Really cool to hear this perspective from a long time Nikon user. I've been a Canon shooter for years but I'm a hybrid shooter(stills/video) and a couple years ago I moved to Sony because they had better offering for hybrid shooter and for cheaper. But I kept my Canon glass hoping they would bounce back. I now have the R5 and it's a game changer. It's an amazing camera and it feels good to be back with canon. I still use my Sony as a backup/second angle camera.
Coming from a Z7 And Z7ii my experience with the R5 with regards to AF for wildlife and BIF has been a real eye opener as to how bad the AF is on the Nikon’s, returned the Z7ii and kept the Z7 for landscapes, tried the Z7ii for bird and wildlife and was very dissatisfied, love the results from the Z7 for landscapes, one point I would make, LR and PS are a bad choice for Canon raw files, try putting the Canon files through DXO pure-raw, massive difference Great channel enjoy your content and advice 👍🏻
Very good that a non Canon user is judging a Canon camera, this review is much more objective than the usually "negative" reviews by "fan" boys and girls of a certain camera.
Love that you keep it real and unbiased, I am so sick of the brand wars. I have been limiting my participation in some forums and utube channels for the very reason of bashing. All systems have their strong point. I am Nikon for sure, but there are some things my Olympus can do that Nikon doesn’t. There is room for everyone, to enjoy the passion of photography.
Absolutely. I feel the same. I have gear from a few manufacturers. Heck, I still shoot from time to time on my 1980s vintage Minoltas, along with my Nikon manual SLRs. I see no reason to jump ship from Nikon, in my use case, but strong competitors helps to drive innovation. That is good for all consumers. The R5 is a fantastic machine.
Agree: there are some things I just take for granted on my Olympus, but I'm very impressed by the cropability of the Canon images and the detail especially the highlights.
Love your channel and your unbiased view on the different systems. Your gear recommendations have always proved spot on for me. I am a canon shooter and upgraded my 5DIV and it’s glass to the R5 and RF glass. Your so spot on about it not being the gear but about knowing your system and just going out and seeing and photographing. I am very happy, with my upgrade to mirrorless and now if I only didn’t have to work so much and had more time to go out and photograph. You have an excellent teaching style and I also enjoy your office hours and your ON1 material. I have learned a ton from watching your videos. Enjoy the rest of the summer with your beautiful family hope you all stay safe.
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The R5 has a dual-gain output sensor which in short means you have the ability to underexpose your shot heavily by up to around four stops, then pull it back up to a normal exposure. It helps a lot when you have bright highlights and backlit situations and don't want to blow the exposure on them. It won't even introduce more noise in the shadows or any vertical line issues which are common with normal type sensors.
Thanks for that. I just got an R5 and noticed the insane ability to rescue shadows compared to previous Canons I’ve owned. Guess I’m going to have to reinvent the way I shoot certain situations. Appreciate your comment.
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@@jimtipton8888 You're welcome! few R5 users are aware of this and they continue to expose as they did on their normal DSLR, which still works but you can make better use of the sensor if you underexpose a stop or two in bright situations and then just pull the exposure back up again in post. Or in very dark situations you can overexpose a stop or two and do the same thing. Because of the dual-gain ISO based sensor you can shoot HDR video in all resolutions and get great quality. I often shoot 8K video and pull 35mpix stills from it if there is a fast situation where 20fps is not enough to capture the moment with. :)
I am a long time Canon shooter and I do own the R5 and love it. It took me some time to switch to mirrorless from my 5D IV but did it and though I still own the 5DIV, I don’t use it anymore. I have the DSLR in case I have to send the R5 to the shop!
I'm sticking with Nikon too. I don't want to change boats mid stream either. And, Nikon cameras are intuitive for me. Everything is where I naturally expect it to be and works the way I assume it should work. But it's interesting to hear about other cameras.
Many years ago I shot with a Nikon D500. The weight of the 200-500/5.6 inspired me to give mirrorless a try. After using Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm, and Sony, I'm seriously thinking about getting an R5 and going Canon. It's good to hear that even Nikon shooting like it :)
I understand your feelings about the Canon R5. I borrowed one in the start of this year ... And felt the same. I really loved that camera. I did a comparison between brands and had a Nikon Z7ii, Sony A7R IV and a Canon R5 ... Nikon also lended me a Z6ii. ... to send back the Z7ii didn't hurt as much as sending back the Canon. After the test period I ordered two Nikon Z6ii :) ... And are still a happy Nikon shooter.
Hey Hudson, long time since I’ve commented on a video of yours, figured now was as a good of time as any! So I had the Z6 and a 24-70 F4 when they first came out, upgraded the 24-70 F4 to the 2.8 version and then ended up leaving Nikon because I was frustrated that the 70-200 and 14-24 were taking so long to arrive. Jumped to Canon with the EOS R and got the 15-35 2.8, 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 and the 100-500. Really enjoyed the glass, was less than enthused with the body, especially compared to Z6. I was holding out on getting an R5 as I wanted to see what R3 would bring to table and after that announcement and rumored specs, new R5 was my better buy…except for one thing…I really missed Nikon! This is completely subjective and my own rationale but I just always felt the pictures I took with my Z6 looked more pleasing to me in terms of how color and the image rendered out. All my Canon files left me feeling like I was trying to compare it to Nikon and never feeling satisfied. Regardless, I rented an R5 to see how I’d like it and boy does that camera sing, especially with the glass, what a combo! But…the allure of Nikon and your recent vids about Nikon and Z6 II just kept playing in my mind. So, made the financially painful choice to go back to Nikon and got the Z6 II and the full set of 2.8 zooms and couldn’t be happier to be back. Just really love the images and the lenses are optically amazing and I put them up against Canon and Sony as phenomenal lenses. I’m here to stay with Nikon and while the autofocus isn’t quite as great as Canon’s R5, it’s pretty darn close and so now I’m joining in the fight to say it’s not as bad as a lot of folks make it out to be. Could it be better? For sure! Is it going to be? I truly believe so! So, with being back in the Nikon fold and having the 2.8 zooms, I’m curious to see what you think the 100-400 will end up being aperture wise? The RF 100-500 for Canon is sublime and love the extra 100mm you got with it but the 4.5-7.1 was a little bit of a let down. Think Nikon will have a faster glass with the less reach or will it be equivalent if you had to guess? Also, any other lens recommendations? I see you really love the 105 2.8 macro, I’ve never had a macro before so not sure it fits what I like to photograph and film but seems like a nice lens. Been making some purchases at Kirk Photo to complement the recent purchases and got my eye on some other gear you’ve been recommending. Final thought, have you ever shot with the 58mm Noct? I really want that lens as I imagine using it for talking head shots for video and it has to be incredible for astrophotography assuming you can live with manual only focus…curious on your takeaway if any? Keep up the awesome work and great video for Canon R5, what an amazing body and great system but I can’t leave Nikon again…and that Z9…ooo wee can’t wait to see what it ends up being!
Glad to see you back brother, there is nothing like those Nikon colors, glass, how the camera feels in your hand, etc etc, cheers! :) And yes, I have a feeling Nikon is coming back with a vengeance with the Z9, new lenses etc.
I feel the same. I switched from a Z6 to an R5. The autofocus, video, etc are a step above. But the files feel flat and require a lot more work to get to a satisfying place, and even then still seem off compared to the Nikon. I would best quantify it as the Nikon files having more depth of contrast and dimensionality of subject matter, that isn’t reproduced with editing alone. . There is definitely a loss of dynamic range and the ability to squeeze files with the R5 vs the Z cameras. I also feel Canon files are heavier in the green/yellow spectrum vs more golden hues with the Nikon. I’m also disappointed with the price, size, and overall quality of the L lenses, with exception of the 70-200 f4. My RF 24-70 2.8 feels inferior to the Z 24-70 f4, with exception of a stop of light. I haven’t switched back as I acquired quite a few lenses already with RF mount but very interested to hear you felt the same.
@@felm.974 Appreciate it! I’m sure the Z9 will be wonderful and while I’m not the target demographic for it, I’m excited for what it means for future bodies. Plus…just never know, I might snag one regardless! That being said, I’m more interested in spending the money on the 58mm Noct…such a tough debate!
@@typerlover It’s nice to know I’m not alone in my thoughts on the image files! Even Jared Polin, regardless of what people think of him personally, has consistently said Nikon files are his favorite even though he shoots Sony for stills and Canon for video. I haven’t been able to articulate what it is but your descriptions are spot on, thank you! I totally understand not wanting to make the move given how much you’ve invested in the system. It was a hard decision for me but I’m just the type of person where if something keeps nagging at me (my preference for Nikon image files), I have to follow through. The good news is my net loss wasn’t too terrible as my local Camera Store matched MPB’s prices which were really high compared to other resale options and I had some “free” money from friends and family so the time was right for me personally. Whether you stay with Canon or switch to Nikon, you’re still shooting with great equipment and that’s a good problem to have 😊
I've been seriously considering switching from my Nikon Z6 II to a Canon R6/R5. Mainly because of the autofocus for fast moving action, like my 4 year old daughter that won't sit still and sporting events, that lacks on the Nikon mirrorless cameras compared to Canon. But everytime I was about to make the move to Canon I went to the R5/R6 FB groups I joined and I just couldn't do it. For the exact same reason you mention. The pictures are just so different. The Canon pictures somehow look flat and a bit 'lifeless' to me. I can't really put my finger on it. I hear people say: "Just shoot in Raw, you can get that Nikon look afterwards." But I never see Canon pictures that actually look like Nikon's. Give me a blind comparison and in >90% of the cases I can tell within 2-3 seconds which one was shot with a Nikon and which one was shot using a Canon. So eventually I ended up renting a R5 for a week. LOVED the camera but really disliked the pictures. To me the R5 is a 9 out of 10 camera wise and a 5 out of 10 picture wise. The Z6 II is a 7.5 out of 10 camera wise but a 9 out of 10 picture wise. I know this is super subjective. Lots of people love the Canon look. But I decided to stick with Nikon and wait for them to catch up with the AF in future firmware updates or camera models.
Great video, Hudson. I recently moved back to Canon and the R5 after seven years with the Fuji system. I'd love to see you spend some time with the latest Fuji bodies-X or GFX. Many of the features you laud in the Canon, Nikon, or Sony bodies are actually more refined in the Fuji system. For example, in the focus stacking mode, you can set both a start point and an end point to limit the number of extra images taken when you don't need to go out to infinity. And Fuji allows the user to set up custom screens like Canon, but your control is much more granular. You can turn each item on or off individually rather than the preset groups you get on the R5. I love my R5 but there is a long list of things that I miss from Fuji.
Great coverage of amazing camera. But your shots show the same lifeless color DPRTV had in their initial testing of R5/6. Is it Adobe defaults or is there really something special about Nikon’s colors?
Nice review, I am a little bias since I shoot Canon but I have followed you channel for several years now and always enjoy you content even if it about Nikons or other brands of cameras. I always enjoy learning and I can depend on that from your videos. (I've been using the R5 for about 8 months)
Hello Hudson, Yes kit does not matter one bit, But having nice kit that you are proud of helps you. want to get out and take images. Keep well, keep safe and enjoy life.
I'm a Nikon D750 user Im weighing up buying the R6 - mainly for the flip screen superior AF and video redundancy. I'm just hanging on to see if the rumoured AF firmware update arrives in September for the Z6/7II.
So your a canon r5 shooter now? That’s cool. Seems like an amazing camera. Do you have any interest in a Z9? I know it’s too early too comment just curious if you had any preliminary interest in it? Thanks
An interesting review. thanks. I own both the sony a1 and Canon R5....whilst both are good , i actually find the bird/animal af far better on the R5 compared to the Sony, which often finds it hard to identify the eye, and drops off fairly easily if it can't lock-on, whereas the Canon will revert to the head if it can't find an eye more consistently....For very quick unexpected action, the Canon is far more reliable to aquire focus in the field and i have missed some great moments on the Sony. If Sony improved in this area with a future firmeware update, the camera would be really excellent....but as it stands its the Canon i rely on. In terms of camera gear and ones photography, in general i agree with you...gear does not make you a better'artist', but the eye af of the new cameras is a game changer....i have taken many grab shots where the focus latches onto the eye before i would ever have been able to do that before without eye af .Many of those images are the ones recently that i have sold..I also feel you work in tandem with tech....the possibilities are now more, so my creative vision has expanded along with the camera advancements......they can simply do more, so the creative posibilities are greater..
Great vid. There is a reason Canon is #1 in sales. For the price , the R5 is the best bang for the dollar at this time. Hope Nikon comes out with something comparable in the not to distant future.
I agree about the camera being the best bang for the buck, but when you try to couple it up with a good, reasonably priced wildlife lens, where do you go? The Nikon 500PF on a D500 is a tough combination to beat for the money. I love the features and specs of the R5 and the price is reasonable, but the 100-500 lens just doesn't seem to be good enough for the feature set on the camera and $13k is too steep for me to move to the F4's. A nice TC friendly 500 or 600 PF type lense in the $4 to $6k range would pair up to this nicely, or even a 200-600 like Sony's. At this point, I have to hold out to see what the Z9 brings. $6.5k is more than I want to spend on a body, but if I don't have the expense of a new big lens, I am still better off. I am really hoping the Z9 brings along some nice updates to the Z6&7ii's as well as a top notch 200-600 zoom.
@@tc6912 You being you & a true Nikon guy, I wouldn't switch from Nikon if I was you unless it left you no choice. When I say best bang for the buck, it means someone out there looking for a new system. Also I hear you on the long lens F4 prices. The one good thing out of all of it is maybe a Nikon 600f4 vr2 might be had down the road at a great price used. Every now & then I see one for sale at a little less than 1/2 price from new. (that is if you even want to lug something that big around. Happy shooting!
If something is in the background and small (face e.g.) than it does not matter if any camera will find the eye! Face will be enough because of depth of field will be enough to have all parts of the face sharp, imho. Thanks for the nice video, but Nikon Z/ii has the better price/quality relation. I stopped working with Canon in 2012, because they did not had any new invetions.
Yeah, not interested. I'm sure it's a fine camera, but I shoot a Z7 and don't intend to move to another system (although I'm thinking about adding the Fuji GFX100S to my kit).
Having owned 5 systems in the last 25 years, with mostly of the time a Canon shooter in the film and dslr era, finally I gave Nikon a try this year. I got a Z6, sold it and bought a Z7. Yes, the image quality is really great, the build quality is also very good (I don´t like the plastic cover on the bottom, the battery door without a spring is weird, and those FN buttons and the release lens button made in a crappy plastic). However, the ergonomics are not that great, the grip is too small in width and length, and I have small hands. I would prefer to have a grip like this R5, like a dslr grip. More on the image quality, probably the main reason why people like me and the long time Nikon shooters, move to Nikon or stay with Nikon. It seems the files have more info to work with, more robust. But I must say, the WB (auto) is probably one of the worst (like Sony) on the market. 70% of the times is completely off, and I remember Canon and Olympus that 70% of the times are spot on, with Olympus being the best one in this regard, probably with the best colours in the market. Lenses.. well, the 2.8s are great optically, but after 3 years of this system, the selection are too sparce. They don't have a Z lens with a shred of originality like Canon did (yes, the Noct is the only one) Is just more of the same F mount with improved image quality. Even in the exterior design of the lenses, it's uninspiring, with no element to highlight them, with a clear difference to the F mount, with beautiful lenses and clearly distinct between the various classes. Now, that we know the Z9, seems to be a great camera, and for that price, can be appealing to Nikon sport shooters to stay or come back to Nikon, I hope so, because a brand like Nikon deserves more. A final note, the Z9 have one simple thing that put me away of one day buying the camera, the lack of a mechanical shutter. I know that probably is the future, and when the global shutter arrives (…and the Z9 doesn´t have one, what is even worse) there is no logical reason to keep the mechanical shutter… but like many things in life, logic is not always the right choice, and for me, part of the process of making an image, is the shutter sound and feeling of the mechanical movement inside the camera, that enhance the passion of shooting.
Does it still Cook in 8K ?? Why no ISO 64?? = Pro camera ? Teleconvertor for Canon RF 70-200 2.8 to go on R5. Can it shoot long exposures longer than 30 Secs? It is a great camera though > My mates love theirs >> very popular in S Africa but the Z7II eats it up with regards to the questions I asked
I'm photographing and I actually want a camera for that, when you need a pro video camera, buy a pro video camera. Canon is using ISO 50, mentioned as L (low) in the menu since decades. The Bulb timer can be set for exposures longer than 30 sec. By adjusting the menu settings specific settings are easy and fast accessible.
R5 can be made to go to iso 50 in the settings.You can shoot long exposures beyond 30 seconds . You are correct about the teleconverter however. If you have a a ninja v monitor there is a trick to shoot indefinitely. Shut off the lcd and evf. I have not overheated at all as of yet. Have a great day
l too love my Z but l must admit l turn to the R6 when l can it just better set up l feel for ease of use particularly the flip screen but the Z is just so well weather sealed and bombproof and so long as my subject is still the autofocus is stellar won't be giving up my Z.
You are a lucky guy. Great family shots. Could be my family 30 years ago. Right down to the gorgeous Golden. I don't have the lifetime of Nikon DNA you do. I will have to purchase a body and all new lens. I am researching what gear to purchase in my somewhat unique situation - age 70 and about to retire, also stopped slr work more than 30 years ago and I never got into digital slrs. I'm have a fair amount of knowledge but I am not a professional. Still, I want to get gear that will keep me interested and moving forward with my skills in my golden years. I have to say, while I am predisposed to Nikon, I am starting to lean toward Canon. Maybe the Canon R6.
@@pianofinger Most people here are probably pretty advanced, but, for me, a really helpful video would cover this: You are an intermediate amateur, you have lost all your old bodies and lenses, you are purchasing a completely new mirrorless system. What are the first few lens to get so you have most situations covered.
@@robgerety my first couple were the 24-70 and 70-200 since I started with weddings for friends and concerts. Then the GAS started and I filled up the bag with a lot more lenses for pet projects and video
@@pianofinger My expectation is that I will use this new camera mostly for wildlife, (including birds), and landscapes. I wonder if to start I might be best served with a 14-35 and a 100-400/500. Later add in something in the middle. I'll probably continue to use my iphone for snapshots and family videos.
Photographers concern themselves too much with equipment. So much can be done with the basics. Focus on the work, creating the images. Replace equipment as it is TRULY needed. Exceptions are equipment reviewers (DP Review, etc.) Photographers actually mind-think themselves into be disappointed with their work because they don't have the latest body or lens. This is rarely a valid justification for disappointment.
I know that LR still has no access to Canon camera profiles but the colour is just horrible…The whole point for buying a Canon camera for years was excellent colour but until this is sorted people will have to use their own presets or buy some professional ones. I don’t really know what’s going on but I am most definitely not running all of my photos via DPP to get something nice…Even C1 is only half decent. And as a Canon shooter I do have to say that colour coming straight out of new Nikons looks amazing and is a far better starting point for any editing.
Most Nikon that jumped ship would usually jump to Fuji and Sony, seldom do I see Nikonian Jump to Canon. That is why Fuji and Sony are getting bigger market share from Mostly Nikon’s share.
Not about to jump, but if I did, I'd go to the one I like using the most. Having shot the A1 and R5 back to back, it'd be the R5. I still like my Nikons better, but build quality and ease of use are huge for me. The R5 is a joy to use and built like a tank as Nikon and Canon tend to do.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto , Well, you don’t have to merry with a perfect women. You merry one that you can get along and makes you happy. Nikon Canon Sony, they are more or less down to personal preference, not so much of technical issue that cannot be over come.
Yeah, we've had this discussion in the thread. There is no doubt that Nikon's color science is tops. Another reason I still love the Nikons. And you're certainly right about the skin tones. But that said... The R5 is a wonderful beast of a mirrorless offering for the Canon folks. It's a very fun camera that gets so much right.
I've had my R5 for about nine months and it has made us Canon shooters sigh in relief: FINALLY! Such an awesome camera!
I have an R5 and an R6 and love both! I have some RF glass but the EF adapter makes the EFs work just as well as with RF native glass.
Really cool to hear this perspective from a long time Nikon user. I've been a Canon shooter for years but I'm a hybrid shooter(stills/video) and a couple years ago I moved to Sony because they had better offering for hybrid shooter and for cheaper. But I kept my Canon glass hoping they would bounce back. I now have the R5 and it's a game changer. It's an amazing camera and it feels good to be back with canon. I still use my Sony as a backup/second angle camera.
Coming from a Z7 And Z7ii my experience with the R5 with regards to AF for wildlife and BIF has been a real eye opener as to how bad the AF is on the Nikon’s, returned the Z7ii and kept the Z7 for landscapes, tried the Z7ii for bird and wildlife and was very dissatisfied, love the results from the Z7 for landscapes, one point I would make, LR and PS are a bad choice for Canon raw files, try putting the Canon files through DXO pure-raw, massive difference
Great channel enjoy your content and advice 👍🏻
Very good that a non Canon user is judging a Canon camera, this review is much more objective than the usually "negative" reviews by "fan" boys and girls of a certain camera.
Love that you keep it real and unbiased, I am so sick of the brand wars. I have been limiting my participation in some forums and utube channels for the very reason of bashing. All systems have their strong point. I am Nikon for sure, but there are some things my Olympus can do that Nikon doesn’t. There is room for everyone, to enjoy the passion of photography.
Absolutely. I feel the same. I have gear from a few manufacturers. Heck, I still shoot from time to time on my 1980s vintage Minoltas, along with my Nikon manual SLRs. I see no reason to jump ship from Nikon, in my use case, but strong competitors helps to drive innovation. That is good for all consumers. The R5 is a fantastic machine.
Agree: there are some things I just take for granted on my Olympus, but I'm very impressed by the cropability of the Canon images and the detail especially the highlights.
Love your channel and your unbiased view on the different systems. Your gear recommendations have always proved spot on for me. I am a canon shooter and upgraded my 5DIV and it’s glass to the R5 and RF glass. Your so spot on about it not being the gear but about knowing your system and just going out and seeing and photographing. I am very happy, with my upgrade to mirrorless and now if I only didn’t have to work so much and had more time to go out and photograph. You have an excellent teaching style and I also enjoy your office hours and your ON1 material. I have learned a ton from watching your videos. Enjoy the rest of the summer with your beautiful family hope you all stay safe.
The R5 has a dual-gain output sensor which in short means you have the ability to underexpose your shot heavily by up to around four stops, then pull it back up to a normal exposure. It helps a lot when you have bright highlights and backlit situations and don't want to blow the exposure on them. It won't even introduce more noise in the shadows or any vertical line issues which are common with normal type sensors.
Thanks for that. I just got an R5 and noticed the insane ability to rescue shadows compared to previous Canons I’ve owned. Guess I’m going to have to reinvent the way I shoot certain situations. Appreciate your comment.
@@jimtipton8888 You're welcome! few R5 users are aware of this and they continue to expose as they did on their normal DSLR, which still works but you can make better use of the sensor if you underexpose a stop or two in bright situations and then just pull the exposure back up again in post. Or in very dark situations you can overexpose a stop or two and do the same thing.
Because of the dual-gain ISO based sensor you can shoot HDR video in all resolutions and get great quality. I often shoot 8K video and pull 35mpix stills from it if there is a fast situation where 20fps is not enough to capture the moment with. :)
I am a long time Canon shooter and I do own the R5 and love it. It took me some time to switch to mirrorless from my 5D IV but did it and though I still own the 5DIV, I don’t use it anymore. I have the DSLR in case I have to send the R5 to the shop!
I'm sticking with Nikon too. I don't want to change boats mid stream either. And, Nikon cameras are intuitive for me. Everything is where I naturally expect it to be and works the way I assume it should work. But it's interesting to hear about other cameras.
It was an absolute delight to migrate from Nikon to Canon with the new RF glass and R mount bodies. The RF lenses are just simply amazing.
Glad to hear you are staying with Nikon :) and can't wait for the Z9 and beyond, cheers!
The product design team did a stellar job, asthetically the R5 and R6 are the prettiest looking full-frame cameras from any manufacturer.
Many years ago I shot with a Nikon D500. The weight of the 200-500/5.6 inspired me to give mirrorless a try. After using Panasonic, Olympus, Fujifilm, and Sony, I'm seriously thinking about getting an R5 and going Canon. It's good to hear that even Nikon shooting like it :)
I understand your feelings about the Canon R5. I borrowed one in the start of this year ... And felt the same. I really loved that camera. I did a comparison between brands and had a Nikon Z7ii, Sony A7R IV and a Canon R5 ... Nikon also lended me a Z6ii. ... to send back the Z7ii didn't hurt as much as sending back the Canon. After the test period I ordered two Nikon Z6ii :) ... And are still a happy Nikon shooter.
Hey Hudson, long time since I’ve commented on a video of yours, figured now was as a good of time as any!
So I had the Z6 and a 24-70 F4 when they first came out, upgraded the 24-70 F4 to the 2.8 version and then ended up leaving Nikon because I was frustrated that the 70-200 and 14-24 were taking so long to arrive. Jumped to Canon with the EOS R and got the 15-35 2.8, 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 and the 100-500. Really enjoyed the glass, was less than enthused with the body, especially compared to Z6.
I was holding out on getting an R5 as I wanted to see what R3 would bring to table and after that announcement and rumored specs, new R5 was my better buy…except for one thing…I really missed Nikon!
This is completely subjective and my own rationale but I just always felt the pictures I took with my Z6 looked more pleasing to me in terms of how color and the image rendered out. All my Canon files left me feeling like I was trying to compare it to Nikon and never feeling satisfied.
Regardless, I rented an R5 to see how I’d like it and boy does that camera sing, especially with the glass, what a combo! But…the allure of Nikon and your recent vids about Nikon and Z6 II just kept playing in my mind.
So, made the financially painful choice to go back to Nikon and got the Z6 II and the full set of 2.8 zooms and couldn’t be happier to be back. Just really love the images and the lenses are optically amazing and I put them up against Canon and Sony as phenomenal lenses.
I’m here to stay with Nikon and while the autofocus isn’t quite as great as Canon’s R5, it’s pretty darn close and so now I’m joining in the fight to say it’s not as bad as a lot of folks make it out to be. Could it be better? For sure! Is it going to be? I truly believe so!
So, with being back in the Nikon fold and having the 2.8 zooms, I’m curious to see what you think the 100-400 will end up being aperture wise? The RF 100-500 for Canon is sublime and love the extra 100mm you got with it but the 4.5-7.1 was a little bit of a let down. Think Nikon will have a faster glass with the less reach or will it be equivalent if you had to guess?
Also, any other lens recommendations? I see you really love the 105 2.8 macro, I’ve never had a macro before so not sure it fits what I like to photograph and film but seems like a nice lens.
Been making some purchases at Kirk Photo to complement the recent purchases and got my eye on some other gear you’ve been recommending.
Final thought, have you ever shot with the 58mm Noct? I really want that lens as I imagine using it for talking head shots for video and it has to be incredible for astrophotography assuming you can live with manual only focus…curious on your takeaway if any?
Keep up the awesome work and great video for Canon R5, what an amazing body and great system but I can’t leave Nikon again…and that Z9…ooo wee can’t wait to see what it ends up being!
Glad to see you back brother, there is nothing like those Nikon colors, glass, how the camera feels in your hand, etc etc, cheers! :) And yes, I have a feeling Nikon is coming back with a vengeance with the Z9, new lenses etc.
I feel the same. I switched from a Z6 to an R5. The autofocus, video, etc are a step above. But the files feel flat and require a lot more work to get to a satisfying place, and even then still seem off compared to the Nikon. I would best quantify it as the Nikon files having more depth of contrast and dimensionality of subject matter, that isn’t reproduced with editing alone. . There is definitely a loss of dynamic range and the ability to squeeze files with the R5 vs the Z cameras. I also feel Canon files are heavier in the green/yellow spectrum vs more golden hues with the Nikon. I’m also disappointed with the price, size, and overall quality of the L lenses, with exception of the 70-200 f4. My RF 24-70 2.8 feels inferior to the Z 24-70 f4, with exception of a stop of light. I haven’t switched back as I acquired quite a few lenses already with RF mount but very interested to hear you felt the same.
@@felm.974 Appreciate it! I’m sure the Z9 will be wonderful and while I’m not the target demographic for it, I’m excited for what it means for future bodies. Plus…just never know, I might snag one regardless!
That being said, I’m more interested in spending the money on the 58mm Noct…such a tough debate!
@@typerlover It’s nice to know I’m not alone in my thoughts on the image files! Even Jared Polin, regardless of what people think of him personally, has consistently said Nikon files are his favorite even though he shoots Sony for stills and Canon for video.
I haven’t been able to articulate what it is but your descriptions are spot on, thank you!
I totally understand not wanting to make the move given how much you’ve invested in the system. It was a hard decision for me but I’m just the type of person where if something keeps nagging at me (my preference for Nikon image files), I have to follow through.
The good news is my net loss wasn’t too terrible as my local Camera Store matched MPB’s prices which were really high compared to other resale options and I had some “free” money from friends and family so the time was right for me personally.
Whether you stay with Canon or switch to Nikon, you’re still shooting with great equipment and that’s a good problem to have 😊
I've been seriously considering switching from my Nikon Z6 II to a Canon R6/R5. Mainly because of the autofocus for fast moving action, like my 4 year old daughter that won't sit still and sporting events, that lacks on the Nikon mirrorless cameras compared to Canon.
But everytime I was about to make the move to Canon I went to the R5/R6 FB groups I joined and I just couldn't do it. For the exact same reason you mention. The pictures are just so different. The Canon pictures somehow look flat and a bit 'lifeless' to me. I can't really put my finger on it.
I hear people say: "Just shoot in Raw, you can get that Nikon look afterwards." But I never see Canon pictures that actually look like Nikon's. Give me a blind comparison and in >90% of the cases I can tell within 2-3 seconds which one was shot with a Nikon and which one was shot using a Canon.
So eventually I ended up renting a R5 for a week. LOVED the camera but really disliked the pictures. To me the R5 is a 9 out of 10 camera wise and a 5 out of 10 picture wise. The Z6 II is a 7.5 out of 10 camera wise but a 9 out of 10 picture wise.
I know this is super subjective. Lots of people love the Canon look. But I decided to stick with Nikon and wait for them to catch up with the AF in future firmware updates or camera models.
For other Canon shooters out there,
the FV setting is worth a look on that camera. Nice review Hudson!
Fv all l use now should be in every camera.
Great video, Hudson. I recently moved back to Canon and the R5 after seven years with the Fuji system. I'd love to see you spend some time with the latest Fuji bodies-X or GFX. Many of the features you laud in the Canon, Nikon, or Sony bodies are actually more refined in the Fuji system. For example, in the focus stacking mode, you can set both a start point and an end point to limit the number of extra images taken when you don't need to go out to infinity. And Fuji allows the user to set up custom screens like Canon, but your control is much more granular. You can turn each item on or off individually rather than the preset groups you get on the R5. I love my R5 but there is a long list of things that I miss from Fuji.
Great coverage of amazing camera. But your shots show the same lifeless color DPRTV had in their initial testing of R5/6. Is it Adobe defaults or is there really something special about Nikon’s colors?
Nice review, I am a little bias since I shoot Canon but I have followed you channel for several years now and always enjoy you content even if it about Nikons or other brands of cameras. I always enjoy learning and I can depend on that from your videos. (I've been using the R5 for about 8 months)
Hello Hudson, Yes kit does not matter one bit, But having nice kit that you are proud of helps you. want to get out and take images. Keep well, keep safe and enjoy life.
I'm a Nikon D750 user Im weighing up buying the R6 - mainly for the flip screen superior AF and video redundancy. I'm just hanging on to see if the rumoured AF firmware update arrives in September for the Z6/7II.
I still much prefer my nikon z cameras to anything else. You'll miss the feel and ease of use. Rent both. I think you'll love the z6ii a lot more.
Waiting for my R3, already have an R5. Also you'll want some better lenses to go with that R5.
So your a canon r5 shooter now? That’s cool. Seems like an amazing camera. Do you have any interest in a Z9? I know it’s too early too comment just curious if you had any preliminary interest in it? Thanks
Thank you for your video! How does the image quality, dynamic range, and low-light autofocus compare to your Nikon Z7s?
An interesting review. thanks. I own both the sony a1 and Canon R5....whilst both are good , i actually find the bird/animal af far better on the R5 compared to the Sony, which often finds it hard to identify the eye, and drops off fairly easily if it can't lock-on, whereas the Canon will revert to the head if it can't find an eye more consistently....For very quick unexpected action, the Canon is far more reliable to aquire focus in the field and i have missed some great moments on the Sony. If Sony improved in this area with a future firmeware update, the camera would be really excellent....but as it stands its the Canon i rely on. In terms of camera gear and ones photography, in general i agree with you...gear does not make you a better'artist', but the eye af of the new cameras is a game changer....i have taken many grab shots where the focus latches onto the eye before i would ever have been able to do that before without eye af .Many of those images are the ones recently that i have sold..I also feel you work in tandem with tech....the possibilities are now more, so my creative vision has expanded along with the camera advancements......they can simply do more, so the creative posibilities are greater..
Well put!
Great vid. There is a reason Canon is #1 in sales. For the price , the R5 is the best bang for the dollar at this time. Hope Nikon comes out with something comparable in the not to distant future.
I agree about the camera being the best bang for the buck, but when you try to couple it up with a good, reasonably priced wildlife lens, where do you go? The Nikon 500PF on a D500 is a tough combination to beat for the money. I love the features and specs of the R5 and the price is reasonable, but the 100-500 lens just doesn't seem to be good enough for the feature set on the camera and $13k is too steep for me to move to the F4's. A nice TC friendly 500 or 600 PF type lense in the $4 to $6k range would pair up to this nicely, or even a 200-600 like Sony's. At this point, I have to hold out to see what the Z9 brings. $6.5k is more than I want to spend on a body, but if I don't have the expense of a new big lens, I am still better off. I am really hoping the Z9 brings along some nice updates to the Z6&7ii's as well as a top notch 200-600 zoom.
@@tc6912 You being you & a true Nikon guy, I wouldn't switch from Nikon if I was you unless it left you no choice. When I say best bang for the buck, it means someone out there looking for a new system. Also I hear you on the long lens F4 prices. The one good thing out of all of it is maybe a Nikon 600f4 vr2 might be had down the road at a great price used. Every now & then I see one for sale at a little less than 1/2 price from new. (that is if you even want to lug something that big around. Happy shooting!
Great video what WB it looks way off on your skin tones?
Yeah canon's auto WB did not make me as happy as Nikons for skin tones. No doubt.
If something is in the background and small (face e.g.) than it does not matter if any camera will find the eye! Face will be enough because of depth of field will be enough to have all parts of the face sharp, imho. Thanks for the nice video, but Nikon Z/ii has the better price/quality relation. I stopped working with Canon in 2012, because they did not had any new invetions.
I also use nikom but love canon
Damn I hope the RF 70-200 II has internal movement only. The current looks so bad!
Yeah, not interested. I'm sure it's a fine camera, but I shoot a Z7 and don't intend to move to another system (although I'm thinking about adding the Fuji GFX100S to my kit).
Having owned 5 systems in the last 25 years, with mostly of the time a Canon shooter in the film and dslr era, finally I gave Nikon a try this year. I got a Z6, sold it and bought a Z7. Yes, the image quality is really great, the build quality is also very good (I don´t like the plastic cover on the bottom, the battery door without a spring is weird, and those FN buttons and the release lens button made in a crappy plastic). However, the ergonomics are not that great, the grip is too small in width and length, and I have small hands. I would prefer to have a grip like this R5, like a dslr grip. More on the image quality, probably the main reason why people like me and the long time Nikon shooters, move to Nikon or stay with Nikon. It seems the files have more info to work with, more robust. But I must say, the WB (auto) is probably one of the worst (like Sony) on the market. 70% of the times is completely off, and I remember Canon and Olympus that 70% of the times are spot on, with Olympus being the best one in this regard, probably with the best colours in the market. Lenses.. well, the 2.8s are great optically, but after 3 years of this system, the selection are too sparce. They don't have a Z lens with a shred of originality like Canon did (yes, the Noct is the only one) Is just more of the same F mount with improved image quality. Even in the exterior design of the lenses, it's uninspiring, with no element to highlight them, with a clear difference to the F mount, with beautiful lenses and clearly distinct between the various classes. Now, that we know the Z9, seems to be a great camera, and for that price, can be appealing to Nikon sport shooters to stay or come back to Nikon, I hope so, because a brand like Nikon deserves more. A final note, the Z9 have one simple thing that put me away of one day buying the camera, the lack of a mechanical shutter. I know that probably is the future, and when the global shutter arrives (…and the Z9 doesn´t have one, what is even worse) there is no logical reason to keep the mechanical shutter… but like many things in life, logic is not always the right choice, and for me, part of the process of making an image, is the shutter sound and feeling of the mechanical movement inside the camera, that enhance the passion of shooting.
Does it still Cook in 8K ?? Why no ISO 64?? = Pro camera ? Teleconvertor for Canon RF 70-200 2.8 to go on R5. Can it shoot long exposures longer than 30 Secs? It is a great camera though > My mates love theirs >> very popular in S Africa but the Z7II eats it up with regards to the questions I asked
I'm photographing and I actually want a camera for that, when you need a pro video camera, buy a pro video camera. Canon is using ISO 50, mentioned as L (low) in the menu since decades. The Bulb timer can be set for exposures longer than 30 sec. By adjusting the menu settings specific settings are easy and fast accessible.
R5 can be made to go to iso 50 in the settings.You can shoot long exposures beyond 30 seconds . You are correct about the teleconverter however. If you have a a ninja v monitor there is a trick to shoot indefinitely. Shut off the lcd and evf. I have not overheated at all as of yet. Have a great day
l too love my Z but l must admit l turn to the R6 when l can it just better set up l feel for ease of use particularly the flip screen but the Z is just so well weather sealed and bombproof and so long as my subject is still the autofocus is stellar won't be giving up my Z.
You are a lucky guy. Great family shots. Could be my family 30 years ago. Right down to the gorgeous Golden. I don't have the lifetime of Nikon DNA you do. I will have to purchase a body and all new lens. I am researching what gear to purchase in my somewhat unique situation - age 70 and about to retire, also stopped slr work more than 30 years ago and I never got into digital slrs. I'm have a fair amount of knowledge but I am not a professional. Still, I want to get gear that will keep me interested and moving forward with my skills in my golden years. I have to say, while I am predisposed to Nikon, I am starting to lean toward Canon. Maybe the Canon R6.
I don't think you'll be disappointed at all by either
I have both the R5 and R6. I really love both. For most things I use the R5 but for low light situations I usually go with the R6.
@@pianofinger Most people here are probably pretty advanced, but, for me, a really helpful video would cover this: You are an intermediate amateur, you have lost all your old bodies and lenses, you are purchasing a completely new mirrorless system. What are the first few lens to get so you have most situations covered.
@@robgerety my first couple were the 24-70 and 70-200 since I started with weddings for friends and concerts. Then the GAS started and I filled up the bag with a lot more lenses for pet projects and video
@@pianofinger My expectation is that I will use this new camera mostly for wildlife, (including birds), and landscapes. I wonder if to start I might be best served with a 14-35 and a 100-400/500. Later add in something in the middle. I'll probably continue to use my iphone for snapshots and family videos.
Photographers concern themselves too much with equipment. So much can be done with the basics. Focus on the work, creating the images. Replace equipment as it is TRULY needed. Exceptions are equipment reviewers (DP Review, etc.) Photographers actually mind-think themselves into be disappointed with their work because they don't have the latest body or lens. This is rarely a valid justification for disappointment.
Use Canon 1dx Mark iii and Nikon D5/D6 but wary of mirrorless as the size and battery life is off putting
10bit or 8bit it's nothing do with dynamic range. It's basically color depth.
'sup, Wednesday crew! ;-)
I know that LR still has no access to Canon camera profiles but the colour is just horrible…The whole point for buying a Canon camera for years was excellent colour but until this is sorted people will have to use their own presets or buy some professional ones. I don’t really know what’s going on but I am most definitely not running all of my photos via DPP to get something nice…Even C1 is only half decent. And as a Canon shooter I do have to say that colour coming straight out of new Nikons looks amazing and is a far better starting point for any editing.
I concur that the Nikon color is my favorite out there. I don't find sony or Canon horrid, but I much prefer nikon straight out of the camera.
Most Nikon that jumped ship would usually jump to Fuji and Sony, seldom do I see Nikonian Jump to Canon. That is why Fuji and Sony are getting bigger market share from Mostly Nikon’s share.
Not about to jump, but if I did, I'd go to the one I like using the most. Having shot the A1 and R5 back to back, it'd be the R5. I still like my Nikons better, but build quality and ease of use are huge for me. The R5 is a joy to use and built like a tank as Nikon and Canon tend to do.
@@HudsonHenryPhoto ,
Well, you don’t have to merry with a perfect women. You merry one that you can get along and makes you happy. Nikon Canon Sony, they are more or less down to personal preference, not so much of technical issue that cannot be over come.
My R5 rocks because I don't have a tripod.
The Canons have flat colors that don’t pop like the Nikons. Especially in the skin tones.
Yeah, we've had this discussion in the thread. There is no doubt that Nikon's color science is tops. Another reason I still love the Nikons. And you're certainly right about the skin tones. But that said... The R5 is a wonderful beast of a mirrorless offering for the Canon folks. It's a very fun camera that gets so much right.