I realy got a softspot in my heart for decks like Dead Guy and Machine Head. This decks have been some of the major players when I started Magic back in the days. Btw I followed your recommendation and started playin and buyin the BW Control Deck. Super fun deckto play and in my opinion it's the secret tier 1 deck of the format none is talking about. I plan to play it in august in a bigger premodern event in southwest germany this year. Thx for the content.
Yeah, those black midrange decks really have something to them that makes them so irresistible. Apparently BW Control is the 5th deck putting the most top 8s in events over the past 3 years, which surprised me! Seems like the deck has established itself as a super solid archetype, and quite certainly the best budget deck in the entire format.
Maybe Cabal Interrogator could go into the Burning Wish slots? Helps get cards out of their hand to trigger Muse and gives you another creature to sac to Therapy.
one of the things that makes premodern so interesting and so unlike every other format of magic is the fact that mishra's factory is actually the best creature in the format.
Unfortunately I don't think I'll do that cause I think Rifter is simply a strictly worse version of BW Control: they do the same thing and have the same advantages and weaknesses, but Rifter has no way to interact nor race combo decks which BW can do.
@@micheleb.00 You Duress and Verdict them, or interact with their creatures if they're creature combo. Rifter simply cannot race combo decks, its clock is extremely anemic (you can win on turn 6if I'm being generous, maybe?). In that case the only way to beat them is by disrupting them, which BW is significantly better suited to do.
Great video as always. I love this deck, I just bought playsets of lavaborn muse in paper a few months ago. Personally I like dark ritual into hippie or phyrexian arena. I do think dystopia is a must play in the Sb as well.
Dystopia was in the list I first put together, but ended up getting cut, just like Pyroblast did. That's why I think that Burning Wish is not worth it: the cost of missing out on sb cards is too high for a deck like this.
In the vein of 4 mana 6 damage per turn threats, I wonder if Grinning Demon could be pseudo additional copies of Lavaborn Muse? The life loss isn't great I guess alongside scrying . . .
Great content as always man! Have you thought about bottomless pit in the wish slot? It's playing into lava man a bit, Might make muse more consistent and with skeletal scrying you can then reload easily. Also felt a bit like wish was a stupor for 5cc most of the time.
Wish was terrible, if I were to play this deck again I'd start by cutting them for something else. I would like for those cards to be something that can end the game, which Pit cannot really do. Also I am not a fan of having targets for Disenchant effects.
Because I had to make room for the Wishboard, which if you watch the video you will realize that I established multiple times was an idea that did not work out 😅
I don't think I'd want the Rack cause the chances that it does nothing are a bit too high for my taste, but I agree that Burning Wish is not where it's at and I'd like to try something else.
Maybe bottomless pit would work with rack. Like 2 rack 1 pit. Dont even have to go too deep. Id want 4 hypnotic spec and 3 blazing spec since i love that card
@@suntzu6122 I don't think that's where I would want to go, but if you love those cards then go nuts! I wouldn't play Rack without Hippie or Specter, fwiw.
The lack of playable black life gain has been frustrating me as I build my cube too. Vicious hunger is not good enough and corrupt/drain life are just too restricting
@@engelostermann7203 I don’t think anything from Premodern is directly transferable to current Magic formats cause the power creep has been way too much over the past 6 years or so. There are BR decks in those formats, but they look nothing like Machinehead decks of back in the day.
Even though the effect of "thinning" is pretty negligible, in this case I have no idea what I was thinking (or maybe I wasn't and I was just auto-piloting). There's no reason to fetch there, it's just a mistake.
Volcanic Hammer could be a good SB card for Burning Wish to have that decisive reach you need to close out games. I don't like the burning wish strategy in general, though. I think card advantage is very important, or at least some kind of recursive effect. I would put another Skeletal Scrying in the list for sure.
I don't think Volc Hammer is worth the spot since every Wish target in the board is already taking the place of a really impactful sb card. I'm already not playing Pyroblasts, which would have come in quite handy in this league! I do agree that Wish is unfortunately not where it's at. I'll continue searching to see what else I can find.
There's very few targets for Unearth, and if you are ever cycling it then that's a pretty bad deal. I would want another threat that has the capability of actually winning the game.
Maybe I had 1 too many Duress, but not by that much honestly. Real sb cards like blasts got cut to make room for Wish targets, which did not end up paying off.
@@fpawluszmtg maybe in a deck made for them was my idea. My initial feeling is lavaborn might be too clunky at 4 mana. But man do i love this format. Even being able to consider such cards is great since they are pretty fair cards all around.
@@suntzu6122 Muse is fantastic imo, 6 damage a turn is a huge amount for a single card, and 3/3 is a pretty great body size in the context of the format.
I love seeing a variety of premodern decks on your channel. Thank you for the wonderful content!
Thank you! I've been trying to spice things up. More cool stuff coming soon as well!
Great content again. Premodern is looking really good. Scrying for 7 was gas.
That was the highlight of the league for sure! Scrying continues to impress over and over again.
@@fpawluszmtg That whole match was great. I went straight to my old card box to check for fire covenant.
@@roc9290 Covenant is awesome, and I never even got paired against a deck where it's actually at its best!
I realy got a softspot in my heart for decks like Dead Guy and Machine Head. This decks have been some of the major players when I started Magic back in the days.
Btw I followed your recommendation and started playin and buyin the BW Control Deck. Super fun deckto play and in my opinion it's the secret tier 1 deck of the format none is talking about.
I plan to play it in august in a bigger premodern event in southwest germany this year.
Thx for the content.
Yeah, those black midrange decks really have something to them that makes them so irresistible. Apparently BW Control is the 5th deck putting the most top 8s in events over the past 3 years, which surprised me! Seems like the deck has established itself as a super solid archetype, and quite certainly the best budget deck in the entire format.
Maybe Cabal Interrogator could go into the Burning Wish slots? Helps get cards out of their hand to trigger Muse and gives you another creature to sac to Therapy.
That's a pretty good suggestion to try out! I don't know if it'll be too mana intensive, but definitely worth exploring
one of the things that makes premodern so interesting and so unlike every other format of magic is the fact that mishra's factory is actually the best creature in the format.
Hahaha Factory is indeed really good!
Love the content such a cool deck! Hope to see the EXPLORING RW RIFTER some day in the near future !
Unfortunately I don't think I'll do that cause I think Rifter is simply a strictly worse version of BW Control: they do the same thing and have the same advantages and weaknesses, but Rifter has no way to interact nor race combo decks which BW can do.
@@fpawluszmtg How do you race combo better then Rift with BW ?
@@micheleb.00 You Duress and Verdict them, or interact with their creatures if they're creature combo. Rifter simply cannot race combo decks, its clock is extremely anemic (you can win on turn 6if I'm being generous, maybe?). In that case the only way to beat them is by disrupting them, which BW is significantly better suited to do.
@@fpawluszmtg so for "race a combo" you mean interact with discard and removal/vindicate effect? Ok, understood. Thx
premodern is so fun
Indeed! In my opinion the best constructed format in all of Magic.
Great video as always. I love this deck, I just bought playsets of lavaborn muse in paper a few months ago. Personally I like dark ritual into hippie or phyrexian arena. I do think dystopia is a must play in the Sb as well.
Dystopia was in the list I first put together, but ended up getting cut, just like Pyroblast did. That's why I think that Burning Wish is not worth it: the cost of missing out on sb cards is too high for a deck like this.
What about cursed scroll in this deck? With 24 lands seems s good mana sink to put there and run the last miles plus crowd control.
That's a great suggestion, I like it a lot! Don't know when I'll be trying this again, but when I do some number of Scrolls will probably be there.
i really like machine head!
Midrange black deck with the potential for good mana is not something you see every day in Premodern!
In the vein of 4 mana 6 damage per turn threats, I wonder if Grinning Demon could be pseudo additional copies of Lavaborn Muse? The life loss isn't great I guess alongside scrying . . .
Great content as always man! Have you thought about bottomless pit in the wish slot? It's playing into lava man a bit, Might make muse more consistent and with skeletal scrying you can then reload easily. Also felt a bit like wish was a stupor for 5cc most of the time.
Wish was terrible, if I were to play this deck again I'd start by cutting them for something else. I would like for those cards to be something that can end the game, which Pit cannot really do. Also I am not a fan of having targets for Disenchant effects.
Scrying for 7, what a comeback! GGs
Still one of the most underplayed cards in the format. An absolute banger!
How do you not put pyroblast in your sideboard.
Because I had to make room for the Wishboard, which if you watch the video you will realize that I established multiple times was an idea that did not work out 😅
@@fpawluszmtg Hahaha, wishboard for machinehead made up around 6 cards, I could have told you from the beginning that was useless. :)
@@darknight1022 But I wanted to try it anyway? :P
At what time do you usually play? Would love to challange you with my brew :)
if you play burning wish put slice and dice in the sb! it is a sorcery but you can cycle it to do 1 damage to everything
If I'm wishing for a sweeper then Pyroclasm costing 1 less it way too important, especially against decks like Goblins and Elves.
The Rack would probably be more useful than Burning Wish
I don't think I'd want the Rack cause the chances that it does nothing are a bit too high for my taste, but I agree that Burning Wish is not where it's at and I'd like to try something else.
@@fpawluszmtg You could try funeral charms in this deck. It might be overkill or maybe not but its worth a try
@@volfi123 I don't think Charm is impactful enough to warrant a slot, tbh.
Maybe bottomless pit would work with rack. Like 2 rack 1 pit. Dont even have to go too deep.
Id want 4 hypnotic spec and 3 blazing spec since i love that card
@@suntzu6122 I don't think that's where I would want to go, but if you love those cards then go nuts! I wouldn't play Rack without Hippie or Specter, fwiw.
The lack of playable black life gain has been frustrating me as I build my cube too. Vicious hunger is not good enough and corrupt/drain life are just too restricting
It really is rough. Vicious Hunger being a Sorcery is one of the saddest stories ever... if it were an instant it'd be a shoe-in
@@fpawluszmtg yea. it is wild that it is a sorcery. just kills the card.
@@jareddoucette7193 It really is sad... Spinning Darkness is great, but I don't think it's very easily played in non-mono B decks
I wonder if a Machinehead deck would do well in Modern or pioneer?
@@engelostermann7203 I don’t think anything from Premodern is directly transferable to current Magic formats cause the power creep has been way too much over the past 6 years or so. There are BR decks in those formats, but they look nothing like Machinehead decks of back in the day.
Just curious but was Bottomless Pit considered here in place of i.e. Stupor?
Not really, Stupor is there only because of Wish. I am not excited about giving my opponent targets for their Disenchants either.
cool games!
Deck delivers fun games!
@@fpawluszmtgstreamer deliver fun games ;) Ps. Bro not playing the rack in Machinehead???
@@WatchThatFast No, I don't think it's necessary. I'd rather play creatures with power/toughness that do other things instead.
Is it better than the rest?
if you need to draw a land G1, why do you fetch?
At 10:59, u say i need to draw a land , then u pop 2 fetch lands and thin your deck, smh
Even though the effect of "thinning" is pretty negligible, in this case I have no idea what I was thinking (or maybe I wasn't and I was just auto-piloting). There's no reason to fetch there, it's just a mistake.
Volcanic Hammer could be a good SB card for Burning Wish to have that decisive reach you need to close out games. I don't like the burning wish strategy in general, though. I think card advantage is very important, or at least some kind of recursive effect. I would put another Skeletal Scrying in the list for sure.
I don't think Volc Hammer is worth the spot since every Wish target in the board is already taking the place of a really impactful sb card. I'm already not playing Pyroblasts, which would have come in quite handy in this league! I do agree that Wish is unfortunately not where it's at. I'll continue searching to see what else I can find.
Is unearth just too linear for this build? I’ve had some success with it.
There's very few targets for Unearth, and if you are ever cycling it then that's a pretty bad deal. I would want another threat that has the capability of actually winning the game.
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Fire Covenant mvp.
One of the most underplayed cards in the format.
Really surprised that you don't play any REB effect
The discard package is too heavy MD imho
Maybe I had 1 too many Duress, but not by that much honestly. Real sb cards like blasts got cut to make room for Wish targets, which did not end up paying off.
@@fpawluszmtg incinerate instead wish?
@@issmoul931 I'd rather have a repeating source of damage
@@fpawluszmtg words of war? Sulfuring vortex
@@issmoul931 I don't know what the answer is yet, though I don't think it's either of those.
No blazing spec!!
Blazing and Hypnotic Specter are pretty close to unplayable in Premodern in my opinion, unfortunately.
@@fpawluszmtg maybe in a deck made for them was my idea. My initial feeling is lavaborn might be too clunky at 4 mana. But man do i love this format. Even being able to consider such cards is great since they are pretty fair cards all around.
@@suntzu6122 Muse is fantastic imo, 6 damage a turn is a huge amount for a single card, and 3/3 is a pretty great body size in the context of the format.