Katawa Shoujo OST - Painful History (Hanako's Theme) Yup, don't mind me, I'm just going to go have a quick cry.... ;-; All credit to 4LeafStudios and Nicol Amarfi
I'm ashamed that i thought her story is typical "let me lead you out from your trauma like some charming prince" Instead it's "you can do it, let me see you stand proud winning against your Trauma"
This game hurt me in more ways than the traditional emotional way. When I first played, I made the choices as I would in real life. I got the Kenji ending. Where you get drunk on the roof, fall off, and die. The second time I played I did Hanako's route. At one point, Hisao noticed Hanako was walking strangely. When he asked her about it, she said she was trying to step only on the darker tiles. When I heard her say that, I thought "Hey, I do almost the same thing." Then Hisao said "How lonely would someone have to be to make up a game like this?" Thanks Hisao...
Angel 219 No. It's just a very minor scene. I think it happens before Act 2, which means it might be possible to miss it even if you do get Hanako's route.
This game actually helped me figure out what I truly wanted in life. When I got out of high school, I was going to be an American Sign Language Interpreter. After a bad run in college, I gave up, believing for the next seven or eight years that I couldn't do it. Somewhere along the way, people kept encouraging me, and I kept brushing them off. Then I played this VN. There was a Deaf girl. The people who made Katawa Shoujo--moreso, the people who wrote Shicchan's route--really made it spot-on, how Deaf and hearing interact. This game inspired me to not only take up studying ASL again, but I went and relearned everything I forgot, went out to sign with Deaf people, and met my tutor who has been helping me toward my future even to this day, for almost two years now. See? Video games CAN be good for you. Katawa Shoujo is what happens when the stars align. Thank you, Katawa Shoujo, and thank you, Four Leaf Studios.
+Sparkle1Princess Well, that's all in the eye of the beholder, I felt her Good end route was more focused on Hope, and the middle of this song also gives me a bit of that feeling, to a lesser extent...
sparkle1princess And that bit really isn't that depressing, particularly looking back on it from what we know in the Good end. Sure, Hisao feels powerless at times, and that's a little sad, but even then, he focuses on all the right things and gets through it.
2 years since i finishied this game, and i can say for sure by this that this game beatiful, story, characters, music MY GOD THE MUSIC OF THIS GAME, but what i like the most of this game are the main characters: rin, hanako, shizune, emi and lily thats what make this game for me a must play if you like visual novels and an awesome VN ,and i can say only one thing to four leaf studios Thank you
Telltale's Walking Dead changed my life of wanting to become a parent and wanting to make many sacrifices I can for my child's happiness. Katawa Shoujo on the other hand, changed the way I view the world. I learned to become a better friend and be well aware accepting of my Autism. The best thing you can do is show unconditional love to all beings regardless of who they are. I even built habits of exercising everyday like Emi, Hanako helping me enjoy reading books again, and drinking healthy tea like Lilly. You get the jist of what I'm saying. This game truly changed my life and I loved every single word I spent reading off of this visual novel. Thank You KS!
_Admittedly... I loved Hanako. As sad as it is, her being fictional and all. She was the only one out of all of them that I felt a true connection with. From the first moment I saw her in the story, all the way until the last (That picture at the end of Hanako's route when she gives you her "Present" it is one of the most cherished pictures I think I've ever seen.) And Hisao, I have a connection with him too. i suffer from a heart condition as well. Not as bad as his is, but still. This whole thing was right in the feels. Especially Hanako's story. It's given me a new outlook on life. Who says games or books or a mixture of both don't teach people._
Couldn't agree more, friend, I've only had a single girlfriend thus far into my lifetime (I am currently 26, we went out for 6 years, its been 3 since she left me) and only realized after playing Hanakos route again that it didnt work out because I was trying to be a 'saviour' to her, similar to the way Hisao was trying to be a 'saviour' to Hanako, and how it only made her feel weaker. Not to mention I identify very closely to Hanakos condition (Not the burns, the crippling anxiety) because I have had serious panic attacks in public settings, and good lord the tsunami of powerful emotions that overtook me is impossible to describe, I still to this day have brutal anxiety to the point of being deeply reclusive, much like Hanako herself.
I identified with Hisao so damn much in this case for very personal reasons Basically (I weirdly feel comfortable talking about it with complete strangers even though of my inner circle only my very best friend knows about it, and it took me 5 years to tell it to her) one year before I played this game, at 15, I was diagnosed with cancer and had to spend months in a hospital chamber, I had the same realization that he had at the beginning, in the first few weeks everyone comes see you and bring you present, want to know how you are, but hy the end of the summer you're alone. To administer the chemo they surgically inserted a catheter into my chest to pump the chemicals directly to my aorta and to this day, I still have a huge scar on my chest, and this whole ordeal is something deeply traumatic that I have a hard time talking about. So as you can guess, the scene where Hisao showed his scar broke me and I couldn't stop crying, I was simply hoping to be the one that could do this, share this moment with someone. I still haven't even 5 and a half years later, but at least playing out this scene in game helped me somewhat cope with my own reality and vicariously share this emotion, even if she is not real, this game gave me a deep connection to this character and I am so glad to have been able to experience it
@@irkira477 I started this VN expecting to laugh my ass off at how cringey it was. Turned out to be one of the best VNs I've ever read. (Tho the emi anal scene was pretty funny)
I am late, but Lily's route was definitely the worst for me. The story itself was good from what I saw, but it felt so so wrong that I was fast forwarding everything. I just couldn't do it, I only finished it for completion but Hanako's route was the only true one to me
in 100%ing the game i got sad thinking about how things would go for the other girls, without Hisao stepping into their life and breaking the cycle, or making them realize something about themselves, or whatever effect he had upon them.
As I was sitting in my hospital room just staring out the window, I kept remembering the beginning of this game, and decided to play this game again for the first time in 10 years. This game was really therapeutic, and Hanako's route will always hold a special place in my heart
Hanako... I miss her... I wish she was real, but it's just a game. Her route honestly helped me a lot with my future decisions, as someone who isolated himself from the world. That's why Hanako's my best girl.
I thought the same, but then I realized how cruel that is. Wishing someone to be broken just to fix her and be with her. That sucks, so I wish there will never be a girl like Hanako, noone deserves to get bullied for something they never wanted nor noone deserves to see their family burn alive
@@someone023 I understand what you mean by that, but I think you got it wrong. I think I was the one who needs to be fixed rather than her. When I first played this game, I finished her route first neutrally. Then I tried the bad... I actually put some thoughts into my actions, especially that I blame myself all the miseries I get at that time (and kinda still now), and I was glad I didn't push what was my original decision, that I didn't get a bad ending in my first run. I was already down at that time, clinically depressed and those thoughts. I broke down crying out for being reasonable at that time. That I somehow didn't push my desires.
My whole life I wanted to do good for people. When I was a child I wanted to achieve immortality for everyone, somehow, but with age I understood that it is impossible and even if it was it should not be achieved anyway, because people should replace people, so that young can experience what their ancestors did. Then I played Deus Ex and wanted to enhance people and their lives, but after this game I understood that first of all we should help those of us, who lack abilities of achieving something themselves. Now I dream of making implants and prosthetics so enhanced so that all disabled people can be equal in opportunities and power to regular. Already studying how all this works, but another question is money, which I will solve too. I don't know exactly how I am going to do this, but I will, no matter how long it takes. Noone should be stopped by something they can't control or choose. Thanks, Katawa Shoujo. Thank you, Hanako
I did my first play through last year and I did Hanako's route second (I accidentally-ed into Shizune first). I cried when I got the bad end first, not because I was hurt about seeing Hanako's reaction but rather I realized that all the time with past relationships I had been doing exactly what Hisao did: I tried to shield someone from the outside world and failed because I kept doing what I thought was best and didn't want to listen to their answer. And if you could identify with that bad end , you know the feeling, like you're the definition of the word failure. My point is, if you have a Hanako around you, don't be the Hisao that gives you the bad end. They're not made of gossamer and candyfloss. They've had shit happen and they need a friend, not a protector. And don't wait for the Lily in that situation to tell you that because you're going to think she's nuts. What you do is show them that you're going to open up without any expectations from them and let them know that you will be there if they need someone or you'll back away if they need space. Don't unload your baggage on them, just let them know that you understand, they will know that you truly care if you do that and mean that. And if you want to make 'the move' you'll know when. Yeah it's a long post but I thought there might be someone with a Hanako close to them who might have no clue of what to do.
Hanako is the best girl in this game. Emotionally and all. Honestly, this entire game made me realize that disabled people are pretty much normal people. And honestly, I would have no problem with being in a relationship with either one of the girls in this game, despite their disabilities, if I weren't currently in one with someone I love quite immensely.
Thunder Hawke Yeah i said i wouldn't even mind going out with a girl with a dissability. this game changed me in a way i can't quite put my finger on it :) i really love this game
I'm like you ^^ This game is.... so true... So emotionally true. If a girl like Hanako, Lily or Emi wants to being in a relationship with me, I will say "yes" in a second after the question
I see sadness as a showing of pain, which seems to attract me towards the character. If there is a way for me to relieve such pain for someone, I would go to any length to do so. It doesn't make any logical sense, but my mind is my own, and my personal pains and traumas of my past are still fundamentally me.
Jesus fucking christ, I only just started playing this, decided to play Hanako's story first, and... wow. I can't believe I'm saying this, but for once in my life, I'm thankful for something that 4chan has produced. Thank you for making me feel, anons. Thank you.
Shinobu Oshino Na, it's all good. Besides, where it came from is largely irrelevant (but no less awesome), due to the sheer volume of feels it gives you. To say this is a masterpiece would be an understatement.
Zane Wederell I played Hanako's story first. I didn't cry. Not once. Perhaps is because I'm used to the heart-shattering impact a Key/Visual Arts anime such as Clannad can deliver. Perhaps it's because I got the good ending (amazing feeling, by the way). Perhaps it's because I found scenes such as her classroom panic attack scene (after Misha pesters Hisao into revealing he bought a birthday present for Hanako) more confusing than anything.
+TiuxxplaysEverything Same. Every time I'd go back and play act 1 to try to get another girl's route I'd see Hanako and cry ;-; I'm on Rin's now which I've read is almost more sad than Hanako's T_T
+sparkle1princess It is, get ready for the ride of your life because Rin's route is the most philosophical and emotional thing you will ever experience.
ToastyCoasty So far, you're absolutley right. I've already cried a few times ;-; I'm just a little bit into act three, and if it's structured anything like Hanako's route, then I think I'm about to start crying a whole lot more. I never thought I would say it, but I think I'm enjoying this MORE than Hanako's. btw, your profile pic is gold xD
I'm 14. Some of the comments here have been made when i was 6. Crazy to think about it. Wonder if there is anyone else around my age who has discovered this life changing story
+Larachelle Constance i hope there was. so it will give hope to whoever can relate even if someone experienced something bad they can still find and hope for joy, happinese and etchetera to come to them.... PEACE!!! HEHE...
Hanako's route was the first I played, I finished it, waited two weeks, and then started Lilly's route. I got a about two or three scenes in and stopped, I just couldn't keep going. That was a year ago. Damn, the feels are strong.
+OneTallOrder Highly suggest you go back and play the rest of the routes. Story is fantastic and I find myself in a situation where I want to be able to experience it all again. So since you can I don't want you to miss out on the opportunity. I've replayed my favourite routes (Lilly and Emi) a lot, but none are as good as the first time.
i cried a fucking lot on lillys one it was so fucking sad just her going to scotland and not telling no one before the fact it was so fucking hurtful how she did that and it maked me feel like she used hisao knowing full well she would go to scotland and very possiblely leave him hanging
in the back of my mind im hoping this game will be brought back to life and appreciated once again by thousands of people. This game is severely underrated
I'm am 14 year old that has discovered this game a few months ago. I love this game. It's don't think any piece of media has made me just think for so long
Katawa Shoujo is probably my favorite Visual Novel and it truly made me feel things i've never felt before. Thank you 4 Leaf Studios for making this project come to reality.. And thank you Katawa Shoujo for having such a Beautiful Story. Masterpiece.
I definitely like this Hanako story WAAAY more than the one they were planning to have originally in the Alpha. That goes double for Shizune's. I'm just glad they decided to go with a more realistic and melancholic route than the melodramatic and dark-for-the-sake-of-being-dark story.
@@rodrigo3732 Oh yeah, Hanako 3 bad endings 1. Hanako goes crazy, thinking she had killed Hisao (she saved his live, but breaking all his ribs), Hisao sneaks into her room in hospital, she thinks he is a ghost, push him away, breaks his ribs again and Hisao died 2. Hanako comes out of the hospital as a emotionless zombie, when they have sex, she say something "all you want was to have sex with me", Hisao stumble backwarts, break his neck and died. 3. Hisao flush Hanakos pills down the toilet, Hanako becomes "normal", suizid on trainstation
Not that anyone will see this, but here's the difference between Doki Doki Literature Club, acclaimed best VN ever, and Katawa Shoujo, acclaimed best VN ever, is each form it contradicts the formula. Doki Doki literally bends the story onto you and tells you that you can't truly love VN characters. Katawa shows you that you can love anyone, no matter their appearance or disabilities. I love both of these VNs, but when it comes to love, Katawa showed me its okay to love those who are not normal, and to love myself, even if I'm not normal.
One of the best things about Katawa Shoujo is that it portrayed the characters as just normal teens that are simply dealing with a disability and it's related issues. No shoving an agenda or virtue signaling. Plus the characters are relatable / likeable
completed KS today. Hanako's route was the final one i needed. imma spoil a bit of the plot for her route, there's your warning. Hanako's good ending. So many feels came from that scene. Especially when Hisao's love confession pops up. The two of them pouring their souls out to each other is extremely affecting as they tear down the hypothetical walls they had built to hide themselves from each other. The raw emotion of the scene combined with the simple melody of "Innocence" brings on the tears, too. The most touching part of the route is in the final image, where Hanako's scars are facing away from the camera, and towards the people in the background, all of whom are staring. Not only that, but the looks they give aren't "Oh wow, someone is actually kissing the scarred girl?!" but rather "Daawww, that's so romantic!" from the girls (including Molly, who seems to be very happy about it), and "Man, how am I gonna match that?" from the guy.
This is one of the best songs in the game. Each time I listen it, the feelings around her history emerges with a sad nostalgic way but, then I remember the good end, and I feel very very nice. That's the way I feel each time I hear againg this one and other KS themes.
Best game I've played in a while. Though hardly a game. I felt I could connect with the main character. I have nver cried while watching a movie, playing a game, or reading a book. This was the first I have ever cried for a game/graphic novel.
Oh god not this one. Not this music. Not this picture. Please no, I don't think my heart can take it ;-; Hanako's route was the first route I played and I remember this scene (the one after the panic attack and she's on the bed crying) more clearly than any other scene barring the bad end. The feels ;-; Music is so powerful.
I did Hanako first as well (unless Kenji die roof yay counts as well) And the first time i got the bad ending. I was SO relived when i remembered i saved just before the second last decision.
Can't believe it's been two years since I first played this game. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I'd just gone through a rough break-up at the time, so playing KS tore my fucking heart out. And yet, it was oddly therapeutic, too -- kind of cathartic. Like all the pain and pent-up sadness just came out in a great deluge. I listen to this two years later and it still leaves me with a heavy heart. To think that something I downloaded as a joke could have such an impact on me -- now that's serendipity. Beautiful music, beautiful character, beautiful game.
Earlier today, I brushed my arm against a pizza stone that spent around 10 minutes in 450F degree heat. Now, about 45 minutes after the incident, it still stings. +Hanako Ikezawa, I feel a newfound sympathy for you. I can't imagine this minor burn pain spread across my body like your accident.
I get your feelings. Over the last couple of days I've made it past 4 stories, having _just_ finished lilly's good ending, and have 2 other characters to go. I feel emotionally busted. A marathon of these.. I'm still picking up broken pieces of my manhood from around my floor ;)
Thor Pedersen Oh hey past self, you should look forward to Rin's story arch. I know she seemed weird, unrelatable and distant, of which was why you postponed her story until only that one remained. But trust me, the writers made a good job at bridging those gaps. Her story is more than worth it going through, and in a way more realistic than the others.
That is funny: I mentally said "me too" when I read your comment, and then discovered afterwards I replied with the same sentiment 4 years ago. I hope this takes you back too.
To be honest, Hanako was the only story to make me tear up. And it was this scene. When she made the comment about not being as pretty as Lilly (which is the way she feels, but isn't true) and opening up to Hisao, just "felt" so much combined with this music. She has a wonderful personality, although blocked away by being so shy. I also don't just blame Hisao for that scene. Hisao loves Hanako, and Hanako obviously loves him too, with what happened the next day, Hanako even admits she wanted that (if Hisao had admitted his love for her the next morning, it would have been better for both), but both people's personal issues prevent them from what they want to say most.
Wassup. It's been over a month since I finished this game. To be frank, I kinda got over the girls. It's like, I've taken them for who they are, fictional characters and nothing more. But the impact is still there, I would say. Still a good game, but not the best ever.
@@saadmanomar7754 Still impacted? When i first played this game a couple months ago i spent like a week or two coping with the fact that i will never have a girl like Lily or Hanako then moved on like i always do
@@butteredpooper7750 They sure had some perma positive impacts in my life. But, I have moved on mostly. They did teach me a lot, though. And I am grateful to them for that.
The real lesson from Hanako's route is that you don't need to "fix" someone who is "broken", you just have to be there and support them while they heal on their own pace.
The game conveys beyond all happiness, nostalgia, sadness. I could say it's a perfect game this song us this song shows us the sad story of hanako and the intention of wanting to help her, without a doubt one of the best routes , my sincere thanks to the director who is no longer with us but I leave us a gem of a visual novel, thanks for all katawa shoujo ❤️
YES INDEED, THE GAME IS A MASTER PIECE I love it for the third time playing it the sad thing the creator has passed away. But we will never forget what he left for us ❤️ RIP
Man i played this vn i didn't know what was it about heard of it through a UA-cam comment so i did know it was an eroge but the comment also mentioned that it is a very emotional vn let me tell you I never played a vn before this (i am 22) so i wasn't expecting what i got. My first play thorough the moment i encountered hanako in library made it final which girl i am choosing so i did choose the options which i thought would led me to her but i ended up doing emi's route it was quite nice definitely the best for main character's health as he was quite fit by the end of emi's route.It was emotional sometimes annoying but good. This time i was adamant getting hanako's quite there was a certain mystery to her character and it struck me that she is probably the most tragic and innocent character in game (looking at those eyes and her demeanor and all).Oh man it was a ride it exceeded all my expectations i am not a very emotional person but the time she mentioned the accident in library and practically forced her to inform hisao about her past got me i had tears in my eyes as the story went further and she had that panic attack in classroom it was just too real it made me feel so sorry for her and then when lily and mc visited her room and the realisation that she was crying in her room made me wonder just how many nights that this girl cried herself to sleep. The ending was absolutely a masterpiece i do wish that it should have been longer but hey i was satisfied,and the last part where she just basically said she never wanted a saviour only a friend and i realised how the main character was treating her like a doll not an actual person a doll so fragile (this was mentioned) that it might break just aftera mere touch she hated pity to her it was a fake emotion she despised and the way mc and lily acted made her feel she was being pitied but for them she accepted that....mannn it has ben a long time since i typed this much for a youtube comment but seriously the character writing was so good that i couldn't bring myself to play any other route after hanako's i tried but just when the library scene came i just couldn't it felt like cheating I know some people say that she had a better ending in lily's route i don't agree with them to me this was the best ending as nakai said that she can change and she is already changing gives it away that she will improve socially and become more outgoing and trusting not to mention her route was shorter than lily's so it proves she can improve and with hisao by her side that would be an easier job. Katawa shoujo isn't a vn it's a beautiful and emotional experience To the people reading this AGREE WITH LILY......el psy kongroo
@@charmeleon0540 iirc i found the comment about this vn on a channel which i often watch named Natalie x hunter,she makes videos about re zero and other anime.There was this video where she described her experience with a vn called euphoria which is considered pretty let's say explicit and disturbing adult vn she was saying that it was a different experience so there was this comment with time stamp saying how katawa shoujo basically changed him as a person and it was very impactful basically describing for a dating sim it was something different i never played a vn before so i searched it up and it was free and rest is described in my original comment
Katawa Shoujo finally made me cry. A couple tears dropped as I was listening to this. ....And then the floodgates opened as I realized how much this song fit me nowadays.
-Thankfully/Sadly- I hope I never meet a Hanako in real life because as much as I love her character I hope no one goes through what this fictional soul has faced... yet knowing this world someone like her exist and unlike the game she/he may not have a Good Ending.
I just finished Hanako's story and I'm running low on tissues, its surprising how attached you get to the characters and how deep the story is for each character. Its not raunchy and even though its fiction you cant help but feel SOMETHING for each girl as their story unfolds.
Not sure how many people still come by to visit this haha, but I just went back to play KS again. Hanako's route was my first, and to this day I can't play any others, it kinda feels wrong haha. I'm so happy that they made something so amazing and emotional. I'm just so grateful that I get to come back to this over and over again through the years.
jesus, hanako's route was my favorite route. her personality drew me in tbh, she seemed shy yet so sweet at the same time. as the story progressed and whenever I would see hanako begin to cry I couldn't help but start saying "no, please don't cry" as if she really existed. funny part was whenever the protagonist was like "she's just a friend, its not like any things going to happen" I wanted to say "shut the hell up, she is your waifu you fuck" though the ending got to me the most (I got the good end) just AHHH, I was left at the edge of my seat like "what? that cant possibly be it, I refuse to accept this!" and force these feels I thank katawa shoujo.
The big problem is Hisaou, at times, acts as though he is as dumb as driveway gravel. Plus a few scenes could have been done better (esp the H scene for type and timing). Overall, Hanako is actually the most likeable character / one you could relate to and someone you could (if she were irl) really fall in love with.
Shadow Sonata yep, I agree with everything you just said! Hisao acted very dumb at times and it is in fact true that a few of the scenes could have been written a bit better or better paced
It's interesting how we almost never hear this in the game. We hear the other girls' themes from the second they pop up on the screen, but this song only plays a couple of times.
I just thought of the weirdest question ever, considering Hanako is a visual novel character: If Hanako herself heard this theme, would she think it was beautiful, or would she hate how sad it sounded? I find it's actually hard to say which way she would go. Who knows; maybe she'd feel a bit of both. Find it really beautiful even while hating how sad it sounds. Anyone else got thoughts on this?
diggerwillis1 She'd probably wonder why the heck she even had fans in the first place! ;P After that initial "okay- what the heck?" thought though, she'd probably have mixed feelings about it.... hm. I dunno what she would think, how she would feel about it. Maybe it would make her happy. Then again.... hm, I guess it would depend on what part of her path you told her at. Start story Hanako is a totally different person from end story Hanako (referring to her best path only here).
RadiantDarkBlaze . I don't know about you, but no matter what the circumstances I wouldn't be thrilled to find out I'm a girl in a VN. It would mean A. an unavoidable destiny no matter which end you get, and B. that you don't even get to be the main character in your own life. Aside from that it also means everyone is projecting their feelings onto you, and if we're talking about Hisao, is means the guy you love is an empty vessel for people of varying levels of desirability, none of whom you've met (seriously, it's kind of like having thousands of stalkers take over your love interest. Why would you like that?)
Heh, mm, that's one way to look at it I guess. I personally don't think of it that way though. If you consider the world that Hisao lives in to be separate from ours, then the game is merely a window to let us see but a small sample of the different parallel timelines that world has. I don't see Hisao as an embodiment of the 1000s of stalkers in this world, I see him as a character that all of the timelines that the game happens to give us a window into happen to revolve around. Or, at the very least, the game just insists on mostly always showing us his viewpoint. We just get to choose which timeline we want to see- I don't see it as the player making the choices for Hisao. There could easily be a re-imagination of the game where say, you see the events from Hanako's POV and see her thoughts, and see some of the timelines from her perspective, see what effects her different possible thoughts at any given moment could have on the events in that world. There just isn't anything like that yet so we don't have any windows into any of those timelines yet. Maybe something like that will be made in the future, maybe nothing like that will ever made. Probably more likely that it won't ever be made unfortunately. As for if it were like how you seem to think of it, yeah, that wouldn't exactly be a pleasant experience to find out you're a character in a game like this one. No real control over your destiny, probably not being the main character of your own life or if you are then well you're probably actually practically a hollow vessel that 1000s upon 1000s of people from some other world are projecting their feelings into.... just plain not pleasant for any of the characters really, not even the main character. That's why I prefer to view it my way rather than your way. I don't want to think it could ever be possible for anyone to ever be controlled by anyone but themselves, whatever world they're from. .... Me and my habit of leaving long comments. That one was potentially quite confusing to boot. If you're still not 100% clear on how I view things then please feel free to ask away if you want.
RadiantDarkBlaze . No, it was perfectly clear, and to be quite honest I'm far from immune from leaving long-winded posts myself, so I certainly can't complain about yours. I see where you're coming from. I guess the way I interpreted it was "finding out I'm part of a game". If we're just talking about invented worlds then of course we're only seeing a small part of it and a really well-made character (like Hanako and many of the other characters) can and should be able to be put in new situations and act according to their character without you needing to think too hard (the idea of "characters coming to life" that lots of authors talk about). That's a perfectly valid and reasonable way of looking at it. It just depends on what foundation you're thinking from (i.e. are we talking about another reality in an abstract sense or keeping it limited to the concept of "being fiction/a game"). I don't think either way of looking at it is really a bad one. And you went further with the way I posited in a way I hadn't thought of... kind of like a combination of The Matrix and Twitch Plays Pokemon... it doesn't at all sound like a pleasant world to live in. But it would probably make for an interesting story premise!
Okay, well, if we're both prone to leaving long comments I guess we're good, lol. ;) Glad to hear I somehow made that make perfect sense. :) I kind of want to get into writing myself, become an author, because even just randomly out of the blue sometimes an idea for a character pops into my head. An idea for a story pops into my head. Even when I'm just sitting there doing nothing, not trying to think of any one thing in particular. And those ideas I come up with often seem good. Only trouble is that rarely ever happens while I'm actually trying to write. Either way though, I think I can understand the idea of a really well-made character coming to life. .... Sorry to inform you I'm not into either The Matrix or Twitch Plays Pokemon. Those references are lost on me. I'll.... take your word for it? That what I was saying was something like a combination of the two? I think I've heard of both before at least, I've just never watched any of either of them.
Why does THIS have to play during the H-scene... Still an incredibly beautiful track, and it captures the way Hanako feels really well. If you regret your existence because of things that happened in the past, it's pretty painful.
Moment of extreme variability, something she would never do for anyone else, she opened up in the most romantic way possible. How do immediately dismiss it as cheap if you read her story? No mental maturity all
The single-most emotionally powerful song I have ever heard after playing this game. Also one of the most Heart-wrenching scenes ever, now I know how Hisao got Arrhythmia.
Don't know the game nor what it's about, only know this one "WHAT ARE THOSE!!??" Emi meme, but it's quite a strange feeling seeing people so touched and inspired by it. Thank you for your work Raide, Godspeed.
It's really funny, how this girl makes you want to protect her, when that's what she hates most. I think while Hisao needed to learn not to white knight for her, Hanako, similarly to Emi, needed to learn that being there for someone and wanting to empower them doesn't mean you pity them.
i did hanako's route first. the tears welled up on two occasions for me: 1) when she cried in her bed 2) when she showed her true self to hisao already done shizune and currently doing emi's,,, however im abit conflicted when its time to do lily's route, coz u know hanako's going to be there.... aarrgghh note: when im reading through hanako's dialogue, i imagine saori hayami's voice.
wow i think im going through the same route order as you. did hanako, shizune so far, and i plan to do emi then rin and save lilly for last. I cried those two times as well as the ending when she breaks down crying......
Come on everyone, there's no problem with crying. It shows that you're human. The idea of someone hurting this much makes you tear up shows that you're a good person who would never want someone to feel the way this song is making you feel. It's not the lack of tears that show strength, but rather the lack of fear in showing them that shows you're truly strong.
As for her sex scene...she never said no, but she never said yes either. Hisao should have realized that and stopped himself. And he had no idea what the hell he was doing, which made one particular part even more painful to read.
Though if ya think about it, she seemed quite happy after. Wasn't like she was totally against it while they were doing it, she was the one who leaned back for it. I know she may have felt pressured in some way as well. But what happened beforehand, Hanako showing Hisao her scars, was soooo sweet...
I think the biggest thing to realize is that, in my opinion, had she not met Lilly, she probably would have killed herself. People with suicidal thoughts or tendencies think that they are worthless, and actually try to push people away, become complacent, and wait for the right time when they think the world stops looking at them. Lilly saved a beautiful life, but not without a cost. However worthless Hanako felt before at times became worse. She no longer thought she was worthless (at least not to Lilly) but came to realize she was a burden to those few she cared for, less than nothing. She could not kill herself, yes, but only because it would break their hearts, so instead she just broods on her birthday, wishing she was never even born to cause such trouble to everyone she sees. (It is the reason she freezes every time her birthday is mentioned. She thinks that there is no reason to celebrate such a day in her mind. It is possible the fire happened on that day, but assuming it did not, this provides the only real explanation for such an act). All being alive seemed to do was cause suffering in her eyes; To her mother, Lilly, Hisao, and anyone who recoils instinctively when they see her. After Hisao gives her due space and time to figure it out, she finds that she wants to change all of it and stop being a burden. She realizes how much she needs Hisao and Lilly, and does not want either of them to drift away from her. When Hisao gives her the phone-strap and calls her a friend, she puts an imaginary debt to Hisao in herself, thinking of ways to repay him. She felt if she did not, it would only reinforce how she felt like a burden on him. All this time she thinks that he is her friend, but that she is not his. She means something to him, but she does not see that. That is why the sex leaves a bad taste and feels weird. It was paid for, in one way or another. Hanako did it because of ulterior motives (She wants you to stay, she does not want you to leave her behind, she knows that Hisao would not think of doing something like that to her, despite wanting to), but not for the act itself. Its like a musician doing a gig to pay rent - even if it is still fun and enjoyable, its less so because it becomes necessary. Yes, to Hanako, showing her scars to him was something she absolutely had to do. The part afterwards where Hisao questions what happens plays on the blurred lines a lot as well, mostly because he is completely oblivious to how Hanako actually feels throughout the entire story. He literally only figures it out on the last scene, when she blurts it out at him that she hated feeling worthless. That being said, he fulfills her wishes. She finally means something to someone, and that is what matters more to her than anything. She means something; she is no longer worthless, and it is because of him that she no longer is (in her eyes), thus why she now loves Hisao. I can not come up with an alternative at that point in the story where Hanako willingly has sex with you that doesn't feel any weirder or more uncharacteristic of her, so it all fits in my mind.
Alright. I hadn't played in maybe a few days, so I kinda forgot what she said when she confessed her love for him, so I do see your point on how it wasn't totally sweet as I was thinking. I like the analogy, helps me think about it more and understand it. Feel kinda like I was a bit naive as well. My thoughts have changed on it for one, you explaining this, and that I reread her story on the wiki for a reason I forget. Truly sad though. I find it still at least a bit sweet, although bitter nonetheless, for the reasons you've said. Maybe not sweet is the right word, but not all bitter. Although I'm not totally finished with my second story, I am still thinking Hanako was my favourite. Very sad and touching story, I find it. Thank you though for explaining this quite fully for me as well.
You're welcome. I just kinda wanted to write about it, having completed the game not too long ago myself, letting it stew in my mind (How else did I end up on this video?). It's not the most bitter story in there, surprisingly. I mean, in the end, she really does love Hisao. That kiss, as she said, was her chance to give her first gift to him, and she said she had wanted to do it for weeks (I assume after the phone strap). It was mostly Hisao's trepidation and lack of getting a clue about how Hanako feels that made it so weird. It was pretty much his fault they did not fall in love any sooner. As I said before, though, I find the story befitting the characters. I say this because, if Hisao was not as clueless, this would have easily been my favorite route (Though I think Hanako might be my favorite character). I find it about third on my list. Hope you like all the other ones; the game does not hold any punches.
Oh, cool! Okay, huh. I'm doing Shizune now, and it is definitely not as bitter or anything so far, but I am liking it. Yes, I do agree with that. I think I agree with that it may not be the best route, but I find Hanako my favourite character. I'm doing Lilly after Shizune probably, and it seems she also has a very good route, at least to a large amount of UA-cam comments. I have a feeling Rin's will have some interesting turnabouts, then my friend told me about Emi's, and that it was really just very sweet. Thank you, again! It's nice having these discussions. :)
I can honestly say that Hanako has motivated me to become a psychiatrist. The world and people are a scary enough on their own that becoming mean can cause those of us who are alone too much pain. Im not becoming a psychiatrist to "fix" broken people. But to help them stand up on their own. Thank you hanako for giving my life direction just like you did for hisao. I know you arent a real person, but i wish you the best and hope you find happiness with hisao.
one of my (internet) friends said i was edgy for having this song on loop after hearing the title. what if i could make them play this game then listen to this on loop after at least playing hanako route
I'm the most sad person on earth right now for 2 things first the creator of the game has passed away we will not see another great VN like katawa Shoujo RIP the second for not having any tears left in my eyes right now after I have finished all routes for the third time the most VN can make your day the story it's outstanding for me at least. There's a lot of people who got some bad day or bad year And they have everything they need in life to survive BUT WE DO NOT FEEL SATISFIED. look at those people who has disability's in there life's and they going forward but us who had a lot and not having an issue with ourselves having a good body and health at least and we do not feel satisfied with our lives what are we In front of them . . . . anyway great music so good for the game the art is good I don't have to much too say now I have said what I have to say . :)
Well i finished the game today and started playing it two weeks ago. I started basically playing it normally but the girls that i liked are lilly and hanako. But damn, hanako’s path was literally an emotional rollercoaster. Imma spoil a bit the path: Damn from where i would start! From how their interactions at the start were basically small talks and hanako couldn’t talk to hisao honestly only until she knew that he treats her as a human being and not some fragile doll. The scene where she basically told her entire past and the song with it stabbed my heart and shattered it into a million pieces. The interaction with hisao in the end at the park made me see in the end that everyone has their own thing that happened to them and can’t control it. I have diabetes and i coped with it because it didn’t leave me hopeless since there’s options like insulin and all. Yet an emotional scar caused by an incident that she couldn’t control at all that’s in another level of its own 😢😢😢. Hanako best girl. Thank you 4 leaf studio for making this game.
After finishing all the paths I was left with one realization, the best path for Hanako wasn't with Hisao it was when he was with Lily and Hanako started to become a journalist. An odd take some might think though Hanako seemed to become more outgoing and confident in herself during the Lily route.
I'm struggling with the motivation to do her route in general because I'm afraid i'll get horrible High School flashbacks (Running out of class when overwhelmed crying on the stairs over by my Computer Programming Class a few times due to a recently developed for 2017-18 Social Anxiety Disorder)
Her "bad" ending may actually have been a good one for her. She finally stands up for herself, after the PC has been white knighting her (something she despises). From the teachers to Lilly (who even admits she treated Hanako like a surrogate daughter, and it was a mistake) and now Hisaou, she finally had enough. The worst thing is, even after she said that being pitied was even worse than bullying, he did it anyway.
That moment when she places her hand on hisaos chest and feels his scar. The feelings that both characters can relate to each other based upon the pain the they went through and will have scars that will stay with each of them forever. In my opinion I see kindred spirits.
![Katawa Shoujo - Painful History [Extended 1hour]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/LHty4aawbAo/mqdefault.jpg)
![Katawa Shoujo - Painful History [Extended 1hour]](/img/tr.png)
"I can fix her."
She doesn't need fixing, she needs loving and I have plenty of love to share.
Well said brother
I'm ashamed that i thought her story is typical "let me lead you out from your trauma like some charming prince"
Instead it's "you can do it, let me see you stand proud winning against your Trauma"
This game hurt me in more ways than the traditional emotional way.
When I first played, I made the choices as I would in real life. I got the Kenji ending. Where you get drunk on the roof, fall off, and die.
The second time I played I did Hanako's route. At one point, Hisao noticed Hanako was walking strangely. When he asked her about it, she said she was trying to step only on the darker tiles. When I heard her say that, I thought "Hey, I do almost the same thing." Then Hisao said "How lonely would someone have to be to make up a game like this?"
Thanks Hisao...
Me too lol
OMFG I thought I was the only one!
Angel 219 No. It's just a very minor scene. I think it happens before Act 2, which means it might be possible to miss it even if you do get Hanako's route.
Angel, it's definitely there. It's roughly in the earlier stages of the route, and it's a pretty short scene.
Have fun dude/dudette~
This game actually helped me figure out what I truly wanted in life. When I got out of high school, I was going to be an American Sign Language Interpreter. After a bad run in college, I gave up, believing for the next seven or eight years that I couldn't do it. Somewhere along the way, people kept encouraging me, and I kept brushing them off.
Then I played this VN. There was a Deaf girl. The people who made Katawa Shoujo--moreso, the people who wrote Shicchan's route--really made it spot-on, how Deaf and hearing interact. This game inspired me to not only take up studying ASL again, but I went and relearned everything I forgot, went out to sign with Deaf people, and met my tutor who has been helping me toward my future even to this day, for almost two years now. See? Video games CAN be good for you. Katawa Shoujo is what happens when the stars align.
Thank you, Katawa Shoujo, and thank you, Four Leaf Studios.
cool story
Just something I noticed...
Out of all the girl's themes, Hanako's the only one with a depressing tone...
+しるまいなるみ But by far the best.
+しるまいなるみ Well, her story is by far the most depressing, and she is also by far the most broken. Seems fitting for her character.
+Sparkle1Princess Well, that's all in the eye of the beholder, I felt her Good end route was more focused on Hope, and the middle of this song also gives me a bit of that feeling, to a lesser extent...
Illusionist Kyouko The route up till "beginning of the end" is all the same no matter what ending you're trying to get.
sparkle1princess And that bit really isn't that depressing, particularly looking back on it from what we know in the Good end. Sure, Hisao feels powerless at times, and that's a little sad, but even then, he focuses on all the right things and gets through it.
If only Hanako knew how much everyone who played this game cares about her.
Yes....
Sadly, the creator of Katawa Shoujo has passed away July 22, 2020. May his soul rest in peace forever.
oh thanks for informing me
I'm only 1 year late to the news.
@@gallantsteel8542 same dw ^^"
Just saw this… It’s heartbreaking… Katawa Shoujo was one of the reasons I got into VNs/Eroge in the first place…
This makes me genuinely sad. We will never have a game that breaks your heart like katawa Shoujo did.
@@lordwetrustl7080 Correction: That breaks your heart and then stitches it right back together
The feels never go aways. You just learn how to live with them. It's pretty much all you can do.
so true...
Couldn't be more right on that one.
2 years and a half that I ended this game, and it always hurts that much...
Still here, 5+ years later, all the bitter sweet of this route and this game
2 years since i finishied this game, and i can say for sure by this that this game beatiful, story, characters, music MY GOD THE MUSIC OF THIS GAME, but what i like the most of this game are the main characters: rin, hanako, shizune, emi and lily thats what make this game for me a must play if you like visual novels and an awesome VN ,and i can say only one thing to four leaf studios
Thank you
The scene where she has a panic attack in class just broke me
Same especially since I also have Anxiety but from a different reason
Telltale's Walking Dead changed my life of wanting to become a parent and wanting to make many sacrifices I can for my child's happiness. Katawa Shoujo on the other hand, changed the way I view the world. I learned to become a better friend and be well aware accepting of my Autism. The best thing you can do is show unconditional love to all beings regardless of who they are. I even built habits of exercising everyday like Emi, Hanako helping me enjoy reading books again, and drinking healthy tea like Lilly. You get the jist of what I'm saying. This game truly changed my life and I loved every single word I spent reading off of this visual novel. Thank You KS!
As a fellow autistic, this game helped me with self-acceptance as well! It's cool seeing someone else it helped in the same way!
On a similar case, they also have motivated me to keep going for healthy habits!
The game has a genuine and honest influence
_Admittedly... I loved Hanako. As sad as it is, her being fictional and all. She was the only one out of all of them that I felt a true connection with. From the first moment I saw her in the story, all the way until the last (That picture at the end of Hanako's route when she gives you her "Present" it is one of the most cherished pictures I think I've ever seen.) And Hisao, I have a connection with him too. i suffer from a heart condition as well. Not as bad as his is, but still. This whole thing was right in the feels. Especially Hanako's story. It's given me a new outlook on life. Who says games or books or a mixture of both don't teach people._
Couldn't agree more, friend, I've only had a single girlfriend thus far into my lifetime (I am currently 26, we went out for 6 years, its been 3 since she left me) and only realized after playing Hanakos route again that it didnt work out because I was trying to be a 'saviour' to her, similar to the way Hisao was trying to be a 'saviour' to Hanako, and how it only made her feel weaker. Not to mention I identify very closely to Hanakos condition (Not the burns, the crippling anxiety) because I have had serious panic attacks in public settings, and good lord the tsunami of powerful emotions that overtook me is impossible to describe, I still to this day have brutal anxiety to the point of being deeply reclusive, much like Hanako herself.
Emi was my favorite (1st route) until I did Lilly (second.) Lilly best.
I identified with Hisao so damn much in this case for very personal reasons
Basically (I weirdly feel comfortable talking about it with complete strangers even though of my inner circle only my very best friend knows about it, and it took me 5 years to tell it to her) one year before I played this game, at 15, I was diagnosed with cancer and had to spend months in a hospital chamber, I had the same realization that he had at the beginning, in the first few weeks everyone comes see you and bring you present, want to know how you are, but hy the end of the summer you're alone. To administer the chemo they surgically inserted a catheter into my chest to pump the chemicals directly to my aorta and to this day, I still have a huge scar on my chest, and this whole ordeal is something deeply traumatic that I have a hard time talking about.
So as you can guess, the scene where Hisao showed his scar broke me and I couldn't stop crying, I was simply hoping to be the one that could do this, share this moment with someone. I still haven't even 5 and a half years later, but at least playing out this scene in game helped me somewhat cope with my own reality and vicariously share this emotion, even if she is not real, this game gave me a deep connection to this character and I am so glad to have been able to experience it
don't even want to fap, only cry and empathize
I know the feel. Clannad was the only other story to make me feel it.
'Come for the hentai, stay for the feels'
i actually only came for the feels xD and i loved it, and stayed with it FOR the feels
I came to make my thing hard, ends up getting soft. I'm not disappointed at all
@@irkira477 I started this VN expecting to laugh my ass off at how cringey it was.
Turned out to be one of the best VNs I've ever read.
(Tho the emi anal scene was pretty funny)
I got so attached that playing every other Route properly felt like cheating. #thefeels
Same... Hanako is probably my Waifu forever.
I am late, but Lily's route was definitely the worst for me. The story itself was good from what I saw, but it felt so so wrong that I was fast forwarding everything. I just couldn't do it, I only finished it for completion but Hanako's route was the only true one to me
OverlordBoson same tbh
@@sephikong8323 Maaan my point exactly, Lily's route is just that, having Hanako next you all the time and still going for Lily is just argh
in 100%ing the game i got sad thinking about how things would go for the other girls, without Hisao stepping into their life and breaking the cycle, or making them realize something about themselves, or whatever effect he had upon them.
As I was sitting in my hospital room just staring out the window, I kept remembering the beginning of this game, and decided to play this game again for the first time in 10 years. This game was really therapeutic, and Hanako's route will always hold a special place in my heart
I hope you are allright right now
Hanako... I miss her... I wish she was real, but it's just a game.
Her route honestly helped me a lot with my future decisions, as someone who isolated himself from the world. That's why Hanako's my best girl.
I thought the same, but then I realized how cruel that is. Wishing someone to be broken just to fix her and be with her. That sucks, so I wish there will never be a girl like Hanako, noone deserves to get bullied for something they never wanted nor noone deserves to see their family burn alive
@@someone023 I understand what you mean by that, but I think you got it wrong. I think I was the one who needs to be fixed rather than her.
When I first played this game, I finished her route first neutrally. Then I tried the bad...
I actually put some thoughts into my actions, especially that I blame myself all the miseries I get at that time (and kinda still now), and I was glad I didn't push what was my original decision, that I didn't get a bad ending in my first run.
I was already down at that time, clinically depressed and those thoughts. I broke down crying out for being reasonable at that time. That I somehow didn't push my desires.
"This is me. All... of me."
-- Ikezawa Hanako
My whole life I wanted to do good for people. When I was a child I wanted to achieve immortality for everyone, somehow, but with age I understood that it is impossible and even if it was it should not be achieved anyway, because people should replace people, so that young can experience what their ancestors did. Then I played Deus Ex and wanted to enhance people and their lives, but after this game I understood that first of all we should help those of us, who lack abilities of achieving something themselves. Now I dream of making implants and prosthetics so enhanced so that all disabled people can be equal in opportunities and power to regular. Already studying how all this works, but another question is money, which I will solve too. I don't know exactly how I am going to do this, but I will, no matter how long it takes. Noone should be stopped by something they can't control or choose.
Thanks, Katawa Shoujo. Thank you, Hanako
This is really beautiful
I did my first play through last year and I did Hanako's route second (I accidentally-ed into Shizune first). I cried when I got the bad end first, not because I was hurt about seeing Hanako's reaction but rather I realized that all the time with past relationships I had been doing exactly what Hisao did: I tried to shield someone from the outside world and failed because I kept doing what I thought was best and didn't want to listen to their answer. And if you could identify with that bad end , you know the feeling, like you're the definition of the word failure.
My point is, if you have a Hanako around you, don't be the Hisao that gives you the bad end. They're not made of gossamer and candyfloss. They've had shit happen and they need a friend, not a protector. And don't wait for the Lily in that situation to tell you that because you're going to think she's nuts. What you do is show them that you're going to open up without any expectations from them and let them know that you will be there if they need someone or you'll back away if they need space. Don't unload your baggage on them, just let them know that you understand, they will know that you truly care if you do that and mean that. And if you want to make 'the move' you'll know when.
Yeah it's a long post but I thought there might be someone with a Hanako close to them who might have no clue of what to do.
Hanako is the best girl in this game. Emotionally and all. Honestly, this entire game made me realize that disabled people are pretty much normal people. And honestly, I would have no problem with being in a relationship with either one of the girls in this game, despite their disabilities, if I weren't currently in one with someone I love quite immensely.
Thunder Hawke Yeah i said i wouldn't even mind going out with a girl with a dissability. this game changed me in a way i can't quite put my finger on it :) i really love this game
I'm like you ^^ This game is.... so true... So emotionally true. If a girl like Hanako, Lily or Emi wants to being in a relationship with me, I will say "yes" in a second after the question
Yeah ^-^, This game it means a lot to me XD
Flyersfan5896
I just can't understand people who doesn't like this game x)
Razoredge Yeah same :/
Is it bad I see this song more as beautiful than sad?
Just like how I see Hanako.
I've always seen sadness as beautiful.
I see sadness as a showing of pain, which seems to attract me towards the character. If there is a way for me to relieve such pain for someone, I would go to any length to do so. It doesn't make any logical sense, but my mind is my own, and my personal pains and traumas of my past are still fundamentally me.
it just shows that you can see beauty even in suffering.
Nietzsche likes people like that
Is it normal for a person like me to cry just by hearing this sad theme?
P.S. I am genuinely crying
@@Lefy2007 your 9 years late to the show
I was just casually listening to the 'my mix' youtube playlist when suddenly this comes out of nowhere with a flying kick to my emotional balance.
Jesus fucking christ, I only just started playing this, decided to play Hanako's story first, and... wow.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but for once in my life, I'm thankful for something that 4chan has produced. Thank you for making me feel, anons. Thank you.
Zane Wederell 4CHAN???!!!!! IT IS 4LEAF STUDIOS .___.
Shinobu Oshino And where was 4leaf studios born? 4chan. Where was the original idea for the game posted? 4chan.
Sorry i didn't know, my bad :)
Shinobu Oshino Na, it's all good. Besides, where it came from is largely irrelevant (but no less awesome), due to the sheer volume of feels it gives you. To say this is a masterpiece would be an understatement.
Zane Wederell I played Hanako's story first. I didn't cry. Not once. Perhaps is because I'm used to the heart-shattering impact a Key/Visual Arts anime such as Clannad can deliver. Perhaps it's because I got the good ending (amazing feeling, by the way). Perhaps it's because I found scenes such as her classroom panic attack scene (after Misha pesters Hisao into revealing he bought a birthday present for Hanako) more confusing than anything.
Love how every other theme sounds rather lighthearted and kinda chill, and Hanako's just goes "S U F F E R"
3 months after I played this route and I can't play other route, I really feel Hanako in my heart
Same ;-;
I just completed Lilly's today... Fuck, that's a ride.
Hanako was my first and I couldn't play any other route for a while
+TiuxxplaysEverything Same. Every time I'd go back and play act 1 to try to get another girl's route I'd see Hanako and cry ;-;
I'm on Rin's now which I've read is almost more sad than Hanako's T_T
+sparkle1princess It is, get ready for the ride of your life because Rin's route is the most philosophical and emotional thing you will ever experience.
ToastyCoasty So far, you're absolutley right. I've already cried a few times ;-; I'm just a little bit into act three, and if it's structured anything like Hanako's route, then I think I'm about to start crying a whole lot more. I never thought I would say it, but I think I'm enjoying this MORE than Hanako's.
btw, your profile pic is gold xD
I'm 14. Some of the comments here have been made when i was 6. Crazy to think about it. Wonder if there is anyone else around my age who has discovered this life changing story
sadly idk, very few nowadays even have the patience to read a visual novel.
Lol I played this 8 years ago when I was 14
@@mr.clevertrick8710 sad that the majority of the youth would prefer spend hours on tiktok instead of this
Her only flaw, or perhaps her best virtue, is that she isn't real.
+Lord Ruyan i hope nobody will ever ever live what she had lived
+Larachelle Constance i hope there was. so it will give hope to whoever can relate even if someone experienced something bad they can still find and hope for joy, happinese and etchetera to come to them.... PEACE!!! HEHE...
Larachelle Constance both the best part of the game, and most saddening is that there are people who have to live this irl.
read this scene->pause game->hug pillow->cry for hours
Hanako's route was the first I played, I finished it, waited two weeks, and then started Lilly's route. I got a about two or three scenes in and stopped, I just couldn't keep going. That was a year ago. Damn, the feels are strong.
+OneTallOrder Highly suggest you go back and play the rest of the routes. Story is fantastic and I find myself in a situation where I want to be able to experience it all again. So since you can I don't want you to miss out on the opportunity. I've replayed my favourite routes (Lilly and Emi) a lot, but none are as good as the first time.
The final piano-part at 2:24 gets me everytime, as if the whole song just leads up to this part
Well favourite out of all the characters sad story but you cant help but cry at her story :'( hanako my no1
#HanakoBestGirl
i cried a fucking lot on lillys one
it was so fucking sad just her going to scotland and not telling no one before the fact
it was so fucking hurtful how she did that and it maked me feel like she used hisao knowing full well she would go to scotland and very possiblely leave him hanging
in the back of my mind im hoping this game will be brought back to life and appreciated once again by thousands of people. This game is severely underrated
I'm am 14 year old that has discovered this game a few months ago. I love this game. It's don't think any piece of media has made me just think for so long
Gigguk made a video on it so it might get a boost for the next few weeks.
Well this aged well. Steam release got the game going again
Katawa Shoujo is probably my favorite Visual Novel and it truly made me feel things i've never felt before. Thank you 4 Leaf Studios for making this project come to reality.. And thank you Katawa Shoujo for having such a Beautiful Story. Masterpiece.
This game man.. this game changes a man.
played this game 3 years ago and it still hits me in the feels
Damn straight
I definitely like this Hanako story WAAAY more than the one they were planning to have originally in the Alpha.
That goes double for Shizune's.
I'm just glad they decided to go with a more realistic and melancholic route than the melodramatic and dark-for-the-sake-of-being-dark story.
ICouldn'tComeUpWithAGoodUsername I felt pretty queasy reading about Hisao choking up blood and dying though
Yeah the alpha was gruesome.
What do you mean? The alpha version had a different story?
@@rodrigo3732 alpha and beta were fucked up, specially Hanako and Shizune bad endings
@@rodrigo3732 Oh yeah, Hanako 3 bad endings
1. Hanako goes crazy, thinking she had killed Hisao (she saved his live, but breaking all his ribs), Hisao sneaks into her room in hospital, she thinks he is a ghost, push him away, breaks his ribs again and Hisao died
2. Hanako comes out of the hospital as a emotionless zombie, when they have sex, she say something "all you want was to have sex with me", Hisao stumble backwarts, break his neck and died.
3. Hisao flush Hanakos pills down the toilet, Hanako becomes "normal", suizid on trainstation
Not that anyone will see this, but here's the difference between Doki Doki Literature Club, acclaimed best VN ever, and Katawa Shoujo, acclaimed best VN ever, is each form it contradicts the formula.
Doki Doki literally bends the story onto you and tells you that you can't truly love VN characters.
Katawa shows you that you can love anyone, no matter their appearance or disabilities.
I love both of these VNs, but when it comes to love, Katawa showed me its okay to love those who are not normal, and to love myself, even if I'm not normal.
doki doki is not even close to being the best vn, good game, but nowhere near katawa shoujo
@@luisvaldes5206
Exactamente.
Doki Doki is more like a deconstruction of the typic and cliche visual novel
One of the best things about Katawa Shoujo is that it portrayed the characters as just normal teens that are simply dealing with a disability and it's related issues. No shoving an agenda or virtue signaling. Plus the characters are relatable / likeable
completed KS today. Hanako's route was the final one i needed. imma spoil a bit of the plot for her route, there's your warning.
Hanako's good ending. So many feels came from that scene. Especially when Hisao's love confession pops up. The two of them pouring their souls out to each other is extremely affecting as they tear down the hypothetical walls they had built to hide themselves from each other. The raw emotion of the scene combined with the simple melody of "Innocence" brings on the tears, too.
The most touching part of the route is in the final image, where Hanako's scars are facing away from the camera, and towards the people in the background, all of whom are staring. Not only that, but the looks they give aren't "Oh wow, someone is actually kissing the scarred girl?!" but rather "Daawww, that's so romantic!" from the girls (including Molly, who seems to be very happy about it), and "Man, how am I gonna match that?" from the guy.
In 2023 i still remember playing this game in 2020 man it's was an beutyfull and painfull experience
This is one of the best songs in the game. Each time I listen it, the feelings around her history emerges with a sad nostalgic way but, then I remember the good end, and I feel very very nice. That's the way I feel each time I hear againg this one and other KS themes.
Best game I've played in a while. Though hardly a game. I felt I could connect with the main character. I have nver cried while watching a movie, playing a game, or reading a book. This was the first I have ever cried for a game/graphic novel.
Three words, "Clannad After Story"
It'd be a very long ride, however, finishing the Muv Luv series (Extra, Unlimited, Alternative) has much more of an impact than Katawa Shoujo.
Two words: Angel Beats
One list; three words: Feels, rustled, onion.
FamishedPants You and Draconis are both fuckers D: why'd you have to remind me of Muv-Luv and Clannad ;_;
Oh god not this one. Not this music. Not this picture. Please no, I don't think my heart can take it ;-;
Hanako's route was the first route I played and I remember this scene (the one after the panic attack and she's on the bed crying) more clearly than any other scene barring the bad end. The feels ;-;
Music is so powerful.
I got the "decent" ending and the second I did I started spamming my scroll shill to go back to the last decision I made lol
I did Hanako first as well (unless Kenji die roof yay counts as well) And the first time i got the bad ending. I was SO relived when i remembered i saved just before the second last decision.
“My heart cant take it”
Lol
I was planning on playing through again for the other girls, but I can't possibly romance anyone else knowing Hanako is suffering without Hisao.
I'm still drawn to Hanako more than the others. She's too much of who I used to be and too much of who I still am for it to be otherwise.
Can't believe it's been two years since I first played this game. I had no idea what I was getting myself into. I'd just gone through a rough break-up at the time, so playing KS tore my fucking heart out. And yet, it was oddly therapeutic, too -- kind of cathartic. Like all the pain and pent-up sadness just came out in a great deluge.
I listen to this two years later and it still leaves me with a heavy heart. To think that something I downloaded as a joke could have such an impact on me -- now that's serendipity. Beautiful music, beautiful character, beautiful game.
You are OG, my man
Its been 7 years now. U alright man?
Who put these tears here
Earlier today, I brushed my arm against a pizza stone that spent around 10 minutes in 450F degree heat. Now, about 45 minutes after the incident, it still stings. +Hanako Ikezawa, I feel a newfound sympathy for you. I can't imagine this minor burn pain spread across my body like your accident.
damn ninjas cutting onions in the ceiling.
"I....I will..... I will save you from despair"
My thoughts the entire time.
I finished this route and felt so empty... The feels are so real with Hanako ;_; She'll be in that part of my heart for days, months, years.
This god damn game man... ruined me for days ;_;
I get your feelings. Over the last couple of days I've made it past 4 stories, having _just_ finished lilly's good ending, and have 2 other characters to go. I feel emotionally busted. A marathon of these.. I'm still picking up broken pieces of my manhood from around my floor ;)
Thor Pedersen Oh hey past self, you should look forward to Rin's story arch. I know she seemed weird, unrelatable and distant, of which was why you postponed her story until only that one remained. But trust me, the writers made a good job at bridging those gaps. Her story is more than worth it going through, and in a way more realistic than the others.
That is funny: I mentally said "me too" when I read your comment, and then discovered afterwards I replied with the same sentiment 4 years ago. I hope this takes you back too.
Kinda hard to believe that a game like this came from 4chan
To be honest, Hanako was the only story to make me tear up. And it was this scene. When she made the comment about not being as pretty as Lilly (which is the way she feels, but isn't true) and opening up to Hisao, just "felt" so much combined with this music. She has a wonderful personality, although blocked away by being so shy. I also don't just blame Hisao for that scene. Hisao loves Hanako, and Hanako obviously loves him too, with what happened the next day, Hanako even admits she wanted that (if Hisao had admitted his love for her the next morning, it would have been better for both), but both people's personal issues prevent them from what they want to say most.
Hanako answering makes this comment even better.
Gizmo Blini I felt good when I saw that reply. 😃
This tune speaks: Of sadness but acceptance, of missing loved ones but how life goes on
One can easily say, it is not Hanako's body which is burned, but her very soul.
This game has had so much positive impact in my life, and it's only been a few days since I finished it.
Same
Same
Wassup. It's been over a month since I finished this game. To be frank, I kinda got over the girls. It's like, I've taken them for who they are, fictional characters and nothing more. But the impact is still there, I would say. Still a good game, but not the best ever.
@@saadmanomar7754 Still impacted? When i first played this game a couple months ago i spent like a week or two coping with the fact that i will never have a girl like Lily or Hanako then moved on like i always do
@@butteredpooper7750 They sure had some perma positive impacts in my life. But, I have moved on mostly. They did teach me a lot, though. And I am grateful to them for that.
The real lesson from Hanako's route is that you don't need to "fix" someone who is "broken", you just have to be there and support them while they heal on their own pace.
The game conveys beyond all happiness, nostalgia, sadness. I could say it's a perfect game this song us this song shows us the sad story of hanako and the intention of wanting to help her, without a doubt one of the best routes , my sincere thanks to the director who is no longer with us but I leave us a gem of a visual novel, thanks for all katawa shoujo ❤️
YES INDEED, THE GAME IS A MASTER PIECE
I love it for the third time playing it
the sad thing the creator has passed away. But we will never forget what he left for us ❤️ RIP
i got so attached to her good ending to the point all other endings didn't hit me as hard
i want to look into the minds of whoever composed these soundtracks and try and figure out how the fuck they managed to make thousands of people cry
Man i played this vn i didn't know what was it about heard of it through a UA-cam comment so i did know it was an eroge but the comment also mentioned that it is a very emotional vn let me tell you I never played a vn before this (i am 22) so i wasn't expecting what i got.
My first play thorough the moment i encountered hanako in library made it final which girl i am choosing so i did choose the options which i thought would led me to her but i ended up doing emi's route it was quite nice definitely the best for main character's health as he was quite fit by the end of emi's route.It was emotional sometimes annoying but good.
This time i was adamant getting hanako's quite there was a certain mystery to her character and it struck me that she is probably the most tragic and innocent character in game (looking at those eyes and her demeanor and all).Oh man it was a ride it exceeded all my expectations i am not a very emotional person but the time she mentioned the accident in library and practically forced her to inform hisao about her past got me i had tears in my eyes as the story went further and she had that panic attack in classroom it was just too real it made me feel so sorry for her and then when lily and mc visited her room and the realisation that she was crying in her room made me wonder just how many nights that this girl cried herself to sleep.
The ending was absolutely a masterpiece i do wish that it should have been longer but hey i was satisfied,and the last part where she just basically said she never wanted a saviour only a friend and i realised how the main character was treating her like a doll not an actual person a doll so fragile (this was mentioned) that it might break just aftera mere touch she hated pity to her it was a fake emotion she despised and the way mc and lily acted made her feel she was being pitied but for them she accepted that....mannn it has ben a long time since i typed this much for a youtube comment but seriously the character writing was so good that i couldn't bring myself to play any other route after hanako's i tried but just when the library scene came i just couldn't it felt like cheating
I know some people say that she had a better ending in lily's route i don't agree with them to me this was the best ending as nakai said that she can change and she is already changing gives it away that she will improve socially and become more outgoing and trusting not to mention her route was shorter than lily's so it proves she can improve and with hisao by her side that would be an easier job.
Katawa shoujo isn't a vn it's a beautiful and emotional experience
To the people reading this AGREE WITH LILY......el psy kongroo
Where did you see the comment that recommended you the vn?
@@charmeleon0540 iirc i found the comment about this vn on a channel which i often watch named Natalie x hunter,she makes videos about re zero and other anime.There was this video where she described her experience with a vn called euphoria which is considered pretty let's say explicit and disturbing adult vn she was saying that it was a different experience so there was this comment with time stamp saying how katawa shoujo basically changed him as a person and it was very impactful basically describing for a dating sim it was something different i never played a vn before so i searched it up and it was free and rest is described in my original comment
Katawa Shoujo finally made me cry.
A couple tears dropped as I was listening to this.
....And then the floodgates opened as I realized how much this song fit me nowadays.
-Thankfully/Sadly-
I hope I never meet a Hanako in real life because as much as I love her character I hope no one goes through what this fictional soul has faced... yet knowing this world someone like her exist and unlike the game she/he may not have a Good Ending.
I know someone who got raped twice then she had a miscarriage and then her husband broke up with her, then she suicide :)
" :) "
Harpistry VGM Orchestra ROFL!!
Harpistry VGM Orchestra ikr
@@OneShotMan222 What is this world we live in....
*HNNG*.exe has stopped working.
+Amir Butcher /heart attack/
I just finished Hanako's story and I'm running low on tissues, its surprising how attached you get to the characters and how deep the story is for each character. Its not raunchy and even though its fiction you cant help but feel SOMETHING for each girl as their story unfolds.
Not sure how many people still come by to visit this haha, but I just went back to play KS again. Hanako's route was my first, and to this day I can't play any others, it kinda feels wrong haha. I'm so happy that they made something so amazing and emotional. I'm just so grateful that I get to come back to this over and over again through the years.
100%, i cant play any of the other routes without it feel like cheating on hanako, she needs hisao and taking that away from her feels so evil
@@moooyoda7086 If you do Lilly's route, you can see that she still ends up okay
I went for the fap, but stayed for the emotion.
Hanako route will always have a special place in my heart
jesus, hanako's route was my favorite route. her personality drew me in tbh, she seemed shy yet so sweet at the same time. as the story progressed and whenever I would see hanako begin to cry I couldn't help but start saying "no, please don't cry" as if she really existed. funny part was whenever the protagonist was like "she's just a friend, its not like any things going to happen" I wanted to say "shut the hell up, she is your waifu you fuck" though the ending got to me the most (I got the good end) just AHHH, I was left at the edge of my seat like "what? that cant possibly be it, I refuse to accept this!" and force these feels I thank katawa shoujo.
The big problem is Hisaou, at times, acts as though he is as dumb as driveway gravel. Plus a few scenes could have been done better (esp the H scene for type and timing). Overall, Hanako is actually the most likeable character / one you could relate to and someone you could (if she were irl) really fall in love with.
Shadow Sonata yep, I agree with everything you just said! Hisao acted very dumb at times and it is in fact true that a few of the scenes could have been written a bit better or better paced
It's interesting how we almost never hear this in the game. We hear the other girls' themes from the second they pop up on the screen, but this song only plays a couple of times.
This song not only plays a small amount of times, but also only plays when Hanako is in pain/distress
I just thought of the weirdest question ever, considering Hanako is a visual novel character: If Hanako herself heard this theme, would she think it was beautiful, or would she hate how sad it sounded? I find it's actually hard to say which way she would go. Who knows; maybe she'd feel a bit of both. Find it really beautiful even while hating how sad it sounds. Anyone else got thoughts on this?
diggerwillis1
She'd probably wonder why the heck she even had fans in the first place! ;P After that initial "okay- what the heck?" thought though, she'd probably have mixed feelings about it.... hm. I dunno what she would think, how she would feel about it. Maybe it would make her happy. Then again.... hm, I guess it would depend on what part of her path you told her at. Start story Hanako is a totally different person from end story Hanako (referring to her best path only here).
RadiantDarkBlaze .
I don't know about you, but no matter what the circumstances I wouldn't be thrilled to find out I'm a girl in a VN. It would mean A. an unavoidable destiny no matter which end you get, and B. that you don't even get to be the main character in your own life. Aside from that it also means everyone is projecting their feelings onto you, and if we're talking about Hisao, is means the guy you love is an empty vessel for people of varying levels of desirability, none of whom you've met (seriously, it's kind of like having thousands of stalkers take over your love interest. Why would you like that?)
Heh, mm, that's one way to look at it I guess. I personally don't think of it that way though. If you consider the world that Hisao lives in to be separate from ours, then the game is merely a window to let us see but a small sample of the different parallel timelines that world has. I don't see Hisao as an embodiment of the 1000s of stalkers in this world, I see him as a character that all of the timelines that the game happens to give us a window into happen to revolve around. Or, at the very least, the game just insists on mostly always showing us his viewpoint. We just get to choose which timeline we want to see- I don't see it as the player making the choices for Hisao.
There could easily be a re-imagination of the game where say, you see the events from Hanako's POV and see her thoughts, and see some of the timelines from her perspective, see what effects her different possible thoughts at any given moment could have on the events in that world. There just isn't anything like that yet so we don't have any windows into any of those timelines yet. Maybe something like that will be made in the future, maybe nothing like that will ever made. Probably more likely that it won't ever be made unfortunately.
As for if it were like how you seem to think of it, yeah, that wouldn't exactly be a pleasant experience to find out you're a character in a game like this one. No real control over your destiny, probably not being the main character of your own life or if you are then well you're probably actually practically a hollow vessel that 1000s upon 1000s of people from some other world are projecting their feelings into.... just plain not pleasant for any of the characters really, not even the main character. That's why I prefer to view it my way rather than your way. I don't want to think it could ever be possible for anyone to ever be controlled by anyone but themselves, whatever world they're from.
.... Me and my habit of leaving long comments. That one was potentially quite confusing to boot. If you're still not 100% clear on how I view things then please feel free to ask away if you want.
RadiantDarkBlaze .
No, it was perfectly clear, and to be quite honest I'm far from immune from leaving long-winded posts myself, so I certainly can't complain about yours.
I see where you're coming from. I guess the way I interpreted it was "finding out I'm part of a game". If we're just talking about invented worlds then of course we're only seeing a small part of it and a really well-made character (like Hanako and many of the other characters) can and should be able to be put in new situations and act according to their character without you needing to think too hard (the idea of "characters coming to life" that lots of authors talk about). That's a perfectly valid and reasonable way of looking at it. It just depends on what foundation you're thinking from (i.e. are we talking about another reality in an abstract sense or keeping it limited to the concept of "being fiction/a game"). I don't think either way of looking at it is really a bad one.
And you went further with the way I posited in a way I hadn't thought of... kind of like a combination of The Matrix and Twitch Plays Pokemon... it doesn't at all sound like a pleasant world to live in. But it would probably make for an interesting story premise!
Okay, well, if we're both prone to leaving long comments I guess we're good, lol. ;) Glad to hear I somehow made that make perfect sense. :)
I kind of want to get into writing myself, become an author, because even just randomly out of the blue sometimes an idea for a character pops into my head. An idea for a story pops into my head. Even when I'm just sitting there doing nothing, not trying to think of any one thing in particular. And those ideas I come up with often seem good. Only trouble is that rarely ever happens while I'm actually trying to write. Either way though, I think I can understand the idea of a really well-made character coming to life.
.... Sorry to inform you I'm not into either The Matrix or Twitch Plays Pokemon. Those references are lost on me. I'll.... take your word for it? That what I was saying was something like a combination of the two? I think I've heard of both before at least, I've just never watched any of either of them.
Why does THIS have to play during the H-scene...
Still an incredibly beautiful track, and it captures the way Hanako feels really well. If you regret your existence because of things that happened in the past, it's pretty painful.
Moment of extreme variability, something she would never do for anyone else, she opened up in the most romantic way possible. How do immediately dismiss it as cheap if you read her story? No mental maturity all
@@jtamiing559 Seven years later, I have a much better grasp of it.
Самая красивая мелодия во всей игре, как по мне
Она вже стала моя любимая
Here comes the depression train choo choooo...
Happy Birthday, Hanako. Happy birthday..
Today is also her birthday, 10/07/24, I love you Hanako 💜
@@ButterflyTimeless ya
The single-most emotionally powerful song I have ever heard after playing this game. Also one of the most Heart-wrenching scenes ever, now I know how Hisao got Arrhythmia.
Hanako's arch made me have all of the feels. All of them.
Don't know the game nor what it's about, only know this one "WHAT ARE THOSE!!??" Emi meme, but it's quite a strange feeling seeing people so touched and inspired by it.
Thank you for your work Raide, Godspeed.
Definitely try this game. It's really got the feels.
It's really funny, how this girl makes you want to protect her, when that's what she hates most. I think while Hisao needed to learn not to white knight for her, Hanako, similarly to Emi, needed to learn that being there for someone and wanting to empower them doesn't mean you pity them.
Its one of those rare visual novels that I want to see turned into an anime.
Beautiful character. And the last chapter.
i did hanako's route first. the tears welled up on two occasions for me:
1) when she cried in her bed
2) when she showed her true self to hisao
already done shizune and currently doing emi's,,, however im abit conflicted when its time to do lily's route, coz u know hanako's going to be there.... aarrgghh
note: when im reading through hanako's dialogue, i imagine saori hayami's voice.
wow i think im going through the same route order as you. did hanako, shizune so far, and i plan to do emi then rin and save lilly for last. I cried those two times as well as the ending when she breaks down crying......
Want to know why I love Hanako? When you can see the girl beneath the scars, you'll see why.
Come on everyone, there's no problem with crying. It shows that you're human. The idea of someone hurting this much makes you tear up shows that you're a good person who would never want someone to feel the way this song is making you feel. It's not the lack of tears that show strength, but rather the lack of fear in showing them that shows you're truly strong.
I fear no man
but that..thing?
[Hanako Bad Ending]
It scares me
Если я когда либо потеряю память, покажите мне katawa
I-I shouldn't b-be listening to this...
Your just fine. Your route's good ending is the game's true ending in my opinion
Can I be your friend?
Okay, you're my new favorite account.
I love you
Is it odd that I see someone different then who you are all seeing?
Who still appreciates this masterpiece of a game and soundtrack? I certainly do.
Me
*sigh* I miss this game. I wish I could erase all my memories from playing it only so I can experience it all for a first time again...
When i hear Hanako's Theme.
* Hhhhnnnnggg... *
As for her sex scene...she never said no, but she never said yes either. Hisao should have realized that and stopped himself. And he had no idea what the hell he was doing, which made one particular part even more painful to read.
Though if ya think about it, she seemed quite happy after. Wasn't like she was totally against it while they were doing it, she was the one who leaned back for it. I know she may have felt pressured in some way as well. But what happened beforehand, Hanako showing Hisao her scars, was soooo sweet...
I think the biggest thing to realize is that, in my opinion, had she not met Lilly, she probably would have killed herself. People with suicidal thoughts or tendencies think that they are worthless, and actually try to push people away, become complacent, and wait for the right time when they think the world stops looking at them. Lilly saved a beautiful life, but not without a cost. However worthless Hanako felt before at times became worse. She no longer thought she was worthless (at least not to Lilly) but came to realize she was a burden to those few she cared for, less than nothing. She could not kill herself, yes, but only because it would break their hearts, so instead she just broods on her birthday, wishing she was never even born to cause such trouble to everyone she sees. (It is the reason she freezes every time her birthday is mentioned. She thinks that there is no reason to celebrate such a day in her mind. It is possible the fire happened on that day, but assuming it did not, this provides the only real explanation for such an act). All being alive seemed to do was cause suffering in her eyes; To her mother, Lilly, Hisao, and anyone who recoils instinctively when they see her. After Hisao gives her due space and time to figure it out, she finds that she wants to change all of it and stop being a burden. She realizes how much she needs Hisao and Lilly, and does not want either of them to drift away from her. When Hisao gives her the phone-strap and calls her a friend, she puts an imaginary debt to Hisao in herself, thinking of ways to repay him. She felt if she did not, it would only reinforce how she felt like a burden on him. All this time she thinks that he is her friend, but that she is not his. She means something to him, but she does not see that.
That is why the sex leaves a bad taste and feels weird. It was paid for, in one way or another. Hanako did it because of ulterior motives (She wants you to stay, she does not want you to leave her behind, she knows that Hisao would not think of doing something like that to her, despite wanting to), but not for the act itself. Its like a musician doing a gig to pay rent - even if it is still fun and enjoyable, its less so because it becomes necessary. Yes, to Hanako, showing her scars to him was something she absolutely had to do. The part afterwards where Hisao questions what happens plays on the blurred lines a lot as well, mostly because he is completely oblivious to how Hanako actually feels throughout the entire story. He literally only figures it out on the last scene, when she blurts it out at him that she hated feeling worthless.
That being said, he fulfills her wishes. She finally means something to someone, and that is what matters more to her than anything. She means something; she is no longer worthless, and it is because of him that she no longer is (in her eyes), thus why she now loves Hisao.
I can not come up with an alternative at that point in the story where Hanako willingly has sex with you that doesn't feel any weirder or more uncharacteristic of her, so it all fits in my mind.
Alright. I hadn't played in maybe a few days, so I kinda forgot what she said when she confessed her love for him, so I do see your point on how it wasn't totally sweet as I was thinking. I like the analogy, helps me think about it more and understand it. Feel kinda like I was a bit naive as well. My thoughts have changed on it for one, you explaining this, and that I reread her story on the wiki for a reason I forget. Truly sad though. I find it still at least a bit sweet, although bitter nonetheless, for the reasons you've said. Maybe not sweet is the right word, but not all bitter. Although I'm not totally finished with my second story, I am still thinking Hanako was my favourite. Very sad and touching story, I find it. Thank you though for explaining this quite fully for me as well.
You're welcome. I just kinda wanted to write about it, having completed the game not too long ago myself, letting it stew in my mind (How else did I end up on this video?).
It's not the most bitter story in there, surprisingly. I mean, in the end, she really does love Hisao. That kiss, as she said, was her chance to give her first gift to him, and she said she had wanted to do it for weeks (I assume after the phone strap). It was mostly Hisao's trepidation and lack of getting a clue about how Hanako feels that made it so weird. It was pretty much his fault they did not fall in love any sooner. As I said before, though, I find the story befitting the characters.
I say this because, if Hisao was not as clueless, this would have easily been my favorite route (Though I think Hanako might be my favorite character). I find it about third on my list. Hope you like all the other ones; the game does not hold any punches.
Oh, cool! Okay, huh. I'm doing Shizune now, and it is definitely not as bitter or anything so far, but I am liking it. Yes, I do agree with that. I think I agree with that it may not be the best route, but I find Hanako my favourite character. I'm doing Lilly after Shizune probably, and it seems she also has a very good route, at least to a large amount of UA-cam comments. I have a feeling Rin's will have some interesting turnabouts, then my friend told me about Emi's, and that it was really just very sweet. Thank you, again! It's nice having these discussions. :)
man when a fucking character's theme is called "painful history" you know that they'll bring some immense feels along with their route
Hanako 🥲🥹❤
I can honestly say that Hanako has motivated me to become a psychiatrist. The world and people are a scary enough on their own that becoming mean can cause those of us who are alone too much pain. Im not becoming a psychiatrist to "fix" broken people. But to help them stand up on their own. Thank you hanako for giving my life direction just like you did for hisao. I know you arent a real person, but i wish you the best and hope you find happiness with hisao.
Doing Hanako´s Route at last makes me think: "Best route for last"
Song: (starts playing)
Game: (casually rip player heart out)
My favorite route from this game and hanako my favorite girl :)
one of my (internet) friends said i was edgy for having this song on loop after hearing the title.
what if i could make them play this game then listen to this on loop after at least playing hanako route
I’d love to fall in love with Hanako. She truly is my favorite KS love interest.
So I haven't listened to any of these songs for about a week, and hearing this for the first time in a while actually made me go numb
I'm the most sad person on earth right now for 2 things
first the creator of the game has passed away we will not see another great VN like katawa Shoujo RIP
the second for not having any tears left in my eyes right now after I have finished all routes for the third time the most VN can make your day the story it's outstanding for me at least. There's a lot of people who got some bad day or bad year And they have everything they need in life to survive BUT
WE DO NOT FEEL SATISFIED. look at those people who has disability's in there life's and they going forward but us who had a lot and not having an issue with ourselves having a good body and health at least and
we do not feel satisfied with our lives what are we In front of them
. . . .
anyway great music so good for the game the art is good I don't have to much too say now I have said
what I have to say . :)
It's already been 6 years and just the start of this song has me in tears, the heart never forgets.
Well i finished the game today and started playing it two weeks ago. I started basically playing it normally but the girls that i liked are lilly and hanako. But damn, hanako’s path was literally an emotional rollercoaster. Imma spoil a bit the path:
Damn from where i would start! From how their interactions at the start were basically small talks and hanako couldn’t talk to hisao honestly only until she knew that he treats her as a human being and not some fragile doll. The scene where she basically told her entire past and the song with it stabbed my heart and shattered it into a million pieces. The interaction with hisao in the end at the park made me see in the end that everyone has their own thing that happened to them and can’t control it. I have diabetes and i coped with it because it didn’t leave me hopeless since there’s options like insulin and all. Yet an emotional scar caused by an incident that she couldn’t control at all that’s in another level of its own 😢😢😢.
Hanako best girl. Thank you 4 leaf studio for making this game.
After finishing all the paths I was left with one realization, the best path for Hanako wasn't with Hisao it was when he was with Lily and Hanako started to become a journalist. An odd take some might think though Hanako seemed to become more outgoing and confident in herself during the Lily route.
“I remembered the fox. One runs the risk of crying a bit if one allows oneself to be tamed.”
― Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, The Little Prince
I'm tamed
I can't bring myself to do Hanako's bad ending
I just can't.
For some reason that's my favorite ending.
Same, I decided I won't see it at all.
I'm struggling with the motivation to do her route in general because I'm afraid i'll get horrible High School flashbacks (Running out of class when overwhelmed crying on the stairs over by my Computer Programming Class a few times due to a recently developed for 2017-18 Social Anxiety Disorder)
Her "bad" ending may actually have been a good one for her. She finally stands up for herself, after the PC has been white knighting her (something she despises). From the teachers to Lilly (who even admits she treated Hanako like a surrogate daughter, and it was a mistake) and now Hisaou, she finally had enough. The worst thing is, even after she said that being pitied was even worse than bullying, he did it anyway.
That moment when she places her hand on hisaos chest and feels his scar. The feelings that both characters can relate to each other based upon the pain the they went through and will have scars that will stay with each of them forever. In my opinion I see kindred spirits.
Yep, I still get glassy eyed listening to this song. It's been so long too and it still holds my heart.