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    We Read The Dilbert Guy's Attempt to Make Trump into a Religion | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
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  • @alexsims6504
    @alexsims6504 Рік тому +471

    Scott Adams is one of the people who can single handedly disprove the existence of a meritocracy in America

    • @OtterSC2
      @OtterSC2 Рік тому +10

      He wasn't a hack, just a narcissist who couldn't talk for a year from a bizarre neuro problem and hasn't been sane since. "Creativity = theft + lack of talent" will stick with me despite his nonsense. His practical advice on doing creative projects instead of working while in the office is worth getting the pdf of joy of work for.

    • @alexcarter8807
      @alexcarter8807 Рік тому +27

      I remember him pissing and moaning that at AT&T, he could not rise higher in the company because he was not tall enough and didn't have enough hair. Seriously.

    • @DichotomousRex
      @DichotomousRex Рік тому +18

      @@OtterSC2 So you're impressed that Scott Adams stole the phrase "Art Is Theft"?

    • @user-kz8zr4si3i
      @user-kz8zr4si3i Рік тому +11

      The guy has merit; he can articulate ideas very well. His ideas are essentially hallucinated observations about the world through the lense of the self, but he can use words to describe it quite well

    • @warkijiji4474
      @warkijiji4474 Рік тому +12

      Who’s Scott Adams I’m watching them talk about the Dilbert guy

  • @Arkholt2
    @Arkholt2 Рік тому +232

    I love how Scott is so convinced that he's the smartest man alive that if he ever has to admit that he doesn't know something he also says no one else knows it either. If he doesn't know a thing, it's just unknowable. Such amazing narcissism.

    • @Bluecho4
      @Bluecho4 Рік тому +21

      That's pure Dunning-Kruger. No wonder he likes Trump so much.

    • @notinspectorgadget
      @notinspectorgadget Рік тому +23

      "Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge, exists without my consent." - Scott Adams.

    • @theautisticguitarist7560
      @theautisticguitarist7560 9 місяців тому +6

      *millions of small towns around the world phase out of existence to preserve his ego*

    • @krelekari
      @krelekari 3 місяці тому +2

      a common republican mindset. Similar to the 'I am a master of all knowledge' mindsets who can never be wrong

    • @Shut.Eye.Cinema
      @Shut.Eye.Cinema 2 місяці тому +1

      Solipsism

  • @ladymushroom9485
    @ladymushroom9485 Рік тому +233

    Scott Adams demonstrated his understanding of persuasion by becoming reviled by the general public and rendering himself politically irrelevant. A real 3d chess master.

    • @southwerk
      @southwerk Рік тому +15

      Harsh but very accurate.

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Рік тому +15

      Reminds me of how Adams simps in the comments section of the previous BTB podcast about him lamely tried to claim that he's a millionaire and we're not, so there! Yeah, well, Steve, imagine how much richer, happier, more famous, and more successful he'd be if he hadn't flown directly into the sun!

    • @gapsule2326
      @gapsule2326 Рік тому +12

      ​@@dinosaysrawrits funnier if you assume those are just Dilbert guys alts... I cant imagine he has hardcore fans

    • @stitchgrimly6167
      @stitchgrimly6167 Рік тому

      Trump did exactly that and got to be president.

    • @waywardScarecrow
      @waywardScarecrow Рік тому

      ​@@dinosaysrawrolmmmmmmmmmmmmlmmmmmmmmmmmm0++q

  • @lukemccann8930
    @lukemccann8930 Рік тому +271

    It remains completely insane to me that Adam's somehow thinks that persuasion means "be idiotically stubborn and insist you won the argument when the other side decides you're a moron and walks away".

    • @jeffengel2607
      @jeffengel2607 Рік тому +31

      Well yeah, but when you insist he's a moron and walk away, he's going to be idiotically stubborn and insist he won the argument. So he's certainly persuaded himself. Bigly!

    • @Okijuben
      @Okijuben Рік тому +9

      And lucky for Adam's, he lives in a world where there's no objective reality.

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Рік тому +21

      The preferred debate tactic of 15-year-old boys who just discovered Ayn Rand and Jordan Peterson last week.

    • @carlosbond5062
      @carlosbond5062 Рік тому +1

      @@dinosaysrawr15 year olds are discovering Ayn Rand? More likely they are discovering new 1st person shooter games! You make a valid point and it’s something I hadn’t thought of before! 👍👍👍

    • @Desmaad
      @Desmaad 9 місяців тому +2

      Like playing chess with a pigeon.

  • @fen7662
    @fen7662 Рік тому +137

    Love Scott's "I perceived myself smarter than 90% of my high school graduating class, therefore I have unlocked all of the secrets of the mind and am probably psychic or something" energy.

    • @spillanegottleib1681
      @spillanegottleib1681 Рік тому +8

      And the high school wasn't one of the ones in Taiwan where the failing worst students have 135 IQ's.

  • @StCrimson667
    @StCrimson667 Рік тому +158

    Scott Adams seems like someone who has been told his entire life that he's smart or a genius simply because he was kind of nerdy and privileged, but is, in reality, a deeply, deeply stupid person who really isn't all that curious about the world and actually has quite a limited vocabulary and doesn't particularly want to examine his understanding, vocabulary, and worldview because it specifically allows him to continue to believe that he's the smart genius that he was always told it was.

    • @jeremysmetana8583
      @jeremysmetana8583 Рік тому +1

      Dude, punctuation.

    • @PointsofData
      @PointsofData Рік тому +13

      Nah guy has talent...I think he just internalized the praise in a weird way as a kid/young adult AND THEN stopped being curious, etc. I'm very sure his parents and Jack Cassidy and every art teacher or co-worker who encouraged him NEVER intended to make...this.

    • @BloodWired
      @BloodWired Рік тому +25

      This guy, no joke, literally believed he was a chosen one in some capacity because his life was so easy and convenient, he didn’t know how to rationalize the struggles of others.

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Рік тому +9

      As a family member of mine likes to say, "He was told he was clever as a child."

    • @sd-ch2cq
      @sd-ch2cq Рік тому +10

      Lots of those in the media: Elon Musk, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Bankman-Fried. Priviliged dudes who grew up in schools where 'kinda nerdy' was the same as 'smart', got convinced of their own brilliance, and surrounded themselves by yes-men and/or 4chan edgelords.

  • @cuttingbored4195
    @cuttingbored4195 Рік тому +72

    Just a small reminder - “low energy Jeb” isn’t where Jeb fell out of the race. “Please clap” is where that happened 😆

    • @cybercop0083
      @cybercop0083 8 місяців тому

      All I know is that you have to walk the line as a prez. You can’t be a low-energy Jeb, but you should also avoid being a Jacked Up Joe. Politics, politics.

    • @wesleywyndam-pryce5305
      @wesleywyndam-pryce5305 2 місяці тому +1

      thank you reminding me of "please clap"
      I want a t shirt with just face and those two words.
      maybe the funniest thing to ever happen in politics

  • @_derpderp
    @_derpderp Рік тому +126

    Adams is the living, breathing PSA for not getting high on your own supply.

    • @gepisar
      @gepisar Рік тому +8

      would that supply be copium?

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Рік тому +4

      @@gepisar not sure if you meant that sarcastically, but yeah, you nailed it.

    • @jeremysmetana8583
      @jeremysmetana8583 Рік тому

      He loves the scent of his own brand.

    • @_derpderp
      @_derpderp Рік тому +1

      @@gepisar More delusional narcissism with a dash of un-ironic (to him) victimhood.

  • @brianjauch9958
    @brianjauch9958 Рік тому +67

    Scott's not the first guy I met who took mushrooms and thought he was a wizard who could predict the future

  • @russelljackson2818
    @russelljackson2818 Рік тому +43

    Crediting Trump with destroying Jeb Bush with a nickname is just absurd coming from a person who has lived through more than one election cycle. How many times has Jeb run now, and not even made it to the primary? Losing elections is basically all he knows how to do.

    • @spillanegottleib1681
      @spillanegottleib1681 Рік тому

      "Liberal media" has created Trump from the ground up, from his earliest days to right now. That is a subject that few if any are both willing and able to discuss.

    • @Virjunior01
      @Virjunior01 Рік тому +7

      And also that 12 years of two Bushes in the White House made people not want to even bother, as well as "please clap."

  • @loorthedarkelf8353
    @loorthedarkelf8353 Рік тому +69

    Scott Adams: "Well you see, reality split in half when I might have been wrong about something, but I'm right so EVERYONE is living in their own reality and I'M the special boy who can see the truth!"
    ... Sir I hit upon the idea of "everyone else is stupid" when I was 16, it's not a revelation. Or philosophy.
    This book is just one guy trying to convince himself he bet on the right horse by explaining it for 300 pages x.x

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Рік тому +8

      What teenager doesn't feel that they're the smartest and/or specialest person in the room? But, most of us outgrow that attitude by our 30s at least!

  • @SteverenoOFFICIAL
    @SteverenoOFFICIAL Рік тому +38

    I love Garrison's laugh. It goes between sounding like a laugh, to sounding like crying, to sounding like they've lost their mind, which is 100% appropriate in every episode 😊

  • @grotsoftsadventuresinelect8868
    @grotsoftsadventuresinelect8868 Рік тому +64

    I'm old enough to remember when Dilbert came out. I loved it then. As time went by I still liked it. Adams' books started amusing / interesting, then started to get "weird". For years I divorced the comic from the creator. Around 2016, with all his "master persuader" BS, I finally gave up.

    • @Arrowdodger
      @Arrowdodger Рік тому +11

      Scott Adams is all about being divorced, as it turns out.

    • @plantain.1739
      @plantain.1739 Рік тому +7

      Ya know I'll still defend the Show, but honestly being reminded of the bob bastard episode kinda made me remember how weird Scott is.
      Also now that I think about it, the trashman character is 100% some of this master persuader bullshit.

    • @RagnellAvalon
      @RagnellAvalon Рік тому

      @@plantain.1739 it's kind of like Star Wars
      ignore the idiot manchild who made it, appreciate the actual content

    • @KarmikCykle
      @KarmikCykle Рік тому +3

      @@plantain.1739 The Garbageman is definitely some kind of self-insert.

    • @Akutabai5
      @Akutabai5 7 місяців тому +1

      Idk what it says about me that I thought for a second you were saying that Dilbert (the character) came out as gay.

  • @OmniLiquid
    @OmniLiquid Рік тому +72

    What's even funnier about Adams' "prediction" is that there's an early (1991, maybe?) Dilbert comic in which Dogbert becomes Nostradogbert and his bit is that he will make vague predictions about things that will definitely happen and take credit when they come true, with one of the prediction being "there will be turmoil in the middle east", so I think he is aware of the grift he's trying to pull. It's weird that either he seems to think people don't see through it, or that he has fallen for his own grift.

    • @shaider1982
      @shaider1982 Рік тому

      Meh, that's like predicting the sun will rise in the east tomorrow.

    • @DichotomousRex
      @DichotomousRex Рік тому +24

      @@shaider1982 Yes, that's the point

    • @plantain.1739
      @plantain.1739 Рік тому +4

      It's really funny how often "The middle east will be in turmoil" is used as a punchline, and how often that is actually used as an example of someone being able to predict the future.

    • @MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot
      @MrxstGrssmnstMttckstPhlNelThot Рік тому +5

      @@plantain.1739 well it's been in turmoil consistently for a long ass time and unfortunately really doesn't look like its gonna stop being in turmoil for a little while. Unless Africa becomes the new major imperialist theatre again then maybe the middle east might get a chance to chill out a bit.

  • @seionne85
    @seionne85 Рік тому +41

    I was at a recycling plant and they had a few pallets of Matt Walsh's "what is a woman" to be shredded... Lol. I grabbed a couple copies since no money would go to Walsh

    • @trevfindley
      @trevfindley Рік тому +9

      That's wild. Do you think they were unsold, or had been bulk purchased by conservative orgs to try and get it on bestseller listings?

    • @seionne85
      @seionne85 Рік тому +11

      @@trevfindley I have no idea, but I think it's most likely that some large retailer overestimated what their sales would be and ordered too many. I'm not sure if they would be counted as sales in a situation like that, but unfortunately I imagine he got paid for them :(

    • @seionne85
      @seionne85 Рік тому +20

      @@trevfindley to clarify they were definitely unsold. They were all in boxes and shrink wrapped, not with random books, just probably 10k copies (as an estimate) of this single title.

    • @Lunar_Atronach
      @Lunar_Atronach Рік тому +6

      this just brings a wide smile across my face

    • @seionne85
      @seionne85 Рік тому +1

      @@Lunar_Atronach it did mine too! I wanted to share that with someone so thanks for making my day haha

  • @emilegriffith6082
    @emilegriffith6082 Рік тому +60

    Robert's hysterical laughing is my reason for existence. Sophie and Garrison are so cute.

  • @user-te5po4bu8o
    @user-te5po4bu8o Рік тому +18

    God grant me the confidence of a dude like this guy. They will think of whatever and imagine they invented it, and never bother to find out if that’s true or not. Then they’ll write a freaking book.

  • @heathersand73
    @heathersand73 Рік тому +15

    I still can't wrap my brain around how some people can look at Trump's words and actions and NOT come away thinking he's a complete moron!

    • @sirhenrymorgan1187
      @sirhenrymorgan1187 Рік тому +3

      Trump says what they wanna hear. He says all their private thoughts out loud and they eat that shit up.

  • @thebadshave503
    @thebadshave503 Рік тому +22

    Scott Adams feels like the boomer version of a pick-up artist. Same energy of fixating on "secret tricks that crack the code" of basic human interaction

  • @MissFussbudget
    @MissFussbudget Рік тому +15

    I heard the word "master persuader" so many times that it started to sound like "masturbater".

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake 9 місяців тому +3

      Would have been worse if he’d been arguing that Trump was a Master Debater

  • @RvEijndhoven
    @RvEijndhoven Рік тому +28

    Sophie's reaction to the words 'Salem Witch Trials' extended my life by at least ten years.

  • @erf3176
    @erf3176 Рік тому +23

    Dilbert Guy: I predicted the Trump presidency. I'm the smartest person in the world!!!
    Simpsons guy: I did it first w/o being a huge ahole about it.

    • @glennxserge
      @glennxserge Рік тому +6

      Dude is bragging about calling a coin flip 😂

  • @markrothenbuhler6232
    @markrothenbuhler6232 Рік тому +39

    My goal in life to to never end up being featured on this podcast. So far, so good!

    • @cybercop0083
      @cybercop0083 8 місяців тому +2

      My dream is to have a double-feature on this show and Forbes‘ „30 under 30“ list

  • @auramire6304
    @auramire6304 9 місяців тому +3

    My expression has been one of pure bewilderment for so long while listening to this that I'm worried I'll be stuck this way.

  • @rustkitty
    @rustkitty Рік тому +11

    Every time Master Persuader was mentioned made me think of Master of Disguise and now I want to see Trump dressed as a turtle...

  • @eileenheath1968
    @eileenheath1968 Рік тому +14

    "I'm going to start with Confirmation Bias and move on to Mass Delusion." - Well, Scott, that is your personal character arc!! (My husband Kevin cackled this - I can't take the credit)

  • @Chaosqueenngami
    @Chaosqueenngami 8 місяців тому +3

    The Dunning Kruger effect around Scott is so powerful it’s deserves study.

  • @Campernicus
    @Campernicus Рік тому +13

    An alien Dilbert-pilled my mom when I was little. I saw him and he just looked at me.

  • @done.6191
    @done.6191 Рік тому +16

    Ha! My friend who fell to Scott Adams/Trump brought up Plato's Cave while arguing for the Bell Curve...I wondered why at the time. Now I know.

  • @neonpink5556
    @neonpink5556 Рік тому +29

    "Linguistic Killshot" would be a great name for a spell utilized by D&D Bards.

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Рік тому +3

      It could totally become a thing

    • @DrZaius3141
      @DrZaius3141 Рік тому +5

      It's when you use metamagic on Vicious Mockery.

    • @press_x_tojason
      @press_x_tojason 11 місяців тому

      Honestly, it would be fantastic for Pillars of Eternity chanters dual wielding pistols.

  • @patricksinger357
    @patricksinger357 Рік тому +17

    I feel like Dilbert Guy listened to a bunch of pick-up artists, and was like "my god, i understand everything now!"

  • @OtterSC2
    @OtterSC2 Рік тому +96

    Trump isn't persuasive on political topics but he was a master of some types of persuasion: exploiting prejudice and grievances and belittling competitors. That's persuading the audience their bigotry is justified and to laugh at your opponents.

    • @miguelvelez7221
      @miguelvelez7221 Рік тому +22

      Not saying this is what you are doing here but...
      Can we not talk about how we got here without talking up Trump and most other Right Wing demagogues' "ability" in terms of persuasion or public speaking. Because it's in no way true nor has it ever been. Whether it's Hitler or Mussolini or Louis Farrakhan or Wallace or Jim Jones the common denominator is neither deeply thought out philosophically coherence in terms of policies nor truly nimble and emotionally resonant rhetoric fueled from sincere first principles.
      The common denominator is just a lack of shame and zero ethics or morals.
      It's not genius or a deft political mind. It's an inability to feel any shame or remorse while lying your ass off to make big groups angry... This isn't hard. It's actually the lazy person's approach to any and all political questions.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Рік тому +23

      This is the thing though: he's not persuading anyone to change their mind; he's just telling them that they're right about stuff. Anyone can do that.
      Also I feel like a master persuader wouldn't be facing as many sexual assault allegations as Trump.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Рік тому +12

      @@miguelvelez7221 - I agree, I think most people would be able to lead a mob if they didn't care what they had to say in order to do it. I do think there's an element of people *admiring* someone who doesn't seem to feel constrained by ethics or social mores, but that's tragic more than anything.

    • @miguelvelez7221
      @miguelvelez7221 Рік тому +15

      @@FTZPLTC As always, Trump as bad as he is, isn't the root issue.
      It's the people willing to follow anyone like him. And let's remember how once defeated these types turn on the last Messiah and wait for the new vessel for their resentments and aggression. W. Bush was sent here by God according to his supporters circa 2003.

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Рік тому +5

      ​@@miguelvelez7221- Absolutely, and I have to say, UK politics has mercifully avoided that trope of every Conservative candidate being depicted as either Christ or Christ-adjacent. I remember a GOP primary (I wanna say whichever one Michelle Bachmann was in?) where something like six of the candidates all said that God told them to run, which is like... either God really likes messing with people, or five of those people are lying! =D
      But yeah, we had a similar thing (albeit less so) with Boris Johnson, using the system to get himself into power, and absolutely everyone knew what a garbage person he was. So I have to conclude that at least some people *like* their leaders to be these shameless oafs who don't hide their failings and even brag about them. They can't be that in their own lives, but they wish they could, I guess?

  • @Luizi08
    @Luizi08 Рік тому +20

    The last part of the podcast was the funniest shit I've ever heard, just the way it is delivered is contagious

  • @RedGreenBrown
    @RedGreenBrown Рік тому +29

    I can't believe there's more Scott Adams stuff. I guess it's really turtle shit all the way down.

  • @Xenronnify
    @Xenronnify Рік тому +7

    "How to design a linguistic killshot" might be the silliest name of a section I've ever heard and I love it. And also I hate it.

  • @cjboyo
    @cjboyo 2 місяці тому +4

    You know how I know you’re right about Jeb Bush? Because when you said this I thought “my dad would like this bit. I should send him this podcast.” And then I remembered my dad is a lifelong republican who would not like this podcast, but WOULD laugh his ass off at the Jeb Bush bit

  • @cuttingbored4195
    @cuttingbored4195 Рік тому +10

    Persuasion = confusing the public. - Scott Adams.

  • @ryle2965
    @ryle2965 Рік тому +8

    Omfg, when you read the 98% prediction I said to myself "he totally picked that because it complements the 2% projection" and that's literally exactly why. I cannot fucking believe this man

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC Рік тому +11

    The best thing about Scott Adams is the Ben Garrison cartoon about him.

    • @sottosopravoce
      @sottosopravoce Рік тому +2

      They should hang it in the Louvre

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Рік тому

      @@sirhenrymorgan1187 - That would be funny but it's actually about Scott Adams *should* be anti-vax but wasn't.

    • @sirhenrymorgan1187
      @sirhenrymorgan1187 Рік тому

      @@FTZPLTC Aw, then I totally misunderstood the comic? Well, maybe it's a good thing I didn't get: that would mean my mind works like his does!

    • @FTZPLTC
      @FTZPLTC Рік тому

      ​@@sirhenrymorgan1187 - Assuming we're looking at the same one, I think Ben's mad at Scott for not being anti-vax sooner, and not admitting that anti-vaxers were right all along? Honestly it was one of my favourite cartoons because there's just so many ways to replace words with "cum" in it.

    • @JackgarPrime
      @JackgarPrime Рік тому

      ​@@FTZPLTCOoooh, that's the CUM comic? I remember that one now.

  • @plcthelegacy4131
    @plcthelegacy4131 Рік тому +7

    I find if funny Scott's self insert character is called the Avatar, cause he looks like Aang if he grew up to be a Crypto Bro.

  • @user-rx2ur5el9p
    @user-rx2ur5el9p Рік тому +15

    Scott's fixation on wanting to be able to predict the future is very strange. He's like a failed oracle.

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Рік тому +6

      my money is on him having a secret jeweled turban fetish

    • @dinosaysrawr
      @dinosaysrawr Рік тому +7

      ...especially when he gloms onto tools and philosophies that aren't designed for that purpose, like atheism.

    • @TheGallantDrake
      @TheGallantDrake 8 місяців тому

      It's sad, it's probably a side effect of how he was raised and he never quite got around to questioning it

  • @lindsayruiz
    @lindsayruiz Рік тому +16

    I conceal-carry my weapons-grade Master Persuasion skills for tactical advantage

  • @hpalpha7323
    @hpalpha7323 Рік тому +9

    I feel similarly to Scott Adams as I do Elon Musk, he's a guy who basically had it made, could have just kept his mouth shut and done his job and people would still have a shred of respect for him, but that wasn't good enough

  • @BaronVonQuiply
    @BaronVonQuiply Рік тому +4

    After hearing his praise of Chump for "inventing" things that have existed longer than civilization,..
    I am now willing to bet serious cash that Scott Adams is a big fan of e-Lawn Mush.

  • @ZBott
    @ZBott Рік тому +13

    Like most people who fell into Trump's Emperor Cult, Adams thought that Trump was brilliant when he was just really good at arguing and debasing. Trump learned how to work the crowd like a pro wrestler and so many people were taken in on the silly grift.

  • @alltheorynopractice5467
    @alltheorynopractice5467 Рік тому +14

    Oh good, Scott Adams is one of my favorite train wrecks.

  • @duffykhalsa8281
    @duffykhalsa8281 Рік тому +6

    I’ve been appreciating all of these gems dropped re: Dr. Phil (on a related note omg Bull is so painful for me to watch), Adams’s spiral, Taser/Axon, and everything around reading books, esp with Katy and Cody.
    I wonder how familiar BTB crew/guests are with the work of George Lakoff (e.g. “Moral Politics” and “Whose Freedom?”), and how an approach to politics/political science through that lens of cognitive linguistics might impact discussions like this one of Adams&DJT.

  • @FTZPLTC
    @FTZPLTC Рік тому +10

    I know this is a long way down the list of dumb things, but Scott Adams really doesn't know what a delusion is.

    • @suzbone
      @suzbone Рік тому +4

      Ironically, it's sort of at the top of fatal character flaws though

    • @TheGallantDrake
      @TheGallantDrake 8 місяців тому +1

      He really doesn't lmao

  • @parsecboy4954
    @parsecboy4954 Рік тому +3

    Hey, I am actively editing an article on Wikipedia while listening to this - at least I can cite a source!

  • @TheWinterscoming
    @TheWinterscoming Рік тому +2

    Garrison and Robert are always adorable together. Especially when they both say the same kind of interstitial words.

  • @done.6191
    @done.6191 Рік тому +5

    Always love to see Scott Adams taken down. He really should have stuck to Office Politics and stayed away from actual politics. He had every comic creator's dream---a license to print money, Garfield style---and squandered it.

    • @jon85753
      @jon85753 Рік тому +3

      I prefer his earlier dilbert strips. They were more about absurdism with a bit of engineering humor. Like the 'end road construction now' strip, I quickly got bored of the office humor, though.

  • @halkihaxx5
    @halkihaxx5 Рік тому +4

    He's confusing cognitive dissonance with cognitive bias. Cognitive bias is assuming you're right due to prior experience. Cognitive dissonance is the negative feeling from confronting things outside of your belief system. More fundamentally when contemplating seemingly mutually exclusive beliefs.

  • @yeahokay1051
    @yeahokay1051 Рік тому +1

    Im pretty new to this podcast but this is what ive been yearning for, a historical accurate of ridiculously bad problems we face today. Been a fan of some more news for years and years now, so glad cody and katy come on here too!

  • @chazblank2717
    @chazblank2717 8 місяців тому +2

    I remember reading his Dilbert futurism book, and recall it pretty accurately predicting UA-cam all but to the letter.
    Something about people’s media sources getting more fragmented and personalized while simultaneously becoming basically meaningless and generally less reliable or relevant.

    • @TheGallantDrake
      @TheGallantDrake 8 місяців тому +2

      It's not a terribly difficult concept to grasp, he's not the only one who saw it coming.

    • @chazblank2717
      @chazblank2717 8 місяців тому +2

      @@TheGallantDrake oh yeah, I definitely was NOT saying the art of Futurism (inasmuch as that’s a real thing a person can do) is at all inherently difficult. It’s always been tied very closely to science fiction, which means it’s something nearly always done as an intellectual curiosity from positions of relative comfort. Like science fiction stories, predictions of the future will invariably fall somewhere in a spectrum between apocalyptic horror and optimistic bullshit. While not technically in this genre the book was written primarily as one big parody of it, meaning the stakes of inaccuracy and failure were totally nonexistent. A classic nothing to lose, everything to gain situation.
      If anything this just goes to show that how much this type of information can be profited on is more directly a matter of privilege and platform than accuracy… or phrased another even more cynical way… a person’s productive capacity is measured as the sum total of their actual work plus the appearance of work they can take credit for 😆
      This absolutely includes things like generational wealth, wearing a nice suit, etc… but we’ve also seen how much of this performative keeping up of appearances are totally unnecessary post-Covid… like the idea of even needing to be physically present in an office building was a bit of a joke to Adams and well ahead of it’s time. And I acknowledge it’s only true for reasons he never could’ve guessed and in ways that obviously feel less funny living through. But I dunno man, just saying there WERE reasons people thought this dude was a closet socialist.

  • @Joenight100
    @Joenight100 Рік тому +5

    Can only associate "master persuader" with weird sex shit because of garbage pick up artist shit. So this episode's subject got even creepier that way

  • @eddiefragnito
    @eddiefragnito Рік тому +3

    Scott Adams mistaking pandering to persuasion is just so hilarious. Hes so delusional about his own intelligence in a silly way dude could be used as an walking psa to devillanize narcisists

  • @michellemarty7510
    @michellemarty7510 Рік тому +4

    Oh yeah only the Dilbert guy saw Jeb "Please clap" Bush not being president coming 😹😹😹😹😹

  • @machinesbreathe
    @machinesbreathe Рік тому +2

    If there were a photograph adjacent to the definition of "Main Character Syndrom" in a dictionary, Scott Adams' portrait would be the most appropriate choice.

  • @mantisesq
    @mantisesq Рік тому +3

    So much projection in that book. It's amazing. Great episode.

  • @LeoFieTv
    @LeoFieTv Рік тому +15

    Cute how Garrison adopted Robert's "Oh boy!"

  • @fishdude666ify
    @fishdude666ify Рік тому +3

    I used to love Dilbert; it used to be funny. I've read a couple here and there recently, and they really reflect his right break. As in they're just cringe-terrible now. He's at the top of the list of formerly cool people that went down the kookamonga highway and never looked back. A lot of my childhood involved looking forward to the newspaper just to read that day's Dilbert. I feel like I need to have a funeral for him. Dilbert not Scott, fuck that guy.

  • @rowanatkinson3594
    @rowanatkinson3594 Рік тому +1

    It's wild how this dude is *so close* to being on the right side of history and he just refuses to be over and over

  • @DogSlobberGardens-i7f
    @DogSlobberGardens-i7f Рік тому +3

    The only thing actually funny about Scott Adams or anything related to him is that my local paper ran "Dilbert" in the business section, not on the comics page.

  • @jeremysmetana8583
    @jeremysmetana8583 Рік тому +1

    You forgot to add the inevitable acknowledgement.
    YOU: I'm writing a piece on Scott Adams.
    ASSOCIATE: Who?
    YOU: You know, that Dilbert Guy,
    ASSOCIATE: (inevitable acknowledgment) Sigh... Oh, THAT guy.

  • @Calpsotoma
    @Calpsotoma 6 місяців тому +2

    Robert, just use a library. Defrauding Amazon only ends up hurting the seller, not Amazon themselves.

  • @malcolmdarke5299
    @malcolmdarke5299 Місяць тому +1

    The fact that Adams implicitly claims to believe that anyone who disagrees with him must be delusional speaks volumes about his ego and his level of contempt for people.
    Adams keeps coming so close to the truth then veering into head-arsery. Trump *does* have a certain ability to come up with pithy and insulting nicknames seemingly on the spur of the moment, and that probably *did* win him a certain amount of clout with the US public. The idea that that's some kind of political master stroke seems to me to be less than entirely congruent with reality.

  • @aila6814
    @aila6814 Рік тому +7

    just what i needed.

  • @MorgQ7
    @MorgQ7 Рік тому +5

    This I weirdly a full circle for me, I started watching the Podcast because of the Scott Adams episodes

  • @glennmartin6492
    @glennmartin6492 Рік тому +2

    Re Adams; an echo chamber is a terrible thing.

  • @henryfleischer404
    @henryfleischer404 Рік тому +3

    I assume you don't pay for books by walking to your local library. It's what I do, in part for the exercise. I recently had to get an inter-library loan, as the King County Library System does not have every science-fiction book.
    It's just too bad they don't have inter-library loans for CDs.

  • @done.6191
    @done.6191 Рік тому +2

    Scott...it was the first reality. That was the right one.

  • @resident-evil-jerma5389
    @resident-evil-jerma5389 Рік тому +2

    i haven’t finished the episode yet and i know it was a mouth typo but “he was one of the first ‘really pulled a 3d chess’ guys” is hilarious. damn!! this guy is playing (checks smudged writing on hand)… regular chess?

    • @IsaacMayerCreativeWorks
      @IsaacMayerCreativeWorks 3 місяці тому

      nah standard chess is 2d. the pieces are 3d because they are physical pieces but the gameplay is in two dimensions - any chessboard state could be portrayed on a piece of paper

  • @NopeNotHere.
    @NopeNotHere. Рік тому +3

    Marketing guy here with a background in sales psych/persuasion.
    Scott isn't using "persuasion" in the way you're interpreting it here. He's not persuading people in the 98% chance thing, or saying that Trump persuaded people to believe those racist things.
    Those are just the signifiers those two people used to show their audience that they were on the same side as their audience, and they could be trusted (for being in the same "tribe.).
    The persuasion being done, first, is persuading people to trust the person saying these things.
    It goes usually goes beyond that with piggybacking ideas when using this strategy, but all that Scott described here is just "persuading people to trust me as one of their own," by appealing to them.
    That's it.

    • @press_x_tojason
      @press_x_tojason 11 місяців тому +3

      So it isn’t persuasion at all, it’s just… saying what people already know they want?
      So Scott is still dumb?

    • @inimitableminimalist
      @inimitableminimalist 2 місяці тому

      I highly recommend the essay "the long con" by historian rick perlstein

  • @rorylynch1203
    @rorylynch1203 Рік тому +2

    After binging this podcast, I can’t help but be on constant watch for Nazis

  • @DeiUmbrarum
    @DeiUmbrarum 2 місяці тому +1

    So, if I’m understanding correctly, the secret to persuasion is looking out across the vast and varied tapestry of human experience and figuring that most people think like you, with special exception for the times when you need to like a persecuted genius.

  • @bkd69ster
    @bkd69ster Рік тому +1

    Came for the dragging of Scott Adams...stayed for the conversation about RAW.

  • @adamplentl5588
    @adamplentl5588 Рік тому +10

    Good morning comrades. Don't forget to drink some water.

  • @jronson
    @jronson Рік тому +2

    Trump's no Master Persuader; he just needs to roll higher than a one to persuade his base.

    • @TheGallantDrake
      @TheGallantDrake 8 місяців тому +1

      Hr didn't even persuade them, he just said things they already believed

    • @inimitableminimalist
      @inimitableminimalist 2 місяці тому

      @@TheGallantDrake yeah, he utterly failed to persuade them to get vaxed. to his minimal credit, he did try, but he got sick of being booed at his own rallies so he stopped.

  • @josephmatthews7698
    @josephmatthews7698 Рік тому +7

    Trump is not very persuasive he's just one of those guys that tells you what you want to hear until you agree with him. If you don't think any further he's amazing but if you're reasonable you'll eventually figure out he's full of BS and stop listening to him.
    For example I didn't care about him until during a speech he said he wanted to raise the minimum wage and help people struggling. I got excited and thought "Oh wow maybe this guys worth keeping an eye on."
    But then I dug a little deeper and realized he's also had speeches where he wanted to abolish the minimum wage and considered the unemployed leeches.
    The guy throws everything at the wall in the hopes something sticks.

  • @adamp3223
    @adamp3223 6 днів тому

    "Chained to a cave" is such editorless phraseology. "Students of Johnny Cash will remember that loving two women is like a cave and chain."

  • @brennenderopa
    @brennenderopa Рік тому +3

    He doesn't know the difference between a master debater and a cunning linguist.

  • @thetalkingbear
    @thetalkingbear 7 місяців тому +2

    Successful criminals are great talkers, so are dictators and despots. Trump fits in to all of those.

  • @magpieMOB
    @magpieMOB Рік тому +1

    The way Adams prefaces his Great Revelation feels like he's Paul the Apostle writing to the Corinthians about how he totally saw the Risen Christ you guys

  • @kaliver517
    @kaliver517 Рік тому +2

    WEAPONS GRADE PERSUASION**
    ** Actual persuasion not included

  • @Aury
    @Aury Рік тому +1

    Now I'm a mix of sad and angry, cause 98% is my go-to random stat to indicate extreme confidence, but now its always gonna make me think of Dilbert dipwit.

  • @BenjaminGlatt
    @BenjaminGlatt Рік тому +1

    Fun fact, Trump actually said, "big league," that one time which, while stillc stupid, is at least an actual phrase people use.

  • @Demonstray
    @Demonstray Рік тому

    18:57 "Make him take a Will save" gave me war flashbacks to D&D 3.5e. Now I wanna play Pathfinder 2E with Robert.

  • @MeganKoumori
    @MeganKoumori 4 місяці тому

    I don't think Scott Adams ever stopped doing mushrooms.

  • @Nderak
    @Nderak Рік тому +3

    scott doesnt know what persuasuion means

  • @user-kz8zr4si3i
    @user-kz8zr4si3i Рік тому +3

    I was really looking forward to dilbert guys insights gained from magic mushrooms. That sounds like a doozie

  • @robertkachman9107
    @robertkachman9107 Місяць тому

    Master Persuader sounds almost like Scott Adams is calling Trump a Master Debater

  • @rooster6461
    @rooster6461 11 місяців тому +1

    “One of the top cartoonists in the country”
    I dunno bro, blondie exists.

  • @Matti_Sisu
    @Matti_Sisu 3 місяці тому

    I used that same kindle loophole for friggin years 😂

  • @mrbarnesworth8391
    @mrbarnesworth8391 Рік тому +5

    Who's Scott Adams?

    • @JeniJustJeni
      @JeniJustJeni Рік тому +11

      He's the man behind the Dilbert comic strip.

    • @GrimAxel
      @GrimAxel Рік тому +8

      A guy who got fired from the cartoonist equivalent of tenure by being racist.

    • @alexcarter8807
      @alexcarter8807 Рік тому +1

      Indeed. Adams did the only actual "salaryman" comic in the US. "Salaryman" comics are very much a thing in Japan, and the US needed one. Adams stole defeat from the jaws of victory. He had tenure all right. The cartoon stopped being funny when he got rid of Ratbert though. @@GrimAxel

  • @joshuascholar3220
    @joshuascholar3220 Рік тому +2

    Oh nooooo!

  • @Sinyao
    @Sinyao Рік тому

    Near the end of the presidency, people were talking about how thankful they were that Trump spent so much time golfing, else he could have gotten more stuff done.

  • @Akutabai5
    @Akutabai5 7 місяців тому +5

    Scott Adams is evidence that some kids don't get bullied enough

    • @Philbert-s2c
      @Philbert-s2c 7 місяців тому +3

      As somebody who was mercilessly bullied as a kid, I approve this message.

  • @WalkerRileyMC
    @WalkerRileyMC 8 місяців тому

    No one's gonna mention the two dozen times Garrison and Rob say the same thing at the same time with the same exact intonation?

  • @peterdickinson4599
    @peterdickinson4599 6 місяців тому

    A hundred years ago this guy would have found a perfect home in the Rosicrucians.

  • @Demagora
    @Demagora 11 місяців тому +1

    I haven't listened to this podcast, but I recommend it nonetheless.