Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 in Koblenz.
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305 am 2.4..2019 in Koblenz.
Weil hier viele gefragt haben.
Dieses Koblenz liegt in der Schweiz im Kanton Aargau, dirkekt am Rhein, gegenüber der deutschen Stadt Waldshut-Tiengen.
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In Koblenz kreuzen sich die Strecken Waldshut - Turgi und Bülach - Basel und es liegt nur wenige 100m von der im Jahre 1859 eröffneten Rheinbrücke entfernt.
Ich habe hier noch ein zweites kurzes Video von diesem Krokodil:
• Krokodil Ce 6/8 III 14305
Schön zu sehen das sich um dieses Monstrum noch immer so liebevoll gekümmert wird. Schönste Lok für mich persönlich die es auf der Welt gibt!
The production "Crocodiles" were the series SBB Ce 6/8 II and SBB Ce 6/8 III locomotives of the SBB, Swiss Federal Railways, built between 1919 and 1927. There were 33 class Ce 6/8 II and 18 class Ce 6/8 III, making a total (excluding the prototype) of 51 locomotives. These locomotives were developed for pulling heavy goods trains on the steep tracks of the Gotthardbahn from Lucerne to Chiasso, including the Gotthard Tunnel.
The electric motors available at the time were large and had to be body-mounted above the plane of the axles, but flexibility was required to negotiate the tight curves on the Alpine routes and tunnels. An articulated design, with two powered nose units bridged with a pivoting center section containing cabs and the heavy transformer, met both requirements and gave excellent visibility from driving cabs mounted safely away from any collision. The two motors in each nose unit were geared to a jackshaft between the drive axles farthest from the cab, with side rods carrying the power to the drivers. These locomotives, sometimes called the "Swiss Crocodile" or "SBB Crocodile", were highly successful and served until the 1980s. The German model railway manufacturer Märklin published a book about their history in 1984.] Several are still in operation as preserved historical locomotives.
what was its top speed?
@@RenaissancePeopleNYC According to the Wikipedia article, from which Jason Wilson's information is pasted, the top speed is 75 kph (47 mph). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_%28locomotive%29
Here is the Austrian crocodile, OBB class 1189, built in the late 1920s. I believe 18 were built.
ua-cam.com/video/cUybQlfc4Uw/v-deo.html
Do you know the weight of each motor, their physical size and HP rating?
@@marcconyard5024 Look on Online Wikipedia, there's lots more good information there. .
This is a fine example of an outstanding locomotive. It looks like they just outshopped her.
Des trains très nobles comme nous les avons toujours aimés ...les gares étaient aussi des bijoux et des zones logistiques qui ont contribué au décloisonnement et au développement de nombreuses régions éloignées et peu desservies par le réseau routier.
Merci pour ces vidéos qui valorisent et rappellent le beau patrimoine ferroviaire.
That is one of coolest locomotives I have ever seen. Sounds a bit like a steamer
justly famous class. I'm only a bit over an hour from Koblenz! I need to find out how to know when these veterans are on the road.
You've got the whine of the 4 motors, coupled with the noise from straight-cut gears which varies with the position of the connecting rods
Haettes höher aus steuern müssen, dann hatte nan nur noch kratzen gehoert
they were built in 1919 and used regularly on the Gotthard railway until 1986, they still run like a clock, despite only being museumpieces now..... try that with todays electronic tupperwares on wheels:)
Schöne Filmaufnahmen mit dokumentarischen Wert. Es ist ja nicht gerade täglich, dass ein Gotthard-Krokodil im Ruhestand sich in Koblenz zeigt! :)
Very good video, but nowhere can I find one of 'under the covers' of a Krokodil. When restoration is happening, can we see all the internal working layout of the loco with its cowling removed?
I may have answered my own query when I found this
ua-cam.com/video/grCzLBxkkcE/v-deo.html
It would still be great for enthusiasts to see hatches opened and covers removed - where possible of course.
Wunderschöne Lok. Sehr schön gefilmt. Super
Ich mochte diese Lok schon immer, ich weiß nicht warum aber irgendwas hat sie, sie schaut einfach cool aus! Vielleicht weil sie mit den Pleuel ein bißchen was von einer Dampflok hat.
Ein Wahnsinnsteil die Lok, einfach herrlich anzusehen.👍
Sehr schön alte gute Maschinen. Das ist eine schöne Erlebnis. Danke schön Ihnen.
These locomotives were operational in India till the mid 90s, mostly worked in DC traction. In their last years these locos were mainly used for shunting.
That is ONE kool looking Engine, wish I had the resources to travel to see this kind of stuff ,but content to sit here and watch on this internet
Nice locomotive, in India such type of locomotive available generally and nickname was "Crab' class WCG1
Nicknamed kekda ....used in the Igatpuri ghats till the mid 1980s atleast
Sir Leslie Wilson is what it was called by GIP. Ive seen it shunting trains in the Dadar CR rail yard.
Un vrai chef d'oeuvre technologique cette locomotive avec double motorisation et double cabine de conduite
So cool!!! 👍👍👍👍
Nicht nur eine Traum Lok auch ein perfekt gedrehtes Video,,,danke
Those huge links that connect electric motor to driven wheels make very sweet sound. I wonder why they were needed?
Erstaunlich, dass es nicht möglich war so eine Qualität damals in Deutschland zu bauen einfach ein Kunstwerk :-)
Was heißt hier 'nicht möglich' - es war nicht nötig ! ! -- AU WEIA !!
Danke für das schöne Video ich besitze genau diese Lok mit der Nummer in Spur 1
Was für eine tolle Lokomotive.
It’s not like England, nobody hanging out of the coaches talking pictures. Noisy old thing. Thanks for sharing.
No, they usually get out, but there is no platform on this track and there were several trains on the other tracks at the same time.
Für mich schönste el. Lokomotive!
Ich liebe das! Inspiriert meine Krokodil und die alte Blechwagen bon Märklin wie hier fahren zu lassen!
Wow, that's so unusual construction is like hybrid of steam and electrical locomotive on the down of electrification
What a beautiful beast!
OMG As an English boy and man I have always been amazed at this Loco on how Powerful it Looks. It's just Perfect.
Has it ever ran Quirtly ?
Awesome piece of machinery. That one is the Märklin model I always wanted...
Same here. .
when i was a kid growing up in münich my rich cousin had a layout i think it was ho...and he had one ! it looked so odd and attractive at the same time
.but i remember thinking (about 7 years old)..what a smart design !! it goes both ways and always looks the part lol (and its electric !!..most were stream then ( circa 1959 or so )..fond memorys ! and this station and ambiance remains unchanged ..i love that aspect ..cheers
Are you me. ;w;
The model from the other video seems more realistic than the real thing
I would love this to visit the UK, a showstopper if ever there was one!
huch, ich dachte schon ich wäre im falschen Film: ...Koblenz?
Aber stimmt, in der Schweiz, direkt an der Grenze zu Deutschland gibt es ja auch noch ein Koblenz.
Ich dachte ursprünglich an das deutsche Koblenz an Rhein und Mosel.
....einfach nur herrschaftlich und erhaben, das 🇨🇭🐊!
It looks like a marriage of the wheels of a pair of light 2-6-0 steam locomotives powered by two electric motors driving the wheels by jack-shafts.
The locomotive is not articulated, or it would be somewhat like a Beyer-Garratt.
It is in immaculate condition for a locomotive shortly to celebrate it's Centenary (if it hasn't already done so).
It is articulated. The two end sections can turn a few degrees relatively to the center section. Otherwise it would never have been able to pass the 360-degree tunnels on the Gotthard Line for which it was built. But it is magnificent indeed, including the humming sounds of the drive pinions 🤗
Fascinating locomotive!
A well maintained Shunting Loco like our WDS series in Indian Railways
Спасибо 👍😀
Es gibt wohl mehr als ein Koblenz ? Das ist definitiv nicht Koblenz am Rhein ?
Ja, es gibt mehrere Koblenz.
Und dieses Koblenz liegt auch am Rhein. Allerdings in der Schweiz am Hochrhein, zwischen Basel und Schaffhausen, gegenüber der deutschen Stadt Waldshut.
Hier verbindet die erste Rheinbrücke aus dem Jahre 1859 das deutsche und schweizerische Schienennetz.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rheinbr%C3%BCcke_Waldshut%E2%80%93Koblenz
Danke Gerhard!
Beautiful video! 👍👍👍
Crocodile Loco, there are others Loco nickname, "centipede" and "shark"
And don't forget Alco's RSD-15 "Alligators"
Sehr schön 👍👍👍
This makes Swiss children go to bed early
Бомбический крокодил👍👍👍👍👍👍🐊
Why does that thing have wheels like a steamer? Sorry I have no idea about trains but I've never seen such thing like that before
장우석 The drive wheel is not touching the tracks. It transfers power to the other drive wheels using the rods. Keep in mind that the electric motor is almost 100 years old. Very high torque and slow speed. It’s so large that it sits above the axles.
@@imaginekarma8582 so the motors were too large to power each wheels(like more recent ones)?
장우석 correct. This train only has 4 motors. Each one drives 3 wheels in each corner. The Wikipedia page has all its info.
Wow thank you so much :)
Wunderschöne Lok! Gibt es auch in Deutschland die Chance, sie mal live zu sehen?
warum in Deutschland und nicht nach den Schweiz gehen?
Он же на 1000 Вольт был рассчитан.Сейчас такое напряжение скорее всего нигде не применяется.Он был доработан под более высокое напряжение?
Андрей Андрей ну, могли намодить, но всё равно круто же
@@Hoshikani Несомненно
Трансформатор поставили и поехал?
@@gatoelnegro Я перепутал оказывается. Они выпускались на 7 кВ и более поздние модификации на 15 кВ.
Хотя это теперь уже тоже нестандартное напряжение для железных дорог.
@@АндрейАндрей-к1д6ф ясно
Welp... this is now my new favorite train
Sid Meyer's Railroad Tycoon flashback
Вот это механизм!
First of all thank you utube for give us a advertising free video.
2:35 sounds like its saying vittu
Wow well remarked, actually sounds like a group of men saying that indeed
1:26 思ったよりも加速が良いな。南海のＥＤ５1０１を大きくしたようで格好良い。
Very cute loco...
Die hab ich noch als Märklin liegen:D
What a strange looking locomotive
Стимпанк электровоз! К нему и вагоны соответствующие
Nice Old Days...
wow!
Top Video
*ONLY video I could find that didn't have stupid MUSIC playing over it or other trains running in front of it so you could not see it or hear it!*
what a great machine!! :-o
Hallo,
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Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Fabian
🐊
It sounds like two lumberjacks sawing logs.
👍🏻🙂👍🏻
СУПЕР!
Superrrrrrr gép! !!!
Lol так это электровоз или паровоз?
boris pesenson ну если пантограф есть, то что это?
WOW!!
日本人おる？
Lol der Zug 14305 ist genau mein Geburtsdatum
-cE6/814305-
Locomotoras rumanas diesel
Electricity enters the Steam Age!
servus
Angenehme ruhige Kameraführung, nur Originalton (keine störende Musik) , detailreich. Sehr schön ! Danke für's Hochladen.
Looks like a cousin to the Pennsylvania L5, good to see the older stuff well maintained and running.
I've just googled Pennsylvania L5, I see the close family likeness!
Boxpok Except this one will always be better because it’s swiss
The *Pennsylvania L5* is actually a direct technological descendant of the *Crocodile.* The Swiss pioneered electrical locomotives and *Crocodile* was first built in 1919 in Switzerland by a consortium that included Brown Boveri. Brown Boveri was later seminal in the building of the *Pennsylvania L5* - first built in 1924 in the US.
www.swissmint.ch/e/aktuell/neuheiten/krokodil.php
closer to a GG1
01:47: The mask from the "Scream" motion picture...
LOL! That took me a minute.
the blue loc just to the right?? big eyes, big mouth?
@@boristhebarbarian Yes.
Now that's a beast! :-o One is not quite sure whether he's looking at an electric or a steam locomotive. :-)
PontiacCZ it’s electric
I can see why they called this Crocodile, it does look like one with its snout like (what I assume to be) engine covers
No engines, just big transformers and switch gear. Same difference really though.
@@herpnderpn2484 I'm sorry, but you're wrong. The electric motors and the drive are placed in both "snouts", the middle section carrys the transformer.
Here is an description:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)
Hello Macintoshiba, that's right. In both front sections are motors and drive, in the middle part is the transformer.
Please have a look at this description: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocodile_(locomotive)
Wow! This is a legend!!
Superb! Very very very good video and sound ! Great!
Greetings from Zagreb / Croatia
Looks so classical.
And the motor sound is so nice‼️
I like how it sounds a bit like a steamer at a distance
蒸気機関車の音に似ていますね！ (*^-^)ﾆｺ
Sari Sumdac
First time,I can't make sense why the sound bit steamer.
But,here well the sound sometimes same as steam loco because they are rod drive both.
For me I like the sound for nose suspention drive (I'm not sure the expression is right.
In Japanese "吊り掛け式〈Tsurikake-siki〉).
Yea,it's sound nostalgic‼️😊👍
yosidakayo さん。
実は上のSari Sumdacさんと同じこと言われてて、電気と蒸気と違うのに何で⁉️
と思ってたんですが、
なるほど‼️
確かに“シュッシュッ“という音そうですよね⁉️
多分両方ともピストン式のロッド（車輪に付いてる長い棒）で動くのがそう聞こえるのかも知れませんね。😊
私は、スタートの時の重低音から段々上がっていく“吊り掛け式“独特のモーターの音の事を言ってたのですが、二人のコメント見て新たなポイントに気づきました。
ありがとうございました。😊
I did not think these Still Existed❤️Beautiful Locos 💕Thats what I love about Continental Railways.
Fascinating locomotive! I always liked its design.
When I was a kid I had a Marklin set - this is one of the locomotives that was in their catalog that I coveted.
Super film of a truly unusual vehicle. Enjoyed it immensely.
There is one on display at National Rail Museum in New Delhi. This was one of the earliest and served the Mumbai (Bombay) area. Our previous generation saw it in action but we missed the show. Thanks for uploading it, at least I could get the idea of how it might have operated here in India
Schön!! Danke sehr!
Wow, even though it looks a bit old-fashioned but very powerful, it's probably one of the rarest in the world
What a magnificent locomotive. Well maintained.
We used to have larger versions of these on 1500V DC in India. Now as museum piece only as we have 25000 V AC traction.
Nice!! I used to use this all the time on Trainz 12
i run a fleet of these on Transport Fever 2
Same here bro. I came from that Swiss campaign mission..
По звуку наша электричка до мытищ!
Только крокодил производился в 1920е. А наша электричка...
а весь звук из пары прямозубых шестерен.
was für ein wunderschöner anblick diese lok doch ist, da geht mir als tf (im güterverkehr) das herz auf und ich habe ein lächeln von ohr zu ohr im gesicht! wow ...
I felt my grandfather's spirit just watching the video.
Krokodil zerr gut e-lok!!!
Das war noch Qualität 👍😊 die heutigen Loks werden sicher nicht solange fahren. LG aus der Zentralschweiz
Came from the Swiss mission in Transport Fever 2..
Cool video....nice work....like & sub from Romania....Thumbs up my friend
Да ладно! Звук на старте как у наших советских ЭР1, ЭР2.
А машина вообще супер!
Мне даже сначала показалось, что у меня на фоне открыто видео с ЭР-кой.