Master Piano Technique The Smart Way

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  • @ThePianoKeys
    @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +5

    In this video, I'll bust a HUGE myth and explain how to REALLY get your fingers moving effortlessly over those piano keys. Piano technique is ESSENTIAL - even if you're playing piano just for your own enjoyment. So technique exercises are really important. But what's even more important? Doing those exercises that will give you the BEST results in the SHORTEST time.
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  • @arthuracevedo4681
    @arthuracevedo4681 Місяць тому +4

    Yes, please present a series on Czerny. Your insights are so helpful. Thank you!

  • @JHouse4
    @JHouse4 Місяць тому +6

    I would attribute a significant proportion of developing my technique to Hanon, I learned so much coordination and fine rhythmic motor control that I've been able to seamless adapt to learning other instruments as well. But something that's very important - I only worked on them for a couple years to build my technique and never really touched again after I had finished all 12 keys. And also I had a great teacher when I was starting out who was heavily into Alexander Technique. To him posture and effortless motion were everything, he had gone through tendonitis and didn't want his students to have to go through the same thing. He didn't teach me much musicality, but he definitely gave me the tools to develop my own.
    I also played some Czerny later, but it never really did much for me. Hanon built up hand shapes and pattern dexterity equally in both hands, and established the neural pathways I needed to command my fingers for the rest of my life. Czerny often neglects the left hand and doesn't explore truly awkward fingering patterns, instead they feel like exam pieces - things you should be able to play to test your technique, rather than to actually build it. So much music I've played, especially as an accompanist, has featured awkward unpianistic writing, which I feel like Hanon prepared me for and I've seen many of peers struggle and cheat to get by.
    But at the end of the day, it doesn't matter as much what book you learned out of, but rather whether you did or didn't have a good teacher to develop healthy technique. And certain books like Hanon can cause a lot of damage in the wrong hands (pun intended) so I'm fully behind a cautious approach to them, or even avoiding them if you don't know how to apply their lessons safely.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Very well said! Alexander Technique is a great foundation for all movements at the piano and your teacher clearly gave you a wonderful start.

  • @mznewman7
    @mznewman7 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you. I have the book but haven’t used it yet. I’d like videos on the beginning exercises.

  • @michaelcho6039
    @michaelcho6039 Місяць тому +3

    I'm grateful for teaching to stay away from Hanon. I was debating if I should practice Hanon almost a year ago. Thank goodness that I saw other videos that I should not do Hanon exercises.
    I create my own exercises based on the exercises from my lead guitar training for 15 years.

  • @mznewman7
    @mznewman7 Місяць тому +2

    Yes. Please do a series on Czerny. Thank you

  • @MaryAnnWade
    @MaryAnnWade Місяць тому +3

    In my first year of learning piano (2022) I developed De Quervain Tendonitis in my left wrist and had to have surgery. For only 4 months, I had been studying with a teacher that gave me Hanson exercises and pieces such as Burgmuller’s Arabesque, with no mention of proper technique. That injury happened very quickly! I am so glad to have found you, Marina. The way you approach playing the piano with such practical tips has been a game changer for me. Plus, I like the way you tailored the Czerny exercise to less advanced players by changing the non legato indication to legato. That’s just one example of your teaching expertise. Thanks for another great video!

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Oh no, Mary Ann!! I'm so sorry that you went through that! It's such a shame that anyone can call themselves a piano teacher because many times, these people do more harm than good. I'm so glad that you're on the right track now!! I can see that you're really dedicated to your piano journey and I'm very happy to be a part of it. ❤❤

  • @weissrw1
    @weissrw1 Місяць тому +3

    Great explanation on the concept of gestures in music!!!

  • @samuelcarmo4830
    @samuelcarmo4830 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks you for those tips!

  • @jase10mase66
    @jase10mase66 Місяць тому +2

    These exercises are beautiful in comparison to Hanon. Hanon exercise are a little mind-numbing for me. I am happy that you reviewed the Czerny exercises. The piano teacher that I just started working with suggested these to me. This video reinforces her recommendation.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      That's wonderful! And what a cute doggie!

  • @airpac1873
    @airpac1873 Місяць тому +2

    WOW Mary, one of my most favorite pieces of music is based on a Hanon! I still enjoy playing many of them, and yes, some of us know how to play them in ALL the Keys!

  • @paschaligwenagum8612
    @paschaligwenagum8612 Місяць тому +1

    Yes, pls make a series on his exercises.
    Thanks for this video.
    U re the best❤❤

  • @67Mannheim
    @67Mannheim Місяць тому +3

    I used hanon as part of a suite of warm up's, including czerny's.

  • @terrystaggs2537
    @terrystaggs2537 Місяць тому +2

    Thanks for that I did hanon but didn't like it at all hurt my fingers I never used czerny I will use that info thanks

  • @Nate-uo7yi
    @Nate-uo7yi Місяць тому +1

    I love your lessons and tutorials, and your arrangements are beautiful, also have you heard the piece "for river" from "to the moon", its wonderful and i just wanted to share it with you, but needless to say your channel is what helped me start playing better so thanks a lot

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  27 днів тому +1

      Thank you so much! I'll have to check out that piece.

  • @amyho8307
    @amyho8307 5 днів тому

    I find Hanon good for beginners because all the first 20 chapters consist of 2 bar phrases and repeat throughout, beginners can just focus on the right techniqe without worrying note reading. Of course, the teacher has to teach relax wrist. I love Hanon.

  • @dmswan3172
    @dmswan3172 Місяць тому +2

    I sure agree with your assessment of Hanon exercises. . It been recommended to me to start working on the book of Hanon exercises by my first teacher, but with absolutely no guidance as to how to practice and benefit from them, so I worked on them in a mechanical and repetitive way.🎹

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks, Diane! I was never forced to play them - thank goodness! My teachers, for the most part, really nurtured my musical expression, and the exercises they taught me were a part of that.

  • @charlenemisuraca3473
    @charlenemisuraca3473 Місяць тому +1

    yes, I would like you to do a series on Czerny please my teacher uses Hanon and I find it tedious and boring. Thank you.

  • @monody911
    @monody911 Місяць тому +3

    I couldn't agree more. I am so grateful my first teacher in the 1960s did not give me Hannon exercises. My firends all had them and made far less progress. They're virtually worthless, and as you say, potentially harmful. Any new student I get who comes in with them is quickly disabused of them. Thanks for saying this out loud.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Thank you! I'm glad that you're not using these exercises with your students!

  • @janl5651
    @janl5651 Місяць тому +2

    A pianoteacher with an attitude 👍You make a good argument against exploring Hanon. The Czerny excercise you demonstrated looks cool, and resembles (Is) something that would actually occur in "real" music, which is the real goal to be able to play.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +1

      Hi Sir J! Thanks for your support! I'll be exploring Czerny exercises in more detail, especially in our master classes!

  • @synthplayer1563
    @synthplayer1563 Місяць тому +3

    Finally someone who clearly debunks the terrible Hanon exercises. But I'm not a big fan of the Czerny exercises either ;). They are also narrow-minded. These are exercises for a specific era and type of classical music from the time of Czerny. You don't learn modern music or other styles (jazz, contemporary music or even Chopin). In my opinion you should develop a more general musical technique (gestures) with which you can play many styles and types of music.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Great points! I actually created a book of pop/rock groove exercises that will be available in my Black Friday sale. Be sure to join my mailing list so that you get the alert: bit.ly/3Rwk3aN

  • @michael1sukenik
    @michael1sukenik Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for your videos, you are such a nice person! So would you pls allow me to bring a suggestion? -
    Anti-inflammatory drug to a person is much worse then Hanon to a student. What is a conventional doctor not allowed to tell you is that ALL you need is to change your diet:
    Less animal products, more organic plant based fresh food (veggies, fruits, beans, mushrooms, nuts).
    I wish you Best!

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Thanks so much! This was years ago and a very specific reason for using those medications. I appreciate your concern!

  • @gregrosendahl7362
    @gregrosendahl7362 Місяць тому +1

    Marina, do you have a particular key that you prefer to play in?
    For me, Eb / Cm always seem to be more comfortable compared to others. Not sure why.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +2

      Hmmm, I wouldn't say that I have keys I prefer for playing because it really is a case-by-case basis rooted in the details of each piece. I will say however, I don't like reading in C# major, mostly because it's much easier to read the same thing in Db major (especially if there are lots of accidentals).

    • @gregrosendahl7362
      @gregrosendahl7362 Місяць тому +1

      @@ThePianoKeys I get that, though I don't think I have ever come across anything in C#maj. - always Db. I'm not even sure what the key signature is for that off the top of my head. But then, you have encountered a lot more music than I have.
      Eb minor is the one that messes with my head the most.

  • @nancyallen6931
    @nancyallen6931 Місяць тому +1

    Yes please do more Czerny exercises.

  • @sylviacantumusicalideas2468
    @sylviacantumusicalideas2468 Місяць тому +1

    Please do some lessons on Crney (sp?).

  • @donstoner4725
    @donstoner4725 Місяць тому +5

    Practicing 8 to 10 hours a day??? Whoa!!! Maybe that is part of the problem. After a private voice/piano recital I attended last month I ask the accompanist if he did Hanon..Without delay he said "ABSOLUTELY YES" This man was head of a university piano department. Go figure!....IMO, this war will never end.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +1

      Yes, it was toward the end of the school year, and I had a lot of friends in the wind department who needed accompaniment for their crazy orchestral reduction piano parts. I shouldn't have done it, because those things are written for people with 15 fingers. As for the accompanist who loves Hanon, more power to him!

  • @gregrosendahl7362
    @gregrosendahl7362 Місяць тому +2

    I really dislike the fact that C maj is the 'go to' key for pretty much everything that people use to learn to play piano - almost to the point that I avoid pieces just because they are in C. Hannon included. I do spend a lot of time with Czerny, but I have learned that I have to approach his compositions very carefully so that they don't do more harm than good. He can be just diabolical sometimes.
    I also have heard from many different sources that Chopin (at one time, a student of Czerny) used B maj a lot to work with his students, since the finger groupings fit the hand naturally. C maj is pretty awkward for the hands if you think about it.

    • @syzygy2464
      @syzygy2464 Місяць тому +1

      with hanon it's assumed you'll be transposing the exercises into other keys as you develop.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Yes, but how many people actually do that?

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +1

      I love B Major, but my students always get terrified when I present them something in that key. 🤣🤣 Not sure why people are afraid of sharps...

    • @GrowYourOwnGYO
      @GrowYourOwnGYO Місяць тому

      ​@ThePianoKeys I know, it's weird for sure. The first scale I decided to learn was Db major. So, I never had that obscure fear of sharps. If anything, I used to struggle with scales that had less sharps in them. C major was one of the last I decided to learn.

    • @gregrosendahl7362
      @gregrosendahl7362 Місяць тому

      @@syzygy2464 That was my intention until I lost interest.

  • @looksee1001
    @looksee1001 Місяць тому +1

    I agree Hanon is ok but more robotic / too repetitive....but it shifts through modes and keys....and that is good.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Yes, I do like that it shifts between modes.

  • @amyho8307
    @amyho8307 5 днів тому +1

    I disagree, Hanon has its merit only if you know how to use the book wisely. All my students benefit from it without stiff wrists. There are two editions of Hanon, one by Boris Berlin it offers different rhythm, and another one by John Thompson offering different phrasing. I think they are really good for beginners. I teach my 4 or 5 years old Hanon separate hands but with very relax wrist. After finishing the whole book separate hands then I have them play both hands. My students benefit from thses exercises, their fingers gain strength but not tense nor rigid wrist as I teach them playing solid triads with wrist down and up, so their wrists are not stiff. I think Hanon is good only if you know how to use these books together with playing triads and Czerny. Especially when the students play different rhythmn, it train their ears.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  3 дні тому

      Thanks for sharing your perspective! Glad it's working for you and your students.

  • @randomguy00004
    @randomguy00004 Місяць тому +1

    I always hated Hanon...Boring, repetitive and the exercises feel all the same.
    Thanks to my teacher I discovered a collection called "Preludi Colorati" (Italian for "Coloured Preludes) by Remo Vinciguerra. Even if they're not meant to be exercises, theyre so useful for technique! Hope to see a video about them too!!🎹🎹

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for your comment - I was not familiar with the work of Remo Vinciguerra, but I will look him up!

  • @JoeLinux2000
    @JoeLinux2000 Місяць тому +1

    Hannon teaches nothing about actually playing the piano.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Yeah, I wouldn't spend my time on those exercises when there are so many better ways to level up.

  • @123SLM123
    @123SLM123 Місяць тому

    Do you always need so many words to get to your point?

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +3

      Yes.

    • @gregrosendahl7362
      @gregrosendahl7362 Місяць тому +1

      Yet you still listen..

    • @123SLM123
      @123SLM123 Місяць тому

      @gregrosendahl7362 the topic is still an interesting one, though poorly presented and based with very little substance other than "I think this other method is better."
      If this lady would have gotten to the point quicker, I would have stayed for the entire thing.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому +3

      @123SLM123 Thanks for checking out the video. This is how I present my material, and it's clearly not a good fit for you. Fortunately, there are thousands of piano tutorial channels for you to explore. May the odds be ever in your favor. 😊

  • @ScarletteFiesci
    @ScarletteFiesci Місяць тому +1

    Hi Marina. I love your videos anyway as you know and I am a huge fan of your teaching style. I get what you mean about Hanon and it took me a long, long time to see it. I was really taken aback when teachers would tell me that you shouldn't do it and there's no beneficial component or effect if you want to really play piano or authentic music! They would concentrate on the physiological side of things when I asked them why! This only went so far to explain why they were so down on Hanon.
    This was compounded by so many of my teachers using it! You have hit the nail on the head and really firmly drilled it into that piece of wood lol! No pun intended lol! There is little musicality and it is very robotic. It made me laugh when you said and it's frequently played in the key of C because guess what, I only ever played it in C lol. I was terrified to play the exercises in any other key any many years later when I realised it's just as easy and still of very little artistic benefit when you do so. This eureka moment was when I got over my fear of transposition which because of my classical training was something only Jazz musicians did lol. We proper musicians stuck to the notation - NOTTTTTTTT! No offence to all you Jazzers out there who really are proper musicians. I think all Classical and traditional teachers should take a leaf out of the Jazz teacher and teach chords, and improv from the off as well as many other things. I think I would have been a much better pianist had I had that teaching from the of! Instead I was left with a fear of failing at improv and terrified when I saw the complex jazz chords which really are as difficult as you want to make them.
    All the above being said, I still use Hanon for warm-up exercises and then I go to Czerny. I want to get the opus you have and I've forgotten the version I have - A white book with blue writing not sure how much that helps lol. It is melodious and really does improve on musicality and enhances technique just as you say.
    I have tried Pinchner, I think you spell it like that anyway. I really can't take to that as I find that just as boring as Hanon and frankly just as potentially harmful!
    I have actually hurt my wrists when I was told to practise Hanons by my teachers. I think they should all be arrested for child abuse lol. No just joking! But they should be made to atone for the error of their ways lol. They should teach to use for a warm-up exercise and then try different keys etc.
    Can't wait till I can become a member. Thank you Marina.

    • @ThePianoKeys
      @ThePianoKeys  Місяць тому

      Hi Scarelette! So glad you enjoyed the video!