I don't see anything wrong with this discussion, unlike most comments here. Mwaf is an Atheist, so it's not a shocker. And yes, there are many fake pastors outchea. Michelle is doing the Lords work, and if it's genuine, the Holy Spirit will guide her into the right church.
@@J_a_s_o_n There's a book called the English dictionary have you ever heard about it? It's also available on google if you don't have one in your home
The Narrow and Wide Gates 13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Ungrateful people told Jesus that He was using the power of beelzebul to heal the lunatic. Mwaf, you might know many things in this world but lack knowledge on the most important things. A fool says in his heart that there is no God. This doesn't mean that you should believe everyone or anything but rather, test the spirits to find out which one is true.
Mwaf huwaga mtu funny sana. First of, hakuna mahali Ntalami alisema ALIAMBIWA awache hizo stuff ameacha. She probably made up her mind and decided to change. Same way Mwaf anasemaga yeye habelieve in God, ni same way anafaa kurespect views za wengine. But he is perfect, he's always right, he is Mwaf! So funny!
One thing I don't like about this guy is the way he disregards other people's beliefs. Everyone knows you're an atheist, and people are okay with that. What's wrong with you accommodating other people's beliefs?
Hey youngman. Don't just shoot your mouth off. God isn't boring. Watch your mouth, iko nini. I like your content, but on this one I gotta call you out. Usicheze na Mungu. Cheza na akina owuor and the others, but siyo Mungu.
I find your podcast has unique opportunity to reach diverse audiences and engage in meaningful discussions. But I think you need to approach sensitive topics, especially relating to religion with respect and consideration for the beliefs and values of others. If Michelle Ntalami feels she is finding peace in the Lord, please respect that, just as we respect your 'unbelief'. The other area that I feel demands particular attention is to refrain from discussions that some of us feel border on blasphemy.
This is a sad interview to watch. I accept that there are fake pastors but there are also real men of God who guide us to the RIGHT way of God. Every fake has a real and Mwaaf you have to acknowledge this. When God calls us, he wants us to leave certain things that are detestable before him.. I am happy for Michelle.
I find the discussion disrespectful. Hear me out. You're charismatic and really experienced journalists. But I just feel like you do no good for society. You're after the bag while not caring how you make certain people feel. Grow some girth and man up. What the girl is is what most people are willing to do and end up dead. I don't understand your logic.
@tommorara8031 You don't really have to be offended if your Pastor is among the virtuous ones. What they're saying is the actual truth of what's happening in these churches. Christianity should be about truth, otherwise we may end up protecting abusers in shepherd clothing.
Indeed there are fake pastors with false doctrines, however there are true with right doctrines pastors and churches, abt songs lyrics plays a very big role, you cant be listening to a blasfemous lyrics n contents then with the same ears n eyes you wanna hear from God, abt that guy is indeed a scammer, finally show some respect to God the creator of your soul. This interview has been balanced at all
Please do not mislead people, life is spiritual.Mathew 18:6 warns against whatever you are doing. Mitchel is okay with getting rid of those things. Ephesian 4:17-24 is very clear. Hakuna mambo na religion hapa
Music can be evil coz it carries spirits, so choose your kind of music wisely, kuna music mtu huimba inamwingia anachange, all types of music carry u away.
Interesting,Owuor's initial interpretars was some lady in Kericho, unfortunately they were involved in a road accident that left the lady with spinal cord injury.As we all know,the spine is literally a person mobilization....to cut tye long story short the lady languished on Kco District hospital (floor) .... eventually she passed on....sad
In this day and age how would you differentiate a real man of God from a false prophet? What makes them 'real' apart from their coherent interpretation of the holy books? Anyone with enough mental capacity can achieve this, and still, everyone has their own way of intepreting these books. Belief and religion are very subjective topics in my opinion, there is no clear way to be followed by everybody. The teachings in the religious books are indeed helpful and make sense. But it's a different issue when the question of God comes in and the line between belief and knowledge is blurred. No one knows anything for sure, and anyone claiming extraordinary things like having seen God, talked to him directly or being able to tell the future is bordering on being labeled 'false'. I think the burden of proof is on the 'real' men of God, and not Mwaf who is objectively trying to bring to light the falsehoods being peddled around to gullible believers.
That's how you get to know People who understand what they are in and those who are trying to fit in things they barely know what They stands For. Hapa Kwa Religion Mwaf's behaviour hupotray WOKE Community, Religion haaitaji Justification
I agree with you guys ,there are a lot of knock offs ,which means there is also legit God's power, apart from hizi sarakasi mingi tumeona, there are true people of God who can do healings, it's just that God is not your servant that He has to prove Himself to anyone
get the right information then do the argueements....discussing something u dont know au speculations about them makes u look like ignorant au stupid...
Good job Ntalami. I love the list of things to let go. Huyu iko nini anasumbuliwa na 2 Corinthians 4:4. He is so blinded. May He see the light of life.
Mwaf stay in your lane bro... Huwezi ongelea faith na wewe ni aethist 😂 Halafu umesema God ni boring... Your an aethist, what's more boring than that😂 Nyinyi ndio mnaboo mbaya
I always tell religious gullibles one thing; The world has over 5,000 gods worshipped by different communities. How did you confirm and settle for just 1 god without you trying out the thousands out there? This is because everyone will claim that their own god is one who's genuine, powerful, truthful, and all those imaginary traits. Summary: You are religious because you/your brain has been conditioned to such.
No problem. I accept to be gullible by settling on Jesus Christ as Lord of my life. I just have one question for you... When you die where will you go? And are you sure?
@BuyDipSellTop I do not know because I'll be dead. My will is to go through fire (burn) and keep the energy going. My question to you: 1. Have you ever believed in other gods, or were you just conditioned to believing in life after death from an early age? 2. If god can heal you, why did you wait for vaccines during the covid19 pandemic? 3. If you claim to know who the real god is, can you please direct me to him/her without fairy tales? 4. If miracles work, can you perform them in hospitals (repeatedly)or do they need special locations (church), where you can pay anyone to 'claim' a healing in jesus name?
The logic behind your kind of thinking, for lack of a better word is shallow! Give us your criteria for testing and backing religious claims and show evidence that it has worked for you and how it can work for others. But do not classify every religion as brainwashing because you are removing the element of free will. Everyone has the choice to choose what they believe. You included
Sometimes u can 🦜 talk without fact's Until God humbles you If you don't know anything just keep mum To avoid unnecessary curses 2025 is coming Who knows who will see it Only God Just watch your mouth 👄 this small organ 🫁🫀
I don't see anything wrong with this discussion, unlike most comments here. Mwaf is an Atheist, so it's not a shocker. And yes, there are many fake pastors outchea. Michelle is doing the Lords work, and if it's genuine, the Holy Spirit will guide her into the right church.
Mwaf got the point..... Uyo msee aende hosi aponye mtu Mmojà tu
The narrow path that leads to life. Congratulations Mitchell.
The problem is she's linked to the wrong "pastors" so I also question her conversion.
Im so sorry that people have miss represented Christ huku nje. Believing in God is not religion.
Do you even know the meaning of the word 'religion' ?
@@Wanjohi_1994 since you claim to know why not share ?
@@J_a_s_o_n There's a book called the English dictionary have you ever heard about it? It's also available on google if you don't have one in your home
Sasa pia roboo atafutiee weekend update yake sasa, we need more of him
The Narrow and Wide Gates
13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
Ungrateful people told Jesus that He was using the power of beelzebul to heal the lunatic. Mwaf, you might know many things in this world but lack knowledge on the most important things. A fool says in his heart that there is no God. This doesn't mean that you should believe everyone or anything but rather, test the spirits to find out which one is true.
Mwaf huwaga mtu funny sana. First of, hakuna mahali Ntalami alisema ALIAMBIWA awache hizo stuff ameacha. She probably made up her mind and decided to change.
Same way Mwaf anasemaga yeye habelieve in God, ni same way anafaa kurespect views za wengine.
But he is perfect, he's always right, he is Mwaf!
So funny!
There is no power of religion but power in Christ Jesus If you know Him you will just change
Ma usher wamejaa comments 😂😂watch and move tf on
Shida ni nini wakijaa?
😂😂😂I tell you!
christianeesee.... something so strong and so corrosive.
Mwaf; you don't need to be told you're evil. Just look to yourself and your fellow humans then you'll understand what it means to be evil.
One thing I don't like about this guy is the way he disregards other people's beliefs. Everyone knows you're an atheist, and people are okay with that. What's wrong with you accommodating other people's beliefs?
Because belief informs actions. People have killed because they believed some invisible person in the sky told them to.
@@Vhlathanoshbtw. Very sad!! How do u kill cause of such silly reason?
@@Vhlathanosh
Please go for grammar lessons for clear expression or use Kiswahili 😢
Hey youngman. Don't just shoot your mouth off. God isn't boring. Watch your mouth, iko nini. I like your content, but on this one I gotta call you out. Usicheze na Mungu. Cheza na akina owuor and the others, but siyo Mungu.
Enda kajitombe buda call out ni nini😊😊
THE MESSAGE OF THE CROSS IS FOOLISH TO THOSE WHO ARE PERISHING. REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! REPENT!
😅😅😅😅 reading from a book u didn't write, but imported to you by mere human beings
Big up robbo from way back in jahmu, a cool prefect and editor founder of our school magazine i forget the name
I find your podcast has unique opportunity to reach diverse audiences and engage in meaningful discussions. But I think you need to approach sensitive topics, especially relating to religion with respect and consideration for the beliefs and values of others. If Michelle Ntalami feels she is finding peace in the Lord, please respect that, just as we respect your 'unbelief'. The other area that I feel demands particular attention is to refrain from discussions that some of us feel border on blasphemy.
Buda hii ni iko nini,
Ishia kajitombe utungonje uko😀😀
This is a sad interview to watch. I accept that there are fake pastors but there are also real men of God who guide us to the RIGHT way of God. Every fake has a real and Mwaaf you have to acknowledge this. When God calls us, he wants us to leave certain things that are detestable before him.. I am happy for Michelle.
He is just trying to warn her about fake people. The real ones are very few. This is kenya, Good people ni few sana.
It's all about opinions.... don't get emotional 😂
@@zaktales True. But having such a big platform and failing to recognise that in the midst of fake there is real, is very dangerous.
Religion is the biggest scam in the history f mankind, period!!
@@fxGambaatleast hawajakuwekea super glue ukamea hapa, unaeza hepa podcast pia.
those are only their independent views.
Mwaf has very little knowledge towards marriage and religion he's very selfish when it comes to this 😅
Usijam, the guy is just speaking His mind.
@patpatow but he has a large audience I guess 🤔
Mwaf always speaks his mind and opinion...maoni yake tuu..
Yesterday i was shocked to see a group of Vietnamese community from Italy heading to Nakuru to attend this scammer Owuor conference on 31st.
@@joseky254 Mark Twain put it well "It is easier to fool people a second time than to tell them them they have been fooled.
I find the discussion disrespectful. Hear me out. You're charismatic and really experienced journalists. But I just feel like you do no good for society. You're after the bag while not caring how you make certain people feel. Grow some girth and man up. What the girl is is what most people are willing to do and end up dead. I don't understand your logic.
Pray for them
@tommorara8031
You don't really have to be offended if your Pastor is among the virtuous ones. What they're saying is the actual truth of what's happening in these churches.
Christianity should be about truth, otherwise we may end up protecting abusers in shepherd clothing.
Ukileta feelings hapa utaumia... Just watch and move on 😂
CONGRATULATIONS NTALAMI. THIS ' WOMAN' WHO HAS PLAITED HIS HAIR MUST BE BORN AGAIN.
Only very open minded People will get the point of this discussion
Indeed there are fake pastors with false doctrines, however there are true with right doctrines pastors and churches, abt songs lyrics plays a very big role, you cant be listening to a blasfemous lyrics n contents then with the same ears n eyes you wanna hear from God, abt that guy is indeed a scammer, finally show some respect to God the creator of your soul. This interview has been balanced at all
Please do not mislead people, life is spiritual.Mathew 18:6 warns against whatever you are doing. Mitchel is okay with getting rid of those things. Ephesian 4:17-24 is very clear. Hakuna mambo na religion hapa
Mwaf umesema God ni muboring😀😀,,
But watu si wamecatch kwa hizi comments,,kajitombe imejaa saa hii😀
Mwaf ameleta Rowbow Rowbow mtu wa nguvu sana! Big up!
This is such a poor take. Smh.
Scroll
Watu wa repentance watakujia😂😂😂😂
Music can be evil coz it carries spirits, so choose your kind of music wisely, kuna music mtu huimba inamwingia anachange, all types of music carry u away.
Interesting,Owuor's initial interpretars was some lady in Kericho, unfortunately they were involved in a road accident that left the lady with spinal cord injury.As we all know,the spine is literally a person mobilization....to cut tye long story short the lady languished on Kco District hospital (floor) .... eventually she passed on....sad
Even yesterday, hiyo stretch ya Sachangwan some of his congregants walipata accident
Hakuna kitu hunibamba kama mwas akiongea kuhusu God comments huwa na emotions sana
Brilliant episode. Kenyans dislike the truth
In this day and age how would you differentiate a real man of God from a false prophet? What makes them 'real' apart from their coherent interpretation of the holy books?
Anyone with enough mental capacity can achieve this, and still, everyone has their own way of intepreting these books.
Belief and religion are very subjective topics in my opinion, there is no clear way to be followed by everybody.
The teachings in the religious books are indeed helpful and make sense. But it's a different issue when the question of God comes in and the line between belief and knowledge is blurred.
No one knows anything for sure, and anyone claiming extraordinary things like having seen God, talked to him directly or being able to tell the future is bordering on being labeled 'false'.
I think the burden of proof is on the 'real' men of God, and not Mwaf who is objectively trying to bring to light the falsehoods being peddled around to gullible believers.
You've nail it
Mwaf always talking shit about religion, my boss is atheist but he's always respecting other beliefs. I've never heard him mocking God or Christianity
Yet religious people condemn us, that we will go to hell if we don't believe, but didn't not want us to talk about them
That's how you get to know People who understand what they are in and those who are trying to fit in things they barely know what They stands For. Hapa Kwa Religion Mwaf's behaviour hupotray WOKE Community, Religion haaitaji Justification
We peleka hasira za dini na uko mbali nani , everybody has a right to articulate their views on anything.
@basilbarasa1842 You Got my attention but unasound Punny unafaa whips.
Listen to understanding!
Mwaf is slowly turning to be andrew kibe
You nailed it
I agree with you guys ,there are a lot of knock offs ,which means there is also legit God's power, apart from hizi sarakasi mingi tumeona, there are true people of God who can do healings, it's just that God is not your servant that He has to prove Himself to anyone
Name one
@Wanjohi_1994 just one? I thought u're going to ask for several, Apostle Arome Osayi
@@andersonpyaban8042 Who and what did he heal?
@@Wanjohi_1994 cripples, deaf people..
Funny, even the life ya world exposes you to scams.
Vanessa Mdee ameolewa na Rotimi, Tero ndio pastor's wife. Although pia Vanessa amekua akiongea about being saved
Psalm 14:1
The fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds; there is none who does good.
Mwaf,hapo kwa music ni issue ya spiritual.Music generally ni salacious so it corrupts the spirit.
get the right information then do the argueements....discussing something u dont know au speculations about them makes u look like ignorant au stupid...
Mzee shika hii free ticket na uende Kajitombe express
which part do you disagree with, Fake pastors or divorce rates?
Good job Ntalami. I love the list of things to let go. Huyu iko nini anasumbuliwa na 2 Corinthians 4:4. He is so blinded. May He see the light of life.
During our life on earth, we have opportunity to encounter Christ as SAVIOUR. After this life, we can only encounter Christ as a JUDGE.
It was the same ultimatum he was given in Nigeria....
Mwaf stay in your lane bro... Huwezi ongelea faith na wewe ni aethist 😂
Halafu umesema God ni boring... Your an aethist, what's more boring than that😂 Nyinyi ndio mnaboo mbaya
Mwaf is just a Confirmed ,Detached S.O.B tbh
Salty much 💀
explain
I always tell religious gullibles one thing;
The world has over 5,000 gods worshipped by different communities.
How did you confirm and settle for just 1 god without you trying out the thousands out there?
This is because everyone will claim that their own god is one who's genuine, powerful, truthful, and all those imaginary traits.
Summary: You are religious because you/your brain has been conditioned to such.
No problem. I accept to be gullible by settling on Jesus Christ as Lord of my life. I just have one question for you... When you die where will you go? And are you sure?
@BuyDipSellTop I do not know because I'll be dead.
My will is to go through fire (burn) and keep the energy going.
My question to you:
1. Have you ever believed in other gods, or were you just conditioned to believing in life after death from an early age?
2. If god can heal you, why did you wait for vaccines during the covid19 pandemic?
3. If you claim to know who the real god is, can you please direct me to him/her without fairy tales?
4. If miracles work, can you perform them in hospitals (repeatedly)or do they need special locations (church), where you can pay anyone to 'claim' a healing in jesus name?
@BuyDipSellTop You can't answer my question, why would I answer you?
Have you ever tried the other gods before settling for one?
@@Xamxon254 there is only one true God.
There is only one #TRUTH
The logic behind your kind of thinking, for lack of a better word is shallow!
Give us your criteria for testing and backing religious claims and show evidence that it has worked for you and how it can work for others. But do not classify every religion as brainwashing because you are removing the element of free will.
Everyone has the choice to choose what they believe. You included
mwaf kuna kitabu inaitwa why science does not disapprove God
Sometimes u can 🦜 talk without fact's
Until God humbles you
If you don't know anything just keep mum
To avoid unnecessary curses
2025 is coming
Who knows who will see it
Only God
Just watch your mouth 👄 this small organ 🫁🫀
Nikama hii interview imetumwa WhatsApp group ya Owuor😂😂
Discuss topics bur for giving life to christ, there is no formular. The formular is the bible so limit discussion on things you are not good at.
She wants to settle down......run ...people run
😂😂😂 Mwaf ni chizi freshi
Kibe alianza tu hivi...
😂ebu muite interview
ati only fans kali
😂😂
Unajua ntalami ukua mlambaji kinembe ..
She changed and hence she gave a list of what she can't do. She gave her life to God.
People have changed without the involvement of religion.
So mwaf is in Horoscopes
Yes..in short. Witchcraft
Amesema he used to believe in such but later left it nyinyi kwani mmedoz hamskii Nini 😒
When I remember kibet bull was fighting prophet owuor and now he is missing...😂😂😂wacha niachie apo
So is Owuor abducting people?
Kwani Owuor ni nani? He is just a man who will die and will be buried like all of us.
Owuor sio mungu bana!
😂😂😂😂
Iko nene