Damn, you’re actually nuts momo. You motivated me a ton to just send 500’s to get my fang kit and to also get blood torva, which I’m 1/4 done now with vard being my first:),I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to give me some answers via opinion and punching stuff into the dps calc and just your help overall
I calculated the gp/h for 400s/500s/540s below. the 400s are 2 down warden while the 500s/540s are 3 down. no skullskipping for any of the invos also These runs are about 16.8m gp/h for 25 minute 400s with 2 down.(8.2% per run) 500s are about 21.9m for 32 minute 500s with 3 down (13.5% per run wtp only no pathfinder) 540s are about 25.2m for 35 minute runs with 3 down (17.4% per run wtp and pathfinder on)
Is invocation level or damage total more important for purples? Is this less efficient for purples because without the paths you do less total damage right? If I’m wrong plz let me know
Invocation level is more important than damage. I could add wtp on but it makes kephri/zebak/akkha slow. This means the raid is overall slower with less % per hour but having wtp on would mean more % per run. my raids wouldn't be 23-25 minutes with wtp on for example but i would do more damage in raid I think its confusing to write but wtp = more % per run No wtp = more % per hour The one thing i would change for purple % would be 3 down warden. the % multiplier is a lot high in wardens than it is for the other 4 bosses so would recommend it. This kinda changes in 500s+ pathfinder makes 300s-400s a lot longer while not adding that much %. For 500s+ adding pathfinder to 500s turns the raid from 13.5% to 17.4% while only being about 10% slower
thammaron/accursed sceptre is about 10% less dps than swamp trident. for example at 400 invo akkha tumeken's shadow is 12 dps thammaron is 6 dps while trident is 7 dps. It's similar dps for wardens also
It's really good at zebak it doesn't increase dps for wardens that much though these are some dps calcs for zebak. It increases dps by about .6 compared to no spec. i've also heard it rolls off of 0 invo but not sure. dps calcs show sceptre has around 30% accuracy at 500 invo zebak but it hits 90%+ of the time for me ----300 invocation Tbow(10.90 dps)( salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(10.82 dps Salted w/ accursed sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Tbow(10.45 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte Bracers) Shadow(10.31 dps Salted no accursed sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Tbow(10.06 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte Bracers or Masori mask) Tbow(10.01 dps)(salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(9.76 dps)(salted)(Full bis no Magus) Tbow(9.29 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(8.97 dps)(Saturated heart no sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Tbow(8.43 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) Bowfa(8.74 dps salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(8.23 dps)(imbued heart)(Full bis no Magus) Bowfa(8.10 dps salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) Bowfa(7.86 dps ranging potion 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Bowfa(7.21 dps ranging potion no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) ----500 invocation Tbow(9.95 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(9.66 dps)(Salted w/ sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Tbow(9.46 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte bracers) Tbow(9.06 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte bracers or Masori mask) Shadow(8.97 dps)(Salted no accursed sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Tbow(8.75 dps)(salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(8.46 dps)(salted)(Full bis no Magus) Tbow(8.37 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(8.32 dps)(Saturated heart w/ sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Bowfa(8.06 dps salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(7.63 dps)(Saturated heart no sceptre spec)(Magus ring) Tbow(7.20 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) Bowfa(7.19 dps salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor) Bowfa(7.16 dps ranging potion 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor) Shadow(6.92 dps)(imbued heart)(Full bis no Magus) Bowfa(6.27 dps ranging potion no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Sure these are the songs i used in the video Blanke - Alchemy Artino - Introspection Friction - I need to feel Synergy - Illuminate Fred V & Grafix - Auckland sunrise Grafix - Alone
I try to prioritize range/mage during mage waves i usually tag shaman with blowpipe/serp then magers. i also like to take out cursed baboons when they're close or before waves spawn so i can switch to next weapon looking at spawns. Cursed baboons usually stack at end which takes most of the time in my runs sometimes so like to prioritize them also. i clear melee/cursed baboons in melee waves since your usually not taking damage other than tagged shaman using mage.
What room times are you getting for each room? i usually average 2:00-2:30 Ba-Ba- 2:30-3:30-kephri 3:00-3:30 akkha 2:00-2:30 Zebak and 6:00-6:45 wardens. there's probably just 1 room thats making the run long or something like not bringing chins or swarming can make kephri around 5 minutes
you can still red x baba i've heard its a 16% dps decrease though so usually dont do it when going for fast times on runs. for 400s also with bloodfury you can usually heal enough from it without using keris so most of the time dont need to red x
I’ve heard magus is more dps at 500 if zcb doesn’t hit. Zcb dps is also being boosted with adrenaline all through p3 and hitting every spec. This person on reddit goes a little more into some comparisons I think magus would be more consistent while zcb could be really good for a fast run if all specs hit at 400 invo reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/gmGDabaK2G
have you tried doing 1 way switches? i tried gear switching before its not that much dps increase except for ranged baboons using melee. it saves a lot of time for room since not much ticks lost attacking. as long as you can get pray switch/weapon switch down you could probably decrease time a lot for room
These runs are 16.8m gp/h getting 25 minute runs and 8.2%(7m per chest)each run. Pathfinder 500s are 12m(14.4%)gp per chest and 300s are 3.8m gp(4.4%)per chest for some comparisons
----Invocations/Timestamps
Invocations : ibb.co/f8bwmqF
0:00 Path of Apmeken
2:32 Ba-Ba
6:03 Kephri
10:31 Akkha
14:56 Zebak
17:18 P1 Warden
18:14 P2 Warden
20:13 P3 Warden
23:01 P4 Warden
The link to the invos isn't working, can you update?
Damn, you’re actually nuts momo. You motivated me a ton to just send 500’s to get my fang kit and to also get blood torva, which I’m 1/4 done now with vard being my first:),I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to give me some answers via opinion and punching stuff into the dps calc and just your help overall
Bro said pls with the bgs on baba. Felt that to the max
You're a monster dude, that monkey room is insane.
Insane as always momo, love watching ur high end pvm stuff pls keep it up
I calculated the gp/h for 400s/500s/540s below. the 400s are 2 down warden while the 500s/540s are 3 down. no skullskipping for any of the invos also
These runs are about 16.8m gp/h for 25 minute 400s with 2 down.(8.2% per run)
500s are about 21.9m for 32 minute 500s with 3 down (13.5% per run wtp only no pathfinder)
540s are about 25.2m for 35 minute runs with 3 down (17.4% per run wtp and pathfinder on)
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Is invocation level or damage total more important for purples?
Is this less efficient for purples because without the paths you do less total damage right?
If I’m wrong plz let me know
Invocation level is more important than damage. I could add wtp on but it makes kephri/zebak/akkha slow. This means the raid is overall slower with less % per hour but having wtp on would mean more % per run. my raids wouldn't be 23-25 minutes with wtp on for example but i would do more damage in raid
I think its confusing to write but wtp = more % per run
No wtp = more % per hour
The one thing i would change for purple % would be 3 down warden. the % multiplier is a lot high in wardens than it is for the other 4 bosses so would recommend it.
This kinda changes in 500s+ pathfinder makes 300s-400s a lot longer while not adding that much %. For 500s+ adding pathfinder to 500s turns the raid from 13.5% to 17.4% while only being about 10% slower
@@momoflipMwvids that made perfect sense thanks for explaining it to me 🫡
How good is the Thamarrons Sceptre? I also got one myself on my Iron and the Vetion Skull so I was considering bringing it to ToA later on.
thammaron/accursed sceptre is about 10% less dps than swamp trident. for example at 400 invo akkha tumeken's shadow is 12 dps thammaron is 6 dps while trident is 7 dps. It's similar dps for wardens also
@@momoflipMwvids I meant just for the spec, I also have a Shadow
It's really good at zebak it doesn't increase dps for wardens that much though these are some dps calcs for zebak. It increases dps by about .6 compared to no spec. i've also heard it rolls off of 0 invo but not sure. dps calcs show sceptre has around 30% accuracy at 500 invo zebak but it hits 90%+ of the time for me
----300 invocation
Tbow(10.90 dps)( salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(10.82 dps Salted w/ accursed sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Tbow(10.45 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte Bracers)
Shadow(10.31 dps Salted no accursed sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Tbow(10.06 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte Bracers or Masori mask)
Tbow(10.01 dps)(salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(9.76 dps)(salted)(Full bis no Magus)
Tbow(9.29 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(8.97 dps)(Saturated heart no sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Tbow(8.43 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Bowfa(8.74 dps salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(8.23 dps)(imbued heart)(Full bis no Magus)
Bowfa(8.10 dps salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Bowfa(7.86 dps ranging potion 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Bowfa(7.21 dps ranging potion no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
----500 invocation
Tbow(9.95 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(9.66 dps)(Salted w/ sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Tbow(9.46 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte bracers)
Tbow(9.06 dps)(salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor no Zaryte bracers or Masori mask)
Shadow(8.97 dps)(Salted no accursed sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Tbow(8.75 dps)(salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(8.46 dps)(salted)(Full bis no Magus)
Tbow(8.37 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(8.32 dps)(Saturated heart w/ sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Bowfa(8.06 dps salted 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(7.63 dps)(Saturated heart no sceptre spec)(Magus ring)
Tbow(7.20 dps)(ranging potion/imbued heart no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Bowfa(7.19 dps salted no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
Bowfa(7.16 dps ranging potion 20 bgs damage)(Full bis no Ventor)
Shadow(6.92 dps)(imbued heart)(Full bis no Magus)
Bowfa(6.27 dps ranging potion no bgs)(Full bis no Ventor)
@@momoflipMwvids thank you very much bro!
Huge bro, ima need your playlist
Sure these are the songs i used in the video
Blanke - Alchemy
Artino - Introspection
Friction - I need to feel
Synergy - Illuminate
Fred V & Grafix - Auckland sunrise
Grafix - Alone
whats your priority in the monkey rooms? range/mage then shaman, then the rest?
I try to prioritize range/mage during mage waves i usually tag shaman with blowpipe/serp then magers. i also like to take out cursed baboons when they're close or before waves spawn so i can switch to next weapon looking at spawns. Cursed baboons usually stack at end which takes most of the time in my runs sometimes so like to prioritize them also. i clear melee/cursed baboons in melee waves since your usually not taking damage other than tagged shaman using mage.
Getting 29 minute clears, not sure how to speed it up more. Maybe chins and just less downtime with inventory management.
What room times are you getting for each room? i usually average 2:00-2:30 Ba-Ba- 2:30-3:30-kephri 3:00-3:30 akkha 2:00-2:30 Zebak and 6:00-6:45 wardens. there's probably just 1 room thats making the run long or something like not bringing chins or swarming can make kephri around 5 minutes
Wait can you not red x baba anymore i havent done toa for awhile.
you can still red x baba i've heard its a 16% dps decrease though so usually dont do it when going for fast times on runs. for 400s also with bloodfury you can usually heal enough from it without using keris so most of the time dont need to red x
@momoflipMwvids oh nice thank you!
is magus ancestral at p3 better dps than lightbearer (zcb)
I’ve heard magus is more dps at 500 if zcb doesn’t hit. Zcb dps is also being boosted with adrenaline all through p3 and hitting every spec.
This person on reddit goes a little more into some comparisons I think magus would be more consistent while zcb could be really good for a fast run if all specs hit at 400 invo
reddit.com/r/2007scape/s/gmGDabaK2G
you finished baba at 4:40 mean while it takes me 4:30 to clear the monkey room :(
have you tried doing 1 way switches? i tried gear switching before its not that much dps increase except for ranged baboons using melee. it saves a lot of time for room since not much ticks lost attacking. as long as you can get pray switch/weapon switch down you could probably decrease time a lot for room
lol,same here, i get like 3:30 rooms at best
Gp per hour calcs with these?
These runs are 16.8m gp/h getting 25 minute runs and 8.2%(7m per chest)each run.
Pathfinder 500s are 12m(14.4%)gp per chest and 300s are 3.8m gp(4.4%)per chest for some comparisons
I think you should add a few more plugins to make it even harder to see whats going on
What exactly is hard to see?