More interesting - in my opinion - is how well this entry / video is constructed... No cheap scares or anything, just a good journey into the SCP universe.
This is just kinda a spin of rose red. Not that I don't like it, but it really really REALLY feels like rose red. Ripping off one of the greatest authors of all time isn't exactly what I would call original, or interesting.
I think this story is a really chilling play on the concept of "Second death". It's said that you die twice, firstly when you actually die, and second when someone remembers you for the very last time. While the Burnley ghosts used to be a very regular part of the family and home, as the newer generations migrated away, died off, lost interest, or just didn't produce further offspring, the ghosts that resided within died again. The ghosts lash out because they know what's coming, and are afraid to truly die. Now the only memory of Burnley line remains in the journals and books, a shallow echo of their existence known only by those curious enough to go out of their way to read, though the readers will never have a personal or emotional stake in them. The ghosts are like a museum exhibit rather than a family, and will never ever be remembered the same way again, and thus they've truly died.
Lol, "The only thing more scary than a ghost is the absence of one." Me:"Sorry guys the correct answer we were looking for was a super ghost. A super ghost is inherently more frightening than a regular one."
This one is less scary on the face of it, since the ghosts are friendly and helpful to the family. But the nothingness they leave behind when they cease to exist is existentially terrifying on a whole different level...death aftet death. It reminds me of The Neverending Story. Literally Nothing to be afraid of...be afraid...of the Nothing...
So the scientist that tried to get rid of the Hitchhiker SCP was onto something about neutralizing her by destroying whatever anchor her, but since the Hitchhiker didn't turn out like these ghost, I'm guessing the scientist was wrong on what the anchor was and the HitchHiker's parents was killed for nothing. Might been for the best her anchor wasn't destroyed at all considering what happened to these ghost
still was a stupid move on the part of the researcher though. yes lets fuck with a harmless scp. its not like her very old parents couldnt have been left to nature taking them out instead. sometimes its best to leave an scp in its current form (cough chair incident cough). my guess is if it happened to them naturally then mary would have moved peacefully on with them. or at worst now you have to deliver a carpool of peaceful ghosts to the house if her parents joined her in haunting >_< either way you still have a harmless scp.
Makes me wonder how many of the other anomalies in the SCP archives are ghosts, and how many are the "nothingness" they leave behind. And if this "nothingness" is related to the pattern screamers.
This one was great. I feel like it's been a while since I could say that about an SCP. Don't get me wrong, I love them and have been reading them since there were only 5 SCP-001's LOL
Good ones are hard to find for sure. I don’t even like the SCP 6000 winner, even if it’s important to the lore, but I get you. Have you read The Guest yet? I feel like you’ll like it if you liked this one, but this one’s waaaay waaay more interesting.
The accent haha. Lordy loo bless your heart. Starts out almost Forrest Gump and then promptly switches to an FDR/Lincoln speech accent then who's to say. Great video as always! This is a fascinating one for sure.
The Foundation should ask these ghosts how to they avoided being stuck in their own bodies. maybe they died by another method? Day 192 of asking the O5 to use SCP-1968 to create a universe in which 682 doesn't exist.
This reminds of sith tombs in star wars lore. Sith cannot become ghosts, their spirits are consumed and all that's left is the "absence" which still haunts shit.
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0:36 Excuse me. Hell nah. The absence of a horror story is more terrifying than the presence of one. If that’s the case how about we just make more horror story’s to protect ourselves
This is literally my house. I have several generations of ghosts here. Ghosts of family. It's different when the ghost is a member of the family. It's what started me out doing paranormal investigation professionally.
@@skyemperor2357 While that could be the case, they seem to have manifested with the same habits as the family member that passed. It would be hard to replicate without intimate knowledge of the family member and a programmable thought entity, like a servitor.
Awesome I once had a dream of a field trip ever occurring for a bit about a trip to a mansion except after a bit of discovery some "anomalous" activity began supernatural to the simple children of school (lol) but the doors constantly closed and shut and spirits appeared as we ran the dream ended as quickly as it began...
This was an interesting SCP, I can draw two conclusions as to what happened to the ghost within the house. Theory one; upon the death of the current author and writer of the book he was confronted most likely by a reaper those who take souls to the other side, when confronted by this reaper he expressed concern about the other spectrals and spirits within the house and the reaper decided to take them too. Considering reapers are a form of angel they are capable of cutting or severing the link to the physical plane of mortality to take them to the other side. Theory two; there is much that goes on in their world and that is safe to say that there is more in their world than just anomalies they're probably monsters too and if they're a monsters there are hunters. My guess is a hunter saw or experienced the house, did his homework all of it, on what was going on in the house and then found every single spirits remains regardless of where they were or where they were buried and managed to salt and burn them, this severed the link the physical plane. Now whatever lingers behind most likely is a death echo.
Many years later, the man was subject to a curse from a rival House. Something to plague misfortunes upon his family. In those weeks, he felt a presence by his side, one he did not even realize was there, change - morph from something to nothing. Like a black hole on his shoulder, constantly pulling - the unignorable presence of nothingness. The shaman told him plainly - his father's spirit was no longer the thing walking by his side. It troubles me. I have seen what my forefathers have left behind. I leave behind four wonderful children and two wives. I leave behind a body of work as impressive as any scholar of the paranormal. But my children have no interest in the occult. The family's secrets will die with me. Whatever I leave behind will be a harbinger of things to come. maybe this here what happen. the father died or maybe was plague/curse and turn into nothingness engulfing all the spirit in the house. that is why at the end the daughter said "dad"
Probably to keep whatever evil they thought was in there locked until they could figure out what to do. Runes in contexts like this are almost always either a lock or a key/doorway, and if it was a key they wouldn't have walked away from it
How fast do they upload with edited scripts (not just reading out the file entry) full animation in 20 hour intervals. Even if they prerecorded a lot of vids they'd still need hundreds for this type of schedule.
@@arandomperson3516 it's still quite an impressive output considering it's basically a side of project of some infographics show animators along with hunter as the narrator
I'm trying to come up with a designation for the most boring SCP possible, The Skeptic: Jane Smith, an extremely ordinary and unremarkable middle-aged data entry clerk, who disbelieves in anything magical or supernatural so much that magic or supernatural beings dissolve, go inert, or transform into something utterly mundane wherever she goes. My only problem is finding a number boring enough for her. Help me out here: What is the most boring number ever?
Guys I have an idea. I just finished watching SCP 1603’s video and thought of something. What if we put it into SCP 914? We may be able to revert it back to a chair!
Once again, another SCP that always ends up with EXISTENTIAL THREAT to our EXISTENCE. Even the Afterlife is not spared from this abyssal absence of nothingness.
I believe there are two possibilities to this story. 1. The Burnley telling the story consumed the other ghosts, leaving absence in their wake and he remains in some kind of state, whether evil or good, it doesn't seem too clear 2. And I believe this one to be more likely. The Burnley telling the story was the last to be consumed by this "nothing" he speaks of, and so he remains only as a disembodied voice warning others that "There is nothing to be afraid of" but they are unaware that he is actually warning them that the nothing truly is something to be feared.
I got a question If Ben 10 was part of the scp universe, and with a watch that can transform him into any creature sapient enough, would he be able to transform into most scps? Also if he was fighting 682 what would happen first? Ben transforming into 682 or 682 copying the omnitrix's transformation powers?
How come some of the "earlier" discovered anomalies have higher numbers? I know out of lore it's because that's the order the stories were submitted. But how does that make sense in lore? Why is an SCP found 100 years ago start on # 5000 or whatever, while one found today is # 100.
It is left up to reader imagination, but the big one is that they assign a number to each SCP, but the number is not always in numerical order. Some SCPs have even been reclassified, like the attempts with reclassify SCP 048, which always results in nutralization or it going mia.
I am not clear about the ending: Was the father trying to summon the last living family member so as to erase the whole family bloodline, or was he jus trying to get his daughter back into the manor so he could once again become a "normal" ghost? Because the use of the word "nothing", and the corpses of the dead siblings lead me to believe he was trying to return everything to the manor, but to what end I'm unsure.
Once again asking for SCP 184 the architect SCP 2950 just a chair would also be nice SCP 2602 which used to be a library would be hilarious (though if you do that one please don't hold back on the memetic effect, it just makes it better) SCP 001 the truth
Wow, this is one of the most interesting SCP's I've seen yet. That's really impressive considering this boils down to "Error 404: Ghost not found."
there are 222 like right now and i gonna ruin it
More interesting - in my opinion - is how well this entry / video is constructed... No cheap scares or anything, just a good journey into the SCP universe.
This is just kinda a spin of rose red. Not that I don't like it, but it really really REALLY feels like rose red. Ripping off one of the greatest authors of all time isn't exactly what I would call original, or interesting.
I think this story is a really chilling play on the concept of "Second death". It's said that you die twice, firstly when you actually die, and second when someone remembers you for the very last time. While the Burnley ghosts used to be a very regular part of the family and home, as the newer generations migrated away, died off, lost interest, or just didn't produce further offspring, the ghosts that resided within died again. The ghosts lash out because they know what's coming, and are afraid to truly die. Now the only memory of Burnley line remains in the journals and books, a shallow echo of their existence known only by those curious enough to go out of their way to read, though the readers will never have a personal or emotional stake in them. The ghosts are like a museum exhibit rather than a family, and will never ever be remembered the same way again, and thus they've truly died.
Damn that makes me feel sad
That, is freaking dark and downright tragically sad. That statement makes this article both somewhat unsettling and tear jerking.
That sound a lot like Coco, which is sad
You stole that from Coco.
@@ashlirabid9614 I didn't. I don't even know who Coco is. If they came to a similar conclusion then hey, that just means we were both right.
Lol, "The only thing more scary than a ghost is the absence of one."
Me:"Sorry guys the correct answer we were looking for was a super ghost. A super ghost is inherently more frightening than a regular one."
What about a super absent ghost?
@@perhaps7046 Welp, you've got me there...
@@perhaps7046 I present to you, super absent ghost 2.0 which is, by the name itself, an inherently superior entity
Ur mom
@@TG-cr3fj Now that's truly scary.
This one is less scary on the face of it, since the ghosts are friendly and helpful to the family. But the nothingness they leave behind when they cease to exist is existentially terrifying on a whole different level...death aftet death. It reminds me of The Neverending Story. Literally Nothing to be afraid of...be afraid...of the Nothing...
Or it could just be them moving on as they no longer have an anchor to this world.
Also kinda remind me here be dragon or here were dragons
@@arianabutler that one is just sad...
@@shadowsa2b yaaa this is is bitter sweet but I think I’m it own right here were dragons is bitter sweet as well.
@@arianabutler SCP-1762, wonderful in its own right, a sad tale that warns of our ignorance and fading of our imaginations..
Keep making the longer ones please! They are always the best and don’t feel rushed like many other ones.
So the scientist that tried to get rid of the Hitchhiker SCP was onto something about neutralizing her by destroying whatever anchor her, but since the Hitchhiker didn't turn out like these ghost, I'm guessing the scientist was wrong on what the anchor was and the HitchHiker's parents was killed for nothing. Might been for the best her anchor wasn't destroyed at all considering what happened to these ghost
still was a stupid move on the part of the researcher though. yes lets fuck with a harmless scp. its not like her very old parents couldnt have been left to nature taking them out instead. sometimes its best to leave an scp in its current form (cough chair incident cough).
my guess is if it happened to them naturally then mary would have moved peacefully on with them. or at worst now you have to deliver a carpool of peaceful ghosts to the house if her parents joined her in haunting >_< either way you still have a harmless scp.
He became the anchor.
If he then committed suicide, the problem would be solved.
I feel like the anchor was the road itself or the area where she died
@@Everlucky_Clover i agree he was misguided and an amateur he had no experience with the occult and or thaumitergy leading to it becoming hostile
Did they ever try destroying her jacket?
Makes me wonder how many of the other anomalies in the SCP archives are ghosts, and how many are the "nothingness" they leave behind. And if this "nothingness" is related to the pattern screamers.
Might be on to something
@@sakurakitsunestar Honestly, if this is what connect most if not all SCPs, might be the secret SCP-001.
That would be a huge discovery.
Definitely some pattern screamer vibes. There's Nothing, to be afraid of. So, so much Nothing.
@@JanusKastin Exactly why it's scary.
I love the ending. "There is nothing, to be afraid of" because the nothingness was the thing to be feared all along
MTF Mu-13 ("Ghostbusters"): "Who you gonna call?"
Real Ghostbuster: "Hey that my line!"
this takes 'you may not rest now, there are monsters nearby' a whole new level
This one was great. I feel like it's been a while since I could say that about an SCP. Don't get me wrong, I love them and have been reading them since there were only 5 SCP-001's LOL
Good ones are hard to find for sure. I don’t even like the SCP 6000 winner, even if it’s important to the lore, but I get you. Have you read The Guest yet? I feel like you’ll like it if you liked this one, but this one’s waaaay waaay more interesting.
this is part of an anthology named "HARBINGER"
read SCP-6270 to SCP-6279
12:08 vin Diesel took over writing the scrip for a second 😂
Oh wow. This one is...so sad for me. I love everything about it but something here gives me deep existential dread.
The Foundation literally has an SCP that answers any question, and they still do research?
They need an excuse to be paid you know
1999: military is scary
2007: ghost is scary
2020: scp is scary
2022: wait scp is ghsotbusters? But richer and braver and more secretive!
The great Southern hospitality and the remembrance of family and ancestors was forgotten within that manor.
Jeez, I was really hoping they would call in the ghost busters
@@leopivano9320 I mean there is technically an MTF team titled "The ghostbusters"
This is my 365th episode of SCP Explained. Thank you for a years worth of vids.
I remind you, that you left us with clif hanger 2 days ago with scp-3448, please don't keep us too long
I am in love with the background music they use for every video.
This was one of the best videos you have made on this channel. Props to you guys!
Great video. This just shows us how terrifying the foundation actually is.
Its been out for 3 minutes :D :D
@@SCP great content btw. Im always exited for the next video!! ❤️
OP's the type of person who'd say "great video" after 10 seconds when you know the video is 3 minutes long lol. No hate ofc
@@SCP i should join the foundation
@@SCP just watch it in double speed
Did y’all suddenly get a MASSIVE budget increase??? This video looks incredible! Love it
The accent haha. Lordy loo bless your heart. Starts out almost Forrest Gump and then promptly switches to an FDR/Lincoln speech accent then who's to say. Great video as always! This is a fascinating one for sure.
I swear the newer ones are getting better and better all the time
I disagree.
@@ElInventor ratio
@@ElInventor You want to be turned into a ghost huh.
@@rogueascendant6611 New SCPs are just walls of text and stuff nobody would believe. They lost the north.
@@ElInventor You're better being lost in the south and buried in the frost.
Love the old man accent in this one
This SCP almost gives of Pattern Screamers vibes to it
What’s scary about ghosts is that they can see everything you are doing, including your search history.
oooh that is a REALLY good plot twist and a very nice story!
I loved sitting down with a cup of tea and listening to this.
YOU GUYS DID AWESOME ON THE MU-13 CHARACTERS AAAAA
The Foundation should ask these ghosts how to they avoided being stuck in their own bodies. maybe they died by another method?
Day 192 of asking the O5 to use SCP-1968 to create a universe in which 682 doesn't exist.
Ghosts are real
If you eat the right pill you'll see them
Alone the name let's me want to see it together with "a bunch of stories"
I mean this is part of the harbinger series of scps
This reminds of sith tombs in star wars lore. Sith cannot become ghosts, their spirits are consumed and all that's left is the "absence" which still haunts shit.
i APPRECIATE YOUR HARD WORK AND DEDICATION TO RELEASE HIGH QUALITY VIDEOS!!!!! You are considered a legend to me. You alone are the ultimate SCP. THE CREATOR!!! The creator has brilliant, creative ideas for his audiance. So thank you for the daily content uploads for entertaining my smooth brain.
Edit: It would be killer for you to collab with Dr. Bob sometime. Just an idea from your dear viewer.
Could it be a pattern screamer? Like once a revenant is gone it leaves an emptiness in reality that a pattern screamer can manipulate.
Above 6000 and it's got an SCP Explained video... This is gonna be good
These videos make my day better!❤️❤️❤️
One of the best horror stories I have been told
This is a nice story format SCP, i hope that her arrival didnt effect the ghosts in an unpredictable way in the long run.
Honestly the feast sounds like a awesome ghost when it was active
all this makes me think a pattern screamer is hiding in the house
I love your southern accent! You totally nailed it.
this is one of my favorite scps
0:36
Excuse me. Hell nah.
The absence of a horror story is more terrifying than the presence of one.
If that’s the case how about we just make more horror story’s to protect ourselves
The narrator absolutely nails that southern accent
Have to admit, absence and nothingness is a scary concept.
Imagine being scared of having nothing to be scared of, I mean it's possible and dangerous irl but yeah.
Reads “horror story”
Me: You have my attention (as always) ☠️👻👽👾🤖😈🤡🎃👹👺
This is literally my house. I have several generations of ghosts here. Ghosts of family. It's different when the ghost is a member of the family.
It's what started me out doing paranormal investigation professionally.
What if they are harmful entities just pretending to be your family ghosts?
@@skyemperor2357 While that could be the case, they seem to have manifested with the same habits as the family member that passed. It would be hard to replicate without intimate knowledge of the family member and a programmable thought entity, like a servitor.
Love your southern accent impression, hunter :D
I was thinking the same thing
Awesome I once had a dream of a field trip ever occurring for a bit about a trip to a mansion except after a bit of discovery some "anomalous" activity began supernatural to the simple children of school (lol) but the doors constantly closed and shut and spirits appeared as we ran the dream ended as quickly as it began...
This guy is literally feels like a O5 Council member
This was an interesting SCP, I can draw two conclusions as to what happened to the ghost within the house. Theory one; upon the death of the current author and writer of the book he was confronted most likely by a reaper those who take souls to the other side, when confronted by this reaper he expressed concern about the other spectrals and spirits within the house and the reaper decided to take them too. Considering reapers are a form of angel they are capable of cutting or severing the link to the physical plane of mortality to take them to the other side. Theory two; there is much that goes on in their world and that is safe to say that there is more in their world than just anomalies they're probably monsters too and if they're a monsters there are hunters. My guess is a hunter saw or experienced the house, did his homework all of it, on what was going on in the house and then found every single spirits remains regardless of where they were or where they were buried and managed to salt and burn them, this severed the link the physical plane. Now whatever lingers behind most likely is a death echo.
Many years later, the man was subject to a curse from a rival House. Something to plague misfortunes upon his family. In those weeks, he felt a presence by his side, one he did not even realize was there, change - morph from something to nothing. Like a black hole on his shoulder, constantly pulling - the unignorable presence of nothingness. The shaman told him plainly - his father's spirit was no longer the thing walking by his side.
It troubles me. I have seen what my forefathers have left behind. I leave behind four wonderful children and two wives. I leave behind a body of work as impressive as any scholar of the paranormal. But my children have no interest in the occult. The family's secrets will die with me.
Whatever I leave behind will be a harbinger of things to come.
maybe this here what happen. the father died or maybe was plague/curse and turn into nothingness engulfing all the spirit in the house. that is why at the end the daughter said "dad"
That southern accent is freakishly accurate. I know, since I'm from the south
Anybody know why Mu-18 put a rune on the door that was closed that had breathing behind it?
Probably to keep whatever evil they thought was in there locked until they could figure out what to do. Runes in contexts like this are almost always either a lock or a key/doorway, and if it was a key they wouldn't have walked away from it
@@janavanbellingen8531 thank you for this enlightening info!
Ooh Burnley estate and winner of nightmarefest. Very well written scp.
“There is nothing to fear in the dark.”
When an anomaly too strange to be explained by even the experts of the Foundation is brought to my attention, I get shivers.
Hey man, maybe try using scp-001 (when the day breaks) to kill scp-682
Hmmmmmmmmm.
This is high quality scp content😱❤
This is the best ghost story I've ever heard tbh
when people die they become ghosts.
When ghosts die, they become Pattern Screamers
How fast do they upload with edited scripts (not just reading out the file entry) full animation in 20 hour intervals. Even if they prerecorded a lot of vids they'd still need hundreds for this type of schedule.
They use infographic animation, so it's much easier than physically animating everything, which is my best guess.
@@arandomperson3516 it's still quite an impressive output considering it's basically a side of project of some infographics show animators along with hunter as the narrator
yeah, basically everyone who watches these vids wonders that. its practically an anomaly in its own right how fast they make these vids
Either a huge team, or prepared content, to upload once a day.
They're SCP's themselves
love the voice actor but as a person who lives in Mississippi the southern accent was hilariously bad. 😂❤️
I'm trying to come up with a designation for the most boring SCP possible, The Skeptic: Jane Smith, an extremely ordinary and unremarkable middle-aged data entry clerk, who disbelieves in anything magical or supernatural so much that magic or supernatural beings dissolve, go inert, or transform into something utterly mundane wherever she goes. My only problem is finding a number boring enough for her. Help me out here: What is the most boring number ever?
Good thing they didn't force people to stop making new scps after scp 6000. it was supposed to be the last.
Who would have thought the only thing more frightening than a ghost would be the absence of one.
Im not scared, im not scared.....
Me neither… ._.
LOVE UR VIDS BRO
Guys I have an idea.
I just finished watching SCP 1603’s video and thought of something. What if we put it into SCP 914? We may be able to revert it back to a chair!
PLEASE MAN!
PLEASE I BEG YOU, DO SCP 6820!
So interesting, that it's expunged.
Another day in the scp foundation
My mans need to do more of the southerners voice
Once again, another SCP that always ends up with EXISTENTIAL THREAT to our EXISTENCE.
Even the Afterlife is not spared from this abyssal absence of nothingness.
13 secs after the upload i love this channel man
I believe there are two possibilities to this story.
1. The Burnley telling the story consumed the other ghosts, leaving absence in their wake and he remains in some kind of state, whether evil or good, it doesn't seem too clear
2. And I believe this one to be more likely. The Burnley telling the story was the last to be consumed by this "nothing" he speaks of, and so he remains only as a disembodied voice warning others that "There is nothing to be afraid of" but they are unaware that he is actually warning them that the nothing truly is something to be feared.
I got a question
If Ben 10 was part of the scp universe, and with a watch that can transform him into any creature sapient enough, would he be able to transform into most scps?
Also if he was fighting 682 what would happen first? Ben transforming into 682 or 682 copying the omnitrix's transformation powers?
How come some of the "earlier" discovered anomalies have higher numbers?
I know out of lore it's because that's the order the stories were submitted. But how does that make sense in lore?
Why is an SCP found 100 years ago start on # 5000 or whatever, while one found today is # 100.
It is left up to reader imagination, but the big one is that they assign a number to each SCP, but the number is not always in numerical order. Some SCPs have even been reclassified, like the attempts with reclassify SCP 048, which always results in nutralization or it going mia.
Perhaps the number given to an scp is just that: a number and not supposed to be in the order they were discovered
Maybe they recycle numbers as they become explained?
6274: There is a nothing to be afraid of.
I am not clear about the ending: Was the father trying to summon the last living family member so as to erase the whole family bloodline, or was he jus trying to get his daughter back into the manor so he could once again become a "normal" ghost? Because the use of the word "nothing", and the corpses of the dead siblings lead me to believe he was trying to return everything to the manor, but to what end I'm unsure.
This is partly what i fear. Remembering someone keeps them bound to this world. This is part of why i want to be forgotten when i die
This is like honouring ancestors rather than demonising them
If I was a Burnley in the SCP universe I would’ve stick with the family tradition but also take on my own interests as well
I wasn't expecting to hear Morgan Freeman in an SCP video.
These Ghosts turned into SCP - 000.
make longer vids. full length reads. youd be good at it. and your traction would, youd take off man.
FULL LENGTH READ
If you have to reassure yourself there’s nothing to be afraid of, you should probably be afraid.
Watching this during work
that was a damn good accent!
That's so sad! The ghosts were left behind then they were nothing
Once again asking for SCP 184 the architect
SCP 2950 just a chair would also be nice
SCP 2602 which used to be a library would be hilarious (though if you do that one please don't hold back on the memetic effect, it just makes it better)
SCP 001 the truth
This reminds me of "13 Ghosts" in that the ghosts have interesting stories.
I ain't afraid of no ghost!!!
13:47
We did it the real grape fruit
day 2 of asking what happened after the foundation used the mri machine and neutralized death-
The foundation playing phasmaphobia before it was cool.
i hope there will be more to this story
2:34 - How did you get Morgan Freeman to voice this?!?!?!?!?