Carmella told ray o fight her own battles yet was fighting Bon Bons battle for him. I hate that ray mond forgets how things happen bc she didn’t even involve cg, ramee literally called her after he chose to set Bon Bon up and taco chose to hand her a gun and drive her to the meeting point.
While I agree, she isn’t a hypocrite by helping Bon Bon. She doesn’t think Ray Mond should fight on her own, just don’t involve CG. She said multiple times to get her other friends like Gigi and April to help instead. And I can kind of understand why. Like imagine Gigi screws over Carmella and she asks CG to help shoot her down, that’s Ray’s friend and it makes things very awkward for the gang. And in this case, Carmella’s friend being shot up by the boys makes things awkward for her and the gang. I don’t think Ray Mond did anything wrong necessarily but Carmella’s logic makes sense here. Not that Carmella isn’t a hypocrite, she still involves CG in things they don’t need to be involved in, but that’s not what we are discussing rn
@@Crying2Death yeah but gigi is in another gang "the manor" so that wont work incase BBMC eventually do get involved, (which dundee said it could be a personal problem and not the clubs and bon bon said he didnt want them involved because he know that they did buisness with CG, but idk the name of the guy later on in his stream told bon bon he needed to end the beef between the clowns and him because if they do anything to him again (this was after the ember stabbing @ the hospital), BBMC were going to have to get involved. ). And april doesnt do any war/conflic rp because of OOC reasons , she said shes avoiding it unless its like small pretty conflict with people she knows ooc because of the war hoppers/ general hoppers she was getting when CG were at wars in 3.0 that made her leve the game. And then that leaves kitty and max which are civs so they dont do crime. And then theres the clowns, which like ray said she sees them as "funny revenge" and like sbs kinda conflict like the one that clowns and CG allways have. And when its serious she calls the CG boys who have literally been there since day 1 of her first 3.0 day.
•I feel like Carmella was talking to herself more than she was talking to Ray ... it does make sense from Carmella's POV, but only because she's working with no actual information 😅 + Ray and Carmella as enemies is a much more interesting plot development 😆
Ironic cause all Ray has done in 4.0 is go on her own and the first time the boys back her up for something she gets called out for it. Got to make the character feel less inclined to go back to them again.
•you might be right, but I don't think it'll make her less inclined to call on CG ... Carmella was never a part of Ray Mond's CG experience, so her opinion likely wouldn't sway her. -- it just puts some distance between Carmella and Ray
What in the logic mind fk manipulation is this? Lol Ray never asked the boys to get involved except for advice on training her to handle BonBon. Carmella has been involving CG since her relationship with Ramee. She called CG for help in her conflicts, maybe because she thought of herself as the CG princess, a notion Ramee planted. Even when Carmella and Ray first clashed, Carmella tried to involve CG without knowing that Ray had already called them boys not to vent but reminded Ramee and Mr. K not to get involved in her and Carmella's drama. 🤣🤣
Ray told Mr K and Ramee that when it comes to her and Carmella not to get involved they both agreed that CG will stay out of it. But the Clowns are on sight Ray said she would never betray the boys even for Chatterbox Carmella got upset that CG wouldn’t help her with Ray Carmella knew CG hates the Clowns that’s why she told them about it talk about fighting her own battles
I think in this certain situations Carmella was upset at the fact that she wasn’t allow to go cg when she had something with Ray why should she. Kinda applying and manipulating a double standard onto Ray even that and this are different
soo explain to me when ray want to carmella to talk 1 on 1 but she got the clowns to throw her on the lava , when she knows she cg but she sided with clowns against carmella where shes cg, and the reason didnt include her at all
Didn't CG back up Carmella and kill Chatty after the dumping lava thing. Chatty asked Ray for help about it but since its CG she told Chatty she can't which almost break their friendship. CG boys just said they will not pick sides if its Carmella vs Ray Mond which is fair since it is a girls thing.
Ntm on carmella the mfkn icon now. The girl is defensive over bon bon bc she knows how it feels to be ganged up on her entire life as a bad confident bitch by men, or other folx all over the city like the clowns by herself. And in Carmella’s pov, ray lied to cg members that bon bon stabbed ray and put her in the icu. For Carmella, she feels like that is a low snide blow. From anything I’ve ever seen though, Carmella and even bon bon are kind souls when you get to know them fr and the underdogs who often get walked over on. Carmella for being a confident feminine woman in a city full of ppl who try to put women like her in “her place” and bon bon, I’m not entirely sure, but from what I see, was the clown to go to see dog piling from his friends as the butt of the joke., but never ride or died for when he needed it. The way April didn’t take offense to being in the burn book originally bc she understood being shitted on by men for bidding at $500 on twatter was sucky. Carmella and bon bon have never actually ever hurt ray mond either. They threatened her only when she co-conspired with ppl who hurt them.
@@polomcbroombabes y’all find lingo and use it everywhere for anything WRONGLY. It’s a fucking character like fucking tv and I can have my own thoughts about it. Get a grip and may be get a dictionary bc you are not bright
@@polomcbroom parasocial? 💀💀💀 babes y’all find lingo and use it for anything and everything WRONGLY. These are characters like fucking TV and I can have my opinion. Get a grip and a fucking dictionary bc you are not the smartest… bc you thought you ate…. and thank you I touched grass all weekend actually celebrating life with my family MUAHH 💋
@@polomcbroom Parasocial is so funny 💀💀💀 Y'all get your hands on words and just use them for anything. All I did was provide context and characterization bc of how ppl in the comments are talking about Carmella. And ty very much I did touch grass all weekend. And will continue to 💋 seeing the sun and ppl you love makes you happier and better at comprehending relationships. you'll continue to see me have my paragraph opinions about my favorite stream characters bc I love how all parties ate the drama downnnn and writing is so funnn. ty to Rae and Carmen for feeding us spicy RP and imma talk about it MUAH 💋 toodles 👋🏻
Carmella is cg so they’re always gonna be involved in her battles. I don’t understand how Carmella saying she can get Bon Bon on her own is a bad thing she just wants ray to learn to fight her own battles.
@Kai_801 Carmella doesn’t really need to beg thought mr k just always has her back but I like that sometimes mr k knows Carmella can always handle her own :)
It was Ramee and Taco who offered help to Ray, why does Carmella always have to insert herself and always in a negative way? Way isn't she going to ask Ramee for an explanation as to why he helped Ray? She's the one who acts like a pick me girl.
Carmella said fight your own battles to Ray is crazy when she used other people to gun down her enemies and used CG to shoot chatterbox and the clowns that’s hypocritical
Carmella was in the icu and mr k asked who done this to you she said chatterbox. If ray actually met carmella 1 on 1 then it would have been a different situation carmella is cg and that’s her family and if they wanna help they can.
@@Dora-mf1gmDon’t get me wrong Carmen is a good streamer I just don’t think her character has earned the right to be in CG when she never really helps them out the way Ray did in 3.0 and in 4.0 Carmella is just hanging around putting her 2 cents in meetings that she shouldn’t be talking in when she doesn’t even help them in anything just stands around. Or complains about what happened to her that day where Ray doesn’t stand around she helps then make money and asks then for advice on hacking or a job the will make her and them money
@@Jordan-777 and it’s so obvious that you haven’t seen enough from carmella’s pov, yet you’re so quick to form opinions on who’s “earned the right to be in CG.” Not when carmella has known the boys longer than ray has even existed in los santos, plus ramee had said himself that if there’s anyone deserving of a cg chain, it’s carmella. The whole “who’s more cg” discourse is just stupid and unnecessary but yall keep bringing it up.
@@Ardnassela7 Even Mr K said it himself April is more CG then Carmella which means Ray who Joined around the same time is more of a member then Carmella she officially joined CG in 2023 Ray was officially in CG in March / 26 / 2021. Knowing the boys is a completely different thing Mr K said Carmella knows them longer but Ray and April have been members in CG longer Mr K didn’t give her that spot until 2023 even if Ramee said she deserved it doesn’t mean she has done anything to earn it
@@Jordan-777 “mr k said it himself that april is more cg than carmella” not you spewing false info when all vods are still up with proof. it’s clear as glass that you’ve never watched other povs at all besides your faves’😂 carmella didn’t join cg in the past because she DIDN’T WANT TO. And why would ramee even say she deserves it if she hasn’t done anything to earn it??? You’re not very bright are you?
Carmella legit went against hydra by herself a whole gang shot flippy down, took a gun from the Cg house to shoot a guy that robbed her and Paris without asking the guys for help she’s just trying to get ray to understand you can have these connections but it’s better when u do the job done yourself without running to someone. I would love to see ray be more independent without relying on someone else for help
I get what you're saying but Valkyrae is a casual gtarp'er. She doesn't have the mechanics or game sense that Carmen does as she's been playing since 1.0/2.0. Ray Mond cannot ask Gigi and the other ppl in her house for "help" because Gigi has a 'deal' with Bonbon and the others aren't criminals so they don't have a gun. But also, Ray didn't ask for help, she asked for someone to train her in fighting (since she doesn't have the mechanics down) which taco just said f' that and handed her a gun and ramee immediately called to set up bon bon. I think the boys were just bored and wanted to help since it will give them something to do. I agree for Ray Mond to become more independent though but I think that she will get better overtime which will give her more confidence to do things herself. Sorry for the paragraph lol
i think what carmella does not know in character is that ray was only asking ramee if he knew someone who was good at fighting bc swan was not awake at that time. but ramee and taco already were planning ahead to get bonbon set up.
@@full0fw0nder exactlyyyyy! carmen has experience and has played carmella as alone without an official group to back for most of her RP in NP, so she knows how to defend herself alone becauses shes had to throughout time and gotten good at it. The boys met Ray Mond on her first day of NP and all throughout 3.0 she basically only hanged out exclusively with CG/ close people to CG, until the start of 4.0 when she started to be more of a social butter fly. They've allways had her back no quesstions asked and when 4.0 started multiple people like vinny, taco, ramee have said shes still family and "part of the squad" even if they dont get to hang out as much as they used to, so of course shes going to ask them, which btw she didnt, she asked for fighting lessons, the boys were bored and it lead to this. I think instead of sayng all of this carmella should try to explain to her how she(carmella) handles conflict that way ray mond can see a different option, instead of just saying things that will make the other person defensive and just gets worse
Ray never had CG help her Ramee was the one who wanted to set up BonBon Carmella had help she ran to Mr K about chatterbox Ray never asked CG to help her only recently she asked for fighting lessons not for them to get involved that’s all on Ramee
She's also had CG ambush two groups of people that disrespected her. Her whole, you should go it alone angle was self serving BS. There is nothing wrong with asking for help from your allies, Carmella has done the same many times.
Most of the comments made on this situation have only watched one character’s rp story……*cough*…..ray mond’s…..- and it really shows. I suggest getting out of the small box of rp streamers yall watch before having an opinion. Yall type too fast instead of learning different pov’s that led up to that convo. Both side can have valid reasons
@@rosa_stars349 nah, it’s the ray mond stans im talking about. I literally see yall everywhere writing essays and talking shit just because someone made your fave pixel cry😭
@@Ardnassela7 Why do people like you always say stupid stuff like this. Say Ray mond stans cry and write paragraphs when their fav pixel character gets hurt yet you probably do the same thing. Hell, even Carmella stans do it. Enough of this dumb narrative that only certain RP character stans whine when they all do them for every character.
@@xiogfuz gurl on god this is my first time commenting on an RP video lmao. Im just reacting on the fact that i see ray stans everyyyyywhere starting shit like this, sooo much more than other rp stans😂 (never said other stans don’t do it)
Carmella has stood at Chang Gang side, when called she runs and rescues all of them, Carmella made herself jump off a bridge to save Chang Gang!!!! Carmella has always called when K isnt there, her opinions are just and straight to the point; hence everyone said Carmella Gang even with all Gang members around they learn to respect her, even NBC was happy to follow orders.
I’m team Carmella, I see both sides but I don’t think it’s fair to get a whole gang against one person. Bon bon only had Carmella in his corner, but now she can’t help because cg is involved. A 1v6 fight is lame🫤
Yeah, I see Carmella's POV too but if we were to look at Ray Mond's POV, this is the first time she asked CG for help in 4.0 and it wasn't really meant to be a CG vs BonBon thing because she only called Taco to ask how to learn to fight but Taco VOLUNTARILY gave her a gun and Ramee on the other hand, made a plan to set Bon Bon up. The reason she didn't get CG involved in her fight with Carmella before is because she's close/part of CG which is something she doesn't want to do since it might piss them off. A huge part of the reason why CG's opinion matters to Ray Mond is because CG is the first real family she ever had since birth. Yes, she might have her twin brother but they're not that close. Ray Mond didn't realize how close Carmella and BonBon were. She just thought they were Acquaintance in Passing due to the last she recalled, Carmella stabbed BonBon. Carmella's special connection to CG is also part of the reason why Ray Mond thinks that it's ok if she's the mediator in the talk with BonBon. She believed that Carmella would be by her side and wouldn't betray her despite Chatterbox's protest being her +1 in the meeting. I think Ramee and Taco also didn't know that Carmella and Bon Bon were friends based on their reactions when Ray Mond told them she and Carmella were not friends anymore because of the setup thing. I think if they had known, they wouldn't do it. Sorry for the long paragraphs, I just wanna share my opinion ❤😊
But ray never ask CG for help those this the first time she ask and it was just Ramee and taco and she was asking for advice fighting taco give her the gun and ramee already has plans to set bonbon maybe watch the stream for the content before being team ray mond or team Carmella
Don’t forget it was Ramee’s idea to setup BonBon in the first place and Ray never asked CG to get involved only to have CG’S back when Chatterbox wanted to kidnap Mr K
@@Tessachannel28 I watch both carmella and ray and you can enjoy the stream without agreeing with the character. Neither character is right or wrong but I like that Carmella stood up for bonbon. Also, it doesn’t matter if ray asked for help, the boys helped because they were under the impression that bonbon put her in the icu.
Carmella told ray o fight her own battles yet was fighting Bon Bons battle for him. I hate that ray mond forgets how things happen bc she didn’t even involve cg, ramee literally called her after he chose to set Bon Bon up and taco chose to hand her a gun and drive her to the meeting point.
While I agree, she isn’t a hypocrite by helping Bon Bon. She doesn’t think Ray Mond should fight on her own, just don’t involve CG. She said multiple times to get her other friends like Gigi and April to help instead.
And I can kind of understand why. Like imagine Gigi screws over Carmella and she asks CG to help shoot her down, that’s Ray’s friend and it makes things very awkward for the gang.
And in this case, Carmella’s friend being shot up by the boys makes things awkward for her and the gang.
I don’t think Ray Mond did anything wrong necessarily but Carmella’s logic makes sense here. Not that Carmella isn’t a hypocrite, she still involves CG in things they don’t need to be involved in, but that’s not what we are discussing rn
@@Crying2Death yeah but gigi is in another gang "the manor" so that wont work incase BBMC eventually do get involved, (which dundee said it could be a personal problem and not the clubs and bon bon said he didnt want them involved because he know that they did buisness with CG, but idk the name of the guy later on in his stream told bon bon he needed to end the beef between the clowns and him because if they do anything to him again (this was after the ember stabbing @ the hospital), BBMC were going to have to get involved. ). And april doesnt do any war/conflic rp because of OOC reasons , she said shes avoiding it unless its like small pretty conflict with people she knows ooc because of the war hoppers/ general hoppers she was getting when CG were at wars in 3.0 that made her leve the game. And then that leaves kitty and max which are civs so they dont do crime.
And then theres the clowns, which like ray said she sees them as "funny revenge" and like sbs kinda conflict like the one that clowns and CG allways have. And when its serious she calls the CG boys who have literally been there since day 1 of her first 3.0 day.
•I feel like Carmella was talking to herself more than she was talking to Ray ... it does make sense from Carmella's POV, but only because she's working with no actual information 😅
+ Ray and Carmella as enemies is a much more interesting plot development 😆
Ironic cause all Ray has done in 4.0 is go on her own and the first time the boys back her up for something she gets called out for it. Got to make the character feel less inclined to go back to them again.
lol literaly she finally was able to get a roof running job and spend the beginning stream before and after this with taco
@@aren3461separate the streamer from the character
•you might be right, but I don't think it'll make her less inclined to call on CG ... Carmella was never a part of Ray Mond's CG experience, so her opinion likely wouldn't sway her.
-- it just puts some distance between Carmella and Ray
What in the logic mind fk manipulation is this? Lol Ray never asked the boys to get involved except for advice on training her to handle BonBon. Carmella has been involving CG since her relationship with Ramee. She called CG for help in her conflicts, maybe because she thought of herself as the CG princess, a notion Ramee planted. Even when Carmella and Ray first clashed, Carmella tried to involve CG without knowing that Ray had already called them boys not to vent but reminded Ramee and Mr. K not to get involved in her and Carmella's drama. 🤣🤣
Thank you no hate to Carmella but she the pick me girl tbh
All carmella and carmella 2 knows is 'pick me' 'support girls over guys' but if you don't we wont support you.
Weirdo stuff.
Ray told Mr K and Ramee that when it comes to her and Carmella not to get involved they both agreed that CG will stay out of it. But the Clowns are on sight Ray said she would never betray the boys even for Chatterbox
Carmella got upset that CG wouldn’t help her with Ray Carmella knew CG hates the Clowns that’s why she told them about it talk about fighting her own battles
I think in this certain situations Carmella was upset at the fact that she wasn’t allow to go cg when she had something with Ray why should she. Kinda applying and manipulating a double standard onto Ray even that and this are different
soo explain to me when ray want to carmella to talk 1 on 1 but she got the clowns to throw her on the lava , when she knows she cg but she sided with clowns against carmella where shes cg, and the reason didnt include her at all
Didn't CG back up Carmella and kill Chatty after the dumping lava thing. Chatty asked Ray for help about it but since its CG she told Chatty she can't which almost break their friendship. CG boys just said they will not pick sides if its Carmella vs Ray Mond which is fair since it is a girls thing.
I just don't know is if Ray Mond wanted Carmella to pick her over Bonbon which is kinda hypocrite if true since she has Chatty
Ntm on carmella the mfkn icon now. The girl is defensive over bon bon bc she knows how it feels to be ganged up on her entire life as a bad confident bitch by men, or other folx all over the city like the clowns by herself. And in Carmella’s pov, ray lied to cg members that bon bon stabbed ray and put her in the icu. For Carmella, she feels like that is a low snide blow.
From anything I’ve ever seen though, Carmella and even bon bon are kind souls when you get to know them fr and the underdogs who often get walked over on. Carmella for being a confident feminine woman in a city full of ppl who try to put women like her in “her place” and bon bon, I’m not entirely sure, but from what I see, was the clown to go to see dog piling from his friends as the butt of the joke., but never ride or died for when he needed it. The way April didn’t take offense to being in the burn book originally bc she understood being shitted on by men for bidding at $500 on twatter was sucky. Carmella and bon bon have never actually ever hurt ray mond either. They threatened her only when she co-conspired with ppl who hurt them.
Holy parasocial paragraph andy 😂 this is literally your sign to go outside and touch some grass
@@polomcbroombabes y’all find lingo and use it everywhere for anything WRONGLY. It’s a fucking character like fucking tv and I can have my own thoughts about it. Get a grip and may be get a dictionary bc you are not bright
@@polomcbroom parasocial? 💀💀💀 babes y’all find lingo and use it for anything and everything WRONGLY. These are characters like fucking TV and I can have my opinion. Get a grip and a fucking dictionary bc you are not the smartest… bc you thought you ate…. and thank you I touched grass all weekend actually celebrating life with my family MUAHH 💋
@@polomcbroom Parasocial is so funny 💀💀💀 Y'all get your hands on words and just use them for anything. All I did was provide context and characterization bc of how ppl in the comments are talking about Carmella.
And ty very much I did touch grass all weekend. And will continue to 💋 seeing the sun and ppl you love makes you happier and better at comprehending relationships. you'll continue to see me have my paragraph opinions about my favorite stream characters bc I love how all parties ate the drama downnnn and writing is so funnn. ty to Rae and Carmen for feeding us spicy RP and imma talk about it MUAH 💋 toodles 👋🏻
But Carmella got CG or paris in her battle those how can she say Ray mond need fight her own battle ?
Carmella is cg so they’re always gonna be involved in her battles. I don’t understand how Carmella saying she can get Bon Bon on her own is a bad thing she just wants ray to learn to fight her own battles.
@Kai_801 Carmella doesn’t really need to beg thought mr k just always has her back but I like that sometimes mr k knows Carmella can always handle her own :)
@@zuinek9527 then carmella need take her own advice as while no hate to carmella but she can’t really tell ray mond that
I love ray but she can never handle stuff on her own it’s always cg if not cg then the clowns
It was Ramee and Taco who offered help to Ray, why does Carmella always have to insert herself and always in a negative way? Way isn't she going to ask Ramee for an explanation as to why he helped Ray? She's the one who acts like a pick me girl.
Carmella said fight your own battles to Ray is crazy when she used other people to gun down her enemies and used CG to shoot chatterbox and the clowns that’s hypocritical
Carmella was in the icu and mr k asked who done this to you she said chatterbox. If ray actually met carmella 1 on 1 then it would have been a different situation carmella is cg and that’s her family and if they wanna help they can.
@@Dora-mf1gmDon’t get me wrong Carmen is a good streamer I just don’t think her character has earned the right to be in CG when she never really helps them out the way Ray did in 3.0 and in 4.0 Carmella is just hanging around putting her 2 cents in meetings that she shouldn’t be talking in when she doesn’t even help them in anything just stands around. Or complains about what happened to her that day where Ray doesn’t stand around she helps then make money and asks then for advice on hacking or a job the will make her and them money
@@Jordan-777 and it’s so obvious that you haven’t seen enough from carmella’s pov, yet you’re so quick to form opinions on who’s “earned the right to be in CG.” Not when carmella has known the boys longer than ray has even existed in los santos, plus ramee had said himself that if there’s anyone deserving of a cg chain, it’s carmella. The whole “who’s more cg” discourse is just stupid and unnecessary but yall keep bringing it up.
@@Ardnassela7
Even Mr K said it himself April is more CG then Carmella which means Ray who Joined around the same time is more of a member then Carmella she officially joined CG in 2023 Ray was officially in CG in March / 26 / 2021.
Knowing the boys is a completely different thing Mr K said Carmella knows them longer but Ray and April have been members in CG longer Mr K didn’t give her that spot until 2023 even if Ramee said she deserved it doesn’t mean she has done anything to earn it
@@Jordan-777 “mr k said it himself that april is more cg than carmella” not you spewing false info when all vods are still up with proof. it’s clear as glass that you’ve never watched other povs at all besides your faves’😂 carmella didn’t join cg in the past because she DIDN’T WANT TO. And why would ramee even say she deserves it if she hasn’t done anything to earn it??? You’re not very bright are you?
Lmao I love Rae’s rp at the end
Carmella legit went against hydra by herself a whole gang shot flippy down, took a gun from the Cg house to shoot a guy that robbed her and Paris without asking the guys for help she’s just trying to get ray to understand you can have these connections but it’s better when u do the job done yourself without running to someone. I would love to see ray be more independent without relying on someone else for help
I get what you're saying but Valkyrae is a casual gtarp'er. She doesn't have the mechanics or game sense that Carmen does as she's been playing since 1.0/2.0. Ray Mond cannot ask Gigi and the other ppl in her house for "help" because Gigi has a 'deal' with Bonbon and the others aren't criminals so they don't have a gun. But also, Ray didn't ask for help, she asked for someone to train her in fighting (since she doesn't have the mechanics down) which taco just said f' that and handed her a gun and ramee immediately called to set up bon bon. I think the boys were just bored and wanted to help since it will give them something to do. I agree for Ray Mond to become more independent though but I think that she will get better overtime which will give her more confidence to do things herself. Sorry for the paragraph lol
i think what carmella does not know in character is that ray was only asking ramee if he knew someone who was good at fighting bc swan was not awake at that time. but ramee and taco already were planning ahead to get bonbon set up.
@@full0fw0nder exactlyyyyy! carmen has experience and has played carmella as alone without an official group to back for most of her RP in NP, so she knows how to defend herself alone becauses shes had to throughout time and gotten good at it. The boys met Ray Mond on her first day of NP and all throughout 3.0 she basically only hanged out exclusively with CG/ close people to CG, until the start of 4.0 when she started to be more of a social butter fly. They've allways had her back no quesstions asked and when 4.0 started multiple people like vinny, taco, ramee have said shes still family and "part of the squad" even if they dont get to hang out as much as they used to, so of course shes going to ask them, which btw she didnt, she asked for fighting lessons, the boys were bored and it lead to this.
I think instead of sayng all of this carmella should try to explain to her how she(carmella) handles conflict that way ray mond can see a different option, instead of just saying things that will make the other person defensive and just gets worse
Ray never had CG help her Ramee was the one who wanted to set up BonBon Carmella had help she ran to Mr K about chatterbox Ray never asked CG to help her only recently she asked for fighting lessons not for them to get involved that’s all on Ramee
She's also had CG ambush two groups of people that disrespected her. Her whole, you should go it alone angle was self serving BS. There is nothing wrong with asking for help from your allies, Carmella has done the same many times.
Coming from a fan of both parties, I have noooo idea where Carmen is going with this Carmella vs Ray Mond arc 🤔 shall wait and see
Most of the comments made on this situation have only watched one character’s rp story……*cough*…..ray mond’s…..- and it really shows. I suggest getting out of the small box of rp streamers yall watch before having an opinion. Yall type too fast instead of learning different pov’s that led up to that convo. Both side can have valid reasons
I think they both made good points honestly and in the future will probably resolve their problems and be close friends
need girndorf to come in clutch with the povs and the flashbacks
Damn ray stans are craaaazy
its cg lover stans not rae stans
@@rosa_stars349no definitely ray stans are crazy. Real Cg fans have had more exposure to the rp world vs ray’s
@@rosa_stars349 nah, it’s the ray mond stans im talking about. I literally see yall everywhere writing essays and talking shit just because someone made your fave pixel cry😭
@@Ardnassela7 Why do people like you always say stupid stuff like this. Say Ray mond stans cry and write paragraphs when their fav pixel character gets hurt yet you probably do the same thing. Hell, even Carmella stans do it. Enough of this dumb narrative that only certain RP character stans whine when they all do them for every character.
@@xiogfuz gurl on god this is my first time commenting on an RP video lmao. Im just reacting on the fact that i see ray stans everyyyyywhere starting shit like this, sooo much more than other rp stans😂 (never said other stans don’t do it)
Carmella has stood at Chang Gang side, when called she runs and rescues all of them, Carmella made herself jump off a bridge to save Chang Gang!!!!
Carmella has always called when K isnt there, her opinions are just and straight to the point; hence everyone said Carmella Gang even with all Gang members around they learn to respect her, even NBC was happy to follow orders.
I’m team DRAMA
I’m team Carmella, I see both sides but I don’t think it’s fair to get a whole gang against one person. Bon bon only had Carmella in his corner, but now she can’t help because cg is involved. A 1v6 fight is lame🫤
Yeah, I see Carmella's POV too but if we were to look at Ray Mond's POV, this is the first time she asked CG for help in 4.0 and it wasn't really meant to be a CG vs BonBon thing because she only called Taco to ask how to learn to fight but Taco VOLUNTARILY gave her a gun and Ramee on the other hand, made a plan to set Bon Bon up.
The reason she didn't get CG involved in her fight with Carmella before is because she's close/part of CG which is something she doesn't want to do since it might piss them off. A huge part of the reason why CG's opinion matters to Ray Mond is because CG is the first real family she ever had since birth. Yes, she might have her twin brother but they're not that close.
Ray Mond didn't realize how close Carmella and BonBon were. She just thought they were Acquaintance in Passing due to the last she recalled, Carmella stabbed BonBon. Carmella's special connection to CG is also part of the reason why Ray Mond thinks that it's ok if she's the mediator in the talk with BonBon. She believed that Carmella would be by her side and wouldn't betray her despite Chatterbox's protest being her +1 in the meeting.
I think Ramee and Taco also didn't know that Carmella and Bon Bon were friends based on their reactions when Ray Mond told them she and Carmella were not friends anymore because of the setup thing. I think if they had known, they wouldn't do it.
Sorry for the long paragraphs, I just wanna share my opinion ❤😊
But ray never ask CG for help those this the first time she ask and it was just Ramee and taco and she was asking for advice fighting taco give her the gun and ramee already has plans to set bonbon maybe watch the stream for the content before being team ray mond or team Carmella
Don’t forget it was Ramee’s idea to setup BonBon in the first place and Ray never asked CG to get involved only to have CG’S back when Chatterbox wanted to kidnap Mr K
@@Tessachannel28 I watch both carmella and ray and you can enjoy the stream without agreeing with the character. Neither character is right or wrong but I like that Carmella stood up for bonbon. Also, it doesn’t matter if ray asked for help, the boys helped because they were under the impression that bonbon put her in the icu.
@@Marieadr lol youre so stupid did you ever watch both side it was ember the girl clowm who get her into icu and they know it was ember not bonbon