Historian Explains What We’re Missing About White Supremacy | The Mehdi Hasan Show
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2021
- Historian Kathleen Belew says January 6 is just one thread in a long string of violent attacks by a white supremacist movement in the U.S.
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I’m 71 and white. My mother warned me when I was 12 to be wary of the John Birch Society (Koch family). Her prescience to this day amazes me.
I was 17 when I learned everything about the John Birch Society because one of classmates was a member, as were her parents. Her mother, a doctor, came to the school to confront me about the arguments (factual) I used to debunk her daughter's insane beliefs. The mother began her diatribe against me with "We in the inner circle know..." I responded with "We in the outer circle know that you're nuts."
That was in 1963 when Barry Goldwater was running for President after JFK was assassinated. Also a very bad time in America which got worse with the assassinations of MLK, RFK, Malcolm X, the destruction of the Black Panthers, and the murder of the Kent State students. The ONLY reason that Nixon resigned and that his AG and others went to jail, was that the Republican Party (though always loathsome in my eyes since the age of 13 in spite of my parents being members) at least respected the Constitution and the Rule of Law in the final analysis, as did Nixon. Nixon resigned because he knew the Republicans in Congress would convict him. None of that is presently extant in the United States at present. As horrible and frightening as those years were, where we are now is exponentially worse. Add the denial of climate change that's been going on since the 60's by Republicans in bed with fossil fuel and chemical companies, and it's not just the United States in trouble, The human race is sleep walking to extinction.
@@elenalatici9568 also not a coincidence that the people assassinated, the Kennedys, Martin Luther King, Malcom x, the Black Panthers were hated by the republican party. They (Republicans) have always been dangerous, callous and in service of corporations to the detriment of environment, education and humanity.
That is a funny coincidence Mauritius! I hadn't thought about that group for so long or ever I'm sure uttered the name "John Birch Society" until yesterday, and I hadn't heard the name itself since 1990. It came about when my daughter who is 30 (I'm 51) who is expected her first child told me her boyfriend and his family won't allow her to get vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2 because they have been convinced by American television (yes, Faux News is even wrecking lives outside of the US) that it is dangerous for the baby. I won't usually involve myself in my daughter's life, but this was a great concern to me. We're Indigenous and sort of, well, she is in a precarious sort of place both metaphorically and physically where it is extra hard to stand up for herself against, and I mean this only as a descriptor, but a family of know-nothing rednecks in rural Alberta as a Lakota woman.
I explained to her what I have read about expectant (or expecting? I have bad grammar, my apologies) mothers being considered highest risk group, with chances of miscarriage, still birth, or serious lifelong lung damage in newborns that would necessitate being on a ventilator and bed-ridden entire lives! But she is too scared to upset these overbearing people when it is her body, and her child more than her partner's at least until it comes out of her in my mind. I'm just sick about it, and she is a waitress at two different bars in Edmonton which is I believe right now the biggest per capita place for Delta variant Covid in all of the Western hemisphere and her profession is the most at-risk of all jobs, so just a perfect confluence of risk and danger.
I am taking too long to close the circle here, my apologies. It's just that I told her, and she knew of course already but I refreshed her memory, that her great-uncle who was younger than me, born in 1973, my daughter's great-grandmother, he had to spend until he was 14 years old his life in an iron-lung, until 1987 (!) because he got polio long after no one should have been getting polio, because Great-grandma Bea was given a John Birch tract that stated that the polio vaccine was a Soviet plot to lower the collective IQs of the American people so they would be easy to conquer and then control in a planned invasion of North America. This always really puzzled me, why would these libertarian fear-mongered be against vaccines when not using them would only hurt the Americans they purported to love.
Now I finally understand, eh? It is and always has been about using fear to control people. My late wife lived very traditional and was a Knowledge-Keeper, much more astute than me (I admit I have a thesaurus right beside me as I try to sound smarter than I am, ahhahaha). She pointed out a theory of hers that was hard to argue with as in our culture even things like romantic love are very much feelings plus choices together, with choice being just as critical a component of love as the feelings part. But with settler culture (no offense meant, that's just what we call it, matter-of-factly it is the culture of the settlers) it seems everything is feelings, feelings, feelings exclusive, all but divorced from choice. It's in your films, your music, your magazine, television, all your art, just pure feelings, pure id in Freudian terms.
Kimimela's theory was that this was in no way an accident in European development, and as I've gotten older (and I hope a bit wiser, but not sure on that one, heh), that with political systems that are very highly centralized like European feudalism there is a real advantage in people being all id, all feelings, as highly emotional people are very much easier to control, and fear is one of the most powerful of emotions. So a Tucker Carlson is very much like a modern day General Edwin Walker with his irrationality by design. Only a Europe or a culture highly influenced by European colonialism could use emotion so effectively in the form of irrational patriotism to convince millions of men to go out and slaughter each other over nothing at all but money, as in the First World War. These ultra rich people like the Kochs, DeVoses, Duponts, the new money tech billionaires, they have no scruples, or any reluctance in using the most bizarre things to inflict their Chaos Capitalism on folks if that means getting the GOP to hold power and keep them from paying a fair amount of taxes like during the biggest and longest extended boom time in US history, from 1945 to 1975, which unsurprisingly (to me at least) is when labour participation and real wages tracked with productivity gains aka GDP growth and the wealthy had an extremely high top bracket marginal tax rate as they still should.
Whenever I hear one of these libertarian types that dress up greed as a political philosophy start spout off Adam Smith I quickly bring up how in Wealth of Nations he argued that *only* the very wealthy pay taxes to fund universal health care and education (yes, the man who coined the invisible hand of the market was no free-marketeer when it came to taxation or to macroeconomic theory). I never get sick of the look on the faces of the little twerps fresh out of getting a B.Admin or B.Sci. in Economics when this dumb Indian that might have had to leave school to start working at 16 but knows the value of a library card present them with something from their very favourite book to quote but that none of them have ever actually gotten around to reading, heheh, ahhh. I shouldn't be mean. But, oh man, I wrote too much here, but when you mentioned John Birch that just gave me chills because of my wife's Uncle Kelly that died from complication of having polio in the mid-90s all from this pamphlet her Grandma Bea got from some White person who she made the mistake of trusting. History is repeating it feels like with my own daughter who has a B.Sci. herself and should know better but again White people ordering her around that think they know everything because they trust this clown from Faux News..the more things change...
@@aimformyheadplease thesaurus my backside. That was eloquent! I don't think I've heard it said better any where any time. I wish everyone could read your comment. You are a Warrior. ♥
I am a JOHN BIRCHER YOU FILTHY COMMUNIST
Belew needs to get MUCH more coverage on the airwaves. I would LOVE to hear her in a deep dive 1-hour interview segment so she could flesh out details she discussed.
Same!
Go on Fox please...or NPR
@@phriedokra6158 Fox wouldn't let her talk in the rare chance they even let her show up. NPR, though, would be a fantastic platform! A Terry Gross interview would be incredible as always, for one.
@@phriedokra6158 Commonwealth Club of California does some good work with such authors, as does Amanpour and Company.
@@phriedokra6158
FOX would never have her on. But it would be quite the event to have her debate Tucker or Hannity. However it would require a lie alarm bell of some kind, since neither Tucker or Hannity ever have much in the way of facts or truth in any of their rants.
*Any judge not allowing the use of the word "victim" referring to two men that were shot dead should be removed from the bench immediately.*
As a knee jerk reaction I agree with you but Legal Eagle on YT made a good point with that the trial was about determining if the shooting had been self-defence or not. Calling the people killed "victims" is technically determining the outcome in advance, since if the shooting was deemed to be self-defence they would not have been victims. So it is a bit of a technicality.
A better way in that moment would have been to use their names which would have had the additional effect of humanising them in the eyes of the jury. 🤷♀️
The whole outcome of the trial was disappointing to the wide audience of thinking and empathetic people but seemed to be pretty much in line with Wisconsin law.
Which probably means Wisconsin law has to be adressed and changed, because WTAF.
@@lemonielala3080 I was going to say the same. The case was about determining their victim status. The judge was hamstrung on that.
Non compas mentos
And you got your law degree from where, exactly?
@@purplenights1 ... I'll have you know I am charter member of the esteemed law firm Dewey, Cheatum & Howe!
Having said this, I believe Kyle should also be able to be described as a victim. Depending on perspective, they could all be viewed as "victims."
Mo Brooks wore body armour on January 6 , do you think he knew something was going down ?
Oh no, but his staff might have ..... And if so I'm sure he was proud of them 😁
Yes
Trump was wearing body armor, too.
.....no, wait. He's just fat.
@@mojomusica.0169 ... and "Attends" under those baggy trousers ...
@@mojomusica.0169 would a bullet bounce off the lard?
I wonder why no one ever dares to mention white evangelicals.
Because plenty of people do and the KKK has a lot of influence but it's minimal when it comes to the whole picture here, but if you're talking about white evangelicals and their toxic historical influence on the culture as a whole, that's probably more the area of a pshycologist or anthropologist than a historian's.
Aotearoa Whanau, I refer to and blame "evangelicals" a lot, but I assume that "white," the worst part, is a given. As a Bible Belter, I'm familiar with the breed.
White evangelicals and white supremacists are terms that describe more or less the same group of people in my view.
@@jas1049
Can you name an example of black supremacists? Asian supremacists? Just attacking white people at every turn makes you a racist yourself.
Rev. William J. Barber of the Poor People's Campaign consistently mentions white evangelicals as one of the "evils" this country is facing under the auspicious of "Christian Nationalism". He's been interviewed a ton. The problem is that we Democrats, liberals, progressives, etc. tend not to be comfortable in directly facing issues of the spirit. We don't call evil, evil when we see it until it's already destroyed us. Charles Blow of the NYT published a piece back in late 2019 or early 2020 about Trump, his malevolence, and the corruption of his followers titled An Opera of Demons. I think he was on point.
Maybe some of Mo Brooks' staff - that he just threw under the bus - might flip on him and decide to have a chat with the insurrection investigation. One can only hope.
True!
That would be great
Here's hoping.
Keep turning the screw....It could happen..
The guy that went to trumps rally on 6 January 2021 wearing a bullet proof vest? He wasn't expecting violence that day
The judge on the Kyle Rittenhouse' case needs to be removed, investigated AND held accountable for anything discovered.
And as a ½ White ½ Native American myself Tucker Carlson can take his own advice and go back where his colonizer ancestors are from.
Native Americans are really the only race i feel got the bum deal here
every other one is doing better you can speak of slavery but white people where enslaved too at the time the civil war ended here there were still well over a million white slaves in the old Moorish kingdoms black people had slaves it was just a common practice if anything the west worked to make it illegal
American history is something that everyone benefits from today even though that wasn't always the case except the native Americans
Absolutely. Don't think it will be a fair trial
@@joejacko1587 White slaves in old Moorish kingdoms in 1865? Do go on. Specifics and sources, please.
You are 1/2 white. Always remember that. Your Native side hates you for that; and you hate yourself which is where your racism comes from.
Tell me: which side introduced "the wheel" to the other? (Hint: Not the Native Anericans).
So, you should be thankful for your white ancestors who showed your Native American ancestors that Revolutionary concept they had since the 5th century BC
@@joejacko1587
I don't feel bad at all for the Native Anericans.
They had many opportunities to attack and conquer the whites but chose to sell Manhattan island for string (oopppssss...).
Plus, some of their cultures ripped out the hearts of their enemies, while the others scalped them.
They put up a good fight and lost. Back on the day you became friends with the person you fought with.
We've always known that they were around. The only difference is they are more open to being mainstream as they believe they found a voice and an essential leader (a big one at that) in the previous occupant of the White House.
I agree with what you're saying, but I would refer to that person, as Insurrectionist Zero, aka, The Incontinent One, or just that Old Fart who squatted in the White House for 4 years
@@Frenchblue8 good point! Certainly wasn't fit to reside.
That part.
@@ronaldr.236 Exactly. Fit would be one of the last words I would ever use to describe Insurrectionist Zero~unless you're talking on the subjects of one size fits all orange jumpsuits of course 🤣😇
yup he united the wrong type of people.
Us Native Americans know all about replacement by immigrants.
💯 yes y'all do‼️ They have some nerve.
@@bobbysherdan3226 big words from someone hiding behind an 11 day old throw away account.
Edit: the comment I replied to that's gone now was along the lines that the Native Americans weren't replaced but conquered. Figured some would want to know the context.
Thank you for not being forgotten!
I have to agree. The Native Americans immigrated here from Asia and replaced those who were already living here.
Komenisai... big words? Okay dummy lol... You should know us right-wingers get our accounts deleted constantly.... that's the reason most of us have accounts that are newer... I'm sure this account will get deleted by UA-cam soon and I'll have to make another one... It's not rocket science genius
This IS who we are. It would be one thing if we as a nation were running away from our troubled history as fast as our legs could move us. But we're not. The Confederates lost the Civil War and they're still flying their flags.
You mean we’re nuts?
@@JDavidHopkins 🤭🤣🤣 Pretty much. Thx for the laugh. 👍🏼
This is who they are; we are the eternal resistance. As societies evolve there has been this struggle. The Spiral Dynamics model examines the psychological development of humanity with clarity.
Decades of pandering to these fascists with "participation trophies" in public parks didn't help.
I agree. This is exactly who “We the People” are. I used to be on another side. From birth and my Christian indoctrination upbringing years till 2008 - 2016 as I slowly evolved to somewhere closer to the middle. But, as hard as it is, unless We admit it, We won’t change much. Good point Bear.
This white supremacy she says, is coming to the forefront, I respectfully say that it was there, it has always been a central part of American politics, except that now they are saying the quiet part outloud. Thanks Mehdi, love your show.
We are all a part of it now, putting money on to was a rich person's idea though...
I'd say that it has been THE central issue of American politics, dating back to even before revolution. I have no idea how Americans are going to get rid of it, if after 250 years it's still the most important and dangerous issue.
@@Argumemnon
"All men are created equal"...show me where it says only white men are created equal.
Exactly
@@Argumemnon Yup. So true,cuz the indigenous was in their cross hires,but they failed . Now they're fall at their own demise.
She was fantastic. In today’s world, it’s good to know the differences between “white-power, -nationalism, or -supremacy,” instead of using the terms interchangeably.
…ohhh my gosh, how far has our country fallen that we need to understand the precise differences between these awful terms😣🤢
"Fallen" would imply that we were 'higher' than this to start with. For a nation built on slave labor on the lands of a genocidally exterminated people, I don't think that really fits.
@@yojishinkawa378 good point
White nationalism is victim first, supreme second, whereas white supremacy is supreme first, victim second. WNists, disagree with CRT, not because it is racist (which it is), but they disagree with the order of victim hierarchy in which it represents.
@@apextroll how is CRT racist exactly
@@guesswhoscomingtoyoutube Because it is basically casting people into victim hierarchies and the total opposite of "judging people by the content of your character". This thought came out of black academia in the 70's and 80's where people like Frances Cress Welsing taught that black people can't be racist since they hold no power.
Get these lawmakers under oath without disclosing the evidence. See if they tell the truth under oath.
But there’s already tons of evidence out in the open
@@chloekey8043 put them under oath.
they are all lying. they always skip around the answer.
no oath has ever stopped these sociopaths from lying.
It is hilarious when Americans say - "This is not who we are". I think pretty much the entire world, including you, knows that most are exactly that.
Perhaps many, many but not most or TFG would still be in office.
Sad and very true. It reveals a complete lack of societal awareness and/or is pathological denial or out right deception. Not all Americans are like that, but as a whole I'd say enough are to overshadow those who are not.
"Most" is excessive but an excusable perspective.
Not most, but around 30-40%. We outnumber them, but outbreeding, outvoting, and outliving them will require more help from Father Time. 😔
@renideo Extremely well said.
Officer Fannon, you are one of many heros among all these "Traitors" Those who see it any other way are also "Traitors" None of us will realize what we have lost until we truly lose it. Then it will be too late. Sooner or later, we will have to rise against the traitors. I'm not preaching violence, just that something has to change.
exactly! I think part of the problem is that we don't know how to fight right wing extremism or how many fail to realize how serious it is
FANONE IS A COWARD . SPREAD THE WORD.
@@mikebrigs1218 No. He is a democrat...that is someone who supports democracy...apparently unlike you.
Michael Fanone is a Hero. He was doing the right thing, like a man, unlike those sniveling weasels oozing all over our Capitol.
@@mikebrigs1218 Hmmmmm
I don't think we need a guide, I think it is quite apparent to be honest. It's sickening, and I live in a red state that embraces it fully. Since Trump they are more outspoken and open to letting their supremacy fly proud, it's disgusting!
Your sickening
@@jordanclark1700 Not as much as your illiteracy. It's "you're".
I'm Irish. To be blunt....racism is as much a defining characteristic of America as any other. Obviously not all Americans, but internationally and in the modern era it is as emblematic of the USA overall as the Apollo program, etc. And as with all white supremacists, once you see and hear them, you realise the 'superior race' is in fact terrified, deeply ignorant and would not be able to endure the suffering they have dealt out to non-whites. Wretched people.
White Supremacy - not wanting the country to turn into a Socialist sewer with a race obsession
SHOW US ON THE DOLL SKIPPY EXACTLY WHERE TRUMP TOUCHED YOUR PRONOUN???
Wow! Ms Belew hit it dead on. Lots of factors! These factors have come together in a relatively short period of time to gain a large voice and a central figurehead
Yup. He's not their creator, he's their savior. The 'chosen one' come to save 'the culture'.
Speaks volumes the core of his base is white evangelicals as well.
Lots of factors such as the all out assault on our culture, borders, heritage, our constitution and our currency.
@@outermarker5801
So your saying people don't have THE RIGHT to oppose illegal immigration? They don't have THE RIGHT to oppose abortion? THE RIGHT to speak their mind on the internet without being banned?
If that's what you believe than you are a tyrannical fascist and need to be arrested.
@@jlock9085 is lying and trying to sell "alternative" thoughts (lies). Like replacement theory 🙄.
Reported for spam and hate speech.
@@jlock9085 Fun fact, you DON'T have the constitutional right to 'speak your mind on the internet without being banned' ...wait for it... *by the PRIVATE entity which owns the platform.*
1A is about preventing the GOVERNMENT from banning your speech. Twitter can ban you all they like if you violate their policies. Policies to which you agreed btw.
Y'all need to actually learn the country you claim to care so much about.
The organizers need sedition charges.
It's coming...Nancy will drag it out so 22 midterms are tarnished REALLY WELL...shes a smart old bird ain't she?
@@phriedokra6158
Well, personally I support term limits and I'm not a super fan of corporate democrat Nancy Pelosi, but yeah...
She is pretty freaking sharp.
I believe sedition can only be a charge during time of war, but attempting to overthrow the government and assaulting the capitol (not to mention destroying and stealing govt property) should be federal crimes.
@@amramjose
Treason can only be charged under a declaration of war.
Sedition is specifically for domestic threats to the Constitution, the government or the performance of it's Constitutional duties.
Sedition under a declaration of war would then be treason by law, but is certainly treasonous by intent.
I agree. Arrest Pelosi and FBI
Thank you. I’m so tired of hearing that line
THIS is EXACTLY who we are and have ALWAYS been.
Meh, depends on what "media" you consume. I've heard it seriously contended that it neither exists now nor has never existed.
The " great replacement " was actually when European nations decided to send all of their misfits and religious malcontents too the newly discovered North America , the indigenous people were there well before we even discovered the Americas . We Brits are the most to blame ( although the french came a close second ) , and yet we repeated the same actions in Australia .
This is the piece missing when discussing this-- Replacement started at Plymouth Rock.
Massachusetts founded by religious dissidents, opposed to the established Anglican church. Rhode Island founded by dissidents from the Massachusetts (Pilgrim) church. Rhode Island first to separate church and state, having come to believe that the combination degraded both parties; 200 years before England made the separation. New York a commercial colony founded by the first modern corporation, the Dutch West India Company, in pursuit of the the fur trade. Delaware, founded by Sweden. Didn't last long. Maryland, English Catholics fleeing from religious harassment. Virginia "second sons" aristos, not in line to inherit the family estates in England. US population in 1776 : 2.5 million.
Don't give yourselves so much credit.
Don't forget SPAIN
Don't forget Hawaii, replacing the natives there, Tasmania completely erasing a entire people. South Africa replacing the natives there, Invading India, Leopold of the Belgium genocide of over a million in the Congo. Two world wars , 3 Christian Crusades against Muslims in their own land, Invasion of Canada and South America
"one nation very divisible, with liberty and justice for oil" at one time was a joke line.
Humour is a great revealer of the truth.
If judgement was served swiftly on these people by the rule of law this would be halted right away and done with.
I mean you do have a point there if those people would’ve been arrested and been in prison for their earlier crimes they never would’ve been committing another crime and been killed by Kyle Rittenhouse for defending himself
And assuming somebody’s party lines based on their race is racism may God help us all
Yes. It makes one wonder why that is not happening. At this point, there is so much video evidence showing exactly who was at the Capitol, where they were and what they were doing. It should be fairly straightforward what the charges and sentences should be.
@@naturalphenomenon1402 well they didn't go to black neighborhoods to burn them down on the other hand blm
@@joejacko1587 30%er/🎠
Neither did BLM.
Weak false narrative.
I wish somebody would make a compilation of tucker carlson's outrage faces. I think the result would be hilarious.
Someone must have slapped him on the back when he made that face as a kid ;~)
I never watch him .
DANGEROUS and nothing to LAUGH at!!!
At least Jon Stewart made him ditch the ridiculous bow ties
@@charlesputnam9370 you sound like a racist
Great interview Mehdi - and it is very refreshing to see learned people on as guests discussing their work, instead of people just spouting off the latest tavern talk. There is still a sliver of hope for America!
Usually you know the clan is around when the noose makes its appearance.
OR BIDEN IS ATTENDING THEIR FUNERAL.
@@mikebrigs1218 but...but...Biden! 😭😭😭😭😭
That's what you sound like ,
@@kteka9265 at least the right is not ignoring reality and having pretend time. The liberal movement is mostly comprised of parent less children. But yeah.
@@mytruecrimelibrary and that was all you have. No mentality update and purge today?
How come the KKK isn't against the law they killed and hanged black people
Nixon's AG went to prison and so did a lot of his administration .If Nixon then Trump !
One unfortunate truth about this, though. Nixon didn't go to jail for what he did. If he'd fought the resignation, there's a good chance he might have, but he didn't. And therein is the problem.
History is just new people making old mistakes - Sigmund Freud
@@christinacody5845 Nixon didn't go to jail because Ford pardoned him. Fact
Eddieisherenow, 40 of Nixon's men went to federal prisons, including his atty--for a burglary coverup. This former president will fill up federal and some state prisons.
That was back when Republicans were willing to hold president of their own party accountable. Nixon wasn't going to resign until group of Republicans, headed by uber-rt-winger Barry Goldwater told him he would be convicted in the Senate.
Tucker needs to leave I'm Choctaw so therefore original American along with the other native tribes so by Tucker's own words he should leave
Actually, replacing the "great replacement" followers would be a good thing. We could call it the "Great Improvement".
Or the improvening!
Please don't fall into Tucker's Trap. He wants our vision of inclusion to feel like a threat. He wants to create a false choice between people with long histories in this country and people no history. The greatly improved future I work for has plenty of space, opportunity, and peace for all of these people.
@@burchell007 There is no space in my vision of the future for bigots.
@@darryldunmore5184 I agree with that. But there is always room for former bigots.
The unfuckening?
Each time the former guy's bright orange face comes on TV, they should have a caption that reads, "Do not adjust your set."
Jon Kirk, I think there's a caption regarding the station not being responsible for anything the speaker says, too.
When you hear people say "we need to take America back" at trump rallies who do you think is the we that they're talking about?
It's the same people that chanted "we will not be replaced" at Charlottesville.
So white people should be happy they’re being replaced? Would you accept that in Japan for the Japanese or Israel?
@@jessejames2925 Didn't white people replace the Natives by taking over their land?
@@jessejames2925 Silly man! White people are European. Only people like the Lakota, Seminoles, Navajo, etc, are native to this country.
@@jessejames2925 White people are not being replaced. What exactly does that even mean? Being replaced from what? Is anyone kicking you out of the country? Were you fired from your job for being white? Were you evicted from your home so it could be leased to a non-white immigrant?
@@jessejames2925 As RD said, you are NOT being replaced. You are just lied to and scared.
Never trust a former President who wears Jim Bakker’s haircut and Tammy Faye’s makeup.
🤣🤣 True!
Hahahaha!!! Thanks! I needed a good laugh tonight.
This woman is hitting on many amazing points. Well done.
Throwing supporters under the bus is apparently the republican strategy moving into the midterms. A well thought out plan from a PHD graduate form Trump University.
@Scott Manerez Tell me which cities are the Whitest, exactly.
Single party rule is never achieved without violence and people being killed.
SLC.
But anyone who hasn't been to seminary should be off the streets before sundown.
And all these years we thought "busing" was about how your kids got to school!
@@Wasserkaktus That’s because on average American white families on average have exponentially more money and wealth than others. Poor majority white communities experience high crime too, so race is not really a causation as to why the community is safe or not.
Everything the Right has said or done since 2008 has been inspired by the excellence of one Black man.
*half*
True
🎯
What is black man
And he was a disappointment though elegantly so and articulate!
“There is no form of protest against racism that is acceptable to racists” ~Bernice King
No position should exist without an eclectic group of people able check their power. Judges by and large can be as bias as they want, and there is rarely anyone to put them in their place.
"Judicial immunity" sux doesn't it 🤔
Judges are practicality governors at times. Their power and control is ultimately mind blowing. I never realized how powerful they really were until rather recently. I had always assumed a system of oversight, accountability, and checks and balances existed. I was delusional.
Every person trusted with an elected seat has the responsibility to leave their personal opinions and emotions at the door when it's decision making time. It's not rocket science understanding one's own constituency.
In the context of law, they literally have a cheat sheet 99% of the time. The Justice System's reliance on precedence means the decisions have usually already been made.
Here, I agree with the law to not allow the reference "victim". That's what this case is ultimately deciding, so you can't refer to them in a way that only the future can know. The problem is allowing defense to refer to the same as "rioters", "looters", etc.. The same applies, only here there is no person left to defend themselves against these allegations. They haven't been proven "rioters & looters", and can't be, because they're dead. If I prosecuted this case, I'd call them by their names. Every time. They're human people. Gone.
Joey, that is because Some people get intimidated by the law and do not fight against it. There are ways to make complaints about judges. People should not think they are infallible.
@@Veritas-invenitur : "And they don't need all that power over the people either, the life time gig should be up, no one should be a judge for life, playing "god, they are not "gods! People need to be protesting to have these life time positions stop, with legislation, or on the ballots?" Keep sitting around being distracted, by lies and misinformation, greed ect... While these nuts within government is making up laws, to take away people's rights and freedoms by the people who hate people that don't look like them? "While they try to say that about the people who is really fighting for the greater good!
This country is in the toilet right now, the last administration has damaged this country in ways that will take years to repair.
We are the cesspool!
Nah, the damage was done long before that. The last administration just finally made it impossible to go on ignoring the damage. In a way, that's a good thing. If you guys can turn the ship around, that is....
@@TheBoriskuehn well, turning it around is infinitely harder to do than wrecking everything was. We'll see how this goes, but I suspect we have not yet seen the bottom. Hard times are coming our way, buckle up.
@@TheBoriskuehn oh really is that why he's a ONE-TERM, TWICE impeached excuse for a president?...GOTCHA. Lol.
Thank the GOP.
If you want to know how Trump's Deplorables think just read _The Turner Diaries._ That's the future they want for America.
Bingo. This entire trump nightmare has been an attempt to fulfill the prophecies from a work of fiction. As if blowing up the Murrah building in OKC didn't disprove their theory that America is a powder keg of intractable racial divisions waiting for that one spark to ignite a nuclear civil war.
Tal Moore you’re spot on!!
Ill have to search it out thanks
I read this book twenty years ago, for the sake of being open-minded. I fell asleep. Boring and preachy. Basically a long, boring, predictable hate speech of the author's vision of the way America should be in "blah, blah, blah." One of the worst published writers of the 20th century. I thought psychopaths were at least supposed to be charismatic like Hannibal Lecter, I thought wrong.
@@PhilLesh69 AND LIBERALISM IS PICKING WHAT BATHROOM TO USE. GOOD TIMES !!
The second _victim_ of Rittenhouse may have thought he was trying to take down what he perceived as a mass shooter.
“ I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just. And that his justice cannot sleep forever.”
-Thomas Jefferson
@@Greenisthebestcolor and that Sally had him hemmed up with love. She probably caused his conscience to rethink his life/moves
Read her book Bring The War Home. It’s expertly researched and looks at the movement over a span of about 50 years.
Do you think that the fact that she is white gives her b.s. credibility?
*A Nation Built on Stolen Land* ~~
_As we examine racism and recommit to racial justice this Lent, it is vital that we address the attempted systematic destruction of the Native peoples of North America by colonizers, both ancient and modern. The United States was built on a foundation of colonization, racism, and genocide._
Your comment should be posted on billboards all over this country...
You have missed the long boat. I agree in large part with your comment. However, do you think South America was originally a Latin native land. Or are you just another racist ?
@@deniseandrews113 wouldn't last a week.
It is the same in Australia and racism, although being challenged strongly, still remains.
@@cadebritt8001 why not? Would you destroy it?
I feel so bad about what happened to him and the rest of his fellow officers. Talking about helps but please get some help. I met one of your friends and before he could say anything. I just gave him a hug. For as long as he needed. He let me go. He said thank you. I said Walk with God. I'm praying for you and your friends that was there that awful day.
He had gun and didn't use it. Had the insurrectionist been black, he wouldn't have thought twice about firing his weapon.
@@edwardgibson8400
How do you know? Do you know this man personally?
@@reynardfox962 I know this country.
When Tucker speaks of "ancestors of this land"...is he speaking of The Trail of Tears?
Unfortunately NO! But then he is a paid performer, one of the hollow men.
🌿🪶🔥🦬🔥🪶🌿.....one of many trails of death.
Aho.....hungry on the ReZ right now! Haven't had food in eight days. Unregulated water district put lock on water. Large electric Co cut off electricity. Genocide still....Elder of my Tribe. Spray painted ....SOS on my house with crosses....no help.
@@rubytuesday7653 Oh no! Where are you at, Ruby?
Imagine a white guy whose ancestors displaced native Americans talking about great replacement theory.
White do you mean white
yep and white people don't want to be forced onto those reservations with them
And why not? Just because his ancestors did something does not mean he would do the same. People need to get educated in this country. So many problems exist because of the obvious lack of education in history, geography, the humanities. etc.
@@joejacko1587 I think there are white people living on reservations or tribal land. If you go to Northern MN or WI, you find places anyone can buy on the reservations. But, you are under tribal law, so, you should look at what moving there means before you to.
I had to look this up... so European Caucasians may be replaced over time by non European immigrants. Interesting theory. I don't think it would happen since America likes to be a melting pot. But, I do see some cultures that are less likely to assimilate, and so if they crowd into one area/town that may drive some "white flight or townie flight" if the people who gave loved there a long time are not comfortable living in the middle of that culture. Please notice I said culture, because I don't think it's skin color that drives these changes in the long run.
Anyone with a confederate flag flying in their yard should be watched by the F.B.I. Racism has made a huge comeback in the U.S. in the guise of right wing republican politics.
That part,but the fbi may have the flag as well🤷🏾♀️
Welcome to Trump's Amerikkka.
@@valeriewilliams5443 facts
Try again, bubber.
A white woman can get punched in the subway and no one cares.
A black woman is insulted and a city burns.
You need therapy
The label "White supremacy" isn't being used enough! It's past time for the media and politicians to call it out at every opportunity!! Thank you Kathleen Belew for helping to write this book and sounding the serious alarm of the dangers of white supremacy and the fight to maintain white power in American!!
you know racial supremacy doesn't spread by saying that your race is better then the others its endocrines a race saying that your the victim of this race
like you are doing you're not fighting white supremacy
youre just becoming a supremacist
as you noted "White supremacy"
so its not the problem of supremacy at all
but rather when white people do better to you and that's why you are a supremacist your fight isn't for equity and its far from equality its ageist any white people in power
and yes you can be a self hating white person
@@joejacko1587 Umm, there's no such thing as "racial supremacy", your comment makes no sense.
@@MPR2 sorry racial supremacist
@@MPR2 and is White supremacy not a form of racial supremacy if so how does it not exist
This whole "white supremacy" comes from some colonizers who were into slave trading. Before that, there was no "colors" from people. They wrote the book basically to say that if the Blacks were slaves, then they, the whites were superior. It was handed down from centuries and centuries. The lie about the whites becoming extinct is just that, a lie. There are 68% of Whites in the US, 12% of Blacks, and the rest are Hispanics, Asians and other groups.
Education, education, education!!!! 🤦♂
It's almost as if a large portion of the country is proud to be stupid.
This is the _real_ problem and it's going to take *decades* to fix.
Republicans won't fix it.
I agree completely. That's what I'm saying. More attention & funding needs to go to education in this country. It's scary how clueless & gullible some people can be.
The Republicans want schools to be defunded. They also want to do away with the USPS. It's because they want it to be privatized. Again, less money for those who need it and more money to those who own these commodities.
@@edgybarbie77 I think if you look into it- the United states valued public education in this country right up until the brown Vs board of education - and since then it has been some version of charter schools ever since and active attempts to destroy the public education system
Why do think there is so much talk today about critical race theory?
The Republican Party wants to eliminate any mention of the evils imposed on racial minorities by the United States government throughout its history.
These laws are being passed in many of the “red” states along with voter suppression laws including the ability of the legislature in those states to overthrow the will of the majority of the veterans.
Oh this nuttiness is precisely who we are. We didn’t know it maybe (some of us did) but this is US.
Mauritius Dunfagel, Isn't this why many of us began having diversity training at work years ago? I met a 9 yr. old once who had "diversity" as a spelling word; that gave me hope.
Is that ok with you?
🤢🤮 alas, you are correct!
Yes, the fact that a massive 74m Americans voted for the 🍊 Narcissist speaks volumes...
The number of people who voted for Trump for 2020 tells me that about half the country want "white supremacy" to remain. I was surprised that so many people still think like this.
Of course they denied participation!
Show us all your documents! Let us have copy.
KNOWLEDGE IS POWER
Kathleen Belew commands respect and everyone in the US really needs to listen to her and other historians like her.
It's so frustrating how smart people aren't valued like money is 🤢.
Not true. The most wise and successful people of human history have always surrounded themselves with people who are smarter than they are. Propaganda and showmanship will always be at the front (money), but intelligence always keeps the wheels turning.
I am so glad to hear what Kathleen Belew has to say. I'm a black woman, and it makes me angry when so many people say "this is not who we are" - it is exactly who we were and who we ARE.
Also, the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial is shameful for to not allowing the prosecuting attorneys refer to young men Rittenhouse shot and KILLED, as "victims." How is that even possible?? Finally, as far as the "great replacement" diatribe, Trump is a SECOND generation immigrant. His parents weren't born here. He's the offspring of immigrants. Trump is nowhere near a "legacy" American.
Zombie apocalypse, following the orders of their zombie leader
Yes, I saw a couple episodes of "Walking Dead." The Jan. 6 attackers were a lot like zombies, perhaps a bit more animated.
🤣🤣
I’m sure Tucker must be referring to native Americans when he refers to “legacy Americans”…right? 🙄
Carlson: "WE STOLE THIS COUNTRY FAIR AND SQUARE!"
It’s funny you say that. When I was a kid I heard old people say that in regards to the Native Americans.
IKR
Mehdi, Thanks. I've caught some presentations by Kathleen on UA-cam before and she is a great resource to further our understanding of this current... mess or threat or danger we are facing.
"Legacy Americans" I guess Mr. TV Dinner means Native Americans as opposed to their European replacements
I call them the First People, but they were also immigrants.
@@leasmith2348 ...which totally justifies the genocide and colonization of America. Right? Since they were just immigrants. 🤦♂️
So this is what they meant by supporting the blue, trashing them with trumpy poles, I get it.
You often have the most interesting guests! Thank you Mehdi and thank you for letting her speak withoit interrupting.
Mo Brooks wore armor because he knew exactly what was going to happen, because he helped plan it!
_In the 15th Century, when European settlers began to arrive in_ *North America,* _the continent was richly populated with_ *Native American communities.*
*Great American Indian tribes such as the Navajo, Sioux, Cherokee, and Iroquois lived in America at the time the Pilgrims arrived. The Pilgrims settled in an area where a tribe called the Wampanoag lived.*
Correct.
The native community at Plymouth was a city of 50,000+, but had been decimated by a common European disease introduced by English fishermen, that they had no immunity to, and those very few who had a genetic resistance abandoned it.
Squanto, the native responsible for saving the pilgrims from starvation was one of those survivors.
The pilgrims repaid his human compassion by capturing him and sending him to Europe as a slave.
All part of the christian concept of devine "manifest destiny".
Also, The Iroquois Articles of Confederation were used as the template for the U.S. Constitution, making it a uniquely American Document.
It was fundamentalist christianity that was responsible for the genocide of Native Americans.
White Europeans were just the ones who brought it to N. America, but the results would have been the same no matter what race had brought it with them.
The bronze age goat herders who made up the abrahamic death cult mythology of the bible, created their god in their own image.
That's why the only thing the abrahamic god loves more than land theft, pillage and s€x slavery, is genocide.
It's just christianity's thang.
And that's one reason among many, that the founding fathers, knowing tyranny was inherent to theocracy, authored our deliberately secular Constitution to establish the U.S. as a secular nation of humanist laws.
The freedom of religion is entirety dependent on the freedom from religion.
As are all freedoms.
@@satanicmicrochipv5656 There is so much BS in your diatribe. Stop blaming religion for what was and is happening. If everyone followed Jesus's words to love your neighbor as yourself this would never be happening.
@@silverforest4682
No there isn't.
Read some actual history books instead of the historical-ish fiction of the bible.
There's some wisdom in the teachings ascribed to jesus™, but nothing approaching devine wisdom by a long shot.
It's all just stuff that is obvious to anyone capable of introspection and rudimentary deductive reasoning.
Anyone that would think murder, theft and lying are ok, if it wasn't for some character from ancient Palestinian mythology must have a mental defect.
All of the other cultures around the world seemed to figure it out without jesus™.
"Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law."
~Thomas Jefferson
"The USofA should always have a foundation free from the influence of clergy."
~George Washington
"The bible: A history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind."
~Thomas Payne
"In every country and every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty.
He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
~Thomas Jefferson
"If left to their own devices, good people will do good and bad people will do bad.
But if you want normally good people to commit atrocities, you're going to need a bible."
~Steven Weinberg
jesus™ said he would save the world from sin.
Thor said he would rid the world of ice giants.
Well, when's the last time you saw an ice giant?
If you're going to pick an imaginary friend for emotional support, at least pick one that does what he says.
Liberate yourself from the intellectual subjugation to figments of imagination.
Superstition fails.
SCIENCE PREVAILS!!!
@@satanicmicrochipv5656 Science will not furnish a single solitary moral imperative. Sorry!
@@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
No it won't.
Neither does religion.
"Moral imperatives" are naturally inherent to humans.
Religion simply usurps human morality as a means of manipulating and fleecing it's followers, selling it back to them on a lifelong installment plan.
And biblical morality are the morals of a psychopath, as demonstrated in deuteronomy31 and the whole of leviticus.
Science can provide a more reliable pathway to morality through logic, deductive reasoning and critical thought, than the doctrinal absolutes of bronze age superstition and it's abrahamic death cult mythology.
Not sorry.
I still want to know what ended up happening to the " It was supposed to be a revolution, but they peppersprayed us" woman.
Yeah that was priceless. Laughed to tears, hope she’s in a cell right now.
When she said they were there for a "Revolution," I was like, "What? And Why?" I'm glad she got peppered sprayed as she did say they pepper sprayed her and her husband when they were trying to enter the building. I also hope they are both doing time. I think the judges are handing out sentences that are way too lenient.
JESUS said,"love your neighbor as yourself." Vote blue in 22&24 and allow evil to die a peaceful death of non-support.
Just make sure it's Progressive blue and not Red in Blue ties like Manchin and Sinema.
jesus™ said unto Peter;
"Come fourth and I shall give you eternal life!"
But Peter came in fifth and got a toaster.
Carlson needs a hood to go with his robes…plus he needs to know his ancestors where probably from Europe and not from North America I don’t think he is a native
You spelled KKKarlson wrong.
Even being white, as first generation, looked down upon by those whose families came here earlier. When I lived in certain states for a while and if not born in that state, was looked down upon as a newcomer as well. Humans will find any reason to feel superior, sad.
@End Racists Just saying generally humans look to see how they are different/better than others and separate themselves.
Pathetic! We
@End Racists well isn't that statement just a full on oxymoron of racism
@End Racists He's gonna mention like 1 Black guy who was part of the kkk and use that as justification 😂
Here is the FACT that needs to be discussed: America has NEVER been great, NEVER been exceptional, NEVER been "the greatest country on earth".
@David Wolff Let me refrain it for your slow (probably maga cult) brain: If you think America is great (ie the greatest country on earth) say why in one sentence. I have asked many of the maga faithful and they can never give any definitive evidence for it. 😘
@David Wolff Summary of your comment: I can't give a single reason why America is the greatest country on earth. Thanks. 😘
@David Wolff Summary of your comment: I can't give a single reason why America is the greatest country on earth. Thanks. 😘
A fine nuanced discussion for those who want to feel better about it.
1. Privilege. Just plain and simple privilege. No black and white about it. Race is secondary. The backfilled justification for the privilege that already exists. To destract us from the fact that it's just plain privilege.
2. It's Fascism. The guest uses the idea of it making inroads. Because it's precept again is not primarily racist. That is a totem. It is fascism.
The building blocks, ideologies, indoctrination, symbolism, tactics and strategies of Fascism.
Fascism has to always have an other. A magical force. A spiritual war bigger then the criminality it inflicts on society. The justification for the fascists.
This is fascism.
These TREASONISTS are not so brave now that things are begining ro warm up. Bring them to justice, because justice MATTERS.
Agreed. They are not nor were they ever brave. Trump incited them and claimed to have their back, and he didn't. The insurrectionists claim to be loyal to Trump and blame him for giving them orders. Using intimidation, threats, and violence to get what you cannot rightfully have is not brave. It's what people do when they are anxious and afraid of losing control.
@David Wolff Pure politics.
These TREASONOUS, so called Republican Lawmakers are using these Trumpers {unknowingly} to further their much DARKER agenda. If left unchecked America will end up with a FASCIST STATE and a DICTATOR. Re-run Germany 1936-1945.
@David Wolff I predicted days before the so-called insurrection that Trump would try and burn the House down. Well he came very close!. I predict if he is ever re-elected again he will stay in power and turn America from a democracy into an ultra-right wing DICTATORSHIP.
If you don't stop it now it will be worse next time
I don't even get it, they're acting like this was just a mistake, a blip as such. The history books will mark it as a significant point in whatever is coming. Trump being kicked out of the White House wasn't the end, it is part of the middle. The world is watching in shock and horror at every decision being made. The unrest in America is growing and I can honestly say I scared for the American people and sincerely pity the sane Americans. The lunatics are running the asylum!
WHAT HAPPENED TO SUPPORT THE BLUE
It become inconvenient to their objectives. Remember that being a hypocrite is now a requirement to be a far-right/republican member.
@@komenisai well said
Sure, completely ignore the money men behind it all, the Mercers, the Murdochs, Thiel etc.
Most of the gop should be charged with treason
I LOLed too much when he said "an otter in the wild" 😆 unexpected.
I am still finding it hard to see why the law makers in America can't totally hit with the severity required, the full letter of the law to those responsible. The entire world saw it.
KathleenBelew historian I wish she would speak to college students high school and local news
YES, Thank you for this segment.
What moves slower than a sloth??? 🤔
US legal system. 💯
Justice in America!
We all know the truth that was all Trump those were his supporters it's a shame it happened but that's just my opinion
So true
Some of the people working with trump before the sixth were trolling local dc news sites posting taunts about how they had the maps to the tunnels, how they had trailers full of rifles at hotels in virginia, and how they were going to go out the night before the rally to "go hunting in the streets around our hotel."
I'm sure Disqus has copies of all the right wing trolls who posted on PoPVille and DCist in the last few weeks of December 2020 and the first week of January. The FBI could open up dozens of new investigations from those alone, I'm sure.
Great conversation! Keep up the good work. Thanks
After all my years trying to understand racism, even tracking through generational upbringing, I came to the conclusion that it came from one thing: rank stupidity. Maybe the long term solution would be an actual education system?
Incredible history breakdown, thank you Kathleen.
It’s not only that history somehow repeats itself, but there are institutional triggers that can help it rise easily, and that’s why we see it so often, like every generation 😢 🤦🏽♂️
*_*_*_ We need to DEFUND BILLIONAIRE _*_*_*
*Before Billionaires Defund US Permanently*
Trillionaires , Billionaire got boring. Holidays in Cancun ? 🥱 holidays in Adromeda? Sure, Milky Way got so boring.
So why need Bannon then?
What’s wrong with whites? Why did you or your folks come to us? Could have built your own empires. If you dont like us, the borders are open. Go and preach to your own people. We gave u eternal light. Without our light, you’d be still living in darkness
And whites who are ashamed of their skin color, go and leave . No one is stopping you. No one !!!
@@lunafringe10 wow. You sound really trashy. How did you manage to be racist in a discussion about billionaires?
I appreciated Kathleen Belew's information in this piece. It was helpful to me to widen and deepen my understanding.
I clicked on this expecting to be disappointed, as I am by most MSNBC clips (because usually half or most of the interview is cut off). I was pleasantly surprised by this one, thanks so much for including the whole thing!!!
tucker saying they are the natives lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That's RICH coming from those who REPLACED ALL of MY ANCESTORS from our ANCESTORIAL HOMES , KILLING MOST of THEM in order for them to PURSUE THEIR OWN HAPPINESS!!! WHAT ABOUT OUR HAPPINESS oh, we were SAVAGES!! BE CAREFULL WHAT YOU WISH FOR, WE MIGHT BE MORE "SAVAGE" THAN YOU EVER DREAMED, LOL!!!!!
None of us did that bro.
you just said he's completely valid in his fears and you agree with him that he should fight.
Very informative. Thank you!
Happy of her breakdown of definitions... Was sorta thinking along those lines already, three groups under a similar vibe. Good video.
Wow! What a great, and scary, interview.
The sense of entitlement is well deserved! ANYONE else would have been treated with total brutality if not death.
Then why was Brooks wearing a bullet-proof vest that day if he didn't know what would be happening?
Analysis, Critique timely,accurate.
Give us more Mehdi
The judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse case should recuse himself from that case. There is no way he can be trusted to give an impartial judgment in this case. He has already found Rittenhouse not guilty.
A Nation is strongest when a big variety of people work together.
Brilliant presentation and analysis by Dr. Belew. Worth listening to more than once and thinking about each of her points.
Can't Rittenhouse be sued civilly?
Fred Cinao, yes, but he's judgment-proof, most likely. Usually, parents aren't financially liable for the crimes their kids commit.
You guys are obsessed with that kid. You mad he killed a couple of your rioters insurectionist buddies?
Free Kyle
@@omeeawakened2371 There were police in the area to handle matters. Vigilantism is unlawful.
@@democratpatriot6752 cops weren’t there when he was being chased down by several people and hit with a skateboard. He had to defend himself against people that were willing to attack a person with a gun. Why didn’t those people call the police on Kyle instead of being vigilantes??
Field guide to white supremacy. I was going to go birdwatching this weekend but now that I have access to this I'm going white supremacy watching instead.
I don't need a historian to tell, explain or acknowledge WS.
I live here!
I'm glad I got to hear this lesson on how to sort out the turds.