Epic is just taking their frustration out on players because of their own incompetence . Like banning exploiters rather than literal flying hackers😑. It's their own fault if an item is not working how it should .😐
There’s a major flaw in your argument. And it stems from entitlement. Epic doesn’t owe anyone huge prize pools. But yet every week there’s tons of money that can be won and everyone has a fair shot. That fair shot is a lot less fair with people doing stuff intentionally like this. Again they don’t owe anyone all these big prize pools, and they surely don’t owe someone trying to cheat their way to the money. I’f someone was flying around in a cash cup they’d be banned. Just like these people cheating the integrity of the game they got banned from prize pools. They’ll still be able to play the game just not for money, seems very reasonable. Just because there’s a bug in the game doesn’t mean people can’t use common sense. These people knew EXACTLY what they were doing. This generation thinks people owe them something, epic doesn’t owe these people free money from cheating the integrity of how the games suppose to be played.
@@vanzantd8850 Did I say that they should be qualified for the second round😑? Obviously they should be warned first and taken out of the competition but they shouldn't be banned directly for the first time and it's is epic's duty to fix the bugs and exploits . Tell me why wouldn't a normal person want to try these exploits . First of all as soon as this exploit was observed epic should have removed the item or should have given a statement that using this is prohibited . Players can't just be like oh! this exploit is approved by epic and this isn't . Epic should have given the statement first .
i think a one day ban would have been perfect because it would set a example but also they should take responsibility because it’s there fault it’s in the game
This is what I have concluded and I’m pretty sure it makes sense, there needs to be a distinction between exploits and glitching the game, in cases where “the exploits literally breaks the game ie healing for eternity “ you are purposely trying to glitch the game , this is similar to when epic banned people for trying to get underneath the map in tilted chapter 1. Exploits however don’t break the game it’s just making use out of an item for a result that want intended. I see how these can be seen as similar but intuitively I’m sure you can make the distinction.
@@drcorky yes because epic is the one who added it so they can't get mad plus everyone has the opportunity to do it so players have no excuse to get mad if they can do it but choose not to
@@drcorky they can't get mad at people for using it tho; the player base doesn't know if its a feature half the time and end up getting banned without warning. If its in the game, you should do it
Exploits and Glitches are essentially the exact same in definition. I understand that you're trying to make a distinction between the infinite health and wall phasing etc. But regardless there is no distinction, and in what way is it fair to make one 'unintended use of an item' more than the other. Also I'd like to think that if you phase through an entire wall in a game where building is LITERALLY THE ONLY DEFENSE TO GUNFIRE that it is very much game-breaking.
Epic is totally responsible for this and banning players just shifts the blame. The fact is that the items work how they work, if epic intends for them not to work a certain way it is on them to make that update. If you can do something in the vanilla game client then banning a player for doing that thing is crazy.
8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
@@leadattic I get that the rule exists, its just really badly done because they can't know if you did it by accident or not. It's basically the same as being banned from a store for tripping over your shoelaces 😂
@@leadattic Touché! I guess participants are responsible for reading the T&C's. Also in the T&C's is mentioned the disciplinary action and anyone "accidently" using any exploits must be crazy. 🤣
The question is how did Epic identify the participants using the exploits "accidently". Either Epic has an army of paid observers or there is a diligent army of competitors fans. Now any that probably got caught "accidently" did it more than once. "Cheaters" have a bad tendency to repeat as well they thought were on a good thing and that's how they generally get caught out. Once is a chance, twice is a coincidence, third time's a pattern.
People saying two weeks and disqualified for fncs is too harsh. These players are also cheating to take legit players oppurtunities at potentially making money. Plus if your bad enough you have to use a heal off bug to qual you probably shouldnt be worried about fncs anyway If your the type of player to abuse these kinds of things comp is better off without you
@Cubin i think the ramp exploiy specifically is very different than a bug that allows you to live forever. Its because the guzzle juice is much more gamebreaking. You cant die if done right. Other exploits like ramp phases etc. Require some execution and can still be countered and arnt completely unfair
@Cubin well yes but again i think that the reason they are getting banned from this is because it is a bug that is making your player unkilable. Clearly this is a little stronger than just a fighting mechanic
I think the reason that this is considered cheating and something like ramp phasing isn’t is essentially just because it’s free wins and doesn’t require any skill. A ramp phase, while technically an exploit, still requires good aim once you’re in the box and you’re only getting the one elimination at best, and additionally, you know that you’re getting free wins when you camp in storm using guzzle juice, it’s probably not something that happens accidentally often since most people know you can’t guzzle juice in the storm
I completely disagree. The incompetence of the game developers to leave a broken item in the game is the issue. An exploit regardless of the skill involved is still an exploit, therefore if the guzzle juice exploit was cheating, then that would mean that any exploit = cheating.
@@asura7393 8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
Epic needs to pay close attention to how these bugs occur and what not, but I mean they were abusing the bug, but I don't think that banning them for 14 weeks is a bit too long, and not being able to play in the future FNCS is unfair. Overall opinion is that they should get a warning.
Saying that epic should fix all bugs is a brainless statement,cause If u have coded anything complex you will know something's are impossible to find,and they have made a big battle royale game,it's impossible to find these bugs cause they have to check for these bugs to fix them and doing the exploit is a very out of the world thing to randomly find
i think epic is in the right, but I do agree they were a little harsh with the 2 weeks ban and the 2 fncs ban maybe a 3 or 4-day ban would be reasonable.
Banning people that use mechanics that are in the game (even though they weren't intended to be) is just bullshit. People should be allowed to use every mechanic in the game to maximize their ability/chances of winning. It's the job of the game developer to make sure these mechanics are balanced and fair. So it's all epics fault that people were able to use this item to get undeserved placements and they shouldn't try to blame these players but accept their mistake and make sure future items don't have this same effect.
I’m happy players are getting banned for exploiting the game, it’s not fun when casual players have to deal with hacking, exploiting players. I know they’re talking about tournaments, however if they’re doing these things in tournaments, they are most likely doing them in public games.
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Epic made this decision because the guzzle juice was used when their hp was already 100 which is why epic feels they can legally ban them. They are wrong. Despite the item having a firm description the guzzle juice had a functionality that was undocumented when used at 100 hp by a campfire in the storm. Using this functionality does not break TOS as there is no way for the player to know if this undocumented functionality was purposeful. Epic has not banned any players who have won money in an fncs so based on US law I don’t believe they will be financially liable if the banned players decide to sue. Epic should however step carefully as if this continues and a player with high earnings is banned for a mistake made by an epic employee which is then exploited by a high earning player epic will be liable if banning that player results in them missing earnings they would normally expect to receive. Keep an eye on this space!
as a KBM player thats played for fun and casually competitive since chapter 1 season 4....Everyone in these tournments placing are using xen or some kind of soft aim....I played the most recent solo cash cup got to 50points in like 2-3 games and then on I got LASEREEDDD every game after that like just wild spraying almost every shot hitting me...was really odd and un-enjoyable...im not saying someone cant be good and have good aim..but its pretty obvious when someone is shooting you from like 200miles away and no recoil beaming you, then they get up close and dont miss a single shot...epic needs to really look at everyone like literally top 500-1000 placing players LOOK AT THEIR GAMES and CLEAN YOUR GAME of these hackers
the community is correct as epic games as game developers shouldn't of had these glitch in the game in the first place... its not the players fault for finding a floor in the game.
the players were just using the qrei strat different and got banned while qrei tried it as well and does these healoffs for 6 months and never got hate, he actually got love and support. Anyone who is hating on the guzzle juice abusers but is supporting Qrei is straight up weird.
Didn't think it was a thing at first but I thought I should try it yesterday not knowing it was a thing but didn't because I was scared if I could get banned
@@kp-in6hp are the playes playing coders, do they make the fucking game, no they dont they play the game and just use something thats already in the game its not my faault that epic had made a mistake or added something to the game and i use it. I didnt hack it in or change what they did i just used what they already have in the game.
Imagine pros being banned for their own incompetence for failing to read terms and conditions. Priceless! 🤣 It's clearly stated in the T&C's regarding the use of exploits and the disciplinary action that may be taken.
In my opinion they should have gotten a 1 week ban and disqualified since that isn't to long but setting a example instead of not letting them play two weeks and two fncs.
They should be banned cause this situation reminds me of the infinite stim glitch in warzone and people was abusing it to win games it’s also unfair to the people that plays the game correctly.
PlayifyX deserved a lil shoutout No?? My man almost pulled of EAST and WEST 1st places in cash cups first round . ( P.S he died to a hacker in 2nd last game and died to a bug in last game . Otherwise he wouldve clutched up 1st in both regions ROUND 1 btw).
VERY VERY broken guzzle bug and shouldnt be a thing but the ban was too much, a 1-2 day ban would be fine to give them a chance to still compete but epic needs to take responsibility
1-2 day ban and missing the upcoming FNCS seems fair to me. Should not just brush over it and let them play the next FNCS as they will not realise that you can't use gamebreaking exploits like that to get a quick bag.
Ramp exploting is a little fighting trick Guzzle exploit is downright gamebreaking Same with armoured walls exploit I'd say as I'm sure that is definitely not intended
@@avian9070 i mean it should be patched ASAP and if he's only used it arenas than he shouldn't get banned, if he uses it in a tourney however we'll that's an issue
I think they did the right thing, using a ramp to exploit into someone's box isn't the same as going in storm and using a bug that infinitely heals you... Plus ramping in someone's box doesn't even give you full advantage on them and they can still fight back and kill you, while if you are infinitely healing in storm, you give your opponent no chance to even beat you. They definitely deserve the ban, they knew what they were doing.
i completely agree with epic on this ( i never thought i say this ever) - everyone knew this was a bug and they were exploiting because it literally says in the description that it is not suppossed to work in storm - if we want new items with keep the games fresh in competitve epic needs to ban these people from competitive - imo even longer than 2 weeks because people who do this in cups are most likely the same people who try do get away with other cheats such as aimbot etc
I 100% agree. I love when Idiots knowingly abuse a game mechanic, get punished, and cry about it. If they truly wanted to bring these exploits to Epic's attention they would use the "report a bug" feature.
Bro epic always need to give a warning especially when people who have don’t this be someone literally quit by they got banned so they couldn’t play fncs
it's so ironic that they care so much to ban ppl for using a glitch that was their own fault to begin with but don't care about improving their anticheat, their servers, or the weapon meta
Without previous warning, a player should never be banned for taking advantage of anything they find in game. If it is in the game, you should be allowed to use it. If epic doesn’t like that, it is their job to remove it from the game.
yeah but it takes time to patch a bug in the game and your so wrong. if there was a way to crash a full lobby and get the win would you use it in the chance of getting banned. i don't think you would have the balls too. just because a glitch is in the game DOES NOT MAKE IT OK TO ABUSE
Mate some people are idiots for doing this in a cash cup 🤣🤣 like of course your gonna get banned if your using an exploit that gives you an unfair advantage when money is involed
I feel like pulling them out of this tournament was enough and maybe a notice. Guzzle wasn't meant to be used in storm; it was designed to be unusable for heal-off. If players used medkits or whatever; that's not exploitative.
i thnk the difference is that these healing strats are going against the game like its a br there is meant to be fighting and killing and with the other exploits theyre almost all to help gain an advantage while fighting
I agree with the bans. You have to be strict when setting the tone. Yes, in the past Epic has let exploits slide in competitive. That is even more reason to crack down now. The ban was not simply for the exploit use it was the Entire strategy! Heal game is not great entertainment nor very competitive and Epic knows that. Therefor they must make an example of these players now so that it deters those in the future. I do feel bad for those just messing around with it, but they did intend to try a pretty skecth strat period.
@@bsv1155 8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
Eh I think they deserve at the least a 1 week ban, they're exploiting in a tournament, in regular arena it's whatever, but this is literally thousands of dollars on the line, which epic doesn't have to give out, and people exploiting to get points definitely deserves a ban, one thing I noticed is you always said b"exploits in the past in COMPETITIVE meaning arena, I never saw anyone exploiting in the world cup, etc, real tournaments for serious money prizes, I never saw people exploit, because epic will ban you, so your kinda covering that by saying competitive, because arena and real tournaments are not the same thing
Well the way I see it… is that if they get kinda harsh on these players who are showing game breaking exploits maybe other players will stop or not even do it. It sucks but they’re being made examples off
I personally think that epic did the right thing as in banning the players for 2 weeks and not allowing them to play in this and the next FNCS as majority of the player base of Fortnite is under 18 years of age and me being in that bracket I can relate that how a teen would take a warning or how the person would think about it , even though the players who were banned did not a massive effect as in banning them for 2 weeks and not allowing them to play in FNCSs. I think that they are trying to make a statement that they are not to be taken for granted as their have been a bit ineffective to ban the cheaters in the CCs and mass reporting is also a big issue , so to conclude; I think they are just trying to make to statement
I think it was a shit decision by epic. The players didn’t do anything, they just took advantage of the situation. How can that be “cheating”? And another point that I think Aussie didn’t touch on was that AFTER it got banned in comp you could still do the bug in pubs and not get banned. If the bug was actually cheating then it would’ve been disabled in pubs and pub kids should’ve technically got banned like Jarvis did for cheating in pubs. Basically what I’m saying is that Epic isn’t going by there own definition of cheating consistently.
They arent using any skill to win, the description of the item tells you it cant be used in storm, definitely doesnt deserve 2 weeks and 2 fncs, maybe 1-2 days and one fncs so they dont do it again
@@goblin3val yea for sure a 1-2 day ban is alright. It just irritates me that they aren’t defining what was actually cheating. Like technically, and I know I’m nitpicking, cheating is using things from outside the game to gain an advantage and the players clearly didn’t do that here.
@@bramcharan1 i mean cheating is just unfairly using something to your advantage (excluding ping, fps and input delay), i agree though, shouldnt get away with it anyhow, in a hype cup just disqualify, but cus its a cash cup should be banned for 2 days minimum and not allowed to participate in the upcoming fncs
The fortnite community has become a bunch of spoiled brats. Fortnite has put up an unbelievable amount of money in prizes, without having to go to an event. You can literally log on at your home play and make thousands upon thousands of dollars. We’ve never seen anything even close to it in any other game and we may never see anything like it. Yet people can’t use common sense? And not take these opportunities for granted. They did the right thing and people arguing otherwise are apart of that greed and entitlement. Epic doesn’t owe you anything remember that, and they surely don’t owe anyone trying to cheat their way to the money.
They were grabbing free wins with that strat, while other exploits do something small with this one you are literally milking it all the match to get a victory royale.That's far cry from just using it in a "innocent way"
Agreed daniel artok, all these people crying saying, "its the devs fault", "anyone could do it", "its epics incompetence" really need to wake up. It's a tournament with some of the best players in the world. It's meant to showcase your skills not only to win but to show the world why you deserve to win the tournament. It's called fair play and good sporstmanship, same with any sport.
I think that for the guzzle juice they should make it so you can only pop it with less than 75 hp so you can’t do the storm strat and they should unban those people because epic messed up the item they were just using the item how epic made it
Its gone to the point that whatever anyone does for their own advantage against the items actual use is an exploit. The pros are quitting cuz of this, they make a living off Fortnite
It's literally epics fault thats even in the game it's on them to fix it. You can't ban players for finding something that you allowed to be in the game
8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
i think the problem is that people use it to play cash cups and to qualify for FNCS and such, *exploits like these should be fine to use as long as your not ruining others chances or making money doing it...
epic focuses on exploiters but not mfs who are LITERALLY flying across the map with aimbot
Fr, bro I be scrolling on tiktok and youtube shorts and people be just aimbotting while streaming
@@varmt6588 yeah I saw that
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Lol I love this and yes so true man 😂
@@varmt6588 I see those too 💀 litterly every day
yes abusing the guzzle juice has a big impact on the cash cups but so do all the zen users and smgs.....still they do nothing
using smgs ain't an exploit...
These players should just be given a warning, however, Epic should definitely make a statement about what can or can not get you banned.
why should they be given a warning for something thats in the game. Epics fault and they shouldn’t be punished as a result of it
In most esports you have to specifically address the bug first and then once its acknowledged its banned from tournament play
yeah, but you are forgetting the most important detail.... this is epic games
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Epic is just taking their frustration out on players because of their own incompetence . Like banning exploiters rather than literal flying hackers😑. It's their own fault if an item is not working how it should .😐
There’s a major flaw in your argument. And it stems from entitlement. Epic doesn’t owe anyone huge prize pools. But yet every week there’s tons of money that can be won and everyone has a fair shot. That fair shot is a lot less fair with people doing stuff intentionally like this. Again they don’t owe anyone all these big prize pools, and they surely don’t owe someone trying to cheat their way to the money. I’f someone was flying around in a cash cup they’d be banned. Just like these people cheating the integrity of the game they got banned from prize pools. They’ll still be able to play the game just not for money, seems very reasonable. Just because there’s a bug in the game doesn’t mean people can’t use common sense. These people knew EXACTLY what they were doing. This generation thinks people owe them something, epic doesn’t owe these people free money from cheating the integrity of how the games suppose to be played.
@@vanzantd8850 Did I say that they should be qualified for the second round😑? Obviously they should be warned first and taken out of the competition but they shouldn't be banned directly for the first time and it's is epic's duty to fix the bugs and exploits . Tell me why wouldn't a normal person want to try these exploits . First of all as soon as this exploit was observed epic should have removed the item or should have given a statement that using this is prohibited . Players can't just be like oh! this exploit is approved by epic and this isn't . Epic should have given the statement first .
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@@vanzantd8850 u seriously need help
@@chirayutheraja4046 exploiting is against tos ik a kid who got his pink ghoul perma banned for exploiting so much and this was a minute ago
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i think a one day ban would have been perfect because it would set a example but also they should take responsibility because it’s there fault it’s in the game
lmao. What be the point of a one-day ban?
Agree a 1 day ban and removed from finals was my solution.
Epic games need to fix their bugs and get rid of cheaters
This is what I have concluded and I’m pretty sure it makes sense, there needs to be a distinction between exploits and glitching the game, in cases where “the exploits literally breaks the game ie healing for eternity “ you are purposely trying to glitch the game , this is similar to when epic banned people for trying to get underneath the map in tilted chapter 1. Exploits however don’t break the game it’s just making use out of an item for a result that want intended. I see how these can be seen as similar but intuitively I’m sure you can make the distinction.
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if its in the game, you should be allowed to do it. Enough said
@@drcorky yes because epic is the one who added it so they can't get mad
plus everyone has the opportunity to do it so players have no excuse to get mad if they can do it but choose not to
@@drcorky they can't get mad at people for using it tho; the player base doesn't know if its a feature half the time and end up getting banned without warning. If its in the game, you should do it
Exploits and Glitches are essentially the exact same in definition. I understand that you're trying to make a distinction between the infinite health and wall phasing etc. But regardless there is no distinction, and in what way is it fair to make one 'unintended use of an item' more than the other. Also I'd like to think that if you phase through an entire wall in a game where building is LITERALLY THE ONLY DEFENSE TO GUNFIRE that it is very much game-breaking.
Epic is totally responsible for this and banning players just shifts the blame. The fact is that the items work how they work, if epic intends for them not to work a certain way it is on them to make that update. If you can do something in the vanilla game client then banning a player for doing that thing is crazy.
8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
@@leadattic I get that the rule exists, its just really badly done because they can't know if you did it by accident or not. It's basically the same as being banned from a store for tripping over your shoelaces 😂
@@leadattic Touché! I guess participants are responsible for reading the T&C's. Also in the T&C's is mentioned the disciplinary action and anyone "accidently" using any exploits must be crazy. 🤣
The question is how did Epic identify the participants using the exploits "accidently". Either Epic has an army of paid observers or there is a diligent army of competitors fans. Now any that probably got caught "accidently" did it more than once. "Cheaters" have a bad tendency to repeat as well they thought were on a good thing and that's how they generally get caught out. Once is a chance, twice is a coincidence, third time's a pattern.
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People saying two weeks and disqualified for fncs is too harsh. These players are also cheating to take legit players oppurtunities at potentially making money.
Plus if your bad enough you have to use a heal off bug to qual you probably shouldnt be worried about fncs anyway
If your the type of player to abuse these kinds of things comp is better off without you
@Cubin i think the ramp exploiy specifically is very different than a bug that allows you to live forever.
Its because the guzzle juice is much more gamebreaking. You cant die if done right.
Other exploits like ramp phases etc. Require some execution and can still be countered and arnt completely unfair
@Cubin well yes but again i think that the reason they are getting banned from this is because it is a bug that is making your player unkilable. Clearly this is a little stronger than just a fighting mechanic
Yeah but what I'd ur old gen with 30fps in endgames with lots of input delay on kbm
I think the reason that this is considered cheating and something like ramp phasing isn’t is essentially just because it’s free wins and doesn’t require any skill. A ramp phase, while technically an exploit, still requires good aim once you’re in the box and you’re only getting the one elimination at best, and additionally, you know that you’re getting free wins when you camp in storm using guzzle juice, it’s probably not something that happens accidentally often since most people know you can’t guzzle juice in the storm
Another thing is they knew what they were doing was wrong but still did in a cash cup knowing it was gonna get them a free win
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@@Teefishy They didn't do it in a cash cup...
I completely disagree. The incompetence of the game developers to leave a broken item in the game is the issue. An exploit regardless of the skill involved is still an exploit, therefore if the guzzle juice exploit was cheating, then that would mean that any exploit = cheating.
@@asura7393 8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
Epic needs to pay close attention to how these bugs occur and what not, but I mean they were abusing the bug, but I don't think that banning them for 14 weeks is a bit too long, and not being able to play in the future FNCS is unfair. Overall opinion is that they should get a warning.
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another example was the drop weapons automatic reload glitch which evry pro was using during the bugha tournament at the time
Saying that epic should fix all bugs is a brainless statement,cause If u have coded anything complex you will know something's are impossible to find,and they have made a big battle royale game,it's impossible to find these bugs cause they have to check for these bugs to fix them and doing the exploit is a very out of the world thing to randomly find
Got a point
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i think epic is in the right, but I do agree they were a little harsh with the 2 weeks ban and the 2 fncs ban maybe a 3 or 4-day ban would be reasonable.
Banning people that use mechanics that are in the game (even though they weren't intended to be) is just bullshit. People should be allowed to use every mechanic in the game to maximize their ability/chances of winning. It's the job of the game developer to make sure these mechanics are balanced and fair. So it's all epics fault that people were able to use this item to get undeserved placements and they shouldn't try to blame these players but accept their mistake and make sure future items don't have this same effect.
I’m happy players are getting banned for exploiting the game, it’s not fun when casual players have to deal with hacking, exploiting players. I know they’re talking about tournaments, however if they’re doing these things in tournaments, they are most likely doing them in public games.
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When you enter the tournament you agree to the terms and conditions.
Enough said
7:25 i Think they should get a warning or a disqualify from the tourney, not a 2 week ban and not being able to qual/play FNCS.
The guys who used the guzzle juice glitch got punished harsher than people who cheated in the world cup qualifiers? Epic confuses me
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Epic made this decision because the guzzle juice was used when their hp was already 100 which is why epic feels they can legally ban them. They are wrong. Despite the item having a firm description the guzzle juice had a functionality that was undocumented when used at 100 hp by a campfire in the storm. Using this functionality does not break TOS as there is no way for the player to know if this undocumented functionality was purposeful. Epic has not banned any players who have won money in an fncs so based on US law I don’t believe they will be financially liable if the banned players decide to sue. Epic should however step carefully as if this continues and a player with high earnings is banned for a mistake made by an epic employee which is then exploited by a high earning player epic will be liable if banning that player results in them missing earnings they would normally expect to receive. Keep an eye on this space!
You used a bunch of big words to make yourself seem smart but what your explaining is extremely simple
I believe there could have been a day ban and not play the finals but they went to far with the ban
If this happened to me I would be annoyed
as a KBM player thats played for fun and casually competitive since chapter 1 season 4....Everyone in these tournments placing are using xen or some kind of soft aim....I played the most recent solo cash cup got to 50points in like 2-3 games and then on I got LASEREEDDD every game after that like just wild spraying almost every shot hitting me...was really odd and un-enjoyable...im not saying someone cant be good and have good aim..but its pretty obvious when someone is shooting you from like 200miles away and no recoil beaming you, then they get up close and dont miss a single shot...epic needs to really look at everyone like literally top 500-1000 placing players LOOK AT THEIR GAMES and CLEAN YOUR GAME of these hackers
the community is correct as epic games as game developers shouldn't of had these glitch in the game in the first place... its not the players fault for finding a floor in the game.
the players were just using the qrei strat different and got banned while qrei tried it as well and does these healoffs for 6 months and never got hate, he actually got love and support. Anyone who is hating on the guzzle juice abusers but is supporting Qrei is straight up weird.
Exactly qrei was abusing the same strat for cc and even fncs and everybody loved him the double standard makes no sense
Aussie maybe you could add in a little part in the vid just showing the placements for contender cups and showing the underdogs some love!
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personally, i think that finding exploits is smart, epic cant ban people because of their own issues, free my guzzle juice brothers
Spiderman onto pad and shoot while in air is a cool glitch for getting people off height lol
This is epics job to fix the bugs and I’m so mad for those players who got banned for 2 weeks 😞 and on another side I’m so happy for muz 😊
agree
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is it just me or did anyone else try the spiderman fishing thing lol haha
Didn't think it was a thing at first but I thought I should try it yesterday not knowing it was a thing but didn't because I was scared if I could get banned
Epic banning people for their own incompetence? Priceless coming from a company who’s running tournaments with game breaking bugs
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100% you have never coded in your life.
@@kp-in6hp has nothing to do with coding, just with forgetting to put it in.
@@kp-in6hp are the playes playing coders, do they make the fucking game, no they dont they play the game and just use something thats already in the game its not my faault that epic had made a mistake or added something to the game and i use it. I didnt hack it in or change what they did i just used what they already have in the game.
Imagine pros being banned for their own incompetence for failing to read terms and conditions. Priceless! 🤣 It's clearly stated in the T&C's regarding the use of exploits and the disciplinary action that may be taken.
Epic should fix there game and stop putting the blame on the players…
In my opinion they should have gotten a 1 week ban and disqualified since that isn't to long but setting a example instead of not letting them play two weeks and two fncs.
They should be banned cause this situation reminds me of the infinite stim glitch in warzone and people was abusing it to win games it’s also unfair to the people that plays the game correctly.
PlayifyX deserved a lil shoutout No?? My man almost pulled of EAST and WEST 1st places in cash cups first round . ( P.S he died to a hacker in 2nd last game and died to a bug in last game . Otherwise he wouldve clutched up 1st in both regions ROUND 1 btw).
VERY VERY broken guzzle bug and shouldnt be a thing but the ban was too much, a 1-2 day ban would be fine to give them a chance to still compete but epic needs to take responsibility
1-2 day ban and missing the upcoming FNCS seems fair to me. Should not just brush over it and let them play the next FNCS as they will not realise that you can't use gamebreaking exploits like that to get a quick bag.
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This batman bugha kid Is popping off
Ramp exploting is a little fighting trick
Guzzle exploit is downright gamebreaking
Same with armoured walls exploit I'd say as I'm sure that is definitely not intended
So ur saying Martoz should get banned
Plus the ramp exploit is also not supposed to push you into someone’s box
@@avian9070 i mean it should be patched ASAP and if he's only used it arenas than he shouldn't get banned, if he uses it in a tourney however we'll that's an issue
I think they did the right thing, using a ramp to exploit into someone's box isn't the same as going in storm and using a bug that infinitely heals you... Plus ramping in someone's box doesn't even give you full advantage on them and they can still fight back and kill you, while if you are infinitely healing in storm, you give your opponent no chance to even beat you.
They definitely deserve the ban, they knew what they were doing.
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i completely agree with epic on this ( i never thought i say this ever) - everyone knew this was a bug and they were exploiting because it literally says in the description that it is not suppossed to work in storm - if we want new items with keep the games fresh in competitve epic needs to ban these people from competitive - imo even longer than 2 weeks because people who do this in cups are most likely the same people who try do get away with other cheats such as aimbot etc
I 100% agree. I love when Idiots knowingly abuse a game mechanic, get punished, and cry about it. If they truly wanted to bring these exploits to Epic's attention they would use the "report a bug" feature.
Bro epic always need to give a warning especially when people who have don’t this be someone literally quit by they got banned so they couldn’t play fncs
who have done this bc*
yes aussie love the vids
it's so ironic that they care so much to ban ppl for using a glitch that was their own fault to begin with but don't care about improving their anticheat, their servers, or the weapon meta
Fr like what is epic doing
My console friend SweLucas placed 140 in NAE CC, and he’s EU so that’s really good for being a console player in my eyes.
Without previous warning, a player should never be banned for taking advantage of anything they find in game. If it is in the game, you should be allowed to use it. If epic doesn’t like that, it is their job to remove it from the game.
yeah but it takes time to patch a bug in the game and your so wrong. if there was a way to crash a full lobby and get the win would you use it in the chance of getting banned. i don't think you would have the balls too. just because a glitch is in the game DOES NOT MAKE IT OK TO ABUSE
Mate some people are idiots for doing this in a cash cup 🤣🤣 like of course your gonna get banned if your using an exploit that gives you an unfair advantage when money is involed
Pretty cool to see you use default skins new video as background gameplay
Can someone please tell me who the background footage is, i cant find him anywhere.
I feel like pulling them out of this tournament was enough and maybe a notice.
Guzzle wasn't meant to be used in storm; it was designed to be unusable for heal-off.
If players used medkits or whatever; that's not exploitative.
i thnk the difference is that these healing strats are going against the game like its a br there is meant to be fighting and killing and with the other exploits theyre almost all to help gain an advantage while fighting
Epic was wrong
Let’s go Muz is so good!
Nope
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I agree with the bans. You have to be strict when setting the tone. Yes, in the past Epic has let exploits slide in competitive. That is even more reason to crack down now. The ban was not simply for the exploit use it was the Entire strategy! Heal game is not great entertainment nor very competitive and Epic knows that. Therefor they must make an example of these players now so that it deters those in the future. I do feel bad for those just messing around with it, but they did intend to try a pretty skecth strat period.
why they didnt hack they just did something thats already in the game.
@@bsv1155 8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
Wasn’t okis on keyboard and mouse before? I swear wasn’t he the guy who got popular for the insane clip
epic shouldn't ban them like you said its their responsibility as game devs to fix bugs.
8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
Epic went way to far
Thats not cheating, that is smart. These guys should get a medal.
what about the iron trap exploit martoz do?
Eh I think they deserve at the least a 1 week ban, they're exploiting in a tournament, in regular arena it's whatever, but this is literally thousands of dollars on the line, which epic doesn't have to give out, and people exploiting to get points definitely deserves a ban, one thing I noticed is you always said b"exploits in the past in COMPETITIVE meaning arena, I never saw anyone exploiting in the world cup, etc, real tournaments for serious money prizes, I never saw people exploit, because epic will ban you, so your kinda covering that by saying competitive, because arena and real tournaments are not the same thing
Well the way I see it… is that if they get kinda harsh on these players who are showing game breaking exploits maybe other players will stop or not even do it. It sucks but they’re being made examples off
That’s not there fault or problem tho. Epic needs to communicate and fix the problem. Cause banning them helps no one
@@dezzyyw7986 banning them scares people into doing it. Obviously
@@BCocky banning them just confused everyone abt what is cheating and what’s not
@@dezzyyw7986 is an exploit cheating?
@@BCocky apparently so according to epic
spider-man turning into 20 uses will be basically useless
I personally think that epic did the right thing as in banning the players for 2 weeks and not allowing them to play in this and the next FNCS as majority of the player base of Fortnite is under 18 years of age and me being in that bracket I can relate that how a teen would take a warning or how the person would think about it , even though the players who were banned did not a massive effect as in banning them for 2 weeks and not allowing them to play in FNCSs. I think that they are trying to make a statement that they are not to be taken for granted as their have been a bit ineffective to ban the cheaters in the CCs and mass reporting is also a big issue , so to conclude; I think they are just trying to make to statement
shouldve mentioned rise and bathan 1st and 2nd in cashy + brothers
When traps placed on top of a roof and would go to both sides killing the person in the box
Epic wont ban a cheater in a cash cup, but will ban people using a heal off glitch in arena games, makes sense
if its in the game, you should be allowed to do it
Epic has definitely gone too far with the banning imo.
I think it was a shit decision by epic. The players didn’t do anything, they just took advantage of the situation. How can that be “cheating”?
And another point that I think Aussie didn’t touch on was that AFTER it got banned in comp you could still do the bug in pubs and not get banned. If the bug was actually cheating then it would’ve been disabled in pubs and pub kids should’ve technically got banned like Jarvis did for cheating in pubs. Basically what I’m saying is that Epic isn’t going by there own definition of cheating consistently.
Exactly. The bug is something that epic themselves accidentally coded into the game. No one should be punished for exploiting it imo
They arent using any skill to win, the description of the item tells you it cant be used in storm, definitely doesnt deserve 2 weeks and 2 fncs, maybe 1-2 days and one fncs so they dont do it again
@@goblin3val yea for sure a 1-2 day ban is alright. It just irritates me that they aren’t defining what was actually cheating. Like technically, and I know I’m nitpicking, cheating is using things from outside the game to gain an advantage and the players clearly didn’t do that here.
@@bramcharan1 i mean cheating is just unfairly using something to your advantage (excluding ping, fps and input delay), i agree though, shouldnt get away with it anyhow, in a hype cup just disqualify, but cus its a cash cup should be banned for 2 days minimum and not allowed to participate in the upcoming fncs
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The fortnite community has become a bunch of spoiled brats. Fortnite has put up an unbelievable amount of money in prizes, without having to go to an event. You can literally log on at your home play and make thousands upon thousands of dollars. We’ve never seen anything even close to it in any other game and we may never see anything like it. Yet people can’t use common sense? And not take these opportunities for granted. They did the right thing and people arguing otherwise are apart of that greed and entitlement. Epic doesn’t owe you anything remember that, and they surely don’t owe anyone trying to cheat their way to the money.
They were grabbing free wins with that strat, while other exploits do something small with this one you are literally milking it all the match to get a victory royale.That's far cry from just using it in a "innocent way"
its in the game its fair to use anyone could do it the game has to be fair the players are fair with using anything they can to win.
Agreed daniel artok, all these people crying saying, "its the devs fault", "anyone could do it", "its epics incompetence" really need to wake up. It's a tournament with some of the best players in the world. It's meant to showcase your skills not only to win but to show the world why you deserve to win the tournament. It's called fair play and good sporstmanship, same with any sport.
Me and my friend were playing arena yesterday and he had 650 brick and 10 minis is that an exploit or a bug if he didn’t intend for that to happen
I think that for the guzzle juice they should make it so you can only pop it with less than 75 hp so you can’t do the storm strat and they should unban those people because epic messed up the item they were just using the item how epic made it
Its gone to the point that whatever anyone does for their own advantage against the items actual use is an exploit. The pros are quitting cuz of this, they make a living off Fortnite
Hey Aussie are you still in Australia sorry I haven’t kept up with stuff and I’m just wondering.
yeah, he leaves in like 2 days
Thanks I just found out in the live stream but thanks though
MUZ is one of the greatest I’ve been saying
Epic: lets let hackers win our cash cups and only ban them in the last game
Also Epic: LEtS BaN ProFeSsioNaL PlAYerS WhO UsE OUr ScReW UpS
Its epics job to fix bugs they need better anti-cheat systems too every cash cup now is full of cheaters
they should make a statement when a new bug/exploit they dont like is found and let players know that if they abuse it they will be punished
It's literally epics fault thats even in the game it's on them to fix it. You can't ban players for finding something that you allowed to be in the game
8.2.1: Intentionally exploiting any game function (e.g., an in-game bug or glitch) in a manner not intended by Epic in order to gain a competitive advantage.
i think the problem is that people use it to play cash cups and to qualify for FNCS and such, *exploits like these should be fine to use as long as your not ruining others chances or making money doing it...
the thumbnail tho l heard muz's name once
no one should get banned when using a bug, it is epic's fault because they didn't fix it
i was in ur stream when muzz won.
I feel as if noone gives a dame about middle east asia and brizil ngl
I think a 1 week ban and if they do it again they miss 30 days + the next fncs