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Story 2 : As much as I hate being the one to say this, noone would have cared the way they did if it was the other way around. Cheating just shouldn't be waved off so easily.
Story 5: and here we go with the people pleasing Look its simple. The brother didnt take OP and the wife in. He cannot expect OP and the wife to take him in. Treat people how you want to be treated. This is not a payback or revenge thing. It is a “you taught me how to treat you”. So no OP is not the jerk.
The Narrator always defends family or is more lenient on them in situations like these. Just because they are family doesn't mean you own them anything
Also there was a whole bunch of people to house, inc. kids for an entire week and that's not something that should just be expected from op. The family just wants to save money on the hotel. There is already some resentment that op is feeling so I would say no and let thing cool off
story 2: If she 'loved' him so much, then why would she do something like that in the first place that would obviously crush him. Cheaters are only sorry they got caught and possibly the most vital part of marriage besides love, trust, is just shattered.
That's what I was about to say, SHE cheated, SHE'S NOT 'BrAvE' for admitting she was wrong. You do something wrong, you're supposed to admit to it, you don't get rewarded for admitting you did something bad especially NOT when it can destroy a marriage, she broke the marriage, she doesn't get sh!t other than the divorce and knowledge her actions have consequences. If op's friends and family truly cared, they'd support him wanting a divorce and getting one, NOT HER and NOT staying in a marriage when she's going to do it again.
Story 2: RUN!!! Change your number, go no contact to the family and friends. They've all lost their goddam minds. She cheated on you and then went PUBLIC with it and is being called brave? If you cheated on her and posted about it and how sorry you were you'd be slammed left and right by family and friends. She isn't sorry she cheated. She's sorry that you caught her and she's trying to save face. Plus she went begging to your parents and they ate trying to convince you to keep her. They've lost their minds and don't have your best interest if they want you to go back to someone who hurt you.
Story 2 I wouldn’t trust her she’s obviously trying to get sympathy for her actions she probably will cheat again you can’t trust she won’t tell your family and others to back off
Last story: I am thinking that OP is making it sound much more petty than it actually was. He didn't want to hear that his children's health was at risk and that he was responsible. Those kids are far beyond fat, they're morbidly obese. Hopefully this was a wakeup call for OP.
Yeah but the sister didn't have to say things like "her butt has its own zip code". He's putting op in a situation where he has to defend his daughters or feel like he betrayed them. The sister should have been less confrontational.
He definitely is in denial 240 @ 5’8 is crazy especially for a female somebody had to tell him and considering she is family to him I don’t know if anyone else would be more suited to tell him imo and she also at least said it in private not in front of the daughters. That is really unhealthy if he really cares about them he should tell them himself.
Story #1: I don't know where to start other than it's so sus to more or less encourage your kid to basically get by on their looks. I don't care what age they are, it's ridiculous as hell. Story #2: I went through this with my ex-fiancee. She told me (through Messenger, not face-to-face, mind you) that she cheated on me.I broke off the engagement immediately. Then she had the audacity to show up at my house asking if we could have another shot, to which I as politely as possible rejected the offer. It hurt like hell when she broke my heart. Point being: Why would anyone wanna put themselves through that emotional hell again with a cheating significant other?
Story 5 isn't an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, it's more like turnabout is fair play. Is unfair to ask for special considerations that you yourself do not offer. Just as it was his choice not to let them stay at his house It is the OP's choice to say he can't stay at theirs. Not the jerk
Sometimes when you go through a traumatic event with someone like cheating your no longer attracted to them the same way. Its awful to beg someone to stay at that point. You’d be doing you both a disservice.
Yes and when trust is broken like that you might feel like you can never love them anymore or even hate towards them. You just can't go back to how it was before. It's idiotic to ask op to give a second chance to his wife after such a major breach of trust.
"eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. if somebody doesn't help you when you're in need, you're in no way a jerk for not helping when they turn around acting entitled to your help. talk about a dumb opinion.
The people who used that phrase don't understand the fundamental point of it. What the OP was doing was not an eye for an eye and it wasn't revenge. Turnabout is fair play
Eye for an eye is in its nature an active behavior. Like you lost my phone so I'll break yours. And I agree there are mire civil ways to go about it (e. g. compensation). But that's not the situation in hand. This one is just about refusing to do a favor after his (which was less demanding) was refused - it's about reciprocity. Op made the right choice because you can't be expected to give without being given something in return. Also, maybe Op would have been a jerk if it was some emergency but it was just the family wanting to go on vacation and saving money on accomodation (and maybe food and transport). Family should be there in times of need but a vacation is not a necessity.
At what point does someone need to approach things in a gentler way. One of them is 5’7, 18, and 240lbs iirc. She is either obese or morbidly obese. That is not good. Our heart and blood does not care about “body shaming”. The rate of heart disease and diabetes does not care for “body shaming”. Could the aunt of been a tad less bullyish, sure. But Op still needed this. He is basically going to end up sending his daughters to meet their mother due to his negligence.
Story 5 I disagree is not fair for op to have to let the brother stay if the brother won’t let them is basically giving the brother a Free place to crash for a meal etc
In story number 1, why was it important to describe the student as well developed? In what way was this important to the story? I don't think it is appropriate for a principal to describe a student in this way.
Ahahaha, shoot, back in my day, I went to a public school wearing a 7 up shirt and got told to either turn my shirt inside out or change, lol, I dunno if y'all remember the shirts that had on the front "Make 7" and on the back it said "Up Yours" 😂😂 yes, I got in a little trouble with THAT shirt, lol
Story 2: I’ve had conversations with SO on what would be a deal breaker and cheating is always mentioned, once you go down that road don’t think you can come back. Story 5: All these self righteous people using that phrase when in reality it’s just the BIL wants you to do him and his family every favor while never reciprocating them.
Story 2 - all she can do is accept the consequences of her actions. She should have had that mindset BEFORE cheating. Then she would not have to deal with what happened after. The victimized spouse has every right to end the marriage after finding out the other spouse has cheated. Cheating should NEVER be waved off, or minimized. It also means that if he does choose to stay either her, it’ll NEVER, EVER be the same. An irreparable scar has been made, something I think even time itself will find it difficult if not impossible to erase. She did this to herself. Let her enjoy the fruits of her labors.
For the travel story, No, OP is not the jerk for telling the people that always make him get a hotel to do the same. The whole "Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" is a lazy cop out for avoiding justice. It assumes the person seeking justice for their put out eye is too dumb to know when to quit, which clearly the reader is. Why do you keep siding with at least one jerk in almost every video you make?
Exactly. In my experience, these self righteous smug people who use that phrase use it to gaslight people and tell them “Be a doormat because I don’t like drama unless it happens to me, then I want it to be everyone’s problem and demand blood!”.
File those divorce papers and make a post that anyone who supports her and continues to push for you to take her back can exit your life along with her. Cheaters dont change. Shes sorry only because she got caught
First Story: The mom is just looking for an excuse to rekindle an old score with school admin for scolding her for dressing in a salacious manner at her daughter’s age. Second Story: Romantic cheaters should never be forgiven, particularly when married. The people taking the wife’s side are stupid and most likely cheaters, cucks, simps, enablers, or were never in a relationship. Her parents are indulging/spoiling enablers. OP’s parents are backstabbing scum. OP, it can and WILL happen again. Break up with her. Story 3: I hate guys such as Kevin. Sexist pigs. Story 4: This is why I avoid working in fundraisers, NPOs, or charities. I won’t even do community service. Poorly coordinated, and people tend to be extra abusive to volunteers. Story 5: You reap what you sow. The brother refused to let OP and fiancé stay at his house, so he shouldn’t be allowed to stay at OP’s. Also, OP’s fiancé is horrible for siding with him. Narrator is an idiot for the “eye for an eye” argument and for calling OP the jerk. Story 6: Lilly is a Karen in training. OP did nothing wrong, her sister is stupid. Story 7: What!? Who is that sister to judge ANYONE!? No class…Even if the daughters are f-a-t, if it isn’t affecting her directly then it is none of her business. I bet the sister binges and purges. As a guest, don’t insult your host or family of host in their own home.
If my friends and family told me to take back my cheating ex, I would look them right in the eye and ask them "If that was your partner, would you take them back?" and let them think that over.
Story 2: 1. If she loved him, she wouldnt have cheated in the first place. 2. Cheating wasnt the mistake, *_getting caught was the mistake._* 3. Only cheating is one thing, cheating 4 times in an affair with someone, only showing remorse after getting busted is another thing. 4. If he had cheated on her, she would have likely tossed him to tge wolves. Verdict, he was being clear and rational, and everyone else were being hyper-emotional and irrational. I hope he gets his divorce, especially in absentia.
story 1: the moment the karen said "this is more important than that" i would've been like "i'm sure the police will find the trespassing charges i'm going to press important" (OP just told her she can't be there)
Last story, as op said the sister is a very blunt person she doesn't sugar coat anything. I thought the sister was being a jerk about it until the op mentioned the girls weight .
As a fat woman, wished someone told my parents to stop overfeeding me. And start looking for other stuff that fast food and TV. So. Idk why it's a tabu Thema. Don't tell the children, but tell the parents so that maybe some things can change
Story 2: op's first instinct was correct. People don't sleep with other people if they truly love someone else. Only reason she doesn't want to get divorced is because she is gaining something by being married. We don't know why, there could be several reasons, maybe that cheating partner isn't free (women are nesters and don't want to be alone, so op will have to do until she can replace him), maybe money and house and way of living, maybe even something so small that she doesn't want to get dumped, she wants to be the one who does that dumping, many women have massive ego. When man doesn't want them, they have to get him back and if and when they do, they don't actually want him anymore. One thing is certain, what ever that reason is, it's not the love she is feeling towards op. One saying, that i use often, fits very nicely also for this case. "Don't waste your youth by being with someone wrong"
That isn't the point, he just need to take the OP into is house the frist time he refuse was understandable, but not the second time this is in order words "you don't want me and your sister (wife) in your house, I don't want or have the obligation to let you stay in mine"
Story 2 op your wife cheated if she loved you she wouldn’t have cheated in the first place you need to get rid of cheating wife don’t get back with her she will only hurt you again and don’t listen to her family and your family they have nothing to do with your marriage they need to mind their business and stay out of it. This is between you and your cheating wife do what is right for you and remember always listen to your heart your heart will always tell you right thing to do
The second one, I think he should get back with her. Everyone says he should divorce her but the outcome there is NOBODY is happy. It’s not a good outcome. He expressed he still loves her, and she expressed that she regrets it. Yes, she broke her vows, but he should give her a second chance. While it’s true that if she truly loved him she wouldn’t have the affair, on the other hand, why in the hell would she go so far to get him back if she didn’t truly love him? After all she’s doing? Honestly, all I’m saying is that, I think he should take her back.
for story 2 mistakes happen, but mistakes don't last 1 AND A HALF MONTHS. Thats when it no longer becomes a mistake that's a choice and a lifestyle. I can forgive one-night affairs if they were drunk, and it was a stranger and they barley remember that night and they tell you and feel bad. Thats a mistake but doing it for a month and a half is not.
With the last story I gotta say that the aunt is an issue with how she brought it up. You can't insult someone's kids then expect them to listen to you. The daughters weight is a concern not a joke. I would have reacted the same way. How would she know that the parent wasn't already talking to them about it? No parent would tolerate the kind of verbal abuse about their kids. The parent might have already bewn concerned and then had someone stomp on their last nerve over it.
I didn't hear anything about kids in story 2 so it's easy for the guy to make clean break. Even if they had kids still get a divorce. If she did once chances are she might do again. Trust once broken is hard to get back.
The family not wanting them to stay at their place yet want to stay at OP'S place. Personally I may be petty but I would let them stay when theywant. Then when we go there and they refuse. Just simply sit there and go "Gee..... its sooooooo nice of me to allow all of you stay with us at absolutely no charge to you and your family yet when we come by. You want us at arms length. Just like a Karen and Ken would want. Stay away from us while we take advantage of you."
Story 2: okay, so life with depressions, loosing a lot of family very early on, having trouble keeping friendships alive, having had wrong friends and the right friends loosing both an a goof and both on a bad basis, the best one to an od, having been mentally addicted to a person, been in an abusive relationship, being bullied to minor extends, but for 4 years straight except for hollydays, all have shaped my morals towards all kinds of relationships that I can sum them up in two basic rules I go by both contious as well as just how I feel about things. 1) I will forgive you almost everything as long as you yourself know, accept and admit your wrongdoing by yourself. Depending on how hurtful the thing is I need more or less self-courage on this one. 2) It's not a bad thing to loose a friend if your characters don't match, but everyone deserves a second chance if the time you have had no contact would be sufficient for a person to either change bad traits or for both to grow to be dynamic enough to embrace or ignore your differences. So here it's pretty easy: this is such an emensly hurtful thing, that was planed in a way that it could have gone on for ages, because of the second phone, that the only way I would forgive her under rule 1, would be if she had come over, sat you down told you and herself told you that if you wanna divorce she understands and she still loves you etc. And I am not saying I would necessarily forgive her here, because it is still such a hurtful thing to do and again the fact that this wasn't a heat of the moment kinda thing, that it was planed out, makes it really heavy. So should you give her a second chance now? No. Absolutely not. She didn't admit anything to you, she got caught and THEN it felt bad, she felt bad for getting caught, not for cheating. Chances are she will do it again, because she just is that kind of person. Chances are what she is taking from this is to be even more secretive next time, to play you safer so that you don't hire a PI. Then she will do this for years.
Story 3: what if the guy just found it difficult to speak to the opposite gender? I know a few men and women who find it truly difficult to speak to the opposite gender, to make the assumption that he's being sexist without taking that into consideration is in itself a little bit sexist, but yeah 80% likelihood he was being a bit sexist.
Story 5 : I do see where OP is coming from. If they are such a big family that they need *3 rooms* , then they can definitely spare space for 2 adults. But we don’t know how much space you can spare for them (as you seem to live only 2 of you). But this is a jerk-ish situation, but with a valid reason. Oh, and also Story 2 : OP, don’t care bout those people. They don’t feel you, or how much you’re hurt. Once a cheater, Always a cheater. If she loves you so much, why would she have a dam fudging affair with a friend. She isn’t brave for admitting her affair. She admitted after she was caught and got ratted out. She dug her own grave. Dam she did it with that other guy 4 times! She lost your trust. And she saw that coming.
The story with the guy's house near the ocean and the wife's relatives not letting them stay twice is NTA. It's completely understandable why he's annoyed as they were turned away twice for BS reasons. In fact, if I were him, I'd use the same excuse the brother used twice. If they're that concerned about cvid, then asking to stay wouldn't have even crossed their minds... the in-laws didn't want to be inconvenienced but have no problem inconveniencing OP. So, therefore, OP is NTA. A question to his wife, if you just "Do things for family and not expect anything in return" does that magically not count for your brother or...?
Last story- Honestly- At first I thought the aunt was the jerk until I heard the girls were around 240 pounds!!! That's not just overweight, that's severely obese and they need help!!! Sure, the aunt could have phrased it better, but like- dude the girls need help
2nd story: Dude cheating is unforgivable. Op should leave his wife for someone who will actually be loyal, you’re right the wife will have a second chance with someone else. Hopefully she can keep it in her pants the second time
This isn’t a one time sleight for a one time revenge (eye for an eye). This is an ongoing issue and right now it seems this person thinks he can treat them like dirt and they’ll still treat him like family. He believes he’s better then them. So the only way they have a chance of getting him to treat them better is to return his treatment of them. They are showing they will not stand for his use and abuse. (You will reap from me as you’ve sown to me.) They will respond in one of three ways. Will shrug it off and nothing will change in which you break even, they will see their behavior is wrong after being in the receiving end and start treating you better, or they will cut you out of their lives, but if being treated the way they treat you is considered grounds for being cutoff then you’re better off without them. No outcome is a loss! As for the comment about family doing stuff for family, I’d say, “EXACTLY! And they did not treat us like family when we needed a place to stay from them. So where was the whole “family helps family” rationale when we needed help? Yet suddenly we’re expected to abide by that code at our detriment for their benefit? No! They clearly don’t see us as family but as chumps who will give them whatever help they need because “family helps family” and since they do this “without expecting anything in return we’ll just roll over and take it when they shut the door in our face while we’re asking for their help! You’ve been brainwashed sweetheart!”
Wife and affair story... a mistake is once, maybe twice at most. Three strikes you are out, and four times is definitely not a mistake. If you wouldn't have caught her. it would still be going on. If she truly loved you, she wouldn't have committed adultery and broke her vows. My opinion. I would never cheat, and if my husband ever did, even once, marriage would be over! Simple! Divorce your wife. How can you ever trust her again? With no trust, there's no good marriage. Good luck!
For the final story OP’s sister was a little harsh but she’s entirely right their weight is very unhealthy and needs to be lost otherwise OP will wake up to his daughters dead from a heart attack. And before y’all start saying how can you be so mean why would you wish something so awful. I’m in the same boat as these two girls I’m extremely overweight and I know that I’m extremely at risk for arthritis and I don’t doubt that heart issues for me are further up the line. OP cannot see what’s going on with their daughters and claim that it’s healthy.
he has a large family and want to stay at your house. no they need to get a hotel/apartment if you have a big family you can afford a hotel/apartment for vacation
The sec story, if op see this, remember, don’t let other influence your decision. As you said, she admit to having sex 4 times. She said it was a mistake but it’s not. It would’ve been more believable if she did it ONCE. Even if she’s genuine remorseful, it will never change the fact she broke your trust and she can NEVER get that trust back, no matter how much you guys do couple therapy. Imo, leave her as she is no longer worth it. She may still love you, but as I said earlier, you won’t trust her the same. You won’t see her the same. In the back of your mind, you will always wonder if she is cheating again. Even at the slightest change in her behavior that could mean nothing. That paranoia may never disappear if you stay with her…
I wish this guy would in the description or whatever you call it put the numbers for the different part of the stories just in case people want to hear one story and not the rest
Yes I already get that things have changed over the last 30 years can women who do just about anything from construction to law enforcement truck driving computer designs you name it
Story 5: No jerk, but the other guy is (can't house 2 adults, but expects OP to house a large family?! WTF) as well as the narrator - are you a religious nut or what with your stupid "eye for an eye" line? If someone (figuratively) punches my eye out, they owe me losing one as well. Everyone deserves to be treated the way he treats the people around him. Also, no one's allowed to expect special treatment just because they're family. Family is about making sacrifices for EACH OTHER, not just one person for the other.
this narrator has the most mid takes, for the the last story the OP is definitely making it sound worse than it actually was, what grown adult would say "the kids butt probably has a zipcode", "shes probably wider than she is taller", OP is literally in denial of their insanely unhealthy lifestyles and refuses to believe hes doing anything wrong. He is part of the reason obesity is such a huge problem in America, if they want to live a long prosperous healthy life OP needs to make some changes.
not here to be negative but i completely disagree with story 5 o.p was not the jerk because it's common sense like his wife said " family do stuff for each other without expecting anything in return." Right? Then if his family have no problem housing the two of them whenever they visit but her family makes them get a hotel every time they visit they can get a hotel just like o.p had too.
20:40 ngl, the sister isnt wrong in the slightest. She came off with a bitchy attitude but the message is true. You need to wake up and fix their behavior
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Hi, blind person here, shut up. Wow! You mean we would never have known that different people have different skin colors? Well how devistating for humanity.
@@gotenblack2542Well, it's clear that he understands how hurt the OP is by the cheating and is not saying he should take her back so that's not an issue. The issue is the story 5 take. You treat people how you want to be treated. If you don't house your visiting family, then why should you expect that level of kindness that you've never shown.
@@_aballa_In the second story he is basically telling to the OP to forgive her and give another change, if that is not taking her back what is? This isn't something she can say sorry about, she knew what she was doing, if the OP take her back she is going to do it again but this time better, for lado of better words. Once a cheater, forever a cheater, especially if there is no consequences.
@@DarkHeartTheEmo he says her being sorry isn't the issue, the fact that the trust has been broken on that level is damaging to someone and the cheater just has to accept that there isn't anything she can do to make right. At least, that's what I got from him.
Last Story .. the kid's butt has a zipcode ? Funny and insulting at the same time the truth hurts but lets see in the end who as the last laugh the girls are still young when they turn 18 you will see how those baby fats will be gone they will be conscious and who knows they will get slim by then
Story one. Daughter knew she wore an inappropriate top and wanted attention. It back fired. As for dress code when I went to school we could wear tank tops. Story two. Once a cheater always a cheater. Story three Spot on.
Ya'll are calling the brother in the last story being in denial or whatever for being unaware of his daughters weights, but the sister is a jerk for body shaming and bullying her nieces. If she truly was concerned for their well-being, she could've said, "Hey, I am noticing that your girls are starting to become overweight for their ages, and I want to help you out so they won't have any complications later on in life." Don't get me wrong, I am all for telling like it is, but if you just straight up start insulting, then you are just being a bully.
he definitely put a spin on it, parents lifestyles rub off on their children, i severely doubt she actually said "your daughter is wider than she is tall", OP is j in denial and needs to help his daughters.
@@sync4183 Like I said, even if that was the case, if the sister truly cared about his daughters, she wouldn’t have started by insulting them in the first place.
The second story. The original poster shouldn't get back with his wife and she doesn't deserve another chance. From my point of view she says she did it 4 times, she had 4 oppertunities to decline, she had 4 chances to say lets stop this but every time she met up with the friend she accepted his offer and only really stopped once she got caught. Then making a big show of it to everyone that she regrets it, that she deserves to have one more chance but I think she had enough chances and she should live with the consequences and let the original poster move on with his life and find someone else that hasn't shredded his trust to pieces.
Last story: I am going to double message because I think this is worth its own message. Listen, weight matters. Fat shaming and body positivity only come into play when medical things prevent weight loss/mess with the body/are things that cannot be fixed. For example, height, d*ck size, etc. Weight through overeating and under exercise is fixable. OP is the jerk for defending and encouraging the weight situation of his girls. They are not at healthy weights. The sister has it right. When the “freshmen 20” hits that one girl she is going to be at or near 300lbs. Heart disease, diabetes, etc does not care about how we feel about weight. Its fine to be confident in yourself and to be happy for your children. But to be delusional and say they are fine…no that is negligence and that is automatic jerk behavior
I think it’s important to mention though that long term health and weight management really can’t happen when it’s coming from a point of shamming. It’s hard to take care of something if you hate it. It really needs to come from a place of health, balance & taking care of yourself properly. Which can look different for everyone and when needed should be professionals who have the knowledge to help that particular person figure out what’s needed and what works for them. Body positivity doesn’t have to equal fat positivity and can actually be very valuable in the process of becoming healthy, solely because if you care for something you are much much more likely to take care of it and maintain that care. Sure, shame can cause change, but your likely never going to feel like it’s “good enough” and way easier to fall back into old behaviors and give up (or go too far and end up with an eating disorder, which also severely impacts your health).
@@rowennaclark6175 So I agree, on the idea of not being a dick. However, it was OP that the individual was talking to and not the children. At that point, with where they are at, maybe crude messaging will work. It works sometimes. As for body positivity. My stance on it is this. It only exists on what cannot be changed. If individuals have medical issues preventing weight loss okay that is fine. If someone is eating fast food everyday and becoming morbidly obese, that is an issue. So yeah, OP is the jerk for letting it get as far as it had.
Story 2: The wife wasn't getting something from the husband so she looked outside to find fulfillment. Last story: yeah the father is totally responsible for his daughters. But the 18 y/o is responsible for herself, they need to get their weight under control or face problems later. The story of the brother that won't allow them to stay but asked if he could stay, NOPE, stay in a hotel. Actually I prefer to stay in hotel/motel anyway.
"The wife wasn't getting something from nus and so she looked outside to find fullfilment." oh so is okay to cheat, I bet if was your partner doing this you would sing a different story, I hope you aren't in a relationship, because is cleary that you are going to cheat on your partner.
So we are saying cheating is fine? Okay then everytime a guy cheats on his gf/wife its because she wasnt giving him another s*x. Gotcha. Totally makes sense. It’s not like she was just a b*tch for breaking her vows
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No you are not a jerk cuz from what I see from this story she was trying to Fat shame them
Story 2 : As much as I hate being the one to say this, noone would have cared the way they did if it was the other way around. Cheating just shouldn't be waved off so easily.
True
also she was not brave for admitting it BECAUSE SHE GOT CAUGHT SHE ADMITTED IT AFTER GETTING CUAGHT
Yup
If you really loved your boy friend you wouldn’t have had an affair with another guy in the first place
I agree…
Story 5: and here we go with the people pleasing
Look its simple. The brother didnt take OP and the wife in. He cannot expect OP and the wife to take him in. Treat people how you want to be treated. This is not a payback or revenge thing. It is a “you taught me how to treat you”. So no OP is not the jerk.
ya idk why the narrator called op out like that
Op is never the ah there, i dont know why the narrator is like that
Yeah, the narrator is a m or on for saying that.
The Narrator always defends family or is more lenient on them in situations like these. Just because they are family doesn't mean you own them anything
Also there was a whole bunch of people to house, inc. kids for an entire week and that's not something that should just be expected from op. The family just wants to save money on the hotel. There is already some resentment that op is feeling so I would say no and let thing cool off
story 2: If she 'loved' him so much, then why would she do something like that in the first place that would obviously crush him. Cheaters are only sorry they got caught and possibly the most vital part of marriage besides love, trust, is just shattered.
The second one she did it all by herself. She cheated and broke trust and the marriage vows!!
Screw everyone else just divorce her
Ya
That's what I was about to say, SHE cheated, SHE'S NOT 'BrAvE' for admitting she was wrong. You do something wrong, you're supposed to admit to it, you don't get rewarded for admitting you did something bad especially NOT when it can destroy a marriage, she broke the marriage, she doesn't get sh!t other than the divorce and knowledge her actions have consequences. If op's friends and family truly cared, they'd support him wanting a divorce and getting one, NOT HER and NOT staying in a marriage when she's going to do it again.
Story 2: RUN!!! Change your number, go no contact to the family and friends. They've all lost their goddam minds. She cheated on you and then went PUBLIC with it and is being called brave? If you cheated on her and posted about it and how sorry you were you'd be slammed left and right by family and friends. She isn't sorry she cheated. She's sorry that you caught her and she's trying to save face. Plus she went begging to your parents and they ate trying to convince you to keep her. They've lost their minds and don't have your best interest if they want you to go back to someone who hurt you.
Story 2 I wouldn’t trust her she’s obviously trying to get sympathy for her actions she probably will cheat again you can’t trust she won’t tell your family and others to back off
Last story: I am thinking that OP is making it sound much more petty than it actually was. He didn't want to hear that his children's health was at risk and that he was responsible. Those kids are far beyond fat, they're morbidly obese. Hopefully this was a wakeup call for OP.
Agreed.
except it doesn't sound like concern
@@GiordanDiodato Right, so I think OP put a spin on it to make themselves feel better about the situation.
Yeah but the sister didn't have to say things like "her butt has its own zip code". He's putting op in a situation where he has to defend his daughters or feel like he betrayed them. The sister should have been less confrontational.
Yeah, I'd say she was in the right for being concerned...but it doesn't change the fact that she went about it in a horrible way.
The last story.. I was on OPs side till the end when he mentioned his daughters weights. It kinda sounds like he's in denial.
He definitely is in denial 240 @ 5’8 is crazy especially for a female somebody had to tell him and considering she is family to him I don’t know if anyone else would be more suited to tell him imo and she also at least said it in private not in front of the daughters. That is really unhealthy if he really cares about them he should tell them himself.
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Story #1: I don't know where to start other than it's so sus to more or less encourage your kid to basically get by on their looks. I don't care what age they are, it's ridiculous as hell.
Story #2: I went through this with my ex-fiancee. She told me (through Messenger, not face-to-face, mind you) that she cheated on me.I broke off the engagement immediately. Then she had the audacity to show up at my house asking if we could have another shot, to which I as politely as possible rejected the offer. It hurt like hell when she broke my heart. Point being: Why would anyone wanna put themselves through that emotional hell again with a cheating significant other?
It’s very very sis but all to common and that’s the problem but that don’t matter in the first story but it do happen a lot in the black community
@@b.a.r.gentertainment1309
That's really fucked up. That's basically saying "The only way you'll get by in life is by being a hooker or stripper."
Story 5 isn't an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, it's more like turnabout is fair play.
Is unfair to ask for special considerations that you yourself do not offer. Just as it was his choice not to let them stay at his house It is the OP's choice to say he can't stay at theirs.
Not the jerk
Exactly, so sick of these self righteous people who abuse that phrase to encourage people to be doormats.
An eye for an eye makes a whole world with one eyed people who wont try it again.
Well said!
Sometimes when you go through a traumatic event with someone like cheating your no longer attracted to them the same way. Its awful to beg someone to stay at that point. You’d be doing you both a disservice.
Yes and when trust is broken like that you might feel like you can never love them anymore or even hate towards them. You just can't go back to how it was before. It's idiotic to ask op to give a second chance to his wife after such a major breach of trust.
"eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind" is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. if somebody doesn't help you when you're in need, you're in no way a jerk for not helping when they turn around acting entitled to your help. talk about a dumb opinion.
The people who used that phrase don't understand the fundamental point of it. What the OP was doing was not an eye for an eye and it wasn't revenge.
Turnabout is fair play
Right? I hate people who use that phrase, along with “Two wrongs don’t make a right”, it’s basically telling people to be a doormat and to like it.
@@Jackie_XIII exactly. You reap what you sow.
Eye for an eye is in its nature an active behavior. Like you lost my phone so I'll break yours. And I agree there are mire civil ways to go about it (e. g. compensation). But that's not the situation in hand. This one is just about refusing to do a favor after his (which was less demanding) was refused - it's about reciprocity. Op made the right choice because you can't be expected to give without being given something in return.
Also, maybe Op would have been a jerk if it was some emergency but it was just the family wanting to go on vacation and saving money on accomodation (and maybe food and transport). Family should be there in times of need but a vacation is not a necessity.
Sister should have said that a better way.
She was just body shaming them. Bet she might want to look in the mirror before she speaks
You are assuming the aunt is fat. Maybe she's fit and athletic and is afraid for her nieces health and she was just blunt with it?
At what point does someone need to approach things in a gentler way. One of them is 5’7, 18, and 240lbs iirc. She is either obese or morbidly obese. That is not good.
Our heart and blood does not care about “body shaming”. The rate of heart disease and diabetes does not care for “body shaming”.
Could the aunt of been a tad less bullyish, sure. But Op still needed this. He is basically going to end up sending his daughters to meet their mother due to his negligence.
Story 5 I disagree is not fair for op to have to let the brother stay if the brother won’t let them is basically giving the brother a Free place to crash for a meal etc
what's with this entitled mother thinking that the teacher is jealous of her daughter because she thinks that her daughter is hot.
but the daughter wore short tops instead of her telling her daughter what the teacher told her.
In story number 1, why was it important to describe the student as well developed? In what way was this important to the story? I don't think it is appropriate for a principal to describe a student in this way.
Ahahaha, shoot, back in my day, I went to a public school wearing a 7 up shirt and got told to either turn my shirt inside out or change, lol, I dunno if y'all remember the shirts that had on the front "Make 7" and on the back it said "Up Yours" 😂😂 yes, I got in a little trouble with THAT shirt, lol
When ever it’s a family thing like story 5 reader always calls out the op
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, but turnabout is fair play.
The best way for a spoiled brat to grow up into a decent person is for their bratty behavior to reap more negative results then positive ones!
Story 2: I’ve had conversations with SO on what would be a deal breaker and cheating is always mentioned, once you go down that road don’t think you can come back.
Story 5: All these self righteous people using that phrase when in reality it’s just the BIL wants you to do him and his family every favor while never reciprocating them.
Story 2: I knew feel op’s wife wouldn’t of ever acted this way if she wasn’t caught and she’s kinda getting the result of her own actions
Story 2 - all she can do is accept the consequences of her actions.
She should have had that mindset BEFORE cheating. Then she would not have to deal with what happened after.
The victimized spouse has every right to end the marriage after finding out the other spouse has cheated.
Cheating should NEVER be waved off, or minimized.
It also means that if he does choose to stay either her, it’ll NEVER, EVER be the same. An irreparable scar has been made, something I think even time itself will find it difficult if not impossible to erase.
She did this to herself. Let her enjoy the fruits of her labors.
For the travel story, No, OP is not the jerk for telling the people that always make him get a hotel to do the same. The whole "Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" is a lazy cop out for avoiding justice. It assumes the person seeking justice for their put out eye is too dumb to know when to quit, which clearly the reader is. Why do you keep siding with at least one jerk in almost every video you make?
I have the feeling that he is a people pleaser. He wants to make it neutral as possible but that only makes the narrator the jerk.
Exactly. In my experience, these self righteous smug people who use that phrase use it to gaslight people and tell them “Be a doormat because I don’t like drama unless it happens to me, then I want it to be everyone’s problem and demand blood!”.
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How ironic that the cheater is only guilty about it after being caught 😂
File those divorce papers and make a post that anyone who supports her and continues to push for you to take her back can exit your life along with her. Cheaters dont change. Shes sorry only because she got caught
First Story: The mom is just looking for an excuse to rekindle an old score with school admin for scolding her for dressing in a salacious manner at her daughter’s age.
Second Story: Romantic cheaters should never be forgiven, particularly when married. The people taking the wife’s side are stupid and most likely cheaters, cucks, simps, enablers, or were never in a relationship. Her parents are indulging/spoiling enablers. OP’s parents are backstabbing scum. OP, it can and WILL happen again. Break up with her.
Story 3: I hate guys such as Kevin. Sexist pigs.
Story 4: This is why I avoid working in fundraisers, NPOs, or charities. I won’t even do community service. Poorly coordinated, and people tend to be extra abusive to volunteers.
Story 5: You reap what you sow. The brother refused to let OP and fiancé stay at his house, so he shouldn’t be allowed to stay at OP’s. Also, OP’s fiancé is horrible for siding with him. Narrator is an idiot for the “eye for an eye” argument and for calling OP the jerk.
Story 6: Lilly is a Karen in training. OP did nothing wrong, her sister is stupid.
Story 7: What!? Who is that sister to judge ANYONE!? No class…Even if the daughters are f-a-t, if it isn’t affecting her directly then it is none of her business. I bet the sister binges and purges. As a guest, don’t insult your host or family of host in their own home.
If my friends and family told me to take back my cheating ex, I would look them right in the eye and ask them "If that was your partner, would you take them back?" and let them think that over.
Story 2: trust is like glass. If you break it it's broken and no matter how hard you try to fix it, it will always have cracks
The last one, the sister was rude as fuck, but she did bring up a good point. Those girls are overweight and not in a healthy way.
Story 2:
1. If she loved him, she wouldnt have cheated in the first place.
2. Cheating wasnt the mistake, *_getting caught was the mistake._*
3. Only cheating is one thing, cheating 4 times in an affair with someone, only showing remorse after getting busted is another thing.
4. If he had cheated on her, she would have likely tossed him to tge wolves.
Verdict, he was being clear and rational, and everyone else were being hyper-emotional and irrational. I hope he gets his divorce, especially in absentia.
story 1: the moment the karen said "this is more important than that" i would've been like "i'm sure the police will find the trespassing charges i'm going to press important" (OP just told her she can't be there)
Last story, as op said the sister is a very blunt person she doesn't sugar coat anything. I thought the sister was being a jerk about it until the op mentioned the girls weight .
once a cheater, always a cheater, shes only sorry she got caught, go a head with the divorce
Story 1 - I think the teacher could have been jealous. Teachers are not above reproach.
As a fat woman, wished someone told my parents to stop overfeeding me.
And start looking for other stuff that fast food and TV.
So.
Idk why it's a tabu Thema.
Don't tell the children, but tell the parents so that maybe some things can change
Story 2: op's first instinct was correct. People don't sleep with other people if they truly love someone else. Only reason she doesn't want to get divorced is because she is gaining something by being married. We don't know why, there could be several reasons, maybe that cheating partner isn't free (women are nesters and don't want to be alone, so op will have to do until she can replace him), maybe money and house and way of living, maybe even something so small that she doesn't want to get dumped, she wants to be the one who does that dumping, many women have massive ego. When man doesn't want them, they have to get him back and if and when they do, they don't actually want him anymore. One thing is certain, what ever that reason is, it's not the love she is feeling towards op.
One saying, that i use often, fits very nicely also for this case. "Don't waste your youth by being with someone wrong"
Flip the roles on story 2 and everyone would be bashing the cheater
I don't blame you for not letting your fiance's family stay with you.
Maybe if he was a better person maybe
That isn't the point, he just need to take the OP into is house the frist time he refuse was understandable, but not the second time this is in order words "you don't want me and your sister (wife) in your house, I don't want or have the obligation to let you stay in mine"
Good job😊
Story 2 op your wife cheated if she loved you she wouldn’t have cheated in the first place you need to get rid of cheating wife don’t get back with her she will only hurt you again and don’t listen to her family and your family they have nothing to do with your marriage they need to mind their business and stay out of it. This is between you and your cheating wife do what is right for you and remember always listen to your heart your heart will always tell you right thing to do
The second one, I think he should get back with her. Everyone says he should divorce her but the outcome there is NOBODY is happy. It’s not a good outcome. He expressed he still loves her, and she expressed that she regrets it.
Yes, she broke her vows, but he should give her a second chance.
While it’s true that if she truly loved him she wouldn’t have the affair, on the other hand, why in the hell would she go so far to get him back if she didn’t truly love him? After all she’s doing? Honestly, all I’m saying is that, I think he should take her back.
Leave before i call security. And the police
for story 2 mistakes happen, but mistakes don't last 1 AND A HALF MONTHS. Thats when it no longer becomes a mistake that's a choice and a lifestyle. I can forgive one-night affairs if they were drunk, and it was a stranger and they barley remember that night and they tell you and feel bad. Thats a mistake but doing it for a month and a half is not.
With the last story I gotta say that the aunt is an issue with how she brought it up. You can't insult someone's kids then expect them to listen to you. The daughters weight is a concern not a joke. I would have reacted the same way. How would she know that the parent wasn't already talking to them about it? No parent would tolerate the kind of verbal abuse about their kids.
The parent might have already bewn concerned and then had someone stomp on their last nerve over it.
Story 1: “IM UPSET AND YOUR GOING TO GET THAT TEACHER” talk about absolute entitlement. The Karens just keep getting worse.
I didn't hear anything about kids in story 2 so it's easy for the guy to make clean break. Even if they had kids still get a divorce. If she did once chances are she might do again. Trust once broken is hard to get back.
The family not wanting them to stay at their place yet want to stay at OP'S place. Personally I may be petty but I would let them stay when theywant. Then when we go there and they refuse. Just simply sit there and go "Gee..... its sooooooo nice of me to allow all of you stay with us at absolutely no charge to you and your family yet when we come by. You want us at arms length. Just like a Karen and Ken would want. Stay away from us while we take advantage of you."
Story 2: okay, so life with depressions, loosing a lot of family very early on, having trouble keeping friendships alive, having had wrong friends and the right friends loosing both an a goof and both on a bad basis, the best one to an od, having been mentally addicted to a person, been in an abusive relationship, being bullied to minor extends, but for 4 years straight except for hollydays, all have shaped my morals towards all kinds of relationships that I can sum them up in two basic rules I go by both contious as well as just how I feel about things.
1) I will forgive you almost everything as long as you yourself know, accept and admit your wrongdoing by yourself. Depending on how hurtful the thing is I need more or less self-courage on this one.
2) It's not a bad thing to loose a friend if your characters don't match, but everyone deserves a second chance if the time you have had no contact would be sufficient for a person to either change bad traits or for both to grow to be dynamic enough to embrace or ignore your differences.
So here it's pretty easy: this is such an emensly hurtful thing, that was planed in a way that it could have gone on for ages, because of the second phone, that the only way I would forgive her under rule 1, would be if she had come over, sat you down told you and herself told you that if you wanna divorce she understands and she still loves you etc. And I am not saying I would necessarily forgive her here, because it is still such a hurtful thing to do and again the fact that this wasn't a heat of the moment kinda thing, that it was planed out, makes it really heavy.
So should you give her a second chance now? No. Absolutely not. She didn't admit anything to you, she got caught and THEN it felt bad, she felt bad for getting caught, not for cheating. Chances are she will do it again, because she just is that kind of person. Chances are what she is taking from this is to be even more secretive next time, to play you safer so that you don't hire a PI. Then she will do this for years.
Story 3: what if the guy just found it difficult to speak to the opposite gender? I know a few men and women who find it truly difficult to speak to the opposite gender, to make the assumption that he's being sexist without taking that into consideration is in itself a little bit sexist, but yeah 80% likelihood he was being a bit sexist.
Actions have consequences
Story 5 : I do see where OP is coming from. If they are such a big family that they need *3 rooms* , then they can definitely spare space for 2 adults. But we don’t know how much space you can spare for them (as you seem to live only 2 of you). But this is a jerk-ish situation, but with a valid reason.
Oh, and also
Story 2 : OP, don’t care bout those people. They don’t feel you, or how much you’re hurt. Once a cheater, Always a cheater. If she loves you so much, why would she have a dam fudging affair with a friend. She isn’t brave for admitting her affair. She admitted after she was caught and got ratted out. She dug her own grave. Dam she did it with that other guy 4 times! She lost your trust. And she saw that coming.
DAMN YOU KEVIN!!!!! (if you get that reference, kudos to you)
Story 6 was just funny
The story with the guy's house near the ocean and the wife's relatives not letting them stay twice is NTA. It's completely understandable why he's annoyed as they were turned away twice for BS reasons. In fact, if I were him, I'd use the same excuse the brother used twice. If they're that concerned about cvid, then asking to stay wouldn't have even crossed their minds... the in-laws didn't want to be inconvenienced but have no problem inconveniencing OP. So, therefore, OP is NTA. A question to his wife, if you just "Do things for family and not expect anything in return" does that magically not count for your brother or...?
DANA AS IN DANA TERRACE??????
Last story- Honestly-
At first I thought the aunt was the jerk until I heard the girls were around 240 pounds!!!
That's not just overweight, that's severely obese and they need help!!!
Sure, the aunt could have phrased it better, but like- dude the girls need help
Story 2.. no she doesnt love OP.. or she wouldnt have fucking around.. thats all there is to it.. shes crying because she got caught
Story 5:
OP is not the Jerk. If he’s not allowed in their house why should he let them into his? Do you not know what equivalent exchange is?
2nd story:
Dude cheating is unforgivable. Op should leave his wife for someone who will actually be loyal, you’re right the wife will have a second chance with someone else. Hopefully she can keep it in her pants the second time
Story 2, if she really did love the op, she wouldn't have cheated in the first place.
This isn’t a one time sleight for a one time revenge (eye for an eye). This is an ongoing issue and right now it seems this person thinks he can treat them like dirt and they’ll still treat him like family.
He believes he’s better then them. So the only way they have a chance of getting him to treat them better is to return his treatment of them. They are showing they will not stand for his use and abuse. (You will reap from me as you’ve sown to me.)
They will respond in one of three ways. Will shrug it off and nothing will change in which you break even, they will see their behavior is wrong after being in the receiving end and start treating you better, or they will cut you out of their lives, but if being treated the way they treat you is considered grounds for being cutoff then you’re better off without them. No outcome is a loss!
As for the comment about family doing stuff for family, I’d say, “EXACTLY! And they did not treat us like family when we needed a place to stay from them. So where was the whole “family helps family” rationale when we needed help? Yet suddenly we’re expected to abide by that code at our detriment for their benefit? No! They clearly don’t see us as family but as chumps who will give them whatever help they need because “family helps family” and since they do this “without expecting anything in return we’ll just roll over and take it when they shut the door in our face while we’re asking for their help! You’ve been brainwashed sweetheart!”
First one is sick
7:58 she will do it again
Wife and affair story... a mistake is once, maybe twice at most. Three strikes you are out, and four times is definitely not a mistake. If you wouldn't have caught her. it would still be going on. If she truly loved you, she wouldn't have committed adultery and broke her vows. My opinion. I would never cheat, and if my husband ever did, even once, marriage would be over! Simple! Divorce your wife. How can you ever trust her again? With no trust, there's no good marriage. Good luck!
For the final story OP’s sister was a little harsh but she’s entirely right their weight is very unhealthy and needs to be lost otherwise OP will wake up to his daughters dead from a heart attack. And before y’all start saying how can you be so mean why would you wish something so awful. I’m in the same boat as these two girls I’m extremely overweight and I know that I’m extremely at risk for arthritis and I don’t doubt that heart issues for me are further up the line. OP cannot see what’s going on with their daughters and claim that it’s healthy.
he has a large family and want to stay at your house. no they need to get a hotel/apartment if you have a big family you can afford a hotel/apartment for vacation
The sec story, if op see this, remember, don’t let other influence your decision. As you said, she admit to having sex 4 times. She said it was a mistake but it’s not. It would’ve been more believable if she did it ONCE. Even if she’s genuine remorseful, it will never change the fact she broke your trust and she can NEVER get that trust back, no matter how much you guys do couple therapy.
Imo, leave her as she is no longer worth it. She may still love you, but as I said earlier, you won’t trust her the same. You won’t see her the same. In the back of your mind, you will always wonder if she is cheating again. Even at the slightest change in her behavior that could mean nothing. That paranoia may never disappear if you stay with her…
I wish this guy would in the description or whatever you call it put the numbers for the different part of the stories just in case people want to hear one story and not the rest
Most times they do
@@STAYATINYARMYSIN it's only the other guy that puts the time stamps this guy never does
@@PrincessLadyy there’s two posters on this channel?
@@STAYATINYARMYSIN yeh
Yes I already get that things have changed over the last 30 years can women who do just about anything from construction to law enforcement truck driving computer designs you name it
Story 5: No jerk, but the other guy is (can't house 2 adults, but expects OP to house a large family?! WTF) as well as the narrator - are you a religious nut or what with your stupid "eye for an eye" line? If someone (figuratively) punches my eye out, they owe me losing one as well. Everyone deserves to be treated the way he treats the people around him. Also, no one's allowed to expect special treatment just because they're family. Family is about making sacrifices for EACH OTHER, not just one person for the other.
Story 5: do any of these of narrators ever have good takes?
W vid we don't take L's
this narrator has the most mid takes, for the the last story the OP is definitely making it sound worse than it actually was, what grown adult would say "the kids butt probably has a zipcode", "shes probably wider than she is taller", OP is literally in denial of their insanely unhealthy lifestyles and refuses to believe hes doing anything wrong. He is part of the reason obesity is such a huge problem in America, if they want to live a long prosperous healthy life OP needs to make some changes.
not here to be negative but i completely disagree with story 5 o.p was not the jerk because it's common sense like his wife said " family do stuff for each other without expecting anything in return." Right? Then if his family have no problem housing the two of them whenever they visit but her family makes them get a hotel every time they visit they can get a hotel just like o.p had too.
Story 5 is not the jerk but might be wrong
20:40 ngl, the sister isnt wrong in the slightest. She came off with a bitchy attitude but the message is true. You need to wake up and fix their behavior
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind."
Hi, blind person here, shut up. Wow! You mean we would never have known that different people have different skin colors? Well how devistating for humanity.
Yes, I'm aware that humanity would just come up with something else stupid to fight about. Point still stands.
do you have the studded keyboard or speech to text?
Bro in the and of the day she citad on you and if you didn't figr it aot she will cantenyo 8:00
This narrator has the most mid takes sometimes.
Story 2 and 5?
@@gotenblack2542Well, it's clear that he understands how hurt the OP is by the cheating and is not saying he should take her back so that's not an issue.
The issue is the story 5 take. You treat people how you want to be treated. If you don't house your visiting family, then why should you expect that level of kindness that you've never shown.
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@@_aballa_In the second story he is basically telling to the OP to forgive her and give another change, if that is not taking her back what is? This isn't something she can say sorry about, she knew what she was doing, if the OP take her back she is going to do it again but this time better, for lado of better words. Once a cheater, forever a cheater, especially if there is no consequences.
@@DarkHeartTheEmo he says her being sorry isn't the issue, the fact that the trust has been broken on that level is damaging to someone and the cheater just has to accept that there isn't anything she can do to make right. At least, that's what I got from him.
Last Story .. the kid's butt has a zipcode ? Funny and insulting at the same time the truth hurts but lets see in the end who as the last laugh the girls are still young when they turn 18 you will see how those baby fats will be gone they will be conscious and who knows they will get slim by then
You clearly didn't listen to the whole story. One of them is 18 and is 240 lbs.
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did the youtube s*x ban get removed?
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Story one. Daughter knew she wore an inappropriate top and wanted attention. It back fired. As for dress code when I went to school we could wear tank tops.
Story two.
Once a cheater always a cheater.
Story three
Spot on.
Ya'll are calling the brother in the last story being in denial or whatever for being unaware of his daughters weights, but the sister is a jerk for body shaming and bullying her nieces. If she truly was concerned for their well-being, she could've said, "Hey, I am noticing that your girls are starting to become overweight for their ages, and I want to help you out so they won't have any complications later on in life." Don't get me wrong, I am all for telling like it is, but if you just straight up start insulting, then you are just being a bully.
he definitely put a spin on it, parents lifestyles rub off on their children, i severely doubt she actually said "your daughter is wider than she is tall", OP is j in denial and needs to help his daughters.
@@sync4183 Like I said, even if that was the case, if the sister truly cared about his daughters, she wouldn’t have started by insulting them in the first place.
The second story. The original poster shouldn't get back with his wife and she doesn't deserve another chance. From my point of view she says she did it 4 times, she had 4 oppertunities to decline, she had 4 chances to say lets stop this but every time she met up with the friend she accepted his offer and only really stopped once she got caught. Then making a big show of it to everyone that she regrets it, that she deserves to have one more chance but I think she had enough chances and she should live with the consequences and let the original poster move on with his life and find someone else that hasn't shredded his trust to pieces.
Correction, she said it was ”only 4 times”
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Last story: I am going to double message because I think this is worth its own message.
Listen, weight matters. Fat shaming and body positivity only come into play when medical things prevent weight loss/mess with the body/are things that cannot be fixed. For example, height, d*ck size, etc.
Weight through overeating and under exercise is fixable.
OP is the jerk for defending and encouraging the weight situation of his girls. They are not at healthy weights. The sister has it right. When the “freshmen 20” hits that one girl she is going to be at or near 300lbs.
Heart disease, diabetes, etc does not care about how we feel about weight. Its fine to be confident in yourself and to be happy for your children. But to be delusional and say they are fine…no that is negligence and that is automatic jerk behavior
I think it’s important to mention though that long term health and weight management really can’t happen when it’s coming from a point of shamming. It’s hard to take care of something if you hate it. It really needs to come from a place of health, balance & taking care of yourself properly. Which can look different for everyone and when needed should be professionals who have the knowledge to help that particular person figure out what’s needed and what works for them.
Body positivity doesn’t have to equal fat positivity and can actually be very valuable in the process of becoming healthy, solely because if you care for something you are much much more likely to take care of it and maintain that care. Sure, shame can cause change, but your likely never going to feel like it’s “good enough” and way easier to fall back into old behaviors and give up (or go too far and end up with an eating disorder, which also severely impacts your health).
@@rowennaclark6175 So I agree, on the idea of not being a dick. However, it was OP that the individual was talking to and not the children. At that point, with where they are at, maybe crude messaging will work. It works sometimes.
As for body positivity. My stance on it is this. It only exists on what cannot be changed. If individuals have medical issues preventing weight loss okay that is fine. If someone is eating fast food everyday and becoming morbidly obese, that is an issue.
So yeah, OP is the jerk for letting it get as far as it had.
Story 2: The wife wasn't getting something from the husband so she looked outside to find fulfillment. Last story: yeah the father is totally responsible for his daughters. But the 18 y/o is responsible for herself, they need to get their weight under control or face problems later. The story of the brother that won't allow them to stay but asked if he could stay, NOPE, stay in a hotel. Actually I prefer to stay in hotel/motel anyway.
Translation from your take on story 2: Cheating is okay if it makes you feel good about doing it. Screw my partner's feelings
"The wife wasn't getting something from nus and so she looked outside to find fullfilment." oh so is okay to cheat, I bet if was your partner doing this you would sing a different story, I hope you aren't in a relationship, because is cleary that you are going to cheat on your partner.
So we are saying cheating is fine? Okay then everytime a guy cheats on his gf/wife its because she wasnt giving him another s*x. Gotcha. Totally makes sense. It’s not like she was just a b*tch for breaking her vows
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