I used to ignore Israel and Palestine (like a good little corporate media consumer) but the last 15 months are permanently seared into my mind. I will never forget the images of the NICU at Al Nasr Hospital. My tax dollars turned into shrapnel.
@@emilykatheryn2625 We do not share a common "humanity". What hypocrisy is there left to put on full display? Name a single claim of Western Hegemony that has survived the test of time. Claims regarding being Civilized, having Laws of War; some strange fetishism for "democracy", "progress", "Womxn", etc. - the sham that are Human Rights, the laughable notion of "international humanitarian law", multilateral statutes and conventions - everything was a lie. They fed us ideals about an International Criminal Court and an International Court of Justice only to abrogate or undermine such institutions. It will always be "Rules for Thee, Not for Me". Western Hegemony makes it necessary for the accelerated dismantling and disintegration of the aforementioned institutions and ideas setup over the last century. But you know what's truly remarkable? The lie that is a "free press", as if networks like MSNBC isn't also engaging in genocidal propaganda. No, we do not share a common Humanity - I see through you. Please stick to your Auschwitz memorial service or whatever pageantry that suits your real sympathies. Don't bother replying, I don't care.
I am very heartened and very encouraged that MS NBC is beginning to talk truthfully and honestly about Israel and Palestine. Thank you and I look forward to more. I may retune being a MS NBC viewer.
Personally I have mixed feelings. Better late than never I guess but they really betrayed us with their reporting over the past year and a half. No thay Trumo of all people has ushered in peace they want to pipe in. Its to late.
MSNBC is making a cynical rebalance where anti-trump is job #1, even if it means retuning to criticize Israel for cosmetic purposes. If you want to watch cable you take what you can get, but the year is 2025 & you can get first hand reporting direct from Gaza/Lebanon/Syria.
I'm disheartened by how this narrative of all MSM not covering this honestly, whithin the limitations of the medium, is still spun. There have been many voices all over the established mediascape calling what is happening for what it is, right from the start. This narrative made all those single-issue internet warriors stay at home or vote 3rd party, and gave us Trump 2.0 - who has been selling out the Palestinian people and cause to his buddy Netanyahu since 2016!
I saw someone who cried & will be traumatised at the sight of an animal being killed yet justifying Israel’s killing of thousands of babies, women & children… it’s impossible to understand what infected their minds
Not really: their religion is worship of a minor Canaanite deity (a tribal war and storm god and the consort of Asherah) which is the apotheosis of Rage and Wrath instincts which actually advocates G'cide along with xenophobia. Thus the Hebrew Gnostics who wrote the Gospels (dozens of them as at Nag Hammadi) denounced Y as The Fool who thought he was the Supreme. The 'Son-of-God' (a pre-Christian Mystery cult metaphor for Divine Illumination or Gnosis) was to lead them beyond Y to the Higher Light - the Divine Light of the universalist philosophies and religions - which leads beyond ego and tribe to Empathy and Love Thy Neighbour.
@Princesspeacelovetruth that is true, the first people with most responsibility to fight the satanic evils of zionism should be the people of that region of west asia, not people across the ocean
@Princesspeacelovetruthborn American Muslim not Arab. I watched daily the atrocities on my phone. I chose to educate myself more and my colleagues (who are very zionists) and many turned over to sympathize with g a z a. I took my 6 year old to vote against Kamala (voted Jill stein), I showed her the protests sure I could do more. But I know my baby girl will not be growing up like I did a 7th grader Muslim in NYC when 9/11 happened.
"My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together." ~ Desmond Tutu (1931-2021), South African anti-apartheid and human rights activist, theologian and retired Anglican bishop.
@@IhatehandlesfashyyoutubeWell, as an actual Warsaw Ghetto grandchild, I am ABSOLUTELY positive he had more of it than any member of the Zwi Migdal "Enterprise" - your direct ancestors, I assume?
@@tayaratay2423 I don't know about him being aunti sammy but sure that double standards is the MO of iSteal where the "chosen" get impunity for everything they do.
Oh sure, it was the "liberal"s alone that enabled the IDF - except that every single one of the US's largest contracts to sell arms to Israel was under a Republican administration
Most of us in the world outside the USA [even though the same is largely true here in the UK] have seen this complicity of so-called 'liberal' media and politicians for decades. Remember USS Liberty?
Yes and no. Too late for those tens or hundreds of thousands Palestinians who were k-word by "Israel". And no to the rest of them, who continue to live in concentration camps.
Yes and no. Too late for those tens or hundreds of thousands Pal-s who were k-word by Isnotreal. And no for the rest of them, who continue to live in concent. camps.
"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally." ~ Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), 16th President of the United States of America. 🇺🇸
How is that genocide? Throwing around terms like genocide in apartheid when, in this case, it does not fit at all really diminishes, true genocides, and what happen in South Africa. If it was true, apartheid, explain the 2 million Israeli Arab, Muslim citizens? Explain that they serve in the military and in their parliament? If it’s true genocide, then if you look at the numbers in a war usually 10 civilians are killed for everyone soldier in urban combat. The Palestinian authority says 40,000 people have been killed but at least half of those have to be combatants especially when the civilians come out and attack soldiers because they’ve taken all three uniforms. Lots of nicely pressed clean uniforms and those images when they’re releasing hostages. so again tragic and this is horrible but that’s a one to one civilian to combat loss and even if it was 2 to 1 it’s still summer though best numbers if you can call dad in any war that is ever happened including wars the United States started. Again shame on everybody who is diminishing the true genocides of happen in history whether that be the holocaust, Bosnia, Rwanda and Burundi, and even in the United States with indigenous communities.
Lol, they're certainly not alone. Germany was responsible for three genocides in the last century alone. Perhaps their cultural DNA accounts for their eagerness to support the current one in Palestine.
@Creaserunner 75% of buildings in Gaza have been destroyed or hit hard. 85-90% civilian casualty rate. 20,000 dead children. These three facts are sufficient to prove genocide but there is so much more. Go read South Africas report from a year ago when it was already clear that it's a genocide. The only people who still support Israel are psychopaths and Jews.
@@baharinkamarul3389they are paid by AIPAC to think differently. If only the U.S. public chose its own politicians, who were not first vetted for approval by a forgein entity. The same foreign entity who deliberate murdered Americans, on the USS Liberty.
Dear Peter please come to Ireland we feel the same way as you, I would love to hear you speak here. Ireland supports the Palestinian people to give them HOPE that there is a future for them. We do not seek the destruction of Israeli state.
@@User-f1h2b We Irish were in the Palestinian peoples place in the past, we understand how it is to be persecuted in your own land by colonizers. It is a disgrace what is happening to them.
A state founded on the basis of the rights of one group of people being more important than those of another, and relying on the occupation and subjugation has always been morally repugnant. At last the world is catching onto this.
Gaza and the West Bank are not a part of the state of Israel. They have their own government. Israeli Arabs enjoy full rights in Israel. Military control in the West Bank or what you call occupation is necessary to prevent what happened in Gaza where Israel completely withdrew and we know how that ended.
@@MetalGear1I’m a Palestinian who lives in occupied East Jerusalem and who you would call an “Israeli Arab”. We are not free, we do not have the same rights. We are subjugated and tormented. We have Americans turning up at our homes with IDF soldiers, coming to evict us from the homes we built and own, to move one of your people in. My 13 year old cousin, a girl, was imprisoned for 3 years for posting a picture of a Palestinian flag on Facebook… Is this freedom? Stop repeating the lies which were taught to you… We are not free, we are second class citizens who are beaten down if we dare to open our mouths. We live in fear to have free thoughts and express them. We are not Arab Israelites, we are Palestinians who live In occupied Palestine. How dare you say we are free with equal rights! Shame on you for perpetuating the lie of our oppressors.
@@MetalGear1 nobody anymore believe yours are even arguments. the bad faith , the shamelessness for the genocidal bloodlust that the irraelis themselves broadcasted, is the only thing you are reinforcing, it's over, the lies have been understood by the world. try humility and a training in empathetic reasoning.
@MetalGear1 Lol you call that leaving? Israel still had control over their water, electricity, their ports, their infrastructure, who goes in who goes out! Get outta here with that BS
Exactly, religion is a cult based on a few books written hundreds of years ago by men who were goat herder’s or farmers in a very small geographical area of the world. And therefore also explain the 900,000 Jewish people who lived in various Arab Muslim countries sense before Islam even started and yet they’ve all disappeared after 1948? this is horrible. It’s a tragedy, but imagine if the Palestinian people living in gods on the West Bank simply acted like the Germans and the Japanese after World War II that we would all be in a better place.
To all the Israelis, supporters and the people who stayed silent: Look at what you have done to the people of Palestine. Look at them, their cities and their homes. Look and don’t forget because the world witnessed it and we won’t forget.
Rare to find one who has an answer when asked if there is anything that their state could do that they wouldn’t be prepared to justify. True radical extremism.
@@XlebakingWe are spiritual beings, and we are answerable to ourselves for our delusions, and will have to make amends in our next life. You may have to place yourself in a situation to comprehend and grow. You can't escape your own fate. You are currently writing your future destiny. I hope it's not too painful. By the way, have you ever heard of David Saunders?
As a Palestinian, I appreciate him and you. Enough now. But we both know the vast majority of Israelis are supremacists and will never allow us to have justice and live with freedom.
My heart and soul go out to everyone touched by this horrific history of constant suffering. I admire this man for his courage and common sense. He is 100% correct, too. What a shame the far-right leadership of Israel is so blinded by hate that they are no better than their Hamas counterparts - with millions of civilians suffering for both.
Anyone who reads about the Jewish ghettos created by the Germans and their allies in 40s will see a great parallel with the plight of gazans. Those Jews were put behind tall bricked walls and barbed wire, not permitted to leave the ghetto, nothing permitted to enter either. Thousands died from diseases and malnutrition. Those ghettos lasted for 8 years at most not 75 years like gaza. You should wonder what would have happened to those Jews if they were kept in the ghettos for 75 years. Would they make their own arms, would they resist, would they fight their oppressor? I believe they would, like the Palestinians are doing and have done. When you remove that much dignity from a people you change them and make them different from you. They want what everyone else enjoys. Not to be in a concentration camp while free people, hundreds of meters away, go to a rave!
Thank yiou, Ali Velshi, for highlighting American Jewish opposition to the our lop-sided support for Israeli state terror in the name of Jewish supremacy viz. the Palestinians. And kudos to Peter Beinart for being so public in his evolution of his understanding of the Israel-Palestine conflict. May other have the same balls!
Thank you for saying this and using the correct language to define what's currently happening. Every time I try to express such sentiment, using such language, the comment gets flagged/banned.
Please explain the 2 million Arab Muslims who live in Israel and have every right as every citizen? It seems to me that they have chosen not to move to Gaza or live under Hamas or the Palestinian authority who doesn’t even hold elections? Explain genocide if that is the case? I believe the issue is Hamas the Palestinian authority, who refused to seek peace, such as the people of Germany and Japan after World War II.
@Creaserunner What?!! Gaza is a concent. camp, so nobody wants to live in such conditions. Ask yourself why people, who lived before 1948 all over the whole Palestine, now live on tiny pieces of land, surrounded by fence with barbed wire. Is it the fault of millions of innocent prisoners, or someone else's, who live outside?
The "progressive" Muslim "journalist", silent about the 47 Islamic supremacist APARTHEID nations and obsessed about the 0.3% of the land area in the middle east that Muslims do not control ??? Who woulda thunk it.
Sadly the final tally will be much much higher …probably dble. Even if the ceasefire held …which it will not … every human with a heart for peace must be brave enough to publicly say no to more suffering and death
Thank you Peter Beinart! It is about time to end the dehumanisation of Palestinians and understand the difference between Judaism and a political settler colonialism ideology.
Indeed. Good reference. Was that Galileo or am I thinking of someone else? Wasn't he burned at the stake or something or imprisoned for saying Earth goes around the Sun?
Copernicus' heliocentrism was actually inspired by his mystical belief in the Divine Light - the Inner Sun at the Centre of our own being - being mirrored in the heavens [although Aristiarchus, Aryabhatta (whose work Europeans had translated centuries before Copernicus) and others put forward heliocentric models before Copernicus]. In fact, the Hebrew Gnostics who worte the Gospels (dozens of them as at Nag Hammadi) denounced the tribal war god Yahweh (the apotheosis of Rage and Wrath instincts which advocates xenophobia and G'cide) as The Fool who thought he was the Supreme or as the Platonic demiurge who brings Evil and Sorrow. The 'Son-of-God (a pre-Christian metaphor for Divine Illumination or Gnosis) was to lead the Hebrews to a Higher Light - the Divine Light or true Godhead of universalist philosophies and religions (originally in the Vedas) which leads beyond ego and tribe to Empathy and Love Thy Neighbour.
@@GeorgeMirra-w4g Frances Yates showed that Domenico Berti had revived the myth of Giordiano Bruno being killed by the Church for his scientific belief in heliocentrism etc. In fact Bruno was a mystical astrologer and numerologist [not astronomer and mathematician] who concocted magical mandalas to transform people into religious personalities. In fact as I stated above, Heliocentrism was known since Aristiarchus or before and Europeans had translated Indian heliocentric models centuries before Copernicus' so-called Revolution. Charles Seife shows in his 'Zero' that Nicolas de Cusa and Bruno were inspired by the new mathematics and astronomy from India [modern Arithmetic, Algebra, Trigonometry and even Calculus] which laid the true foundations of Renaissance Science. Indians had known that the universe was infinite and contained many worlds - and was billions of years old whereas Greeks and Christians though the cosmos extended only to Saturn and was a few thousand years old!
We must face the fact that the two-state solution is dead. We must focus on achieving a one-state solution where Jews and Palestinians live together in peace, not apartheid. Jews and Palestinians have the right to return to the land of their people.
nothing is dead. The world is constant change, there was no Israel not long ago. Israelis would much rather have two state solution because one state solution would mean a Palestinian majority soon.
So are the 2 million Arab Muslims who live in Israel and our citizens and serve as judges and members of parliament are oppressed? Why is it that no one talks about the oppression of the Jewish people who lived in Arab Muslim countries over the last 50 years you no longer exist? Religion is horrible cult
What’s the definition of a genocide? Was it like the holocaust in Europe? Was it like what’s happening in Burundi and other countries in Africa? Was it the spreading of disease on blankets in North America and the military trying to exterminate populations of native Americans? Please explain the 2 million Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens who can vote serve in the military and in parliament?
@@Creaserunner Many genodice studies professors', many Israei, like Omer Bartov count it us such from the first days, so your opinion has no bearing. Your minimising it only speaks about your character and lack of humanity, not about what happens in Gaza.
@@Creaserunner brother, there was literally a polio outbreak in Gaza because Israel wouldn’t let in any medical care, power, clean water, and access to sanitation- what are you talking about?
@@Naveen-tx8be I appreciate that brother and yes that’s terrible but what else happened at that time? that’s not genocide. It’s tragic. Because my grandfather had polio. Was it genocide when the USA firebombed Tokyo in ww2? No it was war against a fanatical enemy who didn’t even surrender after 1 nuke; it took 2. . Why didn’t Hamas let civilians into the tunnels to protect them? How come Hamas didn’t build a great nation in 2005 instead of ripping up pipes for missies. Those Hamas uniforms were pretty darn clean and pressed - hmmm. It’s easy. Hamas changes their charter to say they will live in peace and prosper just like Germans and Japanese after ww2. Again when will us humans learn? But can’t learn when religion or political dogma dominates a culture or their leadership.
There is no justification, there NEVER CAN BE, but there is causation, there is a root from which such evil springs forth, and that is learned, ingrained and must be recognized. Israel has as much responsibility for what occurred on that terrible day as Hamas does. But Israel remains willfully blind to it's own long, decades long contribution to it.
So what would you ask the 2 million Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens? Maybe why they choose to live in Israel and participate in parliament and the society? Why don’t they all leave Israel? How come they haven’t been forced out? Why hasn’t the people in Gaza in the West Bank sued for peace like the Japanese and Germans after World War II considering that they’ve lost war after war after war after war? Now you might say that they’re being oppressed and subjugated, but they’ve been given autonomy and even appeared of time or Egypt was in charge of Gaza and yet. they didn’t even give them their autonomy or their dependence state? Why is it that Europe takes in millions of Ukrainian and Syrian refugees when Egypt Saudi Arabia the other countries don’t take in any of the innocent people in Gaza? Why is it that Hamas did not allow their civilians into the tunnels to protect them from the bombs of Israel?
Thank you MSNBC for this excellent introduction to the interview and thank you Peter for being a human and represent the true Jewish values. Palestinians want peace and want to live peacefully with Israelis. I met a group of young Israeli soldiers who stated that they never talked with a Palestinian in the occupied of the West Bank even though they were there of 3 years. It is sad that some Israelis have not learnt from their own historical experience in the Warsaw Ghetto .
Buying the book now, I always admire people who are willing to call out their own community and stand up to say "this is wrong" even if you stand alone
What took Mr. Beinart so long to speak up and write this book? This is like a German who speaks up only AFTER the concentration camps are liberated. Too little, too late.
Yes, let’s take the lessons of Germany. After World War I, they were not completely defeated, and yet they rose up again to start the second world war. But after that second war, they surrendered and agreed to peace and now they’re one of the most prosperous nations on the planet. Then let’s look at the Japanese same thing they were defeated in one war, and they now have peace and one of the most prosperous nations in the world. How many wars have the Arabs in the Middle East lost to Israel? How many wars have the Palestinians lost to his rallies? They were given autonomy and even Egypt controlled Gaza for many years and still didn’t give. yes let’s take the lessons of Germany. After World War I they were not completely defeated and yet they rose up again to start the second world war. But after that second war they surrendered and agreed to piece another one the most prosperous nations on the planet. Then let’s look at the Japanese same thing they were defeated in one war and they now have peace and war the most prosperous nations in the world. How many wars have the Arabs and the Middle East lost to Israel? How many wars have the Palestinians lost to these rallies? They were given autonomy and even Egypt controlled Gaza for many years and still didn’t give them their own state. Why is it that Egypt and Saudi Arabia? The other Muslim countries aren’t taken in gods and refugees? Why is it that I’m Austin use the tunnels for the civilian population? That’s what Ukraine is doing because they’ve built bomb shelters to protect them from the Russians? And Europe is taken in millions of Syrian and Ukrainian refugees? And finally, please explain the 2 million Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens and have full participation in their society?
How productive it is to say he should have done it earlier? You could be speculating about changing history in any other way. Be productive and praise people who are voices for good, even if late.
This is the first thing I have listened to from MSNBC since I unsubbed from them ages back. Good for this young man for speaking up publicly & publishing his book, but for them (& most of msm) too little, too late.
We need to get to a place where all Jewish opinions on this subject are disregarded, both pro Palestinian and pro Israeli. At the end of the day this is done to avoid accountability. The hero and the villain. The victim and the attacker. We buy the "this is so complex". We end up siding with their bs.
One of my favorite hosts. He tackles topics and for instance this guest is something I find interesting in how he deals with this war. I know this is tough- the difference between politics and this topic is this is something that cuts to the heart. The way to peace is a change in the people and our conscious awareness. This is important I would say religion is where belief, traditions/customs, rituals and heritage are given more emphasis. It suits the person so it's unique in experience. Between religions the way to interconnectiveness is tolerance. As you know, these things change and evolve to the point we may be less in need of religion. My personal experience is I strive more toward genuine independence in thought and in regards to religion I gravitate toward those practices that focus on that. So that, it's more relevant to me and this current time. I internally avoid religion in my meditation- those time it gets in the way because religion is not going to help with deep self-actualization. Knowing religion in regards to interaction with different cultures is important for me. How do I put someone's religion over my religion so I can truly understand that individual who lets say lives in the Middle East, or Europe, Africa ect all of which I have been throughout my life. Wow, religion has to be overlooked to get to know the person but the religion a person has is very important to understand as a background of their belief systems. Rapport! In the anonymous social media space we meet through words but when it comes to real physical interaction that would be the true human experience - people are there in front of me, you also in that backdrop hears the language, the ground where they live, the structures and buildings and unique architecture, the clothes, the look in their face, all those are much more rich in experience than the rituals but you need to be able to shake hands and find that common ground- it's really a time where interconnectiveness and I see the young people have more of this. I appreciate my elders like Trump but I wish he would act more mature because I know he has been like me seen people of all walks- mature like you! In America, unlike globally, I am careful of what I talk about to others about religion or beliefs that have nothing to do with religion or God or no God. All those are important that (religion) gets in the way and when you get to know the person then it shouldn't be in my case very important. I'm very anti-religion because of my upbringing but very fascinated by it especially the ancient beliefs
Maybe it’s religion that’s a problem. When I need to look at which countries are the most religious and those who are more secular and the secular countries are usually the most prosperous and have the most equity and equality. It’s amazing that people want to base their society on one or two books they were written hundreds of years ago by men who are farmers or goat huggers in a very small geographical area. Where is now we have millions of books on science And an entire universe rather than a couple square hundreds of miles.
Putting aside the "religious" aspects.... this man is a true humanist, a brave, courageous man,full of compassion and love for humanity. ... we need more like him. PEACE IS MADE BY TALKING TO ONES ENEMIES...NOT ONES FRIENDS !
It's very late, but I do appreciate that a mainstream media outlet is finally showing real news on this topic, which is something I thought I might never see. Appreciate both these people very much
This is a conversation that could have happened on October 8th-or even 20 or 40 or 60 years ago-with one of hundreds, if not thousands, of Jewish individuals who publicly oppose Iz ra ell's crimes against the Palestinian people. These crimes have not ceased for one moment in 77 years. Though I'm glad you're having the conversation, it shouldn't take a 15-month-long jen o side to get it on air.
How brave to write this book Peter Beinart! Thank you! I have been following you for years now and have been curious seeing your transformation. You have been debating with yourself on some editors choice columns and you came a long way!
“Many of us like to ask ourselves,what would I do if I were alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow south? Or Apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing a genocide? The answer is you’re doing it. Right now. -Aaron Bushnell
"No Palestinian voices"??? Try reading "TOMORROW WILL ANSWER: Horror & Hope in Palestine" by Gazan historian Muhammad Jihad Ismael---who also sees Jewish integrity as key to peace. Here on YT if never on MSNBC
"This is a world of compensations; and he who would be no slave, must consent to have no slave those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it. I think slavery is wrong, morally, and politically." ~ Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), 16th President of the United States of America. 🇺🇸
Looks like a great book, Peter! Thank you MSNBC for hosting this guest. We need to stop the destruction that is being advocated by our politicians so we can all live in peace. We need to all be humanitarian and care for the all humans regardless of their ethnicity or religion.
you cannot blame 07/10 without blaming first more than 78 years of occupation , colonisation , destruction , ethnic cleansing , killings of tens of thousands of palestinian civilians !!! Do you know how many 07/10 the palestinian peoples have been subjected to ??
Love this. Start by teaching both sides of the story in school. If not, we get attacked and nobody knows why. Teach the Nakba, let us get both sides. Then we get understanding and peace 🙏
"The battles that count aren't the ones for gold medals. The struggles within yourself--the invisible, 🫥 battles inside all of us--that's where it's at." ~ Jesse Owens (1913-1980), American track-and-field Olympic champion. 🥇
Sadly, religion all too often leads to a narcissistic belief in the superiority of the religious persons' views over other's worldviews. Even sadder is the reality that all too often, these delusions lead to violence. Most sad is the fact that at the end of the day, religion is just an opinion. Dying or killing over opinions is sick.
I used to ignore Israel and Palestine (like a good little corporate media consumer) but the last 15 months are permanently seared into my mind. I will never forget the images of the NICU at Al Nasr Hospital. My tax dollars turned into shrapnel.
I hope more Americans wake up, specially now that Medicaid is canceled
Thank you for not ignoring the suffering of my people ❤
Too little, too late.
@@tahbit it is never too late to return to our humanity
@@emilykatheryn2625 We do not share a common "humanity". What hypocrisy is there left to put on full display?
Name a single claim of Western Hegemony that has survived the test of time. Claims regarding being Civilized, having Laws of War; some strange fetishism for "democracy", "progress", "Womxn", etc. - the sham that are Human Rights, the laughable notion of "international humanitarian law", multilateral statutes and conventions - everything was a lie. They fed us ideals about an International Criminal Court and an International Court of Justice only to abrogate or undermine such institutions. It will always be "Rules for Thee, Not for Me". Western Hegemony makes it necessary for the accelerated dismantling and disintegration of the aforementioned institutions and ideas setup over the last century.
But you know what's truly remarkable? The lie that is a "free press", as if networks like MSNBC isn't also engaging in genocidal propaganda.
No, we do not share a common Humanity - I see through you. Please stick to your Auschwitz memorial service or whatever pageantry that suits your real sympathies. Don't bother replying, I don't care.
I am very heartened and very encouraged that MS NBC is beginning to talk truthfully and honestly about Israel and Palestine. Thank you and I look forward to more. I may retune being a MS NBC viewer.
Personally I have mixed feelings. Better late than never I guess but they really betrayed us with their reporting over the past year and a half. No thay Trumo of all people has ushered in peace they want to pipe in. Its to late.
I only because Biden is out and thru don’t have to worry about losing access since they won’t have access to Trump anyways
MSNBC is making a cynical rebalance where anti-trump is job #1, even if it means retuning to criticize Israel for cosmetic purposes. If you want to watch cable you take what you can get, but the year is 2025 & you can get first hand reporting direct from Gaza/Lebanon/Syria.
I'm disheartened by how this narrative of all MSM not covering this honestly, whithin the limitations of the medium, is still spun. There have been many voices all over the established mediascape calling what is happening for what it is, right from the start. This narrative made all those single-issue internet warriors stay at home or vote 3rd party, and gave us Trump 2.0 - who has been selling out the Palestinian people and cause to his buddy Netanyahu since 2016!
❤10000% agree
I saw someone who cried & will be traumatised at the sight of an animal being killed yet justifying Israel’s killing of thousands of babies, women & children… it’s impossible to understand what infected their minds
Decades of indoctrination. Genocide doesn't happen instantly. There are phases that leads toward it.
The Bible
Not really: their religion is worship of a minor Canaanite deity (a tribal war and storm god and the consort of Asherah) which is the apotheosis of Rage and Wrath instincts which actually advocates G'cide along with xenophobia. Thus the Hebrew Gnostics who wrote the Gospels (dozens of them as at Nag Hammadi) denounced Y as The Fool who thought he was the Supreme. The 'Son-of-God' (a pre-Christian Mystery cult metaphor for Divine Illumination or Gnosis) was to lead them beyond Y to the Higher Light - the Divine Light of the universalist philosophies and religions - which leads beyond ego and tribe to Empathy and Love Thy Neighbour.
See also Belsen survivor Israel Shahak's 'The J Religion and It's Attitude to Non-Js' on the web.
Money
What about being an american after Gaza genocide?
Most Americans don't have any control over their government.
What about being a Muslim/Arab American after the destruction of Gaza?
@Princesspeacelovetruth that is true, the first people with most responsibility to fight the satanic evils of zionism should be the people of that region of west asia, not people across the ocean
@Princesspeacelovetruthborn American Muslim not Arab. I watched daily the atrocities on my phone. I chose to educate myself more and my colleagues (who are very zionists) and many turned over to sympathize with g a z a. I took my 6 year old to vote against Kamala (voted Jill stein), I showed her the protests sure I could do more. But I know my baby girl will not be growing up like I did a 7th grader Muslim in NYC when 9/11 happened.
Respect to people like Peter 🫡🍉
Thank you to our Jewish brothers and sisters who are standing up for what is right. Love and respect from Egypt.
"My humanity is bound up in yours, for we can only be human together."
~ Desmond Tutu (1931-2021), South African anti-apartheid and human rights activist, theologian and retired Anglican bishop.
Muhammad had 0 humanity
@@IhatehandlesfashyyoutubeWell, as an actual Warsaw Ghetto grandchild, I am ABSOLUTELY positive he had more of it than any member of the Zwi Migdal "Enterprise" - your direct ancestors, I assume?
Desmond Tutu also claimed Jews are a “peculiar people” who should always be judged by double standards. He was a wildly antisemitic person.
@@tayaratay2423 where is the proof of what you said or is lying second nature for your kind ?
@@tayaratay2423
I don't know about him being aunti sammy but sure that double standards is the MO of iSteal where the "chosen" get impunity for everything they do.
Finally a mainstream argument against the destruction of Gaza.
not just gaza, all palestinian people. their past present and future.
@@sheepwshotguns42 indeed.
Finally? Many people have been saying this stuff for decades..
@@frankmarsh1159 they said "mainstream"
Only because Trump is in power - suddenly they've realised they just hóloc@usted
You are too late. The liberal media and politicians should be collectively shamed for enabling this for so long. SHAME
Oh sure, it was the "liberal"s alone that enabled the IDF - except that every single one of the US's largest contracts to sell arms to Israel was under a Republican administration
Amazing, I'm not the only one who sees this.
Most of us in the world outside the USA [even though the same is largely true here in the UK] have seen this complicity of so-called 'liberal' media and politicians for decades. Remember USS Liberty?
Yes and no. Too late for those tens or hundreds of thousands Palestinians who were k-word by "Israel". And no to the rest of them, who continue to live in concentration camps.
Yes and no. Too late for those tens or hundreds of thousands Pal-s who were k-word by Isnotreal. And no for the rest of them, who continue to live in concent. camps.
"Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally."
~ Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), 16th President of the United States of America. 🇺🇸
so who is a slave? btw, the western world gave up slavery before the Muslim world did.
The book should be “After Genocide of Gaza”!!
It's only controversial in America to speak against a genocide as genocide is deeply rooted in American culture.
True That - the USA was built on Ethnic Cleansing, G'cide and Slavery - Settler Colonialism is the true American Way.
How is that genocide? Throwing around terms like genocide in apartheid when, in this case, it does not fit at all really diminishes, true genocides, and what happen in South Africa. If it was true, apartheid, explain the 2 million Israeli Arab, Muslim citizens? Explain that they serve in the military and in their parliament? If it’s true genocide, then if you look at the numbers in a war usually 10 civilians are killed for everyone soldier in urban combat. The Palestinian authority says 40,000 people have been killed but at least half of those have to be combatants especially when the civilians come out and attack soldiers because they’ve taken all three uniforms. Lots of nicely pressed clean uniforms and those images when they’re releasing hostages. so again tragic and this is horrible but that’s a one to one civilian to combat loss and even if it was 2 to 1 it’s still summer though best numbers if you can call dad in any war that is ever happened including wars the United States started. Again shame on everybody who is diminishing the true genocides of happen in history whether that be the holocaust, Bosnia, Rwanda and Burundi, and even in the United States with indigenous communities.
Lol, they're certainly not alone. Germany was responsible for three genocides in the last century alone. Perhaps their cultural DNA accounts for their eagerness to support the current one in Palestine.
@Creaserunner 75% of buildings in Gaza have been destroyed or hit hard. 85-90% civilian casualty rate. 20,000 dead children. These three facts are sufficient to prove genocide but there is so much more. Go read South Africas report from a year ago when it was already clear that it's a genocide.
The only people who still support Israel are psychopaths and Jews.
When you consider that Native Americans Indians have been arrested recently for deportation. Being in America while Brown..😢
Good to know there is some people who have common sense !
If only our politicians have half of common sense of this author
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@@baharinkamarul3389they are paid by AIPAC to think differently. If only the U.S. public chose its own politicians, who were not first vetted for approval by a forgein entity. The same foreign entity who deliberate murdered Americans, on the USS Liberty.
Dear Peter please come to Ireland we feel the same way as you, I would love to hear you speak here.
Ireland supports the Palestinian people to give them HOPE that there is a future for them.
We do not seek the destruction of Israeli state.
May the Irish be blessed. With deepest respect, from Singapore.
@@User-f1h2b We Irish were in the Palestinian peoples place in the past, we understand how it is to be persecuted in your own land by colonizers.
It is a disgrace what is happening to them.
James Joyce in his book Ulysses stated that Ireland never had a problem with Jews.Why? Because we never let them in.
Thank you for writing this book!
A noble man with beautiful soul.
I applaud Peter Beinart!👏👏👏
A state founded on the basis of the rights of one group of people being more important than those of another, and relying on the occupation and subjugation has always been morally repugnant. At last the world is catching onto this.
Gaza and the West Bank are not a part of the state of Israel. They have their own government.
Israeli Arabs enjoy full rights in Israel.
Military control in the West Bank or what you call occupation is necessary to prevent what happened in Gaza where Israel completely withdrew and we know how that ended.
@@MetalGear1I’m a Palestinian who lives in occupied East Jerusalem and who you would call an “Israeli Arab”. We are not free, we do not have the same rights. We are subjugated and tormented. We have Americans turning up at our homes with IDF soldiers, coming to evict us from the homes we built and own, to move one of your people in. My 13 year old cousin, a girl, was imprisoned for 3 years for posting a picture of a Palestinian flag on Facebook…
Is this freedom? Stop repeating the lies which were taught to you…
We are not free, we are second class citizens who are beaten down if we dare to open our mouths. We live in fear to have free thoughts and express them. We are not Arab Israelites, we are Palestinians who live In occupied Palestine. How dare you say we are free with equal rights! Shame on you for perpetuating the lie of our oppressors.
@@MetalGear1 nobody anymore believe yours are even arguments. the bad faith , the shamelessness for the genocidal bloodlust that the irraelis themselves broadcasted, is the only thing you are reinforcing,
it's over, the lies have been understood by the world. try humility and a training in empathetic reasoning.
That’s not the truth.
@MetalGear1 Lol you call that leaving? Israel still had control over their water, electricity, their ports, their infrastructure, who goes in who goes out! Get outta here with that BS
It is beyond me how a religious group can embrace the idea that according to their faith, others are less human than them!
Exactly, religion is a cult based on a few books written hundreds of years ago by men who were goat herder’s or farmers in a very small geographical area of the world. And therefore also explain the 900,000 Jewish people who lived in various Arab Muslim countries sense before Islam even started and yet they’ve all disappeared after 1948? this is horrible. It’s a tragedy, but imagine if the Palestinian people living in gods on the West Bank simply acted like the Germans and the Japanese after World War II that we would all be in a better place.
this is how you know for sure it is not from God.
That is the entire basis of the Jewish religion
? That’s commonality across cultures, especially Arab societies: what are Dhimmi?
@@SeekinWisdom study the Jewish religion lol
Shoutout to Chris Hayes, Ayman, and Velshi for actually speaking truth to power on this grave issue
Silence from Zionist Rachel Madow.
To all the Israelis, supporters and the people who stayed silent: Look at what you have done to the people of Palestine. Look at them, their cities and their homes. Look and don’t forget because the world witnessed it and we won’t forget.
Excited for round 2 after the ceasefire falters
Rare to find one who has an answer when asked if there is anything that their state could do that they wouldn’t be prepared to justify.
True radical extremism.
They have been trained to see them as less than human...that this must happen...they have been converted by fear mongering
@@ROG009 😂😂😂😂
@@XlebakingWe are spiritual beings, and we are answerable to ourselves for our delusions, and will have to make amends in our next life. You may have to place yourself in a situation to comprehend and grow. You can't escape your own fate. You are currently writing your future destiny. I hope it's not too painful. By the way, have you ever heard of David Saunders?
As an Israeli, I thank you
Do more for the most disadvantaged of the people that neighbour you but do not have the same freedoms and protection You enjoy
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Respect to you from Lebanon. 💙
As a Palestinian, I appreciate him and you. Enough now. But we both know the vast majority of Israelis are supremacists and will never allow us to have justice and live with freedom.
Respect to you from Ireland. The war mongers need to be stopped and the Peace makers need to be heard
Someone please listen to him.
Everyone please listen!
Very beautiful soul and decent man with Empathy and compassion and honesty traits to voice his feelings and thoughts
My heart and soul go out to everyone touched by this horrific history of constant suffering. I admire this man for his courage and common sense. He is 100% correct, too. What a shame the far-right leadership of Israel is so blinded by hate that they are no better than their Hamas counterparts - with millions of civilians suffering for both.
Being a Muslim, thank you Peter Beinart ❤❤
Anyone who reads about the Jewish ghettos created by the Germans and their allies in 40s will see a great parallel with the plight of gazans. Those Jews were put behind tall bricked walls and barbed wire, not permitted to leave the ghetto, nothing permitted to enter either. Thousands died from diseases and malnutrition. Those ghettos lasted for 8 years at most not 75 years like gaza. You should wonder what would have happened to those Jews if they were kept in the ghettos for 75 years. Would they make their own arms, would they resist, would they fight their oppressor? I believe they would, like the Palestinians are doing and have done. When you remove that much dignity from a people you change them and make them different from you. They want what everyone else enjoys. Not to be in a concentration camp while free people, hundreds of meters away, go to a rave!
1000% the chastising of resistance is as disgusting as the destruction of their homes, it's disrespectful and foolhardy
Thank you. What has happened to Palestinians over the last 75 years is horrible
Thank yiou, Ali Velshi, for highlighting American Jewish opposition to the our lop-sided support for Israeli state terror in the name of Jewish supremacy viz. the Palestinians.
And kudos to Peter Beinart for being so public in his evolution of his understanding of the Israel-Palestine conflict. May other have the same balls!
Thank you for saying this and using the correct language to define what's currently happening. Every time I try to express such sentiment, using such language, the comment gets flagged/banned.
Please explain the 2 million Arab Muslims who live in Israel and have every right as every citizen? It seems to me that they have chosen not to move to Gaza or live under Hamas or the Palestinian authority who doesn’t even hold elections? Explain genocide if that is the case? I believe the issue is Hamas the Palestinian authority, who refused to seek peace, such as the people of Germany and Japan after World War II.
@TheTruthHz Yes, even before Oct 7 two thirds of my comments didn't reach the audience, but now it's much more! "Freedom of speech" :sarcasm:
@Creaserunner What?!! Gaza is a concent. camp, so nobody wants to live in such conditions. Ask yourself why people, who lived before 1948 all over the whole Palestine, now live on tiny pieces of land, surrounded by fence with barbed wire. Is it the fault of millions of innocent prisoners, or someone else's, who live outside?
The "progressive" Muslim "journalist", silent about the 47 Islamic supremacist APARTHEID nations and obsessed about the 0.3% of the land area in the middle east that Muslims do not control ??? Who woulda thunk it.
History will judge us harshly. How did 46,000 people die at our watch.
Sadly the final tally will be much much higher …probably dble. Even if the ceasefire held …which it will not … every human with a heart for peace must be brave enough to publicly say no to more suffering and death
Thank you, Peter ❤
God bless this man and all those with similar courage and conscience to look at the truth
He is absolutely right. Thank you for writing this book and explaining to people who
Don’t get it.
He's on point.
Now why wouldn't msnbc put this on their prime time 🤔 sad EVERY country around us show everything
Thank you Peter Beinart! It is about time to end the dehumanisation of Palestinians and understand the difference between Judaism and a political settler colonialism ideology.
I will be buying this book. Thank you 🙏🏿
Seriously does anyone think he isn't telling anyone something in a book they didn't know already .....but chosen to ignore
We are living in a wolrd where telling the truth to the powerful takes gut and bravery. You can loose job for that. The poor always suffer.
Wow this is MSNBC? Shocking!
Bibi knew that October 7th was coming and let it happen…
Truth tellers have always been hated. But the truth is the sun does not revolve around the earth.
Indeed. Good reference. Was that Galileo or am I thinking of someone else? Wasn't he burned at the stake or something or imprisoned for saying Earth goes around the Sun?
@GeorgeMirra-w4g something like that. Also there was a philosopher who was burnt for saying there are many sons.
Copernicus' heliocentrism was actually inspired by his mystical belief in the Divine Light - the Inner Sun at the Centre of our own being - being mirrored in the heavens [although Aristiarchus, Aryabhatta (whose work Europeans had translated centuries before Copernicus) and others put forward heliocentric models before Copernicus]. In fact, the Hebrew Gnostics who worte the Gospels (dozens of them as at Nag Hammadi) denounced the tribal war god Yahweh (the apotheosis of Rage and Wrath instincts which advocates xenophobia and G'cide) as The Fool who thought he was the Supreme or as the Platonic demiurge who brings Evil and Sorrow. The 'Son-of-God (a pre-Christian metaphor for Divine Illumination or Gnosis) was to lead the Hebrews to a Higher Light - the Divine Light or true Godhead of universalist philosophies and religions (originally in the Vedas) which leads beyond ego and tribe to Empathy and Love Thy Neighbour.
@@GeorgeMirra-w4g Frances Yates showed that Domenico Berti had revived the myth of Giordiano Bruno being killed by the Church for his scientific belief in heliocentrism etc. In fact Bruno was a mystical astrologer and numerologist [not astronomer and mathematician] who concocted magical mandalas to transform people into religious personalities. In fact as I stated above, Heliocentrism was known since Aristiarchus or before and Europeans had translated Indian heliocentric models centuries before Copernicus' so-called Revolution. Charles Seife shows in his 'Zero' that Nicolas de Cusa and Bruno were inspired by the new mathematics and astronomy from India [modern Arithmetic, Algebra, Trigonometry and even Calculus] which laid the true foundations of Renaissance Science. Indians had known that the universe was infinite and contained many worlds - and was billions of years old whereas Greeks and Christians though the cosmos extended only to Saturn and was a few thousand years old!
Beautiful soul
We must face the fact that the two-state solution is dead. We must focus on achieving a one-state solution where Jews and Palestinians live together in peace, not apartheid. Jews and Palestinians have the right to return to the land of their people.
nothing is dead. The world is constant change, there was no Israel not long ago. Israelis would much rather have two state solution because one state solution would mean a Palestinian majority soon.
Peter is an absolute legend for the way he talks about other human beings who are oppressed!!!!
So are the 2 million Arab Muslims who live in Israel and our citizens and serve as judges and members of parliament are oppressed? Why is it that no one talks about the oppression of the Jewish people who lived in Arab Muslim countries over the last 50 years you no longer exist? Religion is horrible cult
The Israelis never should have been allowed to put the Star of David on their flag.
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Israel is a colonial entity. Not a state. And its army commited a genocide
this is the starting point of any conversation
Do you mean the genocide that you and your colleagues have been excusing and providing cover for for over a year?
Ali, you are a genocide enabler.
What’s the definition of a genocide? Was it like the holocaust in Europe? Was it like what’s happening in Burundi and other countries in Africa? Was it the spreading of disease on blankets in North America and the military trying to exterminate populations of native Americans? Please explain the 2 million Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens who can vote serve in the military and in parliament?
@@CreaserunnerPlease explain the Jews who served in the 3rd Reich and were its citizens. Does this mean there wasn't Holocaust?
@@Creaserunner Many genodice studies professors', many Israei, like Omer Bartov count it us such from the first days, so your opinion has no bearing. Your minimising it only speaks about your character and lack of humanity, not about what happens in Gaza.
@@Creaserunner brother, there was literally a polio outbreak in Gaza because Israel wouldn’t let in any medical care, power, clean water, and access to sanitation- what are you talking about?
@@Naveen-tx8be I appreciate that brother and yes that’s terrible but what else happened at that time? that’s not genocide. It’s tragic. Because my grandfather had polio. Was it genocide when the USA firebombed Tokyo in ww2? No it was war against a fanatical enemy who didn’t even surrender after 1 nuke; it took 2.
. Why didn’t Hamas let civilians into the tunnels to protect them? How come Hamas didn’t build a great nation in 2005 instead of ripping up pipes for missies. Those Hamas uniforms were pretty darn clean and pressed - hmmm. It’s easy. Hamas changes their charter to say they will live in peace and prosper just like Germans and Japanese after ww2.
Again when will us humans learn? But can’t learn when religion or political dogma dominates a culture or their leadership.
There is no justification, there NEVER CAN BE, but there is causation, there is a root from which such evil springs forth, and that is learned, ingrained and must be recognized. Israel has as much responsibility for what occurred on that terrible day as Hamas does. But Israel remains willfully blind to it's own long, decades long contribution to it.
Seems like you are projecting
@@tomez8143How is the author of this thoughtful comment projecting?
Well said!
So what would you ask the 2 million Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens? Maybe why they choose to live in Israel and participate in parliament and the society? Why don’t they all leave Israel? How come they haven’t been forced out? Why hasn’t the people in Gaza in the West Bank sued for peace like the Japanese and Germans after World War II considering that they’ve lost war after war after war after war? Now you might say that they’re being oppressed and subjugated, but they’ve been given autonomy and even appeared of time or Egypt was in charge of Gaza and yet. they didn’t even give them their autonomy or their dependence state? Why is it that Europe takes in millions of Ukrainian and Syrian refugees when Egypt Saudi Arabia the other countries don’t take in any of the innocent people in Gaza? Why is it that Hamas did not allow their civilians into the tunnels to protect them from the bombs of Israel?
Thank you MSNBC for this excellent introduction to the interview and thank you Peter for being a human and represent the true Jewish values. Palestinians want peace and want to live peacefully with Israelis. I met a group of young Israeli soldiers who stated that they never talked with a Palestinian in the occupied of the West Bank even though they were there of 3 years. It is sad that some Israelis have not learnt from their own historical experience in the Warsaw Ghetto .
no one ever talks about the attacks ON GAZA in 2022
where ISRAEL targeted schools then hospitals
He is genius ❤️
Thank you, Sir!
Thank you Peter Beinart for your courage and clarity. We need more people like you.
Respect for you, Peter Beinart!
It didn't begin on Oct7, stop talking about it as if it were the one day where awful things happened.
Didn't you get the Memo? History books covering events that don't align with the current administration are dangerous and unpatriotic.
Buying the book now, I always admire people who are willing to call out their own community and stand up to say "this is wrong" even if you stand alone
Great! ❤
I don't like to read, but I'm glad this book exists.
Free Palestine from the river to the sea, from Somalia 🇸🇴.
What took Mr. Beinart so long to speak up and write this book? This is like a German who speaks up only AFTER the concentration camps are liberated. Too little, too late.
Yes, let’s take the lessons of Germany. After World War I, they were not completely defeated, and yet they rose up again to start the second world war. But after that second war, they surrendered and agreed to peace and now they’re one of the most prosperous nations on the planet. Then let’s look at the Japanese same thing they were defeated in one war, and they now have peace and one of the most prosperous nations in the world. How many wars have the Arabs in the Middle East lost to Israel? How many wars have the Palestinians lost to his rallies? They were given autonomy and even Egypt controlled Gaza for many years and still didn’t give. yes let’s take the lessons of Germany. After World War I they were not completely defeated and yet they rose up again to start the second world war. But after that second war they surrendered and agreed to piece another one the most prosperous nations on the planet. Then let’s look at the Japanese same thing they were defeated in one war and they now have peace and war the most prosperous nations in the world. How many wars have the Arabs and the Middle East lost to Israel? How many wars have the Palestinians lost to these rallies? They were given autonomy and even Egypt controlled Gaza for many years and still didn’t give them their own state. Why is it that Egypt and Saudi Arabia? The other Muslim countries aren’t taken in gods and refugees? Why is it that I’m Austin use the tunnels for the civilian population? That’s what Ukraine is doing because they’ve built bomb shelters to protect them from the Russians? And Europe is taken in millions of Syrian and Ukrainian refugees? And finally, please explain the 2 million Arab Muslims who are Israeli citizens and have full participation in their society?
How productive it is to say he should have done it earlier? You could be speculating about changing history in any other way. Be productive and praise people who are voices for good, even if late.
i think he became antizionist well before he wrote the book
I waiting Palestine,s who lost everything their voice. Thank you for writing the part of your view
This is the first thing I have listened to from MSNBC since I unsubbed from them ages back. Good for this young man for speaking up publicly & publishing his book, but for them (& most of msm) too little, too late.
Well stated, Yianni.
We need to get to a place where all Jewish opinions on this subject are disregarded, both pro Palestinian and pro Israeli. At the end of the day this is done to avoid accountability.
The hero and the villain.
The victim and the attacker.
We buy the "this is so complex". We end up siding with their bs.
One of my favorite hosts. He tackles topics and for instance this guest is something I find interesting in how he deals with this war. I know this is tough- the difference between politics and this topic is this is something that cuts to the heart. The way to peace is a change in the people and our conscious awareness. This is important
I would say religion is where belief, traditions/customs, rituals and heritage are given more emphasis. It suits the person so it's unique in experience. Between religions the way to interconnectiveness is tolerance.
As you know, these things change and evolve to the point we may be less in need of religion. My personal experience is I strive more toward genuine independence in thought and in regards to religion I gravitate toward those practices that focus on that. So that, it's more relevant to me and this current time. I internally avoid religion in my meditation- those time it gets in the way because religion is not going to help with deep self-actualization. Knowing religion in regards to interaction with different cultures is important for me. How do I put someone's religion over my religion so I can truly understand that individual who lets say lives in the Middle East, or Europe, Africa ect all of which I have been throughout my life. Wow, religion has to be overlooked to get to know the person but the religion a person has is very important to understand as a background of their belief systems. Rapport! In the anonymous social media space we meet through words but when it comes to real physical interaction that would be the true human experience - people are there in front of me, you also in that backdrop hears the language, the ground where they live, the structures and buildings and unique architecture, the clothes, the look in their face, all those are much more rich in experience than the rituals but you need to be able to shake hands and find that common ground- it's really a time where interconnectiveness and I see the young people have more of this. I appreciate my elders like Trump but I wish he would act more mature because I know he has been like me seen people of all walks- mature like you!
In America, unlike globally, I am careful of what I talk about to others about religion or beliefs that have nothing to do with religion or God or no God. All those are important that (religion) gets in the way and when you get to know the person then it shouldn't be in my case very important. I'm very anti-religion because of my upbringing but very fascinated by it especially the ancient beliefs
Maybe it’s religion that’s a problem. When I need to look at which countries are the most religious and those who are more secular and the secular countries are usually the most prosperous and have the most equity and equality. It’s amazing that people want to base their society on one or two books they were written hundreds of years ago by men who are farmers or goat huggers in a very small geographical area. Where is now we have millions of books on science And an entire universe rather than a couple square hundreds of miles.
Putting aside the "religious" aspects.... this man is a true humanist, a brave, courageous man,full of compassion and love for humanity. ... we need more like him.
PEACE IS MADE BY TALKING TO ONES ENEMIES...NOT ONES FRIENDS !
It's very late, but I do appreciate that a mainstream media outlet is finally showing real news on this topic, which is something I thought I might never see. Appreciate both these people very much
It’s not about whether you are jewsish or not it’s about being a zionist. Stop conflating the two
This is a conversation that could have happened on October 8th-or even 20 or 40 or 60 years ago-with one of hundreds, if not thousands, of Jewish individuals who publicly oppose Iz ra ell's crimes against the Palestinian people. These crimes have not ceased for one moment in 77 years. Though I'm glad you're having the conversation, it shouldn't take a 15-month-long jen o side to get it on air.
It happens every day … the problem is does it resonate with the heart and mind … the heart is the issue
How brave to write this book Peter Beinart! Thank you! I have been following you for years now and have been curious seeing your transformation. You have been debating with yourself on some editors choice columns and you came a long way!
“Many of us like to ask ourselves,what would I do if I were alive during slavery? Or the Jim Crow south? Or Apartheid? What would I do if my country was committing a genocide? The answer is you’re doing it. Right now. -Aaron Bushnell
Peter Beinart’s humanity is alive. He’s a man of integrity. He has what it takes to be an honest leader. Thank you, brother Peter!
"No Palestinian voices"??? Try reading "TOMORROW WILL ANSWER: Horror & Hope in Palestine" by Gazan historian Muhammad Jihad Ismael---who also sees Jewish integrity as key to peace. Here on YT if never on MSNBC
Thank you Peter
Palestinians are not going nowhere we will stay in Gaza forever
"This is a world of compensations; and he who would be no slave, must consent to have no slave those who deny freedom to others, deserve it not for themselves; and, under a just God, can not long retain it. I think slavery is wrong, morally, and politically."
~ Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865), 16th President of the United States of America. 🇺🇸
who is a slave?
Excellenjiece Aly. Keep speaking truth to power Aly and Peter .
"Character is power!"
~ Booker T. Washington (1856-1915), American educator, writer, orator, and advisor to U.S. presidents.
Looks like a great book, Peter! Thank you MSNBC for hosting this guest. We need to stop the destruction that is being advocated by our politicians so we can all live in peace. We need to all be humanitarian and care for the all humans regardless of their ethnicity or religion.
respect to this man. he is a hero of our times.
Thank you, MSNBC for bringing this interview. People like this gentleman are capable of helping us create a lasting peace.
Incredible interview
We need brave voices like this man
you cannot blame 07/10 without blaming first more than 78 years of occupation , colonisation , destruction , ethnic cleansing , killings of tens of thousands of palestinian civilians !!!
Do you know how many 07/10 the palestinian peoples have been subjected to ??
lol. 😂😂😂
@@zw9802Does "zw" stand for Zwi Migdal?
The occurrence of honest debates, long suppressed by oppressive interests, is revolutionary. What occurs when individuals can no longer pretend?
“Live in peace” ❤
Thank you Peter Beinart
What a great man ❤
Thank you for sharing this segment! A perspective that's been sorely lacking in mainstream US media.
It's so Sad 😢
THANK YOU PETER🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻👏🤝
I support this Man fully. 🇲🇽🇵🇸 This is far beyond what anyone can comprehend of this situation.
Love this. Start by teaching both sides of the story in school. If not, we get attacked and nobody knows why. Teach the Nakba, let us get both sides. Then we get understanding and peace 🙏
Thank you
"The battles that count aren't the ones for gold medals. The struggles within yourself--the invisible, 🫥 battles inside all of us--that's where it's at."
~ Jesse Owens (1913-1980), American track-and-field Olympic champion. 🥇
I am surprised! May God bless and protect the truth tellers.
Well said!
Sadly, religion all too often leads to a narcissistic belief in the superiority of the religious persons' views over other's worldviews. Even sadder is the reality that all too often, these delusions lead to violence. Most sad is the fact that at the end of the day, religion is just an opinion. Dying or killing over opinions is sick.
Not true.
@MrDandaman2000 history has lots of examples of my contention. What supports yours?
@@vincentrockel1149 that’s classic anti semitism, what you are saying.
Thank you Peter Beinart for speaking truth to power
MSNBC!! thank you, might start watching you again!
Respect!!! Wow and on MSNBC 😮