The Fountain Explained - A Theory/Explanation on the Plot of The Fountain
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- Dave Chen from www.slashfilm.com explores the story behind Darren Aronofsky's The Fountain.
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Very underrated masterpiece, I love this movie.
Me too
another underrated masterpiece is the assassination of jesse james
It's beautiful and meaningful.
You have good taste.
meow
this is what happen when you make a movie for the human spirit , soul , for the the spirituals , some low life without soul or brain will come tell you it's a bad movie. this is the best movie i've ever seen.
I feel you.
I wouldn't say that this is from the best movies but it definitely puts your brain to work..
Same
Definitely top 10! I cry every time I watch it.
what's so brainy about this movie?
in my 27 years, best film score ever
+James Livingston Clint Mansell is a fucking BEAST!
Me and my dad watched it 20 times (i'm not lying) and every time we analyze it and still have some question marks, but now I think we finally got to Awe.
This and Requiem for a Dream both have amazing scores!
I listened to the soundtrack for years before I watched the movie. I didn't want it to ruin the music. It didn't!
James Livingston Also for me (17 years old)
"When you eat from the tree of knowledge, the tree of life is hidden for you" is the analogy I found, revolving in all the three versions. Tree of knowledge represents human's perception of death as a disease and immortality as cure. Tree of life represents acceptance of death, because death concludes life. Which conveys, when you try to escape death you are missing life itself. In all three versions he is looking for immortality to save her, (sap from tree of life, Medicine, Nebula's rebirth). When she said she is full and held, she accepted death and the tree of life revealed to her. She wants him to embrace death and experience it by himself and deliberately left the last chapter for him to finish it. In the end, all three embraced death. The conqueror drank the sap, could not contain the soul in his body and merged with earth (accepted death physically). Dr. Creo instead of taking the path of lab (tree of knowledge), took the path where she went (tree of life) (accepted death mentally). Astro Tom smiled and said he is going to die, left all he carried with him(knowledge) and he merged with the creator himself (The first father) (accepted death spiritually). The nature of death as perceived by three versions also had to do with the time it happens ( see four age-cycles or yugas ).
Overlaying your Christian beliefs discredits the movie itself.
Death is a decease that is not immoral. Is fact.
Whether you use knowledge to prolong life is not being immoral. Knowledge has prolong human life and help humanity better itself than any pseudo religious beliefs in the whirlwind.
@@Epyon2007 quoting a biblical ref doesn't mean I'm religious. I just looked it from a spiritual point of view. If you think you know all about life and death, you could just be ignorant and not know it. Debating beliefs Vs science (basically you're talking about technology) is just noise, there seems to be something more that this movie captured in a way, which I guess you missed. And btw, immortal and immoral are two different things.
"Creo" means to know in Spanish
the best explanation I've seen so far.
@@mrblank-zh1xy more precisely "I believe"
The first time I saw this movie, I loved it, but I knew for a fact that it would've done disastrously in the box office. The beauty of this film lies in its nuance and subtlety that allow you to interpret it based on your personal perspectives and points of reference. From a Buddhist perspective, all three storylines are real. The first incarnation of Thomas was driven by his ambition and lust. The second, more enlightened, incarnation of Thom was driven by his love for Izzy and his passion to defeat death, which he incorrectly identified as suffering. The astro-Thom or the Arhat-Thom, who had advance far enough along the path of enlightenment, achieved a certain level of liberation but was still plagued by attachment throughout the film, until he learned to let go of the self and accept death, thus liberating himself from the karmic cycle.
Excellent interpretation!!
***** repeat viewing definitely helps with this movie, and this is one of those rare movies that can hold up to repeat viewing. From a Christian perspective, the film can be seen as a spiritual metamorphosis in which mankind transforms from a narrow dogmatic understanding of faith to metaphysical spiritual union with the divine.
Xavier Aponte thank you.
Spot on!
Great stuff. I read the film completely differently but this interpretation is very impressive.
I'm not surprised people said awful things about it, it's definitely not a movie for weak minds.. As condescending as that sounds, it's true.
I totally agree. I have bought it about 7 times haha gave the 6 as gifts. one of the most underrated movies to this day.
nice
Totally agree. If your ready to see the truth and beauty of this film, its an incredible experience.
most people just want a spoon feed story. the best thing about this movie is that it has a lot of layers of theories and ideas, which makes me enjoy it more and more each time I watch it.
yea, most people are on a basic level of thinking. self validation and good fun times.
This is one of the best movies I've seen in my life and I've seen like million of them.. Needless to say it's not for everyone, not everybody can think and understand so profoundly. It takes me to a whole different world, makes me feel some really inexplicable things and every time I watch it, I need certain time to recover from it. I don't know how to put it into words, but I feel touch of death after watching this movie, it both terrifies and frees you..
Somehow your words were able to articulate everything I didn't think I could
Thats because you are what could be consider a reincarnation. A soul that has been reincarnated over and over. Coming across this movie that depicts so deeply the true nature of spirit and life and the journey invark in both aspect reflects on your soul. It feels more like a sign of release.
You feel as though this movie confirms your deep understand of our existence as soul. I know this movie helped you remember a few things from your past life experience that has connected you to a deep level of soul searching that has connected you to your past and the many memories you have lived. Though you can't physically remember them you can feel them.
You felt them in the tears you dropped as you watch this movie. That feeling in your chest was the feeling of remembering, remembering the fact that you have been here before and have already done this thing we call "the journey of life".
@@mewrozchannel3330 🙏🏻💙🙌🏻 I loved what you said ….it had been a very long time without seeing this movie this movie, fast forward to the now, and I get such a different feeling and perception of it now that I’ve been on my spiritual journey for sometime. I felt this deep in the soul.
Have u link for download
All of this!!
Best part of the movie is the soundtrack
i mean... the ost was amazing
Incredible
Even the OST follows the '3' theme laid out in the rest of the movie.
True
Nahh it was just a big fucking cherry on top.
While there is a lot of symbolism in this movie, it's actually a pretty straight forward movie. There's 3 different stories; Past Tom, future Tom, and Izzy's fiction story.
Basically, the tree of life is real. After Izzy dies, he develops an eternal life compound from the tree that everyone on earth benefits from. Hundreds of years pass, humanity advances to the point where technology is soo ingrained in society, that it's basically invisible or like magic. The bubble is a highly advanced space ship, with propulsion and gravity and life support.
He brings the tree with because it's the tree he planted over Izzy's grave. Her body would have been long ago absorbed into the tree growing over her grave. So the tree is in essence, all he has left of her. He had it dug up and placed inside the bubble, where he was set off on his journey.
What probably started his journey in the first place was that advances in science probably made it possible to predict when a star is going to go super nova, and that meant he could plan to arrive at the exact time it would explode. How long this trip was, no one knows. He could have been floating in that bubble for potentially centuries. That's not to say he couldn't have gotten there quicker, it's just he set his journey's pace based on how long he needed to take to get there on time for it to explode.
Along the way, he basically lived off the tree, sustaining him. He meditated a lot, and eventually started to have visions or hallucinations. After all, he was essentially in a deprivation chamber 24/7. During his trip, he wrote the rest of Izzy's story in his mind, picking up where she left off. He probably always wanted to write it, but could never quite know how to finish it. He probably ran it through his mind thousands of times over the centuries. But in the bubble, his mind was clear and he was finally able to come up with a satisfying ending.
Obviously, he had lived centuries at this point, and was ready to die. He of course knew that being reborn was symbolism, since we are all made of star dust. Even when we die, the material that made up our bodies still exists in one form or another. And it's that fact that is at the heart of rebirth.
We could infer a lot about his life after Izzy. I don't think he ever fell in love with anyone else again. I think he probably had a normal life for the most part, but was probably very secluded, trying to find meaning in life. With eternal life for all, the earth was probably changing in a lot of ways, too many to even discuss.
Underrated comment.
The tree in the spaceship is not the tree Tommy plants over Izzy's grave. This is one of the most fundamental misreadings of the movie. In the final scene, the camerawork emphasizes that Tommy is still wearing the ring - that is, he did not choose to operate on Donovan (when he loses the ring) and goes on a walk with Izzy instead. So this final scene is entirely disjoint from the main storyline where he loses the ring, but finds the cure to death, prolongs his own life, and persists Izzy in tree-form.
When spaceship Tommy finally accepts death and explodes, he is taken back to that pivotal moment of decision. Crucial to understanding the movie is recognizing that when Tommy chooses to walk with Izzy instead of pursuing the cure to death, that is his ultimate acknowledgement of finitude as what imbues life and love with the utmost meaning. So the seed Tommy plants in the end is just a seed - not Izzy, not a Tree of Life - just a normal seed that Izzy gives him on their last walk together.
dont say it is straightforward then type so much, you dipshit. al you did was present your own interpretation that makes sense to you. don't say it is straightforward on those grounds, you putz!
There is no interpretation going on here. There's 3 different stories; Past Tom, future Tom in space, and Izzy's fiction story. That's not open to interpretation.
The rest was just an in depth explanation, and probabilities of what things could mean, like how Tom's life probably went between Izzy dying and him getting the bubble spaceship. It's clear he never moved on from Izzy, otherwise he'd have others to live for. It's not likely that he married dozens of times in his hundreds of years lifespan, then have Izzy become the focus again as he takes a spaceship out to go kill himself. It's clear that Izzy was his last love despite all those years he lived after her, and that he was tormented by her loss.....because he was the man who discovered immortality.....right after his wife died. That's a pretty cruel reality to live with. You save billions of people from death.....but not the one you love most.
In the deleted scenes, you could see him essentially taking hallucinogens. There is literally a deleted scene called 'life on ship', which is of him in the bubble, and he's drying out and eating mushrooms.
No I don't think you got it at all. You can't take the story on face value. The only true part of the story is the present day with Tom trying to cure Izzy. When she dies he finishes her book and adds the story of future Tom heading to the nebula of Xibalba to heal the tree of life. However future Tom learns to deal with his own mortality and the death of his wife. So the story is a way to cope with the grieving for his wife and he finishes the book just like she always wanted.
He is writing the book and doesn't want to finish it cause that means he will have to let the last part of her die, that's what makes it so sad.
PeyoteIguana it not a book, it's real, the book was used for inception. He made it all come true. Or at least it's what I believe
I sympathize with his character. For him, his romantic attachment (for lack of better words) is the driving force of his passion and goal of defeating death. But it's pretty easy to take it a step further and see that "Death is a disease, it must be cured," and therefore take one's personal love and transform it into a universal love. Spiritually speaking, this is not a foreign concept, but rather the idea of a maturation and an alignment with divine power (for lack of better words).
@@Oxxyjoe It's also about living in the now and appreciating it, without the need for needing "more" or "better". Mindfulness. We die, that's what makes life and time precious.
The movie ends with Dr. Tom saying "Goodbye" to his dead wife. Future Tom is Dr. Tom's character finishing Izzies book.
The book was a guide to go to the next world with her to live together eternally. His love for her pulled him through time and made him immortal. It's just... there are no movies out there like this.. this is the most powerfull love story I've ever seen in any domain.
How could any human being not absolutely love this movie. It's so captivating
I saw it and it was heartwarmingly inspirational.
I found it quite boring when I first watched it. But luckily I rewatched it a few months later and it became one of my all time favourites. I have watched it over 20 times since then. I guess I wasn`t just in the right mood or state of mind when I first watched it. When I would have been a critic at this time I saidly would have given it a bad review too. I am sure there are some critic who regret their bad review from back then.
Because it forces you to come to terms with death. Most people are in denial.
because narration is bad... thats y u need to watch it 3-4 times... and then watch a video like this to fully get the plot...
because it requires you to think and most people dont like to think
My favorite film ever, I think I could watch it...forever..
Same. I could watch this film for all eternity! Haha. Amazing film. ..I don't think I'll ever appreciate a piece of filmic art, as much as I do this film.
Tarah Lynn
Is there anything similar to this movie available for viewing pleasure?
I found it rather enjoyable.
Swaglord350 check the Interstellar !!! :)
Stanislav Kazakov
Thanks bro, the movie that just came out right, I have heard good things about it.
Why watch it when you can do it?
The tree of Life is attained by eating/drinking the tea of the Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark.
This is a type of Acacia Tree.
The Free Masons know this and worship the Acacia Tree.
No Joke. It IS the Tree of Life.
Make Ayahuasca from MHRB and Syrian Rue.
But you will have to die as you are and be renewed in Eternal Life.
The essence of this movie is the struggle to except death of the EGO and surrender to the Eternal-Light.
It is a very hard thing to do.
I have come close to it once.
The feeling of freedom is incredible while you let go of the constricted egoic state and expand your consciousness into infinity and eternity of primordial BEING.
Here is how to do it.
Read my comments and Orange Juice recipe on that page!
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One of my all time favorite movies. I have been telling friends to watch this movie for years. Unfortunately most don't have the same passion for it that I do. I think its just too poetic, artistic and/or just too deep for a lot of people.
For someone who deeply analyzes and looks for deeper hidden meaning in movies, this movie is a masterpiece.
Como dije más arriba: NO todos los seres humanos son lo suficientemente humanos para apreciar una Obra de Arte. en-men.blogspot.com/2016/10/la-fuente-de-la-byddha.html 20-11-2022
true!
Concur 100%
Pretty much spot on. Except the timeline changes and, as a result, all subsequent events. Once Astro-Tom accepts death, in turn accepting his own mortality, he finishes the story. This somehow changes his choice to follow his colleague into surgery 500 years earlier, and he instead follows Izzi outside. Since he never goes into surgery he NEVER loses the ring! Which if you look closely, as he brushes snow off Izzi's grave, you'll see he's wearing. I believe this also means Tommy accepts death and does not go on a Quixotesque quest to defeat it. Thus the future timeline (Astro Tom) winks out of existence. The Tree of Life appears to be an Oak and the seed pod Izzi gives Tom is from a Sweet Gum tree. So, two different trees. The Mayan Priest, in a vision, recognizes Tomas as First Father allowing him to pass and Tomas sacrifices himself (unwittingly).
yah,,it can be like that.
thats the beauty of this film.so many possibilities can happen that makes it beaautiful.
Interesting interpretation.
I like this interpretation the best. I mean they put to much importance on the ring for it not to mean anything. I was trying to figure it out and you just explained it perfectly.
Skip Carver NUTSHELL 😎👌
Yeah this totally makes sense.
And also in this case it shows everything is connected and essentially an infinite Loop which is why I think it shows the rings so often and the circles
This movie made me watch it multiple times. Both to understand it and to make me feel it. Yes You feel this movie. Left me wanting more of this mind blowing masterpiece. I don't think it was advertised correctly and it takes time to sink in. I rented this but I think I need to purchase it.
Add to that the original cut was 2.5 hours long and he was forced to cut 45 mins. I want to see the full version.
is the full version available to purchase?
It's never been released. I'm hoping for a director's cut one day.
Mark David piratebay is your friend
Get on popcorn
This has been my favorite movie ever since the first time I watched it. People just dont realize how deep the movie goes and how elaborate it becomes at the end.
Nos hace llorar con mi señora. Como dije más arriba: NO todos los seres humanos son lo suficientemente humanos para apreciar una Obra de Arte.
en-men.blogspot.com/2016/10/la-fuente-de-la-byddha.html 20-11-2022
No offense to Brad Pitt, but he couldn't pull the acting range that Hugh Jackman did
Wonderfull movie, music to die for.
Music to Live for! :-)
This movie made perfect sense to me when I watched it the first time and thought it was a beautiful film.
Also the bubble... I thought it was just a force field that "astro tom" had created around the tree to transport it.
Thats because you are compassionate and intelligent.
Ok Mr. Humble, then what are you doing here on this video...
@@Imperial_Cosmonaut To see other peoples interpretation perhaps?
Tomas and Astro Tom doesnt exist. Its about present-day Tom's acceptance of death. Tomas is in a book Izzie created and Astro Tom is Tom's subconscious moments before he dies in his death bed. The director of the movie said in an interview that he wants people to come to their own reasons but he created the movie about accepted death of loved ones and of yourself. Astro Tom accepted death at the end of the movie and thats because present-day Tom accepted death and at that very moment his life slipped away. I think this movie is a love letter to death. It doesnt have to be bad, its "The Road to Awe" after all.
My thoughts were similar, though I viewed Tomas as being in Izzie's book and Tommy (Astro Tom) as being the mind of Tom, with the struggle to keep the tree alive being a reflection of Tom's struggle with his work in an attempt to avert Izzie's fate. In the end, when Tommy shows up in place of Tomas, I view that as Tom fulfilling Izzie's wish that he finish her story.
I can definitely see your view though, as he planted the tree in accordance with the story Izzie has told him. For your view, you see the tree in the Tommy line as being a memory held alive by Tom on his death bed, as both Tomas and Tommy die in the story, making sense that it is foreshadowing the death of Tom as well.
That's one of the things I love about this movie, so many subtly variations in the way it can be seen - everyone sees it a little differently.
the three worlds are ONE... in spain, as he kneels before the queen you can see the tree of life pattern on her dress... the same pattern is on the hospital floor when they show a birds eye view of her bed... the pattern he tattoos on his arm is found on the glass at the hospital... the lights in the background are all the same hue as the ascension to xibalba, he is walking down the hallway in the hospital and there are TWO LIGHTS in the background symbolizing Xibalba
The queen says " For every shadow, no matter how deep, is threatened by morning light" and then makes TOMAS kneel and they let in the morning light shine on him... when Izzy dies, he destroys the blinds in the hospital room and then you see that in his darkest moment, the morning light shines on him again...
future tom to me is spirit tom... not "FUTURE"... inner spiritual world happening in present day Tom's life... TOMAS is a story being told to help him see the nature of his true existence...
This and hundreds of more connections to each world... I'm gonna watch it again for the thousandth time tonight! lol
Well at the end you see Astro Tom smiling at Present time Izzie and saying with a smile "I'm going to die". To me that pretty much sealed the deal on my interperatation. It's a beautiful movie even the soundtrack. These kinds of movies don't come along often.
Leonardo Torres I see it the same way, no more times than present and Tom dealing with and finally accepting mortality, his wifes and his own. A long way to overcome his fear, he ate almost all of the bark. Little by little. One of the best movies ever made.
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great video, but I think you're over-analyzing the whole thing..
the most important quote for the movie is: “it seems we struggle for a lifetime to become whole.. few of us ever do.. most of us end up going out the same way we came in - kicking and screaming! most of us don't have the strength or the conviction.. most of us don't want to face our fears”
the whole movie is about accepting death.. Life cease when we die.. as Death cease as we give birth.. Life and Death are not "enemies".. they're equals.. if we want to summarize it in one sentence it would be:
" WHAT CANNOT DIE.. IS NOT CONSIDERED TO EVER LIVE "
in my own opinion, is one of the best movies I've ever seen.. and believe me, I've seen a lot! I've seen them all!
Death cease at the moment of two human beings are destined to make more humans.
I agree. I just want to.
Very powerful!
some go easy. others worry about the demons they created in this life that will follow them into the next. this is why i think the bible is created. to guide through life without suffering the the way way that others have.
A masterpiece of a movie. You don't have to fully understand it to enjoy it. There's two routes the story can take. Either Tommy gained immortality from the tree that saved Donovan and space Tom is actually real or it was him finishing Izzi's book. Either way, great film.
27ShowStopper the immortality is the idea...that time is an illusion, past present and future don't exist like Einstein said
Totalmente de acuerdo. Como dije más arriba: NO todos los seres humanos son lo suficientemente humanos para apreciar una Obra de Arte. en-men.blogspot.com/2016/10/la-fuente-de-la-byddha.html 20-11-2022
Great point I always thought of it as him finishing the book and coming to terms with death in the end showing that Izzy book helped him come to terms with death .and the other two past and future toms being fiction toms the book toms in other words. Always imagined that Tom stopped his research after finishing the book and just started living .but also kinda thought in the back of my mind their all real in different parallel universes but the same soul reaching shebalba and finally intersect and become one at the end
When I first seen this movie I was going into my late twenties . And started having health issues. Before I really didn’t care if I lived or died doing crazy stuff all the time. I think a lot of us feel that way in our twenties not invincible but very careless . In the sense of coming to terms with death this movie gave me an aspect of peace that I did not have before. Great film will always have a spot in my heart.
My favourite movie of all time, I just finished watching it again and it just gets me every time. It's a film I often don't want to share with people because the majority of them won't "get it", which really saddens me, this film deserves so much praise.
Nos hace llorar con mi señora. Como dije más arriba: NO todos los seres humanos son lo suficientemente humanos para apreciar una Obra de Arte. en-men.blogspot.com/2016/10/la-fuente-de-la-byddha.html 20-11-2022
Oh and the people who disliked The Fountain are,,, for lack of a better term... Dumb. They are the type who have to be spoon fed information.
The only film that breaks me down to tears. Find it and own it.
Agreed. I just wept at the end, after seeing it for maybe the fifth time. It's a timeless, beautiful love story.
pretty weak comments from the critics
The film was a marvel and it's one of the not so many films with an exceptional soundtrack.
I think it's just about the money. They destroy any movie that isn't 100'% formula and mass market.
Hugely underrated film. Absolutely beautiful for the low budget. Heart-wrenching story.
I have seen the movie several times over the years and I interpreted it the very same way. This explanation just naturally occurs after rewatching it. There is one more possible scenario and that is that the "future" storyline might just be a metaphor for the state of Tommy's mind that feels lonely, endless and there are just flashbacks of Izzy giving him the answer he doesn't want to accept the whole time until he comes to terms with definitiveness.
Ive watched over a thousand times and the music puts me in a place I never want to come out of. Can't get enough of it
Light and shadow is one of the things the design team explicitly mention in the special features. So often a cliche visual, it's used well in this movie as signifying truth or an acceptance. Tommy hides in darkness, he shuts out light whenever possible, whereas Queen Isabella actually commands someone to, "Let in the morning light."
Excellent point
Yes. Este es un fil acerca del aprendizaje, pero LA HUMANIDAD NO QUIERE APRENDER. Como dije más arriba: NO todos los seres humanos son lo suficientemente humanos para apreciar una Obra de Arte. en-men.blogspot.com/2016/10/la-fuente-de-la-byddha.html 20-11-2022
My interpretation is that Astro Tom is Tom and his ''Ship'' is includes Izzi's grave with grown tree from that seed that he planted. Now that he is so close to a star as it explodes they are exploded with it together, turning into dust that will live forever in the Universe.
this film is like all those famous paintings, everyone interprets it in their own way. this story is abt love and how its so difficult for us to leave it when it ends
I've viewed this movie more times than I can count. I was even pulled over speeding to the theater. Now after 200 or so times it struck me. The pivotal scene that unlocks it is when he is washing Izzi. He's washing a tree branch that becomes Izzis arm. He didn't get to save her in human form but he gets to the ultimate goal of sacrificing himself for the tree. The ultimate love, giving yourself entirely for someone or something else. That's his own whole goal to save his queen. 1000 years... Mission accomplished.
The Fountain and Interstellar are the best movies ever made.
Fight me.
i was in a discussion with some dudes and i was saying i haven't seen any decent movies in a while , saying that i mean tier 1 movies , there are good movies but not for my taste , i consider tier 1 movies : Interstellar, Inception, The dark knight
That's how I understand it.
Tom is a doctor, who desperately tries to cure his wife from cancer. She asked him to finish her book, then dies. All that conquistador's adventures in the beginning is from the book.
Tom couldn't accept her death. He was stressed out and decided to read and finish the book to calm down. All that tree in the bubble take place in Tom's head, and he probably wrote it down in the book. He was not a writer so he come up with a very lame ending-the escape from death on the ziggurat and turning into flowers was just ridiculous. When he finished the book he accepted the death of his wife and planted the tree on her grave. The end.
Just saw it for the first time and I believe the rings symbolism is him being with her. The only way he can be with her is through death and he can only ever put the ring on when he accepts death. Spain Thomas got everlasting life which means he is separated from what he actually wants forever.
I also got a little hint that may not mean anything but each story has a point where Tom just misses an opportunity. Izzi dies just before he can fix her brain tumor, Astro Toms tree dies before he reaches the nebula, you could say this is Izzi dying again, and Thomas 'dies' just before reaching the tree of life. Maybe the story was just a way for Tom to show himself what would happen if he got eternal life and what rejecting death lead to. That's what the book may be for. Izzi wrote it to make Tom accept death. Which he finally gets in the end.
Oh and the last lines in the movie are him finally seeing her in heaven after his death. As he finished the book, he accepted death and finally got eternal life with her.
+kbg12ila I think the moral of the story overall is that life is nothing without death. The tree of life is nothing without the dying star. Tom is nothing without Izzi.
amazing analysis, thanks
The entire story is based in Kabbalah. The one mind used the tree of life to become the many in spacetime duality. This was to escape the loneliness of a timeless all know existence. Adam and Eve symbolize the division of self and the union of duality. To search for our other half is an endless story of love and loss, thus is the human experience. Stop fearing the future and holding onto the past its the here and now that matters. When you realize that you can just enjoy the journey.
Its rather silly how people label things they don't understand as something left to personal interpretation. I see this when it comes to Tools music as well. In plain sight this story is told in many films and sung in many songs. Once you've studied the Mystery schools its undeniable. Phil Collins "in the air tonight" is the same story in a song. Trinity and Neo embody this endless loop of time where the two are forever united and torn apart by entropy which plagues the illusionary experience of spacetime duality. The point of the story is that all humans must come to understand they are alone in the end because there is really only one of us experience this story ( the meaning of Trinity's name). In the end the Atman must become ok with his nature in order to be free of his fear of it. Must watch "Mr. Nobody" great movie , very well done in presenting this ancient story.
Kabbalah is a heresy of Judaism, largely embraced by Hollywood sycophants and celebrity low-lifes. Its an amalgamation of Judaism and modern New Age silliness. This movie, however, is great!
Cory Dupont....and yet the movie is still based in Kabbalah teachings.
PS- if that's how you perceive Kabbalah you must not really know the teachings or their connection to the Mystery schools.
I understand Kabbalah well enough - I used to practice it! Anyhow, the film is not based in Kabbalah, and there is nothing from Aronofsky (who is a self-proclaimed atheist) or any of the other filmmakers involved that indicates otherwise.
.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sephirot
Sephirot (/sfɪˈroʊt/, /ˈsfɪroʊt/; Hebrew: סְפִירוֹת Səphîrôṯ),[1] meaning emanations, are the 10 attributes/emanations in Kabbalah, through which Ein Sof (The Infinite) reveals himself and continuously creates both the physical realm and the chain of higher metaphysical realms (Seder hishtalshelus). The term is alternatively transliterated into English as Sefirot/Sefiroth, singular Sephirah/Sefirah etc.
Alternative configurations of the sephirot are given by different schools in the historical development of Kabbalah, with each articulating different spiritual aspects. The tradition of enumerating 10 is stated in the Sefer Yetzirah, "Ten sephirot of nothingness, ten and not nine, ten and not eleven". As altogether 11 sephirot are listed across the different schemes, two (Keter and Daat) are seen[by whom?] as unconscious and conscious manifestations of the same principle, conserving the ten categories[citation needed]. In Kabbalah the functional structure of the sephirot in channeling Divine creative life force, and revealing the unknowable Divine essence to Creation is described.
The first sephirah describes the Divine Will above intellect. The next sephirot describe conscious Divine Intellect, and the latter sephirot describe the primary and secondary conscious Divine Emotions. Two sephirot (Binah and Malchut) are feminine, as the female principle in Kabbalah describes a vessel that receives the outward male light, then inwardly nurtures and gives birth to lower sephirot. Corresponding to this is the Female Divine Presence (Shechinah-Hebrew: שכינה). Kabbalah sees the human soul as mirroring the Divine (after Genesis 1:27, "God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him, male and female He created them"), and more widely, all creations as reflections of their life source in the sephirot. Therefore, the sephirot also describe the spiritual life of man, and constitute the conceptual paradigm in Kabbalah for understanding everything. This relationship between the soul of man and the Divine, gives Kabbalah one of its two central metaphors in describing Divinity, alongside the other Ohr (light) metaphor. However, Kabbalah repeatedly stresses the need to avoid all corporeal interpretation. Through this, the sephirot are related to the structure of the body and are reformed into Partsufim (Personas). Underlying the structural purpose of each sephirah is a hidden motivational force which is understood best by comparison with a corresponding psychological state in human spiritual experience.
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And what about the mushrooms? Therein resides the key.
I loved this movie. Not often is it that a film makes you think as much as The Fountain, and far less often is it that a truly meaningful movie is a hit. I'm glad that it never became very popular because that can ruin a good story, and I believe that in keeping it a little more hidden, this film became even greater for me. The plot was great, so was the acting, and if I were traveling the great journey of Astro-Tom, I'd have to appreciate the incredible music.
The film is amazing, and the soundtrack is stunning... so many interpretations, best just to jump in and love.
Noah and the Fountain are both connected. The creation scene in Noah shows the birth (or rebirth) of the universe starting in Xibalba (The visual style is exactly the same if you compare the two). The seed that Noah plants is the same seed that Tom plants. The tree in the Fountain looks like two combined trees while the tree in Noah has the two parts separated. It's all a big loop. Tom is restarting the universe. Or I could be over thinking this whole thing.
Did you notice that the seed given to NOAH is the same seed that was given to Thomas in the Fountain. I think I am on this crazy boat with you.
I'm still appalled that so many missed this masterpiece; it lets me know how special, unique, and important human life and its conscious expansion are to the experience of the universe.
Very thorough and insightful. I need to revisit this movie soon!
Izzy is the tree of life. All three story are real. Izzy rights the book to remind Tommy what he has forgotten, he knows how it ends. The only way he can save Izzy is to sacrifice himself giving life to the tree. After he does, the tree of life is reborn. Tommy and Izzy are reborn throughout time, but only Izzy remembers who they are. The story repeats itself over and over forever.
anyone else started eating tree barks hoping to live longer?
Then you didn't get the ultimate meaning of this movie! haha
Yes I have.
The tree of Life is attained by eating/drinking the tea of the Mimosa Hostilis Root Bark.
This is a type of Acacia Tree.
The Free Masons know this and worship the Acacia Tree.
No Joke. It IS the Tree of Life.
Make Ayahuasca from MHRB and Syrian Rue.
But you will have to die as you are and be renewed in Eternal Life.
The essence of this movie is the struggle to except death of the EGO and surrender to the Eternal-Light.
It is a very hard thing to do.
I have come close to it once.
The feeling of freedom is incredible while you let go of the constricted egoic state and expand your consciousness into infinity and eternity of primordial BEING.
Here is how to do it.
Read my comments and Orange Juice recipe on that page!
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Jesus is the one and only Way. He is the Truth and the Light, the resurrection and the life.
@@PrinceJes *MAY ALLAH GUIDE ALL WHO ARE SEEKERS OF THE TRUTH*
"He is Allah besides Whom there is no God, the Knower of the unseen and the seen. He is the Beneficent, the Merciful. He is Allah besides Whom there is no God, the King, the Holy, the Author of peace, the Granter of security, Guardian over all, the Mighty, the Supreme, the Possessor of greatness. Glory be to Allah from that which they set up (as false gods) ! He is Allah, the Creator, the Maker,[5] the Fashioner: His are the most beautiful names. Whatever is in the heavens and the earth declares His glory; and He is the Mighty, the Wise” Quran 59:22-24.
Say (O Muhammad), "I am no more than a human like you, and it has been inspired to me that your god is but One God. So whoever longs to meet his Lord shall do good deeds and never associate anyone in the worship of his Lord." Quran18:110
O you messenger, deliver what is brought down to you from your Lord. If you do not, then you have not delivered His message. Quran 5:67
We have sent you (O Messenger) with the truth as a bearer of news and a warner. Quran 2:119
"He has ordained for you the same religion (Islam) which He enjoined on Noah, and that which We have revealed to you, and which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: namely that you should remain steadfast in religion and be not divided therein.” [Quran 42:13]
After the corruption of the older Scriptures, the Quran came with a twofold purpose -- to confirm the true and original message of Islam, and to stand as a witness to it, by confirming the truth and rejecting the falsehood, which over time came into the older Scriptures. Muslims are required to believe in the revealed Scriptures and to make no distinction between any of them, or the Messengers who brought them, may Allah exalt their mention, because they all come from the One True God.
The Quran says (what means): "Say (O Muhammad to the Jews and Christians): 'We believe in Allah and that which has been sent to us and that which has been sent down to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob and to Al-Asbat, (the offspring of the twelve sons of Jacob) and that which has been given to Moses and Jesus, and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam).” [Quran 2:136]
Say, "O people, the truth has come to you from your Lord. Whoever is guided is guided for himself and whoever goes astray does so to his own detriment. I am not a trustee over you."Quran 10:108
If they turn away, your sole mission is the delivery (of the message). God is Seer of the people. Quran 3:20
Say, 'It is the truth from your Lord', then whoever wills shall believe and whoever wills shall disbelieve. Quran18:29
“And had your Lord willed, those on earth would have believed, all of them together. So, will you (O Muhammad) then compel mankind, until they become believers?” Quran 10:99
“And the duty of the Messenger is only to convey (the Message) plainly.” Quran 29:18
"This Book (The Quran) there is no doubt in it, is a guide to those who keep their duty, who believe in the Unseen and keep up prayer and spend (charitably) out of what We have given them, and who believe in that which has been revealed to thee (O Muhammad) and that which was revealed before thee, and of the Hereafter they are sure” Quran 2:2-4.
"Blessed is God Who sent down theFurqan (the Quran) upon His servant that he may be a warner to all the nations” (25:1)
“Say : O mankind, surely I (Muhammad)the Messenger of God to you all” Quran7:158
Say (O Muhammad), "What thing is the greatest testimony?" Say, "God is Witness between me and you that this Quran has been revealed to me to warn you with it and whomever it reaches. Do you bear witness that there are other gods besides God?" Say, "I do not bear witness". Say, "He is but One God and I am innocent of the shirk which you commit. 6:19
“There is no compulsion in religion. Verily, the Right Path has become distinct from the wrong path. Whoever disbelieves in taghoot (false gods) and believes in Allah, then he has grasped the most trustworthy handhold that will never break.” Quran 2:256
Verily, proofs have come to you from your Lord, so whosoever sees, will do so for (the good of) his ownself, and whosoever blinds himself, will do so to his own harm, and I (Muhammad) am not a watcher over you.”Quran 6:104
“Whosoever does righteous good deeds, it is for (the benefit of) his ownself; and whosoever does evil, it is against his ownself. And your Lord is not at all unjust to (His) slaves.” Quran 41:46
Verily, this (Verses of the Quran) is an admonition, so whosoever wills, let him take a Path to his Lord (Allah).” Quran76:29
"This day have I (God) perfected for you your religion and completed My favour to you and chosen for you Islam as a religion” Quran 5:3.
They want to extinguish God's [guiding] light with their utterances: but God will not allow [this to pass], for He has willed to spread His light in all its fullness, however hateful this may be to all who deny the truth. Quran 9:32
Shall I seek other than God as a law maker, when He has revealed to you the Book fully detailed? 6:114 The word of your Lord is complete, in truth and justice. 6:115
if you love The Fountain I’m sure you’ll fall in love with the tv show The OA!!! please watch! it it’s more than just a tv show it’s an experience
Excellent deep dive. This movie has been haunting me since its release. After all these years I think I understand what it's about. I'm considering doing my own review. I'm seeing what others have to say. I love your take and insights. Cheers.
You are correct. It is made very clear in the movie that it is being told from Future-Tom's perspective. The starting scene is from the 1500 Spain story but then immediately cuts to Future Tom waking up screaming. He was replaying the 1500 story in his head. We then see him have visions of 2006 Izzy telling him to 'Finish it' and we see a bald Tom go back into 2006. I know some people this Future Tom is 2006 Tommy's mind/feelings etc but the film essentially shows us that the 2006 scenes are flashbacks/memories and the 1500 scenes are part of Izzy's book. Future Tom tattoo's the amount of decades/centuries on his arms and even uses the exact same pen given to him by Izzy to do so. There's so much evidence pointing to Future Tom being real and the actual 'present day' character from the films perspective.
Really great analysis Dave. You should definitely keep doing these. For me I thought that most of your interpretation was spot on. However I did think there was a very reasonable explanation for why Astro Tom was doing what he was doing. It seemed to me that Astro Tom was on a sort of suicide mission. The tree that had for so long given him life was now dying. So he came up with a plan in order for him and the tree to live forever. This plan was flying to Xibalba. However the problem that Astro Tom faces on his trip to Xibalba is that he knows it is ultimately doomed, but he keeps trying to push this rational out of his mind. This struggle is personified in several scenes, like the one shown in your video, where Astro Tom sees his wife and tells her to just leave him alone. He does not want to be reminded that his mission will most likely lead to his death, and he does not want to be reminded that he needs to finish her book. But like you pointed out Dave, eventually Astro Tom comes around and is able to accept his death. He is able to finish his wife's book and ends it with the Conquistador finding the tree of life but this ultimately leading to him dying and becoming a part of the Earth, in this way he "lives" forever. I believe that Astro Tom discovers that this is the way to end the story because he realizes that he has to end his own life this way. Astro Tom knows the tree is dying and knows that he does not have long to live, he also knows that if he does reach the dying star called Xibalba it will not give him the eternal life that he originally wanted. So Astro Tom, unlike the Conquistador, decides instead that he should go up to Xibalba and accept that while it will not make him immortal, his death will lead to new forms of life. In this way Astor Tom becomes the "First Father" and also is able to finally accept death. I'm not sure how much of this is just reiterating what you already said Dave but it sounded like in the video that you were having some trouble rationalizing why exactly Astro Tom does what he does at the end of the movie. I thought I had a interpretation that could maybe help your view of the film. I hope this wasn't too long but I thought such a good video deserved an equally good response.
Very insightful video. I've chosen to take a more simplistic interpretation of the film. I believe that reality is where Tom is fighting to save his wife from dieing. Tomas' quest is part of Izzy's book what she has written. Tom in space, is Tom granting Izzy's wish and him completing the book. I feel that planting the seed at the end was symbolic of him accepting Izzy's idea of death. Furthermore, I believe that completing the book was a form of Tom coping with his lost love and conceding to death's seemingly perpetual triumph over life. It would make sense that Tom's conclusion of Izzy's book would be visually represented in manner that it is, The visuals give a sense that one is looking at them under a microscope. I think Aronofsky himself said he was inspired by watching yeast under a microscope when he came up with the aesthetics for Xibalba.
Anyway you slice it this film is phenomenal and transcends many of my top 5 lists.
this is one of the best movie I ever seen In my life. its music was straight from pradise. I saw this movie 6 years before and I lived everyday of my life in this movie. cant explain ...
From the moment our Universe began, we have all been assigned a purpose, a mission if you will.
We first ate from the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil
Which is why we are here on earth, we experience both Good & Evil, Pleasure & Pain, Hot & Cold
Earth is the realm of Duality
Only Life cures Death
Our goal is to achieve enlightenment by eating from the Tree Of Life
I still haven't seen the movie, I'm going to buy it tomorrow based on this video. I figured it out already. The movie is about how tom makes his transition from man to a god. His wife's writes a story that he is inspired and compelled to make come true. He cures himself of death, leaves earth, and goes to the dying star! Threw patients and enlightment he moves up the latter and space to the dying star and once he leaves his bubble, it could also mean he finally got the courage or saw something worth removing himself from the protective bubble which was he reached the dying star. Once there the star starts a Big Bang effect and his ashes and the tree of life which his wife was buried under using the oxygen also creates a new earth. In which his wife and queen keeps her promise that they will live together forever and they are reborn together. Awesome. I can't wait to see it and buy it tomorrow!
You need to be both intelligent and aware of its existential themes enjoy this movie. So I'd say most people would not fall under that category. Modern consumers are dumb and they want a simple plot with flashy effects and marvel jokes. I thought this movie was beautiful and it makes me think about the people in my life that have died.
My best movie of all time !!!
Seconded.
I've watched this so many times....and the sound track even more.
I just love the sound track
You made this movie?
Ville John Stop it. The context allows for that statement's validity.
Eventually someone with whom I share love for that movie and especially with the multiple ways to see the neverending fight against death for love. Great video, thanks a lot !
This movie is a Masterpiece !
+sarjal das A magnum opus!
one of the 10 best movies i have ever seen, another point this review missed is that we tend to spend too much time on things that are useless while leaving the real thing for later which may never come .... really excellent movie, makes you think about how you are running your life
he isnt a future self per say as in a spaceship or that his a space man.... his soul is passing on to the next life......the traveling is the merging of life...flash backs and certain keys of his life are flashing before him playing out their roles until his road of awe ends........with love as the answer....his undying love.....
oooh good one! that's actually pretty cool
One of my favorite films. Just beautiful beyond words. I understood it immediately.
the psychological battle with in, the human experience. our drive for glory and everlasting life. iggy is the road to awe. acceptance of what will be. it is death that makes us beautiful. a lifeless being might not love as deep as one where the clock is ticking. finish it!
its not a space ship it is his soul ridding the tree of life into the eternal !
this ^^
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nah, its definitely a spaceship
I literally can't believe I just watched this movie. It's amazing on every single level and it's sad to hear that it didn't do too well because this film is a MASTERPIECE is my heart
OMG!??, this is Hugh Jackman’s best work Hands DOWN!!, this shit is trippy AF, but really really good.. it def makes u sit and pay attention… but GODDAMN it’s SSSoOoo bugged out lololol
One of my favorite movies of all time. I don't know that it needs to be explained. It seems every time I watch it I get something different and I love that.
Saw this movie for the first time the other day. Was really, really good. ... loved the cinematography and the soundtrack. Great casting and set design. ... Loved how The Fountain stories in this movie (The Queen-Conquistador and The Astronaut) really made me think about the law of conservation of mass in relation to the cycle of life and the eternal characteristic of the soul within the context of our universe. ... Though the contrasting cultural aspects were a great touch that really made the film pop. ... ... ... My take on the flick: It's the tragic love story of Isabel and Tomas. ... I interpret the present story as their real life events. And, the past story and the future story as The Fountain. The past story is Izzy's contribution to her book based upon her romantic interpretation of their recent past events (4:09, 10:45). Based upon her brave conquistador willing to boldly charge into the unknown against impossible odds to save her (her mind) and Spain (her body), which is dying of cancerous inquisition. ... Tom's tragic love story is rooted in the present and drives the movie forward in time. But, he doesn't start writing the final chapter of The Fountain until he is ready to deal with his grief and travel The Road to Xibalba (5:09). ... When Tom starts the final chapter, he beings with the astronaut (8:06). I didn't understand Tom's haunting final chapter of The Fountain until I re-watched Izzy's Holy Pyramid and I Will Be Your Eve scenes and The Dying Star and Always With You (5:44, 6:00 8:10) scenes where Izzy explains what her-story is about. ... ... ... In the Mayan culture, death is merely a passage to another world, like stepping from the world of the living (The Queen of Spain) and into the world of the dead (The Astronaut). ... ... ... In Tai Chi, one does not fight the natural order of things. ... ... ... So why did Izzy turn her conquistador into a bed of flowers? I can only speculate: 1) Izzy likes flowers, 2) she wanted Tom to crossover and join her at some point in time, and 3) perhaps the tree of life in her book represents the cycle of life we are all a part of. ... ... ... The irony is that people do not change: Even in the final chapter, Tom's Astronaut is still obsessed and Izzy's spirit (ghost) is still in pain.
I completely agree with your analysis--it's been my interpretation of this film since I saw it in the theatre. I think that Astro-Tom was trying to reach Xibalba because of what Izzi said about it being the Mayan underworld. Once it goes nova, then death would be undone and Izzi would live again. In the intervening hundreds of years he may have actually convinced himself it would happen, but upon arriving, reason took over and he realized that the only way to join Izzi was to follow her on the "road to awe".
That is the best vision of this film that I can agree with you 100% . Also a great mind opener to the human fear of death and the road to awe :-)
@@vampyrhunterD55 Yeah, but thre is nothing after death.
Ladies and gents! We are totally forgetting the quote from one of our holy sources at the beginning of the movie. It is the key to it! The movie's plot is about the struggle of man dealing with mortal life since "eating" from the tree of life would have made him live forever and that was a major "no! no!" after becoming sentient and understanding right from wrong, if you remember well. The movie's main characters represent the Yin and Yang or the anima and animus of human nature. The affinity for each other is the drive in the struggle. "For my queen, for my wife, for my beloved. I'll search, I'll find and I'll conquer even death so that love is not taken away from me." (Get it?) In the end we come to understand that it is not a "tree of life" but rather a "circle of life." The movie presents this as a composite visual metaphor of three interconnected time lines. I think it is a breathtaking piece of work combining facts and cinematographic techniques with the talent and beauty of the actors. OK, that's my piece.
loved your analysis.
btw, do you have any thoughts about the scene where space tom eventually finds the ring and puts it on his finger.
''Stop aging, stop dying''
I will always be amazed by how the film was able to show a love so strong. One of the all time purest couples in love portrayed in a movie, in my opinion. Though it wasn't a happy ending or story the stage of the relationship we were seeing and was sad seeing Tom go through such pain over loosing Izzy, it shows just how far love can drive a human being in love...to loose that. Love can be a amazing thing but comes with risks, so worth it too experience it at that level.
Verdad. Como dije más arriba: NO todos los seres humanos son lo suficientemente humanos para apreciar una Obra de Arte. en-men.blogspot.com/2016/10/la-fuente-de-la-byddha.html 20-11-2022
I agree that the Spanish Inquisition part is Izzy's novel. However, I believe that the astronomical Tom is real life's Tom's (Dr. Tom) conscious & his internal fight between his different thoughts.
Death leads to awe reminds me of a space odyssey where the astronaut dude goes 'it's full of stars'
Film is so good. It could have been even better if Aronofsky was able to create his true vision. There are many interpretations I have heard and liked. One that I came up with on my own is that it's about humanity's quest for enlightenment. Tom and Izzy symbolize the world of duality (life/death, male/female) etc. Tom's attachment to Izzy (not being able to let her go) is preventing him from enlightenment. When he finally accepts death and let's her go he is able to attain it at the end of the film. He essentially becomes one with the universe and then becomes the flowers. He becomes part of the world and is no longer separate, living in the world of duality.
My basic interpretation, Conqueror Tom is the spiritual ancestor of Scientist Tom, the reincarnated form of him. Scientist Tom is Astronaut Tom 500 years in the past. He goes to Xibalba after living centuries of life using his compound which allows cellular regeneration. But he never forgets his first great love, Izzy. It haunts him for all his days. Then, after a horrific global war that destroys most of Earth's population, and ends the lives of many of Tom's friends and loved ones and leaves the Earth in a shattered state, he decides to commit suicide. He travels to Xibalba in a space ship carrying on board Izzy's tree. After many decades of space travel, reaches his destination. He ends his story, rather their story that is (Izzy and Tom) by heading straight into a star in the nebula, in a symbolic action.
It is quite beautiful, a very creative and wonderful story. The movie was underappreciated. But, glad to see that it does have a cult following, because it is such a great story and the film was truly excellent.
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HogwashMcTurnip Yes.
Chu Kim Whatever.
My thoughts are in tune with yours. I take it one step further on a philosophical level and like to think that Astronaut Tom upon merging with the nebula is in fact entering into what Hindu's refer to as the Brahman. That is, "the unchanging reality amidst and beyond the world." It is also referred to as "the highest reality." In a sense, it is the Hindu form of god wherein all the individual beings (presumably in metaphysical states, which I would like to think Astronaut Tom is in) become a part of this cosmic being (again, the Brahman). Just like the physical form, which is temporary, one could even argue that the highest form of reality is also temporary. As such, we see Conqueror Tom die and perhaps enter into the Brahman (after being devoured by nature so he could "live forever"). We see natural death as we know it today with Izzy as a part of Scientist Tom's story. We can assume this Tom also dies, as do all. But his thoughts live on of wanting to live forever, and moreover, wanting to be with his lover eternally. And through time, he does in the form of Astronaut Tom who dies the ultimate death and merges with the dying star entering into the spiritual alternative reality of the Brahman. Together at last with his lover and everyone else for that matter. It's even more beautiful when you begin to view love as itself metaphysical, yet attraction is physical. Tom was attracted to Izzy (we can assume physically and psychologically). However, the love he shows for her is not limited to time or physics. It exists even when she dies, and he dies, and continues to exist. When the screen fades to black it is truly all that exists.
Chris Romans Holy shit that is pretty deep.
The tree is also Izzy, that's why the hair on her neck stand up. Life is consciousness, it intertwines, the seed on her grave, burnished from her decomposing body.
She's a queen, a writer, a tree....the symbol of the yin energy, the mother, the creator...He is the yang energy, male dominant,...by the end the male female energy become whole, one. Returning to source.
I think in the explosion of the dying star, Tom's essence doesn't die but instead is fused into the tree in which his lover resides thus reuniting them in death and letting the two of them be part of a birth of new life that comes after the death of a star.
The "Astro Tom" sections are the dramatization of Izzy's final chapter that "Present-Day Tom" writes to complete her book. Just like the "Conquistador Tom" sections are a dramatization of the book Izzy has written. The past and future settings are imagined and represent Izzy and Tom's ideas around death.
Izzy sees present day Tom as her Conquistador. Away on a conquest to save her and find eternal life. In the book, Queen Izzy sends Conquistador Tom on this journey.
Present day Tom takes what he knows of the book so far, the ideas Izzy had around death and his own emotions around death and finishes it, per her request. Astro Tom is the dramatization of the final chapter.
Izzy tells Tom that the book ends with the dying star and he completes that journey for her. In doing so, present day Tom must confront death and honor Izzy. The tree in space becomes the symbolic vessel for Izzy and for life. Astro Tom is also a symbolic manifestation of present day Tom. In that he carries the same fears and sorrows regarding death with the same aspirations to find a way to extend life in pursuit of the dying star's energy.
In the final moments, the tree dies, Tom is forced to let go and he Is enraptured by the dying star. It's a release, a discovery and a natural embrace of what lies beyond death.
I enjoyed and loved this movie. I felt like I was having an incredible experience I could never put in words. I was so immersed in it, I didn't care what it meant. I felt as if I was given a gift.
This is exactly how I have felt watching this movie…the emotions are as strong and complex as any other artistic creation has ever made me experience. The ‘real’ meaning matters a lot less to me…
the most plausible explanation is that Creo dies and doesn't live until the year 2500. The Fountain was a gift from Izzy so that he can cope with death and grieve. Chapter 12 is the conquistador drinking the tree sap and simultaneously crashing into the nebula. That's why the final two scenes happen one after the other, as he has just written them in chapter twelve.
Excellent interpretation of a truly fantastic film :)
Careful. You need to see this film with a open mind. If you don't It will crush you and break you as you try to understand it and fight its views. The Fountain is about acceptance of death.
This movie literally changed my life. Interstellar makes me believe we have a chance.
Interstellar is a Hollywood movie.
Interstellar is awesome. Maybe you should not see it as a science fiction film but as a story about love, transcending space and time?
If you thought Interstellar was "Just" a movie then you missed the point.
Ned Beasley
My point is that it has nothing to do with actually leaving earth. Its totally fiction.
This movie is absolutely heartbreaking. Not only the death-accepting fact, but the almost irrational fear of losing someone you love and adore. This whole tension from the main character on revisiting moments where he would've been closer to her loved one. Even more so than death, this movie speaks to me on the fear of losing someone you've connected with and wanted to be with for who knows how long.
I believe Aronofsky's quote stats that all those who examine the film deeply get the message he meant to deliver, but they arrive through their own specific assimilation of the material (story, imagery, music, etc.) in the film; thus, everyone is correct if they end up with the same meaning of that material. It is kind of like how one interprets / practices Buddhism, I think.
this film reminds me kubrick's films a lot it does not explain much but makes you feel great emotions
It does explain everything, and it has a very simple plot. Only the present events in the movie are supposed to be real. The medieval events are just what she wrote in her novel as she came to grips with dying. The future events are what her husband wrote, when he finally got around to finishing her novel, as pert of his grieving process. It is just the simple story of a novel being written by two deluded people.
Those who understand this movie understand the concept of eternity, the human soul and psyche. Those incapable of understanding this movie will be recycled into the earth when they die. Maybe they’ll figure it out next time around, eons from now.
I saw this movie in the theatre , and then again when they did a second viewing a few years later. One of the most amazing beautiful spiritual films ever
The past timeline definitely was Izzy's story and I think was a direct metaphor for her current situation. The inquisitor was her cancer, I think Spain was Izzy, and Tom was the conquistador of course. The inquisitor was the scourge of Spain, and Tom would die for Spain if it ment Spain's survival.
I found this movie very intriguing and completely fascinating because of the fact that it left me in awe, just like it preaches.
I like that the plotline is open to interpretation. For sure a very interesting story
My theory is that Izzy's story is the part in Spain and the New World, but that she leaves it open ended at some point where Thomas reaches the temple. The rest of it, based in the future, is Doctor Tom's "version" as he finishes the story, as she asks. And that the reason that Astro-Tom has so many similarities to Doctor Tom, is that it's an author insert. It's his way of trying to deal with the grief of his wife, so he writes this story, inserting himself as a future man, trying to take his dying tree (wife), to the one place that could save her. That he is drawing parallels, intentionally, from what happened to him in real life, and the basic premise that Izzy established with her story. So Astro Tom has the ring tattoo motif, which is reminiscent of rings of a tree, basically making a new ritual for Astro Tom, based on the thing he actually does in real life.
So New World story, and Future story, are both the book "The Fountain", and the bits in modern day are the bridging events, blended in with the fiction that he writes.
I may be remembering wrong, but I seem to recall a scene where Doctor Tom is reading The Fountain, and gets to the part where the Izzy stopped writing. And I seem to recall that part, was paralleled in the movie with Spaniard Tom ascending the stairs to the tree? And being confronted by the native man? I forget exactly, but I think that's roughly correct.
+happyninja42 I don't understand the part when the mayash guy sees conquiztador as the 'first father' ,but he is not. The conquiztador is the thommy version of looking for immortality for his love,as seen in the rush for sucking that substance, and then realizing that,in this search,you only see death somehow,because it is scared that plants grow from him. It's not open minded like astro Tom . The future thommy and past one don't match in that part of the film.
Baltatu Andrei Yeah, it's a little weird I admit, I personally don't know how well it transitions. I have my own theory though, that, in the book, that Doctor Tom wrote, that was how he transitioned Spanish Tom to Astro Tom. That he was worked into the earth at the root of the tree, and then eventually came free to become Astro Tom and pilot the ship. That *in the book*, there is no Doctor Tom, but those are simply visual connections to transition from one scene to the next in the movie. That the tattoo ritual is just a bit of real life that Doctor Tom worked into the character to have a personal connection. It doesn't work exactly as a reason, I admit, but it's what makes the most sense to me.
Arsalan Khan In his story, her soul was part of the tree, and was still alive, but slowly dying. He was racing to get her to Shibalba just like he was racing to find a cure for her cancer. It's all muddled I agree, but I don't really care, I enjoy the movie too much. xD But, I mean, if we look at it from the viewpoint of a story, which is what it is, or at least my theory. He came up with the best plot connection he could, considering where Izzie left the story open. And he's not a great writer, he's a doctor, so he didn't do a great job of continuity and plot holes. xD
+Arsalan Khan It's up to you what you choose to believe. I like to think a little bit about what movies like these wanted to express,but not deep thinking,not in details.Also this movie seemed more ambiguous than Memento and Mr nobody,to me at least. It let more holes for the viewer to fill and the story itself is emotionally stronger, deeper, abstract.
I have always subscribed to the theory that
1500: Izzys story
2000: Real story
2500: Tom finishing the book.
WAY more evidence supporting this theory than him ACTUALLY living 500 years.
I mean the whole point of the movie is that death is inevitable and something to embrace rather than run away from.
So it goes against everything the movie stands for if he actually found the cure to death by living for 500 years.
I think all your points are spot on.
the video is on point with everything, except I definitely think that the tree is Izzy... And when the super nova explodes star dust will create all. No real plan by Tom but that something big is going to happen, maybe Izzy and Tom's matter will be fused together in some cosmic eternal being... but when the tree dies, Izzy dies, just like she dies in all of time, inches away from immortality. Inches away from Tom being with her forever. Message being that the chase for immortality is eternal, and the tragic nature of that chase is also eternal. No technological advancement, no being, no physical entity can save anyone from it. FOR THE RECORD, I definitely think its obvious that Astro-Tom and his ring tats, is the proof that Tom has cured 'death' with his research. But in the grand scheme of it all is all for naught if he can't be with his true love. (The movie is kinda Sappy that way... get it? heh heh) Also puzzle fodder: Izzy Creo - Izzycial - Ezekiel? Also its interesting how this film is very similar to Prometheus, with the idea of a First Father.
Yeah i had the same interpretation, that izzy is the tree. Astro tom travels to the dying star to deliver izzys soul. I remember there was some part where izzy told tom about a friend of hers and how he said that the souls go to the star or something. So i made the assumption, that the travel to the star kinda symbolises how tom got O.K. with izzys death.
This is legit my all time favorite film but I didn't like it when it initially released. Watching it again during the pandemic, hit me on a deeply profound level.
If you like it, you are very intelligent.
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I had your exact interpretation upon seeing it. It is also one of my favorite films of all time and the score always brings me to tears. I'm so glad that it has achieved a cult following. I did not understand how so many people could be confused about the story. I found it to be very straightforward, with enough ambiguity to make it tantalizing and enhance its replay value.
This is one of the most brilliant movies ever made despite critics
Everything in this movie makes sense...this is what i call art not twilight.not transformers.not iron man...........there is Millions of examples of movies that take alot more than what it deserves.
My favourite movie till today. Everything about it is a masterpiece with the best score ever written for a movie.
I lean toward the interpretation that puts Spaceman Tommy as Tom's inner psyche or mind during Izzi's death. That's why Tom sees the nebula explode as he places flowers on Izzi's grave. Tom has given himself up to death in the spacecraft (when his intention was to defeat death beforehand). As he comes to terms with Izzi's death and even his own mortality, Tom sees the nebula exploding as a symbol.
yeh, which is why he was carving on himself to signify how old he was, amazing interpretation!