@@_endortv_i actually think his shield is fine i get so many finishing blows with it. The ability it has to ricochet so u can just throw it at a wall or the ground near a target is great
@@leroyroberts8112frrr I always jump up into the air but then lose almost my entire health bar because I think that I can hold up my shield in the air.
The key to Peni is playing cover. If you can set your nest up behind cover, while still having enough to protect you while moving in the radius, you can build a nice little base of operations. Place a couple of mines underneath you to counter dives, then just keep lobing em at the enemy as they get off cooldown. You'd be suprised at the amount of extra damage you can do to people who just don't shoot them. When using her ult, prio strategists and enemies that are 1. Also understand that her ult is great for area denial/intimidation pushes, even if you don't eliminate anyone. Her melee on ult knock enemies slightly back and up, so account for that when stacking swings on a single target. She can be very strong for both attacking and defending, provided you set your nest in places that give both agressive and defensive benefits (clear sightlines with ample cover to slip behind). Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Forgot to mention, you can use her web pull on convoys to get ahead to defendable positions. Use this to set up a beachhead with your nest to give your team some breathing room.
You can extend the area of effect way around corners by adding webs too. U can use web net to do this. Took me way to long to realize this lol. The area of effect with her tower when extended is wild.
Also, the drones made by Peni's (heh) nest aren't confined to her nest. They're confined to her webs. So you can place webs around corners for her drones to follow. Then, when you ult and start laying a trail of webs, the drones can follow that.
I like that, should you be in an emergency, you can use your entangle ability and the swing ability on the floor below you to create a back up mini empowerment zone. It can be the difference in trades.
Cap is the embodiment of "either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain" Part of Cap's origin story (MCU) is him getting beat up in an alley. Now he is beating up people who got lost in an alley way (out of positions target)
@ItsRyanHello and probably like how you play rein, you're using it wrong. If you use cover properly and also use your cloak you really shouldn't need more sustain especially when you are playing a tank that also happens to be ranged
and if it had much more health ppl would complain its too tanky, its fine the way it is, like others have said you also xan actually hit ppl from distance so you can play around cover more @@ItsRyanHello
The way hulks ult ult is meant to be used is just before it runs out as it plays the full animation whilst keeping all the ult hp. So it can extend your ult and keep one of them stunned for like 3 seconds
My issue with the ult is that you're just vulnerable to everyone even the person you grabbed. I don't think it's good but I want invinciblity so it's worth the value or give reason to use the grab but again i don't believe this is a good buff
@@Dat1AsianGuyYup. I find it odd that grabbing someone makes you more vulnerable than not. Makes the supposedly highest ult a liability than anything. They should instead activate the Gamma Shield during the ult ult. Not only will it serve as an invincibility for Hulk, but also be useful to ult ult tanks so you can also shield your team
Just get your movement up. She has a grapple and can run vertically on walls lol. End your own nest when you place it wrong or u know they can shoot it easily and your cooldown will be lower than letting them full kill it everytime and just reposition. Coming from a peni main🌚
Hear me out for cap how about every time he lands his dive or shield bash he gets the shield throw primary fire add more skill if he can land them allowing faster pressure instead of diving and then landing 2 melee
Honestly, that's probably the best buff they could give him without tweaking his actual dmg numbers. Hitting a direct slam should definitely count as a melee for the shield throw mechanic, kinda surprised it doesn't
I like the idea. Mainly cause if you knock people up, get the shield throw from that (like you're suggesting), then use that on knocked up enemies. It'd be a sick mechanic
CC Not more damage. The specific reason tanks in this game are bad is because their abilities do nothing but damage. Cap needs a stun or he will never be viable
It's funny that Venom is basically Ball but without Ball's skill expression, and Hulk is basically Winston but without Winston's ease of use. The roles have been reversed
Venom is much less mobile than Ball and much more of a team player. Venom’s web is only used as an escape and as an engaje toll, very similar to Winston’s jump. Ball barely spends time OUT of ball-form and grapple. Venom will spend most of the time with his team and only go to the backline with a plan in mind, in order to secure a specific kill if the opportunity arises. Ball literally only leaves the backline out of necessity. He’s a loner 95% of the time.
As a peni main. I agree with this. Although I’ll argue that if your controlling a point on most maps. It makes it very hard for the enemy too approach me
For Cap, think of him as a beefy Duelist who traded his damage for a bit of extra health. For Peni, think of her as a beefy strategist who's main job is to stay on point with her traps.
Peni is strong against flankers and dive as she provides traps and stuns that allow her to keep up with their mobility while shutting them down. I like to set my spidermine pylone where my supports like to stand so the lone spiderman or iron fist gets fucking deleted the moment they thing my boy Jeff is an easy frag. Also, stacking mines ontop of door frames is toxic and hilarious when it works.
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So if I do that: I’m gonna just pick a duelist because they’re broken and tanks are useless with how high supp healing is
I disagree. I think tanks are in a good spot right now as spacemakers. I can feel the difference between not having a tank and having one, and characters like Groot and Peni, who can singlehandedly shut down a chokepoint, are absolutely hell to fight without coordination and focus fire.
I think Hulk needs a small buff to his health and some quality of life changes like decreasing the amount of time it takes to fully charge the leap and increasing his survivability after he turns into banner.
@LFanimes333 i feel that would risk making him feel clunky, and i suggest more health as his midigation id on a long cooldown, so as a melee character, he has to rely on his mobility and health pool. They could also make his base jump higher and give you a bit more speed so you could catch upto people without commiting to a charging leap. They could also give it a hitbox that deals damage. . . I don't know, but its exciting to think about.
@@jakes.4151clap should NOT be on 2-3 CD. If anything, it should be 6.5-7 instead of 8. If they do keep it at 8, i think the clap radius should be a small arc since it’s currently damn near a bullet sized projectile
@@LFanimes333that would do nothing, he would be groot. Groot does good damage right now except he gets spam healed. Hulks problem is that his damage literally gets out healed by healers, that is not balanced. Supports are broken
As someone who loves playing Peni this is true. Ive had so many games where i was able to.cook with free reign. Others? Hard targeted the whole match with someone constantly attacking my hives.
Peni-Groot is always the way to go. Groot shields the nest. And Peni ensures dives is not possible. It counters Venom pretty good too. Because the moment Venom dives, he tanks every spider bombs and Groot blocks enemy healer's vision of Venom. Venom gets melted. It's only good on zone game modes though. It's not as effective in Payloads
@@Invisibleboy999 I said he shouldn’t be a 1v1 MACHINE. Didn’t say anything about tanks not being able to 1v1, they just shouldn’t be OP. Use your brain for once.
Cap is awesome, using mainly his sprint and his jumps you can get so much survivability. getting the abilities back from cooldown, take one enemy out and back to sprint+jump mode, super strong in payload/escort mode.
The Q for worldbreaker hulk mainly comes from locking down other hero ults like peni or iron fist just so you can bleed them out Personally I feel like his ult should be a straight up execute since it bleeds the timer of his whole ult to use it
As a Peni main who hasn’t touched comp yet I understand what you mean. I’ve had moments where a sniper destroys me. I’m trying to get better at playing cover and baiting people into my webs/mines. She’s still a fun af character to play. Also I need her venom skin it’s so sick
He really does no damage but man he is just fun to play. If you play him right, which is just sprinting everywhere and using the shield slam and dash abilities to escape when needed, you will rarely die and can rack up lots of kills. Definitely at his best when there’s a more traditional tank able to hold down the frontline
Since i started this game all these new content creators come up on my for you playlist like this guy. Every single one of them looks exactly like youd expect them to lmao
I have been playing hulk a lot and its most likely going to become my main. And a odd thing that I found that I like about him is two thing s one how fast he is, just jump everywhere while you are the hulk and when you Bruce banner throw you gamma bomb at your feet to help you escape because it knocks you back
Hulk is venom with a stun. They both have insane movement that is difficult to master, and are made to do quick dives. The difference being that hulk shuts down the allies around your main target briefly, while venom just relies on being a menace to scare off the allies of your main target. Tough to learn, but worth it. Peni is insane if used right. Her webs heal her, and if you are really good, her web jumps give her insane movement speed in your nest. However, you need to set up your nest well. Note that if you let her miniwebs touch her big web, the mines can travel to the mini webs. You can double the size of your nest. Just grab a place where you should be safe from snipers, and you should be immortal. Cap is the fastest character around. He runs around, finds a high-value sniper like punisher, iron man, hawkeye, or widow, then makes their life a living hell since their big attacks just get reflected right back.
Cap is honestly A tier just because the team up with Thor is so brutal to deal with when the players know how to play together. The amount of damage they pump out in melee is insane, and the mobility makes them impossible to deal with
Penni is good when the player is good, you have to bring them to you, which is great for defense, its also amazing holding choke points, if you have a dive tank or dps she thrives cause its either they move back or front and front leads to you while back leads to your teamates
Hard agree on hulk double Q especially since you are not invulnerable during it anymore. The only reason i ever use Q on Monster Hulk is if i can squeeze it in before ult ends, or if Hulk, fist, magik, anywone that has a good install ult that i can just wasted their ult time if i grab them
I feel cap is played better when you use his shield to block projectiles so your team can advance forward (or using it the block and sometime deflect projectile ults)
Penny is a monster on control points. and really is good at dealing with dive characters on defense. She has horrible pushing power but she has unlimited ammo and never has to reload. I think she's good for the role she fulfills but nothing more.
Wait, the slam only does 30? The damaged was so low, I thought I was missing it, but yeah Cap is so much fun. Peni is very underrated. Respect the Peni or lose.
cap is unstoppable with a good healer on your team idc, moment you hit low hp either shield bash out or just put up your shield and hope the healer gets to you in time
I don't think Cap needs a dmg buff. Cap just needs smoother shield spam. It feels nice yo spam shield on and off on Strange. Cap should have the same thing for a weaker shield
The damage cap does is similar to moon knight the closer everyone is the more he can stack. So sure he only does so much damage but hes doing that much damage to everyone in his radius point/point of view. Hes strong if team is around you otherwise hes doing everything the hard way when getting outnumbered. Hes also good at finding cloaked characters with shield throw. You throw shield at floor and if the cloaked character is nearby, the shield will bounce and hit them. Caught psylockes off guard so many times with that. As i would chase them down till they backed off.
Ya. I play peni, I had a game where this captain America would charge me any chance he got, but he wasn't going for me. He knew if he broke the spider factory nest thing, it was over for me, so that's all he did the entire game. That was a miserable game.
I picked up cap yesterday as a solo in ranked and with the help of any decent healer i was unkillable. The enemy couldnt get me off the capture point 😂.
With how many people try to constantly dive my back line, penny is a solid off tank. She can do well on defense but I do agree that beyond dealing with divers she doesn’t offer much for her team.
Hullk feels so accurate to what you say. Pubs he felt amazing but as soon as I pull him up on comp. The shield is popped within 2 secs without much ulti gained from what it says. Aswell your advise for hulk ultimate is VALID 2 autos with 1 clap is insane damage aced with ultimate.
peni is 100% at least A tier. you can lock down any objective. she is the best for zone battles, which is like 80% of this game. if you load up the enemy spawn with her tower, and mines, before the game starts, you basically start the game by deleting the enemy team, potentially multiple times because they still have to get through the traps you’ve set before even starting the match. only reason she’d be any lower is because she’s a little harder to play, considering how many cooldowns you need to keep track of, and how good you have to be at protecting the tower. once the towers gone, you’re barely even a tank.
I like Peni for when they got dmg divers like Fist or Spiderman. Just throw some mines near them at a choke point and watch the diver explode, trying to get a free kill. Still agree with tier placement, but she has a solid place in the game as the anti-diver.
In my opinion, Venom is not that good unless your team dives with you. Try jumping a luna or a mantis that is alone, you won't kill them, and also, his web sling is on a decently long cooldown so you cannot put as much pressure as ball can
I’ve been lucky enough to hop on with almost a full team a few times recently. I’m maining Thor and one of the others mains peni, fheyre a deadly combo.
Penny counter: ping Penny, when she's on yellow thing ping turret I stg one in 3 games I'm not the only one pressing down on the dpad other than friends when iron fist dives
I feel like venom needs a buff, ive been playing him since day 1 and it feels like he doesn't do as much damage as he should with his basic attack, while his healing ability and his swing allows him to either engage or retreat as needed, his basic attack feels like I'm tickling enemies, usually always ending in someone else getting the kill or the enemy retreating and since he's a slower character he ain't catching up, and while his chained attacked is useful in some scenarios it takes a few seconds to actually do damage, which in my experience, usually leads to them retreating to break it, just to come back, if anything the chain is useful when around multiple enemies, but that usually ends in death before it activates, don't get me wrong, I love venom, I just feel like compared to a lot of other characters you have to really WORK for damage, meanwhile idk what flats means, when I play banner im just smacking stuff around and freezing them
cap doesn't need damage buff he just needs his gimmicks to gimmick. His basic attack says after 3 hits his shield ricochets, it doesn't.. make it ricochet so you hit multiple enemies. And his shield throw richochets up to 4 yet I only ever see it bounce off one person in a group. Make it bounce more. Or hell give it charges and your basic hit after every 3 since you have that lil meter that builds up make it so it recharges shield throw charges. I'd argue Peni is a strong A. She regens health. Consistent damage. Area denial. And if you have your tick machine and ult you can have them travel across the map since they follow your web road.
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No. Rework him so he has utility. We don’t need another moon knight getting brain dead easy value from bounces
I've had games lost because the team (myself included) didn't focus on the pennie as much as we should have, letting her set up a foundation of webs that spans over the entire choke point is just so ridiculously strong but at that point it's you & your teams fault for letting her get that far. Last match I had ptsd everytime I saw her, targeting them & their drones everytime until she was sent back to spawn & decided to switch.
Cap is one of the most agile tanks available tbh, if you can successfully get in close with a good opening damage burst from your ground slam on their squishies and you have good targeting priority you can team wipe pretty easy Edit: Forgot to mention you need to combo the 30 damage slam with another jump immediately to establish good target lock on a support, since if they have good supports you'll be able to tell almost immediately by how fast your slam damage is responded to) Edit 2: only gonna say this while there are 2 replies currently, if you can't secure kills with Cap because of quote "30 damage not being burst damage" or "Having a kit designed to run in and run back" that's a serious skill issue
Congrats you have a character who’s entire kit is designed to make zero impact on a fight while sprinting back in to die as fast as possible Rapid ult charge delivery system for the enemy team😂
The only bait I fell for was Psylocke Classic Comic Skin
same
Be based like Max and get sucked into the game by Psylock being a mashup of Strider Hiryu and Lin Kurosawa
The bait was worth it ehh can’t complain with what was shown and delivered 😂
Gooners are ruining video games Jesus Christ just go whack it and shut up
Why Psylocke? It's kinda mid, you should've fell for Squirrel Girl.
They should remove the 1 second cooldown anytime cap raises his shield that shit is so stupid
And he should be able to block in air on super jumps. That's stupid too
the shield throw should also be a lot better imo either more damage or shorter cooldown, same with Thors hammer throw imo
@@_endortv_i actually think his shield is fine i get so many finishing blows with it. The ability it has to ricochet so u can just throw it at a wall or the ground near a target is great
Bro that shit feels so clunky lol.
The one thing I genuinely hate about cap's design (besides just raw damage numbers and stuff)
@@leroyroberts8112frrr I always jump up into the air but then lose almost my entire health bar because I think that I can hold up my shield in the air.
The key to Peni is playing cover. If you can set your nest up behind cover, while still having enough to protect you while moving in the radius, you can build a nice little base of operations.
Place a couple of mines underneath you to counter dives, then just keep lobing em at the enemy as they get off cooldown. You'd be suprised at the amount of extra damage you can do to people who just don't shoot them.
When using her ult, prio strategists and enemies that are 1. Also understand that her ult is great for area denial/intimidation pushes, even if you don't eliminate anyone. Her melee on ult knock enemies slightly back and up, so account for that when stacking swings on a single target.
She can be very strong for both attacking and defending, provided you set your nest in places that give both agressive and defensive benefits (clear sightlines with ample cover to slip behind).
Thank you for coming to my ted talk.
Forgot to mention, you can use her web pull on convoys to get ahead to defendable positions. Use this to set up a beachhead with your nest to give your team some breathing room.
You can extend the area of effect way around corners by adding webs too. U can use web net to do this. Took me way to long to realize this lol. The area of effect with her tower when extended is wild.
Also, the drones made by Peni's (heh) nest aren't confined to her nest. They're confined to her webs. So you can place webs around corners for her drones to follow. Then, when you ult and start laying a trail of webs, the drones can follow that.
Plus isnt her stun on like a 4 sec cool down?
I like that, should you be in an emergency, you can use your entangle ability and the swing ability on the floor below you to create a back up mini empowerment zone. It can be the difference in trades.
He is just literally that markipiler punch meme
Cap is the embodiment of "either you die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become a villain"
Part of Cap's origin story (MCU) is him getting beat up in an alley. Now he is beating up people who got lost in an alley way (out of positions target)
My favorite is running thor with cap and just throwing hands with the entire enemy team just all melee and running them down.
@@supersoaker317 Love that team up.
@@JABRIEL251 it is so much fun playing cap with thor and like an iron fist and Magick with mantis and Luna snow it is so much fun
Mr. I can do this all day
You over explained it
If you can get over Strange's slow movement speed hes a blast. Alternating between primary fire and melee means he just does SO much dmg.
He's clunky but I love it
As a rein main his shield sucks so badly
@ItsRyanHello and probably like how you play rein, you're using it wrong. If you use cover properly and also use your cloak you really shouldn't need more sustain especially when you are playing a tank that also happens to be ranged
@zacharyjackson1829 Like 2 or 3 hawkeye arrows or 1 single burst from punisher destroys his shield it sucks so bad lmao
and if it had much more health ppl would complain its too tanky, its fine the way it is, like others have said you also xan actually hit ppl from distance so you can play around cover more
@@ItsRyanHello
The way hulks ult ult is meant to be used is just before it runs out as it plays the full animation whilst keeping all the ult hp. So it can extend your ult and keep one of them stunned for like 3 seconds
My issue with the ult is that you're just vulnerable to everyone even the person you grabbed. I don't think it's good but I want invinciblity so it's worth the value or give reason to use the grab but again i don't believe this is a good buff
@@Dat1AsianGuyYup. I find it odd that grabbing someone makes you more vulnerable than not. Makes the supposedly highest ult a liability than anything.
They should instead activate the Gamma Shield during the ult ult. Not only will it serve as an invincibility for Hulk, but also be useful to ult ult tanks so you can also shield your team
Peni plays like an actual spider, set up a web and wait for prey to fall into the trap
The Peni section is so real, not even shooting me all the enemy has to do is shoot my spider nest and Im dead 😂😂😂
Just get your movement up. She has a grapple and can run vertically on walls lol. End your own nest when you place it wrong or u know they can shoot it easily and your cooldown will be lower than letting them full kill it everytime and just reposition. Coming from a peni main🌚
I love Peni. If your team is competent, the enemies can't focus fire you. 😊❤
Hulk has to work, to work for working.
Hear me out for cap how about every time he lands his dive or shield bash he gets the shield throw primary fire add more skill if he can land them allowing faster pressure instead of diving and then landing 2 melee
Honestly, that's probably the best buff they could give him without tweaking his actual dmg numbers. Hitting a direct slam should definitely count as a melee for the shield throw mechanic, kinda surprised it doesn't
I like the idea. Mainly cause if you knock people up, get the shield throw from that (like you're suggesting), then use that on knocked up enemies.
It'd be a sick mechanic
Great idea!!!
CC
Not more damage. The specific reason tanks in this game are bad is because their abilities do nothing but damage.
Cap needs a stun or he will never be viable
It's funny that Venom is basically Ball but without Ball's skill expression, and Hulk is basically Winston but without Winston's ease of use. The roles have been reversed
Venom is much less mobile than Ball and much more of a team player.
Venom’s web is only used as an escape and as an engaje toll, very similar to Winston’s jump.
Ball barely spends time OUT of ball-form and grapple.
Venom will spend most of the time with his team and only go to the backline with a plan in mind, in order to secure a specific kill if the opportunity arises.
Ball literally only leaves the backline out of necessity. He’s a loner 95% of the time.
@@LFanimes333this
@@LFanimes333who gafs man it’s a funny comment 😂 venom at first glance feels and plays similar to ball
@@rfewer
I’m a Ball main and a Venom main.
So I care.
@@rfewerI care. It was an insightful comparison and I feel like I better understand both heroes now.
As a peni main. I agree with this. Although I’ll argue that if your controlling a point on most maps. It makes it very hard for the enemy too approach me
For Cap, think of him as a beefy Duelist who traded his damage for a bit of extra health.
For Peni, think of her as a beefy strategist who's main job is to stay on point with her traps.
Peni is strong against flankers and dive as she provides traps and stuns that allow her to keep up with their mobility while shutting them down. I like to set my spidermine pylone where my supports like to stand so the lone spiderman or iron fist gets fucking deleted the moment they thing my boy Jeff is an easy frag.
Also, stacking mines ontop of door frames is toxic and hilarious when it works.
So if I do that: I’m gonna just pick a duelist because they’re broken and tanks are useless with how high supp healing is
I disagree. I think tanks are in a good spot right now as spacemakers. I can feel the difference between not having a tank and having one, and characters like Groot and Peni, who can singlehandedly shut down a chokepoint, are absolutely hell to fight without coordination and focus fire.
I think you could just make it so his shield actually reflected stuff exactly where you are aiming. Also getting rid of the cooldown on his shield.
@@GiRR007 They actually do, it's just difficult cause the shield actually has curves so U gotta make sure their bullets hit the center.
Cap is crazy when the Thor team up is present otherwise he’s ok
I think Hulk needs a small buff to his health and some quality of life changes like decreasing the amount of time it takes to fully charge the leap and increasing his survivability after he turns into banner.
Hulk needs a much slower attack rate and much higher damage.
And also way more HP.
That’s how you fix the character.
@LFanimes333 i feel that would risk making him feel clunky, and i suggest more health as his midigation id on a long cooldown, so as a melee character, he has to rely on his mobility and health pool. They could also make his base jump higher and give you a bit more speed so you could catch upto people without commiting to a charging leap. They could also give it a hitbox that deals damage. . . I don't know, but its exciting to think about.
Hulk should get bonus movement speed after leaping and his clap should be on like a 2-3 CD max.
@@jakes.4151clap should NOT be on 2-3 CD. If anything, it should be 6.5-7 instead of 8. If they do keep it at 8, i think the clap radius should be a small arc since it’s currently damn near a bullet sized projectile
@@LFanimes333that would do nothing, he would be groot. Groot does good damage right now except he gets spam healed. Hulks problem is that his damage literally gets out healed by healers, that is not balanced. Supports are broken
As someone who loves playing Peni this is true. Ive had so many games where i was able to.cook with free reign. Others? Hard targeted the whole match with someone constantly attacking my hives.
I always love how you understand the games you play, like really understand it
Cap and venom for ultra fast paced, offensive plays, penny for saying “not today try again later.”
Peni-Groot is always the way to go.
Groot shields the nest.
And Peni ensures dives is not possible.
It counters Venom pretty good too. Because the moment Venom dives, he tanks every spider bombs and Groot blocks enemy healer's vision of Venom. Venom gets melted.
It's only good on zone game modes though. It's not as effective in Payloads
Hulk is for countering dive with aoe bubbles and keeping people stunned
"I love me some cap" has a nice double meaning.
Cap's bash and shield throw need shorter cooldowns and higher damage. He should be a combo character.
He’s supposed to be a tank, not a 1v1 machine.
@@Brrxdleyso tanks cant be good at 1v1 now?
@@Invisibleboy999 I said he shouldn’t be a 1v1 MACHINE. Didn’t say anything about tanks not being able to 1v1, they just shouldn’t be OP. Use your brain for once.
@@Brrxdley “he’s supposed to be a tank not a 1v1 machine” TF ELSE WAS I GONNA THINK WHEN READING THIS USE UR DAMN BRAIN 😭
@@Brrxdley Bros kit is quite literally bulit for it. They could nerf his hp if he becomes to OP.
Hulk team up makes strange do crazy damage
Cap is awesome, using mainly his sprint and his jumps you can get so much survivability. getting the abilities back from cooldown, take one enemy out and back to sprint+jump mode, super strong in payload/escort mode.
The Q for worldbreaker hulk mainly comes from locking down other hero ults like peni or iron fist just so you can bleed them out
Personally I feel like his ult should be a straight up execute since it bleeds the timer of his whole ult to use it
Straight up lol all these captain America’s keep on rushing me out of nowhere
As a Peni main who hasn’t touched comp yet I understand what you mean. I’ve had moments where a sniper destroys me. I’m trying to get better at playing cover and baiting people into my webs/mines. She’s still a fun af character to play. Also I need her venom skin it’s so sick
You on a PS5 by chance?
30 DAMAGE? Oh poor cap
He really does no damage but man he is just fun to play. If you play him right, which is just sprinting everywhere and using the shield slam and dash abilities to escape when needed, you will rarely die and can rack up lots of kills. Definitely at his best when there’s a more traditional tank able to hold down the frontline
Since i started this game all these new content creators come up on my for you playlist like this guy. Every single one of them looks exactly like youd expect them to lmao
I have been playing hulk a lot and its most likely going to become my main. And a odd thing that I found that I like about him is two thing s one how fast he is, just jump everywhere while you are the hulk and when you Bruce banner throw you gamma bomb at your feet to help you escape because it knocks you back
Playing Captain America: "Find someone in a dark alley an 1v1 on them."
Flats> jay3 tier list
true
Hulk is venom with a stun. They both have insane movement that is difficult to master, and are made to do quick dives. The difference being that hulk shuts down the allies around your main target briefly, while venom just relies on being a menace to scare off the allies of your main target. Tough to learn, but worth it.
Peni is insane if used right. Her webs heal her, and if you are really good, her web jumps give her insane movement speed in your nest. However, you need to set up your nest well. Note that if you let her miniwebs touch her big web, the mines can travel to the mini webs. You can double the size of your nest. Just grab a place where you should be safe from snipers, and you should be immortal.
Cap is the fastest character around. He runs around, finds a high-value sniper like punisher, iron man, hawkeye, or widow, then makes their life a living hell since their big attacks just get reflected right back.
The irony of Caps strategy being to find someone in a dark alley is so funny for so many reasons! 😂
Starlord is underrated definitely my favorite character
I love Penny, she absolutely craps on black panther and iron fist when they try to sneak up on supports.
Cap is honestly A tier just because the team up with Thor is so brutal to deal with when the players know how to play together. The amount of damage they pump out in melee is insane, and the mobility makes them impossible to deal with
Penni is good when the player is good, you have to bring them to you, which is great for defense, its also amazing holding choke points, if you have a dive tank or dps she thrives cause its either they move back or front and front leads to you while back leads to your teamates
Dr Flats isn't real, he can't hurt you.
Dr Flats:
Hard agree on hulk double Q especially since you are not invulnerable during it anymore. The only reason i ever use Q on Monster Hulk is if i can squeeze it in before ult ends, or if Hulk, fist, magik, anywone that has a good install ult that i can just wasted their ult time if i grab them
I play psylocke and love fighting Penny because OF THE SOUNDS MAN THEY ARE SOOO NICE
Strange can put up a magical shield any time but cap has to wait 1 second to lift a paper weight on his wrist
I feel cap is played better when you use his shield to block projectiles so your team can advance forward (or using it the block and sometime deflect projectile ults)
Peni is so much fun when they let me do my thing. The second my web generator is gone j feel like a sitting duck
This is what happened when I was Parker. Whenever Wanda uses her ult, I would use the web on her, and it would just stop her
Ngl I've learned to target the hell out of peeps with stun as a dive character because if I don't I'll get bullied every dive
As a diamond tank main in ow1 I'm glad I gravitated to flats so tier tank pick
That last part is FACTS. Im using her to climb rn.
Penny is a monster on control points. and really is good at dealing with dive characters on defense. She has horrible pushing power but she has unlimited ammo and never has to reload. I think she's good for the role she fulfills but nothing more.
As a certified hulk main. Yeah.
Wait, the slam only does 30? The damaged was so low, I thought I was missing it, but yeah Cap is so much fun. Peni is very underrated. Respect the Peni or lose.
cap is unstoppable with a good healer on your team idc, moment you hit low hp either shield bash out or just put up your shield and hope the healer gets to you in time
I don't think Cap needs a dmg buff.
Cap just needs smoother shield spam.
It feels nice yo spam shield on and off on Strange. Cap should have the same thing for a weaker shield
Cap is amazing if you pair him with Thor because the C ability you get with him goes crazy
Cap vs punisher shot gun is like cutting butter man
hulk on c lmaoooo
The irony of Cap beating people up in allyways.
The damage cap does is similar to moon knight the closer everyone is the more he can stack. So sure he only does so much damage but hes doing that much damage to everyone in his radius point/point of view. Hes strong if team is around you otherwise hes doing everything the hard way when getting outnumbered. Hes also good at finding cloaked characters with shield throw. You throw shield at floor and if the cloaked character is nearby, the shield will bounce and hit them. Caught psylockes off guard so many times with that. As i would chase them down till they backed off.
I’ve found double Q to be good on hulk when you kill one healer and want to stop the other from doing so.
Ya. I play peni, I had a game where this captain America would charge me any chance he got, but he wasn't going for me. He knew if he broke the spider factory nest thing, it was over for me, so that's all he did the entire game. That was a miserable game.
I usually put some mines around the nest to combat melee characters from destroying it
I think hulk and thor need a shield/overheal move
I picked up cap yesterday as a solo in ranked and with the help of any decent healer i was unkillable. The enemy couldnt get me off the capture point 😂.
how is bro already a pro at this is came out last week😂😂
hulk isn't a tank he is a heavy dps. he goes in and causes such a hinderance that focus needs to be shifted to him.
The only thing cap needs is slightly more damage on his slam and shield bash and if they do that they should remove a little bit of his max health.
With how many people try to constantly dive my back line, penny is a solid off tank. She can do well on defense but I do agree that beyond dealing with divers she doesn’t offer much for her team.
Finding someone Inna dark alley and one v one them. I have never heard words so perfect before now as a Cap player
Hullk feels so accurate to what you say. Pubs he felt amazing but as soon as I pull him up on comp. The shield is popped within 2 secs without much ulti gained from what it says. Aswell your advise for hulk ultimate is VALID 2 autos with 1 clap is insane damage aced with ultimate.
Thor buff goes kinda crazy tho
peni is 100% at least A tier. you can lock down any objective. she is the best for zone battles, which is like 80% of this game. if you load up the enemy spawn with her tower, and mines, before the game starts, you basically start the game by deleting the enemy team, potentially multiple times because they still have to get through the traps you’ve set before even starting the match.
only reason she’d be any lower is because she’s a little harder to play, considering how many cooldowns you need to keep track of, and how good you have to be at protecting the tower. once the towers gone, you’re barely even a tank.
W tier list, strange is my main from day 1 and my group runs 1 tank 3 dps 2 healers.
I need to find it but i have a rare clip of taking out an IM with Caps jumping slam lol
Penni is so good against the melee heros
I will say i wasnt really there for ow1 but peni feels like how an off tank is described
I like Peni for when they got dmg divers like Fist or Spiderman. Just throw some mines near them at a choke point and watch the diver explode, trying to get a free kill. Still agree with tier placement, but she has a solid place in the game as the anti-diver.
His shield should reset on direct hit.
But Peni main. Absolutely love The character and playstyle.
In my opinion, Venom is not that good unless your team dives with you. Try jumping a luna or a mantis that is alone, you won't kill them, and also, his web sling is on a decently long cooldown so you cannot put as much pressure as ball can
i always wondered why no one was dying to my cap slam or charge.
Insert *ZBRA*
I’ve been lucky enough to hop on with almost a full team a few times recently. I’m maining Thor and one of the others mains peni, fheyre a deadly combo.
Penny counter: ping Penny, when she's on yellow thing ping turret I stg one in 3 games I'm not the only one pressing down on the dpad other than friends when iron fist dives
My last game the captain hard carried the enemy team by doing no damage but just blocking and pushing us back to spawn
Captain B tier? Well that’s just how I know I stumbled into the wrong place. I guess there are a lot of people who don’t know how to play him
Dr Strange is so good
I feel like venom needs a buff, ive been playing him since day 1 and it feels like he doesn't do as much damage as he should with his basic attack, while his healing ability and his swing allows him to either engage or retreat as needed, his basic attack feels like I'm tickling enemies, usually always ending in someone else getting the kill or the enemy retreating and since he's a slower character he ain't catching up, and while his chained attacked is useful in some scenarios it takes a few seconds to actually do damage, which in my experience, usually leads to them retreating to break it, just to come back, if anything the chain is useful when around multiple enemies, but that usually ends in death before it activates, don't get me wrong, I love venom, I just feel like compared to a lot of other characters you have to really WORK for damage, meanwhile idk what flats means, when I play banner im just smacking stuff around and freezing them
Hulk is a terrible tank, just wanted to throw that out there and I stand by it
Peni IS the definition of point defense but if there hard targeted (as she should be as a TANK) she melts
Only use the double Q to cancel an ult like strange or Bucky or similarly annoying, don’t do it just for damage
Do it for CC. Taking a healer out of the fight is a free win if your team is competent
No 1 player in the world right now is a Hulk player, just sayyin
But double q touch of death combos are so fun on hulkkkk😅
As Peni player it is true and have experienced it. 😔👍
Will keep playing her tho because she is fun.
Jeff is simply number 1
cap doesn't need damage buff he just needs his gimmicks to gimmick. His basic attack says after 3 hits his shield ricochets, it doesn't.. make it ricochet so you hit multiple enemies. And his shield throw richochets up to 4 yet I only ever see it bounce off one person in a group. Make it bounce more. Or hell give it charges and your basic hit after every 3 since you have that lil meter that builds up make it so it recharges shield throw charges.
I'd argue Peni is a strong A. She regens health. Consistent damage. Area denial. And if you have your tick machine and ult you can have them travel across the map since they follow your web road.
No. Rework him so he has utility. We don’t need another moon knight getting brain dead easy value from bounces
I've had games lost because the team (myself included) didn't focus on the pennie as much as we should have, letting her set up a foundation of webs that spans over the entire choke point is just so ridiculously strong but at that point it's you & your teams fault for letting her get that far.
Last match I had ptsd everytime I saw her, targeting them & their drones everytime until she was sent back to spawn & decided to switch.
Cap is one of the most agile tanks available tbh, if you can successfully get in close with a good opening damage burst from your ground slam on their squishies and you have good targeting priority you can team wipe pretty easy
Edit: Forgot to mention you need to combo the 30 damage slam with another jump immediately to establish good target lock on a support, since if they have good supports you'll be able to tell almost immediately by how fast your slam damage is responded to)
Edit 2: only gonna say this while there are 2 replies currently, if you can't secure kills with Cap because of quote "30 damage not being burst damage" or "Having a kit designed to run in and run back" that's a serious skill issue
30 damage is not burst damage
Congrats you have a character who’s entire kit is designed to make zero impact on a fight while sprinting back in to die as fast as possible
Rapid ult charge delivery system for the enemy team😂
No you play cap by aggro... He's lore accurate 😂
The only bait I see is that this game will replace Overwatch