Did you know that Shawn Mendez was introduced to a lot of people through the Disney channel. He was on the descendants soundtrack and the Disney Channel would play that song a lot on Disney Channel. Neither I or my friends had heard of Shawn Mendes at the time and through the Disney Channel his voice just kind of stuck in my brain.
Teen beach movie could have been the next hsm, if they didn’t completely botch the ending of the second movie. Also descendants honestly should have skipped the musical aspect, they should have taken the frenemies and geek charming route imo.
Very true but as a dancer I personally loved descendants as a musical, I loved the coreo honestly in a lot of the movie considering it was a made for TV movie... and really is some of the best choreography I’ve seen from Disney movies or shows other than like, step touches and running around with arms... like I really enjoyed there cast actually being dancers
YES! My friend and I were fasn of Teen Beach Movie (like, we LOVED the movies), but we hated the end of the second movie so bad, we wanted to write a third movie wherethey just remembered everything and all of that. Like, we were so mad at that ending. Why they did that?
I figured it out the few times I had to babysit kids or just happened to peek in at the TV channel or videos on UA-cam (post 2010 DC), but it's only just now that I'm beginning to understand not only was I right (the DC I grew up with [~2003-2008] was another Renaissance for the company), I was also very lucky to live through it! 1/30/21, 5:33p
Especially if you're old enough for the tail end of the animated Disney renaissance (Lion King, Hunchback, Mulan, etc.) and the D-com renaissance from 2005 to 2012.
Didn't realise? It's not like everyone on the internet automatically thinks the stuff they grew up with was the best. Only recent Disney show I've watched is Andi Mack but it's far better than the mediocre shows I grew up watching
@@knoxnight6472 Huh did Mo just get back with Sam solely for the sake of Charlie's character development? That's some layers. I like to think of it like her taste in men shouldn't be total trash.
This is so random but I’m actually in this video LOL. I was an extra in the radio rebel party scene at 33:05. While the movie is a tad cringe, the actors were some of the nicest I’ve ever encountered from Disney.
@@jemimajanvier4706 haha it’s so funny that the movies gone viral in the last year! Not many people used to know what I was talking about when I’d say I’d been an extra in it!
i like Descendants but i will NEVER forgive how they did Ever After High so dirty. they literally copied their idea, WORD FOR WORD, and stole so much profit that EAH had to stop creating new episodes entirely.
I got really upset when EAH stopped, being a avid fan of it since the show stated running, but it wasnt until recently that i found out that Disney was the reason for that. Technically its not fair, EAH came first, and had a large fanbase, so why rip off the idea, and cause the franchise and series to shut down? Still kinda annoys me that it stopped due to Disney, yet again being the big bad company taking mouse that it is, and ripping off ideas from already existing shows. Soz for my big rant 😅😅
yes! eah also had better representation. excuse me, but having multiple poc AND the main character be lgbt IN CANNON...oh wow and deep storylines with plots and cares about their characters! eah is where it was at! (also love how they connected it to monster high, which i also quite like).
EAH was really the best, especially the dolls which are the best commercial dolls I’ve seen out there, and it was so sad that Descendants made it go out of production
I've been saying forever that 2006 was the greatest year in DC history. Hannah Montana, Cheetah Girls 2 and HSM alone shut it DOWN. I'm sick just thinking of the executive Christmas bonuses that year.
2006 was a great year especially with That's So Suite Life of Hannah Montana. But the 2000s were definitely their golden age! Their actors regularly guest starred in talk shows WHILE their shows were still running, HSM and Hannah Montana released their own movies in theaters, even 5 minute shows coming on between are superior than what we have now. Nowadays, the shows range awful to decent. Raven's Home is a mixed bag but Sydney To The Max and all the animated shows definitely picks up the slack.
I wanted to be a Cheetah Girl so bad and I remember when HSM and Hannah Montana was EVERYWHERE. I’m so glad I grew up during the golden age but yet I still remember some of the films that came out before the golden age.
@@angelinaramsey9241 impossible, it isn't the most iconic, High school musical and cheetah girls are WAY but WAY more iconic and profitable than it, even camp rock
What’s that? A hat? A crazy funky junky hat Overslept, hair unslightly, tryna look like Keira Knightly We’ve been there, we’ve done that, we see right through that funky hat I had too sorry😭😭
I feel that Bella Thorne marked the point in Disney's history where a Disney star was a mixture of a celebrity and an influencer, after beginning to appear in the channels of UA-cam influencer like Tana Mongeau.
not really, after she left Disney I think her last show was shake it up and she started coming out on movies such as blended and alexanders bad day she was basically doing her own thing it wasn't until later she started going "good girl gone bad" and started doing stupid shit on social media and she stole from a lot of people as well so :/
frealll she could've been an A-List celebrity since I watch a good amount of great movies starring her (outside disney). but then she starts creating beef with C-Listers like Tana Mongeau....
why is NO ONE talking about the masterpiece that was Let It Shine? it came out somewhere during the lemonade mouth era in 2012, but almost no one talks about it or how good it was. it was my favourite dcom as a kid, next to lemonade mouth
I think what made Disney go bad is that u can literally see in plain sight that there audiences just get younger and eyiunger each decade and era of Disney stars like right now there preteen and teen audience is starting to come back because of Disney plus but the actually channel just feels like it’s for elementary school kids and nothing past that demographic but I definitely think social media is the reason Disney audiences got into a younger age
yeah none of my middle school friends watch Disney channel anymore. We used to in when we were younger and even in 2018. But in 2019 and currently none of their shows now are popular. Me and my middle school friends talk about how stupid the zombies movies are and how Disney’s current viewers are basically fetus’s. Literally Disney Junior has more iconic shows than Disney Channel right now. Even when ravens home came out people watched it and me and my friends talked about the cast etc but nowadays even though I think the show is still airing none of us watch it and it’s also not as popular as it used to be, Disney Channel in general isn’t anymore
@@hadassah_g Omg The way you feel about zombies Is the way I used to feel about Teen Beach Movie, but now I like the movie (just not the whole evil villain stuff, that was weird)
Yea like Disney shows and movie were really good back in the 2000s and their movies were iconic like high school musical or lemonade mouth. Shows were also really good at the time. But now it like they are reusing ideas for episodes in different shows or movies
Disney used to be more creative back then - romance was typically the subplot. Now, DCOMs are romantic comedies - a straight white male and a female (typically white) in the lead focused on romance.
@@hadassah_g same, i was into disney 2012-2016 (i was born in 2005) and i've rewatched some of the old shows and they're not as good as i remember but still better than that awful zombies movie
Literally HSM was so renowned that the Academy awards had gotten backlash because they had snubbed Lucas Grabeel and Ashley Tisdale in I Want it All in HSM Senior Year. Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens got to perform with Beyoncé at the Oscars so like they were mega stars
exactly! Gotta Kick It Up(latina cheerleaders), Jump In(black people double dutching), Buffalo Dreams(white boy learning about first nations), Cheetah Girls(black girls, latina and white girls making their dream come true), etc..
I feel like nostalgia is a big thing right now for young adults around my age (I'm 24), so I feel like disney+ is the perfect move. How many of us did just like you during quarantine and rewatched their favorite dcom or disney channel shows? I subscribed to disney+ literally 10 days into quarantine in march and rewatched i don't even know how many shows.
okie but me doe. it brings back so many memories of eating cereal and watching those movies and tv shows. when i rewatched some vivid happy memories started to flood back. i love nostalgia
@@samd8872 im not sure what their original comment was, but im guessing this is the rap battle they were talking about ua-cam.com/video/avaeQOD0eHI/v-deo.html
Am I the only one who actually like the ending of teen beach movie? 👀 it’s so unexpected and unique, leaves the fantasy part for the viewer to remember but not the characters, as a secret that we cannot tell them ... it feels very magical
What is the obsession with social media concepts? It's like boomers trying to entertain teens. I'm a teen and my interests and other teens vary a lot. I still don't know how they thought they could recreate I carly with bizardwark shit
Honestly all disney has to do FOR STARTERS is diversity and reperesentation. Then what they actually have to do is care about what they are producing. As well as take more risks with new ideas THAT ARN'T ROMANCE and that arn't about finding friends but rather mantaining them and learning to love them and go through hardships with them. Because believe it or romance isn't such a big deal in highschool anymore. Maybe a crush now and then but not a relationship. Also if you want a soundtrack. Literally just don't saturate the music. And as the video said let kt serve a pirpoise to the plot. If tik-tok has taught me anything is that there are people willing to invest the time in making good music and understand how to play with sounds. And how to egache listeners. I do agree with your point. They should do more reaserch on their target demographic. But that's allso a difrent issue, disney really has no teen targeted movies or TV shows now a days. And that oisses me off beviase i think they couñd do some really interesting stuff. Like they did with Andy Mack. Which is an amaizing show
The 00’s was definitely an iconic time for Disney channel. That’s so Raven, Lizzie McGuire, Suite life, Wizards, Hannah Montana, HSM, Chertah girls, Camp Rock all iconic. Literally HSM soundtracks being top sellers, having tours & a theatrical release as well as Hannah Montana is just so iconic
Descendants is kinda overrated, the first movie was kinda good but everyone hypes so much the second one when the storyline is literally “Oh the Girl that wanted to be good and live well now wants to go the isle she was stuck her whole life only because she can’t be herself on Auradon even though she can change that”
Starstruck does not deserve this SLANDER! He- He sang the hero song with the guitar! She did uh he I mean he They were at the beach and they explored the city together!!!!
@@FLASHTHRIVE I think it's because of the wattpad appeal to it. when it came out I was 13 and I was a fangirl (obviously) and let's be honest the whole plot is a fanfiction and it was every girls dream to meet their favorite celebrity and have them fall in love with them.
@@FLASHTHRIVE some songs are good, and my fangirling at the time really gripped on the plot like someone else said : famous persona falling for the fan. I still like to listen to "hero", "starstruck" and "walking on sunshine"
@@ForrestFox626 omg yes, teen beach movie was/is my favorite dcom ever and the second movie was soooo disappointed, I wanted to punch someone on the face when I saw that ending
@@ForrestFox626 Fr the sequel had some good songs, but the plot was terrible. I hate that they made Mack and Brady forget each other. It should’ve just been one movie.
To be fair to Descendants, in a traditional musical (plays, classic Disney films like A Little Mermaid) the characters sing only when they have really strong emotions, not bc it's time for a performance. Having a plot-central reason for singing is just a DCOM thing (which I love). Some songs in Descendants might qualify as characters having really strong emotions, but some... not so much, in which case there is no reason at all for them to be singing
This is what I was coming to comment about! ~technically/classically~ speaking, most of the songs in HSM (for example) are sung in a performance context. Only Stick to the Status Quo, When There Was Me and You, and We’re All In This Together fit the non-DCOM musical mold. By this logic, Descendants makes total sense.
I only feel like the singing was unnecessary in D3 because they didnt need to sing when they fought the knights, evie didnt need to sing when she had to kiss doug, mal didn't have to sing when everyone turned to stone, etc.
I actually adore Descendants. The first film came out when I was 13 and I instantly fell in love. All my friends and I would sing the songs around campus and we even recreated a scene for a class project. I'm now 18 almost 19 and I'm still obsessed with the whole franchise, including the music.
@@evastood4539 honestly, i can't watch Geek Charming anymore knowing the history behind the actors. makes me feel uncomfortable. starstruck gave me my wattpad dreams in a movie, so it'll always be a favorite for me.
i was a lil on the older side (18 lol) when descendants came out but it was the first dcom in years that had me excited and I liked the cast. its a guilty pleasure for sure
That's interesting because it came out when I was 14, so I felt wayyy too old for it and it seems absolutely cringe to me lol. I would probably have a better opinion of it if I had been older or younger
@@rebekahw.8990 i thought it was cringe but it was lowkey refreshing and felt a little like old Disney that I grew up with. and as I said its a guilty pleasure so I'm aware its far from a masterpiece but it was entertaining
@@vanillaar655 Yeah, after watching this video I can see that, I just hadn’t given it much thought before. And I have to admit what’s my name is a bop lol
The reason the jonas brothers/hannah montana episode did well was BECAUSE it was right after hsm 2, which had the highest rated premiere. And sterling didn't sing in star struck, someone dubbed for him just like zac efron it was the same guy drew seeley. BTW I want to commend you for saying "Amatangelo" right. That is my married last name and it is kind of funny seeing people struggle saying it
@@TishaMae No he did sing Starstruck. When they casted him it was already just a week before shooting so there was no time to record the songs so the demo versions were used similar to Zac Efron in the first HSM but he did record the title song Startruck. Not the others though. And it wasn't Drew Seeley. It was a dude named Drew Ryan Scott.
Actually, descendants is based of a book, but I forgot the author. I never really cared for eah, I thought the design was to bright for me, but that’s just me 🤷♀️
@Mochi Potato you know what, I don’t feel like arguing with you, and the author was not trying to rip it off! Also, there are over 7 million people in America, so we’re bound to have the same ideas sometimes, and just because something has a similar story, does not automatically make it a ripoff. I just don’t like EAH, just cause the colors are a bit too bright for me, and a couple of the characters were annoying. I’m going to keep liking descendants, and you can’t stop me. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, and have a nice day ✌️❤️
to everyone in this comment thread you can like descendants but it is the reason they stopped making EAH since they didnt want to compete with disney and I thought the show was cute
@@gracetherese I guess that depends on the person. For me, its not nostalgia those older movies were written way better. Storylines were better, concepts were more original, and not everything needed a musical moment.....
@@0104brit that reminds me of all those disney original movies like luck of the irish, eddie’s million dollar cook-off, the 13th year, etc. those were my favorites because it never had musical numbers. & like the video suggested: never talk down to your audience. those movies were memorable to me because it never talked down to kids. having musical numbers every other scene that doesn’t make sense is a way to talk down on kids. HSM & camp rock are good examples of not talking down on kids & the musical numbers are appropriate to the theme of the film
To me Descendents doesn’t have a really good story compared to there older movies but it is popular bc of the actors in that movie and even if the story isn’t the best kids are still gonna watch it bc of the style and actors, also the songs in the movie are catchy and make kids easily sing to it and get stuck in there heads. So even if the story isn’t as good as older Disney movies but kids will still watch it.
I’m not gonna lie I really found it to be an interesting concept, I mean for one it’s got more of a conflict than love triangles or friendship issues, there’s teenagers being pressured from two sides and one of which is literal evil, which is nicely dark for a Disney movie. As for the main characters, there’s the appeal of moral ambiguities because it really does represent what people are more like irl. It’s not all some ‘oh I’m an innocent girl and all the trouble and turmoil comes out of some big misunderstanding’, or even the common ‘everyone hates me because I’m pretty and not like other girls’. Lastly, the concept being centred around females and their friendships with eachother - the empowerment! The guys really take a backseat in the storyline and it’s a role reversal of sorts; often the female (main-but-still-somehow-side) characters get little to no character dévelopement and just get dobbed off with a guy at the end for their happy ending. Mal and Evie, though! Evie realised her worth and dumped a prick, Mal was never dependant on her boyfriend for happiness and left him when he became overbearing (putting herself first as she should). Ik i went overboard but I love descendants way too much lmao
This video essay is so well put together. Can’t believe this is the first video on this channel. I knew next to nothing about DCOM and Disney Channel properties produced post-2009, so it was really intriguing to see the progression analyzed this way. I look forward to future videos.
You just gave me a list of movies to watch to revist my childhood. Also, from an Argentinian, the reason as to why Disney channel try to make the HSM was because the only tv produced "telenovelas" for teens, have not been a thing since the early-mid 2000s, seeing an oportunity to repeat the teenstar-program in latinamerica countries. Ergo, we have Violetta (tini stoessel), Soy Luna (karol sevilla) etc.
@@FLASHTHRIVE as a now young adult that grew up watching those sitcoms I widely recommend you watch Violetta first, its success was much larger and both the story and songs are amazing
This is amazing. Literally mirrors my thoughts on disney through the years. (Except for Starstruck, lol. I love it) Really excited to see more discourse on this and similar topics
@@FLASHTHRIVE Starstruck is literally my favourite movie of all time for some reason. I think I find it an easy film to watch: at the start, you immediately have two relatable characters in Sara who is obsessed with a young singer, and Jessica who is annoyed by the constant buzz around him (and then it gets a little deeper later on because Jessica tells Christopher that she likes his music but isn't 'obsessed' with him, something many people have related to with fandom culture). The Olson family then travelling to California then sets up a bit of a background theme of the movie in that it's a trip around California (because you see a lot of people's favourite parts of California such as the Hollywood sign, Malibu beaches, Sunset Boulevard, Beverley Hills, etc) and this - at least for me - feels like I have been somewhat immersed in a California vacation. That whole section ties in with Christopher and Jessica awkwardly meeting and the initial perception that Christopher is a spoiled punk while Jessica is a bratty younger sister, but you then see how they slowly become more sentimental with each other and then (by accident) go around LA together like best friends on vacation together. They then proceed to fall out over her grandma's car, and then Jessica storms away but it's desperately obvious that Christopher wants to try and fix what he did wrong. However, you can still clearly see how Christopher thinks he is a 'star' and Jessica is trying to get that through to him, and then he eventually starts to get it. Of course, you get the mandatory 'breakup' scene when they get back to the beach after their (also mandatory) near-kiss scene. There's also that whole storyline with the movie he was going to star in and that director, it kind of allows the movie to be a bit of an exposé of Hollywood (which is, of course, ironic coming from Disney) and the interview where he throws Jessica under the bus completely, which then leads to Stubby basically forcing him to rectify the situation. The movie then ends on a sweet note with the grand gesture of Christopher travelling out to Michigan to make amends and ask her out, showing how his and Jessica's characters have developed. I know I kind of just summarised the movie but I found that the easiest way to explain all the themes that I enjoy in the movie. I will say that a lot of those perceptions came to me after watching Starstruck multiple times (I've probably watched it like 15-20 times) so I can see why people don't like it or find it 'cringe' based on not watching it many times. However, I never really get the criticism of it being unrealistic because it obviously is unrealistic but a lot of other successful DCOMs are, and that's often the beauty of a work of fiction. I know I'm like nearly two years late with this but I just thought I'd offer my Starstruck perspective from the opposite aisle :)
The reality is that nowadays everyone can watch their favourite show/genre on their own. Parents don't have to watch the same shows as their kids so now they've dumbed down the kids' programs
Oh that Freaky Friday remake of the remake wasn't good. It was so boring 😴 The Avalon High movie was completely awful too. The book was fantastic but the movie 😒
I know! I'm pretty sure it's the only Disney movie with a black-led cast and it actually had amazing representation, especially with a dark-skinned actress being the romantic interest of the main characters, which is a ridiculous rarity in wider media. that, and the plot, characters and songs were really great too!
Halloweentown is the High School Musical of Halloween movies (has a large impact, however if you look really close they aren’t the perfect movies, but you understand why they were so popular) Invisible Sister is the Lemonade Mouth of Halloween DCOM’s (has some typical DCOM tropes but was still a little bit more realistic than the typical DCOM)
I've come to realize that the Halloweentown series isn't something I hold dear to my heart. That's mainly because as a kid, I never got to see the 2nd and 3rd movies, every time they came on thru reruns, I ALWAYS missed them and had to eat dinner or do something else, it was annoying. I only saw the 1st and 4th movies as a kid, surprising right? So in early 2016 I watched all 4 for completion sake and honestly, Halloweentown 2 is the best in the series.
Descendants has such a special place in my heart. As someone who grew up in the golden age, I was in middle school, going into high school when it came out. I was bullied a lot at that time, so I dreamt of being as cool as Mal with purple hair and magic 😂 I wanted to be the pretty, but edgy daughter of a villain with magic powers. After years, Descendants was the reason I returned to Disney channel for a short time. Starstruck was a guilty pleasure of mine tho 🤧 all teen girls had the dream of having their favorite celebrity fall in love with them. As someone who spent their middle school years on Wattpad, it was one of the movies i rewatched a lot! I honestly feel like it would’ve been better if it dove deeper into the pressures and hardships of being in the public eye
Dude this was so so so good! I've been so interested in high school musical and its success for such a long time, it's just so eternally fascinating to me as a pop culture concept. This video really deepened my interest for DCOM as a whole. Great work!
Also, kid's attention span is a key factor in entertainment now. You can see it decline from kids wanting to watch 2 hours movies to 25-minute episodes, to 8-minute youtube videos, to the app we all know and love/hate, tik tok 20-sec videos. So its becoming way and WAY harder for Disney to make entertainment worthy of their time--
I think the funniest part for me was realizing how much Wattpad like many of this stories were even with the crazy money for better writters, at the end the music reamin for me more than the movies. Also great video =D
Is no one gonna talk about how Disney actually DECLINED in diversity?? 💀💀💀 like I remember that a lot of DCOMS in the past had main characters of different backgrounds like Stuck in the Suburbs, obviously the Cheetah Girls. There was also often sort of a hip hop/pop crossover element which was perfect for the 2000s. Even if the dcoms in the past didn’t have as much diversity, they were at least still interesting to watch for all demographics. But Disney is so vanilla now and all the POC characters are just the token best friend or the enemy
I feel like you just explained my childhood to me... Because I just looked at a chronological list of DCOMs and Lemonade Mouth was literally the last one I ever saw
I'm a huge Descendants fan. I'm also a huge theater nerd. I can't stand Freaky Friday. But the Descendants stage show is really good. But I think each era of the DCOMs have their classics/strongholds and their terrible ones. But I think it varies person to person on what they are.
@@FLASHTHRIVE One of the prerelease productions is on here somewhere. Otherwise the script and demo tracks can be read/listened to for free on MTI (Musical Theater International) 's website.
@@talithacrow7530 I got to the mom's song while trying to bake and was turned off as a plus sized woman. Someone recommended it for consideration on my play reading committee and another member said it was the only show she's ever walked out of. And she was there for a friend.
@@courtneyernste4341 I’m not a parent yet, but I do love Heidi’s voice, and as a trans girl with a mother who is disappointed that in me because I’m trans and I always think if I can do something right maybe she’ll love me, I really relate to Ellie, especially because there have been multiple times when my mothers lied to me, but she’s never owned up to it
@@musiclover_kb4913 Let it Shine is CRIMINALLY underrated, like so many songs slapped, the characters and plot was so interesting ... justice for this movie!
@@thatqueenG Of course it is, they should've let the cast do a concert tour, it would've been amazing. It actually had the same director as Jump In (Paul Hoen) and even tho he's white, he succeeded in portraying the characters in both films as people first, who just so happen to be black. Cheetah Girls became a real-life group, High School Musical got a concert tour to support the movie but neither Let it Shine or Lemonade Mouth got any of those opportunities? That ain't fair.
Omg I love. This some high quality stuffs. So many good moments where I hella laughed lool. Amazing job to everyone who worked on this!! Video essays r the future!! I’m excited to see what’s next for the channel :3 ❤️
My favorite dcom when I was going up was The Color of Friendship. I remember waiting to watch it and getting so excited when I was it was going to play. It was around the time I was 13 (2012) that I started noticing that it was rarely played. I felt like the messaging was lost. This is why they say never talk down to kids. I was 5 years old when I watched Color of Friendship for the first time and I understood a lot of it. Don't get me wrong, I still watched the huge dcoms like HSM and Camp Rock. I think Lemonade Mouth is great and the Cheetah Girls 2 I watch all the time, the music for both of these movies slap, but I was always waiting for that film that would make me feel the way The Color of Friendship did. It's just disappointing to me.
There r some other DCOMS that told more grounded stories and were closer to realism. Tiger Cruise, Tru Confessions, Going to the Mat and Miracle On Lane 2 are examples of that
WOW is the first time that I see somebody that actually thinks about context and time(what kids or teenagers nowadays like) before judging new dcoms.👏👏👏👏👏
Kinda hilarious how my biggest nostalgic DCOM was from the year after the nostalgia era. The Cheetah Girls was the first DCOM I watched the premiere of, instead of reruns. Seeing Phantom of the Megaplex in this video DID smack me in the face though, so that's definitely an accurate name for those years lmao
I love the research and passion that went into making this video! Also, I just want to say that Let it Shine is one of my personal favorite movies that I feel is kind of underrated. It is a remarkably good film that does a great job of showcasing the gospel, Christian rap, and regular rap scenes in Atlanta (what they looked like in 2012 anyways) as well as showing the importance of being your authentic self. Maybe it just resonates with me because I turned ten a few days after it came out and therefore was the target audience, but the music is genuinely great without a doubt- even ignoring any nostalgia I may have. Also, the line from Guardian Angel that says "we just preached to different crowds" is always something I've resonated with as a "progressive Christian" and someone who often had/still has disagreements about the role of contemporary music in church. Finally, the line "I might be a bus boy, but you just served" from Moment of Truth is simply iconic! I rest my case.
Let it Shine is so damn good, it came out a few months before I turned 18 but seriously, the soundtrack SLAPS. It was so underrated, along with Lemonade Mouth, both movies should've let their respective casts do a concert tour
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned Glee popped up in the identity crisis phase since that was inspired by the HSM, Camp Rock and stole a good chunk of Disney's audience. Also the Cheetah Girls CD on Hollywood was a banger!
The only kids channel that has successful well in my eyes atleast transition to this decade is Nickelodeon cuz I had it as background noise one day and I noticed they have a lot of social media stars on there channel which is kinda smart because social media stars are the new teens stars like Jojo siwa Annie lablance Kenzie Ziegler and Charlie damelio
I loved how this video was made. This has to be the best video ever made on this. It would be pretty cool if you made more stuff on the Disney stars themselves on the rise and now or more Disney history. Nickelodeon would be cool too. I subbed because you did a lot of hard work and told good info. This a big question though for a video. Why are all the Disney stars have great talent but are hidden to stars like Ariana Grande. For example, Sabrina Carpenter is amazing artist but, all the time people say in the comments she is underatted singer that should be seen. That would be a great concept for a video and do you think that any of them will stay hidden or grow? Anyone reading this, stay safe and have better day
i was in elementary school from 2005-2011, right in time for the golden age and it was crazy how popular disney channel was. all my favorite singers, all the music i listened to, they were all from disney channel. i wanted to be hannah montana when i grew up. i kept watching once and a while until 2015ish, but the last dcom i liked was let it shine. the last shows i got into were good luck charlie and shake it up. i’d watch the newer shows they put out when i was in middle school like dog with a blog and jessie, and even in high school like girl meets world or i didn’t do it but really after 2011 i spent more time watching reruns of suite life of zack and cody, hannah montana, and wizards than i did watching new shows. i always thought i grew out of the channel, but clearly i still wanted to watch it. i just didn’t like the new shows lol
Those shows are what's really keeping the lights on in the channel. Tho, Sydney To The Max and Secrets of Sulfur Springs are good so far. And depending on your sense of humor and patience, Raven's Home is decent.
@@koni00004 their tv animated stuff over the past decade has been great, gravity falls, tangled the series, amphibia and my favorite the owl house have all had amazing stories, lovely animation and pretty complex characters for disney channel (also there's eda and bill cypher, they make everything amazing)
That is what is currently carrying the channel now. All the live actions are shit except maybe Raven's home which isn't the best but it's probably the only watchable show rn.
I find it really interesting that Disney Channel movies were ever marketed towards teens. I was a preteen during the golden Disney era (supposedly when the movies were the best) and I remember even then thinking the movies were pretty childish, and I wasn't the only one who thought that. Around the age of 12 pretty much everyone in my grade had grown out of Disney Channel and the few who didn't kept it pretty low key. There wasn't even a stigma around it, we all just kind of agreed that the movies were watered down and written for young kids. I find it interesting that the golden age of Disney movies are considered so good because I'm not sure they ever actually were, they were just more popular.
I don't consider 2006-2011 the Golden Age at all.... Just cuz of the money and popularity Disney Channel and the stars gained???? Nope. A lot of the movies just weren't it. Some? Sure, but it's considered a Golden Era because Disney Channel was getting hella money and that's it. Not because the movies were really touching.
I saw invisible sister on Netflix (when it was on) a little while ago...I kept up with DCOMs more than I realized, but I’m not shocked lol. I hope Geek Charming gets a mention, I think it was one of the better/good modern DCOM’s.
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Disney+ is the new Disney channel. That’s where they’ll start making the stars. Look at Joshua basset and Olivia.
Did you know that Shawn Mendez was introduced to a lot of people through the Disney channel. He was on the descendants soundtrack and the Disney Channel would play that song a lot on Disney Channel. Neither I or my friends had heard of Shawn Mendes at the time and through the Disney Channel his voice just kind of stuck in my brain.
I think your channel is gonna go viral
omg i saw the picture for the video and i wanted lemonade omg
omg what do you have aginst sabrina-
Teen beach movie could have been the next hsm, if they didn’t completely botch the ending of the second movie. Also descendants honestly should have skipped the musical aspect, they should have taken the frenemies and geek charming route imo.
Exactly !!!!
Very true but as a dancer I personally loved descendants as a musical, I loved the coreo honestly in a lot of the movie considering it was a made for TV movie... and really is some of the best choreography I’ve seen from Disney movies or shows other than like, step touches and running around with arms... like I really enjoyed there cast actually being dancers
disagree with the descendants part cause the soundtracks absolutely bop
YES! My friend and I were fasn of Teen Beach Movie (like, we LOVED the movies), but we hated the end of the second movie so bad, we wanted to write a third movie wherethey just remembered everything and all of that. Like, we were so mad at that ending. Why they did that?
@@MaryBethNaLambreta yes I hated the ending 🙄🙄
Didn't realize I grew up in the "golden age" of Disney. I feel so lucky lol.
I figured it out the few times I had to babysit kids or just happened to peek in at the TV channel or videos on UA-cam (post 2010 DC), but it's only just now that I'm beginning to understand not only was I right (the DC I grew up with [~2003-2008] was another Renaissance for the company), I was also very lucky to live through it!
1/30/21, 5:33p
Especially if you're old enough for the tail end of the animated Disney renaissance (Lion King, Hunchback, Mulan, etc.) and the D-com renaissance from 2005 to 2012.
samee
right??
Didn't realise? It's not like everyone on the internet automatically thinks the stuff they grew up with was the best.
Only recent Disney show I've watched is Andi Mack but it's far better than the mediocre shows I grew up watching
"She's so gone" will forever remain *the female character development song*
don't forget that she made out with the guy at the end anyway lmao
BYE I literally love that song so much
Valentina Mercado I know, that pissed me offffffffffff she deserved betterrrr
ABSOLUTELY
@@knoxnight6472 Huh did Mo just get back with Sam solely for the sake of Charlie's character development? That's some layers.
I like to think of it like her taste in men shouldn't be total trash.
This is so random but I’m actually in this video LOL. I was an extra in the radio rebel party scene at 33:05. While the movie is a tad cringe, the actors were some of the nicest I’ve ever encountered from Disney.
OMG LOLOL
That’s actually really cool
@@jemimajanvier4706 haha it’s so funny that the movies gone viral in the last year! Not many people used to know what I was talking about when I’d say I’d been an extra in it!
that's actually a flex!!
I actually really enjoy that movie 🥲
i like Descendants but i will NEVER forgive how they did Ever After High so dirty. they literally copied their idea, WORD FOR WORD, and stole so much profit that EAH had to stop creating new episodes entirely.
No Fr though when i first saw descendants I was like is this not a live action version of ever after high or what
I got really upset when EAH stopped, being a avid fan of it since the show stated running, but it wasnt until recently that i found out that Disney was the reason for that. Technically its not fair, EAH came first, and had a large fanbase, so why rip off the idea, and cause the franchise and series to shut down? Still kinda annoys me that it stopped due to Disney, yet again being the big bad company taking mouse that it is, and ripping off ideas from already existing shows. Soz for my big rant 😅😅
And the doll market!! Descendants made dolls, too - cheaper, worse quality, but with the disney name. Look into it, it's kind of interesting.
yes! eah also had better representation. excuse me, but having multiple poc AND the main character be lgbt IN CANNON...oh wow and deep storylines with plots and cares about their characters! eah is where it was at! (also love how they connected it to monster high, which i also quite like).
EAH was really the best, especially the dolls which are the best commercial dolls I’ve seen out there, and it was so sad that Descendants made it go out of production
I've been saying forever that 2006 was the greatest year in DC history. Hannah Montana, Cheetah Girls 2 and HSM alone shut it DOWN. I'm sick just thinking of the executive Christmas bonuses that year.
LITERALLY the most iconic year
Honestly 2006-2008 was the true golden age for disney channel
Darwin Bowman so rich
2006 was a great year especially with That's So Suite Life of Hannah Montana. But the 2000s were definitely their golden age! Their actors regularly guest starred in talk shows WHILE their shows were still running, HSM and Hannah Montana released their own movies in theaters, even 5 minute shows coming on between are superior than what we have now. Nowadays, the shows range awful to decent. Raven's Home is a mixed bag but Sydney To The Max and all the animated shows definitely picks up the slack.
I wanted to be a Cheetah Girl so bad and I remember when HSM and Hannah Montana was EVERYWHERE. I’m so glad I grew up during the golden age but yet I still remember some of the films that came out before the golden age.
Lemonade Mouth is ICONIC, do not come for me
THE MOST iconic
so true bestie
The songs are sooo good
@@charlotte.7124 cultural reset
@@angelinaramsey9241 impossible, it isn't the most iconic, High school musical and cheetah girls are WAY but WAY more iconic and profitable than it, even camp rock
Every bad disney movie had a best friend who wore “that one” hat
this so true
What’s that? A hat?
A crazy funky junky hat
Overslept, hair unslightly, tryna look like Keira Knightly
We’ve been there, we’ve done that, we see right through that funky hat
I had too sorry😭😭
@@CrystalLovesChrist awwww I am flattered
@@CrystalLovesChrist omgg
I feel that Bella Thorne marked the point in Disney's history where a Disney star was a mixture of a celebrity and an influencer, after beginning to appear in the channels of UA-cam influencer like Tana Mongeau.
that's a really good point! and she took control of her own music career (for better or for worse... lol) which def shifted everything too!
not really, after she left Disney I think her last show was shake it up and she started coming out on movies such as blended and alexanders bad day she was basically doing her own thing it wasn't until later she started going "good girl gone bad" and started doing stupid shit on social media and she stole from a lot of people as well so :/
@Epic Rhino Films fr
Also jake Paul was on Disney
frealll she could've been an A-List celebrity since I watch a good amount of great movies starring her (outside disney). but then she starts creating beef with C-Listers like Tana Mongeau....
why is NO ONE talking about the masterpiece that was Let It Shine? it came out somewhere during the lemonade mouth era in 2012, but almost no one talks about it or how good it was. it was my favourite dcom as a kid, next to lemonade mouth
ITS SO GOOD? The songs are AMAZING It is totally slept on
Let It Shine was so freaking cute
it’s the best movie i still get the songs stuck in my head and it was one of the only dcoms that had a mainly black main cast
It's literally my favorite dcom. I could probably quote certain scenes word by word.
Say it with me
I think what made Disney go bad is that u can literally see in plain sight that there audiences just get younger and eyiunger each decade and era of Disney stars like right now there preteen and teen audience is starting to come back because of Disney plus but the actually channel just feels like it’s for elementary school kids and nothing past that demographic but I definitely think social media is the reason Disney audiences got into a younger age
yeah none of my middle school friends watch Disney channel anymore. We used to in when we were younger and even in 2018. But in 2019 and currently none of their shows now are popular. Me and my middle school friends talk about how stupid the zombies movies are and how Disney’s current viewers are basically fetus’s. Literally Disney Junior has more iconic shows than Disney Channel right now. Even when ravens home came out people watched it and me and my friends talked about the cast etc but nowadays even though I think the show is still airing none of us watch it and it’s also not as popular as it used to be, Disney Channel in general isn’t anymore
@@hadassah_g Omg The way you feel about zombies Is the way I used to feel about Teen Beach Movie, but now I like the movie (just not the whole evil villain stuff, that was weird)
Yea like Disney shows and movie were really good back in the 2000s and their movies were iconic like high school musical or lemonade mouth. Shows were also really good at the time. But now it like they are reusing ideas for episodes in different shows or movies
Disney used to be more creative back then - romance was typically the subplot. Now, DCOMs are romantic comedies - a straight white male and a female (typically white) in the lead focused on romance.
@@hadassah_g same, i was into disney 2012-2016 (i was born in 2005) and i've rewatched some of the old shows and they're not as good as i remember but still better than that awful zombies movie
Teen Beach Movie 2 had better songs BUT that ending was shit
EXACTLY. Disney literally did the thing that literature teachers tell you never to do. “And then they lost their memories the end”
Frfr, it’s the equivalent to ending an essay with “but it turned out it was all a dream”😭
Right it was a weird ending
if it wasn’t for that ending they could’ve probably done a third one
I totally agree
Literally HSM was so renowned that the Academy awards had gotten backlash because they had snubbed Lucas Grabeel and Ashley Tisdale in I Want it All in HSM Senior Year. Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens got to perform with Beyoncé at the Oscars so like they were mega stars
so true
the only time a disney channel movie was being aired in theaters
@@PaolaTheTimeLord it technically is not a disney channel movie, Disney Studios actually produced the film that’s why it had a theatrical release
@@Gaby-bx3cv the concept was from disney channel doe 😗 people knew HSM3 because of disney channel’s HSM legacy. i know. i was there
@@PaolaTheTimeLord if i remember correctly the hannah montana movie was shown in theaters
It feels weird being old enough that our childhood is now far enough away to be considered nostalgia
older dcoms seemed to have more diversity, if only newer dcoms made movies about different cultures and stuff like that
it’s so weird how the more we progress with time the less diverse disney channel is becoming :/ idk why that is
exactly! Gotta Kick It Up(latina cheerleaders), Jump In(black people double dutching), Buffalo Dreams(white boy learning about first nations), Cheetah Girls(black girls, latina and white girls making their dream come true), etc..
Lala Land Luck of the Irish literally had a whole nations of the world musical at the end of it lmao
@@evastood4539 I thought the main character was cute, omg, especially with the pointy ears😂
Geez when was the last time a Latino was the main character of a Disney Channel title? I'm genuinely asking because I can't name one 😬
I feel like nostalgia is a big thing right now for young adults around my age (I'm 24), so I feel like disney+ is the perfect move. How many of us did just like you during quarantine and rewatched their favorite dcom or disney channel shows? I subscribed to disney+ literally 10 days into quarantine in march and rewatched i don't even know how many shows.
okie but me doe. it brings back so many memories of eating cereal and watching those movies and tv shows. when i rewatched some vivid happy memories started to flood back. i love nostalgia
Girl I need to read your undergraduate thesis like rn, please share lol
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@Epic Rhino Films Nick Jonas was the brother who went on to be in Jumanji, not Joe. I agree with everything else, though.
@Epic Rhino Films what baby sitter rap song?
Lol same
@@samd8872 im not sure what their original comment was, but im guessing this is the rap battle they were talking about ua-cam.com/video/avaeQOD0eHI/v-deo.html
teen beach movie is so underrated IT PHYSICALLY HURTS 😭
BUT whoever wrote the ending for teen beach 2 WAS A CRIME 😭😭
ABSOLUTELY CRIMINAL. What was the point in having Mack and Brady forget each other??
The songs bopped tho?
I looked it up and It was Dan Berendsen
Am I the only one who actually like the ending of teen beach movie? 👀 it’s so unexpected and unique, leaves the fantasy part for the viewer to remember but not the characters, as a secret that we cannot tell them ... it feels very magical
How has this video not gone viral yet???? It’s so good!
I literally thought the same
It's about to. The algorithm is putting it in reccomended
It will, just wait lol
Ikr
Right
i think there's also an issue with not understanding current teens
What is the obsession with social media concepts? It's like boomers trying to entertain teens. I'm a teen and my interests and other teens vary a lot. I still don't know how they thought they could recreate I carly with bizardwark shit
Honestly all disney has to do FOR STARTERS is diversity and reperesentation.
Then what they actually have to do is care about what they are producing.
As well as take more risks with new ideas THAT ARN'T ROMANCE and that arn't about finding friends but rather mantaining them and learning to love them and go through hardships with them. Because believe it or romance isn't such a big deal in highschool anymore. Maybe a crush now and then but not a relationship.
Also if you want a soundtrack. Literally just don't saturate the music. And as the video said let kt serve a pirpoise to the plot. If tik-tok has taught me anything is that there are people willing to invest the time in making good music and understand how to play with sounds. And how to egache listeners.
I do agree with your point. They should do more reaserch on their target demographic. But that's allso a difrent issue, disney really has no teen targeted movies or TV shows now a days. And that oisses me off beviase i think they couñd do some really interesting stuff. Like they did with Andy Mack. Which is an amaizing show
I literally cant believe you have so few subs, this is one of the best deep dives Ive seen into dcoms
omg thank u
must be time to subscribe and see you blow up uwu
@@FLASHTHRIVE I’m subbing I love this stuff!
The 00’s was definitely an iconic time for Disney channel. That’s so Raven, Lizzie McGuire, Suite life, Wizards, Hannah Montana, HSM, Chertah girls, Camp Rock all iconic.
Literally HSM soundtracks being top sellers, having tours & a theatrical release as well as Hannah Montana is just so iconic
Right phill of the future, even Stevens, the proud family, jake long the American dragon..iconic
@@snixxdevaughn3267 exactly I’m so happy I grew up in that era. Same with Nickelodeon
Plus the proud family Kim possible Cory in the house this was like very late 90s and early 2000s
other than the hsm series, lemonade mouth is my favorite dcom. idk why it got so much hate
YEEESSSS THE HSM MOVIE SERIES AND LEMONADE MOUTH ARE LITERALLY THE BEST ONES
Lemonade Mouth got done dirty, that movie is literally the best
PEOPLE HATED LEMONADE MOUTH WHATTTT
Lemonade Mouth is a masterpiece
Wait what? No one ever hated on Lemonade Mouth.
unpopular opinion:
I personally think that Teen Beach Movie (the first one) is better than Descendants 🍿🤏😯
without a doubt 😌
AGREED
Agreed, I also think Teen Beach Movie is better then Camp Rock
Descendants is kinda overrated, the first movie was kinda good but everyone hypes so much the second one when the storyline is literally “Oh the Girl that wanted to be good and live well now wants to go the isle she was stuck her whole life only because she can’t be herself on Auradon even though she can change that”
Agreed
As a 2003 baby, I’m proud to say that I was here for the golden age
same...2002 baby here hehe
same here 😌
Same, 2004
Same, 2001!
I mean I was born in feb 2006 but I watched disney channel between ages 3-9 lmao so I just make it in
Cadet kelly was the ONLY REASON you saw me ribbon dancing on my front lawn
I asked my parents to enroll me in rhythmic gymnastics and they said ~no~ and bought me a ribbon at toys r us 😔
@@FLASHTHRIVE literally me!!
Girl same.
Haha
@@FLASHTHRIVE lmao i'm dead. they said we have rhythmic gymnastics at home.
Starstruck does not deserve this SLANDER! He- He sang the hero song with the guitar! She did uh he I mean he They were at the beach and they explored the city together!!!!
i am once again asking the commenters to explain the appeal of starstruck to me
@@FLASHTHRIVE it's a guilty pleasure mainly tbh
@@FLASHTHRIVE I think it's because of the wattpad appeal to it. when it came out I was 13 and I was a fangirl (obviously) and let's be honest the whole plot is a fanfiction and it was every girls dream to meet their favorite celebrity and have them fall in love with them.
no cap one of the BEST sound track
@@FLASHTHRIVE some songs are good, and my fangirling at the time really gripped on the plot like someone else said : famous persona falling for the fan. I still like to listen to "hero", "starstruck" and "walking on sunshine"
2:48 that’s okay Teen Beach Movies CARRIED 2013 anyways
And they fucked it up with the sequel!
@@ForrestFox626 omg yes, teen beach movie was/is my favorite dcom ever and the second movie was soooo disappointed, I wanted to punch someone on the face when I saw that ending
@@ForrestFox626 Fr the sequel had some good songs, but the plot was terrible. I hate that they made Mack and Brady forget each other. It should’ve just been one movie.
34:11
@@sketchycat6223 That ending to two was so dumb!
To be fair to Descendants, in a traditional musical (plays, classic Disney films like A Little Mermaid) the characters sing only when they have really strong emotions, not bc it's time for a performance. Having a plot-central reason for singing is just a DCOM thing (which I love). Some songs in Descendants might qualify as characters having really strong emotions, but some... not so much, in which case there is no reason at all for them to be singing
This is what I was coming to comment about! ~technically/classically~ speaking, most of the songs in HSM (for example) are sung in a performance context. Only Stick to the Status Quo, When There Was Me and You, and We’re All In This Together fit the non-DCOM musical mold. By this logic, Descendants makes total sense.
Exactly!
I only feel like the singing was unnecessary in D3 because they didnt need to sing when they fought the knights, evie didnt need to sing when she had to kiss doug, mal didn't have to sing when everyone turned to stone, etc.
Descendants is also a follow up to the Disney animated Canon many of which are musicals
When “We’re All in This Together” started playing I made a very not human noise.
I love that I lived through the peak and decline of disney
I actually adore Descendants. The first film came out when I was 13 and I instantly fell in love. All my friends and I would sing the songs around campus and we even recreated a scene for a class project. I'm now 18 almost 19 and I'm still obsessed with the whole franchise, including the music.
Descendants was the last thing i watched from Disney Channel, i was 14,some of my friends also watched it. Descendants is pretty good,i still like it.
same lol
i love starstruck sue me
Riiight, it's one of my favorite dcoms
since march (thank you quarantine), I think I rewatched it a good 10 times. It's my go to background movie for when I do assignments
Ok but Geek Charming was the much better alternative of that movie
@@evastood4539 honestly, i can't watch Geek Charming anymore knowing the history behind the actors. makes me feel uncomfortable. starstruck gave me my wattpad dreams in a movie, so it'll always be a favorite for me.
ikr i love starstruck
i was a lil on the older side (18 lol) when descendants came out but it was the first dcom in years that had me excited and I liked the cast. its a guilty pleasure for sure
That's interesting because it came out when I was 14, so I felt wayyy too old for it and it seems absolutely cringe to me lol. I would probably have a better opinion of it if I had been older or younger
@@rebekahw.8990 I was 15 when it premiered and it was sooo cringy to me too.
@@rebekahw.8990 i thought it was cringe but it was lowkey refreshing and felt a little like old Disney that I grew up with. and as I said its a guilty pleasure so I'm aware its far from a masterpiece but it was entertaining
@@vanillaar655 Yeah, after watching this video I can see that, I just hadn’t given it much thought before. And I have to admit what’s my name is a bop lol
Same even though it’s totally a rip off of ever after high. Even down to some costumes
The reason the jonas brothers/hannah montana episode did well was BECAUSE it was right after hsm 2, which had the highest rated premiere. And sterling didn't sing in star struck, someone dubbed for him just like zac efron it was the same guy drew seeley. BTW I want to commend you for saying "Amatangelo" right. That is my married last name and it is kind of funny seeing people struggle saying it
I think stirling only sung starstruck
@@jassyjones No it was all drew seeley
@@TishaMae No he did sing Starstruck. When they casted him it was already just a week before shooting so there was no time to record the songs so the demo versions were used similar to Zac Efron in the first HSM but he did record the title song Startruck. Not the others though. And it wasn't Drew Seeley. It was a dude named Drew Ryan Scott.
@@TishaMae Actually the guy who sang most of the songs in Starstruck, his name is Drew Ryan Scott
descendants more like rip off of ever after high and reason they wont make more seasons 🥺
Actually, descendants is based of a book, but I forgot the author. I never really cared for eah, I thought the design was to bright for me, but that’s just me 🤷♀️
@Mochi Potato you know what, I don’t feel like arguing with you, and the author was not trying to rip it off! Also, there are over 7 million people in America, so we’re bound to have the same ideas sometimes, and just because something has a similar story, does not automatically make it a ripoff. I just don’t like EAH, just cause the colors are a bit too bright for me, and a couple of the characters were annoying. I’m going to keep liking descendants, and you can’t stop me. Thanks for coming to my Ted Talk, and have a nice day ✌️❤️
@Mochi Potato sorry, I was just too in the moment and lost control of my frustration. I hope you have a good night 🌙😘
so true
to everyone in this comment thread you can like descendants but it is the reason they stopped making EAH since they didnt want to compete with disney and I thought the show was cute
ARE OLD DCOMS BETTER THAN THE NEW DCOMS?! YOU BET THEY ARE!!
that’s just nostalgia. I would say scone drom like 2011-2015 were the best bc that’s when I was a tween. It rlly just has to do with when u grew up
@@gracetherese I guess that depends on the person. For me, its not nostalgia those older movies were written way better. Storylines were better, concepts were more original, and not everything needed a musical moment.....
@@0104brit that reminds me of all those disney original movies like luck of the irish, eddie’s million dollar cook-off, the 13th year, etc. those were my favorites because it never had musical numbers. & like the video suggested: never talk down to your audience. those movies were memorable to me because it never talked down to kids. having musical numbers every other scene that doesn’t make sense is a way to talk down on kids. HSM & camp rock are good examples of not talking down on kids & the musical numbers are appropriate to the theme of the film
Paola F Bring him to the Matt was another well made movie that didn’t have a musical number in it either🤼♂️
@@evastood4539 i remember that!
the message of this video: Disney is slowly taking over the world with their scary capitalist plots
How terrifyingly accurate. They own almost EVERYTHING
This is the documentary I didn’t know I needed lol. Love thisss😂👍❤️
To me Descendents doesn’t have a really good story compared to there older movies but it is popular bc of the actors in that movie and even if the story isn’t the best kids are still gonna watch it bc of the style and actors, also the songs in the movie are catchy and make kids easily sing to it and get stuck in there heads. So even if the story isn’t as good as older Disney movies but kids will still watch it.
i think its a cool idea (how they're the villains' kids etc) but it could've had a better story line.
based on what i've heard, descendants ripped off ever after high, which also have the exact same concept and story.
I’m not gonna lie I really found it to be an interesting concept, I mean for one it’s got more of a conflict than love triangles or friendship issues, there’s teenagers being pressured from two sides and one of which is literal evil, which is nicely dark for a Disney movie. As for the main characters, there’s the appeal of moral ambiguities because it really does represent what people are more like irl. It’s not all some ‘oh I’m an innocent girl and all the trouble and turmoil comes out of some big misunderstanding’, or even the common ‘everyone hates me because I’m pretty and not like other girls’. Lastly, the concept being centred around females and their friendships with eachother - the empowerment! The guys really take a backseat in the storyline and it’s a role reversal of sorts; often the female (main-but-still-somehow-side) characters get little to no character dévelopement and just get dobbed off with a guy at the end for their happy ending. Mal and Evie, though! Evie realised her worth and dumped a prick, Mal was never dependant on her boyfriend for happiness and left him when he became overbearing (putting herself first as she should). Ik i went overboard but I love descendants way too much lmao
@@blkbarbie2671 Perfect 👏👏👏
Yeah and I always cringe looking at their costumes, idk why but they look so cheap. Ik it’s Disney but i wish they took a better direction with that
This video essay is so well put together. Can’t believe this is the first video on this channel. I knew next to nothing about DCOM and Disney Channel properties produced post-2009, so it was really intriguing to see the progression analyzed this way. I look forward to future videos.
Thank you for validating me in saying that Invisible Sister was good lol
it's so underrated
I agree honestly
Deadass thought i was the ONLY one who liked that movie lmao
You just gave me a list of movies to watch to revist my childhood. Also, from an Argentinian, the reason as to why Disney channel try to make the HSM was because the only tv produced "telenovelas" for teens, have not been a thing since the early-mid 2000s, seeing an oportunity to repeat the teenstar-program in latinamerica countries. Ergo, we have Violetta (tini stoessel), Soy Luna (karol sevilla) etc.
i've been meeting to get into soy luna! i've only heard great things about it
@@FLASHTHRIVE as a now young adult that grew up watching those sitcoms I widely recommend you watch Violetta first, its success was much larger and both the story and songs are amazing
And I recommend patito feo, it was the first "telenovela" alongside Floriencita
Karol Sevilla is mexican tho
@@FLASHTHRIVE PLEASE DO ITS THE BEST DISNEY SHOW I´M 22 AND I STILL LIVE FOR IT
Lemonade Mouth was QUEEN
It’s my favorite!!!!
This is amazing. Literally mirrors my thoughts on disney through the years. (Except for Starstruck, lol. I love it) Really excited to see more discourse on this and similar topics
I’m open to hearing a passionate defense from starstruck fans because I don’t get it but I’m willing to learn
@@FLASHTHRIVE please for do one on the decom genre
@@FLASHTHRIVE Starstruck is literally my favourite movie of all time for some reason.
I think I find it an easy film to watch: at the start, you immediately have two relatable characters in Sara who is obsessed with a young singer, and Jessica who is annoyed by the constant buzz around him (and then it gets a little deeper later on because Jessica tells Christopher that she likes his music but isn't 'obsessed' with him, something many people have related to with fandom culture).
The Olson family then travelling to California then sets up a bit of a background theme of the movie in that it's a trip around California (because you see a lot of people's favourite parts of California such as the Hollywood sign, Malibu beaches, Sunset Boulevard, Beverley Hills, etc) and this - at least for me - feels like I have been somewhat immersed in a California vacation. That whole section ties in with Christopher and Jessica awkwardly meeting and the initial perception that Christopher is a spoiled punk while Jessica is a bratty younger sister, but you then see how they slowly become more sentimental with each other and then (by accident) go around LA together like best friends on vacation together.
They then proceed to fall out over her grandma's car, and then Jessica storms away but it's desperately obvious that Christopher wants to try and fix what he did wrong. However, you can still clearly see how Christopher thinks he is a 'star' and Jessica is trying to get that through to him, and then he eventually starts to get it. Of course, you get the mandatory 'breakup' scene when they get back to the beach after their (also mandatory) near-kiss scene. There's also that whole storyline with the movie he was going to star in and that director, it kind of allows the movie to be a bit of an exposé of Hollywood (which is, of course, ironic coming from Disney) and the interview where he throws Jessica under the bus completely, which then leads to Stubby basically forcing him to rectify the situation. The movie then ends on a sweet note with the grand gesture of Christopher travelling out to Michigan to make amends and ask her out, showing how his and Jessica's characters have developed.
I know I kind of just summarised the movie but I found that the easiest way to explain all the themes that I enjoy in the movie. I will say that a lot of those perceptions came to me after watching Starstruck multiple times (I've probably watched it like 15-20 times) so I can see why people don't like it or find it 'cringe' based on not watching it many times. However, I never really get the criticism of it being unrealistic because it obviously is unrealistic but a lot of other successful DCOMs are, and that's often the beauty of a work of fiction.
I know I'm like nearly two years late with this but I just thought I'd offer my Starstruck perspective from the opposite aisle :)
The reality is that nowadays everyone can watch their favourite show/genre on their own. Parents don't have to watch the same shows as their kids so now they've dumbed down the kids' programs
Oh that Freaky Friday remake of the remake wasn't good. It was so boring 😴 The Avalon High movie was completely awful too. The book was fantastic but the movie 😒
Avalon high was good
Not the avalon high slander
The avalon high movie changed a major plot point in the book and all the careful pieces that had been placed suddenly didn't make sense.
I think I liked Avalon High because of Greg Sulkin
I did not watch the Freaky Friday reboot reboot because the commercial for it made me physically sick
No talk about "let it shine?" CRIMINAL.
I know! I'm pretty sure it's the only Disney movie with a black-led cast and it actually had amazing representation, especially with a dark-skinned actress being the romantic interest of the main characters, which is a ridiculous rarity in wider media. that, and the plot, characters and songs were really great too!
this is some of my favorite type of content. keep up the good work girl!!
thank u!!!
DCOMS used to be kid Lifetime movies now they like kid Hallmark movies.
This is the best comparison ever.
Couldn't have explained it better myself. 😭
I have never thought of that but it is definitely true.
not “acab” during the bad hair day clip lol I’m dead
Starstruck? You mean the movie starring knockoff Austin Moon?
Mr Chad Dylan Cooper
Love my man Austin and Chad
Umm Austin came out after so no not a knock off
the way some parents refuse to let their kids watch spongebob is how i’ll refuse to let my future kids watch new disney shows
That My Year to Party in the USA transition seemed seamless
omg thank u
Halloweentown is the High School Musical of Halloween movies (has a large impact, however if you look really close they aren’t the perfect movies, but you understand why they were so popular)
Invisible Sister is the Lemonade Mouth of Halloween DCOM’s (has some typical DCOM tropes but was still a little bit more realistic than the typical DCOM)
I've come to realize that the Halloweentown series isn't something I hold dear to my heart. That's mainly because as a kid, I never got to see the 2nd and 3rd movies, every time they came on thru reruns, I ALWAYS missed them and had to eat dinner or do something else, it was annoying. I only saw the 1st and 4th movies as a kid, surprising right? So in early 2016 I watched all 4 for completion sake and honestly, Halloweentown 2 is the best in the series.
Descendants has such a special place in my heart. As someone who grew up in the golden age, I was in middle school, going into high school when it came out. I was bullied a lot at that time, so I dreamt of being as cool as Mal with purple hair and magic 😂 I wanted to be the pretty, but edgy daughter of a villain with magic powers. After years, Descendants was the reason I returned to Disney channel for a short time. Starstruck was a guilty pleasure of mine tho 🤧 all teen girls had the dream of having their favorite celebrity fall in love with them. As someone who spent their middle school years on Wattpad, it was one of the movies i rewatched a lot! I honestly feel like it would’ve been better if it dove deeper into the pressures and hardships of being in the public eye
OUR LORD AND SAVIOR KENNY ORTEGA YES!!
the way you barely talked about let it shine smh
Dude this was so so so good! I've been so interested in high school musical and its success for such a long time, it's just so eternally fascinating to me as a pop culture concept. This video really deepened my interest for DCOM as a whole. Great work!
Also, kid's attention span is a key factor in entertainment now. You can see it decline from kids wanting to watch 2 hours movies to 25-minute episodes, to 8-minute youtube videos, to the app we all know and love/hate, tik tok 20-sec videos. So its becoming way and WAY harder for Disney to make entertainment worthy of their time--
I think the funniest part for me was realizing how much Wattpad like many of this stories were even with the crazy money for better writters, at the end the music reamin for me more than the movies. Also great video =D
After hsm trilogy ,wizards of Waverley place the movie is of the best Disney movies,its funny ,emotional and just so great
as a movie, starstruck sucked. but the title song was sooo good
I really like Hero lol
am i the only one who absolutely love starstruck as a movie? it's so light hearted and the main girl is such a mood. and yes the soundtrack is awesome
@@camilledelorme3314 I like it too lmao, but I agree that other movies made in those years are far superior
that soundtrack be boppin bro it had no business snapping
@@camilledelorme3314 I loved it too
Is no one gonna talk about how Disney actually DECLINED in diversity?? 💀💀💀 like I remember that a lot of DCOMS in the past had main characters of different backgrounds like Stuck in the Suburbs, obviously the Cheetah Girls. There was also often sort of a hip hop/pop crossover element which was perfect for the 2000s. Even if the dcoms in the past didn’t have as much diversity, they were at least still interesting to watch for all demographics. But Disney is so vanilla now and all the POC characters are just the token best friend or the enemy
Not to mention the movie color of friendship
invisible sister was really good!! it breaks my heart how underrated it is.
Descendants has valid reasoning to be musicals bc they’re predecessors to the original Disney classics which WERE musicals for the most part
I feel like you just explained my childhood to me... Because I just looked at a chronological list of DCOMs and Lemonade Mouth was literally the last one I ever saw
Same here it was the best and last movie I ever saw
Literally and I didn’t even see lemonade mouth until a few years ago when my friends were talking about it. I was never interested when it came out
It's weird & sad seeing Cameron now. Knowing he has passed. But he was a great actor for sure.
I'm a huge Descendants fan. I'm also a huge theater nerd. I can't stand Freaky Friday. But the Descendants stage show is really good.
But I think each era of the DCOMs have their classics/strongholds and their terrible ones. But I think it varies person to person on what they are.
WHERE CAN I WATCH THE DESCENDANTS STAGE SHOW WHAT
@@FLASHTHRIVE One of the prerelease productions is on here somewhere. Otherwise the script and demo tracks can be read/listened to for free on MTI (Musical Theater International) 's website.
I really like Freaky Friday, but it’s probably mostly Heidi Blickenstaff’s fault
@@talithacrow7530 I got to the mom's song while trying to bake and was turned off as a plus sized woman. Someone recommended it for consideration on my play reading committee and another member said it was the only show she's ever walked out of. And she was there for a friend.
@@courtneyernste4341 I’m not a parent yet, but I do love Heidi’s voice, and as a trans girl with a mother who is disappointed that in me because I’m trans and I always think if I can do something right maybe she’ll love me, I really relate to Ellie, especially because there have been multiple times when my mothers lied to me, but she’s never owned up to it
why is lemonade mouth so underrated? is one of my favorite disney movies
Disney now owns ABC and their abc characters join the Dcom. The lead in zombies is one of the leading one of Disney’s ABC shows.
ABC isn’t even abc anymore they freaking changed it to free form 😫
Yes, finally someone who likes Freaky Friday! I’m not alone! Hallelujah!
Edit: omg I’m old wtf
This movie is so fun😆
Wow watching this Jan. 20th, 2020, HSM’s 14th anniversary.
happy hsm to you and yours
"Not only your gonna break my spirit, But your gonna mock me as well?" ICONIC
SUCH GOOD CONTENT!! How does this not have hundreds of thousands of views?!
That movie Jump is was like the black kids representation on Disney ✨
So was Let it Shine
@@musiclover_kb4913 Let it Shine is CRIMINALLY underrated, like so many songs slapped, the characters and plot was so interesting ... justice for this movie!
@@thatqueenG Of course it is, they should've let the cast do a concert tour, it would've been amazing. It actually had the same director as Jump In (Paul Hoen) and even tho he's white, he succeeded in portraying the characters in both films as people first, who just so happen to be black. Cheetah Girls became a real-life group, High School Musical got a concert tour to support the movie but neither Let it Shine or Lemonade Mouth got any of those opportunities? That ain't fair.
Omg I love. This some high quality stuffs. So many good moments where I hella laughed lool. Amazing job to everyone who worked on this!! Video essays r the future!! I’m excited to see what’s next for the channel :3 ❤️
My favorite dcom when I was going up was The Color of Friendship. I remember waiting to watch it and getting so excited when I was it was going to play. It was around the time I was 13 (2012) that I started noticing that it was rarely played. I felt like the messaging was lost. This is why they say never talk down to kids. I was 5 years old when I watched Color of Friendship for the first time and I understood a lot of it. Don't get me wrong, I still watched the huge dcoms like HSM and Camp Rock. I think Lemonade Mouth is great and the Cheetah Girls 2 I watch all the time, the music for both of these movies slap, but I was always waiting for that film that would make me feel the way The Color of Friendship did. It's just disappointing to me.
There r some other DCOMS that told more grounded stories and were closer to realism. Tiger Cruise, Tru Confessions, Going to the Mat and Miracle On Lane 2 are examples of that
WOW is the first time that I see somebody that actually thinks about context and time(what kids or teenagers nowadays like) before judging new dcoms.👏👏👏👏👏
Kinda hilarious how my biggest nostalgic DCOM was from the year after the nostalgia era. The Cheetah Girls was the first DCOM I watched the premiere of, instead of reruns.
Seeing Phantom of the Megaplex in this video DID smack me in the face though, so that's definitely an accurate name for those years lmao
I love the research and passion that went into making this video!
Also, I just want to say that Let it Shine is one of my personal favorite movies that I feel is kind of underrated. It is a remarkably good film that does a great job of showcasing the gospel, Christian rap, and regular rap scenes in Atlanta (what they looked like in 2012 anyways) as well as showing the importance of being your authentic self. Maybe it just resonates with me because I turned ten a few days after it came out and therefore was the target audience, but the music is genuinely great without a doubt- even ignoring any nostalgia I may have. Also, the line from Guardian Angel that says "we just preached to different crowds" is always something I've resonated with as a "progressive Christian" and someone who often had/still has disagreements about the role of contemporary music in church. Finally, the line "I might be a bus boy, but you just served" from Moment of Truth is simply iconic! I rest my case.
Let it Shine is so damn good, it came out a few months before I turned 18 but seriously, the soundtrack SLAPS. It was so underrated, along with Lemonade Mouth, both movies should've let their respective casts do a concert tour
this is art
I'm surprised you didn't mentioned Glee popped up in the identity crisis phase since that was inspired by the HSM, Camp Rock and stole a good chunk of Disney's audience. Also the Cheetah Girls CD on Hollywood was a banger!
The only kids channel that has successful well in my eyes atleast transition to this decade is Nickelodeon cuz I had it as background noise one day and I noticed they have a lot of social media stars on there channel which is kinda smart because social media stars are the new teens stars like Jojo siwa Annie lablance Kenzie Ziegler and Charlie damelio
charli didn't blossom on nick and she isn't a regular on nick so..
Motocrossed is so underrated!!!
I'm 26 and I still rewatch it sometimes, its so good!
Nobody talks about how good that movie is.
Yh that was a good movie
@@writerchick94 28 and I still love it lol
yes our lord and savior ✨💁🏻♀️kenny ortega💅🏼✨
“Children of Descendants evilest villains”
Um so where is Chernabog’s kid cause like I would say he is worse then Cruella..........
They literally let one of the Paul brothers on Disney 😭
Like what in the family friendly was that?
I loved how this video was made. This has to be the best video ever made on this. It would be pretty cool if you made more stuff on the Disney stars themselves on the rise and now or more Disney history. Nickelodeon would be cool too. I subbed because you did a lot of hard work and told good info. This a big question though for a video. Why are all the Disney stars have great talent but are hidden to stars like Ariana Grande. For example, Sabrina Carpenter is amazing artist but, all the time people say in the comments she is underatted singer that should be seen. That would be a great concept for a video and do you think that any of them will stay hidden or grow? Anyone reading this, stay safe and have better day
HELLO WHERE MY MALVIE AND MACKELA SHIPPERS AT???????
WE STAN
i was in elementary school from 2005-2011, right in time for the golden age and it was crazy how popular disney channel was. all my favorite singers, all the music i listened to, they were all from disney channel. i wanted to be hannah montana when i grew up. i kept watching once and a while until 2015ish, but the last dcom i liked was let it shine. the last shows i got into were good luck charlie and shake it up. i’d watch the newer shows they put out when i was in middle school like dog with a blog and jessie, and even in high school like girl meets world or i didn’t do it but really after 2011 i spent more time watching reruns of suite life of zack and cody, hannah montana, and wizards than i did watching new shows. i always thought i grew out of the channel, but clearly i still wanted to watch it. i just didn’t like the new shows lol
can we all agree that disney is absolutely killing the tv animation game right now!?
Those shows are what's really keeping the lights on in the channel. Tho, Sydney To The Max and Secrets of Sulfur Springs are good so far. And depending on your sense of humor and patience, Raven's Home is decent.
How so?
@@koni00004 their tv animated stuff over the past decade has been great, gravity falls, tangled the series, amphibia and my favorite the owl house have all had amazing stories, lovely animation and pretty complex characters for disney channel (also there's eda and bill cypher, they make everything amazing)
That is what is currently carrying the channel now. All the live actions are shit except maybe Raven's home which isn't the best but it's probably the only watchable show rn.
@@beryla4979 Syd to the Max is great
can we all just agree that zombies is terrible
“someday” carries the whole franchise
It’s not that bad
@@jassyjones yes, it really is that bad
@@jassyjones same I thought it was good and interesting I want to know more about Addison's backstory
do not come for starstruck that was literally my favorite movie when i was like 8
I find it really interesting that Disney Channel movies were ever marketed towards teens. I was a preteen during the golden Disney era (supposedly when the movies were the best) and I remember even then thinking the movies were pretty childish, and I wasn't the only one who thought that. Around the age of 12 pretty much everyone in my grade had grown out of Disney Channel and the few who didn't kept it pretty low key. There wasn't even a stigma around it, we all just kind of agreed that the movies were watered down and written for young kids. I find it interesting that the golden age of Disney movies are considered so good because I'm not sure they ever actually were, they were just more popular.
This video is so good and yet it only has 111 likes? Unreal!!!
I don't consider 2006-2011 the Golden Age at all.... Just cuz of the money and popularity Disney Channel and the stars gained???? Nope. A lot of the movies just weren't it. Some? Sure, but it's considered a Golden Era because Disney Channel was getting hella money and that's it. Not because the movies were really touching.
I saw invisible sister on Netflix (when it was on) a little while ago...I kept up with DCOMs more than I realized, but I’m not shocked lol. I hope Geek Charming gets a mention, I think it was one of the better/good modern DCOM’s.
I liked it too. I thought it was cute and it had a old school Disney feel to it.
Yh geek charming was awesome
the joy i felt when u said mack and lela are girlfriends