I have to say, if you live in less than ideal conditions like in Northern Europe during the autumn and spring i.e. when the balls go dead in 10 minutes or you tennis partners refuse to contribute with new balls and you just end up playing with old ones (which is the case for me)... Multifilaments are your friend. Since the balls are more dead, you are better off just having a big serve and keeping the points as short as possible.
I think babolat xcel black edition works really well. Gives you the good feeling trampoline effect of multis but snaps back everytime so it has good stringmovement and therefore good spin
What’s your experience with durability with xcel black? A long time ago I played with the xcel white (not sure color matters). I loved the feel but I used to break them quickly. Finally getting back in the game, definitely having some less power and thinking I should try it again now.
@@steviewonder2492 in my experience they have good durability and they hold tension very well. Especially the thicker guages. Im not the hardest hitter but my racket has a very open stringpattern so the strings move alot which should mean they break sooner, but they havent yet
I have been playing triax 1.33 at 57 lbs in the mains and alu power rough 1.25 at 54lbs in the crosses in the PS 97 and I really love it. It feels great with good spin and power
I tried all the Tecnifibre multis and definitely Triax was by far the best, and it lasted 3x the time vs their other multis (6 hours vs less than 2hrs). I'm not a string breaker, not in polys at least, never broken a 17g of Volkl Poly Tour Pro, which is my string of choice.
Interesting topic. 👍 When I got back to tennis after 15 years I got myself a new racket and strung it with Wilson Revolve. It was a good string but didn't last very long (didn't break but just got numb). Then I added Wilson NXT control in the mains and kept Revolve in the crosses but NXT would snap in 4-5 hours. Then I tried Babolat and Luxilon gut in the mains to replace NXT and it felt incredible. At the end just by chance once I had to go with Luxilon Fluoro 1.23 in the crosses instead of Revolve and didn't look back. That's still my perfect setup. Babolat NG mains 23.5kg and Luxilon AP Fluoro 22kg in the crosses (as I got better I did lower the tension quite a bit). It has it all... spin, control, comfort, feel... I'm just a bit worried that I don't see Fluoro anymore in online stores so I hope it is not discontinued. My stringer still has it. 🤞😁
@@jorgeandrescoppiano That is what I was afraid of. 😐 Haven't tried soft yet (I can still string with Fluoro at my local stringer) but it looks like I might soon. That would be my next pick. Sounds similar enough. 🤞
I was doing a very long test searching for my new setup. Finally I ended up with Voelkl Cyclone 1,20 mains/1,25 Velocity MLT crosses (both black) or Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 1,23 in mains. I also tried the Wilson Revolve, only big advantage for me was weaving crosses was very easy on the fingers with Revolve but I didn´t like the string.
I've been using multi mains and poly crosses for roughly last 15 years. I use Technifibre NRG2 16G multi mains at 52 lbs with Kirschbaum Max Power 17G poly cross at 48 lbs. I sometimes use Technifibre Multifeel 16G multi mains with Kirschbaum Max Power 17G poly too. I've tried gut mains and really like it but it is simply too expensive to use all the time. Kirschbaum Max Power is stiff poly but Tennis Warehouse rates it very high for tension maintenance. TF NRG2 and TF Multifeel also rate very high for tension maintenance.
I like Triax a lot in a hybrid with a round poly (4G Soft, Ice Code) to soften the string bed. My only issue is durability as it frays within 2 hours, and I hardly reach the 6 hours mark before it snaps, even as a cross.
I recently ordered ( by accident ) a wilson sensation Multifilament string ; already after 3 times if hitting the ball the strings were immediately displaced . I even noticed during the points that because the strings were moving around I got really weird launches and was struggling really bad with consistency . I then ordered the Babolat Hurricane poly and the difference for me was HUGE. It will take a lot of convincing of me even going back to multi ...
Great advice. I love the bite and control of Poly’s but if I use a multi I really think X-One Bi-phase is the best there is, but for a lower cost option I like TF Multifeel as well. It has pretty good spin and slightly stiffer feel. They fray and wear quickly but better to replace strings than your arm. Gut is amazing and everyone needs to try at least once.
I have used MLT in a hybrid setup interchanging with cross and mains, my last set up was Poly Pro Tour on the mains at 49 and MLT on crosses at 53lbs and before that I tried Lux Element on crosses at 49 and MLT on the mains at 53 which was a super soft set up. I found as the tension went on the latter setup the ball would sail more easily and I had to have really good full strokes with a high swing speed to get the ball to dip. Now I use Babolat Gut VS on mains pre stretched at 51 lbs and Babolat RPM blast (original round) at 49lbs on the crosses
I've been spoilt by hybrid - natural gut with alu power/rpm blast. But as my arm feels better I've been trying restring zero. Also, just got my hands on K pro (which I'm going to put on my new prestige pro) and going for wasabi and wasabi x on my Shift 99. Testing out this week!
Jonas in multis the tint is not interconstructed in the material, so color does not affects as much as in polyesters where the tint is "inside" de material
Well I have to disagree on the hybrid comment about most of the response comes the mains. I've been playing and experimenting with Hybrids for over 20 years. What I'm going to say is if you strung 2 identical racquets with the same mains (doesn't matter what it is) with different crosses that are similar and they'll play similar. But that's not to say that a very different cross at a different tension will NOT make and difference. Try this: Put a 16g stiff ploy like Tour bite in the Crosses at even tension. Then put Vel or MLT in the 2nd racquet at the same tension. Can you notice a difference? Same launch? same power level? Same control? Want to get crazy? put in T1 ghost wire or Cream in the crosses at let's say -2lb as a lot of people do and what's the response? Since most won't try this, here's my guide to cross strings: * You can generate a whole different POWER response with cross string selection. * You can completely change the launch angle from low to crazy high with cross string TENSION. But you want to know what's hard? Maximizing spin, control, power and feel with the cross string. It's taken me what feels like a lifetime (a lot has to do with my finicky elbow, thank god for prolo therapy), I've settled on a fairly stiff, not too slippery, pre-stretched 19g poly that's $8 a pack. This particular string has linear power which I believe to be the key to success for power swings as well as touch shots. I tried umpteen million co-polys and couldn't get any to really play great and/or stay consistent. This cross string works great for me with all versions of main strings at all tensions.
I think using no name synthetic gut or nylon gut that comes on some cheaper basic racquets, is what Tennisnerd is saying. I use becuse I have an aluminum model of ProKennex Jr Ace Pro Power contour 4 in the blue and red with 4 & 1/4 grip made 2002--2003 then 2 in the later 2003--2004 matt enamel yellow & black the stock string and will when they break or become very worn out almost breaking get a brand name Nylon gut 16 gauge strung at 55 pounds so they can drop to 50 pounds of tension after a use or 2 and be like my normal strings which are a 50 pound like one of the 2 yellow & black models or around this for the good ones not closer to needing a new string, of which . I got most in 2022 or 2024 for the red and blue version and yellow and black I use 2024 I also did my own over grip to my specs very few will like that was needed becuse the vinyl base grip is having the thin vinyl peel from the grip.
Because he has no clue about good synthetic, Gamma, Wilson, TF had some good synthetic Gut and last much longer then multi if stringed by fair stringer!
Jonas, got to be honest, I cant afford to restring my 3 rackets too regularly, and I moved from Yonex PTP to Luxilon Alu Power mainly because a lot of pros use it. My thinking was simplistic; if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me. Yes, I know, there are a lot of things to unpack there. But as I said, I cant really afford to go on a restring journey, and I only really restring when I break a string. My setup is the DR98, led tape at 12, and 52 pounds. The guys at Sergio's might tell you how I play. I'm the 6'4" Aussie - I like to hit the ball... hard... 😂😂😂
I used the Ezone 100 the past 2 years - I like the power and the feel, but I crave more control. I see you rockin the new radical MP and I remember you played the ezone 100 as well... is the new radical mp a bit similar to the ezone 100 in feel but with more control? we are playing similar tennis and similar skill level
QUESTION TO JONAS: if I like 20/20 Alu power but I have arm issues, would 23/23 Head Velocity black kind of feel like the same tension as the 20/20 Alu power? Or are multifilaments strung around the same tension as polys? I need to protect my arm so it’s either 17/17 Alu power or a higher full bed of control oriented multi. Any thoughts?!? Tak tak 🙏🌟
Sounds true, but there’s another dimension: the racket and string combination! In my old Prince O3 Tour i prefer the Head Velocity MLT (very nice multi) over a poly (feels dead). But in the Wilson Blade 100 the Luxilon Alupower works really well. Maybe it’s because the Prince has deceased, or the Blade is alive and kicking. Don’t know🤔
I have used Velocity MLT quite a bit but recently strung Yonex Rexis SPEED, not the regular Rexis and its amazing. I actually prefer that over Velocity MLT. Better snapback and feel, and it doesnt move and lock as quickly as Velocity from what i can tell.
I think you should talk about the materials and how they work or not work so well also include tension cross and main because otherwise we have to take your word.
The Head Velocity or Technifibre Triax are the way to go. Went to a 3 lb variance between the mains and crosses on full bed Triax and getting very good spin and control surprisingly... 51/48
I play with customized Head Speed S (specs similar to MP, rdc 69) Hyper G 16 in mains and 4G 16L in crossed both strung at 65 lbs. Stiff racket, stiff strings and high tension and I have no arm issues. I hit pretty hard and have good serve (4.5 level). I tried stringing at 48 because of all the current talk of stringing low and it killed my arm, took 2 weeks for it to heal. Maybe cuz I started playing in 70's when stringing at 70 was normal 😂
Well done video- one more time. I have some thoughts that i can share. I played with a Pure Drive plus ( relatively stiff racket) and recently switched to a Head Boom Pro and have tried full bed MLT natural, TF Multifeel, ISO Professional, Triax Clear, TF TGV, and hybrid set ups with VS Gut/Velocity MLT and VS Gut/TF Triax. All strings were 17g except for the Gut which was 16. Strung around 53-54.5. I also have a bad case of tennis elbow, am a 4.5 player with lots of spin on my forehand adn a top spin one handed backhand. Here's my take 1. Multi- feel on Head Boom PRO (BP): mushy. too soft and lack of control. No arm issues 2. Velocity MLT Black on BP: somewhat soft and pillowy No arm issues. Doesn't seem to have the power i want. 3. Velocity MLT natural- a little crisper on the BP. No arm issues. 4. TF TGV on BP: relatively crisp especially when new. Gets a little mushy when frayed. No perceptable arm issues. 5. Triax on PD+: crisp, liked the string but felt the arm was huring. Whether it was preciptated with the TRIAX i don't really know. 6. VS /Tiax on PD+. i played yesterday with this set up with a bad case of tennis elbow and alternated with my BP rackets. I liked this the best due to it being a little more powerful, nice spin and control HOWEVER, my arm is very sore today. It might be worth it though. 7. MLT on PD+: nice string but not as crisp a feel. At the time i was playing with it, my arm started to really hurt- that is when i thought it might be the racket and then i switched to the BP. So, the net of all of this is that i am not sure if my arm problems get better with a slightly more flexible frame with a softer multi. But clearly the PD+ with a gut hybrid is my6 preferred feel on the racket and i get a little more power. So my next move is to decrease the tension on the PD+ with a VS/TGV set up at around 52 for Gut and 50 for TGV and see if i can control it. When i use to play a lot, even with the PD racketsa, I was stringing at 68 with ISO PROfessional and i liked the control and feel. That tension with that racket and string would destroy my arm today!@! Hope this is useful to some of you. david
Also you made a great choice not using such a stiff racquet, although your better bet is to just use a larger head size for easier power, and better feel, because the hoop is going to bend more when it is bigger even though a lot of 105’s are at about 66RA and up. I don’t always think Stiffness is super accurate for some modern frames and that all depends on what it is actually made out of to begin with. But, I guess, graphite is just graphite lol
Gut is aggressive to elbow and not very playable on low tensions. If you like your elbow get racket with 18 mains quality Synthetic gut mains and thick rounded soft poly crosses which can go easily 4 kg less then mains. I am ok with under 25kg mains but try it less it is very playable!
I don’t agree with that. As a fairly good intermediate, I switched to poly and noticed a big difference in my game. Overall more confidence when swinging due to the added control. It gave me the confidence to hit hard without tightening my arm and body because of the fear of sending the ball away. I feel like playing with multis on powerful modern frames such as the pure drive or the ezone is a bit too much. The downside though is that I started having some pain in the arm, especially playing around 8 hrs per week. Maybe it’s worth trying some hybrid setup i.e. poly main and multi crosses.
@@nicolapipan7090 if you are a between intermadiate and advanced, it would be a good idea to try poly, as you said hybrid would be even more better choice. But i've seen some people as soon as they start playing, they're asking for hyper-g.
I've always heard synthetic is terrible. I've been using multi as crosses and poly main, and really like how it softens the bed. If you want a softer feel, there are racquets for this, like the solinco whiteout 305 18x20 you can barely feel the racquet hit the ball. Some people love this (like me) while others don't.
YESSSSSS listen i use Multi and will not change I am a multi Stan. I have also converted most people in my club to Multi as well 😂😂😂 I use Head Velocity MLT, but I use it in 1.25 black by the way. Stumbled on this video by accident
Hello Jonas and everybody else ! Thanks for a great video. I have a question and i need some advice. Currently i have started to use a Head Prestige Pro Youtek (98 sq,325g & 16x19) and i loved it but i after hitting for 1,5 hour i started to feel pain in my arm later that day. The stick is stringed with RPM blast and i want some help with a more armfriendly strins set-up. Thanks in advance!
I love Solinco strings, but when I play with them I have some problems with my elbow and wrist (the tennis racket I use is Wilson PSX and the string is Solinco Tour Bite Soft 24 kg). Do you think that I should choose one of the multi( if so, which one will guarantee a spin) or some other soft field?
I really love multi, they have excellent power and easy for the arms, I'm ok with the string movement of multi, but as I develop my swing now I think they seem to have too many power, and I haven't found a low power multi yet. My favorite is Wilson NXT, have try string them up to 55, but still feel too many power, and it feels like it looses tension a lot after several play. Never try string it higher than 55 though, I'm worried it would hurt my elbow. I try to hybrid the NXT with Volkl Cyclone, but the NXT just won't hang on, it looses tension easily so its make it feels weird, and also the NXT broke on the Cyclone. And NXT is not cheap, that why I get it that people get poly or co poly as it the better trade off plus minus (including the price) than multi. Meanwhile I haven't find poly or co poly that also give good respond to volley. Last is I try Luxilon M2 Pro, best poly I have tried, even better than Luxilon Alu Power, too bad it also have not too good respond of volleys, and also it is discontinued. So my take is, wish there is a bit low power Multi, that would be perfect.
For me, natural gut string gives excellent spin but only if you hit with full stroke through the ball. It is worth noting that you shouldn’t string a multifilament string higher than your usual tension. Thinking that you need to string it higher because it is softer defeats the purpose of using a multifilament.
Thats logic makes no sense, the material of the string and its structure to a poly you can claim that a higher tension defeats its purposes, if anything the higher tension allows more control because tension below 50lbs creates terrible control and the string is still softer than a poly in its mid 40s.
Back in the days, pro players used sandpaper in the 70s to roughen the surface of natural gut in order to get more spin. It also works with multis or polys. But don't do it before stringing. Do it, when the stringing of the racquet is done.
I strung my new prestige pro with Hawk Power at 52lb. It is pretty underpowered... I was wondering if I should just lower the tension or switch to multi...Usually I'm a lynx tour user, but I thought hawk power might be more powerful, but seem like it is not
I keep hearing stiff polys like solinco confidential are only for high level players. I'm a 3.5 and I feel like I can greatly benefit from this string. I love knowing that if I tighten up in a match, the string is dead enough that I have confidence to swing out knowing it won't go long. Arm pain took a few weeks getting used to and now I feel no pain with this string.
Velocity MLT 1.30 black is great! I´m planning to string in my Babolat Pure Strike 16x19, any recommended tension for this string in this racquet? Thanks man!
I tried mlt 1.25mm in my 18x20 youtek ig speed and really struggled to generate any spin, and i play with very heavy spin. I’ve since moved to a PA 2023 (100sq) with solinco confidential (52lbs) and loved it once settled in, but 10 hours later and its killing my elbow. Since i can’t afford to restring every 10 hours, I’m considering a hybrid with mlt again, perhaps with something like head lynx tour since it’s got such good tension maintenance for a poly. Just worried the shaped poly might chew through the multi. Anyone have any recommendations for a good poly to hybrid with mlt?
I need some multifilament advice... I play with a multi at about 50lbs. It's easy on my arm (a full bed of poly, even at 45-50lbs cause me elbow issues). So I love my multi, but CONSTANTLY having to straighten strings between points drives me mad. I have a set of Solinco Confidential, and I would like to try them in the crosses with the multi in the mains to see if i get better snap-back on the strings. Has anyone here done this for this reason? And if so, should I string same tension on both, or lower/higher on the crosses or mains?
Yes please review the Karue hybrid poly strings from Toroline. If I put multi in mains instead of crosses in a hybrid with poly, will it last longer (move less)?
I recently strung up Cyclone X Velocity MLT (natural) and was happily surprised with the spin. I probably play my best tennis with a full bed of Poly, but at 35, I'm better playing at 90% for a full match and able to back it up the following day without a sore arm
I have a PD with Rip Contro; and Velocity. Velocity is a little crisper. The Rip Control plays a little dead. Good control though but i did not like the sound.
if you are 3.5 just get the cheapest multi you can find and roll with it. All this talk of strings doesn't really matter when you aren't hitting hard enough.
I think the coaching community, at club level need a kick up their ass. I have coachines near me stringing kids with poly at 24/5 kg. becaue thats what the pro's use. And then wonder why their kids have bad joints. I think its time manufaturers did a better job at explaining what strings fit what type of player. As a Master Stringer and retired tennis coach, the information is just poor atm. Advice here is pretty solid. Which I am genuinly shocked about, but it comes from data driven and not someones opinion based on what pro played with what. Thats like a mechanic telling you to put F1 Soft slicks on your SUV
I played with Speed for the last 5 months and loved it. I tried Comfort after it was sent to me by mistake and actually like it just as good or better. Both are underrated strings.
Multifilament is only good for stringers to earn more money, it is much worse then good synthetic and much much worse then natural. Durability of Natural good makes it much cheaper then multifilament not speaking about much better specification which can easily change your set from 1-6 to 6-1! Wake up all customers. Those who do not play on clay just string what Pro are stringing! It is all just propaganda! When did you see Pro breaking string in the match? The most often playing guy in my club with fastest forehand had synthetic hybrid for 5 months, 90% of people play less then him however natural last much longer because its plasticity. Why will you string multi for half price which last 10 times less and plays 10 times worse! Wake up!
Hi, tennis nerds! Looking for any thought on Solinco Vanquish. General or comparisons, cause is significantly cheaper than other brands where I live. PS: Always enjoying your content, Jonas!
I have to say, if you live in less than ideal conditions like in Northern Europe during the autumn and spring i.e. when the balls go dead in 10 minutes or you tennis partners refuse to contribute with new balls and you just end up playing with old ones (which is the case for me)... Multifilaments are your friend. Since the balls are more dead, you are better off just having a big serve and keeping the points as short as possible.
I think babolat xcel black edition works really well. Gives you the good feeling trampoline effect of multis but snaps back everytime so it has good stringmovement and therefore good spin
What’s your experience with durability with xcel black? A long time ago I played with the xcel white (not sure color matters). I loved the feel but I used to break them quickly. Finally getting back in the game, definitely having some less power and thinking I should try it again now.
@@steviewonder2492 in my experience they have good durability and they hold tension very well. Especially the thicker guages. Im not the hardest hitter but my racket has a very open stringpattern so the strings move alot which should mean they break sooner, but they havent yet
I have been playing triax 1.33 at 57 lbs in the mains and alu power rough 1.25 at 54lbs in the crosses in the PS 97 and I really love it. It feels great with good spin and power
I also use a multi in the mains, and poly crosses. I dont know anyone else who uses this setup that I hit with but I like it.
Nice! Does it last more than 3 hours in terms of premature notching?
Triax is the best multi.
I concur ✌️
I tried all the Tecnifibre multis and definitely Triax was by far the best, and it lasted 3x the time vs their other multis (6 hours vs less than 2hrs).
I'm not a string breaker, not in polys at least, never broken a 17g of Volkl Poly Tour Pro, which is my string of choice.
Just started using Triax too. What tension & racquet are you using?
@@Brian-k8t In my case 53 pounds, Yonex Vcore Pro HD (2019 model)
Great for those suffering elbow issuss
Interesting topic. 👍 When I got back to tennis after 15 years I got myself a new racket and strung it with Wilson Revolve. It was a good string but didn't last very long (didn't break but just got numb). Then I added Wilson NXT control in the mains and kept Revolve in the crosses but NXT would snap in 4-5 hours. Then I tried Babolat and Luxilon gut in the mains to replace NXT and it felt incredible. At the end just by chance once I had to go with Luxilon Fluoro 1.23 in the crosses instead of Revolve and didn't look back. That's still my perfect setup. Babolat NG mains 23.5kg and Luxilon AP Fluoro 22kg in the crosses (as I got better I did lower the tension quite a bit). It has it all... spin, control, comfort, feel... I'm just a bit worried that I don't see Fluoro anymore in online stores so I hope it is not discontinued. My stringer still has it. 🤞😁
Seems to me it’s discontinued. I used it with Nxt Power in the mains. Have you tried Alu Power Soft? How does it compare to Fluoro?
Fluoro has been discontinued for 6+ years lol
@@jorgeandrescoppiano That is what I was afraid of. 😐 Haven't tried soft yet (I can still string with Fluoro at my local stringer) but it looks like I might soon. That would be my next pick. Sounds similar enough. 🤞
I was doing a very long test searching for my new setup.
Finally I ended up with Voelkl Cyclone 1,20 mains/1,25 Velocity MLT crosses (both black) or Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 1,23 in mains.
I also tried the Wilson Revolve, only big advantage for me was weaving crosses was very easy on the fingers with Revolve but I didn´t like the string.
I guess AP fluoro is poly and you ended up exactly where every clever person should Great stuff!
I've been using multi mains and poly crosses for roughly last 15 years. I use Technifibre NRG2 16G multi mains at 52 lbs with Kirschbaum Max Power 17G poly cross at 48 lbs. I sometimes use Technifibre Multifeel 16G multi mains with Kirschbaum Max Power 17G poly too. I've tried gut mains and really like it but it is simply too expensive to use all the time. Kirschbaum Max Power is stiff poly but Tennis Warehouse rates it very high for tension maintenance. TF NRG2 and TF Multifeel also rate very high for tension maintenance.
I like Triax a lot in a hybrid with a round poly (4G Soft, Ice Code) to soften the string bed. My only issue is durability as it frays within 2 hours, and I hardly reach the 6 hours mark before it snaps, even as a cross.
I recently ordered ( by accident ) a wilson sensation Multifilament string ; already after 3 times if hitting the ball the strings were immediately displaced . I even noticed during the points that because the strings were moving around I got really weird launches and was struggling really bad with consistency . I then ordered the Babolat Hurricane poly and the difference for me was HUGE. It will take a lot of convincing of me even going back to multi ...
This is constantly overlooked by the “NO amateur poly!” sect. Polys go back. Shifting strings like Sampras after every point is a drag.
Great advice. I love the bite and control of Poly’s but if I use a multi I really think X-One Bi-phase is the best there is, but for a lower cost option I like TF Multifeel as well. It has pretty good spin and slightly stiffer feel. They fray and wear quickly but better to replace strings than your arm. Gut is amazing and everyone needs to try at least once.
I have used MLT in a hybrid setup interchanging with cross and mains, my last set up was Poly Pro Tour on the mains at 49 and MLT on crosses at 53lbs and before that I tried Lux Element on crosses at 49 and MLT on the mains at 53 which was a super soft set up. I found as the tension went on the latter setup the ball would sail more easily and I had to have really good full strokes with a high swing speed to get the ball to dip. Now I use Babolat Gut VS on mains pre stretched at 51 lbs and Babolat RPM blast (original round) at 49lbs on the crosses
I've been spoilt by hybrid - natural gut with alu power/rpm blast.
But as my arm feels better I've been trying restring zero. Also, just got my hands on K pro (which I'm going to put on my new prestige pro) and going for wasabi and wasabi x on my Shift 99. Testing out this week!
Jonas in multis the tint is not interconstructed in the material, so color does not affects as much as in polyesters where the tint is "inside" de material
Also: Best combo for durability and softness: Soft Poly mains / Multi crosses, cheap example: Wilson Revolve 1.30 / Head MLT 1.30 all in black
For this kind of hybrid is wasting potential of multi. If you hybrid multi with poly I believe multi has to be at main.
Head Rip control was the go to at my club 25yrs ago, first time I’ve seen it mentioned for a long time. Had it in my Radicals back then at 65lbs😅
another vote for the head rip control. very great feeel
Most people should be using mltifilament not poly
People should bin multi it is wasting time and money Gut/soft poly for slow players full poly for heavy hitters!
Well I have to disagree on the hybrid comment about most of the response comes the mains. I've been playing and experimenting with Hybrids for over 20 years. What I'm going to say is if you strung 2 identical racquets with the same mains (doesn't matter what it is) with different crosses that are similar and they'll play similar. But that's not to say that a very different cross at a different tension will NOT make and difference. Try this: Put a 16g stiff ploy like Tour bite in the Crosses at even tension. Then put Vel or MLT in the 2nd racquet at the same tension. Can you notice a difference? Same launch? same power level? Same control? Want to get crazy? put in T1 ghost wire or Cream in the crosses at let's say -2lb as a lot of people do and what's the response?
Since most won't try this, here's my guide to cross strings: * You can generate a whole different POWER response with cross string selection. * You can completely change the launch angle from low to crazy high with cross string TENSION. But you want to know what's hard? Maximizing spin, control, power and feel with the cross string. It's taken me what feels like a lifetime (a lot has to do with my finicky elbow, thank god for prolo therapy), I've settled on a fairly stiff, not too slippery, pre-stretched 19g poly that's $8 a pack. This particular string has linear power which I believe to be the key to success for power swings as well as touch shots. I tried umpteen million co-polys and couldn't get any to really play great and/or stay consistent. This cross string works great for me with all versions of main strings at all tensions.
Could you reveal the name?
xcel black is also a great option for hybrid on the main!
Why avoid synthetic gut? Great video!
Good question. I use Gamma TNT and its a very good string for the price.
I think using no name synthetic gut or nylon gut that comes on some cheaper basic racquets, is what Tennisnerd is saying.
I use becuse I have an aluminum model of ProKennex Jr Ace Pro Power contour 4 in the blue and red with 4 & 1/4 grip made 2002--2003 then 2 in the later 2003--2004 matt enamel yellow & black the stock string and will when they break or become very worn out almost breaking get a brand name Nylon gut 16 gauge strung at 55 pounds so they can drop to 50 pounds of tension after a use or 2 and be like my normal strings which are a 50 pound like one of the 2 yellow & black models or around this for the good ones not closer to needing a new string, of which . I got most in 2022 or 2024 for the red and blue version and yellow and black I use 2024 I also did my own over grip to my specs very few will like that was needed becuse the vinyl base grip is having the thin vinyl peel from the grip.
Because he has no clue about good synthetic, Gamma, Wilson, TF had some good synthetic Gut and last much longer then multi if stringed by fair stringer!
Jonas, got to be honest, I cant afford to restring my 3 rackets too regularly, and I moved from Yonex PTP to Luxilon Alu Power mainly because a lot of pros use it. My thinking was simplistic; if it's good enough for them, it's good enough for me.
Yes, I know, there are a lot of things to unpack there. But as I said, I cant really afford to go on a restring journey, and I only really restring when I break a string. My setup is the DR98, led tape at 12, and 52 pounds. The guys at Sergio's might tell you how I play. I'm the 6'4" Aussie - I like to hit the ball... hard... 😂😂😂
I used the Ezone 100 the past 2 years - I like the power and the feel, but I crave more control. I see you rockin the new radical MP and I remember you played the ezone 100 as well... is the new radical mp a bit similar to the ezone 100 in feel but with more control?
we are playing similar tennis and similar skill level
QUESTION TO JONAS: if I like 20/20 Alu power but I have arm issues, would 23/23 Head Velocity black kind of feel like the same tension as the 20/20 Alu power? Or are multifilaments strung around the same tension as polys? I need to protect my arm so it’s either 17/17 Alu power or a higher full bed of control oriented multi. Any thoughts?!? Tak tak 🙏🌟
Sounds true, but there’s another dimension: the racket and string combination!
In my old Prince O3 Tour i prefer the Head Velocity MLT (very nice multi) over a poly (feels dead). But in the Wilson Blade 100 the Luxilon Alupower works really well. Maybe it’s because the Prince has deceased, or the Blade is alive and kicking. Don’t know🤔
I have used Velocity MLT quite a bit but recently strung Yonex Rexis SPEED, not the regular Rexis and its amazing. I actually prefer that over Velocity MLT. Better snapback and feel, and it doesnt move and lock as quickly as Velocity from what i can tell.
I think you should talk about the materials and how they work or not work so well also include tension cross and main because otherwise we have to take your word.
what's the point of using a poly over multi for durability when it loses it's tension so fast?
Poly creates spin and multi plays very flat in full bed!
The Head Velocity or Technifibre Triax are the way to go. Went to a 3 lb variance between the mains and crosses on full bed Triax and getting very good spin and control surprisingly... 51/48
I play with customized Head Speed S (specs similar to MP, rdc 69) Hyper G 16 in mains and 4G 16L in crossed both strung at 65 lbs. Stiff racket, stiff strings and high tension and I have no arm issues. I hit pretty hard and have good serve (4.5 level). I tried stringing at 48 because of all the current talk of stringing low and it killed my arm, took 2 weeks for it to heal. Maybe cuz I started playing in 70's when stringing at 70 was normal 😂
Tecnifibre X One Biphase and NRG2 and Head Velocity MLT are one of the best.
Well done video- one more time. I have some thoughts that i can share. I played with a Pure Drive plus ( relatively stiff racket) and recently switched to a Head Boom Pro and have tried full bed MLT natural, TF Multifeel, ISO Professional, Triax Clear, TF TGV, and hybrid set ups with VS Gut/Velocity MLT and VS Gut/TF Triax. All strings were 17g except for the Gut which was 16. Strung around 53-54.5. I also have a bad case of tennis elbow, am a 4.5 player with lots of spin on my forehand adn a top spin one handed backhand.
Here's my take
1. Multi- feel on Head Boom PRO (BP): mushy. too soft and lack of control. No arm issues
2. Velocity MLT Black on BP: somewhat soft and pillowy No arm issues. Doesn't seem to have the power i want.
3. Velocity MLT natural- a little crisper on the BP. No arm issues.
4. TF TGV on BP: relatively crisp especially when new. Gets a little mushy when frayed. No perceptable arm issues.
5. Triax on PD+: crisp, liked the string but felt the arm was huring. Whether it was preciptated with the TRIAX i don't really know.
6. VS /Tiax on PD+. i played yesterday with this set up with a bad case of tennis elbow and alternated with my BP rackets. I liked this the best due to it being a little more powerful, nice spin and control HOWEVER, my arm is very sore today. It might be worth it though.
7. MLT on PD+: nice string but not as crisp a feel. At the time i was playing with it, my arm started to really hurt- that is when i thought it might be the racket and then i switched to the BP.
So, the net of all of this is that i am not sure if my arm problems get better with a slightly more flexible frame with a softer multi. But clearly the PD+ with a gut hybrid is my6 preferred feel on the racket and i get a little more power. So my next move is to decrease the tension on the PD+ with a VS/TGV set up at around 52 for Gut and 50 for TGV and see if i can control it. When i use to play a lot, even with the PD racketsa, I was stringing at 68 with ISO PROfessional and i liked the control and feel. That tension with that racket and string would destroy my arm today!@!
Hope this is useful to some of you.
david
The control group is just the fact your arm is always sore from tennis elbow lol 😂
Also you made a great choice not using such a stiff racquet, although your better bet is to just use a larger head size for easier power, and better feel, because the hoop is going to bend more when it is bigger even though a lot of 105’s are at about 66RA and up. I don’t always think Stiffness is super accurate for some modern frames and that all depends on what it is actually made out of to begin with. But, I guess, graphite is just graphite lol
Gut is aggressive to elbow and not very playable on low tensions. If you like your elbow get racket with 18 mains quality Synthetic gut mains and thick rounded soft poly crosses which can go easily 4 kg less then mains. I am ok with under 25kg mains but try it less it is very playable!
Technifibre Multi-feel Black 1.30 has a spin raring on TWU of over 6.0...
I've been using Multifeel for about 5 years now in natural colour.
I tried the black and it doesn't play the same.
j
Agreed. I don't understand polyester love among rec players. There are plenty of good multiflaments exist and more suitable for low level of players
I don’t agree with that. As a fairly good intermediate, I switched to poly and noticed a big difference in my game. Overall more confidence when swinging due to the added control. It gave me the confidence to hit hard without tightening my arm and body because of the fear of sending the ball away. I feel like playing with multis on powerful modern frames such as the pure drive or the ezone is a bit too much. The downside though is that I started having some pain in the arm, especially playing around 8 hrs per week. Maybe it’s worth trying some hybrid setup i.e. poly main and multi crosses.
@@nicolapipan7090 if you are a between intermadiate and advanced, it would be a good idea to try poly, as you said hybrid would be even more better choice. But i've seen some people as soon as they start playing, they're asking for hyper-g.
Hi Jonas,
Thank you for the video. Are you still using string project gold / Magic ?
I used to strung my prestige Mp using Simon’s String of choice love it !
Best video ever Sir for knowledge ever
Try Gamma ocho XP multi. Doesn’t move or fray.
I use a hybrid of Ashaway Kevlar and Lux 4g. Super stiff and lasts a long time.
I use Head Rip Control 1.25 black and love it
Why is your racket takeback on the forehand so fast?
Would you say multi or synthetic are good to use for crosses in a hybrid? I am always confused about what to do with the 2 different tensions
I've always heard synthetic is terrible. I've been using multi as crosses and poly main, and really like how it softens the bed. If you want a softer feel, there are racquets for this, like the solinco whiteout 305 18x20 you can barely feel the racquet hit the ball. Some people love this (like me) while others don't.
YESSSSSS listen i use Multi and will not change I am a multi Stan. I have also converted most people in my club to Multi as well 😂😂😂 I use Head Velocity MLT, but I use it in 1.25 black by the way. Stumbled on this video by accident
Confidential 1.25 gage at 53. It’s pretty hard at the beginning, but keep my shots inside the court!
Technifibre NRG2 or xone bi-phase are great. I've been playing the bi-phase in 2023 and I like them very much. Very similar to natural gut.
what tension on the nrg2?
@@ThesGt Wilson Blade v8. Currently at 48 pounds but I preferred it at 50.
hawk touch reminds me of luxilon element with a little more pop
Seems like you take a super wide takeaway, even behind your back on your forehand. Have you tried making it a bit more compact?
Hello Jonas and everybody else !
Thanks for a great video. I have a question and i need some advice.
Currently i have started to use a Head Prestige Pro Youtek (98 sq,325g & 16x19) and i loved it but i after hitting for 1,5 hour i started to feel pain in my arm later that day. The stick is stringed with RPM blast and i want some help with a more armfriendly strins set-up.
Thanks in advance!
I love Solinco strings, but when I play with them I have some problems with my elbow and wrist (the tennis racket I use is Wilson PSX and the string is Solinco Tour Bite Soft 24 kg). Do you think that I should choose one of the multi( if so, which one will guarantee a spin) or some other soft field?
I really love multi, they have excellent power and easy for the arms, I'm ok with the string movement of multi, but as I develop my swing now I think they seem to have too many power, and I haven't found a low power multi yet.
My favorite is Wilson NXT, have try string them up to 55, but still feel too many power, and it feels like it looses tension a lot after several play. Never try string it higher than 55 though, I'm worried it would hurt my elbow. I try to hybrid the NXT with Volkl Cyclone, but the NXT just won't hang on, it looses tension easily so its make it feels weird, and also the NXT broke on the Cyclone. And NXT is not cheap, that why I get it that people get poly or co poly as it the better trade off plus minus (including the price) than multi.
Meanwhile I haven't find poly or co poly that also give good respond to volley. Last is I try Luxilon M2 Pro, best poly I have tried, even better than Luxilon Alu Power, too bad it also have not too good respond of volleys, and also it is discontinued.
So my take is, wish there is a bit low power Multi, that would be perfect.
For me, natural gut string gives excellent spin but only if you hit with full stroke through the ball.
It is worth noting that you shouldn’t string a multifilament string higher than your usual tension. Thinking that you need to string it higher because it is softer defeats the purpose of using a multifilament.
Thats logic makes no sense, the material of the string and its structure to a poly you can claim that a higher tension defeats its purposes, if anything the higher tension allows more control because tension below 50lbs creates terrible control and the string is still softer than a poly in its mid 40s.
why do dark colors give more control?
How do you rate TF X-One Biphase? I have used it for a long time and really like it.
Hello, by any chance, do you know what string Marozsan is using? Thanks
Multifeel
the black version 👍
Jonas, what do you mean by responsive? Some relate it to the feel, others power, others spin.
Can you get the ERT 300 in the USA?
Back in the days, pro players used sandpaper in the 70s to roughen the surface of natural gut in order to get more spin. It also works with multis or polys. But don't do it before stringing. Do it, when the stringing of the racquet is done.
What was the score against the pro Marco?
I strung my new prestige pro with Hawk Power at 52lb. It is pretty underpowered... I was wondering if I should just lower the tension or switch to multi...Usually I'm a lynx tour user, but I thought hawk power might be more powerful, but seem like it is not
have you tried velocity MLT on a hybrid with a polyester? Does it react well?
Works great until the Velocity's coating breaks down. Then there is a sudden drop in spin. But until that point you are golden!
@@vanodne did you use it on main or cross
@@brunoalves3736 Both. Actually using it right now as a cross with Lynx Tour mains on a Gravity Pro.
Weiss cannon power principle best for cross
I keep hearing stiff polys like solinco confidential are only for high level players. I'm a 3.5 and I feel like I can greatly benefit from this string. I love knowing that if I tighten up in a match, the string is dead enough that I have confidence to swing out knowing it won't go long. Arm pain took a few weeks getting used to and now I feel no pain with this string.
The problem that multi doesn’t last that long. I like the feel, but as soon as it frays it loses all the jam. Plus it breaks like there is no tomorrow
Velocity MLT 1.30 black is great! I´m planning to string in my Babolat Pure Strike 16x19, any recommended tension for this string in this racquet? Thanks man!
I have 16g in my PS 98 at 52lbs. Love it!
does stringing velocity mt at 45lb would be very trampoline? is 50 ideal then?
Jonas, have you tried Prince Lightning Pro?
I tried mlt 1.25mm in my 18x20 youtek ig speed and really struggled to generate any spin, and i play with very heavy spin. I’ve since moved to a PA 2023 (100sq) with solinco confidential (52lbs) and loved it once settled in, but 10 hours later and its killing my elbow. Since i can’t afford to restring every 10 hours, I’m considering a hybrid with mlt again, perhaps with something like head lynx tour since it’s got such good tension maintenance for a poly. Just worried the shaped poly might chew through the multi. Anyone have any recommendations for a good poly to hybrid with mlt?
Polytour pro is good with it
I liked the ones I tried but I tried triax once and snapped it within 3 hours. None ithers were any better for durability really.
I need some multifilament advice... I play with a multi at about 50lbs. It's easy on my arm (a full bed of poly, even at 45-50lbs cause me elbow issues). So I love my multi, but CONSTANTLY having to straighten strings between points drives me mad. I have a set of Solinco Confidential, and I would like to try them in the crosses with the multi in the mains to see if i get better snap-back on the strings. Has anyone here done this for this reason? And if so, should I string same tension on both, or lower/higher on the crosses or mains?
I've been using technifibre triax multi for yonks and it doesn't displace, might be worth a try
Yes please review the Karue hybrid poly strings from Toroline. If I put multi in mains instead of crosses in a hybrid with poly, will it last longer (move less)?
No
If you want to continue playing into your 50 or 60, multi is the string to go.
I recently strung up Cyclone X Velocity MLT (natural) and was happily surprised with the spin.
I probably play my best tennis with a full bed of Poly, but at 35, I'm better playing at 90% for a full match and able to back it up the following day without a sore arm
90% of rec club players should be playing with at least a half bed of multi.
Just give me a set of IsoSpeed Professional classic or Control classic 👏👏
ISO Speed Pro was my string for about 15 years. I have switched.
Jonas, why do you say to avoid synthetic gut?
They tend to be cheaper strings without spin potential and with poor durability.
@@Tennisnerd thanks... I didn't realize the spin potential was generally poor for nylon
they stopped selling head hawk touch red as a reel : (
Can you please also comment on using multifilament in hybrid with poly?
do it all the time! great thing to do, jus tmakes sur eyou string the Multi at about 53lbs is you string the poly at 48lbs
@@CH-yp5by poly main and multi crosses?
Anyone tried Rip Control and Velocity? How do they compare? Which is more dampened? Controlled? More spin?
I have a PD with Rip Contro; and Velocity. Velocity is a little crisper. The Rip Control plays a little dead. Good control though but i did not like the sound.
@@dmf30 thanks Dave! Too low pitch?
@@jorgeandrescoppiano More like a dull thud!!! If you can handle triax i think that might work. What racket are you using?
@@dmf30 Pro Staff 97 v10 with Gosen Poly Professional.
What tension would you recommend stringing head rip control in a head speed pro racket
How can anyone recommend anything for you when nobody knows how you hit?
Just keep restringing untill you get tension that works for you
When i strung on the pro tour, Simon did not use intellitour.
What did he use hahaha
Head RIP control
multis most anoying thing is string moving, I hate it. it moves a lot. thats why I prefer gut+poliester hybrid, it moves very rarely.
What tension for velocity mlt in rackets would you recommend.
Stop
What tension is suutable for wilson blade 104 if using head velocity mlt 17 ? Thank you
Wilson blade 104? Really????
if you are 3.5 just get the cheapest multi you can find and roll with it. All this talk of strings doesn't really matter when you aren't hitting hard enough.
Rule #1. Get the cost factor out of the equation.
Like how much of a difference does it really make, seriously
I think the coaching community, at club level need a kick up their ass. I have coachines near me stringing kids with poly at 24/5 kg. becaue thats what the pro's use. And then wonder why their kids have bad joints. I think its time manufaturers did a better job at explaining what strings fit what type of player. As a Master Stringer and retired tennis coach, the information is just poor atm. Advice here is pretty solid. Which I am genuinly shocked about, but it comes from data driven and not someones opinion based on what pro played with what. Thats like a mechanic telling you to put F1 Soft slicks on your SUV
"If you want to improve" take lessons from an excellent teaching pro 😂
Pure drive 2021, advise tension and string
Kevlar strings at 65lb
Velocity Black is terrible, I tell everyone to avoid it. Once the black coating wears off the stringbed is locked.
Which color would you recommend then? Natural?
True... black multifeel is worse...
Yonex Rexis Speed. Don’t look any further. Spent hundreds of dollars to arrive at this. At 56lbs. Thank me later.
I played with Speed for the last 5 months and loved it. I tried Comfort after it was sent to me by mistake and actually like it just as good or better. Both are underrated strings.
@@robertclary1718 thanks. Does comfort have similar speed/power?
@awa3374 yes I think it does. I really expected more power and less spin but that's not the case.
Velocity in black gets notched in 15 minutes of play with me. Terrible string.
Multifilament is only good for stringers to earn more money, it is much worse then good synthetic and much much worse then natural. Durability of Natural good makes it much cheaper then multifilament not speaking about much better specification which can easily change your set from 1-6 to 6-1! Wake up all customers. Those who do not play on clay just string what Pro are stringing! It is all just propaganda! When did you see Pro breaking string in the match? The most often playing guy in my club with fastest forehand had synthetic hybrid for 5 months, 90% of people play less then him however natural last much longer because its plasticity. Why will you string multi for half price which last 10 times less and plays 10 times worse! Wake up!
Hi, tennis nerds! Looking for any thought on Solinco Vanquish. General or comparisons, cause is significantly cheaper than other brands where I live.
PS: Always enjoying your content, Jonas!