I grew up logging (I got out of it a long time ago) and I have always burned firewood here in northwest Montana. Over the years I have owned countless saws. Husqvarna, stihl, jonsered, homelite, poulon, etc. No matter what they all eventually wear out, break, or get stolen. The last bigger saw that I bought was a husqvarna 460 and it had starting and idling problems from day one. Even the shop where I bought it was never able to sort out the problem so I finally gave up on it and gave it to another person that had one. With that being said, I can buy 3 of these for the price of one husqvarna 460. Even if one broke down prematurely at worst it would be a great source for extra parts on the two remaining saws. Lol. Thank for your reviews. Keep on cutting.
Yes the purchase price of these saws and the reliability I've experienced is amazing I never go out in the woods with out atleast one of them in the truck and I'm not nice to them I've left them out in all kinds of weather leave gas in them all winter and they just keep running kinda like the old Ford pinto motors or the iron Duke or slant 6 they're just happy little motors
watched this video a couple of times and i bought the saw...wellsir its a keeper! cut about the same caliber oak log as he's a cuttin, it plowed right on thru it. if youre on the fence? id say get it ordered. it aint a bad saw for the money!
I have 3 saws . A Stihl MS 271 and a Chinese 52cc saw and a vemanor 58 cc saw . I love all of them . I have only had trouble with the last saw . It came with a bad chain I put a 18 inch bar and chain on it and it cus great .
wow Nice to see you running them another year. I have an Noetec ncs6200 20" about 14lbs with B&C its surprised me & become my go to use saw [im old n retired] ive a lill toy stihl 211c 18" [a fine trail saw on the atv] being retired my current saw use/work is limited & these small saws have been great. my big saws are also retired :) my thought is to add the salem master, it is a bit heavier, but looks to be reliable :) thank you for sharing!
I bought a 6220G and its been a great saw but has a tendency to vibrate the chain tensioner loose after a few cuts...have you experienced this and/or any advice on how to fix it?
parts are readily available online on amazon and ebay. these saws are zenoah g5200 clones. i have the Dereal pro 5820g with the 16 inch bar. its nearly identical to your 6220g. btw what oil and mix ratio are you using? i didn't see any smoke in this video so i'm guessing its not the 25:1 the manual states.
I was about to say I got a dereal on ebay for 115 bucks that looks exactly the same as this one. I don't think the 58 and 62cc models are actually different displacements
@anthonya3661 yes they disappeared but there are other colors and names that are the same saw. I ran them up to this year I was given a couple stihls with longer bars so less bending
Hey, I got 6220G. What is the max rpm you use to adjust it (H) screw? Specs shows 8500rpm, but it runs way more than that! I don’t know if you use Tech for rpm or just go by ear?
I do try my best to keep on top of my chain sharping... the thing to keep in mind for me I only harvest within my permit so it have to be windfall on the ground so I don't get to be supper picky I just take what I can find
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 just yesterday I aquired a brand new 6220H For 12$ at a garage sale. Used it for 8 minutes And tore it down and did some "blind porting" on it. And it is twice the saw it was before And just a FYI. Even tho these are advertised as 62 cc. They are in fact 51.98cc. So 52cc. That is based upon bore and stroke measurements Fish gill the muffler..light porting job and it ALMOST cuts like my echo cs500p
@@shannonwhitaker9630 porting it without timing your ports and just going by experience instead of math. It's a great way to destroy your saws performance if you're new to porting but is also relatively easy for the veteran 2 stroke enthusiast or mechanics.
The numbers are all over the board depending on who you ask. My personal opinion is that these saws have plenty of power to pull a 20" bar and that's all I ask it to do and they run great
My 6220G ran for 1 year, I just went out used it for an hour, now it won't start. It will run on straight starter fluid for 2 seconds, then it's out. the few times it has run I have to have it fully choked. I cannot find any support online for it off of Amazon, they seem to have disappeared, I was looking to try a new carb. I'm buying a Husqvarna.
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 rings and cylinder look good, it ran fine for a year, bought on 11/21/20. this weekend i ran it hard it started racing real bad. I killed it let it sit for 30 minutes and it never ran smooth again. Plug looks great. I've done their flood routine on it, has great compression. I mixed brand new fuel, now it only sputters with straight starter fluid. when I reached on Amazon they say they it's no longer available and no support is available. Thanks for your time, I was really excited when I first got this, bought it because your review!
@@brianx2640 Telling me that it's started racing did you check to make sure the carburetor didn't vibrate loose sounds like you ended up with a vacuum leak which would have caused it to run lean and take out the rings
Sounds like sitting up with ethanol fuel in it. In the past I noticed ethanol effects inside carbs in a little as two weeks. I don’t use ethanol fuel in any of my small engine equipment. Even with regular gas not a bad idea to run dry and remove any remaining fuel for long sit up periods.
For a home owner that would use this saw here and there. Do you recommend this saw for the money? Been looking at stihl but this saw beats it’s price by a lot. Looking at the same model as the yellow one. Do you recommend this for someone like myself? Thank you look forward to hearing from you
Absolutely this is a great saw for a homeowner I use it semi professional and I have made it through 30 cord before any problems I will be posting a video about that in the next 2 weeks when I get a chance and I can say it was my fault for the failure not the saw
14 months in and I'm the market for a Husq or Stihl, I got my first Stihl leaf blower to replace a Craftsman that I was constantly having to tinker with. My Stihl is pull the chord and go! Good luck.
I just posted a video on this but here are the interchange they use nearly the same bar as a mcculloch model 5000 Country line 1533704 Oregon bar 200PXBK095 .325x050x78 Pitch .325 Gauge 050 Length 78 drivers
Hi guy's, i am running semi synthetic 2 stroke oil at 50-1 in my salem , even though it says 25-1 on the saw , i believe this is for low grade 2 stroke oil , your thoughts please .
The G is 2 year old design little more plastic on the pull start the H is last yeara design metal pull start cover and different choke hold the I is current for this year and I have not had one in my hands yet
I just filled my chainsaw up yesterday walked out the garage the started it pulled it looked down the front of my leg and f****** oil everywhere I didn't put both caps on
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 to much for me but beautiful project you have there. Not many left like that! I love those old dodges! Thanks for the response 👍
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 definitely understand! 👍 Thanks for the video reviews! Enjoy hearing the wife and kid in them! Real life reviews! God bless 👍
I grew up logging (I got out of it a long time ago) and I have always burned firewood here in northwest Montana. Over the years I have owned countless saws. Husqvarna, stihl, jonsered, homelite, poulon, etc. No matter what they all eventually wear out, break, or get stolen. The last bigger saw that I bought was a husqvarna 460 and it had starting and idling problems from day one. Even the shop where I bought it was never able to sort out the problem so I finally gave up on it and gave it to another person that had one. With that being said, I can buy 3 of these for the price of one husqvarna 460. Even if one broke down prematurely at worst it would be a great source for extra parts on the two remaining saws. Lol.
Thank for your reviews. Keep on cutting.
Yes the purchase price of these saws and the reliability I've experienced is amazing I never go out in the woods with out atleast one of them in the truck and I'm not nice to them I've left them out in all kinds of weather leave gas in them all winter and they just keep running kinda like the old Ford pinto motors or the iron Duke or slant 6 they're just happy little motors
I'm buying Salem from now on
watched this video a couple of times and i bought the saw...wellsir its a keeper! cut about the same caliber oak log as he's a cuttin, it plowed right on thru it. if youre on the fence? id say get it ordered. it aint a bad saw for the money!
I have 3 saws . A Stihl MS 271 and a Chinese 52cc saw and a vemanor 58 cc saw . I love all of them . I have only had trouble with the last saw . It came with a bad chain I put a 18 inch bar and chain on it and it cus great .
wow Nice to see you running them another year.
I have an Noetec ncs6200 20" about 14lbs with B&C its surprised me & become my go to use saw [im old n retired]
ive a lill toy stihl 211c 18" [a fine trail saw on the atv]
being retired my current saw use/work is limited & these small saws have been great.
my big saws are also retired :)
my thought is to add the salem master, it is a bit heavier, but looks to be reliable :)
thank you for sharing!
So the 14" is a great limb saw and the more its run the better it gets
The gray saw runs faster then the large Yellow one but both work great
You are right mine came in today love it I do believe it will out run a husqvarna
I put a new chain on the old lady every year myself. She ain't got loose on me yet.
Great review thanks so much!
Nice saws , I just bought a baumr ag sx52 52cc chain saw 20 ,, bar it's comming in the post it looks like a still chain saw red white 135.00$
I bought a 6220G and its been a great saw but has a tendency to vibrate the chain tensioner loose after a few cuts...have you experienced this and/or any advice on how to fix it?
parts are readily available online on amazon and ebay. these saws are zenoah g5200 clones. i have the Dereal pro 5820g with the 16 inch bar. its nearly identical to your 6220g.
btw what oil and mix ratio are you using? i didn't see any smoke in this video so i'm guessing its not the 25:1 the manual states.
I was about to say I got a dereal on ebay for 115 bucks that looks exactly the same as this one. I don't think the 58 and 62cc models are actually different displacements
i am happy with my salem pro 6220h its a beast and hella does the job..
Cool video. Do you still run this and how is this holding up? Also Has Salem master change their name don’t see these on Amazon anymore?
@anthonya3661 yes they disappeared but there are other colors and names that are the same saw. I ran them up to this year I was given a couple stihls with longer bars so less bending
Salem, dereal, and wemars are all the same saw, all those saws are 50cc according to piston size and stroke what I’m told.
I noticed the grey and black one was cheaper online but yet they have the same motor and specs. Why is that?
Your guess is as good as mine I know that model is a couple years old so that could be it
Hey, I got 6220G. What is the max rpm you use to adjust it (H) screw? Specs shows 8500rpm, but it runs way more than that!
I don’t know if you use Tech for rpm or just go by ear?
@rayphoto7358 to be honest I never looked at the book I just tune to run best for what I'm cutting and where probably around 13k rpm
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141
Great! Thanks for reply! It’s sound like Banshee…very high RPM…😊
I take it as you don't file your own chains?
I cut a shitload of wood (40 cord plus a year). I run a chain till it hits the line on the cutter
I do try my best to keep on top of my chain sharping... the thing to keep in mind for me I only harvest within my permit so it have to be windfall on the ground so I don't get to be supper picky I just take what I can find
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 just yesterday I aquired a brand new 6220H
For 12$ at a garage sale.
Used it for 8 minutes And tore it down and did some "blind porting" on it. And it is twice the saw it was before
And just a FYI. Even tho these are advertised as 62 cc. They are in fact 51.98cc. So 52cc. That is based upon bore and stroke measurements
Fish gill the muffler..light porting job and it ALMOST cuts like my echo cs500p
@@EcSsAwS I'll have to give that a try
@Eric Salyer….What does “Blind porting” involve ?
@@shannonwhitaker9630 porting it without timing your ports and just going by experience instead of math. It's a great way to destroy your saws performance if you're new to porting but is also relatively easy for the veteran 2 stroke enthusiast or mechanics.
I have a 6220 h , on the salem website it states its a 62 cc , but on my saw the sticker says 54cc . Wonder if anyone knows what's correct
The numbers are all over the board depending on who you ask. My personal opinion is that these saws have plenty of power to pull a 20" bar and that's all I ask it to do and they run great
My 6220G ran for 1 year, I just went out used it for an hour, now it won't start. It will run on straight starter fluid for 2 seconds, then it's out. the few times it has run I have to have it fully choked. I cannot find any support online for it off of Amazon, they seem to have disappeared, I was looking to try a new carb. I'm buying a Husqvarna.
Pull the plug and check your cylinder it sounds like it ran lean and cooked the rings and cylinder
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 rings and cylinder look good, it ran fine for a year, bought on 11/21/20. this weekend i ran it hard it started racing real bad. I killed it let it sit for 30 minutes and it never ran smooth again. Plug looks great. I've done their flood routine on it, has great compression. I mixed brand new fuel, now it only sputters with straight starter fluid. when I reached on Amazon they say they it's no longer available and no support is available. Thanks for your time, I was really excited when I first got this, bought it because your review!
@@brianx2640 Telling me that it's started racing did you check to make sure the carburetor didn't vibrate loose sounds like you ended up with a vacuum leak which would have caused it to run lean and take out the rings
Sounds like sitting up with ethanol fuel in it. In the past I noticed ethanol effects inside carbs in a little as two weeks. I don’t use ethanol fuel in any of my small engine equipment.
Even with regular gas not a bad idea to run dry and remove any remaining fuel for long sit up periods.
sounds good
Sob looks n sounds good
For a home owner that would use this saw here and there. Do you recommend this saw for the money? Been looking at stihl but this saw beats it’s price by a lot. Looking at the same model as the yellow one. Do you recommend this for someone like myself? Thank you look forward to hearing from you
Absolutely this is a great saw for a homeowner I use it semi professional and I have made it through 30 cord before any problems I will be posting a video about that in the next 2 weeks when I get a chance and I can say it was my fault for the failure not the saw
14 months in and I'm the market for a Husq or Stihl, I got my first Stihl leaf blower to replace a Craftsman that I was constantly having to tinker with. My Stihl is pull the chord and go! Good luck.
Which one is more powerful or are they the same performance
Equal power f turns more rpm so it cuts a bit faster then the g
Impressive......what's the vibration to the operator like?
About the same at any other modern saw
What's the difference between the f and g? And do you know if the Garwinner is as good?
Garwinner seems like the same saw with a different paint sceam there all mcculloch knock offs
The f Revs a little higher then the g but both are great
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 thank you so much!
Fixing to order one do you know if they will run your standard Oregon replacement bar and chains?
I just posted a video on this but here are the interchange they use nearly the same bar as a mcculloch model 5000
Country line
1533704
Oregon bar
200PXBK095
.325x050x78
Pitch .325
Gauge 050
Length 78 drivers
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 thank you sir
Hi guy's, i am running semi synthetic 2 stroke oil at 50-1 in my salem , even though it says 25-1 on the saw , i believe this is for low grade 2 stroke oil , your thoughts please .
Lowest recommended by manufacturer is 40:1
I think you should be milling that log with the chainsaws you got. That's some good wood.
If I had a self loader and a mill I'd never make any firewood 😆
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 Have you by chance seen the Black Max brand they have at Walmart? I've been eyeing those as well.....
@@jgz6989 I have seen them I cannot speak to the quality as I have not tried any of them for myself
Do you know what the difference between the 6220G and the 6220H is Amazon’s description seems the same for both. Has anyone used both?
The G is 2 year old design little more plastic on the pull start the H is last yeara design metal pull start cover and different choke hold the I is current for this year and I have not had one in my hands yet
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 thanks
I just filled my chainsaw up yesterday walked out the garage the started it pulled it looked down the front of my leg and f****** oil everywhere I didn't put both caps on
Did the same thing with bar oil couple weeks ago with my salem master 58
Nice video! How much for the stepside Dodge?😁
10k
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 to much for me but beautiful project you have there. Not many left like that! I love those old dodges! Thanks for the response 👍
@@roostercoggburn7436 I understand I'm high on the price but if I'm gonna sell I have some high bills that need attention
@@mountianmansfamilygarage3141 definitely understand! 👍 Thanks for the video reviews! Enjoy hearing the wife and kid in them! Real life reviews! God bless 👍
Permit to cut wood ?
When cutting on state land I'm allowed 3 permits for a total of 6 cord of wood per year
is there a difference between the two of them?
I've been trying to find that out for weeks now and it's like pulling teeth to get anyone to say if there's a difference.