Thanks for this. Being a sports mad kid back in the late 60’s early 70’s I still miss the cold, wet Saturdays back home in England, in front of the fire watching the 4+ hours of Grandstand. Not being a horse racing fan, it was always great when it snowed and racing was canceled allowing the show to put on some ‘bonus’ sporting clip.
Manchester City 0 Blackpool 3 , May 4th, 1963! Also, when I was a kid, that teleprinter was one of the most exciting ways of getting final footy scores. We didn't get many latest scores in those days, so we often had to wait (with bated breath) for the away team's goal tally to be printed to know the final score.
Thoroughly enjoyed your compilation. I thank you most particularly for one highly evocative and emotional clip, the earliest intro and Theme Tune I can remember. Boyhood memories of sitting in front of our 405 line television, around Saturday lunchtime, came flooding back. Personally, that has re iconic Title Sequence
@@bdavebaldwin How's that for a coincidence, we're both the same age. I always thought there were additional shots of the OB van with the camera rotating so the four lensed turret filled the TV screen. They reprised the basic format when they changed cameras to those with a zoom lens capability. Maybe I'm showing my age, but I consider this music as the most stirring Grandstand theme.
@@malcolmbrewis5582 The first 20 seconds was on film and used nearly all the time it then faded to the studio or OB. There’s a few examples on the playlist - but they’re very thin on the ground. BTW Happy Birthday 🥳
Was never into sport, but in those pre-internet days there wasn't much for kids to do on a cold winter Saturday afternoon, so I watched a lot of Grandstand. I remember they used the teleprinter into the 1980s, just seems so archaic now, pointing a camera at a teleprinter.
4th May 1963 Sth London dominates the Amateur Cup Final with my team Wimbledon winning 4-2 with Eddie Reynolds scoring for the one and only time so far at Wembley a hat-trick of all headers.
Such an increbible collection. But I must say...I don't know whether the comments underneath are even more incredible. Some people remember amazing things from those days. These weren't my times, but I am not indifferent to people's emotional drives, whatever the country or the historical time. The BBC did (and still does) great things, but it did it for and thanks to people who cared and were passionate about what they listened to and watched. And no, I don't work for the BBC ...... 🙂
Great clips. I have loads of Grandstand clips from the 1990s and 2000s. Title sequences, endings, football focus, final score/match reports, clips from the 30th anniversary edition in 1993. If I knew how to, I would put some clips on here... but I don't
I once was watching cricket on BBC and laker handed over to benaud. For 20 minutes you could tell the microphone was open but nothing was said. Afterwards Richie just said that he didn't need to say anything. Nowadays they don't know when to stop talking
Apparently Grandstand had another theme tune between the original 50s and 60s theme and the classic 1975 theme which lasted (bar a revamp around 1999) until 2007. Any footage from around 1973-74 may include this elusive short lived theme...
+waqar khan Had to watch the whole thing again to remind me:) . It was because World of Sport ended and Des Lynam the following week began with 'Once we were your number 1 now are are your only 1'
There was a YT post of a special Wednesday Teatime edition from June 1973 covering the Poland v England World Cup qualifier with the 1971/75 theme but sadly been deleted but recently reuploaded
Going back to the horse racing...did the guy on the top of the camera car out in 'the country' ever fall off? Ps why did they use Citroens? Were no British cars available?
1/ sport of royalty and all that. 2/ in the 1950s the BBC ensured that itv was dealt out of sport by signing up long term deals. World of Sport started 20 years after itv did. You could probably say the concentration in the pools wasn’t exactly a BBC thing. If you watch the Nationwide titles sequences there is a brave bloke on the top of a car with a camera going a lot faster than the run of the mill cart horse.
The initial montage just showed you the sports you never see these days on terrestrial television. Swimming..badminton..moto-cross. Whatever happened to them?
All very interesting but I could never understand the tie-up with horse racing and gambling. Hours of coverage from places like Newbury and Chepstow. Aimless shots up the final furlong whilst race cards and odds were mulled over. It was a low point.
Terrific stuff as ever, David. Thoughts: What kind of starting price is 100-7? The 'ACTION - SCORES - RESULTS - REPORTS' line which scrolled across the early '80s titles was reminiscent of Election Night titles from the same period. Intrigued by what the two matches were which Frank Bough reckoned "could have a profound effect on the outcome of the Football League Championship". Rather unfortunate for the four snooker players that the bleached out, boxed photos made them look like a criminal gang being shown on the news. Good to see at 6:27 the 'Sport For All' Sports Council banner which was such a ubiquitous presence at British sporting venues during the '80s. Bit snide of Des Lynam to make a veiled reference to the demise of World Of Sport?
The 1975 opening titles was a updated version of the 1958 opening but with the original camera replaced by a colour camera this sequence contained clips of the 1975 Rugby League Challenge Cup Final between Widnes and Warrington. This may have been used until 1978 or 1979. The ACTION- SCORES-RESULTS-REPORTS scrolled titles were from 1979/1980 the first bit was filmed at Ascot Racecourse this also contained the clip of Malcolm Wilson upending the MKII Ford Escort (which also appeared on the Motor Mayhem video). The first animated Grandstand titles were introduced in May 1981 with the spinning wheel titles on the black background this might have coincided with the introduction of Sunday Grandstand which are not on this video but is on YT a second version that may also be on YT is the 1984 Grand National Grandstand version with the first use of the Champions theme by Carl Davis with the past winners and a clip of the film's opening before switching to the Grandstand titles, the pitch titles were introduced in April/May 1984 (I wrongly thought this came after the LA Olympics) then in 1986 came the Grandstand racetrack grandstand opening this lasted even with the 1988 introduction of the BBC Sport ident and in late 1992 (Just after the Barcelona Olympics) the globe based titles were introduced. This lasted until 1996 when a new cgi version of the BBC Sport globe ident was introduced in time for the European Football Championship hosted by England. There was also a gold version which was used only for the Atlanta Olympics
@@darren2514fv The globe titles were brought in immediately after the end of the 1992 Olympics on the first Saturday after the closing ceremony. That was the first time we saw the 'multi coloured' bands round that particular globe as the Olympics only had the gold colours. The 1996 titles and new BBC Sport globe actually changed again in June in time for Euro 96 not the Atlantic Olympics which came later in the summer.
I am not much of a better, but were the 100/ odds based on the number of half crowns (2/6d) in the pound? Eight half crowns to a pound. Still, £4/ 11 and eightpence would have have been a right result for a working man back then., Proper Grandstand music then, not the modern jazzy stuff brought in later. Saturday afternoons were magic, choose Grandstand or World of Sport or switch between the two,(get up and change the channel, no remote controls then).
Paul yates Nothing exists. The only recording of studio material was in 1963 when the BBC decided to keep a record of a full days output. Really much of the programme was just linking outside broadcasts together there wasn't any need to preserve them
@@bdavebaldwin Thanks I was wondering due to Bob Wilson saying good morning at the end of the clip given that there was a early start that day due to Cricket which was the 4th ODI between England and Pakistan
More of a parade off a cliff wasn't it? Bob Wilson went to itv around 1995 and then had to make a bit of room for Des Lynam in 1995, who in turn got elbowed out by Steve Rider in 2005 only for him to get a nudge from Adrian Chiles in 2010. Tough at the bottom eh?
David I must correct you on some of the dates Bob Wilson left The BBC to join ITV in 1994 Desmond Lynam went to ITV in 1999 yes Steve Rider joined ITV in 2005 and Adrian Childs in 2010
Would have been in September 1985 as Des was alluding to the demise of World of Sport the week before. Remember him saying this and thinking that it was a bit below the belt!
Steffan Hoffmann unfortunately all the super 8 off screen material no longer exists plus the VHS copies and the other archive footage are deteriorating so I usually fling in as much as possible to in some form preserve the footage. The BBC with its much vaunted archive rarely digs into it.
What I wouldn't give for this to come back, even for just one day.
Thanks for this. Being a sports mad kid back in the late 60’s early 70’s I still miss the cold, wet Saturdays back home in England, in front of the fire watching the 4+ hours of Grandstand. Not being a horse racing fan, it was always great when it snowed and racing was canceled allowing the show to put on some ‘bonus’ sporting clip.
Manchester City 0 Blackpool 3 , May 4th, 1963! Also, when I was a kid, that teleprinter was one of the most exciting ways of getting final footy scores. We didn't get many latest scores in those days, so we often had to wait (with bated breath) for the away team's goal tally to be printed to know the final score.
Thoroughly enjoyed your compilation. I thank you most particularly for one highly evocative and emotional clip, the earliest intro and Theme Tune I can remember. Boyhood memories of sitting in front of our 405 line television, around Saturday lunchtime, came flooding back. Personally, that has re iconic Title Sequence
……and it should have been 63 years old this week
@@bdavebaldwin How's that for a coincidence, we're both the same age. I always thought there were additional shots of the OB van with the camera rotating so the four lensed turret filled the TV screen. They reprised the basic format when they changed cameras to those with a zoom lens capability. Maybe I'm showing my age, but I consider this music as the most stirring Grandstand theme.
@@malcolmbrewis5582 The first 20 seconds was on film and used nearly all the time it then faded to the studio or OB. There’s a few examples on the playlist - but they’re very thin on the ground. BTW Happy Birthday 🥳
Before video and youtube, the opening credits for Grand National grandstand got me very excited
The good old teleprinter. Remember it like yesterday!
Was never into sport, but in those pre-internet days there wasn't much for kids to do on a cold winter Saturday afternoon, so I watched a lot of Grandstand. I remember they used the teleprinter into the 1980s, just seems so archaic now, pointing a camera at a teleprinter.
I am a 49 year old disabled sports fan,but even I have never heard of 100/7 Great Video. GOD BLESS!
4th May 1963 Sth London dominates the Amateur Cup Final with my team Wimbledon winning 4-2 with Eddie Reynolds scoring for the one and only time so far at Wembley a hat-trick of all headers.
Enjoyed this very much. Funny that one of the results was United winning 1-0 away to Burnley as that was the case yesterday too! 😊 1963 and 2023,
David Coleman, the teleprinter - good times !
Fantastic upload. I'd love to see an entire 70's Grandstand (and a World of Sport). Thank you for sharing.
You’d be lucky, I don’t think any *complete* episodes of either survive from that time.
Who would have thought in 1963 that Wimbledon and Watford would have got to the Premier Division?
Such an increbible collection. But I must say...I don't know whether the comments underneath are even more incredible. Some people remember amazing things from those days. These weren't my times, but I am not indifferent to people's emotional drives, whatever the country or the historical time.
The BBC did (and still does) great things, but it did it for and thanks to people who cared and were passionate about what they listened to and watched.
And no, I don't work for the BBC ...... 🙂
Great clips. I have loads of Grandstand clips from the 1990s and 2000s. Title sequences, endings, football focus, final score/match reports, clips from the 30th anniversary edition in 1993. If I knew how to, I would put some clips on here... but I don't
The 30th Anniversary edition was in 1988, 1993 was the 35th Anniversary
Back in the days when sport wasn't run by billionaire owners - footballer's wages weren't obscene and commentators were gentlemen
I once was watching cricket on BBC and laker handed over to benaud. For 20 minutes you could tell the microphone was open but nothing was said. Afterwards Richie just said that he didn't need to say anything. Nowadays they don't know when to stop talking
@@bdavebaldwin Two great commentators
It is a shame that October 2018 will not see a celebration of the 60th anno of this show
Fantastic video and I can positively identify the date of the clip @ 2.55 - 6th December 1980
Great post David. Football results from 4th May 1963 - sadly I missed my beloved Orient in the top flight. I was only 5 !
The Liverpool goal at 4:40 is immediately followed by celebrations at Old Trafford...
Those results on May 4 1963 were due to the football season being extended due to the bad winter
Missed the early 70’s music.
News Scoop lasted in the same form from 1958 to 1971 and the third theme for much of 1975 to 2007 - how many other tv shows could boast that?
the clip @ 3.58 is the week after Aldaniti's Grand National win, 11th April 1981
l love grandstand and world of sport on a Saturday. l missed those programme. it's not the same really.
I still preferred the teleprinter to the videoprinter. I guess I'm just old..😂😂
Apparently Grandstand had another theme tune between the original 50s and 60s theme and the classic 1975 theme which lasted (bar a revamp around 1999) until 2007. Any footage from around 1973-74 may include this elusive short lived theme...
I've listed it under BBC Grandstand theme 1971 - it's not a lot but it's all I could find.
+waqar khan Had to watch the whole thing again to remind me:) . It was because World of Sport ended and Des Lynam the following week began with 'Once we were your number 1 now are are your only 1'
There was a YT post of a special Wednesday Teatime edition from June 1973 covering the Poland v England World Cup qualifier with the 1971/75 theme but sadly been deleted but recently reuploaded
@@darren2514fv I already posted it, having downloaded it in that tiniest time it was uploaded.
@@YeOldeFootballChannel Someone else reuploaded the full match with the 1971/75 theme
Grew up with this theme tune so sad bbc cut this
Think you missed out the early 1980s one with the black version
Going back to the horse racing...did the guy on the top of the camera car out in 'the country' ever fall off? Ps why did they use Citroens? Were no British cars available?
1/ sport of royalty and all that. 2/ in the 1950s the BBC ensured that itv was dealt out of sport by signing up long term deals. World of Sport started 20 years after itv did. You could probably say the concentration in the pools wasn’t exactly a BBC thing. If you watch the Nationwide titles sequences there is a brave bloke on the top of a car with a camera going a lot faster than the run of the mill cart horse.
The initial montage just showed you the sports you never see these days on terrestrial television. Swimming..badminton..moto-cross. Whatever happened to them?
The start of that clip, must be old David Coleman was well young in it.
All very interesting but I could never understand the tie-up with horse racing and gambling. Hours of coverage from places like Newbury and Chepstow. Aimless shots up the final furlong whilst race cards and odds were mulled over. It was a low point.
Terrific stuff as ever, David.
Thoughts:
What kind of starting price is 100-7?
The 'ACTION - SCORES - RESULTS - REPORTS' line which scrolled across the early '80s titles was reminiscent of Election Night titles from the same period.
Intrigued by what the two matches were which Frank Bough reckoned "could have a profound effect on the outcome of the Football League Championship".
Rather unfortunate for the four snooker players that the bleached out, boxed photos made them look like a criminal gang being shown on the news.
Good to see at 6:27 the 'Sport For All' Sports Council banner which was such a ubiquitous presence at British sporting venues during the '80s.
Bit snide of Des Lynam to make a veiled reference to the demise of World Of Sport?
100/7 - as with a few SPs still around harked back to £SD. 100 shillings = £5 now rounded and replaced by 14/1
The 1975 opening titles was a updated version of the 1958 opening but with the original camera replaced by a colour camera this sequence contained clips of the 1975 Rugby League Challenge Cup Final between Widnes and Warrington. This may have been used until 1978 or 1979. The ACTION- SCORES-RESULTS-REPORTS scrolled titles were from 1979/1980 the first bit was filmed at Ascot Racecourse this also contained the clip of Malcolm Wilson upending the MKII Ford Escort (which also appeared on the Motor Mayhem video). The first animated Grandstand titles were introduced in May 1981 with the spinning wheel titles on the black background this might have coincided with the introduction of Sunday Grandstand which are not on this video but is on YT a second version that may also be on YT is the 1984 Grand National Grandstand version with the first use of the Champions theme by Carl Davis with the past winners and a clip of the film's opening before switching to the Grandstand titles, the pitch titles were introduced in April/May 1984 (I wrongly thought this came after the LA Olympics) then in 1986 came the Grandstand racetrack grandstand opening this lasted even with the 1988 introduction of the BBC Sport ident and in late 1992 (Just after the Barcelona Olympics) the globe based titles were introduced. This lasted until 1996 when a new cgi version of the BBC Sport globe ident was introduced in time for the European Football Championship hosted by England. There was also a gold version which was used only for the Atlanta Olympics
Flickyhecky 2min 36sec in, is a clip of the end of the close credits as the camera goes back to a side-on view (from super 8 footage)
I thought that was a bit of a low blow by Des too - I preferred Dickie, even if he hated the wrestling!
@@darren2514fv The globe titles were brought in immediately after the end of the 1992 Olympics on the first Saturday after the closing ceremony. That was the first time we saw the 'multi coloured' bands round that particular globe as the Olympics only had the gold colours. The 1996 titles and new BBC Sport globe actually changed again in June in time for Euro 96 not the Atlantic Olympics which came later in the summer.
I am not much of a better, but were the 100/ odds based on the number of half crowns (2/6d) in the pound? Eight half crowns to a pound. Still, £4/ 11 and eightpence would have have been a right result for a working man back then., Proper Grandstand music then, not the modern jazzy stuff brought in later. Saturday afternoons were magic, choose Grandstand or World of Sport or switch between the two,(get up and change the channel, no remote controls then).
100 shillings would = £5 then so 7 shillings would have won you a fiver. Decimalisation rounded the odds to 14/1
@@bdavebaldwin Thanks for that . Well explained.
6:41 1st June 1986
I'm looking for the first ever televised grandstand can you help
Paul yates Nothing exists. The only recording of studio material was in 1963 when the BBC decided to keep a record of a full days output. Really much of the programme was just linking outside broadcasts together there wasn't any need to preserve them
3:57 April 1981
and look what happened to Chester
4:50 April 1984
I hate TV sport, but I like the Grandstand theme! However, I was only waiting for DOCTOR WHO to start! 👍😂
What's the date of the last clip
22/8/92
@@bdavebaldwin Thanks I was wondering due to Bob Wilson saying good morning at the end of the clip given that there was a early start that day due to Cricket which was the 4th ODI between England and Pakistan
2:06 Is this clip was recorded by using Super 8 camera?! When was it recorded?
During 1976 I would guess - that's the year of the BBC1 Christmas ident shown and I didn't keep the super 8 camera for too long
Ok
David Baldwin 1976? :O
Its hard to think that by the end of the 1990's Des Lynham and Bob Wilson would be working for ITV not the BBC
More of a parade off a cliff wasn't it? Bob Wilson went to itv around 1995 and then had to make a bit of room for Des Lynam in 1995, who in turn got elbowed out by Steve Rider in 2005 only for him to get a nudge from Adrian Chiles in 2010. Tough at the bottom eh?
David I must correct you on some of the dates Bob Wilson left The BBC to join ITV in 1994 Desmond Lynam went to ITV in 1999 yes Steve Rider joined ITV in 2005 and Adrian Childs in 2010
Cheers for the corrections - the 1st was close the second a typo !
@@richardsharpe2966 The Steve Rider going to ITV in 2005 was a return as he started his career at ITV between 1977-85
At the end we hear "should anything dominate grandstand"; ironic it was dominated by the bbc getting rid of it.
No Liverpool in the first division but Leyton Orient were! 1961?
cashcrop70 1963
thanks. Liverpool were in the first division 1962-3 but didn't play that day, it seems. It was L Orient's only season in the top flight I found out.
cashcrop70 May 4th 1963
What's the date of 6:41
1/6/86
Would have been in September 1985 as Des was alluding to the demise of World of Sport the week before. Remember him saying this and thinking that it was a bit below the belt!
6:22 5 October 1985
7:28 22 August 1992
2:55 December 1980
Looking back I realise satellite tv ruined sport.
My late father loved Grandstand before he immigrated to America
100/7 Old school odds! Not of that decimal rubbish
Nice memories but this was repetetive imo
Steffan Hoffmann unfortunately all the super 8 off screen material no longer exists plus the VHS copies and the other archive footage are deteriorating so I usually fling in as much as possible to in some form preserve the footage. The BBC with its much vaunted archive rarely digs into it.
@@bdavebaldwin understood. Ignore my comments.