TOP USELESS ULTIMATES FOR VALENTINA
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
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Valentina Users Copying his Ult: *same dude*
@@sopowx Fr fr fr fr fr
Lylia's ult is the most useful one imo. You can dive in and out in just ease.
Lylia can do the same but ya as a lylia main i hate valentina
didn’t know lyilia could do the same
Lylia can't burst like Val
And the pros have been using it alot too.
@@derangeddroid4911 that's what the point is 🗿
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Lylia's ult would probably be one of the best steals tho. You can even flicker in and turret dive and just get out with the ult. (It even feels badass)
In addition you wouldn't have to waste your item slots for defensive items as you can just regain the HP back.
Dont forget argus ult to waste all of enemy skills
Also Atlas, set with Damage. We all know that Mage Atlas has so High Damage.
Atlas and Faramis are best.
For me , yve . You can use every 30s while normal yve is 60+,s
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I beg to differ for lylia. I always prioritise to steal her ult so I can dive tower and their backline easily and just hit ult to reposition and save myself.
Before one of the best ulti are wanwan and minotaur. Now you have to charge too to use the ulti of mino. This are one of the disadvantages if you pick valentina early. You'll get useless ultis
the nerf those shit but dint buff the rest of the ult steal from other hero to be usable
@@Kekwkw she doesn't really need any ultimate buff, she's literally already op even without an ult
@@g4bri3l. her being op doesn't come from her other skills, it's from her passive giving her insane heals. her last nerf made her very easy to kill
@@paracame8162 She has double dash and confusion with skill 1, paired with ice queen wand will give her another slow effect. What makes her so easy to kill again?
@@Meteor-ThunderBears she can't use confusion if she can't use her dash twice in the early game. her confusion has a very short duration. she's very vulnerable against most fighters with a gap closing skill and any mage with easy stun + gap creation abilities, e.g. Eudora, Aurora, Yve, Valir
she also struggles to come back if she gets outfarmed in the early game since her passive heal only works if her level isn't lower than the enemy.
Valentina's only a major threat if your team has an amazing ult, struggles in the early game, or if it's the late game and everyone's the same level
Popol is the worst copy out there 💀
If Joy comes out, she would also be on the list because if she uses Joys Ult, it will probably only be 1 gem instead of 4
I don't think valentine can even use Joy's ult in the 1st place since it needs 4 stacks of Joy's 2nd skill dashes for it to activate
its the same condition to wanwan all over again
Queen leanna from total drama Roblox?😱
no it's based of how many stacks the joy has
ex-
Joy has 3 stacks meaning Valentina copying her ult gets 3 stacks
Imagine picking Mino/Belerick roam, Gusion jungle, Harith mid, Wanwan/Popol gold, and Alice/Sun exp against Valentina.
Then you can still use belericks ult while ganking gold or some other solo/duo heroes
Gussion ult is useful too i always steal gussion ult for fast ganking and for escape
later minotaur no longer have rage, so valentina can use ultimate without the need of rage anymore
Let's be honest, Lylia ult is actually super useful.
Some people usually copy they're ults cuz of the expensive skins they have..
Also what is up with people wanting to be first- You don't win anything-
Sun's clone isn't entirely useless.
There was a time when my team wasn't destroying the enemy base.
We won because I copied Sun's ultimate and pushed by myself.
@bird invincibility you mean, invisibility is like Aamon's second skill
@@continentalextinction tbf it's both invisibility and invincibility lol
Another one that wasnt so useful to copy is kagura's ult. Its just a knockback with a small area and also need to get close to enemy to have effect, while the damage is not so high. And so yea, i think (also from my experience) kagura could be a counter for valentina, since she has high damage and could either poke or burst valentina, while also outrange valen's skills. Hope it might help if you go against valentina and wondering what to use to counter her.
I'll def check that out
Replace Lylia or Sun with Angela. Lylia allows you to dive, while Sun allows you to decoy or push. Angela is just... a shield for a teammate. Similar to Carmilla inside Cecilion.
Also, I want a list of very useful ults. My personal favorite is Balmond and Vale.
Nah, Angela ult is somewhat useful with right mindset, you basically have a free arrival onto your teammate so you can respo fast wherever you are + they get extra shield for it.
Angela's ult is good tho what are you talking about. You can join team fight faster with that, even surprising enemies because they don't expect the shield or your presence
so much spam,npc and bot here in the comment section
For me the most useful ones are Estes for healing, Yve for Zoning, and Yin for kidnapping my enemies 😂 As long as I am at the same level or higher than them, Valentina becomes a fighter than a mage all of a sudden
Yve almost useless. Few stack is like nothing
@@demonslayer4951 I don’t aim the stacks when using Valentina, I use the 7x7 to zone objectives and to create a bigger area for teamfight. I don’t apply the same mechanics when using Yve when I use Valentina.
@@demonslayer4951 Useless? So the pro scenes are dumb sh*ts for stealing yves ultimates lol
If you 1v1 with Valentina you'll just die
I mostly use Valentina in ranked games.
She is so useful.
I often use her as a support.
My favorite role is mage btw
Me: pick valentina
Enemy team: *pick valir, gusion, julian, popol, hilda*
meanwhile valnetina users thinking:- who cares about if the ult is useless Or useful still we get to spam enemy's recalls and get their skin without spending money:))
BTW u forgot miya
honestly as a Valentina main I think any ultimate but popol is useful(perhaps basic attakcs can be good with mm build but I don't really think so)
I also think tank Valentina is more viable than mage Valentina lately
Is popol a good counter?
@@knox9739 well I'd say you can have some advantage if Valentina doesn't have argus ult because Valentina can't burst you easily because her 2. Skill will focus both you and your wolf and perhaps you can burst her with popol because she will be stunned and now that she has low life steal
Event Clint ulti is useful if you stack it before team fight
gusion's ult is pretty useful imo since it acts more of a free flicker that is longer and has lower cd, you can use it to get closer in an instant for an easy combo and use the second phase to escape
Not really cause valentina's skill had a low cd .
I have no idea why it doesn't reset the cooldown of Valentina's skills when in Hyper Blend it work with every other heroes, it even resets your original Ult cooldown
@@andreicatabay901 the range from the ult is still far enough + if I rmbr u get fusions passive
@@Jays_MotionLess hyper blend skills are separate from the original skills, as they were probably adjusted to work on all heroes that are enabled in the gamemode
@@i_am_kaede You see, the logic is that it works on all heroes, and it's not a separate skill that will work differently depending on the hero
You get what you get for that chosen skill
Then it should also work on Valentina, and she wouldn't be that OP if they ever make it work, tbh
With Gusion's Ult, it'll only resets her basic skills
Still it'd be nice to do the 1-2-1-2-1 combo twice with that
Valentina can copy WanWan she just need to hit enemy so they get marked this works without even. Transforming into wanwa
moonton nerfed wanwan ultimate. So it would be very long to cast it
@@白キロ she is still strong mm
they nerf valintina soo hard they keep nerfing mages fck
Eudora’s ult is nothing without her passive superconductor and her 2nd skill that reduces magic def
But can still be good at finishing off enemies who are low so, not entirely useless
La ulti de Clint tampoco es recomendable; cuando trate de usarla, creo que ni 1 bala cargada había, debía esperar el CD de los stacks y para entonces ya se había acabado el tiempo de la ulti de Valentina jaja
Use belerick ulti and immediatly use winter truncheon
it cancels your ult
both angela and vexana are in a special case wherein you need to pick them last, depending on either ur team or opposing roster
dumbass in enemy team picked angela first, both me and second player rush for esme
Copying Lylia Ult is op, bc like you said „you can save yourself“
And also Eudora since you cannot activate the 2nd phase.
harith is actually a good counter pick against valen. i instantlocked him when i saw enemy auto lock valen. i have faster early clear than her, and her stealing my ult was hilarious as heck
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If Gusion's cooldown reset from his ult actually get applied to Valentina's other abilities it would actually be way useful.
Copying Freya's ult does nothing as well XD
You got shield and aoe basic atk
nope it grants her a massive shield
Best ult to copy is no doubt odette 😂
Not really, you need the bouncing passive of odette for maximum potential. Faramis/Estes are the best heroes to copy the ultimate for support and Pharsa for feather air strike
Popol and kupa ult 🤣
where Hilda and Brody?? without stack Valentina copy is uuseless LEMAO
Alice ult can be used well if you have enhanced tailsmen.
Nope it still drains quick because Alice ult cost lot of mana in late game now while Valentina mana is just the same as before.
@@reoshikumo135 yeah i agree, alice have in-build mana regen and valentina does not
@@alanparadox3041 especially Alice passive
Valentina main here
It excites me to pick Valentina whenever she's open but afraid to pick her too early and get countered by useless ultis
And I really love to counter her with Cecilion and Kagura whenever the enemy managed to get her
Also one thing about Gusion's ult
I think the developers forgot to adjust how it works on Valentina because I remember using it in Hyper Blend and it resets all your other skills when you use Gusion's ult, and that is with every hero you can pick with
You should read gusion's ult properly. It's actually written on the ult that it'll reset the cd of 1st and 2nd skills. So, the reset is not exclusive for gusion only
@@MrDeerbomb Bro, this was 10 months ago
But I do remember stealing Gusion's ult before making this comment and it doesn't reset her skills
Hence, why I said they must have forgot to adjust on his ult when used by other heroes because it works properly on Hyper Blend but not on a normal game
@@MrDeerbomb Okay, I just tested it again in Hero Training mode it Gusion's ult still doesn't reset Valentina's skills when used
My comment still checks out
It only works on Hyper Blend mode, go see it for yourself
Zilong ult is soo useless on valentina, she doesn't even get much movement boost from it 😂😂
I agree with all of these! I’m a Valentina main and when you get to experience it in a game, you’ll be confused when the ult did not work as you’d thought.
I think lylia's ult still pretty useful tho
@@bagusharrysahputra2203 her’s is definitely useful when you want to secure kill and turrent dive. other than that, it doesn’t do much dmg to the enemy
Agreed with all EXCEPT Lylia.
nah bro Valentina can counter wanwan so easily
What he meant is that making Valentina get wanwan ult is a counter
Fred is Useful i used Valentina and against Fred in Rank bro couldn't even win the Clash T∆T because they Kept on focusing on me so my team get a Free hit😂
Maybe in future, just maybe, revamp valentina would be able to copy all her opponent skill. It's not that overpower ability
For julian point it counts on Julian if used the first and the second and you ult him before he used his third you will take the improved one that with knock up
Same to shafir when he have the passive you will get the improved one
Knew it from game against vail
Jungler Fredrick
Exp Julian
Mm Wanwan
Mage valir
Tank belerick
Seems like a doable team , and gives valentina user some psychological damage lol
Vslentina is only banned specifically when faramis is to be used
That why i hate Moonton nerf too much at Valentina.. I say this before at Moonton about she already have biggest weakness ..when she meet team enemy all useless for copy..trust me i ever get that issue before...just hope Skill 1-2 only until end....actually Moonton add 1 button new skill to help her easy fight
(Anyway not all player use Valentina auto win or good skill when use..i can say when Valentina get a good result because just a lucky day..😶
I like using valentina but she's either banned or so bad as a first pick in rank as enemy would just pick heroes with useless ults
Claudes is useless because she wont have stacks or attack speed. Unless you actually build DHS on your Valen lol.
Selena ult is useless.
Change Ult isnt horrible, but without Change’s second skill there is no point.
Saber Ulimate is okay for a CC, but without blades it wont do damage.
You cant use angela’s skills while inside an ally with her ult.
Give back johnson original ult😢or make it fair by giving alert as louyi using her ult..😂😂
Helcurt ult doesn't do much for her since she can't make use of his passive. But the blind is nice ig. Idk if she can even use Hanzo ult though.
Glad i have a hero that is useless for Valentina's ult like Fredrynn, Julian, Saber, Martis, Minsitharr, Alpha
Belerick Copied Ult + Winter Truncheon= Problem Solve
Valentina copy ulti popol be like : where my dog
User popol player know that ulti for dog owner be like : what you copy my mommy valentina
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When valentina copy Wanwan's Ult she can't just active it randomly you still need to break the shield 💀
For me, worst is popol and kupa. The best are either Faramis or Estes' ultimate skill followed by Pharsa
Hororo lately yss bug dmg skill2 getting spreading all socmed..
Copying Wanwan's Ult used to be wonderful
I think it's with nanas ult too bc u can dodge nanas ult
Edith's ult is the best one. Proven and tested👌🏻. Like the insane amount of lifesteal is sooo great🤌🏻.
Attack speed still sucks
thanks god moonton already make valentina are useless when copy wan wan😭😭😭🙏✨
oh nahhh lylia's is super useful. im a lylia main and i fought against a really good valentina who always camped just to steal my ult and we had a really hard time facing her. i stayed behind so she can't reach me and we managed to win the game.
Well if the enemy Gusion is using the Dimension Walker skin, I'd still copy his ult
Wheres lou yi cuz its also useless to valentina
No, Lylia's ult for me is the best steal.. You harass the enemy and you easily dive in and out. 😁
Hey guys. Do you experience about the Natalia bug wherein there is no indicator if she is near
Can valentina copy new hero joy's ult without any restrictions?
I only use Valentina to try out expensive skins of the enemy nothing more... 😁
It's Valentina telling our hero ults are useless with evil laugh
I kinda like Gusion'e ult, because she can use for escaping him and avoiding his combo
gusion's ult isn't really useless, it doesn't reset skills but it gives you a free flicker every 30s or so which combined with her already existing dash and flickers, makes it very easy to go in and delete squishies and easily escape.
I wouldn't say copying wanwans ult is truly pointless i mean atleast you get a permanent damage boost
This video is 1 year ago all of this bugs are fixed since now
Freya ult is also useless for valentia
Also all ults with stacks like hayas for example are useless. Valentina's main problem is her 1st 2nd skill can kill you if you are a squishy and she sustains alot. Her ult is just a way to outplay but not so op
Haya's ult is useful. The stacks are there just to prioritize which enemy that's attacked first and some additional but kinda insignificant damage. The stacks don't add to the total hits of the ult. You can still use it to finish off enemies or just plain invincibility
Copy morp user is the most usefull cause you can use all their abilities
If only she can copy all heroes in the game ( teammates and enemy heroes)!
Some Ult can be useful in chasing an enemy or escaping the battlefield tho but yeah its useless because you can't use it to attack an enemy
You don’t need to steal mino rage
Play the game in pub is enough
XD
Hey hororo and what about guinevere ult Her ult is so so useless for Valentina i already test it
Argus too lol
i fought a lot of valentina’s here in mythic
rank and just me alone even if she has my ultimate her damage is still not as strong as Argus passive and her heal is weak since she does not have attack speed
Actually, she would still get healing from argus ult from her skills. On top of her in-build life steal, argus ult is incredibly useful to get back to full health in an instant. Only works on heroes tho
Moonton finally destroyed valentina, she is useless now
Its now updated the others are not useless anymore
I agreee
Alice is not useless man I got savage by stealing alice ult in team fight
some ults isnt compatible for valencia
In addition, chang'e ult is also not good to be copied.
Number 1: Valentina ulting enemy Valentina
Please try tank Valentina you won't regret
There are a lot more of weak ultimates for Valentina. Eudora, Baxia, Paquito, Lesley, Layla, Aldous (handy vision but not damage or hard CC), Miya, Terizla, Hayabusa, Aamon, Saber, and many more heroes
Lylia and gusion ult are pretty good 🤨
Novarias ult is pointless ;-;
Wanwan can give you free dash and vision
Eudoras ult without the passive is useless too
Lunox ulti use on valentina also very useless
Problem about her is her hp passive
Gussion ult is not useless if you use as strategy
2:14 can someone help me understand why Kagura isn't a top prio mage in tournaments despite the fact that it's a good answer against valentina, the most contested mage?
I think the top contested ones are *faramis, valentina, yve, xavier, lylia, pharsa.* Out of these mages, the only one she'll probably have a hard time against is faramis and lylia. But people like picking lolita against Faramis lineups anyway and kagura works well with any good setup tank. On the other hand, Fanny or Dyrroth could cover for a Lylia pick.
But yes, the problem with all those meta mages is that Valentina could take advantage of their ult. And seeing that Valentina is a prio pick for all teams, I don't see why teams don't pick Kagura to counter. Most teams seem to still like picking Faramis even though she could take Faramis ult.