Part of the problem is that when cheating is relatively common, you start to question almost every death and that detracts just as much fun from the game as the actual cheaters.
The reality is because CS has many cheaters, every person become a supect even if they aren`t cheaters.. if they are on a good day = may be a cheat and this gives force to the impression that the game is full of cheaters.
If u want to know the reason why are you all seeing so much hackers in CS its the fact that CS is used almost like a tutorial how to create a cheat. Maybe I did not phrase that correctly but what im trying to say is when u want to program ur own cheat, the first game you practice doing it is on CS or Assault Cube actually because of all the resources u can find online. I recently got into gamehacking myself (programming the cheats not actually playin with cheats) and I was shocked when I discovered that CS is used as an tutorial game how to start creating your own hacks. Anticheat definetly sucks.
@@WillowPC2011 Do you actually play the game? Sure, with the knowledge that cheaters do exist many people are seeing cheaters everywhere, but not one in a year? I faced a 100% cheater 2 days ago. I just opened leetify and looked at my games I played in june and I have 8 games marked as "ban" and that's only detected ones.
That is an absolute Chad move by that team for kicking the cheater. Seriously, I know at that elo especially how much a win matters but they said “nah, we don’t want or need a win like that”.
I will still never understand how Shroud and this team work so well. They are all talking so random the whole time yet making decently good plays and winning lmao. Reminds me of teamspeak days with the boys
@@johndoee4964 how many more years are y'all gonna keep coping about him? lmao Man has played tournaments in front of live audience and still 1 tapped enemies with ease. But yeah go on
@@soumyadeepmondal6130Not agreeing that he's cheating, since I don't think he is but using "Man has played tournaments in front of live audience" is very stupid considering countless pros have been caught/banned whilst doing exactly that in the past.
Also dont forget all the smurfs with several accounts now has to level all 3 or more up from nothing as everone was reset. honestly i quit cs2. mine was jittrery and laggy on the netcode end. Lol i doewnloaded valorant for first time after they perma banned csgo before cs2 was ready. the hit reg and gunplay is super smooth (the way cs2 is when it works). cs2 is assuredly valorant without abilitys.
Not your fault. Hacks are getting better good aimbot can mimic mouse movement. Unless the hacker goes blatant. Sad to say but I use hack too for 5 years and never got ban cause I only use wallhack. It's truth that VAC is a trash anticheat. However I don't use hack on faceit.
@@shroud Shroud why be such a sellout ? in Valorant you can just use ur ULT when ur bad at the game here you dont magically heal up with magics after you get naded down to 40 hp.... and you have to watch your mechanical movement to land a shot... why be a sellout? and say "This is easier then valorant " is it because you never won major with any pro team ? dont hate the game prove us wrong... youre a sellout.
I like how people have played Mirage so much, that Shroud can literally tell what other angle the guy is shooting at before he can even tell he's there.
Heading this group together is just me wanting the dream team C9 roster. Just everyone back in cloud 9 and rotate ur favorite player for starters, everyone is a backup if needed
The only i think to overcome cheaters. Is to have a system where somebody try something in command or an cheat app. Their character will glow. This way they will know. Make a software system where anything changes there will be a backup system to notice that this players has done something.
The aim and connecting is off.. One game i’m putting up 30 kills and connecting everything and second game Im aiming at his head and firing for 2-3 seconds before they do and i die and my shots don’t connect… It’s all over the place
@@jonasba2764Maybe if you start getting to the higher ratings, you'd see it more. I've went against many 5 stacks where 1 person is blatantly walling or gets mad and goes rage mode just shitting on everyone.
"we brought it back, where were you?" Yeah, it's almost like getting rid of the player with some of the worst HLTV stats in existence helps you win a major.
meanwhile across the pond, you now have two wars going on. Yeah, I think us Americans will take that any day. There ain't nothing over here getting bombed.
please keep playing with freak and stew. Youve always been my favorite creator across all variety of gaming and stew has always been my favorite specifically for CS. the classic NA CS vibes outperform everything.
Jus started playing CS for the first time a week ago, got a lot to learn still but peep my first video on it and lmk what I need to work on(I know I gotta work on my movement lmao) and what you liked from the jaun, good looks I appreciate it
not saying the first guy isnt cheating, but in the second game they just kept saying someone was cheating. hate when pro players/streamers constantly do this shit. makes everyone else more paranoid about cheaters
that guy is a nonamer flunky who couldnt get good at valorant and malds about it all day on twitter and everywhere else, no idea why he felt like he should take a shot at a dude making probably 1000x his salary ROFL
@@Aefaxget of shrouds schlong bro. thats freakazoid saying that he had the same achievements in cs as shroud did. not to mention they were both trash as at pro level scene
i'm getting better at cs2 but i would like the game to be either no sub tick and 64 tick or 128 tick no sub tick half my shots litterally just dissapears
we played 3 games in a row yesterday with cheaters, one guy wasn't blatant but pretty sus, second guy was obviously walling with aimbot set to the headbone, and then adjusted it to the chest when we called him out (after 20 headshots) and then 3rd game we had a dude on our team walling.
The reason cs is, "easier" than valorant is because cs is skill based and valorant is luck based. Not saying it doesnt take skill to be good at both, but valorant has random spray patterns so even if your number 1 your gun doesnt necessarily hit the target when you shoot it. In cs even while moving you can compensate and learn the pattern so a player who is good at aiming and takes the time to learn will be able to hit the target reguardlss of circumstance. In valorant its literally about who gets the drop on who, reaction time, and map knowledge. Where as in cs its about all that but you can also learn to aim so you can compensate for random variables with skill.
I play Faceit only now, I played 3 premiere games with BLATANT cheaters. How the hell does anti cheat think 44 kills and 99% HS rate is normal. Valve needs to beg for faceits anti cheat system.
What does Valorant have that Cs2 doesnt? An actual anticheat that works. On top of a pretty great game. Played Cs before and does it suck the joy out of the game to have one of these cheaters on any game.
there's not a cheater in every game lmao, you're just buns and think you're actually nice to the point where you can't contemplate how you're dying. However cs does desperately need a kernel level anticheat so people can be at ease for the most part
So i got valorant AFTER cs2 came out totally broken and valve basically vac banned csgo(cant play comp anymore). Since they totally botched a simple reskin that took them10 years. i have latency, jittery, poor gameplay 70% of matches seems server based. So they basically forced me to get valorant, the abilitys that teleport are the only ones that should have never existed the rest is just smokes, walls and drones (basically like squad but faster) but every time i die or get a kill in valorant it feels deserved unlike csgo and assuredly unlike cs2. If riot made a game with valorants code but without abiltys more grounded typpe game they would demolish csgo.
the new bullshit of the hit reg and the animations not being synched makes this game unplayable in my opinion, I dont know how more people dont hate this shit.
I hope you don't pay your video description writer very much. "shroud talks about counter strike 2 and the problems he faced gameplay -wise as he plays some cs2 rank games"
Yeah no offense but high val ranks in the early seasons dont really count for anything anymore. The games meta was just entirely different and fundementally unbalanced Almost anyone could solo to valorant/radiant with enough freetime If any knowledgable player went back in time and abused everything that was possible, they wouldve outshined Tenz's uprising tenfold , and that fact alone is incredibly telling as to how little rank meant back then Its not necessarily a bad thing, and it doesnt mean you werent skilled for achieving that rank back then, but the game was just so fresh and untested back then that its hard to look at any of those ranks as anything other than a participation trophy now
cheater strike 2, I played aproximately 20 hours cs go because there were shit ton amount of cheaters. They were not even trying to hide it. I was hoping that maybe cs2 would have a better anti cheat but nope. seems like I will keep ignoring this game too.
@@MrBuurh ya its genuinely a terrible competitive experience especially for solo queue. The fact there's a million ult combos that can be utilized without being skillful in any manner to take a site seems like a crutch for bad players rather than an actual aspect you need to master in order to be good. KJ
Shroud does have a point about CS2 being easy. I played CSGO and could not drop more than 3 kills but now in CS2 I am able to drop like 5-10 kills. Valorant is the same story as CSGO. They made CS2 just way easier and I somewhat like that.
@@aDezenT feels easier to me ngl, with some guns defo not but the ak just feels so much easier to spray with for absolutely no reason at all same for normal m4 i only find those 2 guns easier in comparison to csgo
_"lenght doesn't matter, it's the thickness that matters"_
*length
"lenght"
@@jamiea9047 thleng
girth*
Yooo wth
Part of the problem is that when cheating is relatively common, you start to question almost every death and that detracts just as much fun from the game as the actual cheaters.
that's what I'm going through rn, not to mention the horrible skill disparity matchmaking makes it worse
The reality is because CS has many cheaters, every person become a supect even if they aren`t cheaters.. if they are on a good day = may be a cheat and this gives force to the impression that the game is full of cheaters.
If u want to know the reason why are you all seeing so much hackers in CS its the fact that CS is used almost like a tutorial how to create a cheat.
Maybe I did not phrase that correctly but what im trying to say is when u want to program ur own cheat, the first game you practice doing it is on CS or Assault Cube actually because of all the resources u can find online.
I recently got into gamehacking myself (programming the cheats not actually playin with cheats) and I was shocked when I discovered that CS is used as an tutorial game how to start creating your own hacks.
Anticheat definetly sucks.
Reason I stopped playing csgo
OMG SHROUD COMMENTED on my video!!!
Shroud one tapping everyone casually was actually satisfying
😂same feeling, but I was just wondering how the enemy team felt about it. they would so reported him if they didn’t see his ID
But it's sacrificing satisfying spray bro
Redditttt
Those one taps at 4:28 i replayed three times since it was going on so casually.
Haven't seen him do that in a while lol
"We brought it back, where were you?" That hit right in the feels
OMG SHROUD COMMENTED on my video!!!
honestly
I love hearing freakazoid and shroud in the same lobby, always so funny
OMG SHROUD COMMENTED on my video!!!
I sincerely hope, the anti cheat will get better. This really is making the game unplayable
You still have faceit
I haven`t face a cheater in a year... it`s better but far from ideal.
@@WillowPC2011 yeah still haven't seen a cheater (or i did and just didn't notice cuz im not a baby)
i read this all the time when i am finishing with +40 frags, people just cannot be better than you, they are simply cheaters
@@WillowPC2011 Do you actually play the game?
Sure, with the knowledge that cheaters do exist many people are seeing cheaters everywhere, but not one in a year? I faced a 100% cheater 2 days ago. I just opened leetify and looked at my games I played in june and I have 8 games marked as "ban" and that's only detected ones.
That is an absolute Chad move by that team for kicking the cheater. Seriously, I know at that elo especially how much a win matters but they said “nah, we don’t want or need a win like that”.
"lenght doesn't matter, it's the thickness that matters" --Shroud 2023
So they say
so the fat co*k jokes are back? :D
OMG SHROUD COMMENTED on my video!!!
just released and still incapable of dealing with cheaters. Valve is repeating one of the biggest mistakes they made.
OMG SHROUD COMMENTED on my video!!!
Love seeing these guys still playing together, brings up loads of old C9 nostalgia. SoCal NA ftw
It doesn't matter if they were cheating or not. If people don't trust the game's ability to catch a cheater then that's it
Miss the Rank S days. Hopefully, we get to the band back for some more comical content
OMG SHROUD COMMENTED on my video!!!
I will still never understand how Shroud and this team work so well. They are all talking so random the whole time yet making decently good plays and winning lmao. Reminds me of teamspeak days with the boys
It's because he hacks. He has never been legit and has even admitted to cheating in CS 1.6 days.
@@johndoee4964what?...
@@johndoee4964 how many more years are y'all gonna keep coping about him? lmao
Man has played tournaments in front of live audience and still 1 tapped enemies with ease. But yeah go on
Because you don't need to focus against the people he plays, if he played FPL or smth he'd actually have to try to win games.
@@soumyadeepmondal6130Not agreeing that he's cheating, since I don't think he is but using "Man has played tournaments in front of live audience" is very stupid considering countless pros have been caught/banned whilst doing exactly that in the past.
The issue for me now is I just dont know when someone IS cheating and when someone IS NOT cheating because I feel like the anticheat is nonexistent.
Also dont forget all the smurfs with several accounts now has to level all 3 or more up from nothing as everone was reset. honestly i quit cs2. mine was jittrery and laggy on the netcode end. Lol i doewnloaded valorant for first time after they perma banned csgo before cs2 was ready. the hit reg and gunplay is super smooth (the way cs2 is when it works). cs2 is assuredly valorant without abilitys.
literally played a game on ancient on premier against 2 blatant cheaters headshotting us through walls every round, vac is so fucking trash
Not your fault. Hacks are getting better good aimbot can mimic mouse movement. Unless the hacker goes blatant. Sad to say but I use hack too for 5 years and never got ban cause I only use wallhack. It's truth that VAC is a trash anticheat. However I don't use hack on faceit.
@@godofnothing520 the crazy thing is it's significantly easier to spot someone walling than aimbotting (legit aimbot).
@@triplespace007 Shroud is using aimbot for instance (has even been caught in leagues) XD. Fckn fanboys.
Shroud calling half his fans nerds and losers 😂
nahh eu is cool
All jokes man, all jokes.
@@shroud I knew it was a joke I'm just laughing at the fact it was said ❤
@@shroud Shroud why be such a sellout ? in Valorant you can just use ur ULT when ur bad at the game here you dont magically heal up with magics after you get naded down to 40 hp.... and you have to watch your mechanical movement to land a shot... why be a sellout? and say "This is easier then valorant " is it because you never won major with any pro team ? dont hate the game prove us wrong... youre a sellout.
@@shroud damage control lmao. Tell them how you really feel about the people who watch your streams then, if you wanna make it fun :D
4:25 Jeez shroud your tappy taps are so clean in cs2
I like how people have played Mirage so much, that Shroud can literally tell what other angle the guy is shooting at before he can even tell he's there.
4:28 Classic GOAT Shroud 🐐🥶😍
“This game is way easier than valorant” is what every trash can cs player says because they need to rely on water guns and teleportation
4:26 he's so casually one tapping the other team. insane!
basic counter strike
@@ASDWEWE You do it then Kappa
@@NikoxD93 doing it every day for the last 16 years
4:28 Shroud just casually playing his point-and-click adventure 😄
With his aimbot he's clearly been using for 10 years lol
Heading this group together is just me wanting the dream team C9 roster. Just everyone back in cloud 9 and rotate ur favorite player for starters, everyone is a backup if needed
The only i think to overcome cheaters. Is to have a system where somebody try something in command or an cheat app. Their character will glow. This way they will know. Make a software system where anything changes there will be a backup system to notice that this players has done something.
Most cheats nowadays are overlays, third party apps. Not actually modifying the game
Man at 3:14 that 3k was amazing I’ve played for so many years still don’t know how to do it my aim too bad
Complexity made first CS2 grand final and Liquid is getting twistzz back along side cadien. Been so long since ive seen either team having potential.
Why is everyone acting like having cheaters on CS is crazy?
CS:GO was probably the game with the most cheaters in the entire world.
The aim and connecting is off.. One game i’m putting up 30 kills and connecting everything and second game Im aiming at his head and firing for 2-3 seconds before they do and i die and my shots don’t connect… It’s all over the place
yea ...
Ragdoll at 4:00 kinda satisfying
which date was this stream from?
the world is a better place when old c9 plays together again in cs
I ran into 2 very obvious hackers in my first 5 games of CS2... so frustrating honestly.
I doubt it
@@jonasba2764 okay. 🫡
i feel you man. 3rd game in prime comp and this mfer started cheating during the 2nd round (spinbot).
@@jonasba2764Maybe if you start getting to the higher ratings, you'd see it more. I've went against many 5 stacks where 1 person is blatantly walling or gets mad and goes rage mode just shitting on everyone.
oh lord that Classic Fade is so f****** nice man, I want it so bad…Who cares about teeth, imma save money for that skin instead 😅
"we brought it back, where were you?" Yeah, it's almost like getting rid of the player with some of the worst HLTV stats in existence helps you win a major.
Ska and tarik carried stewie and now he's mad he cant play at the top anymore
"EU Nerds" actually do be spoiling your lobbies too bc they have a brain instead of the bigmac most NA have
Those one taps from m4 were so clean
imagine being called suckers by people living in one of the worst countries in the world to live in.
meanwhile across the pond, you now have two wars going on. Yeah, I think us Americans will take that any day. There ain't nothing over here getting bombed.
I can stay watching the flank the whole game in cs2 and chill in a corner, no need to make my role as a duelist or initiator at all
Thats called being a rat... 🐀
please keep playing with freak and stew. Youve always been my favorite creator across all variety of gaming and stew has always been my favorite specifically for CS. the classic NA CS vibes outperform everything.
3:24 Please don't give us hope like that and never do it, its not nice. :( shrood.
hope for what? More below average performances?
you know you can just press F4 to rebuy previous instead of using that buy menu every time again
why there's a huge gap between 2 teams rating? ( 12k vs 22k)
Why do I have a feeling those clips were already uploaded like 2 weeks ago at least
Steam lvl 0, rank 3, started playing 2023... valveeeeeee dooo somethiiinggg...
Jus started playing CS for the first time a week ago, got a lot to learn still but peep my first video on it and lmk what I need to work on(I know I gotta work on my movement lmao) and what you liked from the jaun, good looks I appreciate it
1:54 wtf is that model on the ct
1:53 this moment when he dodged ak shot bcs his ally shot him in the back of the head so head bounced forwards and dodged the bullet from Shroud
they removed our workshop maps or the ability to play gamemodes to stop cheaters and we still have them. which is annoying.
what crosshair is he using
I need his viewmodel settings!!
his crosshair changes every vid
i have 5k+ hrs and just not playing anymore till something is done about he cheating and mm
"We brought it back where were you!?" from Stew is so funny lol
The length doesnt matter its the thickness that matters ' so they say ' had me dying
take a shot everytime they say the other time is cheating
So the solution is to bring back LAN. LAN with some tests would all but insure that there are no cheaters.
not saying the first guy isnt cheating, but in the second game they just kept saying someone was cheating. hate when pro players/streamers constantly do this shit. makes everyone else more paranoid about cheaters
7:40 he got flashed irl also lol
"You lost your talent when you left this game." that guy had you rattled. Still love the content
that guy is a nonamer flunky who couldnt get good at valorant and malds about it all day on twitter and everywhere else, no idea why he felt like he should take a shot at a dude making probably 1000x his salary ROFL
@@Aefaxget of shrouds schlong bro. thats freakazoid saying that he had the same achievements in cs as shroud did. not to mention they were both trash as at pro level scene
csgo community: all we ask for is cs2 with 128tick mm servers and a better anti-cheat. c2 devs: nope.
So anyone else having issues with the gangster lean peak and the shit hit boxes in the game?
stewie 100% misses mike.
i'm getting better at cs2 but i would like the game to be either no sub tick and 64 tick or 128 tick no sub tick half my shots litterally just dissapears
Download a config fixed it for me right away better movements config
+1 to that i quit cs2 altogether until they fix it..
I been on cs2 quite a few times and yes been dealing with the same. People trying too shoot through 3 walls lol
we played 3 games in a row yesterday with cheaters, one guy wasn't blatant but pretty sus, second guy was obviously walling with aimbot set to the headbone, and then adjusted it to the chest when we called him out (after 20 headshots) and then 3rd game we had a dude on our team walling.
The reason cs is, "easier" than valorant is because cs is skill based and valorant is luck based. Not saying it doesnt take skill to be good at both, but valorant has random spray patterns so even if your number 1 your gun doesnt necessarily hit the target when you shoot it. In cs even while moving you can compensate and learn the pattern so a player who is good at aiming and takes the time to learn will be able to hit the target reguardlss of circumstance. In valorant its literally about who gets the drop on who, reaction time, and map knowledge. Where as in cs its about all that but you can also learn to aim so you can compensate for random variables with skill.
I would recommend the Shroud channel with subtitles to those who are learning English.
They ruined spraying entirely, and the ladder system is broken
why bro waffling about bacon in the final rounds
I havent met any cheaters in mm but premier has at least one cheater every game
Wait, but he's sharing his map to all of his viewers?
At this point i think valve enjoy cheaters.
Cheaters are bigger spenders, after all
I play Faceit only now, I played 3 premiere games with BLATANT cheaters. How the hell does anti cheat think 44 kills and 99% HS rate is normal.
Valve needs to beg for faceits anti cheat system.
Cs2 gameplay is crazy 🔥
There is waaay too many cheaters in cs, but it's in all multiplayer games, it's so sad. People have so low skills that they have to cheat >_
EU > NA and its always been that way ;D
What does Valorant have that Cs2 doesnt? An actual anticheat that works. On top of a pretty great game.
Played Cs before and does it suck the joy out of the game to have one of these cheaters on any game.
there's not a cheater in every game lmao, you're just buns and think you're actually nice to the point where you can't contemplate how you're dying. However cs does desperately need a kernel level anticheat so people can be at ease for the most part
So i got valorant AFTER cs2 came out totally broken and valve basically vac banned csgo(cant play comp anymore). Since they totally botched a simple reskin that took them10 years. i have latency, jittery, poor gameplay 70% of matches seems server based. So they basically forced me to get valorant, the abilitys that teleport are the only ones that should have never existed the rest is just smokes, walls and drones (basically like squad but faster) but every time i die or get a kill in valorant it feels deserved unlike csgo and assuredly unlike cs2. If riot made a game with valorants code but without abiltys more grounded typpe game they would demolish csgo.
Yes valorants anti cheat is one of the best i have seen in gaming 👍
@@whitebwoi I don't think you read my comment properly
the new bullshit of the hit reg and the animations not being synched makes this game unplayable in my opinion, I dont know how more people dont hate this shit.
Watch that kill at 4:27 crispy clean Kappa °,...,°
8:21 - Has to be the most sussiest part I've ever heard from Shroud
When Shroud is back on Counter Strike the world watches
Bro i cant play deathmatch without most people some reason hitting 85 percent headshot percent
I hope you don't pay your video description writer very much. "shroud talks about counter strike 2 and the problems he faced gameplay -wise as he plays some cs2 rank games"
calling out EU is crazy u guys literally named "gas" a liquid
Yeah no offense but high val ranks in the early seasons dont really count for anything anymore.
The games meta was just entirely different and fundementally unbalanced
Almost anyone could solo to valorant/radiant with enough freetime
If any knowledgable player went back in time and abused everything that was possible, they wouldve outshined Tenz's uprising tenfold , and that fact alone is incredibly telling as to how little rank meant back then
Its not necessarily a bad thing, and it doesnt mean you werent skilled for achieving that rank back then, but the game was just so fresh and untested back then that its hard to look at any of those ranks as anything other than a participation trophy now
Shroud coping with that Valorant comment.
and you coping with this one 🤡
Damn right tho@@Aefax
It's actually amazing that a game has cheaters/hackers day one of release
Bruh its recorded in limited test
3:30 NA exposed "Reddit" on the street, not EU. Unlike NA, the EU can take responsibility, who is the loser? Anyways, love your content.
Goofing around in CS with the boys is always so fun...they be gamin'. :)
cheater strike 2, I played aproximately 20 hours cs go because there were shit ton amount of cheaters. They were not even trying to hide it. I was hoping that maybe cs2 would have a better anti cheat but nope. seems like I will keep ignoring this game too.
"That's what she said".... I will see myself out now.
Can't say I've run into any cheater...yet
"We brought it back, where were you?" God damn bro
Shroud please how do u have such good hit reg 😭 save me
i agree with stew on your skill mattering less in valorant, everyone and their moms can one tap in that game its hilarious
Obviously aiming matters less in Valorant, there's literally abilities that stop you from playing the game & having a fighting chance.
@@MrBuurh ya its genuinely a terrible competitive experience especially for solo queue. The fact there's a million ult combos that can be utilized without being skillful in any manner to take a site seems like a crutch for bad players rather than an actual aspect you need to master in order to be good. KJ
val haters cope cause they cant handle util more complex than CS
im not hating i peaked top 900 on valorant when i used to play, from someone that played both games competitively its justa simple fact lol @@Aefax
I'M AMAZED YOU DIDN'T REALIZE CS:GO 2 IS DOGSHIT FROM THE BEGINNING SHROUD lol kinda surprised me
3:35 the realest shit I ever him say
Haha I don't think anyone actually understands how bad it is. Out of 10 games we probably play 2-3 legit games. MAYBE.
It's soooooo bad right now.
Shroud does have a point about CS2 being easy. I played CSGO and could not drop more than 3 kills but now in CS2 I am able to drop like 5-10 kills. Valorant is the same story as CSGO. They made CS2 just way easier and I somewhat like that.
what made the game easier?
visuals for a lot of people@@Gyukis
@@Gyukis idk to me it feels like gunplay feels easier, like spraying with an ak feels good and getting kills with a deagle feels easier.
@@bmc9154 Spraying feels easier!? Not a fkn chance...Spraying is impossible compared to GO...
@@aDezenT feels easier to me ngl, with some guns defo not but the ak just feels so much easier to spray with for absolutely no reason at all same for normal m4 i only find those 2 guns easier in comparison to csgo
im pretty sure i had like 3 cheaters just yesterday