@@asafblasbergvideographer most will be any that won't be is stream clips or maybe some talking head videos but any videos with the main focus on the TVs should be in HDR with the exception of this year where some videos may not have been shot with the HDR format idea in mind (meaning I shot them earlier this year)
@bleachedwhale I have seen them side by side and oled is far superior in contrast. Micro Led will be the only led TV technology that dethrones oled IMO
I recently purchased a Sony Bravia 9, I'm thinking of setting up the Google TV on initial set up. As of now, I use an Amazon Firestick 4K Max on my current LG OLED. I don't have any applications installed on my Google Home application. When I set up the Sony Bravia 9 initially with Google TV, will I need to independently download each app to the Google TV like I did with the Firestick? I'm unfamiliar with Google TV/Home and how it works, thanks.
Yo KG! My 77 G3 looks lifeless next to my new 85" QM8 and Bravia 9. I think I might be done with OLED unless something drastically changes. Am i crazy?
Not crazy at all it can look that way in certain situations and depending on what mode you watch. G3 has a major game mode issue as well if you’re gaming at all. Bigger size also helps skew perception a bit more too.
Hi mate av got x95l I love it got it 6 months ago think it's amazing but is it still a great TV compared to bravia 9 or should I have waiting for bravia 9?? Thanks
@@ChrisCurran-p9r to be honest feller if your happy with it and let’s be honest who has two tv next to one another picking faults with either,,,live with it wait til prices fall and then if looking to upgrade ide definitely get the B 9 it’s amazed me far more than first thought, 👍👍
Great review KG. I think brightness gets swept under the carpet too much these days so thankyou for highlighting the benefits. Mini led may not give the depth but my god it has the wow factor!
Thanks for the detailed, but not overly lengthy content. Loved your your point about this model not being the best in the contrast challenge, but overall being a lot more impactful that the competition. Would've loved to see a segment on the superior sound produced by the Bravia 9 seeing how reviewers are so impressed by it. Better yet, how it compares to the competition that require additional equipment to provide that audio oomph. Cheers!
When i watched your G4 Oled comparison vs this TV. I knew youd like this more after you dialed everything in. Sonys color performance, their shaprning are so next level. Mini-leds give me an Oled except theyre brighter. Id argue they are a more true HDR experience. SONY choosing their flagships to be mini-led is the right move and i cant wait for them to make a 42 inch version. They are worth the premium honestlym Cheers.
Coating can be a problem for overhead lights that reflect on the TV if you have any that stay on, you will get a rainbow streak, other than that it’s pretty decent nowhere near the S95D at eliminating reflections though. This decision will come down to how you plan to watch, or if you game. If you game a lot go S95D for sure.
My dream is watching Dune Part Two on a Bravia 9 but the price is very too high for me. I really appreciate the fact that you give us a 4K UHD with HDR videos. That's why I love your content so much thanks !
LG G4 in my opinion is the safest and best future-proof TV. my second option would be Bravia 9 The pixel response and clarity in motion on LG G4 what makes me only preferring OLED over miniLED
@caclclo G4 and A95L has heatsink for this reason LED can stand very high temperature it's okay my friend buy what serves you the best in terms of features the temperature of the panel is not a concern.
In my country the G4 83' is much cheaper than the 85" B9 , though just released , but Sony being Sony , won't see discounts for a long time . There is no one TV to rule them all - neither win on size vs 98"-115" . Most of the latest Tvs will make most people happy. People saying that this TV or that TV is best without conditions is being silly . our man here says you want vivid , like vivid get this TV - ie conditional . Again just remember 2025 LG, TCL, Sony Samsung TVs will be better again , so your best TV no longer is. Good chance Sony's tech it's TCL tech anyway ( the controllable dimming zones ) - Tech seen on other TVs, and Sony is not crowing as exclusive patented Sony tech . So keep than in mind as this TV will be beaten with NIT monsters in coming years , including by Sony who want a natural 4000Nits , and a high 100% screen as well
In canada there is a price difference of $1000.00 canadian ($722.00 US) between the 65 inch A95L and the B9. That goes up to $2200.00 ($1590.00 US) between the 77'' A95L and the 75" B9. On Sony's US website ,I see that they have similar price differences. $1000.00 for the 65" and $1500.00 for the 75/77''. That is significant price differences in my view.
For Filmic viewing - is it true the Bravia 9 has more shadow detail than a95L / OLED - due to the higher brightness?? So shadow detail will always be ahead + brighter highlights??
Shadow detail is a little lifted with the B9, but there are no artifacts, like dithering noise, chrominance overshoot, or pulsing/flashing behavior that OLEDs sometimes deal with. The detail is all easy to see on the B9. So a lot of the time I do observe more shadow detail on this TV. How much shadow detail we were *intended* to observe is where it gets tricky. Both mini LED and OLED will both struggle with shadow detail in their own ways, because it's such a challenge in general. This is a long way to say that they are both wrong but you can still have a preference. PS> You mentioned the word "filmic" and that is not exactly an easy term to define for everyone, but I would use that word to describe this TV. Movies look rich and always natural.
@@444chroma Great reply - that makes a lot of sense - I do enjoy clean shadow detail in films, Sicario night shots are my benchmark - but sounds like I may lean to the B9 - going to hopefully check it out in person soon :)
Totally happy with my Bravia 8. They are priced within $200 of each other, and yes totally get that the Bravia 9 as a Mini-LED with the updated backlight Master Drive to really drive up those speculat highlight nits..... but the Bravia 8 OLED for me gave a more balanced picture. But that's the wonderful thing of choice: you choose whats best for your use case. Love my choice of the B8, just as I'm sure others love their choice of the B9, the B7, the A95L, the C4, or the G4 etc.
@ebayer1980 for the same money, the A95L set would have been smaller. The next time you are in an electronic store like Best Buy or Value Electronics etc..... compare the two. They're actually closer and comparable in general mixed use. Not a waste at all, but again, that's just my opinion. But like I said, that's a wonderful thing about choice. Anyone can choose whatever set they want and prefer for their use case and dollars spent, without crapping on other's choices
@@dmarable79 I am still undecided between the Bravia 8 77" and the Bravia 9 75". How do you like the Bravia 8 so far? WiFi performance, glossy screen, shadow details, black crushing, SDR brightness, viewing in a bright room, etc. Those are the concerns that I have read but you know, tv fanatics always find something to criticize. ;) I am leaning more towards the Bravia 8 right now.
@williambroth7784 Hi!! Personally I am very much enjoying The Bravia 8! Starting off with the screen it's the Evo panel that is similar to the C4, G4, A90j, A95L (although not QD), so specular highlights due to HDR/DV is fantastic. It doesn't get as bright as the A95L nor the Bravia 9, but it does get bright! It doesn't Black Crush, and that's one thing I love about Sony is that they care more about Shadow detail and just detail overall. Seriously no regrets on this. What I would say is also make sure to go to your local electronics store whether it's Best Buy, or Value Electronics or anywhere else and just see it for yourself so that way you can get a really good idea what it's like. To me it's kind of like the 900e of oleds this year. It doesn't have a standout feature, but it's a well balanced set.... that just does everything well.
I am actually curious to see the Bravia 7 vs the 9 because I find contrast near impossible to tell apart between LEDs and OLEDs at this point. Heck, even a video from 2017 of the Z9D and an OLED really doesn't make the case for the OLED. Brightness is the OLED's achilles heel and gaming is the LED's achilles heel since it can't dim to 400,000.
Same here, I was thinking of getting the Bravia 7 around november and I’m upgrading from a low tier samsung if 2016, so it will be amazing by comparison
had the lg g4 and that tv was dim as helll or should i say wasn't bright enough for me so is bravia 9 really the best mini led tv of this year? besides tcl qm8 and hisense u8n?
Thank you! I haven’t heard anything yet about 8K Sony has neglected 8k 2 years in a row now, but I can’t say they gave up on it, I guess there is always a chance seeing as they released an 8k cinema camera this year, you’d think they’d want to push that medium further. I wouldn’t expect it but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Hey kg. In this video you mention the G4 colors arent as good as B9, however, in your comparison video between the two last week the G4 colors were much punchier and more saturated. What am i missing?
G4 colors will look more vibrant due to better contrast. once contrast is compromised, our perception of colors suffers as well. At 65" size G4 is a way better TV.
I really wish this we’re easier to explain and show but unfortunately the camera doesn’t tell the whole story here, I wish that video were done in HDR with the format I use now because it’s easier to capture color now. At times cameras can struggle to capture color at high brightness levels I hope to revisit the comparison with HDR footage because I did manage to capture some when I had them side by side but I didn’t have the HDR format when I did the comparison video posted. Hopefully this helps.
Nice video again - HDR is great. Can’t wait for next one. As you mentioned out of box G4 is less colourful but if you modify tone mapping it will get close enough? One thing to mention is B9 will lose contrast/colours off angle - if you have seats at 40 degree or more - PQ will suffer. Higher brightness is nice - but better contrast adds more to PQ. You can mod s95d to get 3k peak brightness also. That means OLEDs are bound to get brighter soon. In darker room you would not utilise B9 brightness as it would be blinding. 1000 nits can be so definitely 3000 will. Only good 98" LED would convince me over OLED. At the moment happy to pay 10% more and get 83" G4. If Sony released 98" B9 for sensible price then yeah. Waiting to see 98" TCL vs 98" UX Hisense flagships before deciding. Number of dimming zones they are pushing is nearly 10x bigger than Sony - no fancy backlight control needed. Cheaper and brighter also. Just need to wait for this to come to 98” size. For time being 77/83” OLED will do. Saying this would like to see that tv in vivid as you suggesting, I think you might be right there.
I'm wondering if SDR metrics are the most valuable for most people? For example, most people I talk to have the Netflix standard plan (non HDR). Outside of XBOX/PC/PS5 gaming (non Nintendo Switch) and the few of us that pixel peep. I wonder how many people are actually watching HDR content these days? Would be an interesting data point. Bravia 9 + Q8M destroy most TVs in SDR.
I’m not KG but I can hypothesize that most people couldn’t even care less most movies games TV and UA-cam videos are still in rec 709 and HLG very few movies or games even are in the DCI P3 color space and even if they are, they are most likely display P3
most people with Netflix std plan won't spend that much on tv either - they will have a cheaper smaller tv. Enthusiasts get top of the line and most definitely get best quality content.
@@whitecrowuk575 that makes sense. I'm curious if early adopters just buy the most expensive or "best" based on Best Buy sales associate recommendation. I might equate this to guys who buy a Porsche 911 Turbo S, but then put Hankook tired on it because they fit, and are much cheaper. I see this all the time. Gets expensive TV, puts cheap content on it.
Everyone watches 4k HDR, at least anyone who cares about Picture quality. Why would you pay that much money for a TV and watch SDR lol?? You buy a TV like the Bravia 9 for HDR and 4K, not SDR, come on.
I ditched my S95B for Bravia 7. Damm I never thought I would buy an LED TV and now I was blown away by it's picture quality. Dolby Vision content looks Unreal on Bravia 7.
@@cenktheangel I have seen both the S95C and B7 side by side, and the S95C destroyed it, wasn't even close, and the S95C is only a little better than the S95B...
I need to delay audio for a few milliseconds to match the TV box sound with the image on my new 75" B9. I can find the A/V Sync setting but it allows only for three options: Auto / On / Off... but none of them allows me to set a time delay like 20ms or 30ms... Is this not an option with the B9?
How well would this TV perform in a pitch-black room against QD-OLEDs? I currently have an a95k and the only drawback for me is that it only has 65'. I was wondering between the Bravia 9 and the a95l. Wouldn't the Bravia's 9 HDR brightness be too uncomfortable in reference mode in a dark room?
Hey KG, as a G4 owner, should I return it for a Bravia 9? I game and watch sports a ton so I feel MINI LED is the better panel type for me. Great review buddy!
For gaming : if I’m only playing story driven games and I only care about picture quality. I don’t care about 144hz, hdmi 2.1 etcc. Is it the best choice ?
Very convincing review. And a Tv that silences most critics. Only, availability of its sizes on various continents and its steep price shall make it unbotainable for many prospective buyers !
Thanks KG. I said it on the very first video - take time and test this TV. Wih you could have gotten the 85" instead. Great reassessment. Thisi s the vibe
Oh yeah there was always going to be a full review with this one it’s a great TV that fits a specific type of scenario almost perfectly. 85” isn’t that much better btw same brightness and color just more zones but that’s not a big issue with the Bravia 9, outside of what I said gaming but I’d imagine the same is true for 85” you still will get the flash-lighting and backlighting fluctuations
The "LCD issues" that continue to exist, particularly in gaming, have me happy that I went to QD-OLED and will likely never go back to LCD. I can't STAND the backlight issues. Also, the bigger you go with LCD, the more you can see smearing in motion. Particularly in games. My last LCD was a larger (75") mini LED and the motion was pretty bad on it. I got sort of used to it for movies and shows, but for gaming it was extremely distracting. It essentially looked like every game I played had a mild motion blur enabled. Upgraded to QD-OLED and everything looks fantastic now. So yeah I'll pass on the extremely high brightness (even though I love some good bright HDR) in exchange for an overall more stable and consistent image
@sound4label Don't be. I'm not. I used Plasmas back when everyone was scared of burn in and never had issues. I've had S90C for several months with no issue. And based off of rtings torture testing, don't think there's any reason for anyone to be afraid of burn in. LG has made their WOLED panels better against burn in over the years and Samsung seems to even be notably better than LG in that department.
@sound4label From my experience, burn in has only really ever been an issue for these types of displays with users that just totally mishandle them and abuse them. Shouldn't be an issue at all as long as you use it like a normal person
I agree with you KG this B9 does look next-level good. I have the 2020 TCL R635 miniled, so I can imagine how good this Sony miniled is with its awesome processing Sony is known for.
@@davidross7255 I had a 77” C1 and i couldn’t imagine something better.. but god! Everything is 10 times better. My eyes hurt from the brightness even with a well lit room. The colors are a lot better and saturated. Not tint and perfect uniformity. Perfect TV and ill hold on to it until the 97” get cheaper.
Excellent walk through KG. It's so good that Sony went back and put in this level of effort with Mini-LED. Some of us were waiting a long time!! This TV seems special in the way that it kind of does everything well. The main draw for me is HDR impact, color, and increased shadow detail during movie watching. Also feel just feel a little extra peace of mind because it's a traditional backlit display so there is no concern for dimming, static pixels, or PC usage....no pixel shifting, compensation cycles etc. You are right this TV is at its best when the backlight is allowed to fully flex and push the light. Your observation with game mode is also true, the pixel level control and instant response being a huge advantage for OLED when it comes to gaming. There is just not enough time for Sony to pre-process frames in advance for the B9's backlight while in game mode without introducing lag which is a big no no. Game mode is still good but if that's your MAIN thing you can do better.
Yup I would agree if gaming is the primary use case I’d suggest a TV like the S95D or G4. As well as the A95L that would suit gamers better than Bravia 9.
Thanks for the review. You know what’s funny… I went B8 to G4.. back (ran) to the B8. What I’m saying is that I’m wondering if Bravia 8 brightness, processing etc etc is best for the aging population. The G4 was kicking my butt with the peak brightness. Even lowering still hammered my eyes. Anyway for anyone wondering the Bravia 8 really really really surprised me. Even game mode is legit! The Bravia 9 is just not in my interest. I’m an oled person. Thanks for the review!
C4 is W-OLED with no MLA enhancement so it will look close to what the Bravia 8 was I showed and QNED90T isn't very bright probably 1,000 nits peak and its no where close to the same level with a small amount of dimming zones for a Mini LED TV.
Hi man, what is your lg g4 clarity settings? On my LG C2, I set input to game console, so that I could use more features. I turned off allm, vrr, the reason behind this, is that with these turned off, processing features like clarity work better. Input lag is okay, good enough for story driven games. In addition, I use cinema picture mode and Ai picture pro turned on, it upscales low res textures But ai picture pro is tied to sharpness, without it, it won’t work. Also I use super resolution medium and sharpness 28. Ai picture pro work when sharpness is set to 25 or over, same with super resolution. I am using this because, when playing in performance mode resolution suffers, and this workaround helps with that. I would appreciate if you could tell me your opinion and suggestions. Thank you KG😊
I would imagine that is quite high input lag you don’t notice it? I could never personally recommend that, if you want good game mode picture quality with lower input lag I think ALLM would be a must in this scenario. The moment you load in anything that requires a dodge or anything reactionary you would really be hindering your gameplay experience.
@@TechWithKG I think its good for story driven games, I just want good, sharp, picture quality.can you recommend me something? What clarity settings would you use KG. Thank you for your responses😊
I personally think absolutely it is, you definitely have a fuller sense of surround sound with an emphasis on directional audio, it blew my mind with how good the sound did at filling the room.
Thank you it was a great and honest review. You didn't discuss off angle? Why? That is my only concern. I am very inclined to buy this TV because of the sound and would love to know what you think with the Sony Quads. Will the dynamic range take it to a level no other TV can match?
That was my fault to omit off angle that’s an oversight but I did mention it in my first video but off angle is worse than on angle for sure like every mini led, blooming is more noticeable off angle. Color and contrast drops off but not as hard as those without angle filters. If you want good viewing angles you need to get a OLED TV.
A lot of praise for the vivid mode. But I’m curious just how hard does this tv hit when it comes to hdr vs the QD/MLA. When the B9 is in professional/cinema mode compared to the others? Is it worth getting for the extra pop in brightness then
In the professional mode no not really you don’t experience a ton of difference most of the time scenes can look really similar so any contrast advantage from OLED is more noticeable and I’d tend to favor them next to the Bravia 9, most show and movies are conservatively graded and have more dark scenes than anything. So really yeah not typically if we’re talking S95D A95L G4 but certain high APL scenes can look brighter on the Bravia 9 and if you manage to actually come across high graded content that is consistently showing high brightness scenes you can notice a difference. It’s definitely more noticeable when you’re next to a WOLED like the Bravia 8 though.
I watch a lot of sports. Basketball and football to be exact. I also watch sports news. I currently have an S90C but wondering if I should get the Bravia 9. I do play Warzone often but I can do without it. Should I go with a G4 or Bravia 9. I also love to watch good quality movies.
I would really say it depends on your viewing style and if you’re in a bright or dark room. G4 will be the more crisp contrast driven image with the most depth but Bravia 9 will have the brightness advantage if using vivid or standard modes of your not using those modes go for the G4 especially since you mentioned FPS gaming like war zone.
@KG…Bravia 8 or Bravia 9 for a complete light controlled basement? I feel like I wouldn’t be able to get the full benefit of the B9 in a basement setting which is its brightness. I simply won’t need it nearly as bright compared to if I was putting it in a sun drenched room.
If your watching content in professional mode or you get a reference calibration the difference will be less noticeable but Bravia 9 certainly still gave me a more pleasant experience even in professional mode I appreciate that extra HDR impact in a dark room but it really boils down to how you like to watch content.
@@TechWithKG So you’re saying with the correct picture mode/settings and lowering the brightness the B9 will look spectacular in a dark setting but also give you that HDR impact that OLEDS just can’t, especially the Bravia 8. 👍
@@TechWithKG I still don't have a Tv, but i got a last gen qd-oled as a main monitor(aw2725df), I only use the mode with the most realistic colors i don't like enhanced/fake colors. I guess the A95L would be a choice aswell but cost almost 2k more than the lg4 in my country
I've had many Oleds and LED TVs. I have the 77" A90J now and a 65" Sony A95k. I must say, the biggest wow factor I ever got, is from my LED TVs. Sure the A95K looks amazing, but My Vizio LED, would be Jaw dropping on some bright scenes, back when I had that TV. Brightness makes things look like real life more, where the infinite contrast gives more depth. But WOW factor seems to come from brightness.
For whatever reason, BB has upped the price of the 75” to $3999 when Sony direct and Amazon still have it at $3499. Edit - they fixed it. I think the 75B9 is a good value compared to the 77G4 and 77S95D. I would love a 77A95L but can’t justify the $5K asking price. 75B9 is much easier on the wallet and offers 85 - 90% of the performance plus brightness advantages.
Im stuck in the same position, debating between oled or mini led. Its the 65” a95L vs 75” bravia 9. I feel like I definitely want the bigger size though, so that leaves me with the g4. Im afraid tho cause in best buy, the lg g4 looked really yellow at times when the sony looked white/clear/bright..
They are quite different the backlight control is nowhere on the same level as the 9, brightness difference isn’t actually that big though. I will compare in the near future
@@TechWithKG I know that's a biggie on led TV's but my 85" x90L doesn't even show any blooming and it has far less local dimming zones. I think the only problem with mine is some streaming services having smearing in dark scenes and contrast in say dark castles all blends in. Not sure if that can be fixed with led but we'll see?
Let’s hope we get same dual oled technology Apple is using in the new IPads next year in TVs, seeing 1000 nits in fullscreen on an oled is really impressive.
Deiced to wait until Sony releases another 98 inch tv. A 98 inch Sony with X95L tech and a new upscaling processor seems worth waiting for. I still might want to go all out for their next 8K tv too . Quality will improve every year, but you cannot replace a bigger screen or a higher resolution
This! I care about deep blacks, pure white, color volume, and proper accuracy of 480i all the way to 4K HDR content. I don't need a TV so bright that I go blind like if I was staring at the sun during a solar eclipse.
Appreciate the review, but my thoughts are the same as they've been for a long time. As much as sports watching is so prevalent in society, it's frustrating that very little content has been dedicated to how all of these TVs perform with live-action, fast-moving sports, like football, basketball, and soccer for those of us who want to make a decision with that very much in mind.
They are all so similar for this in the premium category and I can’t show copyrighted material especially sports is really strict, but I’ll eventually be filming some of my own sports content in the future
@@TechWithKG thank you in advance for doing this. I understand the idea that they're similar, but they're also similar in other categories. I'm just thinking that if I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on a product, I should be diligent enough to get it right the first time, and not have to spend even more on a reset.
No doubt I am a big sports watcher myself so I hope to find ways incorporate better ways to test it, but from what I’ve found it’s really splitting hairs at the top end, stick with the big 3 for sports LG Sony Samsung.
Side by side with A95L the B9 suffers from contrast in comparison. Also at 85 inches it needs 8K resolution. A95L is crisper at 65 inches. There's also blooming on the B9. Good video.
@@Icipher4 you know what? I'm in Canada and G4 is not available to see in stores side by side. But that said the G3 looks amazing I saw it with my eyes side by side and it was a 77 inch TV. So I believe the G4 will look even better.
I chose the S95D for the gaming given it has the highest color luminance and top end gaming features. It is, surprisingly, better than my S90C by a significant margin
@@ehenningsen in a dark room, S95D calibrated to BT2020 is untouchable in gaming. (default game mode is horrible though) I am sending G4 back for another hopefully non-faulty S95D!
How does the Bravia 9 compare to the Z9K in brightness and performance? The Z9 series are known to hit close to 4000 nits specular highlights and has 85 watt audio setup.
Z9K is bright, but uncontrolled bright. It's not a comparison with the new backlight technology in the B9. Both will get bright enough to stain your shadow into the wall behind you.
@@NexGenTek Its worth a try cause im trying to pick between them 😅...everytime I ask I just get the "Its better" but Im trying to get to how much better it is. Im thinking Z9K cause it can do close to 4000 nits...all reviews about the Bravia 9 I saw and read says the it does 2800 nits but better contrast...but then theres few that says it can do close to 4000 nits also but cant tell me where the review is at. And theres the audio as well, the Bravia 9 has a 70 watt 2.2.2 system and the Z9K has a 85 watt 2.2.2 system ( I dont use my audio system all the time ) Just really curious, so Ima keep asking someone until maybe someone can make a proper comment...sorry
@@AnythingGoesJoJo They both do close to 4000 nits at 85. I told you to ask on the forums they’ll probably be happy to repost their findings it’s not a review. No reviewer has the 85inch. Bravia 9 audio it’s going to be much better and the world’s first tv with over the head frame tweeter. Also the local dimming zones destroy the Z9Ks local dimming. I don’t think you’re trying to choose seems more like justifying your already purchased Z9K.
@@NexGenTekNo not that...I know the Bravia 9 is better, I am asking is how much better...But so far everytime I ask I get answers like "No camparison", "Superior", "Cant touch it"...which is just fluff to me. Like I said before Im still going with the Z9K for my use case...Im trying to look for data how much better the Bravia 9 is. Im not trying to pick a fight. You said the 85" model can do 3400 nits, Im not arguing that but Im asking where did you get that information? I asked you for a link in the other video but I didnt get any.
The sony Bravia is a amazing in my opinion far better than the Samsung 2024 8k tv seen them side by side ,for me personally it's nothing like infinite contrast especially and the combo of color brightness on a qd oled .
I have one but they need to update the software. If the TV is on longer then 6 hours. The sound goes innto what I call side band mode. It literally sounds like a Ham radio in side band. I rather have to reboot the TV from the menu or unplug it. It Does not matter if it's on an app, OTA or hdmi input. It's like a software memory leak I am guessing.
Minimal blooming for sure it should be a non issue in most content, but of course it’s still there in really challenging circumstances if you want to go looking for it you’ll find it but nothing distracting from typical viewing experiences on this TV. Off angle like every mini led TV though blooming is far more prevalent.
Keep in mind C7 and before had a red subpixel issue causing quicker bouts of burn in that has been addressed since they are much more reliable and have more protective settings in place.
I'm sorry but the HDMI inputs are a deal breaker for a lot of people buying high end tvs. Secondly, even though it's a very good led TV, it doesn't come close to oled. I purchased the Bravia 9, returned it for a QN900D, then returned that one as well for an LG G4. Best decision ever!
@enzopied3015 the matte screen on the S95D was a no for me as blacks looked gray because of light reflection. The A95L has the same HDMI inputs as the Bravia 9 which leaves me only with a G4.
What are your problems woth Gaming? Yes localdimming medium works not well with gamemode but the high setting os curiosly as good as that off the videomode
I use high setting specifically the whole time with gaming otherwise there is just too many fluctuations. Its just a core problem within many backlit TVs
@@TechWithKG ah you mean the brightness fluctuation? I can promise you that the x95l don t has this problem, i think this a bug with the tonemapping on the B9 and will fix in the near future via New firmenware
That and lights in the distance not being properly lit, camera movement causing lighting trails etc I think the more advanced backlighting may just be slower to adjust but I’ve heard people have similar complaints on the X95L and I have a trusted source who reviewed it tell me it was having the typical lcd gaming issues. Unfortunately it is just a downside you have to mark down when it comes to most if not all LCDs.
@@TechWithKG acutally the B9 has the fastes backlight recording to rtings and yes the x95l is significantly slower in the regard. The small highlight issue can be solve if sony help the medium setting to improve
Man, that QN900D seems to suffer a lot from blooming. How do those TVs even trade blows when that blooming control doesn't come near the Bravia 9. At least in this clip, it is not even close.
They do it varies from scene to scene for example the QN900D has a better black bar algorithm for movies and also it does better with gaming probably because of more physical zones.
Which screen size did you review? (No, I haven't watched the video yet, but I will, so I'll delete this comment if you've mentioned it in the video). Just watched the video. It *looks* like a 65" Bravia9?
Yes but they all are capable of the same results, 85” will perform slightly better because of an arguably better panel being used but peak brightness is identical and the color is as well. As for the backlight issues they are going to be tighter at higher sizes because you’re getting more zones but they still exist and that’s been my experience with Sony LCDs in the past.
Yes this will vary from unit to unit so I don’t call it out in reviews but my set did have a little bit of DSE nothing that would distract me or make most people return it though. I’ve heard instances of worse DSE and some who claim little DSE so it’s like usual a luck based thing.
@@TechWithKG , thanks once again for the reply! Yes, I feared it might be a panel lottery. Personally I think for a flagship especially that this shouldn't be the case. In England 75" is the smallest screen for the B9, and although I wouldn't have gone for the 65" version anyway, I dread to think what a pain it will be having to try to re-box and return (which would likely incur return postal charges) a 75"+ screen because of subpar panels resulting in DSE. So far this is my only concern regarding the B9.
@@NexGenTek No, but Samsung sucks too, the TCL is up there with the Sony Bravia 9, Samsung’s quality control blows, I’ll never buy another Samsung anything again
Th8s is cap. I saw both. Sure, the 9 is brighter, but it lacks the detail of 8. Unless your tv is in a room exposed to direct sunlight, there's no reason to have that much brightness. Still like the colors on qd-oled better.
Even in a bright room, all modern OLEDs get bright enough to look great. I have a LG C3 and it gets every bit as bright as I want when I open my blinds and let in the daylight. People trying to tell you that you need 4000 nits is marketing hype. Not reality.
Dolby vision looked pretty good on this TV but I still preferred HDR 10 like I did on A95L so I’m not really sure if it’s much better. So far I’ve only really seen one tv from Sony where I was happy with DV day one and that was A95K.
Have you compared anti reflection quality of the different TVs? How much difference does the additional brightness of the Bravia 9 make in bright rooms in daylight watching conditions regarding how good you can still see the image contents?
"Sorry, but I must say that the BRAVIA 9 and LG G4 in vivid mode are very, very similar, even identical in terms of brightness. I had the opportunity to compare them in the store for 2 hours! Best regards"
@@Time-Travelling-Lesbian Rtings shows it can hit 2900 nits in a 65inch. People on the forums are measuring 3400nits and keep in mind the 75 and 85 have higher dimming zone counts the 85 has over 1300 more zones. Sustained is outrageous. I’m talking more of flashes. That’s usually how highlights happen.
In SDR, with a static image like tennis or ice hockey, the Bravia 9 is naturally brighter! But in a 4K HDR movie, the Bravia 9 and the G4 are the same. And 2000 nits on an LED TV and 2000 nits on an OLED are not the same!! Infinite Kontrast and dinamik tone mapping is a very important thing
Now arguing that for people who watch in vivid should consider B9 - accuracy is Sony main strength - if we forfeit it then TCL and Hisense are entering chat and crashing Sony in brightness as well as value for money. That’s why B9 is positioned very awkwardly contrast not high enough to compete with OLEDs and not enough bright/good value/big to take on tcl/hisense. The latter already offer better tech with outstanding peak brightness and number of dimming zones. Their transition to high end TVs just began and they make giant leaps each year. Sure we can hype up Sony intelligent backlight but let’s be honest: this is to replace higher number of dimming zones. TV with 10k dimming zones will be brighter and with better contrast than Sony backlight/2k dimming zones can achieve. Saying this totally I agree mini LED domain should be not accuracy but inaccurate cinema/vivid where they can still shine over OLED whilst they can.
I have had several Sony XBR’s. I think the are great but only for the first 2 years. After that the software is soooooooo laggy and unusable. It is impossible to go from 1 app to the next. Will never buy them again. I will give LG a try
Thank you for uploading in HDR - you can clearly now see the differences.
Glad to finally get HDR going whenever possible
@@TechWithKG Are all your future videos on your channel going to be in HDR? Or specific ones?
@@asafblasbergvideographer most will be any that won't be is stream clips or maybe some talking head videos but any videos with the main focus on the TVs should be in HDR with the exception of this year where some videos may not have been shot with the HDR format idea in mind (meaning I shot them earlier this year)
The XR precessor is not one of the best, is THE BEST in the business.
Doubt, QN900D has a better processor.
@@Malinkadink nope
@@Malinkadink definitely not. Samsung's processors lag behind, though the LG alpha 11 seems to get pretty close
Bro sony n xr's days are done..
NO, the Panasonic HCX Pro AI Processor MK II is...
To everyone that said the B9 couldn’t compete with OLED, surprise! It can!
@@madpistol no, it cant
@@trewright1482no one who has seen both side by side is saying this
Local dimming zones will never come close to oled.
Nope 😂
@bleachedwhale I have seen them side by side and oled is far superior in contrast. Micro Led will be the only led TV technology that dethrones oled IMO
I own the 75" B9 and it's outstanding. Great video👍🏼
Good choice! Thank you
I recently purchased a Sony Bravia 9, I'm thinking of setting up the Google TV on initial set up. As of now, I use an Amazon Firestick 4K Max on my current LG OLED. I don't have any applications installed on my Google Home application. When I set up the Sony Bravia 9 initially with Google TV, will I need to independently download each app to the Google TV like I did with the Firestick? I'm unfamiliar with Google TV/Home and how it works, thanks.
Yo KG! My 77 G3 looks lifeless next to my new 85" QM8 and Bravia 9. I think I might be done with OLED unless something drastically changes. Am i crazy?
Not crazy at all it can look that way in certain situations and depending on what mode you watch. G3 has a major game mode issue as well if you’re gaming at all. Bigger size also helps skew perception a bit more too.
Had my 85 inch Bravia 9 for few weeks now ,,it’s got better over time,,best tv I’ve owned…😮
@@sparkiegaz3613 it's the best LCD TV ever
How has it gotten better? I am getting my 85 inch on next Wednesday.
Hi mate av got x95l I love it got it 6 months ago think it's amazing but is it still a great TV compared to bravia 9 or should I have waiting for bravia 9?? Thanks
@@ChrisCurran-p9r to be honest feller if your happy with it and let’s be honest who has two tv next to one another picking faults with either,,,live with it wait til prices fall and then if looking to upgrade ide definitely get the B 9 it’s amazed me far more than first thought, 👍👍
Thanks 👍
Great review KG. I think brightness gets swept under the carpet too much these days so thankyou for highlighting the benefits.
Mini led may not give the depth but my god it has the wow factor!
Dam this video looks spectacular in HDR
Glad to hear it that’s hopefully going to be the standard of this channel whenever possible
Yeah, this TV really deserves the extra effort of HDR. Looks much better. Thanks, KG.
Thanks for the detailed, but not overly lengthy content. Loved your your point about this model not being the best in the contrast challenge, but overall being a lot more impactful that the competition. Would've loved to see a segment on the superior sound produced by the Bravia 9 seeing how reviewers are so impressed by it. Better yet, how it compares to the competition that require additional equipment to provide that audio oomph. Cheers!
When i watched your G4 Oled comparison vs this TV. I knew youd like this more after you dialed everything in. Sonys color performance, their shaprning are so next level. Mini-leds give me an Oled except theyre brighter. Id argue they are a more true HDR experience. SONY choosing their flagships to be mini-led is the right move and i cant wait for them to make a 42 inch version. They are worth the premium honestlym Cheers.
Why are people obsessed with brightness??? I want to watch a movie. Play a game. But I don't want to fry my eyes
This lol. I bought an LG Evo C4 and it was killing my eyes. Had to return it.
Yea it's important, but only to a point.
My Sony A80J was definitely too dark. My A95L in SDR is... ok. In HDR though? My eyeballs are being fried.
Yeah I have an S95C in a dark room and cant even look at it sometimes. I guess if its in a sunlit room or something?
Peak brightness is not about raising the average brightness of a TV. It is about a more detailed HDR presentation.
@@Mx22-qt1yewhy not just turn down the brightness
B9 or S95D please ? Should I be scared of burnin ?
Also is the anti reflecting coating good on the B9 ? Thanks ! 🙂
Coating can be a problem for overhead lights that reflect on the TV if you have any that stay on, you will get a rainbow streak, other than that it’s pretty decent nowhere near the S95D at eliminating reflections though. This decision will come down to how you plan to watch, or if you game. If you game a lot go S95D for sure.
@@TechWithKG Thanks a lot KG for your answer, so for you burnin is not an issue with a S95D please ? :) Thanks 🙏
@@sound4labelburning? Dude burning isn't an issue anymore
@@Damnitgary O RLY? Tell that to the G3 on display at my local Best Buy that has about 30% of the screen burned-in with different artifacts...
My dream is watching Dune Part Two on a Bravia 9 but the price is very too high for me. I really appreciate the fact that you give us a 4K UHD with HDR videos. That's why I love your content so much thanks !
Been wanting to do HDR UA-cam videos for awhile so happy to finally be able to deliver it without really many downsides.
LG G4 in my opinion is the safest and best future-proof TV.
my second option would be Bravia 9
The pixel response and clarity in motion on LG G4 what makes me only preferring OLED over miniLED
G4 is 💩
@randomhumanonearth777 Diversity is good
I like the clearer TV, G4 OLED suits my use case better.
The G4 gets very hot in HDR so I have my doubts regarding life span
@caclclo G4 and A95L has heatsink for this reason
LED can stand very high temperature
it's okay my friend buy what serves you the best in terms of features
the temperature of the panel is not a concern.
I'll be going for Professional mode on the Bravia 9, as I prefer accuracy.
Great Video. I ordered mine (75”) and is arriving on August 2nd 😍
Nice! Enjoy!
My B9 65" is coming on Aug 5th... congrats!
For the money they want for B9 I'd probably just get an A95L , I think they need to really lower the prices even beyond the latest deals.
B9 needs to be at least a $400/$500 price difference
In my country the G4 83' is much cheaper than the 85" B9 , though just released , but Sony being Sony , won't see discounts for a long time . There is no one TV to rule them all - neither win on size vs 98"-115" . Most of the latest Tvs will make most people happy. People saying that this TV or that TV is best without conditions is being silly . our man here says you want vivid , like vivid get this TV - ie conditional . Again just remember 2025 LG, TCL, Sony Samsung TVs will be better again , so your best TV no longer is. Good chance Sony's tech it's TCL tech anyway ( the controllable dimming zones ) - Tech seen on other TVs, and Sony is not crowing as exclusive patented Sony tech . So keep than in mind as this TV will be beaten with NIT monsters in coming years , including by Sony who want a natural 4000Nits , and a high 100% screen as well
In canada there is a price difference of $1000.00 canadian ($722.00 US) between the 65 inch A95L and the B9. That goes up to $2200.00 ($1590.00 US) between the 77'' A95L and the 75" B9. On Sony's US website ,I see that they have similar price differences. $1000.00 for the 65" and $1500.00 for the 75/77''. That is significant price differences in my view.
Such a monster tv, every time I fire up my ps5 I’m blown away and feel like it makes everything look better, and I’m coming from OLED
Brightness difference if you’re coming from older OLED TVs can definitely hit different
For Filmic viewing - is it true the Bravia 9 has more shadow detail than a95L / OLED - due to the higher brightness?? So shadow detail will always be ahead + brighter highlights??
Shadow detail is a little lifted with the B9, but there are no artifacts, like dithering noise, chrominance overshoot, or pulsing/flashing behavior that OLEDs sometimes deal with. The detail is all easy to see on the B9. So a lot of the time I do observe more shadow detail on this TV. How much shadow detail we were *intended* to observe is where it gets tricky. Both mini LED and OLED will both struggle with shadow detail in their own ways, because it's such a challenge in general. This is a long way to say that they are both wrong but you can still have a preference.
PS> You mentioned the word "filmic" and that is not exactly an easy term to define for everyone, but I would use that word to describe this TV. Movies look rich and always natural.
@@444chroma Great reply - that makes a lot of sense - I do enjoy clean shadow detail in films, Sicario night shots are my benchmark - but sounds like I may lean to the B9 - going to hopefully check it out in person soon :)
Easy to dial in whatever level of shadow detail you want.
A calibration would nail it.
Totally happy with my Bravia 8. They are priced within $200 of each other, and yes totally get that the Bravia 9 as a Mini-LED with the updated backlight Master Drive to really drive up those speculat highlight nits..... but the Bravia 8 OLED for me gave a more balanced picture. But that's the wonderful thing of choice: you choose whats best for your use case.
Love my choice of the B8, just as I'm sure others love their choice of the B9, the B7, the A95L, the C4, or the G4 etc.
Bravia 8 is waste, why not to get A95L for same money? Or g4, s95d
@ebayer1980 for the same money, the A95L set would have been smaller. The next time you are in an electronic store like Best Buy or Value Electronics etc..... compare the two. They're actually closer and comparable in general mixed use. Not a waste at all, but again, that's just my opinion. But like I said, that's a wonderful thing about choice. Anyone can choose whatever set they want and prefer for their use case and dollars spent, without crapping on other's choices
@@dmarable79 I am still undecided between the Bravia 8 77" and the Bravia 9 75". How do you like the Bravia 8 so far? WiFi performance, glossy screen, shadow details, black crushing, SDR brightness, viewing in a bright room, etc. Those are the concerns that I have read but you know, tv fanatics always find something to criticize. ;) I am leaning more towards the Bravia 8 right now.
@williambroth7784 Hi!! Personally I am very much enjoying The Bravia 8! Starting off with the screen it's the Evo panel that is similar to the C4, G4, A90j, A95L (although not QD), so specular highlights due to HDR/DV is fantastic. It doesn't get as bright as the A95L nor the Bravia 9, but it does get bright!
It doesn't Black Crush, and that's one thing I love about Sony is that they care more about Shadow detail and just detail overall. Seriously no regrets on this. What I would say is also make sure to go to your local electronics store whether it's Best Buy, or Value Electronics or anywhere else and just see it for yourself so that way you can get a really good idea what it's like. To me it's kind of like the 900e of oleds this year. It doesn't have a standout feature, but it's a well balanced set.... that just does everything well.
@@dmarable79 Thanks for the answer! It is appreciated!
I am actually curious to see the Bravia 7 vs the 9 because I find contrast near impossible to tell apart between LEDs and OLEDs at this point.
Heck, even a video from 2017 of the Z9D and an OLED really doesn't make the case for the OLED. Brightness is the OLED's achilles heel and gaming is the LED's achilles heel since it can't dim to 400,000.
Same here, I was thinking of getting the Bravia 7 around november and I’m upgrading from a low tier samsung if 2016, so it will be amazing by comparison
had the lg g4 and that tv was dim as helll or should i say wasn't bright enough for me so is bravia 9 really the best mini led tv of this year? besides tcl qm8 and hisense u8n?
Yes, best of the year so far. Hisense hasn't released the new U9N yet and it has the best chance to compete with the B9
You're real, your reviews are real. Any news on bravia 9 next gen mini led? Any sony 8k mini led tv in 2025? Thanks
Thank you! I haven’t heard anything yet about 8K Sony has neglected 8k 2 years in a row now, but I can’t say they gave up on it, I guess there is always a chance seeing as they released an 8k cinema camera this year, you’d think they’d want to push that medium further. I wouldn’t expect it but it wouldn’t surprise me.
Price is ridiculous
Not as crazy as G4 83 inch cost$$
you get what you pay for. wait until BF
for the 85"? that seems like a good price for a massive TV of this quality.
Hey kg. In this video you mention the G4 colors arent as good as B9, however, in your comparison video between the two last week the G4 colors were much punchier and more saturated. What am i missing?
G4 colors will look more vibrant due to better contrast. once contrast is compromised, our perception of colors suffers as well. At 65" size G4 is a way better TV.
On camera, a brighter TV might appear more washed out in its highlights next to a dimmer TV, depending on exposure levels.
I really wish this we’re easier to explain and show but unfortunately the camera doesn’t tell the whole story here, I wish that video were done in HDR with the format I use now because it’s easier to capture color now. At times cameras can struggle to capture color at high brightness levels I hope to revisit the comparison with HDR footage because I did manage to capture some when I had them side by side but I didn’t have the HDR format when I did the comparison video posted. Hopefully this helps.
Yes certainly not the easiest thing to capture, my new HDR format will make this a bit better on the future
Hi pal I have this tv superb so far do you have any picture settings for movies hdr & game hdr?
Nice video again - HDR is great. Can’t wait for next one.
As you mentioned out of box G4 is less colourful but if you modify tone mapping it will get close enough?
One thing to mention is B9 will lose contrast/colours off angle - if you have seats at 40 degree or more - PQ will suffer.
Higher brightness is nice - but better contrast adds more to PQ. You can mod s95d to get 3k peak brightness also. That means OLEDs are bound to get brighter soon.
In darker room you would not utilise B9 brightness as it would be blinding. 1000 nits can be so definitely 3000 will. Only good 98" LED would convince me over OLED. At the moment happy to pay 10% more and get 83" G4.
If Sony released 98" B9 for sensible price then yeah. Waiting to see 98" TCL vs 98" UX Hisense flagships before deciding. Number of dimming zones they are pushing is nearly 10x bigger than Sony - no fancy backlight control needed. Cheaper and brighter also. Just need to wait for this to come to 98” size. For time being 77/83” OLED will do.
Saying this would like to see that tv in vivid as you suggesting, I think you might be right there.
I'm wondering if SDR metrics are the most valuable for most people? For example, most people I talk to have the Netflix standard plan (non HDR). Outside of XBOX/PC/PS5 gaming (non Nintendo Switch) and the few of us that pixel peep. I wonder how many people are actually watching HDR content these days? Would be an interesting data point. Bravia 9 + Q8M destroy most TVs in SDR.
I’m not KG but I can hypothesize that most people couldn’t even care less most movies games TV and UA-cam videos are still in rec 709 and HLG very few movies or games even are in the DCI P3 color space and even if they are, they are most likely display P3
most people with Netflix std plan won't spend that much on tv either - they will have a cheaper smaller tv. Enthusiasts get top of the line and most definitely get best quality content.
@@whitecrowuk575 that makes sense. I'm curious if early adopters just buy the most expensive or "best" based on Best Buy sales associate recommendation.
I might equate this to guys who buy a Porsche 911 Turbo S, but then put Hankook tired on it because
they fit, and are much cheaper. I see this all the time.
Gets expensive TV, puts cheap content on it.
Everyone watches 4k HDR, at least anyone who cares about Picture quality. Why would you pay that much money for a TV and watch SDR lol?? You buy a TV like the Bravia 9 for HDR and 4K, not SDR, come on.
I still remember your video of it raining using the X930E and your review blew me away. Oh how far we’ve come!!
I ditched my S95B for Bravia 7. Damm I never thought I would buy an LED TV and now I was blown away by it's picture quality. Dolby Vision content looks Unreal on Bravia 7.
Glad you are enjoying your Bravia 7. Although the Samsung has better contrast, its active tone mapping is way worse than Dolby Vision on B7.
I have a S95B , never liked it, been thinking about Sony Bravia 7 or smallest screen in Bravia 9. What’s the off angle viewing like?
Well that was stupid 😂
@AndrewB23 Stupid? Put both TVs side by side and then call me Stupid again.
@@cenktheangel I have seen both the S95C and B7 side by side, and the S95C destroyed it, wasn't even close, and the S95C is only a little better than the S95B...
Is your bravia 9 calibrated?
I need to delay audio for a few milliseconds to match the TV box sound with the image on my new 75" B9. I can find the A/V Sync setting but it allows only for three options: Auto / On / Off... but none of them allows me to set a time delay like 20ms or 30ms... Is this not an option with the B9?
How well would this TV perform in a pitch-black room against QD-OLEDs? I currently have an a95k and the only drawback for me is that it only has 65'. I was wondering between the Bravia 9 and the a95l. Wouldn't the Bravia's 9 HDR brightness be too uncomfortable in reference mode in a dark room?
I have the 77 a95l and the 75 b9 side by side in my dark room.
Pick your poison, they battle each other back and forth in every scene in HDR.
@@Nath6aniel - Any OLED will beat an LCD panel in a black room.
Hey KG, as a G4 owner, should I return it for a Bravia 9? I game and watch sports a ton so I feel MINI LED is the better panel type for me. Great review buddy!
I have an LG G3 oled honestly it’s amazing so far
Bought that for my father last christmas and I was impressed.
yep color volume is important.
My c1 and s95b will do just fine. Lol
I have a really bright room, windows on opesite side of the TV, Is this a TV to go for or do you recommend samting else lake S95D?
For a bright room I’d definitely recommend mini LED like the Bravia 9.
Thanks for the review! Do you have a Black Friday estimate for the 75 inch?
2799 is my guess
@@TechWithKGthanks!!
For gaming : if I’m only playing story driven games and I only care about picture quality. I don’t care about 144hz, hdmi 2.1 etcc. Is it the best choice ?
Very convincing review. And a Tv that silences most critics. Only, availability of its sizes on various continents and its steep price shall make it unbotainable for many prospective buyers !
Thanks KG. I said it on the very first video - take time and test this TV. Wih you could have gotten the 85" instead. Great reassessment. Thisi s the vibe
Oh yeah there was always going to be a full review with this one it’s a great TV that fits a specific type of scenario almost perfectly. 85” isn’t that much better btw same brightness and color just more zones but that’s not a big issue with the Bravia 9, outside of what I said gaming but I’d imagine the same is true for 85” you still will get the flash-lighting and backlighting fluctuations
Hey KG! Great video as usual, my question is how the viewing angles in comparison to OLED's, as I need a TV for wide viewing.
Really wanted a new TV this year, but now the one I want S95D has the matte finish...
The "LCD issues" that continue to exist, particularly in gaming, have me happy that I went to QD-OLED and will likely never go back to LCD. I can't STAND the backlight issues. Also, the bigger you go with LCD, the more you can see smearing in motion. Particularly in games. My last LCD was a larger (75") mini LED and the motion was pretty bad on it. I got sort of used to it for movies and shows, but for gaming it was extremely distracting. It essentially looked like every game I played had a mild motion blur enabled. Upgraded to QD-OLED and everything looks fantastic now. So yeah I'll pass on the extremely high brightness (even though I love some good bright HDR) in exchange for an overall more stable and consistent image
What about burnin ? I could choose the S95D instead of B9 but I'm scared of Burnin ?
@sound4label Don't be. I'm not. I used Plasmas back when everyone was scared of burn in and never had issues. I've had S90C for several months with no issue. And based off of rtings torture testing, don't think there's any reason for anyone to be afraid of burn in. LG has made their WOLED panels better against burn in over the years and Samsung seems to even be notably better than LG in that department.
@@stephenpatterson8056 thanks I like the S95D for the anti reflective coating, if Burnin is fixed, I could consider it :)
@sound4label From my experience, burn in has only really ever been an issue for these types of displays with users that just totally mishandle them and abuse them. Shouldn't be an issue at all as long as you use it like a normal person
The coating on the S95D has had zero impact on image quality for me, except that I can now game with bright lights on
I agree with you KG this B9 does look next-level good. I have the 2020 TCL R635 miniled, so I can imagine how good this Sony miniled is with its awesome processing Sony is known for.
I would consider one if they offered a 98” size.. other wise Ill go OLED. I just bought a perfect 83” G4.
how are you enjoying it so far? I'm planning on getting a 77-inch G4 on Black Friday.
@@davidross7255 I had a 77” C1 and i couldn’t imagine something better.. but god! Everything is 10 times better. My eyes hurt from the brightness even with a well lit room. The colors are a lot better and saturated. Not tint and perfect uniformity. Perfect TV and ill hold on to it until the 97” get cheaper.
83s have really bad uniformity
@@NexGenTek More likely yes.. but man! the one i got is perfect.
@@davidross7255 Im pretty sure i replied to you! Did you get any notifications about. It was a long comment too
Excellent walk through KG. It's so good that Sony went back and put in this level of effort with Mini-LED. Some of us were waiting a long time!!
This TV seems special in the way that it kind of does everything well. The main draw for me is HDR impact, color, and increased shadow detail during movie watching. Also feel just feel a little extra peace of mind because it's a traditional backlit display so there is no concern for dimming, static pixels, or PC usage....no pixel shifting, compensation cycles etc. You are right this TV is at its best when the backlight is allowed to fully flex and push the light.
Your observation with game mode is also true, the pixel level control and instant response being a huge advantage for OLED when it comes to gaming. There is just not enough time for Sony to pre-process frames in advance for the B9's backlight while in game mode without introducing lag which is a big no no. Game mode is still good but if that's your MAIN thing you can do better.
Yup I would agree if gaming is the primary use case I’d suggest a TV like the S95D or G4. As well as the A95L that would suit gamers better than Bravia 9.
Thanks for the review. You know what’s funny… I went B8 to G4.. back (ran) to the B8.
What I’m saying is that I’m wondering if Bravia 8 brightness, processing etc etc is best for the aging population.
The G4 was kicking my butt with the peak brightness. Even lowering still hammered my eyes.
Anyway for anyone wondering the Bravia 8 really really really surprised me. Even game mode is legit!
The Bravia 9 is just not in my interest. I’m an oled person. Thanks for the review!
It terms of best tv in a bright room is the LG C4 or 90t better than the bravia 9?
C4 is W-OLED with no MLA enhancement so it will look close to what the Bravia 8 was I showed and QNED90T isn't very bright probably 1,000 nits peak and its no where close to the same level with a small amount of dimming zones for a Mini LED TV.
Hi man, what is your lg g4 clarity settings? On my LG C2, I set input to game console, so that I could use more features. I turned off allm, vrr, the reason behind this, is that with these turned off, processing features like clarity work better. Input lag is okay, good enough for story driven games.
In addition, I use cinema picture mode and Ai picture pro turned on, it upscales low res textures
But ai picture pro is tied to sharpness, without it, it won’t work. Also I use super resolution medium and sharpness 28. Ai picture pro work when sharpness is set to 25 or over, same with super resolution.
I am using this because, when playing in performance mode resolution suffers, and this workaround helps with that. I would appreciate if you could tell me your opinion and suggestions. Thank you KG😊
I would imagine that is quite high input lag you don’t notice it? I could never personally recommend that, if you want good game mode picture quality with lower input lag I think ALLM would be a must in this scenario. The moment you load in anything that requires a dodge or anything reactionary you would really be hindering your gameplay experience.
@@TechWithKG I think its good for story driven games, I just want good, sharp, picture quality.can you recommend me something? What clarity settings would you use KG. Thank you for your responses😊
Hey KG would you say Bravia 9's sound is better than A95L?
I personally think absolutely it is, you definitely have a fuller sense of surround sound with an emphasis on directional audio, it blew my mind with how good the sound did at filling the room.
Nice tv to expensive for what you get unfortunately! Maybe a black friday pickup if we got a nice sale .
I do drool over bravia 9's highend QD VA LCD panel 🤤
Thank you it was a great and honest review. You didn't discuss off angle? Why? That is my only concern. I am very inclined to buy this TV because of the sound and would love to know what you think with the Sony Quads. Will the dynamic range take it to a level no other TV can match?
That was my fault to omit off angle that’s an oversight but I did mention it in my first video but off angle is worse than on angle for sure like every mini led, blooming is more noticeable off angle. Color and contrast drops off but not as hard as those without angle filters. If you want good viewing angles you need to get a OLED TV.
Wait for W-HVA panels isf this is a concern
A lot of praise for the vivid mode. But I’m curious just how hard does this tv hit when it comes to hdr vs the QD/MLA. When the B9 is in professional/cinema mode compared to the others?
Is it worth getting for the extra pop in brightness then
Yes this tv has the best HDR presentation I’ve ever seen. Even in professional mode
In the professional mode no not really you don’t experience a ton of difference most of the time scenes can look really similar so any contrast advantage from OLED is more noticeable and I’d tend to favor them next to the Bravia 9, most show and movies are conservatively graded and have more dark scenes than anything. So really yeah not typically if we’re talking S95D A95L G4 but certain high APL scenes can look brighter on the Bravia 9 and if you manage to actually come across high graded content that is consistently showing high brightness scenes you can notice a difference. It’s definitely more noticeable when you’re next to a WOLED like the Bravia 8 though.
Can u link the sample video being shown ? 5:58
Seach Sony 4K demo on YT it's one of them
Wow, nice, and how about use it as a monitor?
I watch a lot of sports. Basketball and football to be exact. I also watch sports news. I currently have an S90C but wondering if I should get the Bravia 9. I do play Warzone often but I can do without it. Should I go with a G4 or Bravia 9. I also love to watch good quality movies.
I would really say it depends on your viewing style and if you’re in a bright or dark room. G4 will be the more crisp contrast driven image with the most depth but Bravia 9 will have the brightness advantage if using vivid or standard modes of your not using those modes go for the G4 especially since you mentioned FPS gaming like war zone.
@KG…Bravia 8 or Bravia 9 for a complete light controlled basement?
I feel like I wouldn’t be able to get the full benefit of the B9 in a basement setting which is its brightness. I simply won’t need it nearly as bright compared to if I was putting it in a sun drenched room.
If your watching content in professional mode or you get a reference calibration the difference will be less noticeable but Bravia 9 certainly still gave me a more pleasant experience even in professional mode I appreciate that extra HDR impact in a dark room but it really boils down to how you like to watch content.
@@TechWithKG So you’re saying with the correct picture mode/settings and lowering the brightness the B9 will look spectacular in a dark setting but also give you that HDR impact that OLEDS just can’t, especially the Bravia 8. 👍
The benefits of B9 still exist in a dark room
hello! For premium 4k netflix/amazon prime content? G4 or B9?
What mode do you watch in?
@@TechWithKG I still don't have a Tv, but i got a last gen qd-oled as a main monitor(aw2725df), I only use the mode with the most realistic colors i don't like enhanced/fake colors. I guess the A95L would be a choice aswell but cost almost 2k more than the lg4 in my country
In that case I’d say G4
I've had many Oleds and LED TVs. I have the 77" A90J now and a 65" Sony A95k. I must say, the biggest wow factor I ever got, is from my LED TVs. Sure the A95K looks amazing, but My Vizio LED, would be Jaw dropping on some bright scenes, back when I had that TV. Brightness makes things look like real life more, where the infinite contrast gives more depth. But WOW factor seems to come from brightness.
Totally agree, the same feelings
For whatever reason, BB has upped the price of the 75” to $3999 when Sony direct and Amazon still have it at $3499.
Edit - they fixed it. I think the 75B9 is a good value compared to the 77G4 and 77S95D. I would love a 77A95L but can’t justify the $5K asking price. 75B9 is much easier on the wallet and offers 85 - 90% of the performance plus brightness advantages.
Bob Baker is a nice person. Glad that they fixed the price for ya.
Im stuck in the same position, debating between oled or mini led. Its the 65” a95L vs 75” bravia 9. I feel like I definitely want the bigger size though, so that leaves me with the g4. Im afraid tho cause in best buy, the lg g4 looked really yellow at times when the sony looked white/clear/bright..
Can you explain a little more on how colors are better than on a WOLED like the LG G4?
Rtings probably breaks it down. The g4 has a better color gamut, it just doesn’t get as bright. The s95d has the best color gamut.
This tv looks awesome. Even though it doubles as a tanning bed lol. My G4 is so bright i had to lower pixel brightness.
I'd like a b7 vs b9 comparison I have a hunch they're not much different besides some brightness?
They are quite different the backlight control is nowhere on the same level as the 9, brightness difference isn’t actually that big though. I will compare in the near future
@@TechWithKG I know that's a biggie on led TV's but my 85" x90L doesn't even show any blooming and it has far less local dimming zones. I think the only problem with mine is some streaming services having smearing in dark scenes and contrast in say dark castles all blends in. Not sure if that can be fixed with led but we'll see?
Yeah more zones and better backlight control can help contrast a ton, which is why a LCD with minimal zones like the LG QNED90T can look kind of flat.
Let’s hope we get same dual oled technology Apple is using in the new IPads next year in TVs, seeing 1000 nits in fullscreen on an oled is really impressive.
Unfortunately I think this technology isn’t quite a possibility for large scale screens just yet
Deiced to wait until Sony releases another 98 inch tv. A 98 inch Sony with X95L tech and a new upscaling processor seems worth waiting for. I still might want to go all out for their next 8K tv too . Quality will improve every year, but you cannot replace a bigger screen or a higher resolution
“It hurts your eyes.” That’s why I never get all the fuss about Brightness. People r crazy.
This! I care about deep blacks, pure white, color volume, and proper accuracy of 480i all the way to 4K HDR content. I don't need a TV so bright that I go blind like if I was staring at the sun during a solar eclipse.
@@JonathanHochman1 Still OLED 😄
Appreciate the review, but my thoughts are the same as they've been for a long time. As much as sports watching is so prevalent in society, it's frustrating that very little content has been dedicated to how all of these TVs perform with live-action, fast-moving sports, like football, basketball, and soccer for those of us who want to make a decision with that very much in mind.
They are all so similar for this in the premium category and I can’t show copyrighted material especially sports is really strict, but I’ll eventually be filming some of my own sports content in the future
@@TechWithKG thank you in advance for doing this. I understand the idea that they're similar, but they're also similar in other categories. I'm just thinking that if I'm going to spend thousands of dollars on a product, I should be diligent enough to get it right the first time, and not have to spend even more on a reset.
No doubt I am a big sports watcher myself so I hope to find ways incorporate better ways to test it, but from what I’ve found it’s really splitting hairs at the top end, stick with the big 3 for sports LG Sony Samsung.
Side by side with A95L the B9 suffers from contrast in comparison. Also at 85 inches it needs 8K resolution. A95L is crisper at 65 inches. There's also blooming on the B9. Good video.
You can see pixels on the 85"?
@@Icipher4 I tested the 85 inch and it wasn't sharp.
@@TheHDRSuperchannel bummer. Is the 83 G4 any sharper?
@@Icipher4 you know what? I'm in Canada and G4 is not available to see in stores side by side. But that said the G3 looks amazing I saw it with my eyes side by side and it was a 77 inch TV. So I believe the G4 will look even better.
100% agree with you, Jennifer. Maybe it is the Canadian B9s that are different but the B9s that I tried had no where near OLED contrast.
Guys, if your main use is gaming, please do not get the Bravia 9. G4 and S95D are miles better once properly set up. :)
It’s not tho. Check the forums lot of gaming problems. Bravia 9 looks exquisite while gaming
I chose the S95D for the gaming given it has the highest color luminance and top end gaming features.
It is, surprisingly, better than my S90C by a significant margin
@@ehenningsen in a dark room, S95D calibrated to BT2020 is untouchable in gaming. (default game mode is horrible though) I am sending G4 back for another hopefully non-faulty S95D!
How does the Bravia 9 compare to the Z9K in brightness and performance?
The Z9 series are known to hit close to 4000 nits specular highlights and has 85 watt audio setup.
Bro stop asking it beats the Z9K in every way. No one will tell you different promise
Z9K is bright, but uncontrolled bright. It's not a comparison with the new backlight technology in the B9. Both will get bright enough to stain your shadow into the wall behind you.
@@NexGenTek Its worth a try cause im trying to pick between them 😅...everytime I ask I just get the "Its better" but Im trying to get to how much better it is.
Im thinking Z9K cause it can do close to 4000 nits...all reviews about the Bravia 9 I saw and read says the it does 2800 nits but better contrast...but then theres few that says it can do close to 4000 nits also but cant tell me where the review is at.
And theres the audio as well, the Bravia 9 has a 70 watt 2.2.2 system and the Z9K has a 85 watt 2.2.2 system ( I dont use my audio system all the time )
Just really curious, so Ima keep asking someone until maybe someone can make a proper comment...sorry
@@AnythingGoesJoJo They both do close to 4000 nits at 85. I told you to ask on the forums they’ll probably be happy to repost their findings it’s not a review. No reviewer has the 85inch. Bravia 9 audio it’s going to be much better and the world’s first tv with over the head frame tweeter. Also the local dimming zones destroy the Z9Ks local dimming. I don’t think you’re trying to choose seems more like justifying your already purchased Z9K.
@@NexGenTekNo not that...I know the Bravia 9 is better, I am asking is how much better...But so far everytime I ask I get answers like "No camparison", "Superior", "Cant touch it"...which is just fluff to me.
Like I said before Im still going with the Z9K for my use case...Im trying to look for data how much better the Bravia 9 is. Im not trying to pick a fight.
You said the 85" model can do 3400 nits, Im not arguing that but Im asking where did you get that information?
I asked you for a link in the other video but I didnt get any.
Excellent review.
The sony Bravia is a amazing in my opinion far better than the Samsung 2024 8k tv seen them side by side ,for me personally it's nothing like infinite contrast especially and the combo of color brightness on a qd oled .
Samsung are mediocre at making TVs they only kwow how to "make" galaxy phones.
@@Soclean07 I agree
I have one but they need to update the software. If the TV is on longer then 6 hours. The sound goes innto what I call side band mode. It literally sounds like a Ham radio in side band. I rather have to reboot the TV from the menu or unplug it. It Does not matter if it's on an app, OTA or hdmi input. It's like a software memory leak I am guessing.
Please do a side by side video of the bravia 9 vs a95L and/or the G4
Got one vs G4
@@TechWithKG the lg has a yellowish tint vs sony tvs? Can that be changed to look more like sony
Do you see a lot or a little blooming in hdr content?
Minimal blooming for sure it should be a non issue in most content, but of course it’s still there in really challenging circumstances if you want to go looking for it you’ll find it but nothing distracting from typical viewing experiences on this TV. Off angle like every mini led TV though blooming is far more prevalent.
@@TechWithKG Ok. Thanks. I'm still watching with my LG C7 but it has burn in now, so weighing up my options.
Keep in mind C7 and before had a red subpixel issue causing quicker bouts of burn in that has been addressed since they are much more reliable and have more protective settings in place.
@@TechWithKG That's good to know. Thanks.
Don't forget about the TCL 851G....
I'm sorry but the HDMI inputs are a deal breaker for a lot of people buying high end tvs. Secondly, even though it's a very good led TV, it doesn't come close to oled. I purchased the Bravia 9, returned it for a QN900D, then returned that one as well for an LG G4. Best decision ever!
Should have bought a qd oled, woleds, even with MLA, dont compare
@enzopied3015 the matte screen on the S95D was a no for me as blacks looked gray because of light reflection. The A95L has the same HDMI inputs as the Bravia 9 which leaves me only with a G4.
Good choice for gaming G4 is a monster TV
What are your problems woth Gaming? Yes localdimming medium works not well with gamemode but the high setting os curiosly as good as that off the videomode
I use high setting specifically the whole time with gaming otherwise there is just too many fluctuations. Its just a core problem within many backlit TVs
@@TechWithKG ah you mean the brightness fluctuation? I can promise you that the x95l don t has this problem, i think this a bug with the tonemapping on the B9 and will fix in the near future via New firmenware
That and lights in the distance not being properly lit, camera movement causing lighting trails etc I think the more advanced backlighting may just be slower to adjust but I’ve heard people have similar complaints on the X95L and I have a trusted source who reviewed it tell me it was having the typical lcd gaming issues. Unfortunately it is just a downside you have to mark down when it comes to most if not all LCDs.
@@TechWithKG acutally the B9 has the fastes backlight recording to rtings and yes the x95l is significantly slower in the regard. The small highlight issue can be solve if sony help the medium setting to improve
Man, that QN900D seems to suffer a lot from blooming. How do those TVs even trade blows when that blooming control doesn't come near the Bravia 9.
At least in this clip, it is not even close.
They do it varies from scene to scene for example the QN900D has a better black bar algorithm for movies and also it does better with gaming probably because of more physical zones.
Which screen size did you review? (No, I haven't watched the video yet, but I will, so I'll delete this comment if you've mentioned it in the video).
Just watched the video. It *looks* like a 65" Bravia9?
Yes but they all are capable of the same results, 85” will perform slightly better because of an arguably better panel being used but peak brightness is identical and the color is as well. As for the backlight issues they are going to be tighter at higher sizes because you’re getting more zones but they still exist and that’s been my experience with Sony LCDs in the past.
@@TechWithKG , thanks for the reply! Have you noticed any DSE (Dirty Screen Effect) with the Bravia 9, I've been hearing things about it.
Yes this will vary from unit to unit so I don’t call it out in reviews but my set did have a little bit of DSE nothing that would distract me or make most people return it though. I’ve heard instances of worse DSE and some who claim little DSE so it’s like usual a luck based thing.
@@TechWithKG , thanks once again for the reply! Yes, I feared it might be a panel lottery. Personally I think for a flagship especially that this shouldn't be the case. In England 75" is the smallest screen for the B9, and although I wouldn't have gone for the 65" version anyway, I dread to think what a pain it will be having to try to re-box and return (which would likely incur return postal charges) a 75"+ screen because of subpar panels resulting in DSE. So far this is my only concern regarding the B9.
If its the one thne we should call it the Sony Bravia Neo.
Samsung has something to do say about that naming lol
The TCL QM851G is better, brighter and costs less than half
It’s worse and More washed you mean
@@NexGenTek No, but Samsung sucks too, the TCL is up there with the Sony Bravia 9, Samsung’s quality control blows, I’ll never buy another Samsung anything again
Th8s is cap. I saw both. Sure, the 9 is brighter, but it lacks the detail of 8. Unless your tv is in a room exposed to direct sunlight, there's no reason to have that much brightness. Still like the colors on qd-oled better.
Even in a bright room, all modern OLEDs get bright enough to look great. I have a LG C3 and it gets every bit as bright as I want when I open my blinds and let in the daylight. People trying to tell you that you need 4000 nits is marketing hype. Not reality.
Is Dolby Vision better on the B9 than the A95L?
Dolby vision looked pretty good on this TV but I still preferred HDR 10 like I did on A95L so I’m not really sure if it’s much better. So far I’ve only really seen one tv from Sony where I was happy with DV day one and that was A95K.
Where is that 98” Bravia 9 though?
That thing would be like 20k 😂
Have you compared anti reflection quality of the different TVs? How much difference does the additional brightness of the Bravia 9 make in bright rooms in daylight watching conditions regarding how good you can still see the image contents?
"Sorry, but I must say that the BRAVIA 9 and LG G4 in vivid mode are very, very similar, even identical in terms of brightness. I had the opportunity to compare them in the store for 2 hours! Best regards"
3000 nits vs 1500 umm there’s probably a bigger problem here
They really aren’t especially in SDR with sports I spent 2 weeks with them next to each other.
@@NexGenTek Rtings has the sustained brightness of the Bravia 9 at 2200 Nits
@@Time-Travelling-Lesbian Rtings shows it can hit 2900 nits in a 65inch. People on the forums are measuring 3400nits and keep in mind the 75 and 85 have higher dimming zone counts the 85 has over 1300 more zones. Sustained is outrageous. I’m talking more of flashes. That’s usually how highlights happen.
In SDR, with a static image like tennis or ice hockey, the Bravia 9 is naturally brighter! But in a 4K HDR movie, the Bravia 9 and the G4 are the same. And 2000 nits on an LED TV and 2000 nits on an OLED are not the same!! Infinite Kontrast and dinamik tone mapping is a very important thing
Best sounding quality? so funny KG, no Panasonic MZ2000 and Z95A spanks the Sony for picture and sound...
A95l dosent come in 85" anything below that dosent give me the cinema bug. Av got x95l 85" cant be happier
This is THE THE one...according to the thumbnail
Amazing tv
It’s definitely that for sure
Good deal.
Now arguing that for people who watch in vivid should consider B9 - accuracy is Sony main strength - if we forfeit it then TCL and Hisense are entering chat and crashing Sony in brightness as well as value for money. That’s why B9 is positioned very awkwardly contrast not high enough to compete with OLEDs and not enough bright/good value/big to take on tcl/hisense. The latter already offer better tech with outstanding peak brightness and number of dimming zones. Their transition to high end TVs just began and they make giant leaps each year.
Sure we can hype up Sony intelligent backlight but let’s be honest: this is to replace higher number of dimming zones. TV with 10k dimming zones will be brighter and with better contrast than Sony backlight/2k dimming zones can achieve.
Saying this totally I agree mini LED domain should be not accuracy but inaccurate cinema/vivid where they can still shine over OLED whilst they can.
Unfortunately no 65'' model :/
Thanks
I have had several Sony XBR’s. I think the are great but only for the first 2 years. After that the software is soooooooo laggy and unusable. It is impossible to go from 1 app to the next. Will never buy them again. I will give LG a try
Fireworks test pls and bravia 9 r.i.p.
The eratic back light behavior and in gaming and limited contrast would drive me insane, no thanks