It CRACKED. Windscreen rubber seals on a Defender - Genuine/OEM/Pattern
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2020
- Genuine vs pattern? Does it make a difference. I fitted an Allmakes windscreen seal and look what happened...!
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My "advice" goes in circles a bit but it's more refined by the end!
Britpart are Chinese, Bearmach Indian and Genuine are French
8mm cord, bags of WD40 , and some suction cups and they pop in -takes longer to prep up the screen than fit the glass
A tip is to make sure the metal lip where the seal slips over is completely smooth and corrosion free, and I round off the square section so the seal has less of a fight to go in, so a good idea to do this before paint
I have seen glass fitters here make a right pigs ear of fitting glass
Just had the RR classic screen fitted by 'pros'
Too heavy for me to do on my own
2 men, 4.5 hours each and then they ended up using my tools!
You are lucky to be able to get a screen cheap - I have to air freight Defender screens10 at a time due to it being a glass shipment - not cheap!
Good video!
Cheers Mike!
I have generally focused on where the part is made rather than it being genuine or not. But I have only ever used genuine windscreen seals and have used the same auto glass guy for many years without issue. The first one he ever fitted (genuine seal) he did ask if it was the correct seal as he thought it was too big, but once fitted he said it was fine, after that never an issue. While I have not sat there and watched him fit it, he does sit the screen flat, fits the seals, then runs a small rope or string around it, fits it in place then removes the thin rope and then its done. Keep in mind I'm getting these jobs done on customers Defenders so I'm looking for the best end result that is hassle free.
I've seen it done twice before. They make it look easy! My genuine 2018 one is from the Czech Republic...
What a shame but I really find these type of videos really helpful. Thanks.
Thanks!
G'Day Will
Very timely matey, thanks. My windshield is nearly 20years old and same for the seal, so basically I'll need a new screen and seal, which isn't an issue since the old screen is completely pitted by sand and when the suns low and coming directly through the screen you get a nice white out effect, YAYYY!!!
Hah nice
As my windscreen was recently cracked by a flying stone the decision was already made for me. I DIY fitted a new windscreen and seal with help from my wife pressing the screen into place from the outside. The seal was a Bearmach BR1288 which felt quite soft, replacement light tinted windscreen from Allmakes was delivered in a cardboard box with well thought out foam packing pieces ensuring it survived transportation intact. I tried glass cleaner and other lubricants, however as it was a hot sunny day they dried too fast and I resorted to WD40 using the provided straw to direct the spray where needed.
What I would do next time: 1. Ensure windscreen sits fully into the frame rebate before even trying to lip over the seal. 2. Use WD40 to lubricate lip after ensuring rebate & lip are clean & smooth & lip/rebate lubricated (not screen as makes it slippy)
3. Do LH then RH sides first (or RH then LH) with seal lipped over up the sides and around top and bottom 1 - 2 inches as this centralises windscreen left & right plus top & bottom in the frame (once this is done screen will sit into place and the rest is easy. 4. I had window suckers on inside to hold screen in place assisted by my wife pressing on outside to prevent it popping out. 5. Have two blunt round ended smooth plastic trim tools (one cranked -angled end) to help tease the lip over in difficult areas without using force or tearing/damaging the seal. 6. Use a smooth nylon cord 5mm or so, I used 3mm diameter cord and it did not work like I’ve seen on videos. As a DIY’er I would not attempt this on an old sun hardened windscreen or using old seal as the screen flexes quite a lot during installation although I’m sure professionals would have a better success rate I wouldn’t try it.
Certainly doable but not as easy as I thought!
ive done quite a few and not smashed one yet plenty washing up liquid works brilliant last one i did was a britpart one all makes is bripart anyway as ive been told and i done mine on my own
What do you charge?!? 😁
Fittet an aftermarket seal a couple of years ago. Did not have any experience, so I must have been foolish luckey it went well. Old screen is still intact, with all the original imperfections. Should have changed that as well, as I'm stuck with it now. Not going to attempt chainging it risking cracking a brand new one....
I had an old series landrover with the split windshield which was screwed down. But had enough of a fight with the alpine Windows..
However my point is that I went to a rubber supplier where I could buy the seal per meter, and the price/quality was excellent. All you need to do is take the measurements from the cross section of the old seal.
Good to know!
I bought a heated screen from Masai (with after market rubber) and fitted it myself on a baking hot day. I'd rather have someone else fit it but theres no one nearby who does them. The screen had a crazy flex when doing in so I was bricking it. I spend several hours fiddling with it. I'd not choose to do it again if I could but hey ho its in and I didn't brake it. On my previous Defender I had a company do it, they said Defenders were much worse to fit than modern cars as they're flat glass.
Also heated screen totally worth it in colder climates imo.
Cheers Nick
I haven't done mine yet, another long list item. I can't honestly say I would have chosen any differently, esp with the price difference to a genuine seal. Having said that a heated screen does appeal and I had also read that the glass/laminate does degrade a lot and makes the risk of cracking a lot higher in older screens.
I think I've reinforced a lot of your points there.... I may do heated screen in future, but i'd want to get the factory Td5 loom bits and they're quite pricey now
Can't remember if mine was genuine or not but I didn't have much issues replacing myself. Used lots of washing up liquid. I went the heated windscreen myself.
Same here I was surprised how easy it was!
With all the sh*t that's gone down this summer on this vehicle, I couldn't have coped if i'd have broken it 😂
@@lrworkshop I was worried when I did mine. They are easy to break
The sealant on those gutters looks crook, i had water ingress through mine that looked similarly perished. Captain tolleys creeping crack cure fixed the leak. Might be also worth doing.
Cheers Patrick 👍
I don't blame you for getting a professional in, I'm very practical but get extremely nervous when it comes to fitting glass. I had a genuine windscreen and rubber fitted to my 110 a few years ago, the poor guy did struggle from time to time and remember watching the new screen bend ever so slightly during fitting. It's been fine ever since.
I saw it done over 10 years ago, and they made it look easy. I thought a pro would have an easier time than me...!
Shame you didn't film the fitting, that's the interesting bit, OEM it is then
Yes. I had to watch the kids 😁
Where is the rubber replacement video?
Apologies if you thought it was a "how to" video
Is that a genuine new screen? I need a new screen and rubber D:
No an aftermarket screen
Hi mate can i pick your brains ???? I just fitted some oldmanemu springs to the rear of my station wagon
The distance now from the spring seat on the axle to the top of the spring in the chassis is 340mm !!!!
I was wondering if you could measure yours if its on standard springs and its a 110 station wagon so i know what the standard height is roughly
Also has tours got the stupid self leveller on it
Mine is 365mm from the bottom lip of the spring seat to the top of the upper spring seat. White/green Puma SW springs, unladen, no self leveller. Hope that helps
@@lrworkshop thanks mate for that !!! So mine is sitting 25mm lower than yours then ....
I was speaking to gwn lewis yesterday and he said that mine at 340mm is 10 mm higher than standard ???? All i know is mine seems high but apparently its not !!!!!
I dont suppose you know the measurement for the front on yours
Mine had a new chassis in 2011 i think it maybe a puma chassis
As far as I know Old man Emu don't do a standard height spring, they are + 1 1/2" , I fitted them on my 110, 300lb medium , also fitted their dampers that have rusted really badly after 18 months. Disapointed for the money. There's a great spring length /rate guide on the net, includes a lot of after market as well as standard springs.
Hmm, looks like he tried to fit that screen from side to side, hence the crack towards the end. When I have seen this type of seal fitted to other old cars before, they always go from bottom to top, as then it’s not long enough to bend and crack
Seems to be what other people are saying. Glad it was on him though not me!
Td5 or Tdci, thoughts?
Well..... I think i'd want Td5. The Puma wasn't originally designed for the Defender and it's been shoehorned in and the adapter shaft problems are a risk, although the dash is nice and also 6 gears
@@lrworkshop ive owned a td5 and now a tdci for two years, the tdci is a revelation to drive, quieter, quicker etc, still leaks in the footwells though lol.
People always assume the seal is too long and cut the end off it. It’s made that long so that the outside edges in the core ears aren’t in tension, the centre and inner edges being in compression instead, to try to reduce the cracking and splitting you showed in the old seal. I’d expect a professional to know that, so it’s odd that you report him mentioning it. Likewise, he ought to have known how to start at the bottom and work up so as not to crack the screen. I suppose they’re only used to fitting bonded screens these days.
I think the length was ok on this one. It was the profile of the groove that caused the problems getting the seal onto the glass originally