keep it up.
Well it is quoted by Jude & without it we dont have a full account for the Gen 6 fallen watcher discrepancie or the scape goat Aza'zel as all sin was to be ascribed to him. What say you good sir ? Have you an account for these things ?
what disturbs me is that, this book existed in the bible earlier on ..so by then the book was inspired by God..but 200 years later, why say it's not inspired by God ..
cohen cyrus Exactly. It’s man made religious bs as I call it. Evidence, which is required and two witnesses agree that Enoch, Jubilees for example are in two ancient Scripture versions. Dead Sea Scrolls and Ethiopian version. We have historians who said that those two books were Scripture. Pharisees and Rome eventually rejected them because it is pro Torah and Messianic. It goes against their religion. If people want to reject Enoch, Jubilees, then to be consistent, they should reject NT. I don’t recommend that. People should be consistent and stop cherry picking and trust in false scholars that reject Scripture entirely and then accept some of Scripture and contradicting themselves. Here is something fro you to think about. Yahudah (Jude) 1:6 quotes a passage from the Testament (assumption) of Mosheh (Moses). Should we reject Jude? I think not. I don’t get why supposed defenders of Scripture want to reject parts of Scripture but not reject letters. Letters are NOT technically the Scriptures. Yes, they quote and allude to the Scriptures. See how messed up religion is and the true adherents to Scripture are attacked the most.
At 9:39 he seems concerned that we may not have an accurate representation of The Book of Enock as it was in the First Century. On that basis, we would have to conclude the same about the Canon... a foolish statement, as we must trust that God has protected ALL that he has passed on to mankind. Since we know that God DID reveal things to Enoch, we can be SURE that He had protected THAT word as well. Because Enoch struggled to describe things seen in his "vision(s)", is that any different than John's visions in the book of Revelation? John only shared what he saw. We trust the Holy Spirit to reveal what God was REALLY saying. Just saying...
Interestingly, the Book of Enoch was quoted by all the apostles in the NT. If that weren't enough, Jesus quotes it without hesitation, including calling Himself the Son of Man time after time, just as Enoch speaks of Him, time after time, in his book.
Who are these church fathers to decide for us what is or not the inspired word of God? Only the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit) can guide us in to all truth Jn 16:13. HE will tell us what is inspired word of Yahuah, not those people who decided for us what we can or cannot read. I follow the Holy Spirit not Jews or scholars, or historians, much less 119 ministries. I will decide what is the word of Yahuah along with His guidance not theirs. Blessings and peace to all.
To deny this book as scripture would be tantamount to calling Jude (among others in the scriptures) a liar. We would in fact be calling God a liar. Jude quotes from this very book. Jude also called Enoch a prophet. He also gives him antiquity (with his lineage). Jude preached from this mans book to his congregation. Jude never would have taken the liberty to say such things if they were not true. God loved this man so much that He took Him to live with Him in heaven. This is a prime example of why John said in 2nd John 20 & 21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Like any men or women of today, you have been taught by the same ones that Jesus warned us about. The false teachers. The nephilim's educational system (now called the seminary). I would urge you to consult God on this matter. The holy spirit is the only way to the truth. Not man. May God bless you with His truth that you may see with both eyes, and hear with both ears. Amen.
But again couldn't this book just have copied these and tried to explain it with the theory it saw fit ? I mean read chap 70 of the book of enoch, the messiah is revealed to be him!
I think that's a bit of a stretch, it is just a historical book influencing culture of the time of Christ, doesn't make it inspired scripture, but a good reference to understand the culture and thinking of the time. Not more not less... it just is.
@@stephaniejazzy7359 not at all sister it doesn’t say that, that’s what Enoch heard it doesn’t mean the Angels were talking about him, is a miss interpretation. Enoch is absolutely messianic glorifies Jesus Christ and it doesn’t contradict any doctrine of the Bible these 119 guys they are just simply very bias, they have a lot to loose if they seem to endorse it, they are not genuinely interested in the book’s possible validity.
Enoch III, 72:37 "37 its appearance, according as the Lord commanded. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal." If the sun and moon are the same size: If the earth is immovable: If the earth has ends, edges, corners: If the earth has a Firmament aka Dome above us: If the earth is the Lord's footstool: If the earth is still while the sun and moon over us: As you stated in your video....Joshua 10:13 "and the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.)" If the sun and moon stood still...that implies they were the ones moving...not the earth. If the Bible speaks nothing of the earth spinning and orbiting.... The Earth is Flat. You just haven't thought about it most likely...
research and teaching? They literally gave their bias opinion with ZERO PROOF using scripture, which is required as a witness. They used NO WITNESSES to make their false accusations. since when is an opinion piece considered "research"? The fact is, not one single thing in the book of Enoch goes against the laws and commands of YHWY, or the teachings of Jesus, yet the book of Enoch does "in lock step" support these same things of YHWY and Jesus. hmmmmmm
I thank God that ancient B.C. scholars compiled the writings of Enoch and made them available in one concise document. Together, they give us a much better understanding of events that took place BEFORE the Great Flood... plus much more, of course. It is not relevant whether it is included in the "canon" or not. What is important is that we have available to us a greater understand of God's work that He has preserved for us over the centuries. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth." The Book of Enoch is NOT a DIFFERENT truth, it only brings to light MORE understanding of the Scriptures. I thank God for that.
Love your work, however this presentation was troublesome to me... Did Jesus use terms found in Enoch in referring to himself? Is Enoch an end time prophet? Why did you choose the translation you sourced? Did the Essene Community become the first Christians? You presented hypothesis and assumptions based on only one side of the narrative. It would be extremely interesting to have you present an opposite view citing different sources or to have a yeshiva style debate that would allow the listeners to determine their own conclusions.
Diane Essenes were pagan. It’s frustrating how people rewrite history. That’s like saying whites were the first Americans. They were not. Nowhere in Dead Sea Scrolls are Essenes mentioned. This guy is a typical false teacher who panders to Juda-ism religion and x-tian religion also. The actual “early Christians” or assembly never doubted or rejected Enoch. It was not until the 5th century CE. Rome rejected it and pseudo (protesting) Romans do also, except for some people who identify as x-titans. More people are realizing Enoch is Scripture and the historical and prophetic implications.
@Paul kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4 Lol this is the same video that uses Hebrews 11:13 to prove that Enoch died? Try some reasearch dude, it's sad to say but this channel isn't the same anymore...
I am trying to be like the Bereans here, so here is my question: @5:18 you give 2 proofs against Enoch being the author, they both have to do with TIME. The Time of Enochs life. Since he was taken to be with God while he was yet alive, and since a day and a thousand years can be the same for Our Father, how can we know what time span or spans Enoch spent with Our Father in Heaven? How can we know WHEN he returned, and if he did die, how can we determine the date of his death without those other factors?
I dont mean to be critical. But they way he coming on this...it remind me of something harold camping would say. Plus its super confusing. WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION. THERE IS NO REVELATION HERE. JESUS HELPS US. THEOLIGIZED AT BEST. LOCKED OUT. MY WHOLE SPIRIT WAS LIKE BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! Wrong Wrong Wrong. In a world full of information craving we are starving for wisdom from the Lord. Christ came in the flesh.
Why use BCE and CE unless your being politically correct and bending to academia and a world review that wanted to replace the word Jesus. AND by your argument, We can't prove Moses wrote Genesis. It by your definition, was written later by an author after Moses Death.
@@ravenstone366 Tertullian the Latin historian makes it clear why Sadducees didn't allow Enoch and the New Testament into the Jewish canon. Because both Enoch and the New Testament were too Christ Centric. Too many people were getting saved after reading them.
@@ravenstone366 As for the Christian Canon we can all thank The Council of Laodecia and St Augustine. Laodecia rejected Revelation and Enoch from the Canon. St Augustine with Hippo and Carthrage reinstated Revelation back into the Canon. But Enoch wasn't reinserted because Augustine doubted the Genesis 6 accounts. Despite being historically affirmed Augustine's faith wasn't strong enough.
Newfound Aventures Hmmmm. Why would you throw away thousands of years of history written by many different authors, speaking many different languages, coming from all walks of life but all telling the same story for a book that contradicts all of that history? Perhaps you don't really know the history of our Bible, how it came about, why it came about and when or how it was transcribed, how it was treated, the different of materials used for ancient manuscripts and scrolls, how meticulous the scribes were during transcription and how they prided themselves on accuracy, who decided what books were in the Bible and which books weren't and why.
I don't want to spam the comment section, but I do have another question. When Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees in Matthew chapter 22 verse 29 and 30 saying _29 Jesus answered and said unto them, _*_Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures,_*_ nor the power of God._ _30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven._ What scriptures is Yeshua referring to? There is no where eles in the Bible explaining this, however the Book of Enoch *does* give us an explanation. I am not dogmatically saying that the Book of Enoch is Canon because of this one oversight however this definitely leads me to believe that the words of God have been perhapes tampered with...
Gravity Falls Canada Yep. That’s Enoch 15. The Sadducee, not Pharisee attempted to debunk the resurrection by using Tobit. Yahusha rebutted by using Enoch.
2 ''And go, say to the watchers of the shamayim who have sent you to intercede for them, 'You should intercede for men, and not men for you. 3 'Why have you left the high, qodesh, and eternal shamayim, and lain with women, and defiled yourselves with the daughters of men and taken to yourselves wives, and done like the children of earth, and begotten giants as sons? 4 'And though you were qodesh, spiritual, living the eternal hai, you have defiled yourselves with the blood of women, and have brought forth with the blood of flesh, and, as the children of men, have lusted after flesh and blood, as those also do who die and perish.
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints," how do you thank Jude and others got this information if they had not read the Book of Enoch? Beware what you speak against Enoch seeing he was mentioned near the beginning of the Bible and than again near the end. The bible warns against taking away from the holy scriptures. What authority gives you the right to speak against these books? Have you no fear of God? He warns all against those who attack his word and take away from or add things to it. How dare you do such a thing. Also was not the Book of Enoch found among the dead sea scrolls?
So the sons of GOD wrote in Genisis 6 and JOB. 2 are good guys Christians??. I notice you said in Genisis chapter 6 it read sons of men. Not . reads sons of GOD and daughters of men.
Just because a book isn't canon doesn't make it not written by the acclaimed writer. It just means that it's not true or honorable enough to be taken as gospel.
If the Book of Enoch has no significance, why did God tell me to bring it to people's attention over eight years ago...I had never even heard of it, until He told me about it...
The wizard of OZ! Jude says that Enoch propesized. Paul definitely believed that Enoch was taken up! You act like the book is easily, matter of factly discredited then you go waaaaay out there. Why?
It doesn’t. Because he was already transformed. Or he could have died. It seems Hebrews is contradictory and maybe it’s not Scripture. Lol. Seriously, I don’t know. Why should we have more trust in a pseudopigraphical letter that is anonymous? That’s what “scholars” say. Yet we cannot supposedly trust Enoch...
Bosh Montes Yes, but they blindly believe it over Enoch, which was written by Enoch. See the hypocrisy? I trust Enoch and Hebrews. I trust Enoch because of overwhelming evidence.
@@pm5206 i believe in hebrews and enoch . . . .it is a blessing to have enoch side by side with the new testament. . . .and the old testament. we cannot dismiss evidences in qumran cave.
The justification for saying that Enoch was not written by Enoch is weak. Has it not occurred to you that the prophets referenced are giving a nod to Enoch, the same way both Jude and Jesus himself do? Or that what was was revealed by God to the other prophets would not also be reveled to Enoch? Enoch does say God reveled all to him. Furthermore, why do you suppose that mount Sinai would be unknown to Enoch? There is no record of where he traveled or what he saw in his 365 years in the region. Lastly, the second point has nothing to do with the origin of the original document, it simply dates the copy that was found.
After seeing this I'm still unsure. Not leaning towards anyone view [lean more toward scripture.] But what I'm saying is I'm open to the possibility of enoch being reliable right now due to my little understanding of Torah. I'm praying that Yah will make it clear in the days moving forward.
Enoch did not die, nor did Elijah, Enoch and Elijah are the two end-time witnesses described in Rev 11. That was the only reason why God took both of them alive since the two witnesses will finally die and the remain dead for three and a half days. Rev:11:9 God people will only die once since the second death is final. The second death is for the wicked people, Rev 20:14-15, There are no more resurrections for those who suffer the second death.
@Scott M Sykes The Witnesses of today are the witnesses of Charles Taze Russel and Joseph Rutherford, not God witnesses, and they are preaching a false gospel about some Jesus who is an archangel.
@Scott M Sykes God is not a respecter of persons, Act 10:34 "KJV" So then, why would God allow his son Jesus to suffer death, while on the other hand, neither Enoch and Elijah suffered death? Why were Enoch and Elijah both taken alive by God, if God didn't have a special reason in mind for them,? God does nothing without a reason, that reason is, Enoch and Elijah are to be sent back in the last days, as God two end-time witnesses... where they will finally suffer death.Rev11:8 "KJV"
@Scott M Sykes So tell me, what is the true gospel of YAHWEH? You do realize, that YAHWEH was in fact, the same God that told Moses "I am who I am" Ex3:14. Here's the clue. Jesus said... "No one has ever seen God, except the one and only Son who is himself God, and is closest relationship with the father has made him known. John 1:18 "KJV" So why would Jesus make such a statement since Moses and others have seen God in the Old Testament? Was Jesus telling lies?...No, Jesus wasn't lying because, in fact, Jesus was the same God of the Old Testament. The God that Moses saw wasn't God the Father but God the Son whom the JW call Jehovah, and Jesus the archangel...Yahweh is "I am that I am" who later was born as Jesus Christ...Are you preaching that same gospel, bro, or are you preaching a different gospel?
Enoch, Elijah, and the thief on the cross all died in the same place, New Yerushaliym. They were the millenial caretakers of transforming paradise from the garden of eden, into the city of the Elect.
Angie Jefferys the book of Enoch was the first book of the Bible , for it to go into such detail about the creation and what went wrong and who brought sin and how it came to be wrongfully intertwine with mankind ! And for so many to quote scriptures from it .
Besides , why would the CREATOR , take him away if he was a lie or fairytale! I can’t see it with my eyes nor with my heart , the Book is for these times of deception!!!!
@@mysphthejazzien10 Enoch wasn't a lie or a fairytale. The Book of Enoch found in the Ethioptic bible is suspect because it differs from the fragments written in Aramaic that were found at Qumran. Also, the Book of Parables (1 Enoch) was not found at Qumran. The Ethioptic version is thought to have come about around the 15th century AD because of errors and writing styles.
I wasn't the biggest fan of the 3rd statement made in the conclusion. We should have a definitive answer is the Book of Enoch Canon or not and if it is not can why are you even recommending us a way of studying it? It should be refuted just like you've done with other possibly followed ideologies that you have already refuted on this channel. I'm still not sure of The Book of Enoch but what I do know is that it doesn't contradict the Bible in any way it only adds more detail to the pre-flood events and the return of Yahuwah. With all that said, I think what we need to figure out is what are the qualifications/requirements to be considered part of the so-called "Bible Canon", 66 or 88 books depending on what you read. I am almost 100% certain that the Catholic Church and Constantine at the Council of Nicea tampered with some of the books definitely giving us the 66 book Canon we have now. It is so crucial to know what books are part of scripture and what are not because the Bible alone definitely is missing explanations that are found in other books but were these books man-made or removed from scripture? *Again, what we need to find out what are the requirements to pass the "test"of being part of the Bible Canon?*
This may or may not be helpful but I have been studying and researching on this issue and I found out that the book of the watchers (Enoch 1-36) are preserved substantially in the Dead Sea Scrolls and is the only one that is credible. The Aramaic Dead Sea Scrolls of Enoch are the oldest and closest to the original, the rest are so fragmented that we can't be too sure it is the same as the other manuscripts in Greek, Ethiopic, Syriac, or Coptic versions. So you can scrap the rest. The book of the Watchers gives us all the details we can't find in the canon of Scripture. This ties with everything from Genesis 6:2-4 with the fallen angels copulating with women and having giant sons(Nephilim), to the reason why God had to press the reset button(the flood), to the return of the giants(Nephilim) after the flood, and all the way to Jude saying quoting Enoch 1:9 which is in the book of the Watchers, and even in 2Peter 2:4 which says, "For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell, delivering them in chains to be held in gloomy darkness until their judgment." This is the summary of the book of the Watchers(Enoch 1-36). Peter obviously knew that the book of Enoch(specifically the book of the Watchers), told this story in great detail which Jude echoes. The apostles and the early church fathers knew this book. But then again, I can only say that I am only convinced with the book of the Watchers, the rest you can just set aside. I hope this helps, it finally gave me peace of mind in regards with this matter.
Yes actuslly , why is t that the book was in bible earlier on ..so it was inspired by God 800 yrs ago but presently its not inspired by God.. this confuses me alot. you should be right bro
The Ethiopian and Dead Scrolls have Enoch along with other books in Tanakh. There are 6 “canons” or more correctly, versions of Scripture. Dead Sea Scrolls, Ethiopian, Aramaic, Armenian, Roman, protesting Roman. It’s evident that Dead Sea Scrolls and Ethiopian preserves more Scripture (two witnesses). Later on, we see people have messed with Scripture and removed what they did not like (not because the Most High told them) or it went against their religion. This is why religion is a lie. The whole Scripture is true. Scripture does not mean a certain number of writings. I believe there are over 100 books.
Canon means Roman law. Canonized means approved by Roman law. I don’t trust the Roman authority (the Catholic Church) to decide what is inspired and what is not. Instead, test for yourself everything written. If it agrees with scripture, great! If it contradicts (and let’s not forget even some the gospels contradict in small details) in DOCTRINE, then it ought be discarded. But if small details are different, let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water. Much can be learned. I fully disagree with 119’s conclusion about Jasher and Jubilees. I find much edification in those books, and 1Enoch as well. You cannot reach a conclusion about these books if you have not read them.
Elizabeth Proverbs 28:9 Yes. But this false teacher is why Steve Moutria left. He quotes people who don’t accept Scripture. That automatically invalidates his claims. Also, if he knew Enoch and studied it, it does not contradict. Without Enoch or Jubilees , Genesis looks like a poorly written book of fairytales and looks like the Most High is bloodthirsty and a maniac. That’s what skeptics say until I tell them Enoch and Jubilees and they cannot say that because we see how the Most High got rid of evil beings that were destroying mankind. Otherwise, we be doomed. Finally, the NT heavily uses Enoch and some Jubilees and other books. To be consistent, people either reject NT or accept all the books. This has been the workings of hasatan for generations to attack the Scriptures. It’s no different than people attacking marriage, promoting abortion, etc.
The book of Enoch is one of the most referred to books in the Bible. If it's valid enough to be quoted in canon it's good enough to be in the Bible, any other answer doesn't make sense. I understand that it's easier to defend what is rather than admitting that mistakes have been made.
Might I add that the gospels themselves are believed to have been written between 66-110 ad so that your dismissal of Enoch based on when it was believed to be written would also dismiss the gospel 😬
At 4:21 he said enoch died later in hebrews 11:13...smh ...here's what hebrews 11:13 says....These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Where does this verse say that enoch died? Smh. Lies! Read the bible yourself and connect the dots...pray and Yah will guide you! There is no truth in this world....the book of Enoch is real!
I own the Paul C. Schneiders version and It doesn't say (in Enoch 71:13-14) that Enoch is the Son of Man. I always feel like so many people misquote apocryphal books. I was hoping that this man would put my mind at ease and convince me that there are only 66 valid books and everything else is a fraud (that would make life so much easier) but the more I look into it... the more I see that these books are valid. Maybe not canonical but definitely valid or at the very least credible.
@saulcruz87 - Both Enoch and the book of Jubilees tell us that man will make errors regarding the years, months, weeks and days. Keeping an open mind to study these "controversial" books, IMHO is proof of a seeker of truth. In my own experience, it seems we are on a mission to mine out nuggets of truth, or call them pieces of the big picture puzzle. Sometimes, it only takes finding that one piece for the picture to make sense. I firmly believe that many authentic works that contain truth have been kept from us and only the ones that serve an agenda have been allowed to be given to us and not in an incorrupt way, but certain words are changed to change the very meaning and understanding of the verse in question and since it doesn't match the context of surrounding verses, it can cause confusion which then makes the student give up. A very ingenious way for the devil to keep one from knowing the truth. I could share how this began with the Hebrew language, but it's too long to share here. The bottom line is this: NO ONE should let these "inconsistencies" keep them from the basic simple FAITH of Jesus Christ.
Just one addition, the bible didn't say that Enoch did die in Hebrews 11:13,It was referring to all who did die, but it clearly states that "he did not see death," the bible did point out all who died in the rest of Hebrews 11 and they named most of the previous individuals except Sara and Enoch. But we read about Sara's death in Genesis so. Just pointing that out. So I believe it's contrary to say he did not die but died afterwards.
I really appreciate your review on the books of Enoch, Jubilee and Jasher. If I had read them before listening to your testing, I would have read them in error. I would have believed them to be valid, I appreciate how you use the Canon of God's scripture as your ultimate authority. Thank you for testing The book of Enoch may God bless you. Shalom!
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!!! TEST the books for yourself but be forewarned! You had better know your bible inside and out FIRST. THATY is the ONLY WAY to test those written works and they have MERIT. SHAME on anyone who says otherwise becaue in their railings of false works, they ERR and expose themselves as untrustworthy.
There is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1-5 and verses 6-13. Notice that verse 13 states, “These all died in faith, not having received the promises.” What promises? When we look back on verses 7-11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah-not Enoch or Abel. Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4-5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.
If Enoch 1 is used to help a Holy Spirit filled believer bear fruit according to DIRECT Scripture, it is exceedingly valuable to those ministering to people caught up in deeper doubt, occult practice or intellectualizing. Not everyone receives the Holy Spirit the first day they begin to turn away from Babylon. We are all to grow in faith not doubt.The Father knows all. This book would not be here and now in this position as is if it was not used to teach true discernment. It is a teaching adjunct. We all know how short the time is. Ezekiel was also called "the Son of Man". Do not turn away as to be so confused that you give up distrusting everything.
Our lord Jesus says take everything to him in prayer and holy discernment I don't think there's anything wrong with any of this material we should take it all in just like the Sumerian Tablets or anything else it's not about the religion it's about our lord Jesus
I stopped listening at 11 mins plus. My spirit is seriously fighting with these human comments discrediting the book of enoch.This book was directly referred to in the bible. So the bible made a mistake by referring to it. Please be careful.
At 27:25 the narrator says that early Christians rejected Enoch as authoritative. Not exactly. Do these people actually read church history. When the council decreed what is scripture, in the case of the OT they followed the Jewish Torah. Books of the Law, Prophets and writings. The original Catholic Bible included the non canonical since they were included in the Septuagint . Enoch would have been included except for one small problem - Arius. Arius and his followers believed that Jesus was born human and did not exist before this time. The Book of Enoch presented a problem with their views and they made a very successful program of destroying every copy of Enoch that they could find. However Enoch was included in the Ethiopic Bible. Of course God already knew this and that is why Enoch states that HIS BOOK would not be available to most Christians but will be available in the end times.
You can't prove the book of Enoch was on the Ark. Im not disproving the book..But it was written by another author..Read it carefully, someone Its telling a story..
@@gravityfallscanada I take everything with a grain of salt...I don't believe everything in the bible is inspired because it was written by different authors and manipulated throughout the ages by jews & Christians to promote their agenda and exert control. I think the bible & the book of Enoch tell a great story about our past, our future and our creator. Should i apply a critical thought process?....My answer is yes..You are entitled to your own opinion, just as i am.
I disagree with you.Hebrews 11:13 is not referring to Enoch. Also how could Enoch have knowledge about the future? He walked with The Most High PERIOD. Shaking my head🧐
Let Yah be true and every man a liar!! HalleluYAH for the Ruach hakodesh and truly a baruch to see the body of who are being led in discernments comments and trusting in our Father alone!! Enoch the prophet as Jude said is just that a prophet! “Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them: Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.” Jeremiah 7:25-26 KJV Our understandings only comes from one teacher in truth the Ruach hakodesh for no longer will a man have to teach his neighbor. Regardless if we have not been led to the same understanding at the time we love each other and pray for each other and be thy brothers keepers!! For there are always going to be different parts of one body and milk and meat, and babes and elders yet a house divided cannot stand!! Paul before the road to Damascus was in erred understanding yet one of the elect and we are all in erred understanding each day to not rely on our own wisdom for we learn as a child of Yah daily and only emuwnah “faith” is credited as righteousness!! Shalom and love fam.
Quann Jones Don’t trust this fake. He attacked black people in his video about BHI. I am not defending racism of the racist BHI, but he is way off. That’s probably why Steve Moutria left this fake ministry.
This is true , Proverbs 15" a soft answer turneth away Wrath" they cannot even give a soft answer for all the bad remarks against them. They just ignored everybody. Something very wrong with that picture.
@@kguymyguyfrydie9710 I just saw that video you was talking about and you right and the crazy part is that they don't know what happen out there for them to be saying anything and I was talking to one of the isrealite brother and he told me that some of the white people was calling them the n word and all type of stuff but they didn't say that on video.
Very bias and they just simply don’t believe, they just analyze superficially, all Christian “leaders” have a lot to loose if they more than endorse Enoch, however in the book there is a wealth of knowledge and revelation that doesn not contradict doctrine.
So sad they are bashing the Book Of Enoch, Hosea 4:6 "My people are being destroyed because they don’t know me. Since you priests refuse to know me, I refuse to recognize you as my priests. Since you have forgotten the laws of your God, I will forget to bless your children." Book of Enoch 5.8 When wisdom is given to the chosen they will all live, and will not again do wrong, either through forgetfulness or through pride. But those who possess wisdom will be humble. 5.9 They will not again do wrong, and they will not be judged in all the days of their life, and they will not die of wrath or anger. But they will complete the number of the days of their life. And their life will grow in peace, and the years of their joy will increase in gladness and eternal peace; all the days of their life. The Book itself is for the Bible and Pro-God!
So I’m guessing y’all didn’t watch the whole video. Because it’s very simple. Either you believe the Bible or you don’t. If you don’t , then you will continually be deceived. Everything this man said in the documentary he backed up with scripture
The book of Enoch proves that the earth is flat and that Yahuah's Calendar from exodus 12:1 is what we should. Oh, and by the the FULL MOON is the new moon to start the count to the sabbath's and festivals. This is why those that adhere to Judaism reject the book of Enoch. May Yahuah bless you!
@@named161 the earth is flat. Why would they fake the moonlanding? If the sun and moon are lights in the firmament, it doesnt make any sense for them to be planets. Space isnt like you think space is the place of celestial waters.
@@Mano.Mujica Simply the earth isn't flat. You're trying to use the Bible to push your ignorant idea... I wonder if you've also not read in Isaiah where the scriptures says that the Lord sits in the circle of the Earth??? Simply .... The Bible isn't teaching geography. It's passing a message of God's love , power and salvation to us in a way we will understand. Simple.
I read this quote and immediately I understood that it was (Christ, Jesus) that spoke to Enoch so I'm going to interject the meanings that this word says to me! "And the Head of Days (Christ, Jesus) came with Michael and Raphael and Gabriel and Phanuel and thousands and tens of thousands of angels without number. And he (Christ, Jesus), came to me and greeted me with his voice and said to me, "You, (Juan), (this is my name) (are), (Of course I question this "are" here in parenthesis), that Son of Man, (Didn't God call Jeremiah Son of Man a few times?), who was born for righteousness (In Christ Jesus aren't we all born for righteousness?), and righteousness dwells on you, (Isn't Christ indwelling in makes me the righteousness of God in Him?) and the righteousness of the Head of Days, (Christ, Jesus) will not forsake you." (Didn't Jesus Christ say that He would never leave me or forsake me?) Now my question is, wherein this phrase did Enoch usurp authority and became Christ other than Christ in him (Enoch). Enoch's role was to act like Christ as His representative in the role he was called to do and that's why God took him! Because Enoch did his job right! Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! Paul says to take the good and throw out the bad!
A lot of things are in the dead sea scrolls, but it doesn't mean that all of them equates to Scripture. During the time of the Essenes, the Tanakh structure of the Old Testament had already been firmly established and that is the Scripture for them. Now speaking of which, the dead sea scrolls undeniably contains many writings which does express some truth to them, such as 4q246, otherwise known as the Son of God text. However even though such texts are found within the dead sea scrolls, it doesn't equate to Scriptures.
1Enoch (which contains parts of the book of Noah)The book of 1Enoch is actually 5 books in one, rediscovered in 1773 in Ethiopia. It has more and greater influence than all of the Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphal books put together on the New Testament of the bible. JUDE 14-15 Quotes 1Enoch 1:9-Plus the book of Dan. 7 :9-10,13-14 =1Enoch 14:20,41:1,46:1-5,48:3,71:8, Psalms 114:4,6,=1Enoch 51:4, Rev 21:1 =1Enoch 91:16, John 4:14=1Enoch48:1, Matt 5:5=1Enoch 5:7, John5:22=1Enoch 69:27, Matt19:29=1Enoch 40:9, Luke 6:24=1Enoch 94:8, Matt 19:28= 1Enoch 108:12, Matt 26:24=1Enoch 22:9,11, John 14:2=1Enoch 45:3, - Etc.- plus over 100 other New testament verses allude to what 1ENOCH says. Many Christians today and in the past consider it holy scripture and over 40 million Ethiopian Christians have it in their bible. The Coptic church of Alexandria has 1Enoch in their bible also. Church father Tertullian believed the book of Enoch or parts of it came off of Noahs Ark. Justin martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Irenaeus, Atanasius, Athenagoras, Commodianus, Lactantius, Methodius of Phillipi, Minucius Felix, Cyprian, Cassian, Ambrose, Nicephorus Augustine, Bishop of Lyons, Tatian,-All sanctioned the book of 1 Enoch. most called it scripture. Josephus-Philo-Eusebius also believed in its fallen angel ideas of 1Enoch. The writers of the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs, the Epistle of Barnabas, the book of Jubilees, The Zohar, Bin Gorian Sage and different books in the dead sea scrolls, Quote or talk about the book of 1Enoch It contains Prophecies of the Son of man, Jesus ,-final judgment,-Resurrection, messianic kingdom ,New Heaven and Earth, Fallen angels, the flood, End times, etc. There is an old book from 1853 called Babylon and Nineveh [Austen Henry Layard] in the book they found ancient pottery with the names of angel's found only in the book of 1Enoch- during excavation. If true making it one of the oldest books in the world-instead of the 400-200BC DATE. More copies of it are found in the dead sea scrolls then any other book except Genesis and Psalms. Showing that the Jewish people of Qumran, felt that the book of 1Enoch as important scripture. Some scholars today think Parts of the book of 1Enoch are older then are book of Genesis. The Jews rejected it in 90AD at the Counsil of Jamnia, because it for told about the Son of man coming [Jesus](church fathers Tertullian, clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Athenagoras all told us that the Jews rejected the book of 1Enoch because it for told the coming of Jesus.) And the early Catholic church rejected it because of its fallen angel ideas could not be dealt with. Ancient Books we have other than the bible fall into 4 group's. Intertestamental Apocryphal---Deutercanonical (apocrypha), 15 or so books depending on how you add or subtract-3&4maccabees, psalms 151 etc.[catholic-eastern orthodox -Coptic churches] these books are not on par with are 66 books of the bible, next the Pseudepigraphal [false authorship] books written from 250BC-300AD, then we have new testament apocrypha books written to late after the new testament 100AD-300AD+ they are not an eye witness accounts, few contain good orthodox ideas, most have spurious ideas and stories [some are a kind of ancient dime store novel] [ others are like ancient fictional satires such as the books of Adam and Eve, most provide little historical truth.] The most important of this group is the Odes of Solomon 80AD. Some eastern orthodox church's such as the assembly of Jerusalem considerate it scripture. and some think it inspired, but the main idea Christians , scholars and theologens all agree on is that God seemed to seal heaven up by 98-100 AD no more inspired books were written and the book of Revelations was the last. just as God in the past sealed heaven between Malachi and Mathew for a 450 year time frame between the Old and New testament. Next we have gnostic books written 140AD-300AD, Gnostic heresy [false Christian cult books] false authorship books that tried to destroy Christian orthodoxy, they wrote all kinds of garbage books with fraudulent ideas with fraudulent bible characters and stories found in Nag Hammadi Egypt in 1945(not to be confused with the Dead sea scrolls). This book also has a important Appendix of ancient theories-ideas and beliefs of early Jews and Christians. People such as Jehovah's witnesses- Seventh -day Adventists might have a hard time with it do to the idea of Hell, Shape of the cross, Two witnesses of Rev. Etc. But this book will prove that these ideas are most ancient Christian and Jewish beliefs The far most important books of the old testament times other than the bible is 1Enoch,, Jubilees and Jasher. Many scholars feel that these books should be put into a different category. Other than the apocrypha-pseudepigrapha-----category, many feel that they have true prophecy and history handed down from ancient times. 1Enoch 48:2 (R H Charles) And at that hour that Son of Man (Jesus) was named In the presence of the Lord of spirits (Holy Spirit), And his name before the Head of Days. (Father God) 1Enoch48:2(Laurence) In that hour this Son of Man (Jesus) invoked before the Lord of Spirits (holy spirit), and his name in the presence of the Ancient of Days. (Father God) Eusebius , CHRON I, III, in patrol , Graec, XIX, 115f- Noah was ordered in his day "to inscribe in writings the beginning, middle and end of everything and to bury the records in the city Sippar" In the dead sea scrolls (1 QapGen) it says that Abraham read to them the words[ book] of Enoch, then in 4Q559 it says that Abraham ----He gave to Levi the book of the Words of Enoch[to preserve and pass on to his own descendants] The book of Jasher occurs in 2 Samuel 1:17-18 =Jasher 56, 9 then look up Joshua 10, 12-13 =Jasher 88:63-64 the book of Jasher has been virtually ignored since it was discovered, the book of Jasher holds vital clues to interpreting and understanding biblical chronology, from the flood to the exodus. A mistake made by Archbishop James Ussher, who was unfamiliar with the book of Jasher. Led to a 60 year error in placing the birth of Abraham, But this error is corrected in the chronological keys provided by the book of Jasher. And with these keys, an intriguing, and astounding story emerges. Although it is not divine Scripture, it nevertheless is a mighty historical and ancient work which relates directly to Biblical historical times and events. The historical book of Jubilees was once held in high regard by the early church fathers, but the Pharisee party of Judaism declared it and several other books (1 Enoch) to be thrown to the wind in 90AD (Council of Jamnia ) and Rome followed suit (the catholic church) Thank God that the Ethiopian church was not under the edicts of Rome and preserved the book of 1Enoch and Jubilees. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. (Matt 5:5) The elect shall possess light, joy and peace, and they shall inherit the earth.(1Enoch 5:7, 6:9) The Father Judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (John 5:22) The principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the Son of Man (1Enoch 69:27) shall inherit everlasting life (Matt 19:29) Those who will inherit eternal life (1Enoch 40:9) Woe unto that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It had been good for that man if he had not been born. (Matt 26:24) Where will the habitation of sinners be who have rejected the lord of spirits. It would have been better for them, had they never been born (1Enoch 22:9, 38:2) “woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.(Luke 6:24) Woe to you who are rich, for in your riches have you trusted: but from your riches you shall be removed. (1Enoch 94:8, 93:7) between us and you there is a great gulf fixed (Luke 16:26) by a chasm. are there souls are separated 1Enoch 22:9,11, 22:10-12 the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4:14) all the thirsty drank, and were filled with wisdom, having their habitation with the righteous, the elect, and the holy. (1Enoch 48:1). Side note. the book of Enoch and the book of Jubilees are Holy Writ for the Ethiopian Falasha Jews also.
@Prey R iv read the book of Enoch several times , if your referring to laMeck seeing Enoch , and calling him not a angel but a son of God like all humans are sons of God , then there is no, problem!
@Prey R and the current copy of the book of JASHER is from a much much much older copy than the AD800 one and there are two other different Books of Jasher in circulation also a total of 3 entirely different, with one original! Study and you will find this out, next the only categories modern seminarys can place anything is apocryphal., psudepigraphal, gnostic, or dutrocannical , there is a 5 th category called real! But when it comes to the game of telephone with this subject, he say she say BAD so run , is ridiculous- read them for yourself , jubilee and thr real Jasher historicaly support the Bible in a huge way!
@Prey R OK I hope you understand that the book of Enoch prophecies fortels the coming of Jesus as the Son of man , Sounds like you have never read the book of Enoch !
concerning the question, did Enoch die and then go to heaven? the answer is simple and is given by Jesus in john charter 3:13 . it reads moreover , not man has Ascended into heaven, but the one who descended from heaven, the son of Man. so according to jesus Enoch was not taken to heaven. its very clear in the tect of john. and yes Enoc did die, just like moses,what God did was cut their life short and bury their body, so their enemies could not find these god fiering poeple, and use thier bodies in some Form of false worship.
@Paul kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4 It's actually your faith which gets you the promise of the inheritance of the land, not the book of Enoch. The word through the Holy Spirit and prayer is your teacher, not men. Men are just commentries which need to be tested, read all of Deuteronomy 13. 119 ministries have been right, but in my opinion, have been wrong many times as well.
Book of Enoch (1) is a massive support to the case of Jesus, probably the best when you start to analytically understand the Tanakh and NT, history etc. Yes it was written late and not by The Enoch. Idk, it rings some truth to me at least.
The Book of Enoch is a book of lies made up over 2400 years after the events it pretends to tell about. It reeks of lies. It does NOT lead to Jesus at all. Why do you think it does???
@@justinerasmus8725 what most people don't understand: God gave the Torah to Israel. Israel and the children of Ishmael are RELATED through Abraham. I'm a very exact person when it comes to using correct terms. For anyone who is descended form Abraham to call another descended, an antisemite, they are also speaking against themselves. God states quite clearly that the nations can worship their other gods, but Israel, ONCE THEY ENTER INTO COVENANT with Him, are not allowed to. So my takaway from this is: If you feel called to practice Islam, then do so, but it serves a person well to explore everything related to God including the Bible that Christians and Jews have.
Well, I didn't realize you all opened the comment sections of your videos up for iron-sharpening-iron discussions B-) I do commend you for this, and I pray Truth Seekers can learn to discuss these things in love (these types of discussions/studies help us to "grow in love") ;-) I need to watch this vid, but I do have thoughts on the luminary chapters of Enoch as it relates to the concept to Time and/or to putting Genesis 1:14 in action. Stay tuned, and I will let you know my thoughts on your thoughts ;-) Shalom Friends B-)
Faith Child we’ll see how long the comment section stays on. Lately when too many people disagree with their teachings, they will turn off Likes and Comments.
Shalom Mikee One, Did you watch the teaching? It answers your question in the teaching. If you would rather read the transcript, we have it available on our website. You can find it here: www.119ministries.com/teachings/video-teachings/detail/testing-the-book-of-enoch/ We hope this helps Blessings and Shalom
Judgement has already commenced at the cross. Enoch prophesies that the rebellious Angel's would be bound for 70 generations before they are judged. Some have observed that according to Luke's genealogy, there are 70 generations between Enoch and Yeshua. And if Enoch was the seventh generation from Adam, then Yeshua would be the 77th. If one understands the significance of the number 7 in the entire Bible, one should not dismiss such symbolic importance.
It's obvious that your main concern is maintaining a 66 Book canon. Did you know that Jesus on two seperate occations and James also once quoted books outside of the accepted 66 books. Btw, Both Jesus and James when quoting those books called them " Scripture" Since Jesus Himself testifies of books outside of the 66 books, I'm gonna believe Jesus over you guys.
Anonymous which ones are they? I’d love to learn more! I’ve been weeding through so many “lost books” and I’m confused
I too am wary with how they came up with the 66 books.
The 1st book of Enoch is a big help for me in understanding some of the texts in the Bible
Didn't Jesus said that angels DO NOT have sex?
Didn't Jesus Himself said after His ressurection, that spirit doesn't have flesh and bones?
While we have angels who seduce the daughters of men, and had sex with them in the book of Enoch.
I know that Jude wrote about angels who walk outside of their boundary, but this could mean the demons aka the fallen angels.
In Jesus's time, there never were hybrids of angels and humans, and we have A LOT of demons and evil spirits work around.
If the fallen are real, then there should exist some hybrids in Jesus's time.
Because in the book of Enoch, there were hybrids.
But there weren't.
And MOST importantly,
Jesus is the Son of Man, not Enoch.
@Nicodemus Edwards
If you take the words of the Book of Enoch as truth,
and do not believe in Jesus's words, then there is nothing left to talk here.
@Nicodemus Edwards Alright then.
Hebrews 11:13 does not say Enoch died.
I believe Enoch will experience death along with Elijah. Revelation illustrates two prophets in the end times that cannot be harmed until God allows it. I believe those two prophets are Enoch and Elijah brought back to finish their work.
That is a really interesting point you're making! Wow, never thought of that. That could very well be...
Was john the baptist not Elijah? how can he come back again?
@@ricoparadiso I'm not exactly sure what you are asking. What we read in scripture is that John the Bapist was Jesus' cousin. He was his own man. Elijah is a completely different person. Elijah was a prophet about 850 years before Christ was born. The scriptures tell us that Elijah, like Enoch was taken by God. Those are the only two individuals in the Bible that mention being taken by God and not dying. In accordance to God's plan He will bring Elijah and Enoch back to be prophets in the end times. Revelation mentions the two prophets who can't be touched/hurt until He allows it, I just believe (because of the reasons I just mentioned) that it is Elijah and Enoch. If the "bringing them back" part seems hard to believe just remember that Jesus raised Lazarus from the dead, keeping in mind that Lazarus was actually dead compared to Elijah and Enoch who didn't die.
@@ricoparadiso John the Baptist was murdered by Herod, Elijah was transformed. Elijah will surely come back
Mark 9:2-30
And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.
And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.
And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.
And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.
For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.
@@seapanther53 You are very right.
I stopped in minute 4:22 and wrote a comment. Then I began to read other comments... evidently 119 is rejecting the Book of Enoch. Big mistake. The fact is it is so suspicious to me that the Catholic-Jews Bible is 66 books..... you get my point.
Catholic Jews books? The Jews only include the Old Testament. The Catholics include the apocrapha.
Actually I’ll argue you here on just this 66 book point. There’s a good reason why Jesus arrives on the 40th book of the Protestant Bible, it’s the end of the waiting period. There’s a good reason why the New Testament is 27 books too(3x3x3, the Cube number). 66 isn’t a bad number, 666 is a bad number.
That said, we agree, Enoch is originally inspired but there are errors added to the text. Most notably Chapter 22. Enoch is meant to be dissected by the Holy Spirit. Most but not all of it will pass the test. GOD Bless!
With all respect, your opinion about the content in the video does not come off as very trustworthy if you draw conclusions from only 4 minutes of watching and reading people's comments.
Watch it first and be patient to hear them out, or else you cant form a legitimate opinion.
@@amkr186 I have studied the matter and sometimes you grasp the point of the author earlier. Anyway, if you don’t agree with me, it’s ok. You might someday agree if you study the matter for some hundred hours. It takes time and humility to admit that we have been deceived.
@@cmorales5 Yes you are right in that one can grasp a point earlier, I am sorry.
I find that people arrive to very different conclusions depending on weather they derive information from the scriptures we know as the bible today or from these other sources. How come they would contradict? Those who use books like Enoch etc. will have different approaches to the appointed times and the calendar for instance. Any explanation? Do you believe the scriptures as we have them today have been altered?
I don’t know if this was intentional, or if 119 ministries just did not read the entire book of Enoch, but they definitely left some very important details out and falsely accused the writer of claiming to be the messiah. I took their advice literally, “test everything”. It IS my responsibility and I have come to see this teaching on Enoch inaccurate. They spoke of one section from the book of Enoch, claiming that the writer is proclaiming himself the messiah. I believe that they were referencing 1 Enoch chapter 46. I highly encourage everyone to read it for themselves. It bothers me when people make up stuff so that they can take a definitive stand. Also, the argument about when it was written or the literature style, to me does not warrant a “this is a blasphemous book” stand. Why not take the stand of “we’re not 100% sure ourselves so we say read with extreme caution.
E X A C T L Y ... i agree 100% with you
I know you wrote this a long time ago, but I agree. Plus Enoch 1 was found in the Dead Sea scrolls, or at least fragments of it. Clearly it has to date earlier than these experts claim since it was found in a cave that was all dated as earlier.
If Jesus quoted Enoch as scripture then who is anyone who is a believer to say that Enoch is not a valid book. To say that is to say Jesus quoted from a false work. Does any believer really want to go there???
YES!!! ALL should read the work for themselves. It is a very heady work and one truly needs to know their scriptures before reading it.
I've read all3 Enochian books and Book 1 is the most accurate. Books 2 and 3 are adulterated IMHO and not trustworthy.
If Joshua and 2 Samuel refer to it then it should be considered a genuine work otherwise to say it's a false work is to then say the bible is promoting a false book.
We all need to use a little common sense and lots of prayers asking for discernment from the Holy Spirit when reading ANY work.
If I might:
1 Enoch has chapters about the 364 day calendar. THIS BOOK is the TRUE ENOCH.
2 ENoch (SLavonic) is an adulterated work which attempts (badly it does) to fit our actual solar year of 365 and 1/4 days [along with pagan Gregorian calendar months].
This is incorrect and there are other parts in it also that are suspect.
3 Enoch is more rabbinic commentary and leaves out crucial calendar info. ALSO -- [and this is just a prediction it is pointing to (YES....I'm going to say it) aliens.
Chapter 33 has text: "EACH ONE WITH THREE FINGERS"
Chapter 44 alludes to GRAY PEOPLE.
I have copious notes for all 3 books and various copies from different translators who published.
So far 1 Enoch (Ethiopian) is the correct one.
I hope that helps. IMHO stay away from the other two.
When does Jesus quote Enoch? I know Peter and Jude do, but we don't know if its the same version that is available through the Ethiopian church today. The parts of the book of Enoch found with the Dead Sea scrolls has some different words in it, not that it changes the meaning, but its not inerrant like the scriptures. I find Enoch useful for history and context.@@ateachableheart2649
Please add verse in the bible where " book of Enoch" is quoted. Not your opinion pls. Ppl lie all the time. I trust the bible. I dont have time for ppls opinion anymore
2 Esdras 14:44
In forty days they wrote two hundred and four books.
So the Bible is not 66 or 87 books, there are so many books went missing, ELOYHM/YHUH is not author of confusion but of peace, ... 2 Timothy 3:16
You have to be more careful with that assumption because some books require multiple scrolls such as Isaiah, Psalms, and Enoch.
@@crutherfordmusic Show me in the American canon of 66 the verse that says to canonize 66 scrolls?
You are a classic Bible doubter ... Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3 7 KJV
@@4ucmikey 🔥💥⚡👍🏿
I see no reference to Enoch in Matthew.
Matthew 22
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
How difficult would it be, I wonder, for the devil to twist scripture to his own ends? Is Enoch quoted in Jude, or Jude quoted in Enoch? Now the Spirit speaks expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; And I fear that as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your mind will be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Tempting, this new knowledge is - these new books - secret until now... hidden... the new truths we now have. Don't they taste good!
Jesus is the way, the truth and the life. There is only one way to the King, and it is narrow. If reading Enoch helps you get to know Jesus, good for you! But remember, no lie is of the truth.
Like Dr Michael Heiser says, just because it's not in the Bible doesn't mean it's not important. The Old testament often quotes ancient literature and other books.
I don't agree that Hebrews 11:13 states that Enoch died. Hebrews 11:5 does clearly state that Enoch was taken by God, then verse 6 seems to give a breaking sentence that separates the thought, then comes back in verse 7 to continue the "by faith" segment. But I think verse 6 separates Enoch from the "all" the author bundles together in verse 13. Also, Jesus Himself quoted the Book of Enoch to the Pharisees and told them they err in not knowing the SCRIPTURES! So I really do not believe this was researched out biblically. Just my opinion. Blessings!
He has confused the Enoch from the Cain linage which is what most do when trying to contest the book of Enoch. There are 2 Enoch's & the Evil Enoch had many writings that are used to confuse the truth of GOD.
Enoch the son of Jared lived closely with god and was taken by god, Enoch the son of Cain died. These writings are believed to be from Enoch son of Jared
@Scott M Sykes Hebrews 11:5 does though.
Heb 11:5 - "By faith "Enoch" was translated so as not to see death, and "was not found, because God translated him." For before his translation, he had obtained witness to have been pleasing to God." ( see Gen. 5:24 ) (LITV)
"So as not to see death" - is very unambigious, that is very plain - Enoch didn't die.
I personally believe he will be one of the two witnesses of Revelation 11
I agree, i was going to say that but its speaking more of abraham, and noah, not enoch when it says these men died... because the bible clearly states enoch did not taste death: we have to be 2 timothy 2:15 studiers! To rightly divide the Word of truth! God bless you!
There were also two Enoch’s, Enoch the son of Jared is the Enoch that walked with God, not to be confused with Enoch the son of Cain
walked with god ? I thought Jacob broke gods Achilles heel and crippled god ,so god could not possibly walk
@@carmineredd1198 WHAT!!!! I refuse to believe that don't mix this with Greek mythology
Jacob wrestled with God and lost. God injured Jacob's hip and Jacob became Israel, who walked with a limp.
Alex Bailey actually both of you are wrong !!
Jacob wrestled with (some believe it refers to an angel) a divine being and did so all night and when the being told him to let go, Jacob said no! Not unless you bless me. And so, the being touched his hip and broke it and said his new name is Israel because he struggled with angels and prevailed with God
carmine redd sorry buddy you got that all the backwards
Jude directly quotes the Book of Enoch in the New Testament. It is part of Ethiopian Canon, one of the oldest established churches. This book both elaborates on Genesis 6 and further solidifies the truth about the Earth, Sun, and Moon. I have no doubt why it was done away with.
Not really. Enoch for sure isn’t inspired. Unless you believe that human kind can bring forth with the angel kinds. Can humans also bring forth of the gorilla kind, horse and other animals?!
@@godloves9163 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
@@zariahlafleurpowell7028 what’s your point? Sons of God are referring to as believers in God. Yes angels at some times have been referred to as sons of God, however, the New Testament is clear that angels CANNOT REPRODUCE and ARE NOT HUMAN 👉KIND👈. The Bible is clear that each kind can bring forth after THEIR OWN KIND. Is the angel kind the same as human kind?
@@godloves9163 no in fact there are different kinds of angles sons God is a family in Genisis it says let us make man in Our image. The arch Angel's are indeed sons of God arch over seer of the Angel's watchers of the Angels. Genisis 6 is a part of the bible that talks about the sons of God not humans at this point who hadn't been called into the God family yet. May God bless your study I'm just sharing what I've found it's ok if we believe different in our journeys to the one truth that God alone knows fully
@@zariahlafleurpowell7028 I did my research as well. People only imply it’s angels. Sorry it’s not spiritual angels, it’s either fleshly or not. There’s no hybrids. And yes there were giants in those days. Most of everything was giant, that’s the point. Genesis is showing the proof of giants because this is what our archeologists find today and can’t explain it except through the Bible lens. Giant reptiles aka dinosaurs, giant animals, giant insects. Hence why the bible says there were giants on the earth in those days.
the book of Enoch is one of the scriptures which was meant for the end times only the wise will understand it not the foolish. This guy did not do enough research he listens the words of men then rely on the Holy Spirit.The book of Enoch is the word of G-D. The earth is flat just as it says do not listen to man who obey satan the evil one.He is the great deceiver who deceives the whole earth.May Yeshua guide and bless all who read His word, Amen
I have to disagree with you on this one jeffsr2222
You must be real wise then ... Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, Romans 1 22 KJV
You are bewitched by the synagogue of satan
@@brucedressel8873 putting words in his mouth? He didn't profess himself to be wise.
Enoch is NOT the Messiah!
Sheeeesh.....Thank God for the Holy Spirit, who leads to ALL Truth and Understanding. The FIRST Book of Enoch resonates as Truth in my Spirit, that is all I need.
You are bewitched ...
Rings true for me also. God bless.
I agree, the first one feel right to me the second one does not, at least not all of it, and haven’t even listened to the third. Heard it was not very trustworthy at all
The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked.
5 Trust in the Lord with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
7 Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the Lord, and depart from evil.
Proverbs 3
"Matthew 22:29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God in heaven" the only book talking about angel not given in marriage is enoch
But the one point I would say is that those are Angel's which are in heaven. Not fallen Angel's who desecrate themselves with man.
@@richardwhite6062 Well stated. The key statement is "but are like angels "in" heaven. Not the ones that got cast down to earth because of rebellion. This group is obviously going again the most high.
The people above made my point. But they are right, the angels left heaven and defiled themselves with women. In Matthew, they are "in" heaven.
Also, read Genesis Chapter 6. Nephalim=Giants
And Yeshua is the antithesis of the Nephilim, even though he too came down from the sky.
Sorry. You just aren’t accurate. It was quoted in the Bible and evidence suggest Jesus was familiar with it and it probably predates all the other books. Daniel even references a book that was for future believers in the end times. Enoch (through about the first 54 chapters) fits this prophecy perfectly. It was also found with the Dead Sea scrolls and new manuscript translations matched the older ones found with the scrolls.
When were the Dead Sea Scrolls discovered?
It seems that book was Revelation.
Jude. Quoted in Jude. Jewish tradition supports it. One of the oldest surviving Christian Cultures (Ethiopia) and many small orthodox Christian sects still have the Book of Enoch in their cannon. Read it and it’s apparent why the Jesuits would want to remove it from modern translations.
I believe there are sufficient evidence that warrants a more thorough examination of the evidence. To throw the writing out, is a mistake. I think we are going to find out very soon how real the Nephilim really are.
@@franklinmc4457 The Nephilim were real as stated in Torah. There is no need for the book of Enoch to understand this fact. The book of Enoch is not inspired by YHVH. If you read the Torah you get enough information on giants, angels, and their interactions with men and women to be aware.
Apostle Jude is a reliable man of Christ and of The Father in Heaven. He clearly mentioned "Enoch Seventh from Adam". It is at his precise words when he quoted (Jude 1:14-15) verse from the Book of Enoch (1:9) both are parallel. This is full well enough Enoch's scripture was indeed inspired. Jude knew it, and hypocrites don't.
Grow up and dig a little deeper to understand the full picture. Listen to the entire video and read some entire articles ok this topic. You are just cherry picking and ignoring what you don't like. YOU are the hypocrite.
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It was a bunch of men that got together and decided what when into the bible we use today. People there are many Books ....
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I personally think every mature believer grounded in Scripture should read Enoch prayerfully. I have benefited greatly from it in my understanding of Genesis. It has also changed the way I view world history and the history of God's people. It goes into detail about what the fallen angels were doing and how genetic mad science and sorcery was introduced to mankind. It also gives more context as to why we have all of these same creatures showing up in mythology and lore all across the globe; things like mermaids, dragons, giants, goblins, minotaurs, fairies, centaurs, werewolves, shapeshifters, bigfoot, UFOs and aliens. All these creatures trace their origins back to some kind of supernatural source which we know as the fallen angels who wanted to create their own reality on earth in rebellion to God.
As it was in the days of Noah so shall it be in the days of the coming of the son of man. The reason why I believe what Enoch says is because I am seeing the same things come back nowadays, the way people are playing with genetics and even the human soul. And the way sorcery and all kinds of demonic doctrines are coming more to the forefront and even being taught to children in schools. The way the basics of natural order like gender is being rejected in favor of creating our own false realities, that means we can have sex with anything and everything just like the people did before the flood. This opens the door to sex with demons which will create all kinds of problems.
I believe these extra details presented in Enoch will help protect God's people even more from deception because we have a better idea of what to look out for.
Very well said.
@@ljsultan229 thank you, God bless
I also believe that enoch should be studied
If Enoch was with God then he could have seen what happened at mt Sinai. Am I correct! God knows all things and angels can see from above so how is that not true too.
Yes! the first section of 1 Enoch describes God showing himself to the people of Israel at Sinai and it describes the covenant that God made with his people and declares that God keeps that same covenant. The rest of the bible agrees and shows time after time how God keeps those same promises with his people.
They are so bias they erased my comment because I challenged them and I was not inappropriate in anyway they are like Facebook fact checkers, very sad, they are not genuinely interested in the validity or not of the book of Enoch they are just trying to wash their hands so they don’t lose any reputation by endorsing it in anyway
Enoch was not an angel. The Bible never states that Enoch went to Heaven, just that he was saved from death. If you believe scripture, Yeshua says specifically:
John 3:13
“No one has ascended into heaven except he who descended from heaven, the Son of Man.”
This verse should shut all discussion down about the topic of Heaven. Elijah was transported to another place, we know this because he sends a letter to Jehoram. All of the prophets talk about going to sleep in the dust, nothing mentioning going to heaven and looking down on the sorrows of this world or being an angel. David is said to be “sleeping with his fathers” it mentions nothing of going to heaven.
@@soloscriptura7451 Did not Jesus tell the thief on the cross, "Today thou shalt be with me in paradise?" Is not paradise heaven? So in other words, Jesus told the thief he would be WITH JESUS in paradise.
@@zjmtnvols nothing in scripture indicates that he went to Heaven. He was telling him he was redeemed for believing in him, therefore the law of sin and death does not apply to him. I’ll pay you to show me anywhere in scripture it says “such in such is in Heaven” besides Yeshua. You won’t find it, because it’s not there. Shalom.
God Bless to all Book of Enoch believers. I wish that somebody will open a church that will actually teach and preach about the Book Of Enoch.😊
There is nothing to teach it is all laid out clearly , anyone can read Enoch nowadays. But still they chose their own understanding and wisdom.
Shalom! Check out Parable of the Vineyard comprehensive Enoch study on UA-cam. 😊
So the bible is not enough.....
@@justinerasmus8725 Of course! But the Book of Enoch is part of the Bible
If the book of Jasher was not scriptural, why would the book be mentioned in two very distinct places in the gospels? First mentioned in Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven and hasted not to go down about a whole day. and then again, it is made mention in 2Samuel 1:18. (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)
Jude is included in the Bible, he spoke of Enoch he wasn’t mocked for it. After, Paul spoke Enoch to the Jews in Hebrews He was inspired by the Lord. Are we to say we can’t trust Paul writing that Enoch was translated?? Yet these are saying they trust some scholar instead??? Or doctrines of men? Are we not to test all things with the Bible? Would their not be warnings against trusting in Enoch or maybe just not mentioned at all? I have seen other videos on this ch. & am seeing the same pattern of choosing scripture to their interpretation and making it sound like there is no way to think otherwise than what they are presenting.
DANGEROUS! BEWARE & BE AWARE!!
That's why the bible says the Holy Spirit well lead you in all truth,!! Not intellectualism will lead you into all truth read flag number one!!
Spiritual truth i think this is literally just a rouse to bring out the anger and evil these guys cant be this serious. They test nothing and are taught these things and cant re kearn their way around it i have tried to talk to these kind of channels with the same end everytime they speak their brliefs and refuse or spiritually are blind to it and until they come to Jesus they will stay this way. I try to speak to other channels and go back and forth on scripture and i always end up amazed they will not hear what the scripture says. I hope that if nothing else it plants the Seed
Well they also say adults would eventually become circumcised, completely obliterating what Paul warns in Galatians.
However- Jew and Gentile are to become one flesh. Worship on the same days, set apart by God, and eat the same foods, not grieving one another.
The Spirit will lead to all truth, and the Spirit will lead to Torah and how God always wanted to circumcise our hearts.
Elwood M. Buel well what is required of gentiles in the Torah and what was taken away with Jesus. Like the feasts did anyone get Leaven out of their house and have perfect unspotted lamb for dinner and make sure that none of it remain in the morning. Or is Jesus the Perfect Lamb that and to celebrate it would just be remembering our sins yr to year that can never be judged by food or feast say. 🙏🏼Romans 6:6knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, so that the body of sin might be annulled, that we are no longer enslaved to sin. 7For the one having died has been freed from sin.
8Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him, 9knowing that Christ, having been raised up out from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer rules over Him. 10For that which He died, He died to sin once for all; but that which He lives, He lives to God. 11So also you, consider yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but living to God in Christ Jesus. 🙏🏼👉this is the Berean Literal which matches to original greek best. Notice the term “old man” this is also the same reference as the Parable of the Wineskins. Which is about the Old & New Covenants. Which is also in the story of the Wedding where Jesus turned water to wine and that He Brings the Good Wine now. Sorry this is long but since Christ.Truther and Parable of th Vine. Blocked me and my second ch. The people will choose their own paths. And if they believe they have hidden truths the all will fall into the ditch. As for the Torah one easy Scripture answers that John 6: 28Therefore they said to Him, “What must we do, that we may be doing the works of God?”
29Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you should believe in Him whom He has sent.” 🙏🏼this is also why it is important to have Faith in Salvation where if you are bringing the Gospel the Torah is not there. Why a man can accept Jesus in his death bed seconds before his death. Hiw can one be saved in this manner with the Torah? Seek truth in the New Covenant and you will find it
The Bible also quotes various non Christians. Should they be considered doctrine too then by your logic
What I find astounding is that people don't have any spiritual discernment . In the New testament Jesus teaches us about demons. The book of Enosh explains where the demons came from. Most the books in the new testament contain word for word references from the book of Enosh.
Jacobus Van der Merwe I really can say, I didn’t understand the difference between demons and fallen angels until reading Enoch. Demons come from dead Nephilim. Even one of the words used for demons is also talking about Nephilim, the Rephaim. I asked a guy from Israel, “what is a Rephaim?” He said demon, although in the Bible the first appear as Giants, then later as demons and the inhabitants of the underworld.
@@spitflamez yes the angels had sex with the daughters of men and their offspring were giants. When these giants died because they were born on the earth they became demonic spirits. The original 200 angels that decided to cohabit with woman are bound till judgement day.
@@jacobusvandermerwe1922 Regarding Enoch, some doubters get caught up on certain words and passages in Enoch, just like in Jubilees and Jasher. They get too caught up on things that appear out of line or incorrect and start assuming the entire book is false or something. People who do that are not understanding by the spirit, instead, they may gain some understanding then listen to "scholars" who have there own agenda to debunk the text, then this cycle continues on and on. Jesus will soon make things clear to all.
Demons are evil spirits not angels
@@kervinrobinkneshoa7213 the book of Enoch explains this the angels that sinned in Genius 6 took daughters of men and slept with them their children became giants. When these giants were killed they became demons or evil spirits. They were told to remain on earth as they were made on the earth
What Jesus says in Matthew 22:30 can only be found in 1 Enoch. Please refer to verse 29. And Jude alludes to 1 Enoch many times before directly quoting it, but you'd have to study "all scripture" (including 1 Enoch) to know that.
Quoting another book doesn’t make it scriptures. Unless you believe all the other secular books the Bible quoted are scripture?
@@godloves9163 But my friend....JESUS SAID IT!!! Of course I know, that means nothing if you don't belong to Him.
@@ateachableheart2649 Jesus also quoted other unbiblical sources. Does that mean those need to be included in the Bible? Secondly, the book of Enoch was a fake and how do you know it wasn’t written after claiming to be written before and then quoting Jesus…
@@godloves9163 Jesus IS LORD. For anyone who says otherwise by saying He quoted unbiblical sources is tantamount to blaspheming the Holy Spirit. Jesus had something to say about that. RU sure you wanna go there?
I think you're a shill, certainly NOT a true follower of Christ Jesus.
@@godloves9163 please cite the source of information that proves Enoch is a fake book. NO ONE can prove that and even if they could, then that makes Jesus a fake and there my friend you tread on dangerous ground.
119 failed to test Enoch properly.
Agreed
YEP!
Agreed, just like what he said Enoch died in Hebrews 11:13. I didn’t read as such that Enoch died ...maybe they had other interpretations that I don’t understand?
Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints don't accept the books Enoch as canon. We do however have additional scriptures about him, but not derived from the apocrypha. Moroni is pronounced Mor-OH-nye, btw.
I confirm the Book of Enoch is NOT cannon and is considered apocryphal. Also, we are NOT an " end times community" any more than other deciples Jesus Christ.
All i can say is the book of enoch makes me change my life totally,when i read how enoch petition for the fallen angels and God rejected all 200,it teaches me that we take Sin too lightly and think that as we say Lord forgive us we are forgiven,i cried ,i got scared,these now a days pastors only interested in money,they don't preach hell and holiness
You can get the same moral from the canon Bible.
Question everything, and do not let the hyper-religious self proclaimed gurus sway your love for Jesus. Jesus hates religion
You are going to lead yourself into deception trying to challenge Gods Word by adding falsehoods
Jesus does not hate religion my friend, read the book of James : "Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."
James 1:27 (kjv)
God bless you brother
(Ps: God does hate wickedness and deception, which is what FALSE religions are, there is only one true religion because there is only one true God 😁) have a blessed weekend!
We can jump around all day but only one verse matters here.
2 Timothy verses 16-17
"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness"
When 119 is confident they know something, they block comments on their videos. When they question themselves, they open up the comments section to allow people to change their minds. This video is great evidence of that. And 119 ministries is very wrong on this video. The book of Enoch is very accurate.
This man is pissing me off comparing the Book of Enoch to the wizard of Oz
Enoch walked with Yahweh and Enoch walked for 365 year of age. Enoch didn't die Yahweh took Enoch to heaven.
He needs to read the Bible and the book of Enoch again
@@jessicamatlock6786 If what you say is true, then Jesus was a false Messiah. Jesus said in John 3:13 "No man ascendeth up to heaven, but he who came down from heaven". Jesus was the one who came down from heaven, therefore NO OTHER MAN can ascend into heaven, except Jesus. This either proves you to be wrong in your Enoch interpretation, or it proves Jesus to be a liar and a false Messiah. Which one do you think is most likely? Scripture actually uses the word "translated" and not "taken" to describe what happened to Enoch. Enoch was translated to heaven. Heaven is a spiritual relm NOT A FLESHLY relm for men. Its very clear Enoch was "translated" into the spirit in order to be taken into heaven. Your mistranslation has turned Jesus into a liar.
@@mattyice3036 prophet Elijah ascended to heaven also.
I,v learn so much from the book of Enoch how wonderful to know how God created each thing in time and how it has blessed me I am amazed at all the things I,v learned knowing God power and how amazing he is
Where can find the book of Enoch?
@@sollos2001 you can download it from the playstore.
guys just note that the book of Enoch says that he , Enoch, is the son of man, 99% truth can be 100% a deception, be careful
Amen!
The God Culture has a testing Enoch series wherein he DEFENDS it unlike 119 did here
Took me a few days to watch. I wanted to write a few things. You're clearly missing something if you're saying it was revealed to a select few... It's a book for all eyes to see, in the end times. This isn't gold plates with special glasses requirements, this is a printed distributed book. All Jews knew about it back then before the diaspora, not just a select few. How was it exclusive? You mean the elect? You gloss over many facts here as well. It's hard to write a paragraph about a 45 minute video but you saying in Jude they quote Enoch, then read the contexts which says "Enoch prophesied" then say it's not inspired. I mean think about that statement you make here. You're saying it's prophesy but not to be regarded as scripture? Do you ignore some prophets? Do you teach people to ignore the prophets? If what you say is true then Jude can not be trusted because of the false testimony here claiming Enoch is a prophet. Even if it was passed down orally then why do you think writing it would be any less true? The Brit Hadashah states clearly Enoch prophesied which means we must listen or disregard the book of Jude as well. Ignore Enoch to your own peril, it was written for our time. It emerged as Israel became a nation in day and the dead sea scrolls were found at the same time. give or take a couple months, it is significant evidence. Also if what you say is true and it's an oral tradition then you just opened up a can of talmudic worms because if that oral tradition made it into the Brit Hadashah then ALL of it must be considered. The way you steer the conversation is odd too with out reference. And don't get me started on your lame translation, did you purposely chose one that said "myriads" instead of 10 thousand to steer even more? Mine says 10 thousand not myriads. Even the first Enoch link in google shows 10 thousand, not myriad. The one quote from Michael Hesier is just an opinion also, no fact here. He is assuming something. This how you get led away. Jude plainly says it is prophesy, not a false doctrine. Is Michael Hesier your new Paul or is Jude enough? If you're going to question whether all of Enoch is trustworthy then you must do the same with the Brit Hadashah big time. The catholic fingerprints are disgusting in it. Entire lines are missing from the gospels, the lines with deep meaning. We walk around half blind trying to make sense of it all.
It seems like your biggest problem with the Book of Enoch is that there are people who are chosen, the elect. Well I hate to break it to you but the Elect are real. Yeshua called me his Elect one day himself with his own mouth. Why would he break his silence on a day when I was not praying or doing anything religious just to say that if it wasn't important? Just working in my house, why would he break his silence to call me his elect? He told me he loves me, and I am his, he also told me to get ready. Not all are elect though so I will say that now so you don't call anyone who accepts Yeshua elect. Is that what you mean when you say it was for a select few? That book spells everyone out, the elect which always have Shalom with Abba, the righteous, who work for that same Shalom and the wicked who deny him and his ways. I don't mean literal work for the righteous, maybe accepting Yeshua and keeping the commandments is the "work" here. The righteous are those who do the will of God. The elect are not just anyone who believes but are selected for some reason. That has not been revealed. I do have prophetic dreams though. In one dream I watched a circle appear in the sky and angels poured out of it. People were screaming so loud. One angel flew to me and grabbed me and I woke up.
Keep the commandments, keep the testimony of Yeshua, seek our fathers face. There is no greater reward!
PS Son of Man is Ben Adam. Son of Adam. We are all Son of Man.
Exactly right brother here in this video they are very biased against the book of Enoch they have a lot to lose in their reputation if they appear to endorse it same with Michael Heizer a lot of times he washes his hands, I like your point about Jude and like timothy Alberino says if Jude said that Enoch prophesied and the Bible says that Christ is the spirit of prophecy therefore the spirit of Christ must be in the book of Enoch . When they say in this video that the angels said you are the son of man they are totally unfairly forcing the interpretation that Enoch is the Messiah instead of Jesus hilarious and unfair the book of Enoch is completely messianic about a Messiah in the future he gives glory to Jesus Christ there is no contradiction to any biblical doctrine they even erased one of my comments acting like Facebook fact checkers and I was not inappropriate in anyway I simply challenged them . A lot of us know that if we truly pay attention and we make our spiritual ears sensitive to what’s going on behind curtains in this world we realized that the book of Enoch makes a lot of sense with all this pseudoscience lies that Satan is engineering for the system of the antichrist.
Cherub, if you dont mind me asking, and this is in the context of knowing why you are elect, are or were you ever married?
AMEN
It was found with the dead sea scrolls.
Or way more accurately called Gnostic desert discards ...
yeah this 119 ministries dude is a false teacher. pretty foolish
he has zero original thoughts he uses other authors to discredit and describe texts in the best way he thinks/assumes. I cant take him seriously at all
@@brucedressel8873 🤣 you're a fool. and have fallen for the beast system aka Roman Central Currency through the Vatican and they couldn't do anything because the Dead Sea scrolls were hidden for a reason
all kinds of writings were also found with the biblical scriptures. This does not prove or disprove Enoch as canon.
Praise Yah!!! It is a blessing to see so many individuals in the comment section dedicated to doing their own research and not just except the regurgitated talking points of uninformed men.
God is so good I felt this in my spirit praise yeshua
It’s simple to read the book of Enoch and prove it’s not valid.
Easy question:
Who deceived Eve?
The Bible says Lucifer…book of enoch says an angel named Gadriel…
So which one do you believe?
@@HajiStaxGaming First off, the Bible doesn't say Lucifer in reference to Satan. The only place where Lucifer appears is Isaiah 14:12 and the name means Light-Bringer and in this verse refers to King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon.
And it never even says Satan in reference to the Serpent; the Serpent is merely the Serpent.
@@ZetaMagnus
Revelation 12:9
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.”
Weird….I got this right out of Revelation. Maybe you should re-read it.
Literally says, “that old serpent, called the Devil, AND Satan.”.
So….please explain to me in greater detail how the serpent is merely the serpent but not called Satan.
@@ZetaMagnusyou must read your bible more carefully brother. You missing alot
brother the book of Enoch is for us in the end days possibly sealed and give to daniel
Agreed
Agreed
Then why was it around for so long???
Agreed. It's been reserved for the last days
@@Israel-of-Yah Dead sea scolls had fragments, that doesn't sound very well preserved.
The mention that Enoch did die later Hebrews 11:13 is taken way out of context. Read Hebrews 11:5-13 again for clarification. It’s talking about the people after Enoch that died, not Enoch himself.
Good God - do I believe this book or NOT?! Why is it so confusing?!
I think the first 15 minutes of this video really explains the history aspect well. I appreciate that you guys didn't come out like a hard hammer for or against it, but rather explained the historical backdrop, the reason Jesus and the disciples were familiar with the text and why it is different than the rest of accepted Holy Scripture. I appreciate the time you put into this video. It is nice to come across some well-presented information in a world of heavily opinionated teachings. Keep it up.
Well it is quoted by Jude & without it we dont have a full account for the Gen 6 fallen watcher discrepancie or the scape goat Aza'zel as all sin was to be ascribed to him.
What say you good sir ? Have you an account for these things ?
However i would not say the book of enoch is the inspired word of Yahua
what disturbs me is that, this book existed in the bible earlier on ..so by then the book was inspired by God..but 200 years later, why say it's not inspired by God ..
cohen cyrus Exactly. It’s man made religious bs as I call it. Evidence, which is required and two witnesses agree that Enoch, Jubilees for example are in two ancient Scripture versions. Dead Sea Scrolls and Ethiopian version. We have historians who said that those two books were Scripture. Pharisees and Rome eventually rejected them because it is pro Torah and Messianic. It goes against their religion. If people want to reject Enoch, Jubilees, then to be consistent, they should reject NT. I don’t recommend that. People should be consistent and stop cherry picking and trust in false scholars that reject Scripture entirely and then accept some of Scripture and contradicting themselves. Here is something fro you to think about. Yahudah (Jude) 1:6 quotes a passage from the Testament (assumption) of Mosheh (Moses). Should we reject Jude? I think not. I don’t get why supposed defenders of Scripture want to reject parts of Scripture but not reject letters. Letters are NOT technically the Scriptures. Yes, they quote and allude to the Scriptures. See how messed up religion is and the true adherents to Scripture are attacked the most.
@@pm5206 thanks bro
They removed because they wanted to introduce NASA
51:28 Ezekiel is also called Son of Man in the Septuagint
92 times!!
And that my brothers we call blasphemous. Whenever any1 is equated to Jesus he must be stoned
Enoch was God’s first scribe. He is also 1 of 2 men to go be with God without knowing death. What more authoritative do you need than that?
That is Enoch, the question is did he write the book of Enoch?
At 9:39 he seems concerned that we may not have an accurate representation of The Book of Enock as it was in the First Century. On that basis, we would have to conclude the same about the Canon... a foolish statement, as we must trust that God has protected ALL that he has passed on to mankind. Since we know that God DID reveal things to Enoch, we can be SURE that He had protected THAT word as well. Because Enoch struggled to describe things seen in his "vision(s)", is that any different than John's visions in the book of Revelation? John only shared what he saw. We trust the Holy Spirit to reveal what God was REALLY saying. Just saying...
some chapters are missing in the book of Enoch, go scroll through it.
Interestingly, the Book of Enoch was quoted by all the apostles in the NT. If that weren't enough, Jesus quotes it without hesitation, including calling Himself the Son of Man time after time, just as Enoch speaks of Him, time after time, in his book.
Book of Ezekiel also, 92 times I think you'll find "son of man" addressed to Ezekiel.
Who are these church fathers to decide for us what is or not the inspired word of God? Only the Ruach Hakodesh (Holy Spirit) can guide us in to all truth Jn 16:13. HE will tell us what is inspired word of Yahuah, not those people who decided for us what we can or cannot read. I follow the Holy Spirit not Jews or scholars, or historians, much less 119 ministries. I will decide what is the word of Yahuah along with His guidance not theirs. Blessings and peace to all.
To deny this book as scripture would be tantamount to calling Jude (among others in the scriptures) a liar. We would in fact be calling God a liar. Jude quotes from this very book. Jude also called Enoch a prophet. He also gives him antiquity (with his lineage). Jude preached from this mans book to his congregation. Jude never would have taken the liberty to say such things if they were not true. God loved this man so much that He took Him to live with Him in heaven. This is a prime example of why John said in 2nd John 20 & 21 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. Like any men or women of today, you have been taught by the same ones that Jesus warned us about. The false teachers. The nephilim's educational system (now called the seminary). I would urge you to consult God on this matter. The holy spirit is the only way to the truth. Not man. May God bless you with His truth that you may see with both eyes, and hear with both ears.
Amen.
This book attracts to the itching ears
Not really, that’s why most of the church rejects it; which should tell you something. The majority is often wrong and misguided
Dude, this book explains Genesis and Revelations. It confirms the bible and the bible has confirmed this book in different parts.
But again couldn't this book just have copied these and tried to explain it with the theory it saw fit ? I mean read chap 70 of the book of enoch, the messiah is revealed to be him!
Dude it says enoch is the Messiah. This book is blasphemous. Should be burned. All glory to Y-shua the Messiah and He is the Eternal G-d forever!
I think that's a bit of a stretch, it is just a historical book influencing culture of the time of Christ, doesn't make it inspired scripture, but a good reference to understand the culture and thinking of the time.
Not more not less... it just is.
@@stephaniejazzy7359 not at all sister it doesn’t say that, that’s what Enoch heard it doesn’t mean the Angels were talking about him, is a miss interpretation. Enoch is absolutely messianic glorifies Jesus Christ and it doesn’t contradict any doctrine of the Bible these 119 guys they are just simply very bias, they have a lot to loose if they seem to endorse it, they are not genuinely interested in the book’s possible validity.
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Enoch III, 72:37 "37 its appearance, according as the Lord commanded. As he rises, so he sets and decreases not, and rests not, but runs day and night, and his light is sevenfold brighter than that of the moon; but as regards size they are both equal."
If the sun and moon are the same size:
If the earth is immovable:
If the earth has ends, edges, corners:
If the earth has a Firmament aka Dome above us:
If the earth is the Lord's footstool:
If the earth is still while the sun and moon over us: As you stated in your video....Joshua 10:13 "and the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.)" If the sun and moon stood still...that implies they were the ones moving...not the earth.
If the Bible speaks nothing of the earth spinning and orbiting....
The Earth is Flat. You just haven't thought about it most likely...
JEFF amen
3 Enoch is adulterated rabbinic COMMENTARY on the book of ENoch and IS NOT A true book of Enoch.....SMH.......
It also refers to ALIENS in chapter 33 and 44. Again...SMH.......
The Ethiopian Cannon has Enoch as Cannon and I believe The Cannon is like 800 years older.
Truly excellent research and teaching. I was blessed by your work in this area
This is neither research or teaching, it's assumption and slander.
What are you smoking
They researched nothing for this. Such a shame.
research and teaching? They literally gave their bias opinion with ZERO PROOF using scripture, which is required as a witness. They used NO WITNESSES to make their false accusations. since when is an opinion piece considered "research"? The fact is, not one single thing in the book of Enoch goes against the laws and commands of YHWY, or the teachings of Jesus, yet the book of Enoch does "in lock step" support these same things of YHWY and Jesus. hmmmmmm
I thank God that ancient B.C. scholars compiled the writings of Enoch and made them available in one concise document. Together, they give us a much better understanding of events that took place BEFORE the Great Flood... plus much more, of course. It is not relevant whether it is included in the "canon" or not. What is important is that we have available to us a greater understand of God's work that He has preserved for us over the centuries. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the Word of Truth." The Book of Enoch is NOT a DIFFERENT truth, it only brings to light MORE understanding of the Scriptures. I thank God for that.
Love your work, however this presentation was troublesome to me...
Did Jesus use terms found in Enoch in referring to himself? Is Enoch an end time prophet? Why did you choose the translation you sourced? Did the Essene Community become the first Christians?
You presented hypothesis and assumptions based on only one side of the narrative.
It would be extremely interesting to have you present an opposite view citing different sources
or to have a yeshiva style debate that would allow the listeners to determine their own conclusions.
Diane Essenes were pagan. It’s frustrating how people rewrite history. That’s like saying whites were the first Americans. They were not. Nowhere in Dead Sea Scrolls are Essenes mentioned. This guy is a typical false teacher who panders to Juda-ism religion and x-tian religion also. The actual “early Christians” or assembly never doubted or rejected Enoch. It was not until the 5th century CE. Rome rejected it and pseudo (protesting) Romans do also, except for some people who identify as x-titans. More people are realizing Enoch is Scripture and the historical and prophetic implications.
Pm פיטרוש מיכאל talking like that will get the comments section turned off on this video 🤫 😂😂
YAHUAH YAHUSHA Fine. Then he can lose viewers and money...He is a false teacher.
Pm פיטרוש מיכאל it wasn’t always like this, seems like there was a recent change to the crap they have been putting out lately.
Paul kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4 It does not say that and is that you? Go preach in a church and not here ok.
So, We must have to throw the scroll of Ezekiel and his prophecies out, too, then.
Rise up, oh Son of Man and Hear.
Rise Up! As the google algorithms will also bow down and confess the name of The Son of Man!
@Paul kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4
Lol this is the same video that uses Hebrews 11:13 to prove that Enoch died?
Try some reasearch dude, it's sad to say but this channel isn't the same anymore...
Keep doubting and keep looking ... Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 2 Timothy 3 7 KJV
@@brucedressel8873
No point he deleted his comment I guess there are some people who will never learn...
@@gravityfallscanada,
Wow.
I am trying to be like the Bereans here, so here is my question: @5:18 you give 2 proofs against Enoch being the author, they both have to do with TIME. The Time of Enochs life. Since he was taken to be with God while he was yet alive, and since a day and a thousand years can be the same for Our Father, how can we know what time span or spans Enoch spent with Our Father in Heaven? How can we know WHEN he returned, and if he did die, how can we determine the date of his death without those other factors?
I dont mean to be critical. But they way he coming on this...it remind me of something harold camping would say. Plus its super confusing. WITH ALL THIS INFORMATION. THERE IS NO REVELATION HERE. JESUS HELPS US. THEOLIGIZED AT BEST. LOCKED OUT. MY WHOLE SPIRIT WAS LIKE BEEP! BEEP! BEEP! Wrong Wrong Wrong. In a world full of information craving we are starving for wisdom from the Lord. Christ came in the flesh.
Why use BCE and CE unless your being politically correct and bending to academia and a world review that wanted to replace the word Jesus. AND by your argument, We can't prove Moses wrote Genesis. It by your definition, was written later by an author after Moses Death.
Hmmm. Wonder why Jude and the Holy Spirit come to polar opposite conclusions than you? Am I to believe you before the Holy Spirit.
@@ravenstone366 Interesting indeed.
@@ravenstone366 Tertullian the Latin historian makes it clear why Sadducees didn't allow Enoch and the New Testament into the Jewish canon. Because both Enoch and the New Testament were too Christ Centric. Too many people were getting saved after reading them.
@@ravenstone366 As for the Christian Canon we can all thank The Council of Laodecia and St Augustine. Laodecia rejected Revelation and Enoch from the Canon. St Augustine with Hippo and Carthrage reinstated Revelation back into the Canon. But Enoch wasn't reinserted because Augustine doubted the Genesis 6 accounts. Despite being historically affirmed Augustine's faith wasn't strong enough.
@@ravenstone366 hope that helps.
Love you in Christ.
Newfound Aventures
Hmmmm. Why would you throw away thousands of years of history written by many different authors, speaking many different languages, coming from all walks of life but all telling the same story for a book that contradicts all of that history? Perhaps you don't really know the history of our Bible, how it came about, why it came about and when or how it was transcribed, how it was treated, the different of materials used for ancient manuscripts and scrolls, how meticulous the scribes were during transcription and how they prided themselves on accuracy, who decided what books were in the Bible and which books weren't and why.
DO OVER
This isn’t the 119 Ministries that I have came to know.
I don't want to spam the comment section, but I do have another question. When Jesus reprimanded the Pharisees in Matthew chapter 22 verse 29 and 30 saying
_29 Jesus answered and said unto them, _*_Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures,_*_ nor the power of God._
_30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven._
What scriptures is Yeshua referring to? There is no where eles in the Bible explaining this, however the Book of Enoch *does* give us an explanation.
I am not dogmatically saying that the Book of Enoch is Canon because of this one oversight however this definitely leads me to believe that the words of God have been perhapes tampered with...
Gravity Falls Canada Yep. That’s Enoch 15. The Sadducee, not Pharisee attempted to debunk the resurrection by using Tobit. Yahusha rebutted by using Enoch.
@@pm5206
Ah, thank you for the correction. Do you have the chapter in the book of Tobit that talks about this?
Gravity Falls Canada Tobit 3:8.
2 ''And go, say to the watchers of the
shamayim who have sent you to
intercede for them, 'You should
intercede for men, and not men for
you.
3 'Why have you left the high, qodesh,
and eternal shamayim, and lain with
women, and defiled yourselves with
the daughters of men and taken to
yourselves wives, and done like the
children of earth, and begotten giants
as sons?
4 'And though you were qodesh,
spiritual, living the eternal hai, you
have defiled yourselves with the blood
of women, and have brought forth with
the blood of flesh, and, as the children
of men, have lusted after flesh and
blood, as those also do who die and
perish.
Jude 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints," how do you thank Jude and others got this information if they had not read the Book of Enoch? Beware what you speak against Enoch seeing he was mentioned near the beginning of the Bible and than again near the end. The bible warns against taking away from the holy scriptures. What authority gives you the right to speak against these books? Have you no fear of God? He warns all against those who attack his word and take away from or add things to it. How dare you do such a thing. Also was not the Book of Enoch found among the dead sea scrolls?
So the sons of GOD wrote in Genisis 6 and JOB. 2 are good guys Christians??. I notice you said in Genisis chapter 6 it read sons of men. Not . reads sons of GOD and daughters of men.
Shalom! Could you give me a time stamp of where we say that Genesis 6 reads sons of men please?
Just because a book isn't canon doesn't make it not written by the acclaimed writer. It just means that it's not true or honorable enough to be taken as gospel.
If the Book of Enoch has no significance, why did God tell me to bring it to people's attention over eight years ago...I had never even heard of it, until He told me about it...
It's valid, 2 Esdras 14:44, 2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Corinthians 14:33
@@alkebul_art4690 thank you so much...
Because the Holy Spirit is leading you, not the doctrines of men. Holy Spirit told me the same thing. You are in good company.
@@EarthtoSpiritWarrior Amen to that my friend!!!...
@@glendamalmstrom3717 !!HUGS!!
The wizard of OZ! Jude says that Enoch propesized. Paul definitely believed that Enoch was taken up! You act like the book is easily, matter of factly discredited then you go waaaaay out there. Why?
4:14
How does Hebrews 11:13 prove that Enoch died?
Gravity Falls Canada I was going to ask same question
It doesn’t. Because he was already transformed. Or he could have died. It seems Hebrews is contradictory and maybe it’s not Scripture. Lol. Seriously, I don’t know. Why should we have more trust in a pseudopigraphical letter that is anonymous? That’s what “scholars” say. Yet we cannot supposedly trust Enoch...
No one knows the author of Hebrews as well
Bosh Montes Yes, but they blindly believe it over Enoch, which was written by Enoch. See the hypocrisy? I trust Enoch and Hebrews. I trust Enoch because of overwhelming evidence.
@@pm5206 i believe in hebrews and enoch . . . .it is a blessing to have enoch side by side with the new testament. . . .and the old testament. we cannot dismiss evidences in qumran cave.
The justification for saying that Enoch was not written by Enoch is weak. Has it not occurred to you that the prophets referenced are giving a nod to Enoch, the same way both Jude and Jesus himself do? Or that what was was revealed by God to the other prophets would not also be reveled to Enoch? Enoch does say God reveled all to him. Furthermore, why do you suppose that mount Sinai would be unknown to Enoch? There is no record of where he traveled or what he saw in his 365 years in the region. Lastly, the second point has nothing to do with the origin of the original document, it simply dates the copy that was found.
After seeing this I'm still unsure. Not leaning towards anyone view [lean more toward scripture.] But what I'm saying is I'm open to the possibility of enoch being reliable right now due to my little understanding of Torah. I'm praying that Yah will make it clear in the days moving forward.
You are right to be wary. The book of Enoch is promoted and sold on many occult web sites. Ask yourself why. Do your own search.
Enoch did not die, nor did Elijah, Enoch and Elijah are the two end-time witnesses described in Rev 11.
That was the only reason why God took both of them alive since the two witnesses will finally die and the remain dead for three and a half days. Rev:11:9
God people will only die once since the second death is final. The second death is for the wicked people, Rev 20:14-15, There are no more resurrections for those who suffer the second death.
@Scott M Sykes The Witnesses of today are the witnesses of Charles Taze Russel and Joseph Rutherford, not God witnesses, and they are preaching a false gospel about some Jesus who is an archangel.
@Scott M Sykes God is not a respecter of persons, Act 10:34 "KJV" So then, why would God allow his son Jesus to suffer death, while on the other hand, neither Enoch and Elijah suffered death? Why were Enoch and Elijah both taken alive by God, if God didn't have a special reason in mind for them,? God does nothing without a reason, that reason is, Enoch and Elijah are to be sent back in the last days, as God two end-time witnesses... where they will finally suffer death.Rev11:8 "KJV"
@Scott M Sykes So tell me, what is the true gospel of YAHWEH? You do realize, that YAHWEH was in fact, the same God that told Moses "I am who I am" Ex3:14.
Here's the clue. Jesus said...
"No one has ever seen God, except the one and only Son who is himself God, and is closest relationship with the father has made him known. John 1:18 "KJV" So why would Jesus make such a statement since Moses and others have seen God in the Old Testament? Was Jesus telling lies?...No, Jesus wasn't lying because, in fact, Jesus was the same God of the Old Testament.
The God that Moses saw wasn't God the Father but God the Son whom the JW call Jehovah, and Jesus the archangel...Yahweh is "I am that I am" who later was born as Jesus Christ...Are you preaching that same gospel, bro, or are you preaching a different gospel?
Enoch, Elijah, and the thief on the cross all died in the same place, New Yerushaliym. They were the millenial caretakers of transforming paradise from the garden of eden, into the city of the Elect.
@@benjaminfalzon4622 yeah, Yeshua is the angel, Michael, as John and Paul testified, John 1:1, 6:38, 8:56-58, Gal.4:14.
I disagree, Moses had to have something to follow to become the man he was and before him was the book of Enoch
Angie Jefferys the book of Enoch was the first book of the Bible , for it to go into such detail about the creation and what went wrong and who brought sin and how it came to be wrongfully intertwine with mankind ! And for so many to quote scriptures from it .
Besides , why would the CREATOR , take him away if he was a lie or fairytale! I can’t see it with my eyes nor with my heart , the Book is for these times of deception!!!!
It really should be the first book of the Bible.
Angie Jefferys
Moses had God to guide him.
@@mysphthejazzien10
Enoch wasn't a lie or a fairytale. The Book of Enoch found in the Ethioptic bible is suspect because it differs from the fragments written in Aramaic that were found at Qumran. Also, the Book of Parables (1 Enoch) was not found at Qumran. The Ethioptic version is thought to have come about around the 15th century AD because of errors and writing styles.
I wasn't the biggest fan of the 3rd statement made in the conclusion. We should have a definitive answer is the Book of Enoch Canon or not and if it is not can why are you even recommending us a way of studying it? It should be refuted just like you've done with other possibly followed ideologies that you have already refuted on this channel.
I'm still not sure of The Book of Enoch but what I do know is that it doesn't contradict the Bible in any way it only adds more detail to the pre-flood events and the return of Yahuwah.
With all that said, I think what we need to figure out is what are the qualifications/requirements to be considered part of the so-called "Bible Canon", 66 or 88 books depending on what you read. I am almost 100% certain that the Catholic Church and Constantine at the Council of Nicea tampered with some of the books definitely giving us the 66 book Canon we have now.
It is so crucial to know what books are part of scripture and what are not because the Bible alone definitely is missing explanations that are found in other books but were these books man-made or removed from scripture?
*Again, what we need to find out what are the requirements to pass the "test"of being part of the Bible Canon?*
This may or may not be helpful but I have been studying and researching on this issue and I found out that the book of the watchers (Enoch 1-36) are preserved substantially in the Dead Sea Scrolls and is the only one that is credible. The Aramaic Dead Sea Scrolls of Enoch are the oldest and closest to the original, the rest are so fragmented that we can't be too sure it is the same as the other manuscripts in Greek, Ethiopic, Syriac, or Coptic versions. So you can scrap the rest. The book of the Watchers gives us all the details we can't find in the canon of Scripture. This ties with everything from Genesis 6:2-4 with the fallen angels copulating with women and having giant sons(Nephilim), to the reason why God had to press the reset button(the flood), to the return of the giants(Nephilim) after the flood, and all the way to Jude saying quoting Enoch 1:9 which is in the book of the Watchers, and even in 2Peter 2:4 which says, "For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell, delivering them in chains to be held in gloomy darkness until their judgment." This is the summary of the book of the Watchers(Enoch 1-36). Peter obviously knew that the book of Enoch(specifically the book of the Watchers), told this story in great detail which Jude echoes. The apostles and the early church fathers knew this book. But then again, I can only say that I am only convinced with the book of the Watchers, the rest you can just set aside. I hope this helps, it finally gave me peace of mind in regards with this matter.
Yes actuslly , why is t that the book was in bible earlier on ..so it was inspired by God 800 yrs ago but presently its not inspired by God..
this confuses me alot.
you should be right bro
The Ethiopian and Dead Scrolls have Enoch along with other books in Tanakh. There are 6 “canons” or more correctly, versions of Scripture. Dead Sea Scrolls, Ethiopian, Aramaic, Armenian, Roman, protesting Roman. It’s evident that Dead Sea Scrolls and Ethiopian preserves more Scripture (two witnesses). Later on, we see people have messed with Scripture and removed what they did not like (not because the Most High told them) or it went against their religion. This is why religion is a lie. The whole Scripture is true. Scripture does not mean a certain number of writings. I believe there are over 100 books.
Canon means Roman law. Canonized means approved by Roman law. I don’t trust the Roman authority (the Catholic Church) to decide what is inspired and what is not.
Instead, test for yourself everything written. If it agrees with scripture, great! If it contradicts (and let’s not forget even some the gospels contradict in small details) in DOCTRINE, then it ought be discarded. But if small details are different, let’s not throw out the baby with the bath water. Much can be learned.
I fully disagree with 119’s conclusion about Jasher and Jubilees. I find much edification in those books, and 1Enoch as well. You cannot reach a conclusion about these books if you have not read them.
Elizabeth Proverbs 28:9 Yes. But this false teacher is why Steve Moutria left. He quotes people who don’t accept Scripture. That automatically invalidates his claims. Also, if he knew Enoch and studied it, it does not contradict. Without Enoch or Jubilees , Genesis looks like a poorly written book of fairytales and looks like the Most High is bloodthirsty and a maniac. That’s what skeptics say until I tell them Enoch and Jubilees and they cannot say that because we see how the Most High got rid of evil beings that were destroying mankind. Otherwise, we be doomed. Finally, the NT heavily uses Enoch and some Jubilees and other books. To be consistent, people either reject NT or accept all the books. This has been the workings of hasatan for generations to attack the Scriptures. It’s no different than people attacking marriage, promoting abortion, etc.
The book of Enoch is one of the most referred to books in the Bible. If it's valid enough to be quoted in canon it's good enough to be in the Bible, any other answer doesn't make sense. I understand that it's easier to defend what is rather than admitting that mistakes have been made.
Might I add that the gospels themselves are believed to have been written between 66-110 ad so that your dismissal of Enoch based on when it was believed to be written would also dismiss the gospel 😬
At 4:21 he said enoch died later in hebrews 11:13...smh ...here's what hebrews 11:13 says....These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of them, and embraced them, and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. Where does this verse say that enoch died? Smh. Lies! Read the bible yourself and connect the dots...pray and Yah will guide you! There is no truth in this world....the book of Enoch is real!
I own the Paul C. Schneiders version and It doesn't say (in Enoch 71:13-14) that Enoch is the Son of Man. I always feel like so many people misquote apocryphal books. I was hoping that this man would put my mind at ease and convince me that there are only 66 valid books and everything else is a fraud (that would make life so much easier) but the more I look into it... the more I see that these books are valid. Maybe not canonical but definitely valid or at the very least credible.
@saulcruz87 - Both Enoch and the book of Jubilees tell us that man will make errors regarding the years, months, weeks and days.
Keeping an open mind to study these "controversial" books, IMHO is proof of a seeker of truth. In my own experience, it seems we are on a mission to mine out nuggets of truth, or call them pieces of the big picture puzzle. Sometimes, it only takes finding that one piece for the picture to make sense.
I firmly believe that many authentic works that contain truth have been kept from us and only the ones that serve an agenda have been allowed to be given to us and not in an incorrupt way, but certain words are changed to change the very meaning and understanding of the verse in question and since it doesn't match the context of surrounding verses, it can cause confusion which then makes the student give up. A very ingenious way for the devil to keep one from knowing the truth. I could share how this began with the Hebrew language, but it's too long to share here.
The bottom line is this:
NO ONE should let these "inconsistencies" keep them from the basic simple FAITH of Jesus Christ.
Just one addition, the bible didn't say that Enoch did die in Hebrews 11:13,It was referring to all who did die, but it clearly states that "he did not see death," the bible did point out all who died in the rest of Hebrews 11 and they named most of the previous individuals except Sara and Enoch. But we read about Sara's death in Genesis so. Just pointing that out. So I believe it's contrary to say he did not die but died afterwards.
I really appreciate your review on the books of Enoch, Jubilee and Jasher. If I had read them before listening to your testing, I would have read them in error. I would have believed them to be valid, I appreciate how you use the Canon of God's scripture as your ultimate authority. Thank you for testing The book of Enoch may God bless you. Shalom!
WRONG! WRONG! WRONG!!! TEST the books for yourself but be forewarned! You had better know your bible inside and out FIRST. THATY is the ONLY WAY to test those written works and they have MERIT. SHAME on anyone who says otherwise becaue in their railings of false works, they ERR and expose themselves as untrustworthy.
There is a simple theological explanation. In Hebrews 11 there appears to be a division of main ideas presented in verses 1-5 and verses 6-13. Notice that verse 13 states, “These all died in faith, not having received the promises.” What promises? When we look back on verses 7-11 we see that each person who is mentioned received and believed a promise, so verse 13 only refers to Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Sarah-not Enoch or Abel. Hebrews does not mention any promises concerning Enoch and Abel in verses 4-5. And the author specifically mentions Abel was dead and Enoch was not.
No matter what one's opinion is of the Book of Enoch, to lower the standard Enochic writings to the level of the book of Mormon is a gross Injustice.
If Enoch 1 is used to help a Holy Spirit filled believer bear fruit according to DIRECT Scripture, it is exceedingly valuable to those ministering to people caught up in deeper doubt, occult practice or intellectualizing. Not everyone receives the Holy Spirit the first day they begin to turn away from Babylon. We are all to grow in faith not doubt.The Father knows all. This book would not be here and now in this position as is if it was not used to teach true discernment. It is a teaching adjunct. We all know how short the time is. Ezekiel was also called "the Son of Man". Do not turn away as to be so confused that you give up distrusting everything.
Our lord Jesus says take everything to him in prayer and holy discernment I don't think there's anything wrong with any of this material we should take it all in just like the Sumerian Tablets or anything else it's not about the religion it's about our lord Jesus
Ezekiel was called “A” son of man, he was NOT called “THE” Son of Man. There’s a difference.
@@AnimalLover-yi5ik NO. He was addressed as "son of man" not "A son of man". BIG difference.
I stopped listening at 11 mins plus. My spirit is seriously fighting with these human comments discrediting the book of enoch.This book was directly referred to in the bible. So the bible made a mistake by referring to it. Please be careful.
You can not prove THIS is the book referenced in scripture. Be careful what you fall for!
I understand your difficulty but you should have listened on. He directly response to that
Maybe Enoch didn’t copy the later prophets, but God has continued to have the same revelation throughout history?
So... What was Jude talking about?
Shalom Jonathan,
We answer this question in the teaching!
Blessings and Shalom
At 27:25 the narrator says that early Christians rejected Enoch as authoritative. Not exactly. Do these people actually read church history. When the council decreed what is scripture, in the case of the OT they followed the Jewish Torah. Books of the Law, Prophets and writings. The original Catholic Bible included the non canonical since they were included in the Septuagint . Enoch would have been included except for one small problem - Arius. Arius and his followers believed that Jesus was born human and did not exist before this time. The Book of Enoch presented a problem with their views and they made a very successful program of destroying every copy of Enoch that they could find. However Enoch was included in the Ethiopic Bible. Of course God already knew this and that is why Enoch states that HIS BOOK would not be available to most Christians but will be available in the end times.
It contradicts the Bible.
Enoch was a prophet, he was given supernatural revelation from God, Noah had the Enoch book on the arc. Lies!
Enoch contradicts scriptures it says that Yeshua received his name later in life which is blasphemy
@@manwhoplayswithe3101
What!? 😂😂😂 That isn't in the book of Enoch dude...
You can't prove the book of Enoch was on the Ark. Im not disproving the book..But it was written by another author..Read it carefully, someone Its telling a story..
@@fra365
Lol same thing for the Gospel of Matthew and the book of Hebrews, you're argument is invalid...
@@gravityfallscanada I take everything with a grain of salt...I don't believe everything in the bible is inspired because it was written by different authors and manipulated throughout the ages by jews & Christians to promote their agenda and exert control. I think the bible & the book of Enoch tell a great story about our past, our future and our creator. Should i apply a critical thought process?....My answer is yes..You are entitled to your own opinion, just as i am.
I disagree with you.Hebrews 11:13 is not referring to Enoch. Also how could Enoch have knowledge about the future? He walked with The Most High PERIOD. Shaking my head🧐
Enoch was and is a great prophet, The Lord showed Enoch everything.
Let Yah be true and every man a liar!! HalleluYAH for the Ruach hakodesh and truly a baruch to see the body of who are being led in discernments comments and trusting in our Father alone!! Enoch the prophet as Jude said is just that a prophet!
“Since the day that your fathers came forth out of the land of Egypt unto this day I have even sent unto you all my servants the prophets, daily rising up early and sending them: Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers.”
Jeremiah 7:25-26 KJV
Our understandings only comes from one teacher in truth the Ruach hakodesh for no longer will a man have to teach his neighbor. Regardless if we have not been led to the same understanding at the time we love each other and pray for each other and be thy brothers keepers!! For there are always going to be different parts of one body and milk and meat, and babes and elders yet a house divided cannot stand!! Paul before the road to Damascus was in erred understanding yet one of the elect and we are all in erred understanding each day to not rely on our own wisdom for we learn as a child of Yah daily and only emuwnah “faith” is credited as righteousness!! Shalom and love fam.
why are you not using other references other than Nichelsberg where are your 2 or more witnesses
Do a lesson on the book called the apocrypha and let me know what y'all think about that book..
Quann Jones Don’t trust this fake. He attacked black people in his video about BHI. I am not defending racism of the racist BHI, but he is way off. That’s probably why Steve Moutria left this fake ministry.
@@pm5206 thank you..
@@pm5206 i watched that video yesterday. Can you explain how he attacked black people?
This is true , Proverbs 15" a soft answer turneth away Wrath" they cannot even give a soft answer for all the bad remarks against them. They just ignored everybody. Something very wrong with that picture.
@@kguymyguyfrydie9710 I just saw that video you was talking about and you right and the crazy part is that they don't know what happen out there for them to be saying anything and I was talking to one of the isrealite brother and he told me that some of the white people was calling them the n word and all type of stuff but they didn't say that on video.
Shalom ministerio 119, por favor podrían volver las enseñanzas en español. Los extrañamos.
exacto
Still have not arrived at a conclusion.
Up until now I thought 119ministries was pretty knowledgeable smh.....bad research or maybe they needed something to put up quick.
It takes time no
Very bias and they just simply don’t believe, they just analyze superficially, all Christian “leaders” have a lot to loose if they more than endorse Enoch, however in the book there is a wealth of knowledge and revelation that doesn not contradict doctrine.
so the book being prophetically consistent makes it falsely attributed? ...right
It contradicts Jesus being the Messiah/Son of Man/Savior 22:58.
So sad they are bashing the Book Of Enoch, Hosea 4:6 "My people are being destroyed because they don’t know me. Since you priests refuse to know me, I refuse to recognize you as my priests. Since you have forgotten the laws of your God, I will forget to bless your children."
Book of Enoch 5.8 When wisdom is given to the chosen they will all live, and will not again do wrong, either through forgetfulness or through pride. But those who possess wisdom will be humble. 5.9 They will not again do wrong, and they will not be judged in all the days of their life, and they will not die of wrath or anger. But they will complete the number of the days of their life. And their life will grow in peace, and the years of their joy will increase in gladness and eternal peace; all the days of their life.
The Book itself is for the Bible and Pro-God!
So I’m guessing y’all didn’t watch the whole video. Because it’s very simple. Either you believe the Bible or you don’t. If you don’t , then you will continually be deceived. Everything this man said in the documentary he backed up with scripture
The book of Enoch proves that the earth is flat and that Yahuah's Calendar from exodus 12:1 is what we should. Oh, and by the the FULL MOON is the new moon to start the count to the sabbath's and festivals. This is why those that adhere to Judaism reject the book of Enoch. May Yahuah bless you!
I believe there is much truth in the book of Enoch. But the Earth is not flat my friend, I promise this to you 🙌
@@named161 the earth is flat. Why would they fake the moonlanding? If the sun and moon are lights in the firmament, it doesnt make any sense for them to be planets. Space isnt like you think space is the place of celestial waters.
@@Mano.Mujica
Simply the earth isn't flat.
You're trying to use the Bible to push your ignorant idea...
I wonder if you've also not read in Isaiah where the scriptures says that the Lord sits in the circle of the Earth???
Simply .... The Bible isn't teaching geography.
It's passing a message of God's love , power and salvation to us in a way we will understand.
Simple.
I read this quote and immediately I understood that it was (Christ, Jesus) that spoke to Enoch so I'm going to interject the meanings that this word says to me!
"And the Head of Days (Christ, Jesus) came with Michael and Raphael and Gabriel and Phanuel and thousands and tens of thousands of angels without number. And he (Christ, Jesus), came to me and greeted me with his voice and said to me, "You, (Juan), (this is my name) (are), (Of course I question this "are" here in parenthesis), that Son of Man, (Didn't God call Jeremiah Son of Man a few times?), who was born for righteousness (In Christ Jesus aren't we all born for righteousness?), and righteousness dwells on you, (Isn't Christ indwelling in makes me the righteousness of God in Him?) and the righteousness of the Head of Days, (Christ, Jesus) will not forsake you."
(Didn't Jesus Christ say that He would never leave me or forsake me?)
Now my question is, wherein this phrase did Enoch usurp authority and became Christ other than Christ in him (Enoch). Enoch's role was to act like Christ as His representative in the role he was called to do and that's why God took him! Because Enoch did his job right!
Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater! Paul says to take the good and throw out the bad!
We think we are so smart. If they were in the dead sea scrolls, its good enough for me
A lot of things are in the dead sea scrolls, but it doesn't mean that all of them equates to Scripture. During the time of the Essenes, the Tanakh structure of the Old Testament had already been firmly established and that is the Scripture for them. Now speaking of which, the dead sea scrolls undeniably contains many writings which does express some truth to them, such as 4q246, otherwise known as the Son of God text. However even though such texts are found within the dead sea scrolls, it doesn't equate to Scriptures.
1Enoch (which contains parts of the book of Noah)The book of 1Enoch is actually 5 books in one, rediscovered in 1773 in Ethiopia. It has more and greater influence than all of the Apocryphal and Pseudepigraphal books put together on the New Testament of the bible. JUDE 14-15 Quotes 1Enoch 1:9-Plus the book of Dan. 7 :9-10,13-14 =1Enoch 14:20,41:1,46:1-5,48:3,71:8, Psalms 114:4,6,=1Enoch 51:4, Rev 21:1 =1Enoch 91:16, John 4:14=1Enoch48:1, Matt 5:5=1Enoch 5:7, John5:22=1Enoch 69:27, Matt19:29=1Enoch 40:9, Luke 6:24=1Enoch 94:8, Matt 19:28= 1Enoch 108:12, Matt 26:24=1Enoch 22:9,11, John 14:2=1Enoch 45:3, - Etc.- plus over 100 other New testament verses allude to what 1ENOCH says. Many Christians today and in the past consider it holy scripture and over 40 million Ethiopian Christians have it in their bible. The Coptic church of Alexandria has 1Enoch in their bible also. Church father Tertullian believed the book of Enoch or parts of it came off of Noahs Ark. Justin martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Irenaeus, Atanasius, Athenagoras, Commodianus, Lactantius, Methodius of Phillipi, Minucius Felix, Cyprian, Cassian, Ambrose, Nicephorus Augustine, Bishop of Lyons, Tatian,-All sanctioned the book of 1 Enoch. most called it scripture. Josephus-Philo-Eusebius also believed in its fallen angel ideas of 1Enoch. The writers of the Testament of the Twelve Patriarchs, the Epistle of Barnabas, the book of Jubilees, The Zohar, Bin Gorian Sage and different books in the dead sea scrolls, Quote or talk about the book of 1Enoch It contains Prophecies of the Son of man,
Jesus ,-final judgment,-Resurrection, messianic kingdom ,New Heaven and Earth, Fallen angels, the flood, End times, etc.
There is an old book from 1853 called Babylon and Nineveh [Austen Henry Layard] in the book they found ancient pottery
with the names of angel's found only in the book of 1Enoch- during excavation. If true making it one of the oldest books in the world-instead of the 400-200BC DATE. More copies of it are found in the dead sea scrolls then any other book except Genesis and Psalms. Showing that the Jewish people of Qumran, felt that the book of 1Enoch as important scripture. Some scholars today think Parts of the book of 1Enoch are older then are book of Genesis. The Jews rejected it in 90AD at the Counsil of Jamnia, because it for told about the Son of man coming [Jesus](church fathers Tertullian, clement of Alexandria, Irenaeus and Athenagoras all told us that the Jews rejected the book of 1Enoch because it for told the coming of Jesus.) And the early Catholic church rejected it because of its fallen angel ideas could not be dealt with. Ancient Books we have other than the bible fall into 4 group's. Intertestamental Apocryphal---Deutercanonical (apocrypha), 15 or so books depending on how you add or subtract-3&4maccabees, psalms 151 etc.[catholic-eastern orthodox -Coptic churches] these books are not on par with are 66 books of the bible, next the Pseudepigraphal [false authorship] books written from 250BC-300AD, then we have new testament apocrypha books written to late after the new testament 100AD-300AD+ they are not an eye witness accounts, few contain good orthodox ideas, most have spurious ideas and stories [some are a kind of ancient dime store novel] [ others are like ancient fictional satires such as the books of Adam and Eve, most provide little historical truth.] The most important of this group is the Odes of Solomon 80AD. Some eastern orthodox church's such as the assembly of Jerusalem considerate it scripture. and some think it inspired, but the main idea Christians , scholars and theologens all agree on is that God seemed to seal heaven up by 98-100 AD no more inspired books were written and the book of Revelations was the last. just as God in the past sealed heaven between Malachi and Mathew for a 450 year time frame between the Old and New testament. Next we have gnostic books written 140AD-300AD, Gnostic heresy [false Christian cult books] false authorship books that tried to destroy Christian orthodoxy, they wrote all kinds of garbage books with fraudulent ideas with fraudulent bible characters and stories found in Nag Hammadi Egypt in 1945(not to be confused with the Dead sea scrolls). This book also has a important Appendix of ancient theories-ideas and beliefs of early Jews and Christians. People such as Jehovah's witnesses- Seventh -day Adventists might have a hard time with it do to the idea of Hell, Shape of the cross, Two witnesses of Rev. Etc. But this book will prove that these ideas are most ancient Christian and Jewish beliefs The far most important books of the old testament times other than the bible is 1Enoch,, Jubilees and Jasher. Many scholars feel that these books should be put into a different category. Other than the apocrypha-pseudepigrapha-----category, many feel that they have true prophecy and history handed down from ancient times. 1Enoch 48:2 (R H Charles) And at that hour that Son of Man (Jesus) was named In the presence of the Lord of spirits (Holy Spirit), And his name before the Head of Days. (Father God) 1Enoch48:2(Laurence) In that hour this Son of Man (Jesus) invoked before the Lord of Spirits (holy spirit), and his name in the presence of the Ancient of Days. (Father God) Eusebius , CHRON I, III, in patrol , Graec, XIX, 115f- Noah was ordered in his day "to inscribe in writings the beginning, middle and end of everything and to bury the records in the city Sippar" In the dead sea scrolls (1 QapGen) it says that Abraham read to them the words[ book] of Enoch, then in 4Q559 it says that Abraham ----He gave to Levi the book of the Words of Enoch[to preserve and pass on to his own
descendants] The book of Jasher occurs in 2 Samuel 1:17-18 =Jasher 56, 9 then look up Joshua 10, 12-13 =Jasher 88:63-64 the book of Jasher has been virtually ignored since it was discovered, the book of Jasher holds vital clues to interpreting and understanding biblical chronology, from the flood to the exodus. A mistake made by Archbishop James Ussher, who was unfamiliar with the book of Jasher. Led to a 60 year error in placing the birth of Abraham, But this error is corrected in the chronological keys provided by the book of Jasher. And with these keys, an intriguing, and astounding story emerges. Although it is not divine Scripture, it nevertheless is a mighty historical and ancient work which relates directly to Biblical historical times and events. The historical book of Jubilees was once held in high regard by the early church fathers, but the Pharisee party of Judaism declared it and several other books (1 Enoch) to be thrown to the wind in 90AD (Council of Jamnia ) and Rome followed suit (the catholic church) Thank God that the Ethiopian church was not under the edicts of Rome and preserved the book of 1Enoch and Jubilees. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. (Matt 5:5) The elect shall possess light, joy and peace, and they shall inherit the earth.(1Enoch 5:7, 6:9) The Father Judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son (John 5:22) The principal part of the judgment was assigned to him, the Son of Man (1Enoch 69:27) shall inherit everlasting life (Matt 19:29) Those who will inherit eternal life (1Enoch 40:9) Woe unto that man through whom the Son of man is betrayed! It had been good for that man if he had not been born. (Matt 26:24) Where will the habitation of sinners be who have rejected the lord of spirits. It would have been better for them, had they never been born (1Enoch 22:9, 38:2) “woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.(Luke 6:24) Woe to you who are rich, for in your riches have you trusted: but from your riches you shall be removed. (1Enoch 94:8, 93:7) between us and you there is a great gulf fixed (Luke 16:26) by a chasm. are there souls are separated 1Enoch 22:9,11, 22:10-12 the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life. (John 4:14) all the thirsty drank, and were filled with wisdom, having their habitation with the righteous, the elect, and the holy. (1Enoch 48:1). Side note. the book of Enoch and the book of Jubilees are Holy Writ for the Ethiopian Falasha Jews also.
@Prey R what chapter and verse says Enoch is the son of man? In the book of Enoch?
@Prey R iv read the book of Enoch several times , if your referring to laMeck seeing Enoch , and calling him not a angel but a son of God like all humans are sons of God , then there is no, problem!
@Prey R and the current copy of the book of JASHER is from a much much much older copy than the AD800 one and there are two other different Books of Jasher in circulation also a total of 3 entirely different, with one original! Study and you will find this out, next the only categories modern seminarys can place anything is apocryphal., psudepigraphal, gnostic, or dutrocannical , there is a 5 th category called real! But when it comes to the game of telephone with this subject, he say she say BAD so run , is ridiculous- read them for yourself , jubilee and thr real Jasher historicaly support the Bible in a huge way!
@Prey R OK I hope you understand that the book of Enoch prophecies fortels the coming of Jesus as the Son of man , Sounds like you have never read the book of Enoch !
@Prey R read my large post!
concerning the question, did Enoch die and then go to heaven? the answer is simple and is given by Jesus in john charter 3:13 . it reads moreover , not man has Ascended into heaven, but the one who descended from heaven, the son of Man. so according to jesus Enoch was not taken to heaven. its very clear in the tect of john. and yes Enoc did die, just like moses,what God did was cut their life short and bury their body, so their enemies could not find these god fiering poeple, and use thier bodies in some Form of false worship.
I believe th extra biblical books are revealed to believers when they're ready and hidden till then.
@Paul kept the Sabbath Acts 18:4 It's actually your faith which gets you the promise of the inheritance of the land, not the book of Enoch. The word through the Holy Spirit and prayer is your teacher, not men. Men are just commentries which need to be tested, read all of Deuteronomy 13. 119 ministries have been right, but in my opinion, have been wrong many times as well.
Book of Enoch (1) is a massive support to the case of Jesus, probably the best when you start to analytically understand the Tanakh and NT, history etc. Yes it was written late and not by The Enoch. Idk, it rings some truth to me at least.
The Book of Enoch is a book of lies made up over 2400 years after the events it pretends to tell about. It reeks of lies. It does NOT lead to Jesus at all. Why do you think it does???
incorrect.
The Quran rings true to me. So by that definition it is true right?
@@justinerasmus8725 what most people don't understand:
God gave the Torah to Israel. Israel and the children of Ishmael are RELATED through Abraham. I'm a very exact person when it comes to using correct terms. For anyone who is descended form Abraham to call another descended, an antisemite, they are also speaking against themselves.
God states quite clearly that the nations can worship their other gods, but Israel, ONCE THEY ENTER INTO COVENANT with Him, are not allowed to.
So my takaway from this is:
If you feel called to practice Islam, then do so, but it serves a person well to explore everything related to God including the Bible that Christians and Jews have.
Well, I didn't realize you all opened the comment sections of your videos up for iron-sharpening-iron discussions B-) I do commend you for this, and I pray Truth Seekers can learn to discuss these things in love (these types of discussions/studies help us to "grow in love") ;-) I need to watch this vid, but I do have thoughts on the luminary chapters of Enoch as it relates to the concept to Time and/or to putting Genesis 1:14 in action. Stay tuned, and I will let you know my thoughts on your thoughts ;-) Shalom Friends B-)
Faith Child we’ll see how long the comment section stays on. Lately when too many people disagree with their teachings, they will turn off Likes and Comments.
Why is Enoch quoted in the new testament?
Shalom Mikee One,
Did you watch the teaching? It answers your question in the teaching. If you would rather read the transcript, we have it available on our website. You can find it here: www.119ministries.com/teachings/video-teachings/detail/testing-the-book-of-enoch/
We hope this helps
Blessings and Shalom
Judgement has already commenced at the cross. Enoch prophesies that the rebellious Angel's would be bound for 70 generations before they are judged. Some have observed that according to Luke's genealogy, there are 70 generations between Enoch and Yeshua. And if Enoch was the seventh generation from Adam, then Yeshua would be the 77th. If one understands the significance of the number 7 in the entire Bible, one should not dismiss such symbolic importance.