boom cooking within 5 seconds of the vid starting LOOOL (EDIT) WAIT why am I in here LMAOO, wifeline won't ever be as good as fast heal shield but that was WAY too unhealthy for the overall game at the time
As a Valk main, I only play conduit now. I miss playing Valk but conduit's utility is way too useful. I get use out of conduits speed boost alot too lol it's nice for venturing a little further and rushing back when anyone needs help
I think old revenants abilities would've been better with the current apex gameplay with the health bar above enemies and no jitter from taking damage, he might've been a little OP honestly
I dropped a purple shield to one shot but they probably had a low helmet. But blue is 2 shots no matter where you shoot. Vantage is an easy S teir, it's just you have how everyone sees her, then you have how she can truly play when you play her alot. Jumping away from your team may seem bad, but it may make their cover smaller, or draw them away from the 2 teammates pushing. She is king, well I guess Queen, at stopping a third party push, 2 hits will buy you time, 3 very well could stop them all together. (At least it has for me) Which allowed us to finish the fight without getting third partied. Being the third party, smart shots to get as many people down as possible before the party. (If I see a 2v1, and I know we are gonna go third party, I'll shoot at the 2 to make it easier for us) Being chased after a loss, idk if there is any better legend right now that's better than her. To echo ahead, right after a corner or up to hight. Break line of sight pulling out her sniper, 2 shots to down or at the very least make them stop and heal. Than echo out. Honestly it's soooo much fun getting chased down by a team just to find a place to pull that on them. And chasing a person, I mean echo and a sniper, it doesn't get much easier. And there's things I'm still working on with her. To use echo, low to the ground, slide past their cover and light them up. Most people don't associate her sounds with that, so most don't expect me to go sliding by at speed, even though they hear me close by. But it definitely isn't easy. Choosing the side to jump, placing echo properly, knowing where their team is, are you teammates in a position to make the enemy look at the corner for the push. I also wanna try using echo to jump straight up to get hight for a sniper shot, kinda like a horizon utility, but I'm not sure about the uses of it. Might be more of a showoff thing than actually usable. I'ma have to recording vids on my Xbox, I just don't know how to get them off of it. I'm not a pro or anything like that, but I do have my times. But I haven't really seen anybody using Vantage to her full potential. Yeah people play her, but they play her how they think she should be played, but she has a more unique play style. You can't really think how you think playing most other legends. She doesn't benefit in a close quarter fight, that is true. All her stuff is mid to long range. So I can see why most people that like that close quarters, jumping around, chaos, would be able to use her. Because she does lack there. But for people that like the mid to long range, the people who think about fights at a distance and not in your face. Vantage, right now, reigns supreme. Take all the close quarters stuff, and apply it at range, and there's nobody better than vantage. And I know cause I get a lot of people complaining I'm not right there in the fight. But in that fight I downed 1 and marked the other 2, and even if I'm out of shots I'll let them see that lazer to put that "fear" in them. Or echo up, just depends. It's kinda counter intuitive to how the game is normally played, but a team that is playing that way( I get them from time to time, or they are just good enough that it works best with people that are good at pushing. Good at the gameplay vantage isn't, so you have a team that has all ranges covered.) All I'm saying is if you like the mid to long fights, there is nobody close to vantage right now. Though I could see that cross bow legend challenging her.
She has the potential to 2 tap red armor too. She doesnt need an optic and can use all optics with her passive, she has the potential to scan ring, doesnt need LOS for her tactical anymore and her tact is better than rev @zeronin4696
As the player with the most apex experience in my squad, the always ask me who they should play, and for the ones that are absolute loot gremlins I always slyly suggest conduit so they can stay caught up😂
One of the problems i see with valk is that she flies a tiny bit too slowly. She's very vulnerable and easy to shoot while flying compared to other characters like pathfinder, octane, rev, and horizon. I don't think she needs to be lore accurate, but having a bit more speed would make her a better skirmisher.
Tip... Crypto on storm point since theres vehicles drone is so op!!! Fast safe scans plus if one shot turn into drone and bat at same time.... Wait for knocked team to die. Always carey rezz beacon but the car with crypto... Is op
Revs not even that cringe. His ult is really good which is a lot different than a tactical and passive both being on the same level as ultimates, such as horizons. I’ll never see her as balanced unless they drastically change her lift and passive
@@BigPro1123 Virgin Rev: skitters around like a little rat, insults his teammates even when they're just thanking him for a 2x. Chad Horizon: Bounces around the map like a pinball, lifts her teammates up while bringing enemy teams closer together than they ever thought possible.
That Ash clip isn't Faide, it's cloudy (cloudyatnight, cloudyfromabove). He's a CRAZY Ash movement one-trick. BOOM CHECK HIS HIGHLIGHTS OUT I KNOW YOU LOVE ASH. Merchant did a video highlighting his movement a while ago.
So tired of pc people crying about aim assist. It mitigates the actual skill controller players have. Its also funny when a MK player tries controller and theyre conplete dog shi lol. Love these 2 but damn is it cringey when all they talk about in the controller clips is aim assist.
I have been a mirage main for a few years now and until season 16 when they changed his rez slightly he was pretty mid but i have definetly noticed more people playing him in the past few seasons
My poor boy Ballistic. I like playing him. I get Akimbos from just one weapon when I put it in the sling and the extra damage from the whistlers and the quick reload from the ult are super fun! I am not delusional, though, he really isn't that good. I feel like I always like the worst weapons/characters in games :(
Maggie better than fuse? I love you guys but do you even play the game? You guys are wild. The thing to mention most in this video is the game is dying and almost dead. I hope it turns around, but let's be real. There's a better chance of y'all actually agreeing about a Legends tier.
@@DaveWolffethinking aim assist is locking on to a target is insane😂 most guys that say oh but pc players hopped on controller and were good in 2 days oh you mean the pc players with 5000+ hours on the game pros that only need to practice the limited movement tech controller has and some recoil control because they have game sense down?
@@DaveWolffeaim assist was made because of the analog sticks inability to change direction until you cross the center axis while mnk as soon as the mouse moves so does your aim. I understand apex went a little overboard but they dialed it back this season so unless you can hop on a roller run up to dummy and one clip them without aiming in or moving your analog sticks don't say it "locks on"
he does, im pretty sure he has a whole account that he only plays controller on. besides just because its busted doesnt mean its fun using a controller on apex feels miserable anytime your not fighting
@@Ottoni174 You'd be surprised. Most people aren't hardcore gamers like that. I grew up on consoles so roller is all I know. I mean, I've played a little MnK but to a lot of people, myself included, gaming on console with a roller is the norm. I had no idea how deep the whole roller vs MnK thing went until I got into Apex. I'm also in my mid-thirties so maybe it's a generational thing.
I think the editor of this video they react really hates some of the legends. Like the ones where he uses faide's clips or on 15:10 with this guy that messed up *all* of fuses abilities and got just one single arc star stick with fuse's passive... this was literally one of the worst clips you could ever use for him.
i deal about 350 damage to revenant and i hate that robots ever since😂 and then come the space mom lifting my ass up while im batting 10/10 recommended game
Naaaaaaaah no justice, the best Fuse player has always been MATCH1N, he destroyed Sweet to the point Sweet was crying in the lobby saying that Match1n was cheating (he was not,) also the first one to OG the Ult scan not by putting a ballon but by throwing a grenade in the air and synchronize the ult with the nade.... Guapee best Rev too... this Legend tier vid is rigged
Im here in the comments to have the best take on aim assist .3 is the right amount of aim assist the thing that needs to be fixed is rotational aim assist it has 0 ms reaction time which is inhuman also btw controĺler should be easier than mnk
If they nerfed aim assist, they should lock fps to 100. Anything more is a huge advantage on PC. Just like how aim assist was overpowered, frame rate it too overpowered.
guys you have to do it with the stuf and abbilities that is going on right now, i really like you content but really guys dont pull it so much backwards, some of thoes clips are really old. :) you can do better :)
Using fade clips here is the most stupid thing the editor of the video they react to could have done. Give faide a dummy with no abilities and passives and he literally plays exactly the same as with any other legend. The only difference in his playstile is, when he uses wraiths phase to get out of dangerous situations or octanes stim to be slightly faster. He plays good. Yes. But there's nothing in his playstile that he can't do with any other legend. the. exact. same. way. as with his main.
new rev is for players that are bad at the game lmao. simple as that. Pop your ult and just magically get 75 extra shields then crack a Q and jump away every single time lmfaoo what a dream for absolute horrible players. Also, Ash has never been and will never pass C tier. Such a useless legend its not even funny
Crypto is A tier, and I will hear no arguments. The drone does not take you out of the game. His whole kit is based around positioning and comms. I'm a Pathy main, but when Crypto showed up, I was like "hold up...this dude is nasty"
Boom be having some of the most unpopular, crybaby, backwards ass opinions dawg I swear now don't get me wrong no one likes a yes man but when its damn what feels like every one of these kind of reaction videos, frequently throughout it just genuinely becomes annoying to hear. Lmao like really starting to seem like the type of person to complain because the sky is fucking blue instead of purple like in a dream he had the night before.
boom cooking within 5 seconds of the vid starting LOOOL (EDIT) WAIT why am I in here LMAOO, wifeline won't ever be as good as fast heal shield but that was WAY too unhealthy for the overall game at the time
As a Valk main, I only play conduit now. I miss playing Valk but conduit's utility is way too useful. I get use out of conduits speed boost alot too lol it's nice for venturing a little further and rushing back when anyone needs help
5:20 ... 🤣That reaction! Leave it to Shiv to absolutely send me! Love that guy!
Love this duo this is a life long friendship
same
I think old revenants abilities would've been better with the current apex gameplay with the health bar above enemies and no jitter from taking damage, he might've been a little OP honestly
Seer should’ve had a HisWattson clip. That Furia ALGS run they had exploiting Seer is legendary
I dropped a purple shield to one shot but they probably had a low helmet. But blue is 2 shots no matter where you shoot. Vantage is an easy S teir, it's just you have how everyone sees her, then you have how she can truly play when you play her alot.
Jumping away from your team may seem bad, but it may make their cover smaller, or draw them away from the 2 teammates pushing.
She is king, well I guess Queen, at stopping a third party push, 2 hits will buy you time, 3 very well could stop them all together. (At least it has for me) Which allowed us to finish the fight without getting third partied.
Being the third party, smart shots to get as many people down as possible before the party. (If I see a 2v1, and I know we are gonna go third party, I'll shoot at the 2 to make it easier for us)
Being chased after a loss, idk if there is any better legend right now that's better than her. To echo ahead, right after a corner or up to hight. Break line of sight pulling out her sniper, 2 shots to down or at the very least make them stop and heal. Than echo out. Honestly it's soooo much fun getting chased down by a team just to find a place to pull that on them.
And chasing a person, I mean echo and a sniper, it doesn't get much easier.
And there's things I'm still working on with her. To use echo, low to the ground, slide past their cover and light them up. Most people don't associate her sounds with that, so most don't expect me to go sliding by at speed, even though they hear me close by. But it definitely isn't easy. Choosing the side to jump, placing echo properly, knowing where their team is, are you teammates in a position to make the enemy look at the corner for the push.
I also wanna try using echo to jump straight up to get hight for a sniper shot, kinda like a horizon utility, but I'm not sure about the uses of it. Might be more of a showoff thing than actually usable.
I'ma have to recording vids on my Xbox, I just don't know how to get them off of it. I'm not a pro or anything like that, but I do have my times. But I haven't really seen anybody using Vantage to her full potential. Yeah people play her, but they play her how they think she should be played, but she has a more unique play style. You can't really think how you think playing most other legends.
She doesn't benefit in a close quarter fight, that is true. All her stuff is mid to long range. So I can see why most people that like that close quarters, jumping around, chaos, would be able to use her. Because she does lack there.
But for people that like the mid to long range, the people who think about fights at a distance and not in your face. Vantage, right now, reigns supreme.
Take all the close quarters stuff, and apply it at range, and there's nobody better than vantage. And I know cause I get a lot of people complaining I'm not right there in the fight. But in that fight I downed 1 and marked the other 2, and even if I'm out of shots I'll let them see that lazer to put that "fear" in them. Or echo up, just depends.
It's kinda counter intuitive to how the game is normally played, but a team that is playing that way( I get them from time to time, or they are just good enough that it works best with people that are good at pushing. Good at the gameplay vantage isn't, so you have a team that has all ranges covered.)
All I'm saying is if you like the mid to long fights, there is nobody close to vantage right now. Though I could see that cross bow legend challenging her.
Ballistic ult is ridiculous. I for sure am always happy to have one on my team
Y’all are sleeping on vantage. She has a built in digi when ADS, has some movement, and carries a 3rd gun. She is so good this season.
Her ult is op now. Her being able to 2 tap blue armor is crazy
She has the potential to 2 tap red armor too. She doesnt need an optic and can use all optics with her passive, she has the potential to scan ring, doesnt need LOS for her tactical anymore and her tact is better than rev @zeronin4696
As the player with the most apex experience in my squad, the always ask me who they should play, and for the ones that are absolute loot gremlins I always slyly suggest conduit so they can stay caught up😂
Vantage is A tier this season
This season, Wattson is S tier.
One of the problems i see with valk is that she flies a tiny bit too slowly. She's very vulnerable and easy to shoot while flying compared to other characters like pathfinder, octane, rev, and horizon. I don't think she needs to be lore accurate, but having a bit more speed would make her a better skirmisher.
Rampart is S tier dude and im not even being biased
Tip... Crypto on storm point since theres vehicles drone is so op!!! Fast safe scans plus if one shot turn into drone and bat at same time.... Wait for knocked team to die. Always carey rezz beacon but the car with crypto... Is op
seeing my mains get A tier or higher brings warmth to my heart
In a world where Horizon exists, i dont think its possible to be cringe playing Rev
Revs not even that cringe. His ult is really good which is a lot different than a tactical and passive both being on the same level as ultimates, such as horizons. I’ll never see her as balanced unless they drastically change her lift and passive
@@BigPro1123 Virgin Rev: skitters around like a little rat, insults his teammates even when they're just thanking him for a 2x. Chad Horizon: Bounces around the map like a pinball, lifts her teammates up while bringing enemy teams closer together than they ever thought possible.
love your vids kandy and boom also very creative and defintley amazing love yalls content
That Ash clip isn't Faide, it's cloudy (cloudyatnight, cloudyfromabove). He's a CRAZY Ash movement one-trick. BOOM CHECK HIS HIGHLIGHTS OUT I KNOW YOU LOVE ASH. Merchant did a video highlighting his movement a while ago.
The Ash clip was from someone called cloudyatnight who i believe is the number 1 pc ash main who is a movement ash main as shown.
I could tell it was him by the movement lmao
@@Alexilehio Yeah I could too then I looked at the name which confirmed it even more.
The ashes name is cloudy he’s a amazing ash player
So tired of pc people crying about aim assist. It mitigates the actual skill controller players have. Its also funny when a MK player tries controller and theyre conplete dog shi lol. Love these 2 but damn is it cringey when all they talk about in the controller clips is aim assist.
Womp womp lil bro, it's almost like controller gives you free aimlock
@@TWheezy_TMKandy has a video of him using controller. He sucked compared to pc
PC players just need to get good. Sorry, your monster of a PC only gives you 120-200 fps, and you can't aim
@@moops-x2ulmao lil bro thinks we're taking about console players
Boom literally said he was already as good on roller as he is on mnk and he has like 10k hours mnk fps experience...
12:10 "meatballs baby"
I think with some adjustments, Ballistic has the capability of being a decent legend.
Valk being replaced by an item tho... sucks but yeah lol.
Love you guys ❤
More iconic duo than Shiv and Bangalore would be Dezignful and the Wingman
Dezign-wraith
as a recovering ex-valk main... the pain is real.
🤣🤣
That ash was cloudyatnight, absolutely cracked ash movement player
I have been a mirage main for a few years now and until season 16 when they changed his rez slightly he was pretty mid but i have definetly noticed more people playing him in the past few seasons
Hello boom and kandy
What
😂😂@@dylziii
You’re thinking of Valk wrong. Think of jet pack like a double jump and ult is when you have no evac or need to get over a big mountain
My poor boy Ballistic. I like playing him. I get Akimbos from just one weapon when I put it in the sling and the extra damage from the whistlers and the quick reload from the ult are super fun!
I am not delusional, though, he really isn't that good. I feel like I always like the worst weapons/characters in games :(
Hes very fun in pubs and low elo tho
Thats Cloudy on Ash.
mirage being above gibby in the list is an absurd, also kine on gibby over mande or reps for the clips is also crazy
Maggie double mozams never have to reload
People just jealous of Ballistic because he can carry three guns AND he has Ball in his name.
Crypto is very fun and helpful when you know how to use it, especially in ranked, but if you wanna rush and kill, use pathfinder and octane
OK but what if I mained revenant since release?
You guys complaining about aim assist 24/7 is like a console player screaming about pc players doing a tap strafe. It’s so annoying.
womp womp, then just don't watch the video lil bro. did you ever think about that??? :0
No. It’s not the same. One is literally automatic the other is skill-based.
i wish valk got a buff or evac towers got a nerf, a valk main can dream 😔
15:21 He just casually walks through the other fuses ult without getting any tick of damage at all... Okay. Alright.
Boom is slowly becoming XQC
Does anyone notice how many times Kandy and Boom take seething breathes? 😬
I’m 9 seconds in, I already know Mirage takes the cake.
the ash clip is treeree by the way :3
Putting lifeline at C tier is blasphemy Kandy…
Top settle who’s better caustic or path, only caustic has been part of a algs meta
Bloodhound is at least A tier
That much better than Seer
Bro I love how faide had wraith crypto and mirage I mean he is the goat but still
Ain’t no way y’all said Ash is A tier that’s cope and y’all are smoking that up
the wraith and crypto was faide lol
Why was it mostly faide clips.
sleeping way too hard on valk, the passive movement potential is so strong (at least on console) and evac towers aren’t nerfs they’re free UAV’s
cau7ion is the best pathfinder
Maggie better than fuse? I love you guys but do you even play the game? You guys are wild. The thing to mention most in this video is the game is dying and almost dead. I hope it turns around, but let's be real. There's a better chance of y'all actually agreeing about a Legends tier.
Still complaining about Aim Assist, when y'all can still tap strafe is insane 😂
Thinking turning around quickly is comparable to having your pc lock on to a target is insane.
@@DaveWolffethinking aim assist is locking on to a target is insane😂 most guys that say oh but pc players hopped on controller and were good in 2 days oh you mean the pc players with 5000+ hours on the game pros that only need to practice the limited movement tech controller has and some recoil control because they have game sense down?
@@DaveWolffeaim assist was made because of the analog sticks inability to change direction until you cross the center axis while mnk as soon as the mouse moves so does your aim. I understand apex went a little overboard but they dialed it back this season so unless you can hop on a roller run up to dummy and one clip them without aiming in or moving your analog sticks don't say it "locks on"
you should have used a Crypto clip from xJayami. the crypto was good but they didn't use emp and only fought 1v1..
Mirage b hurts my heart.
If aim assist is so bad then why does boom not use it despite having a controller and being decent on it
he does, im pretty sure he has a whole account that he only plays controller on. besides just because its busted doesnt mean its fun using a controller on apex feels miserable anytime your not fighting
because people like to play the game, roller is terrible to play fps and 99% of the population wouldn't play it if it wasn't for aim assist
@@Ottoni174 You'd be surprised. Most people aren't hardcore gamers like that. I grew up on consoles so roller is all I know. I mean, I've played a little MnK but to a lot of people, myself included, gaming on console with a roller is the norm. I had no idea how deep the whole roller vs MnK thing went until I got into Apex. I'm also in my mid-thirties so maybe it's a generational thing.
Coz its boring and he doesnt need it to earn money like the pros do
Eric Evans don't watch a bid you don't like
should of been an imdsu mirage clip
The wrait was faide lol
I think the editor of this video they react really hates some of the legends.
Like the ones where he uses faide's clips or on 15:10 with this guy that messed up *all* of fuses abilities and got just one single arc star stick with fuse's passive... this was literally one of the worst clips you could ever use for him.
very bad rating legends
i deal about 350 damage to revenant and i hate that robots ever since😂
and then come the space mom lifting my ass up while im batting
10/10 recommended game
It's my main way before the upgrade, so that is bs...
@@debnadaebna9981 yeah he knock 2 of my teammates shield back up and its when rev cond combo is a thing so yeah
had a crypto get us from 6th to 3rd in a ranked match using cryptos invisibility in his drone
the wraith clip was Faide also i love shiv, hes great and funny
i thought guapee was the best for rev and btw im a rev main
0:43 what was that? A bit sus
The ash was treeree
Fuse definitely trash tier. Only people who can't shoot a gun disagree.
Naaaaaaaah no justice, the best Fuse player has always been MATCH1N, he destroyed Sweet to the point Sweet was crying in the lobby saying that Match1n was cheating (he was not,) also the first one to OG the Ult scan not by putting a ballon but by throwing a grenade in the air and synchronize the ult with the nade.... Guapee best Rev too... this Legend tier vid is rigged
For rev the should have went with guapee not zylbrad sorry to him but guap is just better
“ um aimassist 🤓☝️” shush you are not him.
And be quite about my fav youtuber
wraith is def D tier
Aim assist is horrible now i don't even wanna play the game anymore
I recommend cod then 😊
Just go back to console man. we still have 0.6 aa here
Loba one ate
Im here in the comments to have the best take on aim assist .3 is the right amount of aim assist the thing that needs to be fixed is rotational aim assist it has 0 ms reaction time which is inhuman also btw controĺler should be easier than mnk
4:58 that’s faide
Stop complaining about aim assist it’s not broken 😂
No offense but I think I’m a better caustic
Can y’all please stop crying about aim assist? It’s so annoying.
It's really good bro they're not crying just pointing out facts
Especially in the first clip
Bro cry about it
I’m with Eric on this
Just dont watch the videos 😮
Btw I'm a huge fan
Lots of Faide viewers, so far 3 times that annoying guy.... here is a free idea for a vid; character tier with their most iconic player.
Hello
If they nerfed aim assist, they should lock fps to 100. Anything more is a huge advantage on PC. Just like how aim assist was overpowered, frame rate it too overpowered.
I'm a returning player whats OP about framerate ?
guys you have to do it with the stuf and abbilities that is going on right now, i really like you content but really guys dont pull it so much backwards, some of thoes clips are really old. :) you can do better :)
Are you the Korean
Using fade clips here is the most stupid thing the editor of the video they react to could have done. Give faide a dummy with no abilities and passives and he literally plays exactly the same as with any other legend.
The only difference in his playstile is, when he uses wraiths phase to get out of dangerous situations or octanes stim to be slightly faster.
He plays good. Yes. But there's nothing in his playstile that he can't do with any other legend. the. exact. same. way. as with his main.
I’m here
Balistic is F not valk lmao
new rev is for players that are bad at the game lmao. simple as that. Pop your ult and just magically get 75 extra shields then crack a Q and jump away every single time lmfaoo what a dream for absolute horrible players. Also, Ash has never been and will never pass C tier. Such a useless legend its not even funny
Crypto is A tier, and I will hear no arguments. The drone does not take you out of the game. His whole kit is based around positioning and comms. I'm a Pathy main, but when Crypto showed up, I was like "hold up...this dude is nasty"
Omg controllers broken until it’s my friend. Holy these pc losers😂
"If you play revenant, you're cringe." Spit facts brother
dang im early
iitztimmy better pathfinder
Boom be having some of the most unpopular, crybaby, backwards ass opinions dawg I swear now don't get me wrong no one likes a yes man but when its damn what feels like every one of these kind of reaction videos, frequently throughout it just genuinely becomes annoying to hear. Lmao like really starting to seem like the type of person to complain because the sky is fucking blue instead of purple like in a dream he had the night before.