@@johnpaulrodriguez1469 sir/ma'am, I got threatened to be put in a sack and gonna be smack the sh!t out of me while the smoke from a fire under the a hanging sack (where I'm supposed to be in) making me hard to breathe
Despite abby being a character I thought was annoying, each of the girls reminded me of girls who I knew when I was in middle school. It gave me so many moments where I cringed out of sheer embarrassment cause either me or my friends have done things the main characters did. Peak accuracy for middle school girl representation
yesss because this movie is supposed to be cringe cuz it's about a couple of 13 year olds and it can be cringe at some times I I not even 13 yet I just turn 12 but I am as cringe
i think a lot of the whole “this is weird” thing stems from not being able to recall how awkward being a teenager is. imo, turning red executed being a kid SO well. abby’s “annoying” because she’s a kid with a lot of energy, priya’s monotone because she’s goth. the humor’s over the top because kids are very dramatic. this movie checked all the boxes for capturing a kid in the early 2000s, i think.
Exactly! Teens and tweens perspective is always black and white and extreme! It's never in greys, it's always "I think this is wrong and if you don't f u!" Or "if I think this is right EVERYONE must think so" no in-between. And no ability to look into the future long term. Love this about this movie!
I can understand not liking MeiMei's friends so much, but to be honest, the way they're designed as characters does line up pretty well with how teenage girls were back in the early 2000s EDIT: I know no one asked, but for clarification I absolutely LOVED MeiMei and her friends.
6:27 Repeating a syllable of someone's name as a nickname is something that Chinese people do. Also meimei is like an affectionate way to call a little girl. It literally means little sister.
@@dingwitty1784 If people start mistaking joke criticisms with real ones, then he’s making the same mistake as cinemasins. If he’s not careful, he’ll go down the same path.
The aunts are stereotypical and that's the whole point lmao, the director of this movie is an Chinese Canadian woman. Also I think criticizing Prya and Abby the way you do is kind of.. eh. Prya is deadpan, but still has interests and enjoys hanging out with her friends? I dont see how that's a weird combination. And Abby is over the top, bc some 13 year olds are just like that
i feel like a lot of people won't relate to this movie as much. however, as a chinese with an overbearing mother and is always expected to do well in school, this movie connects with me emotionally and i genuinely enjoy it! edit: i had no intention of saying only asians can enjoy it, i just wanted to say that the movie was very heartwarming and any of any race or religion can love it c:
As a POC girl from a country most people forget exist, I rarely can relate to most Disney or Pixar movies, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy them, and that includes Turning Red. So all the reviews that say they don't enjoy the movie cause it's about a teenage girl just confuse me, if anything
yeah. that's why i knew everyone wouldn't like it as much but as an Asian teenager who's struggling with similar family issues, i can confirm this is one of my favorite movie and it made me cry a lot
For the comment about her finding out the curse will go away in a month but still being mad the next morning, I can say it's normal. When I got surgery on my arm when I was younger, I knew my cast would go away in a month but still got mad. Sometimes it's just how kids are
@@GhostShuriken Middle school/ tween lives are different everywhere!! my oldest sister was an early 2000s tween and she said she loved Turning Red coz of how relatable it was for her. I got whiplash from my own middle school era whenever mei and her friends did some cringe/annoying stuff too lmao
@@GhostShuriken I was like this when I was in 6th/7th grade, it’s very accurate to my experience and is exactly how people reacted when I was younger. What her friends said, their expressions, their actions, all accurate
The climax fight between Mei and her mom, dude as someone who's had a helicopter mother, that fight is realistic. The dynamic between mothers and daughters was done very well. The sanitary pads scene was almost the exact same as when I first got my period.
I think the biggest source of mixed reviews over this movie is just the fact that it is made for a specific audience - in a broader sense beyond ethnic culture, its relatable to many preteen/early teen girls and those who now reflect on that time. I watched this movie with a small group of friends - I loved it and was amazed by how well it captured my world at that age. Myself and the other girl in the group gushed about the accuracy afterwards, while the guys in the group were perplexed by our enthusiasm. They admitted they didn't understand that perspective because they hadn't grown up that way, having their own unique experiences as middle school boys. It's a shame this movie has drawn so much backlash. I support it's creativity and energy 100%, because I'm part of the target audience.
i honestly thought this movie was really cute! it had that second-hand embarrassment that i think is kind of hard to nail in films for me but it executes it perfectly and makes you feel a sense of empathy for mei. Turning Red really just shines a spotlight on tweens, i like to see that pixar is taking this new route, of divulging into traumas and *acceptance*, and also catering to the newer generation that is behind us.
Ah yes because what child isn't a cringe inducing little monster? Adults are way too harsh on this movie simply because I think y'all are just forgetting what you were like as a teenager. We were little monsters back in the day.
This movie proves not every Pixar movie needs to be deep in order to be good. I think most of us got spoiled by the "deep" Pixar movies and now every animated Disney and pixar movie that comes out will be compared to soul, inside out, Encanto, zootopia, and Wall-E. We need to remember that not every animated movie needs to be deep to be good. A bugs life, ToyStory 1, Shrek 1&2, fantasia, Oliver and company, and cars 1 all prove that a story doesn't have to be deep to be good or even great. I think most people had more expectations for turning red but how much more can you expect from a movie whose premis is "little Chinese girl turns into a giant red panda" my only expectation of the movie was to see a little Chinese girl turn into a giant red panda and that's what I got. Not every animated movie needs to be the next spiderverse or studio ghibli movie.
@@LilfoxTheHybridHylian5967 Yes necessarily. This is one of those absolutes that isn't really up for debate. Kids are little monsters. Not always the same kind of monster, but monsters nonetheless. Sometimes they're the quiet and scared kind of little monster, sometimes they're the wild and psychotic kind of little monster. But they're all little monsters.
@@swishfish8858 For the record I think *adults* are more frequently monsters than children. Children have something called innocence which comes with inexperience. Adults lie to children left and right, knowingly doing wrong, and actually believe they are in the right. It's quite disturbing actually. The psychology of adults is typically quite monstrous.
As a girl who was a weird girl growing up I related to just feeling awkward and also my parents have a TON of trauma they tried to not press on me but it still did :/ I almost cried at Meis mom apologizing because I wish my mother (which at the time was confused by me being tomboy and weird af) had apologizing me... also Miriam was me-
Tomboys are the cutest thing ever and imo sort of a goal when raising a daughter? A girl who can rough it a bit, play in the mud with the boys, and thinks outside the box? Parental win.
cant lie, i see why people dont like it but for me i liked it. One thing i kept hearing too was the fact Ming was unrealistic and over the top but honestly I feel like that was the point. She was done that way to really hammer it home that shes that overbearing parent that requires perfection and showing the audience how bad it can feel when you are the one with a strict parent for those who dont. While i may not be asian, i can at least understand what they were aiming for with how she was portrayed
She’s not even unrealistically over the top. It’s a pretty spot on depiction of what it feels like to have an overbearing Asian mother, even while some of Ming’s behavior was played up for laughs
but it acted like meilin disobeying her mother was good. her mother could have respected her decision but other than that her mom was only mad about the red panda thing and when she found her grades with her red panda merch under her bed cause she was making bad grades.
frankly this just feels like a disconnect between middleschool girls and well- someone who never experienced it. Its just- accurate I found it enjoyable cause it felt like happy moments of a rather terrible point of time for me. It is a pretty neich movie/story but ya know what, that's fine. it doesn't have to cater to everyone's taste.
I feel like your analysis on Priya and Abbey completely misses the fact that they're 13 year-old girls. Same with Mei's sudden crush on the convenience store boy. We're so used to seeing young teens (especially girls) act more mature in media where that is definitely not always the case, these characters feel very realistic as preteen girls of the early 2000's and your comment on Priya being to deadpan to like the things the other girls like is just believing in stereotypes. Like every goth/emo kid does not have to be into some underground rock or scream bands no one has heard of, people can be into stuff that happens to be popular while being not as energetic or smiley. I usually really like your videos but for this one you kind of sound like the critic who said the movie was really bad because he couldn't relate to it, of course you don't personally relate to it, its a story about being a young teen girl and you're an at least 30 year-old guy! I knew girls just like Abbey, and saying she should've been written different just because you find her annoying is ignoring the fact that some girls are like that and calling them annoying is frankly just mean. You obviously don't have to like her but saying she should be written different so that she's not as "annoying" is not ok .
And I think you're missing the fact that the movie is still a movie. Just because they're 13 doesn't give them an excuse to shove unlikeable characters in our faces. Relatability doesn't equal good. Just give me a good story with good characters.
@@Emily-pn1br The point of the movie is that Mei wants to act her age, these characters act their age especially for the early 2000's in which this movie is set. Sorry that some people annoy you but I'm glad that they made Abbey a little "cringy" cause guess what? Almost literally every person is cringey as a preteen and it doesn't make sense, especially in a movie like this, to have the preteen girls all be calm or chill all of the time. You're going to have the crackhead energy friend that maybe mellows out it high school but also maybe doesn't and becomes a theatre kid or something. I like how they made these characters, they just make sense for the setting, the story, and their age.
@@tini_ceh654 it's not about what the characters are, it's how they're delivered. I don't care if they're deadpan or have crackhead energy, just as long as you present them well. In which my opinion, they didn't.
@@Emily-pn1br It's a kids movie, they are going to exaggerate them at least a little bit because kids would like and relate to the energetic character. I feel like at least some people still expect movies from Pixar to be as mature as Up or Wall-e but obviously they have changed. I get that as an (adult? Older teen?) they seem immature and over-the-top but this is a movie for the age group that acts like this, not whatever adult on the internet that happens to watch the movie. It was a fun, lighthearted movie that still had a good message, written in a way that would appeal to kids.
@@tini_ceh654 "it's a kid's movie" is always the go-to reasoning to bad movie choices and it's killing me. Yes, it's a kid's movie but that doesn't excuse it's flaws and problems to the general public.
Maybe it was too niche to have mass appeal but anyone who was a preteen girl in the late 90's early 2000's has to love this movie. Its so relatable. Literally Mei was me, and all the girls I went to school with in Junior High. and the way Asian culture and relationships between mothers and daughters in an Asian family was handled was really beautiful. For me this movie was a 10 out of 10. I loved it.
I’m a kid from a decade later and it’s safe to say that preteen girls (especially neurodivergent ones) still act EXACTLY like this. Even for me, this movie was accurate
Its because of the sheer seriousness of the task at hand and one headbutt and some twerking works like i know its a movie for children but atleast we could of had a word to word talk to change her mind and also they forgive way to easily
I think he meant that they could've gone a much more better route in resolving the conflict. And it's true. We really didn't need the climax to heavily focus on getting rid of Ming's panda.
I think this movie hits very well with the target demographic. Despite how exaggerated it is, it is somehow, the most accurate representation of what it felt like being a middle school girl. I’m an adult now, but this awoke memories in me I can’t accurately describe. It’s a fantastic movie, for a specific audience. For those of us within that audience, I think, generally, it was beloved.
I actually really liked the relationship between her and the group. Abby is a lot and I didn't really care for her, but I loved Prya, her dry reactions and delivery cracked me up a lot
It's not meant to be "cute" it's meant to be real, It's about a real person's life. and honestly, if you are not okay with teenagers haveing crushes then don't watch movies with the main cast being teens.
@@henrymorales9584 dawg it ain't that deep lmao relatability doesn't equal good movie. the guy's opinion is literally all about the movie and nothing about him disliking it cause "he refuses to relate" stop it with that nonsense
I actually think that's one of the greatest movies from Pixar. Your problems with the characters are very shallow and they actually make the movie really nice to watch. The friend group feels real, since I had friends like them, and they are very charismatic on their own way. Something that I don't think you got to understand is that this movie is about tweens, doing cringe things and discovering themselves. It makes a better work on family drama and expectations than Encanto, since Encanto didn't had a good redemption arc. I give it a 9.5/10
I was trying to think what a person would have to do in that situation, and the only rational and reasonable solution I came up with was become a hobo and ride different railroads for the rest of your life.
You’re thinking a fight between a mom and daughter about growing up is boring but I guarantee you if you ask your girlfriend if you have one or your mom about if they had a fight with their parents because they were getting older and maturing you’ll be rich I remember having that fight with my mom I remember my sister having that fight with my mom I think you completely missed the point of the movie
Men just don't get it, in general. They're too comfortable in their position as top dog in our culture. Anything women go through is "pointless", "cringeworthy" or "overreacting", unless it involves sex or violence in which case HERE COMES THE MAN TO SAVE THE DAY.
@@MarvinGT502 you're* And also, by asking me to stop, you've proven my point. You want me to shut up and go away, to stop pointing out your bullshit. Take a minute to think about where you are in life, and how that might have been different if you were born as someone else. Very likely you'd not be in that spot you're in.
@@swishfish8858 Jesus christ you really couldn't be more wrong. It's embarrassing how many people treasure this film solely out of spite for men, you're one of those people. Your points only have weight as long as you disregard the fact that there have been many examples of brilliant female empowerement in movies and shows recently and in general, and even then you're leaning towards misandry which negates many of the things you said. You actually just victimised yourself to make an uneducated point based around the generalisation of all men to an ideology that *you* created. Also don't forget the fact that you decided to stupidly speak for other people even though you're in no position to do so. I pray that you don't ever study sociology
I would like to point out that this movie was made by Asian women, telling a story about how awkward it was to be a girl in middle school and getting a first crush. If it's not relatable to men, then it's just not. I'm sorry. Not to say that it's a good thing that young boys and men can't relate to it, but lets be honest. Every girl i know went through some drawing under the bed phase when it came to a crush - either physically drawing, or now with the emergence of the internet, actual deviant art ships and fanfictions. The whole One Direction fanbase is evidence of young girls falling over themselves in love and not knowing what to do about that - because similar to girls who loved 1D, Mei in the story has no intention of telling the store clerk she likes him, because it's awkward and weird, and idk man. Being a girl in middle school was hard, I like to think this movie portrayed the accuracy of that awkwardness really well.
Things like that should be repressed and forgotten, not celebrated in a film that sexualises underage female characters and promotes morally abhorrent messages to kids.
I don't understand the hate for this movie, so many other movies have symbolism around puberty, like spiderman. But I guess since it's about a teenage girl it isn't well received.
That's exactly it. We as a society have this hate for teenage girls for some reason. We hate their favorite music, their favorite movies, their favorite celebrities, etc. I mean look at Twilight; it's about on the same level of shameless audience-skewering manipulation as Fast and the Furious or the Marvel movies, but the difference is nobody likes the intended demographic. It's something I'd like to study and analyze, actually. I'm fascinated by social phenomina like this and I'd love to come up with some kind of theory about the stigma.
I liked most of the video, but how can you be yell at a character for not showing emotion. This kinda shows how you would treat an actual person like that. And you think Abby is annoying? Abby just doesn't really filter out what she says. Maybe my standards are too low, but how can you dislike people for shit like this.
Loved the movie, but I can accept the fact that not everyone did, and that that's okay. You justified a 5/10 for this film a lot better than some other reviewers out there, so here, have a comment and a sub!
Accepting the fact that not everyone loved/liked the movie unfortunatelly became an exception... a lot of reviewers act like everyone who didn't like the movie is insesitive, sexist or something
@@AsAventurasdeGui I mean to be fair, a lot of the things I’ve seen about this movie are people being like “ew, periods, don’t talk about that in a kids movie!” which is quite sexist, I get what you mean tho
Yeah. Personally i prefer Encanto. However this movie means alot to people out there and id like to see fans of this film have a great time and enjoy it just like how encanto is addicting...ya get what i mean
@@AsAventurasdeGui Thank you for summing that up. I respect that because these young kids in social media gathering around to hate you because you don't like this movie, kind of toxic positivity going on
I liked it. Remembering how I acted when I was 13 and going through raging hormones and high expectations, it’s very accurate. I’m not Asian but I can relate to mei and her friends and I think when I was 13 I would have totally loved this movie and thought it was super funny! It’s made for 13 year olds and it’s a really good movie for 13 year olds!
Something that kinda bothers me is that the movie doesn’t acknowledge the kids only liked Mei because of the Red Panda. Like take the scene where Tyler(the bully character) gets attacked. He gets attacked because he said some offensive things about Mei’s mom and her temple. But instead of that, what if he brings up the fact that everyone only likes Mei for the Red Panda and not her. Like he says something like “Fine! Go! I don’t care about you! No one does! They only care about the Red Panda! Not you!”. While not being much, it can at least acknowledge that fact, while also making Tyler’s insult feel less one dimensional and kinda true.
the second-hand embarrassment was honestly a positive for me lol. tween girls are embarrassing, it’s part of growing up. mei reminds me a lot of my little sister, so when you don’t take the movie too seriously it’s really cute. (at least that was my experience with it)
Actually, for the nickname it’s accurate, because in Chinese, they usually consists of one character repeated twice, so it’s catchier. For example I’m yueh-ling, and I’m called “ling-ling” in family gatherings. People also put “ah” in front of the character, for instance in my case, it’d be “ah-ling.” Even though my real name and my nicknames all have the same number of syllables, my nickname would still be easier to remember since people only need to remember one character instead of two, and EVERYONE would either be “ah-something” or “something-something.” It’s a cultural thing.
I actually like this movie, it reminded me of how I was in the early 2000s when boybands were a thing and having friends just like this. The hype girl, the goth chick and the reasonable one. It was a mess but compared to the animations I've been watching recently I actually appreciate this.
Honestly I disagree with your rating 😅 I really enjoyed it! It didn’t make me as emotionally hit as some other Pixar movies but it still struck a cord, especially the scene when MeiMei is talking to her mom’s younger self. I may not be Chinese but a lot of the movie was relatable to my own childhood. It really took me back, even the dying of embarrassment bits 😅 (I also grew up in Canada) This movie also made me laugh so hard, Ive already watched it twice! I’d give this a 7/10
I honestly loved the movie. I know some people didnt like it due to its mentions of periods which I think is kinda ridiculous. I couldnt get behind the animation at first but it grew on me and I like it
5:50 red pandas are more closely related to raccoons. It’s mostly because of the markings on their face that do closely resemble Pandas, that people think they’re related to pandas.
I feel like a lot of the controversy on this film just circulates around the awkward teenage stage. That stage is a mess and all over the place, it's embarrassing and a really awkward thing to talk about. I'm glad that Pixar made a film that's open to this kinds of stuff, it is a normal thing but I understand how people were weirded out by it, I mean Pixar's never approached a movie like this where growing up is a huge part of the film, it's one of the main focuses. Sure I cringed super hard at the Daisy Mart scenes and other small things but I feel like that was their intention, it's supposed to make you feel awkward, if Disney/Pixar movies do a good job at anything it's feeling emotion. Like all of their movies this one had a lot of time put into it and they incorporated awkwardness into the mix of emotions apart from what they usually use. Overall the story is good and I can agree it wasn't the best movie of all time but it's also not the worst thing I've seen, it's more in the middle for me but the mother daughter troupe in this movie moved me. If I had to rate it I'd probably give it a 7.
This was written toward a specific audience. This totally reminded me of my childhood, a girl with crushes and loved boy bands and would sketch romantic embraces. But also since it took place in the early 2000s, that was when I was their age so their environment also reminded me of that time. Most millennial women relate hard. By the way this was written by an Asian-Canadian woman so the super fly aunties scene is based on her life, which I’ve seen a lot of other Asian Americans relate to. Dude this movie was fantastic I don’t know what you’re talking about lol
I like how you were honest and gave a fair reviewing. This movie definetly won't hit home for a lot of people and can be too much for others but its one of my favorites. As an artist, this animation is so so well done - it's spectacular. Also I feel there are a lot of things not considered in this review. This movie shows what it looks like to be a preteen and that's really important since there's a odd culture of growing up too fast for young girls now.
I have to admit that I really enjoyed the movie. It was weird and really out there, and that's what I liked about it. I really enjoy when animated projects that don't shy away from family problems, teenage drama or social issues. The characters, animation and voice acting were all done very well. They did a good job of showing how scary changing and growing up can be, but it happens for a reason. But like any other Disney movie, the problem is mostly resolved to quickly. Forgiving and moving on is important, but its not easy (like they make it seem in their movies). Ming did the exact same thing to Mei that her mother did to her - and she didn't see that? If nothing is ever going to be good enough, you shouldn't push a child to be perfect. Healing can happen...but it takes time. (Ming shouldn't need to apologize. She may have given her mother that scar, but it was Wu's controlling and overbearing nature that caused such an act.) People may call the portrayal of Chinese culture in this movie racist or stereotypical; but it isn't if its all fact. Most families of Asian cultures are very controlling and pass that toxic quirk to their children. Parents shouldn't push their desires onto their children, because than the children never get to live their own lives. If your kids rebel, its most likely because you're refusing to listen to them. If there's a sequel, I seriously hope that Disney doesn't tone down the problems and issues of growing up.
I feel like a lot of the problems you had with the movie were born of a lack of perspective. I admit, I don't know how old you are, but it feel like you've forgotten what middle schoolers are like. Especially young girls. Mei and her friends were hardly exaggerated at all. Same thing with the climax being boring. The climax took the FORM of a kaiju battle, but the real stakes were the relationship between Mei and Ming. Mei finally showing her true, weird, dorky self with Ming struggling to realize she had to accept it. Because if she couldn't that would have effectively been the end between them. I thought it was fantastically done.
Hm... let's see, it sexualises underage girls, pushes a message of prioritising yourself over having respect for your parents and the characters are all unlikeable and annoying.
@@pikajew3578 Ooooookay. 1: The characters being unlikeable/annoying is subjective. Again, they are young teen girls. They are going to be cringy, emotional, and over the top. That's the point. 2: You SHOULD prioritize yourself. You should of course strive to not hurt those in your life, but if someone in your life is hurting you, even if it's your parents, you need to take a stand for your own well-being. The idea that the parent is absolute is a tradition that needs to die. Parents hold the responsibility to raise their children to be productive adults. But that doesn't give them the right to abuse or traumatize their child in the name of, "respect." Kids are people, just like adults. And while they aren't mature enough to make all of their own decisions yet, they need to learn that they have some agency in their life. And when parents don't allow for that, rebellion is the natural reaction. 3: If you found the depiction of the girls in this film to be sexual then I think you have some issues to work through, my guy.
it’s literally the absolute best movie they have ever made. you’re opinion is so surface level. its unreal. every single detail you found “weird” had a psychological effect and meaning to the plot that actually made sense on deeper understanding while keeping it child friendly and cartoony.
Bruh the movie isn’t that deep so him having a surface level opinion means nothing. People can find whatever they find weird and you sadly can’t shame him into changing his opinion.
Despite being a story about a girl turning into a giant Red Panda, still the most unrealistic part was the friendship group almost immediately forgiving Mei...have you met teenage girls? The minute Mei was driven away from the group after betraying them, they should've been like "Thaaaaat BITCH!" And then proceed to spread rumours about her throughout the school and destroy her life.
They were TRUE friends in which they could understand that Mei was hurt inside and that’s not how she normally is but acting that way because her mom was there. They were still mad when they said “you threw us under the bus.” I liked that fact that they are still entitled to their feelings of being mad but had the insight to forgive her because they really know her. Mei is discovering her voice and true self in this movie (this was set up in the beginning when she says “I am my own person” as if a mantra because she’s still doing everything to be perfect in her mom’s eyes by making sacrifices on what she herself wants to do as a teen girl). Her friends see and know her struggle literally as a panda and when she vents to them. They did forgive her a little fast though -But of course, time constraints lol! More often than not, we’d see the girls against girls in teen movies and in real life, but it’s not unheard of to see these kinds of girls who are understanding and eventually voice their feelings and forgive -and I’m lucky to know this firsthand. We need to see this more in movies-that not everyone is out to get each other, especially girls vs girls. I think we’re slowly getting to see more of this where women uplift women (watch the Making of Turning Red) in recent years and I’m seeing it more in my day-to-day life and in the workplace. I’m here for it!
Seeing a movie address the high expectations for children in Asian culture is kind of just a blessing on its own, even if the rest of the movie isn't A++. Many of my friends during their youth have had their mental states completely destroyed to the point of becoming physically sick from stress because of their parents expectations being put onto them like it's their sole purpose in life. It really makes them feel like they mean nothing else, and their only purpose is to have a really good job and raise kids the same way as their characters
Personally, I’d rate it a 9/10, and honestly, I think Ming is an accurate depiction of an Asian mom- I’m even surprised she would apologize, other than that, I feel like *almost* everyone could connect with the film, being afraid to come out of your shell, being pressured to be perfect, going into puberty, or just becoming an immigrant could all relate to some aspect of the movie. But, I’ll respect your opinion.
You’re spot on with your take on Pyra. Maybe it would’ve made more sense if it was shown that she forced the dead pan expression or that maybe she was actually embarrassed to love the band and stuff her friends liked, but she actually did like it. Or they could’ve given her a secondary group of friends that she acts like that to fit in with them, but then she can be her true self with her real friends. I thought Abby was hilarious. I think they were looking for contrast with her and Pyra. High emotion and low, while Miriam is the most centered
After watching the movie twice, I can say that I really like this movie. It's refreshing to see a movie focusing on a girl's childhood and transition into her teens. I don't think the movie is perfect either, but you know, just like the message from the movie, it's ok to watch a movie that is fun without being a masterpiece. Pixar has so many great movies, that I love how experimental they're trying to be now and I'm fine with that.
To be honest, this is the fist video I didn't end up watching whole because it's clear for the fist minutes of criticism how some can lack sheer empty or understanding of someone else's story, or even leave it alone if you didn't understood where it's Comming from the start, I Def didn't grew up in Canada, neither where born in a Chinese ascent family but the movie was relatable to me not only in the girl growing up scenarios but also in the mother's generational trauma in general, maybe some didn't had so much trouble telling their parents what they were into and stuff? Mostly males, the ones that come up with this kinda critique and I get it, didn't surprised me your best character overall was her dad. I find it amazing how people come up with the "I couldn't relate to a girl growing up" but can totally go enjoy a movie with a multi millionare wearing a costume at night to get some criminals. But Allright not we all have to like all same things but this was so on POINT with some details for the ones that were there to see them and it bothers me so much everyone is like "it's bad" just because you can't get a grimpse of it or simply ignore the people who have the view for it at its most blantly state its... Even sad.
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the transformation into a Red Panda was supposed to be a euphemism for a woman's period. The entire story is about the transition from childhood to adulthood and conflict between fulfilling your parents expectations and being your own woman. Meimei can't just stay home for an entire month waiting for the Red Panda curse to subside because she has a life to live similar to how a woman experiencing her periods can't just stay home for a week dealing with all the pain, discomfort and whatever personality spikes that may or may not come with having a period. She has to go to school and learn to deal with it as part of her transition to adulthood. NEVERMIND I REALLY SHOULD FINISH WATCHING THE VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING BUT MY POINT STILL STANDS
I will definitely say that the "Awooga" part killed me. Not in a "haha too funny" way, but more so in the way of killing interest in that scene all together. Maybe without that blurt and facial expression in that moment it would've been funnier, but it was definitely like a joke getting to the peak and then just falling off unsuccessfully.
If this was by Illumination, it would’ve been the first movie I loved by them. I generally don’t like their films (Despicable Me is probably their least bad movie).
Your take about the immigrant family thing was interesting. I thought the red panda can represent more than just that, more than just periods (if its just period then shouldn’t the grandma lost her panda powers?) i saw someone compare it to changing religions that are different than their families
As someone who remembers her middle school years very clear, I felt connection with turning red on a spiritual level. I was every single one of Meimei's friends on different stages of my life, but ten times worse
I don’t know about Asian mothers, but my mother is German and Irish and a TOTAL Ming. My mom was not open to talk about puberty or any bodily functions like Ming, but she took the opposite extreme where everyone in my household had to pretend that no form of growth or maturity happened to anyone ever because it made her uncomfortable. Other than that difference she was every bit as controlling, angry and terrifying. She is still in complete denial that I am post pubescent… and I am married… and 36. And whenever I am around her I am still expected to act like a little girl to such an extent that she completely alienates my husband by pretending he is just a boyfriend who will be gone soon. 🤦♀️
I love this movie. I love the animation. I love that they are realistic middle schoolers. I love the way they handle the the mother-daughter relationship. I love everything about it. It’s not made for EVERYONE to relate to, the movie knows it’s audience and I can appreciate that. It’s not a “Pixar Masterpiece” but it’s still a really good watch and it tells a good story.
honestly, valid. i feel like encanto was a bit slow-paced, which is the exact opposite of what i regularly enjoy. turning red felt more energetic and individualized, plus turning red features coming-of-age topics many film-producers have shyed away from for what feels like forever now. i like it, it's a breath of fresh air. while it does, for the most part, tie with encanto for me, it's definitely better (imo) in most categories. it wins, only by a bit, but it wins.
People only like Encanto because it's "deep" and the internet told them to like it. These same people hate turning red because it's not "deep" and the internet told them to hate it.
@@angelinacamacho8575 I have a feeling Encanto won in the internet's eyes partially because of the presence of LMM. He's REALLY popular in the vocal internet circles, methinks.
Notice how the Uber fans of the film are mostly women defending some of the film's bad aspects and yet have the gall to blame men for criticizing the movie. LET PEOPLE ENJOY AND ALSO NOT ENJOY THINGS
this movie was actually such a feeling of relief for me. As someone who's grown up glued to the tv with cartoons and now going into working in animation, i'd say it's like i WISH there had been a movie like this when i was kid. Most animated movies have male leads, but not only does this have a female lead, its a coming of age story...i read so many comments on it being cringe, but like the cringe scenes were clearly meant to be cringe. Also as someone who had a over protective helicopter parent i found it so freakishly relatable, i don't think i've seen any film of any genre/medium that has done that trope so on point. also hmm... interesting how everyone who says they dislike this movie is a man. Yet all the woman in the comments and women i know who've seen this .. love it. interesting.
It doesn't sound very interesting though. It sounds more like the movie was targeted at a specific audience, and the things used to attract that audience turned some other audiences off... It isn't interesting that my mother doesn't care about the avengers, but does care about twilight. People like different things. Some movies have broader appeal than others.
in the last part of your comment, the guys that dislike it dont relate or understand this while the women/girls do because theyve atleast experienced the awkward acts performed in the movie by the group before. funny how alot of people have a strong dislike against teenage girls
I think that all those cringy aspects are to connect more with the public, as we were all weirdos, if we see ourselves at that age we were cringe about It
Ngl i liked turning red... and then Ming told the origin of the red panda and i was like "HOLY FUCK I WANNA SEE THAT MOVIE! STUDIO GHIBLI PLEASE!" And then i realized "oh, so their going with this plot... yaaaaay😐"
As a kid, I hate this movie with a passion. To everyone who says he "forgot what it was to be a teenager"- no. The movie sucks. I literally don't know anyone my age who acts like this.
because you werent born in 2000s and werent born in an area that was heavily influenced by this culture. dont know how the movie sucks because i personally enjoyed it even though it was cringy many times. ive seen alot of people act like this before. question, are you male? alot of people who dislike this movie are guys while most women actually enjoyed and related to the movie.
Pixar Quotes then: “Not everyone can be a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere” - Anton Ego Pixar Quotes Now: “I LIKE GYRATING!!!” - MeiMei, a thirteen year old unstable furry
14:51 this is actually pretty accurate, I remember not so long ago me and my best friend got into an argument that ended up in a fist fight and major pain, only to forgive each other in 5 minutes
guys I swear I didn't know red pandas were so tiny and not in the bear family lmao
I think they are some form of racoon...
I didn't know they were tiny either
Extremely early
@@thomasskye that's true
@@thomasskye apparently they're their own family lol
I met a Vietnamese lady who acts exactly like Ming, it's not that unrealistic. The most unrealistic thing is Ming apologizing
TRUE💀 as an Asian teenager myself i can confirm this
It is also unrealistic that they didn’t do a super strict punishment, like spanking them
@@johnpaulrodriguez1469 lmaoaoao sir this is Disney pixar 💀
@@johnpaulrodriguez1469 as if spanking is the worst "super strict" punishment an Asian child can get💀
@@johnpaulrodriguez1469 sir/ma'am, I got threatened to be put in a sack and gonna be smack the sh!t out of me while the smoke from a fire under the a hanging sack (where I'm supposed to be in) making me hard to breathe
Despite abby being a character I thought was annoying, each of the girls reminded me of girls who I knew when I was in middle school. It gave me so many moments where I cringed out of sheer embarrassment cause either me or my friends have done things the main characters did. Peak accuracy for middle school girl representation
Surprised they did it so well
Yeah i see
yesss because this movie is supposed to be cringe cuz it's about a couple of 13 year olds and it can be cringe at some times I I not even 13 yet I just turn 12 but I am as cringe
@@timezone6610 Hm. Despite some grammatical errors, I'd say that was pretty well written.
Thumbs up 👍.
Yeah no one gives a fuck it was still bad
As a child to a korean mom, yes, they NEVER apologize for ANYTHING
Korean?
@@Summer_x_rain yes korean? That's what they said?
im pretty sure (correct me if im wrong) most asian parents, japanese, chinese, korean, thai etc are very expecting of their kids and never apologize
My Mexican mom does the exact same thing
I would say...Trinidadian parents can be like that too....they must always be right
i think a lot of the whole “this is weird” thing stems from not being able to recall how awkward being a teenager is. imo, turning red executed being a kid SO well. abby’s “annoying” because she’s a kid with a lot of energy, priya’s monotone because she’s goth. the humor’s over the top because kids are very dramatic. this movie checked all the boxes for capturing a kid in the early 2000s, i think.
I approve as someone who was a kid in the early 2000s
Exactly! Teens and tweens perspective is always black and white and extreme! It's never in greys, it's always "I think this is wrong and if you don't f u!" Or "if I think this is right EVERYONE must think so" no in-between. And no ability to look into the future long term. Love this about this movie!
@@whereswaldo4197 Instead of searching for Waldo, try searching for a life, cause you need one after getting pissed over a fictional kid
i am a teen and i dont like the movie or relate
@@daisanity6457 It was a joke okay! You should really take yt comments less seriously.
I can understand not liking MeiMei's friends so much, but to be honest, the way they're designed as characters does line up pretty well with how teenage girls were back in the early 2000s
EDIT: I know no one asked, but for clarification I absolutely LOVED MeiMei and her friends.
I have a cousin who looks and acts alot like abby and she actually does have a stfu vibe
I just thought they were a little annoying
This movie was for entitled kids. It's a shame because it had so much potential to be GREAT. now it's just eh
@@cookieman4578 Ok...I'm curious, elaborate
@@cookieman4578 Yes i also want know what you mean
6:27 Repeating a syllable of someone's name as a nickname is something that Chinese people do. Also meimei is like an affectionate way to call a little girl. It literally means little sister.
Half of his criticisms are insanely surface level lmao repeating a syllableto create a nickname is pretty common, even in English
@@gracekang2161 pretty sure that was meant to be a joke lol y'all seriously need to relax when watching videos like this lmao
@@dingwitty1784 If people start mistaking joke criticisms with real ones, then he’s making the same mistake as cinemasins. If he’s not careful, he’ll go down the same path.
@@gracekang2161 Sounded to me as if he couldn't wait to shit on the movie.....for pretty crappy reasons.
ling ling
“I’m not a film critic! I’m just a guy who watches movies and complains a lot!” So, you are a film critic then
He's a critic alright, JUST NOT A PROFESSIONAL ONE.
@@Deltanium2080 Oh yeah what’s the difference?
@@kelvinplush9735 P R E S E N T A T I O N
@@Deltanium2080peak yt comment interaction
@@bocar4127this deserve a gold metal of being right mega mind
The aunts are stereotypical and that's the whole point lmao, the director of this movie is an Chinese Canadian woman. Also I think criticizing Prya and Abby the way you do is kind of.. eh. Prya is deadpan, but still has interests and enjoys hanging out with her friends? I dont see how that's a weird combination. And Abby is over the top, bc some 13 year olds are just like that
The woman isn’t canadian
@@MarvinGT502 ..? Didn’t she move to Canada at a young age?
@@MarvinGT502 she is Canadian
@@MarvinGT502 She's Chinese Canadian.... it's on her wiki page....
I think Abby has adhd
i feel like a lot of people won't relate to this movie as much. however, as a chinese with an overbearing mother and is always expected to do well in school, this movie connects with me emotionally and i genuinely enjoy it!
edit: i had no intention of saying only asians can enjoy it, i just wanted to say that the movie was very heartwarming and any of any race or religion can love it c:
As a POC girl from a country most people forget exist, I rarely can relate to most Disney or Pixar movies, but that doesn't mean I can't enjoy them, and that includes Turning Red. So all the reviews that say they don't enjoy the movie cause it's about a teenage girl just confuse me, if anything
@@donkeykong3628 I am so sorry I hope you get represented soon
yeah. that's why i knew everyone wouldn't like it as much but as an Asian teenager who's struggling with similar family issues, i can confirm this is one of my favorite movie and it made me cry a lot
Well..
Its your opinion and we all have different tastes
More power to ya! 💁♂️👍
@@LilfoxTheHybridHylian5967 what 😀
For the comment about her finding out the curse will go away in a month but still being mad the next morning, I can say it's normal. When I got surgery on my arm when I was younger, I knew my cast would go away in a month but still got mad. Sometimes it's just how kids are
No duh. It's a metaphor for aunt flow and that time of the month.
“they’re all annoying” i think that’s the point- they’re 13…
Mate pretty sure their the only 13 year olds that act like this (maybe not). Though back when I was 13 people I knew were mature and stuff.
@@GhostShuriken Middle school/ tween lives are different everywhere!! my oldest sister was an early 2000s tween and she said she loved Turning Red coz of how relatable it was for her. I got whiplash from my own middle school era whenever mei and her friends did some cringe/annoying stuff too lmao
@@GhostShuriken everyone was like this when i was 13
@@GhostShuriken what time period to you live in?
@@GhostShuriken I was like this when I was in 6th/7th grade, it’s very accurate to my experience and is exactly how people reacted when I was younger. What her friends said, their expressions, their actions, all accurate
At this point, I just feel like our society has an unhealthy amount of hate/dislike for teenage girls
hate and sexualizes them constantly.
@@DeezN00tz99 no just you shouldnt release useless movies like this
Idk
@@zzzzzczzzzz maybe you shouldn’t been born with a useless life like this
Well, they are pretty retarded.
The climax fight between Mei and her mom, dude as someone who's had a helicopter mother, that fight is realistic. The dynamic between mothers and daughters was done very well. The sanitary pads scene was almost the exact same as when I first got my period.
She literally twerk on her mother
@@At-px6rmNOT that climax
I think the biggest source of mixed reviews over this movie is just the fact that it is made for a specific audience - in a broader sense beyond ethnic culture, its relatable to many preteen/early teen girls and those who now reflect on that time.
I watched this movie with a small group of friends - I loved it and was amazed by how well it captured my world at that age. Myself and the other girl in the group gushed about the accuracy afterwards, while the guys in the group were perplexed by our enthusiasm. They admitted they didn't understand that perspective because they hadn't grown up that way, having their own unique experiences as middle school boys.
It's a shame this movie has drawn so much backlash. I support it's creativity and energy 100%, because I'm part of the target audience.
Because it's a disgusting movie?
How is it disgusting? @@pikajew3578
i honestly thought this movie was really cute! it had that second-hand embarrassment that i think is kind of hard to nail in films for me but it executes it perfectly and makes you feel a sense of empathy for mei. Turning Red really just shines a spotlight on tweens, i like to see that pixar is taking this new route, of divulging into traumas and *acceptance*, and also catering to the newer generation that is behind us.
i died of cringe watching it but its a good movie none the less
I thought it was pretty cute too. But it was a little embarrassing and hard to watch.
@@Nigg4pufferfish445 the thing is it is supposed to be cringe on purpose
@@Nigg4pufferfish445 me too
Nerd
Ah yes because what child isn't a cringe inducing little monster?
Adults are way too harsh on this movie simply because I think y'all are just forgetting what you were like as a teenager. We were little monsters back in the day.
Not necessarily. Depends on family
This movie proves not every Pixar movie needs to be deep in order to be good. I think most of us got spoiled by the "deep" Pixar movies and now every animated Disney and pixar movie that comes out will be compared to soul, inside out, Encanto, zootopia, and Wall-E. We need to remember that not every animated movie needs to be deep to be good. A bugs life, ToyStory 1, Shrek 1&2, fantasia, Oliver and company, and cars 1 all prove that a story doesn't have to be deep to be good or even great. I think most people had more expectations for turning red but how much more can you expect from a movie whose premis is "little Chinese girl turns into a giant red panda" my only expectation of the movie was to see a little Chinese girl turn into a giant red panda and that's what I got. Not every animated movie needs to be the next spiderverse or studio ghibli movie.
@@LilfoxTheHybridHylian5967 Yes necessarily. This is one of those absolutes that isn't really up for debate. Kids are little monsters. Not always the same kind of monster, but monsters nonetheless. Sometimes they're the quiet and scared kind of little monster, sometimes they're the wild and psychotic kind of little monster. But they're all little monsters.
@@swishfish8858 ...the quiet and scared kind of little monster. You're going to have to explain that one.
@@swishfish8858 For the record I think *adults* are more frequently monsters than children. Children have something called innocence which comes with inexperience. Adults lie to children left and right, knowingly doing wrong, and actually believe they are in the right. It's quite disturbing actually. The psychology of adults is typically quite monstrous.
As a girl who was a weird girl growing up I related to just feeling awkward and also my parents have a TON of trauma they tried to not press on me but it still did :/ I almost cried at Meis mom apologizing because I wish my mother (which at the time was confused by me being tomboy and weird af) had apologizing me... also Miriam was me-
Tomboys are the cutest thing ever and imo sort of a goal when raising a daughter? A girl who can rough it a bit, play in the mud with the boys, and thinks outside the box? Parental win.
cant lie, i see why people dont like it but for me i liked it. One thing i kept hearing too was the fact Ming was unrealistic and over the top but honestly I feel like that was the point. She was done that way to really hammer it home that shes that overbearing parent that requires perfection and showing the audience how bad it can feel when you are the one with a strict parent for those who dont. While i may not be asian, i can at least understand what they were aiming for with how she was portrayed
just so you know Mei was realistic because yeah there is a lot of moms like that out here
She’s not even unrealistically over the top. It’s a pretty spot on depiction of what it feels like to have an overbearing Asian mother, even while some of Ming’s behavior was played up for laughs
but it acted like meilin disobeying her mother was good. her mother could have respected her decision but other than that her mom was only mad about the red panda thing and when she found her grades with her red panda merch under her bed cause she was making bad grades.
But she's not unrealistic though.
Actually I think Ming wasn't even that bad she was overbearing but also multidimensional. She clearly loves her daughter but had her issues
The opening skits would make such a great show tbh lmaooo, just full-on giant companies bickering at each other in an office space 😭
True lol
frankly this just feels like a disconnect between middleschool girls and well- someone who never experienced it.
Its just- accurate I found it enjoyable cause it felt like happy moments of a rather terrible point of time for me.
It is a pretty neich movie/story but ya know what, that's fine. it doesn't have to cater to everyone's taste.
Ya, it didn't need a big story or anything but it's nice and relatable
Isn’t every Pixar movie niche
The drawings being found gave me the absolute worst second hand embarrassment I've ever experienced because I WAS A WEIRD ART KID
I feel like your analysis on Priya and Abbey completely misses the fact that they're 13 year-old girls. Same with Mei's sudden crush on the convenience store boy. We're so used to seeing young teens (especially girls) act more mature in media where that is definitely not always the case, these characters feel very realistic as preteen girls of the early 2000's and your comment on Priya being to deadpan to like the things the other girls like is just believing in stereotypes. Like every goth/emo kid does not have to be into some underground rock or scream bands no one has heard of, people can be into stuff that happens to be popular while being not as energetic or smiley. I usually really like your videos but for this one you kind of sound like the critic who said the movie was really bad because he couldn't relate to it, of course you don't personally relate to it, its a story about being a young teen girl and you're an at least 30 year-old guy! I knew girls just like Abbey, and saying she should've been written different just because you find her annoying is ignoring the fact that some girls are like that and calling them annoying is frankly just mean. You obviously don't have to like her but saying she should be written different so that she's not as "annoying" is not ok .
And I think you're missing the fact that the movie is still a movie. Just because they're 13 doesn't give them an excuse to shove unlikeable characters in our faces. Relatability doesn't equal good. Just give me a good story with good characters.
@@Emily-pn1br The point of the movie is that Mei wants to act her age, these characters act their age especially for the early 2000's in which this movie is set. Sorry that some people annoy you but I'm glad that they made Abbey a little "cringy" cause guess what? Almost literally every person is cringey as a preteen and it doesn't make sense, especially in a movie like this, to have the preteen girls all be calm or chill all of the time. You're going to have the crackhead energy friend that maybe mellows out it high school but also maybe doesn't and becomes a theatre kid or something. I like how they made these characters, they just make sense for the setting, the story, and their age.
@@tini_ceh654 it's not about what the characters are, it's how they're delivered. I don't care if they're deadpan or have crackhead energy, just as long as you present them well. In which my opinion, they didn't.
@@Emily-pn1br It's a kids movie, they are going to exaggerate them at least a little bit because kids would like and relate to the energetic character. I feel like at least some people still expect movies from Pixar to be as mature as Up or Wall-e but obviously they have changed. I get that as an (adult? Older teen?) they seem immature and over-the-top but this is a movie for the age group that acts like this, not whatever adult on the internet that happens to watch the movie. It was a fun, lighthearted movie that still had a good message, written in a way that would appeal to kids.
@@tini_ceh654 "it's a kid's movie" is always the go-to reasoning to bad movie choices and it's killing me. Yes, it's a kid's movie but that doesn't excuse it's flaws and problems to the general public.
Maybe it was too niche to have mass appeal but anyone who was a preteen girl in the late 90's early 2000's has to love this movie. Its so relatable. Literally Mei was me, and all the girls I went to school with in Junior High. and the way Asian culture and relationships between mothers and daughters in an Asian family was handled was really beautiful. For me this movie was a 10 out of 10. I loved it.
"Preteen girls are bad and cringe and should all die."
- the patriarchy
Even if it’s niche I still connected with it, the disapproving parent hit home for me and the anger in my youth
I’m a kid from a decade later and it’s safe to say that preteen girls (especially neurodivergent ones) still act EXACTLY like this. Even for me, this movie was accurate
The climax is FINE, what did you expect? The thirteen year old to fucking beat the shit out of her mom??? Why would she DO that?
LMFAO RIGHT?
Its because of the sheer seriousness of the task at hand and one headbutt and some twerking works like i know its a movie for children but atleast we could of had a word to word talk to change her mind and also they forgive way to easily
I think he meant that they could've gone a much more better route in resolving the conflict. And it's true. We really didn't need the climax to heavily focus on getting rid of Ming's panda.
I would prefer have the mom accidentally beat Mei. Then she realizes what she does and the rest of the movie continues.
"You never had an Asian mother and it shows"
Nominate this man for an oscar
I am very oblivious.
I did not notice that the term “turning red” is an expression for embarrassment until TODAY!
I have always used " Turned as red as the Soviets"
It refers to blushing, thus embarrassment, or having your face flush in anger ("His face turned red with rage.") Embarrassment is most common.
Oh my god this is brilliant. People say this movie was shit… blasphemous
I think this movie hits very well with the target demographic. Despite how exaggerated it is, it is somehow, the most accurate representation of what it felt like being a middle school girl. I’m an adult now, but this awoke memories in me I can’t accurately describe. It’s a fantastic movie, for a specific audience. For those of us within that audience, I think, generally, it was beloved.
And I had almost the exact embodiment of all three of those friends in my middle school years. They do exist. Even Priya.
I actually really liked the relationship between her and the group. Abby is a lot and I didn't really care for her, but I loved Prya, her dry reactions and delivery cracked me up a lot
It's not meant to be "cute" it's meant to be real, It's about a real person's life. and honestly, if you are not okay with teenagers haveing crushes then don't watch movies with the main cast being teens.
You can tell this guy refuses to try to relate anything that doesn't line up to his experience
@@henrymorales9584 dawg it ain't that deep lmao relatability doesn't equal good movie. the guy's opinion is literally all about the movie and nothing about him disliking it cause "he refuses to relate" stop it with that nonsense
@WinWin-sr2fj it was a year ago I don't renember
She’s back in school because Mei passed the test her parents gave her dude. It happened right before her 4Town PowerPoint presentation.
Once, my stepdad described this movie as “the one where the bear gets its period” 💀
Dude I might call it that now
Dad should have his own movie.
his after credits scene was adorable 🤣
agreed if Pixar doesn't do it we will
I'd probably watch it
@@amazingaquaticsandexotics3030 i’d produce it
@Ian Sjogren me also
This movie doesn't need a sequel a animated series it's quite perfect as it is but if they do we better hope it's good
if any movie should have a sequal or at least more than one pixar short is Luca
@@yunopoopy yeah because Luca in school
I hope they make a something about the movie i don’t know what but I hope they do
I actually think that's one of the greatest movies from Pixar. Your problems with the characters are very shallow and they actually make the movie really nice to watch. The friend group feels real, since I had friends like them, and they are very charismatic on their own way.
Something that I don't think you got to understand is that this movie is about tweens, doing cringe things and discovering themselves. It makes a better work on family drama and expectations than Encanto, since Encanto didn't had a good redemption arc. I give it a 9.5/10
SEE THISS.
Nerd
Relatability doesn't make a movie automatically better.
@@filipkolasny908 No, but the movie is really great. it made me cry, it was so beautiful
@@scumbagsliceofbread are you sure u weren’t just crying because your dad still hasn’t come back with the milk 💀🫃🥱
If my mom showed my drawing to my crush IN PUBLIC?!!? I would actually turn into dust and fade away😵💫
Mr. Stark. I don't feel so good
@@Losyde literally perfect example😂
I was trying to think what a person would have to do in that situation, and the only rational and reasonable solution I came up with was become a hobo and ride different railroads for the rest of your life.
You’re thinking a fight between a mom and daughter about growing up is boring but I guarantee you if you ask your girlfriend if you have one or your mom about if they had a fight with their parents because they were getting older and maturing you’ll be rich I remember having that fight with my mom I remember my sister having that fight with my mom I think you completely missed the point of the movie
Men just don't get it, in general. They're too comfortable in their position as top dog in our culture. Anything women go through is "pointless", "cringeworthy" or "overreacting", unless it involves sex or violence in which case HERE COMES THE MAN TO SAVE THE DAY.
@@swishfish8858 stop your embarrasing yourself
@@MarvinGT502 you're*
And also, by asking me to stop, you've proven my point. You want me to shut up and go away, to stop pointing out your bullshit. Take a minute to think about where you are in life, and how that might have been different if you were born as someone else. Very likely you'd not be in that spot you're in.
@@swishfish8858 Jesus christ you really couldn't be more wrong. It's embarrassing how many people treasure this film solely out of spite for men, you're one of those people. Your points only have weight as long as you disregard the fact that there have been many examples of brilliant female empowerement in movies and shows recently and in general, and even then you're leaning towards misandry which negates many of the things you said. You actually just victimised yourself to make an uneducated point based around the generalisation of all men to an ideology that *you* created. Also don't forget the fact that you decided to stupidly speak for other people even though you're in no position to do so. I pray that you don't ever study sociology
I would like to point out that this movie was made by Asian women, telling a story about how awkward it was to be a girl in middle school and getting a first crush. If it's not relatable to men, then it's just not. I'm sorry. Not to say that it's a good thing that young boys and men can't relate to it, but lets be honest. Every girl i know went through some drawing under the bed phase when it came to a crush - either physically drawing, or now with the emergence of the internet, actual deviant art ships and fanfictions. The whole One Direction fanbase is evidence of young girls falling over themselves in love and not knowing what to do about that - because similar to girls who loved 1D, Mei in the story has no intention of telling the store clerk she likes him, because it's awkward and weird, and idk man. Being a girl in middle school was hard, I like to think this movie portrayed the accuracy of that awkwardness really well.
Things like that should be repressed and forgotten, not celebrated in a film that sexualises underage female characters and promotes morally abhorrent messages to kids.
@@pikajew3578get a life incel, you're replying to everyone in this comment section who has a different opinion than you
I don't understand the hate for this movie, so many other movies have symbolism around puberty, like spiderman.
But I guess since it's about a teenage girl it isn't well received.
That's exactly it. We as a society have this hate for teenage girls for some reason. We hate their favorite music, their favorite movies, their favorite celebrities, etc. I mean look at Twilight; it's about on the same level of shameless audience-skewering manipulation as Fast and the Furious or the Marvel movies, but the difference is nobody likes the intended demographic. It's something I'd like to study and analyze, actually. I'm fascinated by social phenomina like this and I'd love to come up with some kind of theory about the stigma.
I liked most of the video, but how can you be yell at a character for not showing emotion. This kinda shows how you would treat an actual person like that.
And you think Abby is annoying? Abby just doesn't really filter out what she says.
Maybe my standards are too low, but how can you dislike people for shit like this.
Loved the movie, but I can accept the fact that not everyone did, and that that's okay. You justified a 5/10 for this film a lot better than some other reviewers out there, so here, have a comment and a sub!
Accepting the fact that not everyone loved/liked the movie unfortunatelly became an exception... a lot of reviewers act like everyone who didn't like the movie is insesitive, sexist or something
@@AsAventurasdeGui I mean to be fair, a lot of the things I’ve seen about this movie are people being like “ew, periods, don’t talk about that in a kids movie!” which is quite sexist, I get what you mean tho
Yeah. Personally i prefer Encanto. However this movie means alot to people out there and id like to see fans of this film have a great time and enjoy it just like how encanto is addicting...ya get what i mean
@@Whale-Shark-Katie Sexist? How??? It's a kid's movie?!
@@AsAventurasdeGui Thank you for summing that up. I respect that because these young kids in social media gathering around to hate you because you don't like this movie, kind of toxic positivity going on
I liked it. Remembering how I acted when I was 13 and going through raging hormones and high expectations, it’s very accurate. I’m not Asian but I can relate to mei and her friends and I think when I was 13 I would have totally loved this movie and thought it was super funny! It’s made for 13 year olds and it’s a really good movie for 13 year olds!
im 13 and i dont like it at all
Something that kinda bothers me is that the movie doesn’t acknowledge the kids only liked Mei because of the Red Panda. Like take the scene where Tyler(the bully character) gets attacked. He gets attacked because he said some offensive things about Mei’s mom and her temple. But instead of that, what if he brings up the fact that everyone only likes Mei for the Red Panda and not her. Like he says something like “Fine! Go! I don’t care about you! No one does! They only care about the Red Panda! Not you!”. While not being much, it can at least acknowledge that fact, while also making Tyler’s insult feel less one dimensional and kinda true.
the second-hand embarrassment was honestly a positive for me lol. tween girls are embarrassing, it’s part of growing up. mei reminds me a lot of my little sister, so when you don’t take the movie too seriously it’s really cute. (at least that was my experience with it)
Actually, for the nickname it’s accurate, because in Chinese, they usually consists of one character repeated twice, so it’s catchier. For example I’m yueh-ling, and I’m called “ling-ling” in family gatherings. People also put “ah” in front of the character, for instance in my case, it’d be “ah-ling.”
Even though my real name and my nicknames all have the same number of syllables, my nickname would still be easier to remember since people only need to remember one character instead of two, and EVERYONE would either be “ah-something” or “something-something.” It’s a cultural thing.
they do that in Cebuano or Filipino to
I actually like this movie, it reminded me of how I was in the early 2000s when boybands were a thing and having friends just like this. The hype girl, the goth chick and the reasonable one. It was a mess but compared to the animations I've been watching recently I actually appreciate this.
Sir what were you doing commenting on a movie that was for 13yo girls going through puberty with strict parents 💀
your take of the panda being a symbol to an issue related to immigrants is actually really good, honestly didn't noticed that. It's actually spot on
It's not. The whole movie is supposed to be a metaphor for shark week
Honestly I disagree with your rating 😅 I really enjoyed it! It didn’t make me as emotionally hit as some other Pixar movies but it still struck a cord, especially the scene when MeiMei is talking to her mom’s younger self.
I may not be Chinese but a lot of the movie was relatable to my own childhood. It really took me back, even the dying of embarrassment bits 😅 (I also grew up in Canada)
This movie also made me laugh so hard, Ive already watched it twice!
I’d give this a 7/10
Yup 7/10 for me too
6.5/10
I honestly loved the movie. I know some people didnt like it due to its mentions of periods which I think is kinda ridiculous. I couldnt get behind the animation at first but it grew on me and I like it
5:50 red pandas are more closely related to raccoons. It’s mostly because of the markings on their face that do closely resemble Pandas, that people think they’re related to pandas.
The only reason why I like the character of Abby is because she is an exact replica of my best friend when she was Abby's age.
Awe
I feel like a lot of the controversy on this film just circulates around the awkward teenage stage. That stage is a mess and all over the place, it's embarrassing and a really awkward thing to talk about. I'm glad that Pixar made a film that's open to this kinds of stuff, it is a normal thing but I understand how people were weirded out by it, I mean Pixar's never approached a movie like this where growing up is a huge part of the film, it's one of the main focuses. Sure I cringed super hard at the Daisy Mart scenes and other small things but I feel like that was their intention, it's supposed to make you feel awkward, if Disney/Pixar movies do a good job at anything it's feeling emotion. Like all of their movies this one had a lot of time put into it and they incorporated awkwardness into the mix of emotions apart from what they usually use. Overall the story is good and I can agree it wasn't the best movie of all time but it's also not the worst thing I've seen, it's more in the middle for me but the mother daughter troupe in this movie moved me. If I had to rate it I'd probably give it a 7.
"Hey, I always wanted to learn the origin of the furries! Thank you Pixarrrrrrr." I CANT I FUCKING CANT
This was written toward a specific audience. This totally reminded me of my childhood, a girl with crushes and loved boy bands and would sketch romantic embraces. But also since it took place in the early 2000s, that was when I was their age so their environment also reminded me of that time. Most millennial women relate hard.
By the way this was written by an Asian-Canadian woman so the super fly aunties scene is based on her life, which I’ve seen a lot of other Asian Americans relate to. Dude this movie was fantastic I don’t know what you’re talking about lol
I like how you were honest and gave a fair reviewing. This movie definetly won't hit home for a lot of people and can be too much for others but its one of my favorites. As an artist, this animation is so so well done - it's spectacular. Also I feel there are a lot of things not considered in this review. This movie shows what it looks like to be a preteen and that's really important since there's a odd culture of growing up too fast for young girls now.
I have to admit that I really enjoyed the movie. It was weird and really out there, and that's what I liked about it. I really enjoy when animated projects that don't shy away from family problems, teenage drama or social issues. The characters, animation and voice acting were all done very well. They did a good job of showing how scary changing and growing up can be, but it happens for a reason.
But like any other Disney movie, the problem is mostly resolved to quickly. Forgiving and moving on is important, but its not easy (like they make it seem in their movies). Ming did the exact same thing to Mei that her mother did to her - and she didn't see that? If nothing is ever going to be good enough, you shouldn't push a child to be perfect. Healing can happen...but it takes time.
(Ming shouldn't need to apologize. She may have given her mother that scar, but it was Wu's controlling and overbearing nature that caused such an act.)
People may call the portrayal of Chinese culture in this movie racist or stereotypical; but it isn't if its all fact. Most families of Asian cultures are very controlling and pass that toxic quirk to their children. Parents shouldn't push their desires onto their children, because than the children never get to live their own lives. If your kids rebel, its most likely because you're refusing to listen to them.
If there's a sequel, I seriously hope that Disney doesn't tone down the problems and issues of growing up.
I feel like a lot of the problems you had with the movie were born of a lack of perspective. I admit, I don't know how old you are, but it feel like you've forgotten what middle schoolers are like. Especially young girls. Mei and her friends were hardly exaggerated at all.
Same thing with the climax being boring. The climax took the FORM of a kaiju battle, but the real stakes were the relationship between Mei and Ming. Mei finally showing her true, weird, dorky self with Ming struggling to realize she had to accept it. Because if she couldn't that would have effectively been the end between them. I thought it was fantastically done.
Hm... let's see, it sexualises underage girls, pushes a message of prioritising yourself over having respect for your parents and the characters are all unlikeable and annoying.
@@pikajew3578 Ooooookay.
1: The characters being unlikeable/annoying is subjective. Again, they are young teen girls. They are going to be cringy, emotional, and over the top. That's the point.
2: You SHOULD prioritize yourself. You should of course strive to not hurt those in your life, but if someone in your life is hurting you, even if it's your parents, you need to take a stand for your own well-being. The idea that the parent is absolute is a tradition that needs to die. Parents hold the responsibility to raise their children to be productive adults. But that doesn't give them the right to abuse or traumatize their child in the name of, "respect." Kids are people, just like adults. And while they aren't mature enough to make all of their own decisions yet, they need to learn that they have some agency in their life. And when parents don't allow for that, rebellion is the natural reaction.
3: If you found the depiction of the girls in this film to be sexual then I think you have some issues to work through, my guy.
@pikajew3578 where were the girls sexualized???
This is how you divide communities against themselves
it’s literally the absolute best movie they have ever made. you’re opinion is so surface level. its unreal. every single detail you found “weird” had a psychological effect and meaning to the plot that actually made sense on deeper understanding while keeping it child friendly and cartoony.
Bruh the movie isn’t that deep so him having a surface level opinion means nothing. People can find whatever they find weird and you sadly can’t shame him into changing his opinion.
And no, the best movie made by Pixar before it god milk is toy story.
@@xzorionbelcher9303 literally every Toy Story sequel is better then the original. Yes even 4.
@@toadstein I mean two is obviously better but one is still better than whatever Pixar just put out.
Nerd idiot
Despite being a story about a girl turning into a giant Red Panda, still the most unrealistic part was the friendship group almost immediately forgiving Mei...have you met teenage girls? The minute Mei was driven away from the group after betraying them, they should've been like "Thaaaaat BITCH!" And then proceed to spread rumours about her throughout the school and destroy her life.
Where tf did you live lmao, I never had to deal with that 😂 plus they're 13 not 16, so that kinda gruge isn't there yet
They're 13 you can give them credit, but not too much credit
I'm a bit sick of movies pitting teenage girls against each other if I'm honest, so yeah, it's a LOT better they didn't go this overrated route.
I mean it really depends they seem like the type to hold grudges but not spread rumors about her
They were TRUE friends in which they could understand that Mei was hurt inside and that’s not how she normally is but acting that way because her mom was there. They were still mad when they said “you threw us under the bus.” I liked that fact that they are still entitled to their feelings of being mad but had the insight to forgive her because they really know her. Mei is discovering her voice and true self in this movie (this was set up in the beginning when she says “I am my own person” as if a mantra because she’s still doing everything to be perfect in her mom’s eyes by making sacrifices on what she herself wants to do as a teen girl). Her friends see and know her struggle literally as a panda and when she vents to them. They did forgive her a little fast though -But of course, time constraints lol! More often than not, we’d see the girls against girls in teen movies and in real life, but it’s not unheard of to see these kinds of girls who are understanding and eventually voice their feelings and forgive -and I’m lucky to know this firsthand. We need to see this more in movies-that not everyone is out to get each other, especially girls vs girls. I think we’re slowly getting to see more of this where women uplift women (watch the Making of Turning Red) in recent years and I’m seeing it more in my day-to-day life and in the workplace. I’m here for it!
Seeing a movie address the high expectations for children in Asian culture is kind of just a blessing on its own, even if the rest of the movie isn't A++. Many of my friends during their youth have had their mental states completely destroyed to the point of becoming physically sick from stress because of their parents expectations being put onto them like it's their sole purpose in life. It really makes them feel like they mean nothing else, and their only purpose is to have a really good job and raise kids the same way as their characters
That’s awful.
Personally, I’d rate it a 9/10, and honestly, I think Ming is an accurate depiction of an Asian mom- I’m even surprised she would apologize, other than that, I feel like *almost* everyone could connect with the film, being afraid to come out of your shell, being pressured to be perfect, going into puberty, or just becoming an immigrant could all relate to some aspect of the movie. But, I’ll respect your opinion.
"Second-hand embarrassment" is the best way to describe this movie. I nearly died of cringe and embarrassment during that scene with the drawings.
She was 13, it was supposed to be cringe.
You’re spot on with your take on Pyra. Maybe it would’ve made more sense if it was shown that she forced the dead pan expression or that maybe she was actually embarrassed to love the band and stuff her friends liked, but she actually did like it. Or they could’ve given her a secondary group of friends that she acts like that to fit in with them, but then she can be her true self with her real friends.
I thought Abby was hilarious. I think they were looking for contrast with her and Pyra. High emotion and low, while Miriam is the most centered
"it's a mess all over the place" yea being a 13 y/o gets like that LMAO
nice vid btw
After watching the movie twice, I can say that I really like this movie. It's refreshing to see a movie focusing on a girl's childhood and transition into her teens. I don't think the movie is perfect either, but you know, just like the message from the movie, it's ok to watch a movie that is fun without being a masterpiece. Pixar has so many great movies, that I love how experimental they're trying to be now and I'm fine with that.
To be honest, this is the fist video I didn't end up watching whole because it's clear for the fist minutes of criticism how some can lack sheer empty or understanding of someone else's story, or even leave it alone if you didn't understood where it's Comming from the start, I Def didn't grew up in Canada, neither where born in a Chinese ascent family but the movie was relatable to me not only in the girl growing up scenarios but also in the mother's generational trauma in general, maybe some didn't had so much trouble telling their parents what they were into and stuff?
Mostly males, the ones that come up with this kinda critique and I get it, didn't surprised me your best character overall was her dad.
I find it amazing how people come up with the "I couldn't relate to a girl growing up" but can totally go enjoy a movie with a multi millionare wearing a costume at night to get some criminals.
But Allright not we all have to like all same things but this was so on POINT with some details for the ones that were there to see them and it bothers me so much everyone is like "it's bad" just because you can't get a grimpse of it or simply ignore the people who have the view for it at its most blantly state its... Even sad.
You should've watched the whole video then. He kinda touches the point you were trying to make here
Relating does not equal enjoying you can not relate to something and enjoy it
people don't enjoy batman because he's relatable, they just like him because he's cool
Are we just going to ignore the fact that the transformation into a Red Panda was supposed to be a euphemism for a woman's period. The entire story is about the transition from childhood to adulthood and conflict between fulfilling your parents expectations and being your own woman. Meimei can't just stay home for an entire month waiting for the Red Panda curse to subside because she has a life to live similar to how a woman experiencing her periods can't just stay home for a week dealing with all the pain, discomfort and whatever personality spikes that may or may not come with having a period. She has to go to school and learn to deal with it as part of her transition to adulthood.
NEVERMIND I REALLY SHOULD FINISH WATCHING THE VIDEO BEFORE COMMENTING BUT MY POINT STILL STANDS
The Awooga scene in the movie is gonna aged like milk, and Mei mei's Nightmare really creeped me out lol.
how?
Not really…..but whatever floats your boat ig
I will definitely say that the "Awooga" part killed me. Not in a "haha too funny" way, but more so in the way of killing interest in that scene all together. Maybe without that blurt and facial expression in that moment it would've been funnier, but it was definitely like a joke getting to the peak and then just falling off unsuccessfully.
I dont get why people dont love this movie i swear to god
cause people called the main character cringe when they don’t realize she’s in middle school so of course she and her friends are gonna be cringey
@@0-BlockGangster yes!!!!
I enjoyed the movie but it didn't feel like a Pixar movie. If someone told me it was an Illumination movie I probably would've believed them.
yeah it feels like a REALLY GOOD illumination film
If this was by Illumination, it would’ve been the first movie I loved by them. I generally don’t like their films (Despicable Me is probably their least bad movie).
I often disagree with your reviews, yet you're so gosh darn entertaining I keep watching them anyway. So...congrats? :-)
Yeah
Your take about the immigrant family thing was interesting. I thought the red panda can represent more than just that, more than just periods (if its just period then shouldn’t the grandma lost her panda powers?) i saw someone compare it to changing religions that are different than their families
both?
also if the grandma stops getting periods could it be considered
menoPAWS
Hmm
I didn't realize you could take pictures at school with a giant furry period. The symbolism is brilliant!
As someone who remembers her middle school years very clear, I felt connection with turning red on a spiritual level. I was every single one of Meimei's friends on different stages of my life, but ten times worse
i mean. them being annoying is like... kinda the whole point??? they're kids
"Mei eventually manages to knock out her mom." Best quote ever.
Can't believe you didn't mention the BANGER soundtrack
I don’t know about Asian mothers, but my mother is German and Irish and a TOTAL Ming. My mom was not open to talk about puberty or any bodily functions like Ming, but she took the opposite extreme where everyone in my household had to pretend that no form of growth or maturity happened to anyone ever because it made her uncomfortable. Other than that difference she was every bit as controlling, angry and terrifying. She is still in complete denial that I am post pubescent… and I am married… and 36. And whenever I am around her I am still expected to act like a little girl to such an extent that she completely alienates my husband by pretending he is just a boyfriend who will be gone soon. 🤦♀️
Also, the constant expectation of absolute perfection with no apologies was and is definitely a massive part of the relationship.
I love this movie. I love the animation. I love that they are realistic middle schoolers. I love the way they handle the the mother-daughter relationship. I love everything about it. It’s not made for EVERYONE to relate to, the movie knows it’s audience and I can appreciate that. It’s not a “Pixar Masterpiece” but it’s still a really good watch and it tells a good story.
the concept is there, but they could've done better. but still, this is the only Disney/pixar movie i can heavily relate to and *i love it*
I'm gonna say something absolutely blasphemous: I enjoyed Turning Red more than Encanto.
honestly, valid. i feel like encanto was a bit slow-paced, which is the exact opposite of what i regularly enjoy. turning red felt more energetic and individualized, plus turning red features coming-of-age topics many film-producers have shyed away from for what feels like forever now. i like it, it's a breath of fresh air.
while it does, for the most part, tie with encanto for me, it's definitely better (imo) in most categories. it wins, only by a bit, but it wins.
People only like Encanto because it's "deep" and the internet told them to like it. These same people hate turning red because it's not "deep" and the internet told them to hate it.
@@angelinacamacho8575 I have a feeling Encanto won in the internet's eyes partially because of the presence of LMM. He's REALLY popular in the vocal internet circles, methinks.
I'm Vietnamese, those depictions of the aunts and family are pretty much perfect, not unrealistic at all
People are only defending this movie, because it was made by Pixar
It’s like they didn’t want people to like the movie. They wanted the movie to be liked by people.
Notice how the Uber fans of the film are mostly women defending some of the film's bad aspects and yet have the gall to blame men for criticizing the movie.
LET PEOPLE ENJOY AND ALSO NOT ENJOY THINGS
this movie was actually such a feeling of relief for me. As someone who's grown up glued to the tv with cartoons and now going into working in animation, i'd say it's like i WISH there had been a movie like this when i was kid. Most animated movies have male leads, but not only does this have a female lead, its a coming of age story...i read so many comments on it being cringe, but like the cringe scenes were clearly meant to be cringe. Also as someone who had a over protective helicopter parent i found it so freakishly relatable, i don't think i've seen any film of any genre/medium that has done that trope so on point.
also hmm... interesting how everyone who says they dislike this movie is a man. Yet all the woman in the comments and women i know who've seen this .. love it.
interesting.
It doesn't sound very interesting though. It sounds more like the movie was targeted at a specific audience, and the things used to attract that audience turned some other audiences off...
It isn't interesting that my mother doesn't care about the avengers, but does care about twilight. People like different things. Some movies have broader appeal than others.
in the last part of your comment, the guys that dislike it dont relate or understand this while the women/girls do because theyve atleast experienced the awkward acts performed in the movie by the group before. funny how alot of people have a strong dislike against teenage girls
Just because something that is cringe was meant to be cringe, doesn't make it any better.
If a kid in a movie ticks you off... Likely pixar nailed the kid aspect... 👀 give them a point for that..
I genuinely don't think turning red deserves the hate that it gets. It was a very well done movie, and I've watched it at least four or five times
I think that all those cringy aspects are to connect more with the public, as we were all weirdos, if we see ourselves at that age we were cringe about It
Ngl i liked turning red... and then Ming told the origin of the red panda and i was like "HOLY FUCK I WANNA SEE THAT MOVIE! STUDIO GHIBLI PLEASE!" And then i realized "oh, so their going with this plot... yaaaaay😐"
your movie reviews are hella funnier than the rest, cuz of the opening skits lmao
I love the opening skit to
As a kid, I hate this movie with a passion. To everyone who says he "forgot what it was to be a teenager"- no. The movie sucks. I literally don't know anyone my age who acts like this.
because you werent born in 2000s and werent born in an area that was heavily influenced by this culture. dont know how the movie sucks because i personally enjoyed it even though it was cringy many times. ive seen alot of people act like this before. question, are you male? alot of people who dislike this movie are guys while most women actually enjoyed and related to the movie.
@@floof6896 I am female and I was actually born in the 2000s. Point still stands.
@@hype7398 "as a kid" funny how being born in the 2000s still makes you a kid as of now. wheres your logic gone off to?
@@floof6896 Use your brain. I know you have one. A person born in the 2000s can still legally be a minor.
I disagree of with MOST of your opinions but I completely agree with SOME. Also your intro was amzing.
The “ f---ing what!”got me every time 😂😂😂
All the characters were annoying and weird. And accurate. That's why I love it.
im trying so hard to remember that everyone has their own opinions but fuck this is hard
Pixar Quotes then: “Not everyone can be a great artist, but a great artist can come from anywhere” - Anton Ego
Pixar Quotes Now: “I LIKE GYRATING!!!” - MeiMei, a thirteen year old unstable furry
14:51 this is actually pretty accurate, I remember not so long ago me and my best friend got into an argument that ended up in a fist fight and major pain, only to forgive each other in 5 minutes