Thanks for showing how the two speakers sound mixed together ! Was really interesting to hear Keep those videos with Nolly coming, please They are absolutely amazing!
Would love to see v30 vs V-Type. I've been interested in hearing more about V-types as an alternative to v30. Also, After all these Nolly episodes, it would be awesome to hear a super-cut of that same riff through all the various speakers being tested! Keep up the awesome work guys!
I bought the Eminence DV-77 when it released, put it in my Marshall JCM800 4010 combo and just perfect, absolutely love it because it's different. Everyone wants to sound the same lol
So... I emailed Eminence a few months ago. I was looking for the closest thing they had to the Randall Jaguars (Dimebag's cab - Eminence made the Jaguars for Randall). Here was their response: "I think the speaker you’re looking for is the DV-77. I think it accomplishes what the old Jaguar models set out to, but better. It has even better definition with gain, more low end that stays tight, and clearer highs. It’s not identical to the OEM models, but there’s nothing I would recommend more." We ended up buying 2 and throwing them in an EVH 2x12 cabinet. Not sure if it's my sons favorite, but he does absolutely love it.
I think what many people misinterpret about the DV-77 is it's not a standalone speaker. Mick Thomson has it blended with something else in his cabs. It's always been meant to be blended with something else.
The thing I find with V-30s (even moreso under a microphone) is that it takes work to fight against the way they really emphasize the white-noise sounding hash at the top of their frequency response. Darker sounding speakers aren't as inherently cutting / forward on their own, but you can feed them way more highs or presence control before they sound bad. Even more importantly, you can boost up the top in the mix and not be adding all sorts of unwanted noise to the tone of your high-gain guitars.
'Hash' is how I've always heard it as well. For what it's worth, the different eras of Vintage 30s do exhibit different personalities in this regard. I'm curious what @ZillaCabs and @Nollythegreat think the most appropriate eras are, in order to avoid that characteristic.
If you have compensated the highs with a bit of treble and presence on the amp, they would have been so much closed. I have DV 77 and it is a bit dark, but once you turn a bit of presence it rocks :)
Wonderful point. Actually 100% of the speaker shootout is the same amp settings. "In real life", that doesn't happen . . . ever. Therefore, though these comparisons are still helpful, there's still so much more needed to actually purchase a $180 speaker. On a side note, VHT make a chrome speaker. That speaker will do what this combo does all in one speaker. That speaker is a hidden gem. If you want fame, you buy the famous v30 and/or dv77. If you want tone, you search. The VHT was what I found to surprise the giants.
I'm running a closed-back oversized 2x12 with a well-used, early 2000s, V30 and an old Greenback (1976 code). Handles absolutely anything. From a vintage Tele into a cracking JTM to a 7string Schecter into a JVM at (almost) max gain. Even sounded great playing a 10 string Chapman Stick through it... Cutting out frequencies with a great EQ is easier than trying to add them when they simply weren't produced by the speaker 😜🤣
If it's that good they should send us one. Generally when companies say they've made a speaker better than the V30, they haven't but I'd be up for hearing one.
@@ZillaCabsI have a Weber Gray Wolf 100w speaker with specs as listed above. Don't know if it's a V30 killer, but it's powerful. Makes a Blackstar sound and feel like on the Mesa Boogie realm to my ears. It also has a lot of body (but my speaker is a custom-made designed Grey Wolf, so it could have changes compared to the ones in the market).
I like the DV-77 a bit better. Specifically because as you turn up the amp in a live setting, the upper mid/highs aren’t going to cut your head off. Under a mic, I don’t mind adding some upper frequencies to compensate to fit in a mix.
If I had to call it (I'm commenting now watching the comparison), I'd say A is the 77 and B is the V30. The V30 has a signature big head of hair on it where it's borderline fizzy but it's low enough to be edgy. Seems that they tamed that out of the 77. Sounds dark side by side but then you'd dial the amp *to* the speaker to compensate.
I have 2 DV-77’s paired with 2 Hesu Demons in my 4x12, in my opinion I find the Demon a good matching with the DV-77 as it brighter and has the higher mids the DV-77 doesn’t have
Love both speakers! The DV77 doesn’t have the same level of hissy noise on the 10 kHz+ end of the spectrum. Not necessarily better / worse, just different.
I a / b'd these myself. Dv77 and v30 in the same cab, the dv77 gets drowned out, but the v30 is also an ear piercing thing that can get painful to listen to in person if the guy is using say a 5150 iii and cranks the highs.. Im not sure how this was mic'd up but the dv77 was like the v30 without the horrid upper spike when I compared them. I wouldnt use a v30. I have h75 creambacks, which are another one I prefer over v30s.
It's usually to show how they sound together... or at least try and illustrate it in a basic way... apparently these speakers are designed to be mixed with others.
Someone made a mistake, it's not the end of the world. If it helps, we made this content for free, it didn't cost anyone other than us and I bet we spent a hell of a lot more time making these videos than any individual does watching them. It was a mistake... by the way we don't sell speakers, and don't stock Eminence, we're not selling these speakers, it's free content.
V30's are unusable with a strat and high gain. You can always add mids/treble to the eminance. The V30 is way too icepicky...virtually impossible to eq out the mid spike without killing the cut. Easier to add mid-range and treble than remove it
Jensens are great for cleans, but other than that, I wouldn't use any brand other than Celestions. There hasn't been a single Eminence speaker I actually liked.
What did you think about the DV-77? Do you agree with Nolly? Let us know below!
What amp was used in this demo?
@@thanos4480 given Nolly, it's probably his 5150.
Nolly is such a treasure. Love seeing him involved with this channel.
Thanks mate.
Thanks for showing how the two speakers sound mixed together !
Was really interesting to hear
Keep those videos with Nolly coming, please
They are absolutely amazing!
Would love to see v30 vs V-Type. I've been interested in hearing more about V-types as an alternative to v30. Also, After all these Nolly episodes, it would be awesome to hear a super-cut of that same riff through all the various speakers being tested! Keep up the awesome work guys!
I have a DV-77 paired with a V-30 in an oversized 2 x 12 closed back cab. I think they sound great together!
Keep bringing more of these videos. Love them
I have been so excited to see this series. I hope you guys cover other Eminence speakers like the Texas Heat or Swamp Thang!
I prefer B in the speaker comparison
which is the v30
I just wanna talk about how good that RIFF is. Good Lord that crushes!
I bought the Eminence DV-77 when it released, put it in my Marshall JCM800 4010 combo and just perfect, absolutely love it because it's different. Everyone wants to sound the same lol
So... I emailed Eminence a few months ago. I was looking for the closest thing they had to the Randall Jaguars (Dimebag's cab - Eminence made the Jaguars for Randall). Here was their response:
"I think the speaker you’re looking for is the DV-77. I think it accomplishes what the old Jaguar models set out to, but better. It has even better definition with gain, more low end that stays tight, and clearer highs. It’s not identical to the OEM models, but there’s nothing I would recommend more."
We ended up buying 2 and throwing them in an EVH 2x12 cabinet. Not sure if it's my sons favorite, but he does absolutely love it.
I think what many people misinterpret about the DV-77 is it's not a standalone speaker. Mick Thomson has it blended with something else in his cabs. It's always been meant to be blended with something else.
I have 2 DV-77 at the bottom and Celestial GB-25 on the top. Best blend for my style (Alternative Metal, lots of Cleans too)
I have it in a Mesa Cab with a WGS REAPER HP 50.
The thing I find with V-30s (even moreso under a microphone) is that it takes work to fight against the way they really emphasize the white-noise sounding hash at the top of their frequency response.
Darker sounding speakers aren't as inherently cutting / forward on their own, but you can feed them way more highs or presence control before they sound bad. Even more importantly, you can boost up the top in the mix and not be adding all sorts of unwanted noise to the tone of your high-gain guitars.
'Hash' is how I've always heard it as well. For what it's worth, the different eras of Vintage 30s do exhibit different personalities in this regard. I'm curious what @ZillaCabs and @Nollythegreat think the most appropriate eras are, in order to avoid that characteristic.
I know this is a speaker comparison, but I'm really enjoying the riff!
The DV-77 needed different EQ to really shine in the A, B comparisons. I believe A was the DV-77. Blends superbly with other including H Creamback.
If you have compensated the highs with a bit of treble and presence on the amp, they would have been so much closed. I have DV 77 and it is a bit dark, but once you turn a bit of presence it rocks :)
Wonderful point. Actually 100% of the speaker shootout is the same amp settings. "In real life", that doesn't happen . . . ever. Therefore, though these comparisons are still helpful, there's still so much more needed to actually purchase a $180 speaker. On a side note, VHT make a chrome speaker. That speaker will do what this combo does all in one speaker. That speaker is a hidden gem. If you want fame, you buy the famous v30 and/or dv77. If you want tone, you search. The VHT was what I found to surprise the giants.
Love the 77 paired with a CV-75, my goto for anything ERG.
We'll have to make a video on that.
@ would love to see it, looking forward to it! :D
Gives me the Hempback and Ruby vibes with that darker sound.
feel pretty certain that A is the DV77 and B is the V30
I'm running a closed-back oversized 2x12 with a well-used, early 2000s, V30 and an old Greenback (1976 code).
Handles absolutely anything. From a vintage Tele into a cracking JTM to a 7string Schecter into a JVM at (almost) max gain. Even sounded great playing a 10 string Chapman Stick through it...
Cutting out frequencies with a great EQ is easier than trying to add them when they simply weren't produced by the speaker 😜🤣
The V30 killer is the Weber Gray Wolf 75w, medium doping with the standard british dust cap.
If it's that good they should send us one. Generally when companies say they've made a speaker better than the V30, they haven't but I'd be up for hearing one.
@@ZillaCabsI have a Weber Gray Wolf 100w speaker with specs as listed above. Don't know if it's a V30 killer, but it's powerful. Makes a Blackstar sound and feel like on the Mesa Boogie realm to my ears. It also has a lot of body (but my speaker is a custom-made designed Grey Wolf, so it could have changes compared to the ones in the market).
B is V30, A is DV77.
How do these sound blended together in a 4x12?
I mean u hear them blended together in this video so there’s your answer
Try the Seventy 80 next! So overlooked
And a good reason it is 😂
I like the DV-77 a bit better. Specifically because as you turn up the amp in a live setting, the upper mid/highs aren’t going to cut your head off. Under a mic, I don’t mind adding some upper frequencies to compensate to fit in a mix.
If I had to call it (I'm commenting now watching the comparison), I'd say A is the 77 and B is the V30. The V30 has a signature big head of hair on it where it's borderline fizzy but it's low enough to be edgy. Seems that they tamed that out of the 77. Sounds dark side by side but then you'd dial the amp *to* the speaker to compensate.
I have 2 DV-77’s paired with 2 Hesu Demons in my 4x12, in my opinion I find the Demon a good matching with the DV-77 as it brighter and has the higher mids the DV-77 doesn’t have
You can't just not hear the V30, as soon as B hit, you just know what that is 😂😂😂😂
Love both speakers! The DV77 doesn’t have the same level of hissy noise on the 10 kHz+ end of the spectrum. Not necessarily better / worse, just different.
I'll be sad when this series is over
B sounds like the Eminence.
And sounds awesome!
nah, that's the V30.
I think A is the celestion?
GGD Zilla Modern incoming.
Kohle has entered the chat
V30s all the way
I was waiting for a Mick Thomson (Slipknot) appearance for waay too long :(
I a / b'd these myself. Dv77 and v30 in the same cab, the dv77 gets drowned out, but the v30 is also an ear piercing thing that can get painful to listen to in person if the guy is using say a 5150 iii and cranks the highs.. Im not sure how this was mic'd up but the dv77 was like the v30 without the horrid upper spike when I compared them. I wouldnt use a v30. I have h75 creambacks, which are another one I prefer over v30s.
B sounds great
Dv 77 sounds killer in a mix, standalone nothing beats V30 for metals. Live with this)
H75 creamback kills a v30 all day especially paired with a redback
No, it does not)
If you can't tell which is which press 1 and 8 on your keyboard during playback
I prefer the sound of the V30 honestly
I love how he swapped "throaty" for "guttural"
B is DV-77
I can never see why people include both at the same time. It’s more confusing that way.
It's usually to show how they sound together... or at least try and illustrate it in a basic way... apparently these speakers are designed to be mixed with others.
They are different in sounding. Obviously ...
Why should them sound same?
A is darker, so it is likely the DV-77
Had the DV77. I really tried to find a way to get into it. But they are gone and I haven’t missed em for a second. WAY overhyped
Why not compare the speakers with identical passage?
What do you mean? We do. The comparison at the start has the same passages.
A vintage 30
A = DV77 B = V30.
B is the V30
B is the V30.
just been on your site cant find no results, wasting time of others is not a great selling strategy, I thought A was the V30
Someone made a mistake, it's not the end of the world. If it helps, we made this content for free, it didn't cost anyone other than us and I bet we spent a hell of a lot more time making these videos than any individual does watching them. It was a mistake... by the way we don't sell speakers, and don't stock Eminence, we're not selling these speakers, it's free content.
A is the DV-77, right? I'm not liking it, especially the high end. It works all right in the mix, though, but it's still far from what I'd look for.
That the v 30 honkey ness.Dv is the 2
Weber Silver Wolf>V30/DV77
Dv-77 sounds muddy, just buy a fender mustang combo amp and you'll get the same effect lol.
v30 all win . the dv-77 sounds like it's muffled by a blanket
yeah B is better.
A sounds more spread out on the top end, which made me to believe it's the DV77,
come to think of it, maybe it's better paired with MD421, but that mic costs a whole lot of fortune than the good ol' 57.
V30's are unusable with a strat and high gain. You can always add mids/treble to the eminance. The V30 is way too icepicky...virtually impossible to eq out the mid spike without killing the cut. Easier to add mid-range and treble than remove it
Jensens are great for cleans, but other than that, I wouldn't use any brand other than Celestions. There hasn't been a single Eminence speaker I actually liked.
A is definitely the V30. The Eminence is the V30 with the bad stuff taken out... 😂
A = V30 = horrible
B is definitely the V30
@finnancahill2644 man, just skip from the first blind clip (A) to the one where it says v30 and you can tell they're the same.
0:49
2:24
2:28
A is mix of v30 and dv77
B is dv77
@@lovecraftmusic8717em
no?
My Dv77s sound like someone trying to make one speaker sound like a v30/k100 blend. Don't hate it, but find it very contextual.
A is the DV77
A is definitely the Eminence. Sounds scooped.