I'm devastated Endur, you really hurt my feelings... Anyway, that doesn't change the fact that the video is a real banger, it's good to see that you are increasing your repertoire of characters, I'm eager to see more. W edit dude.
HOW? Endur, this take is just insane. Patrick takes Abstract Reasoning, Deductive Reasoning, Abductive Reasoning, Inductive Reasoning, Logical Reasoning, Emotional Engagement, Emotional Perception, Emotional Understanding, Emotional Manipulation and Overall Planning + Wins V.High diff (-) Plase answer if you want to debate and show me the feats and why you gave these categories to Tokuchi spetially PLANNING AND EQ, i really want to know your point (I watched the anime a year ago and read the manga about a mounth ago)
I cant even begin my arguments on how many cats were wrong here, Besides many points weren't even added but I guess this wasn't full scale so its ok. PJ wins very high (-) for me as of now this may go lower considering I am analysing PJ once more so I don't know. W edit tho
I understand why people think Kaitani's characters are overrated. First, I see Schmel giving the win to Souichi PM, then I see Akiyama somehow losing to Akagi (Ten+Prime) very high-extreme diff by many people which is impossible if you have read the manga. Then I see Aki taking Manipulation and Social Skills against FKN PJ.
The edit is fire as always and i really like your takes BUT this one is an exception. Imo iq, eq, sq, ovr reasoning, ovr thinking, ovr manipulation, ovr deception and planning goes to Patrick Jane. Takuchi takes strategy and looses high diff. Please dont hate me endur, i love your videos :( Tokuchi is a great character, one of the best EQ in animanga but against PJ there's nothing he can do. Mind Reader vs More Experienced Mind Reader...
I gave General Intelligence to Jane I think EQU is close and I should have highlighted that in the video however I stand with Tokuchi taking EQM and EQP (possibly EQE in the future but ill wait to solidify this take) Reasoning is fair enough, this was the part I was quite unsure about. However I do think Deductive goes to Tokuchi. I agree with Manipulation and Deception I'd like to hear your reasoning for Jane taking Planning? Dont worry man, im not gonna hate you over a difference in opinion 😅Im just glad you enjoy the videos and take time out of your day to watch them :)
@@endur_ I disagree with EQ and Logical Reasoning and a few other categories. And Patrick very high diff(+). Maybe our opinions are so different because I don't fully understand how your system works. Maybe when I get into the details of the system, I will come to the same opinion. I still think it is one of the best, if not the best system.
@@komal-lamok I think EQU is very close and I should have highlighted that in the video But I stand with my opinion on Tokuchi taking EQM and EQP. I may also potentially be able to make arguments for Tokuchi taking EQE but this will require some more analysis. I have a community post describing how my system works if you havent already read it anyway I appreciate the fact you hold my system in high regard :)
Absolutely Goated video and edit 🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐🐐. It's good to see ppl scaling tokuchi above PJ (since I'm one of them). Anyways, I disagree with some categories but the overall is perfect 🛐 Tokuchi extreme diffs imo
Patrick Jane is a master at understanding and perceiving others' emotions, alongside his exceptional observational skills. This allows him to read subtle nuances in facial expressions, behaviors, and habits, not only of murderers or clients but of everyone around him. Moreover, he accurately comprehends emotions, enabling him to consistently excel in various situations and strategically leverage them to his advantage. He has more and better feats than Tokuchi, considering that in each episode, he showcases his impeccable emotional abilities. I'd say EQP - Patrick Jane EQE - Patrick Jane EQU - Patrick Jane EQM - Tokuchi
@@endur_ His ability to read emotions is so finely tuned that he can practically hear the unspoken words behind every smile or furrowed brow. It's as if he possesses an emotional radar that effortlessly decodes the intricate signals people emit. That's the way i see It's almost undeniable that his eq scales much higher than Tokuchi's
@@kazyzz0482 I can see EQU being close, or maybe even going to PJ. Now dont get me wrong, Jane is one of the strongest in EQP that I have ever seen but from what I saw in One Outs, Tokuchi is just kinda unrealistic. He uses EQP every time he throws a pitch. I find this to be impressive as he is the only person in the history of baseball to decide what pitch he throws the second before he actually throws it. Not only is this very good Fast Thinking, but it also makes the EQP very good, as he is reading his opponent within that very small time window. There are other feats I can mention but thats one of my main reasons for Tokuchi taking it. I may even be able to make arguments for Tokuchi taking EQE but I wont just yet as ill need to analyse a little more
@@endur_ Jane's EQP is also unreal; his observation skills, EQP, and VSI are so high that it's almost like a superpower. Just by looking at a suspect once, Jane can tell if they're guilty or not. The EQE goes to Jane; Bro spent his life engaging people's emotions and convincing them he was communicating with the deceased. As if that wasn't enough, he can literally hypnotize someone. What Tokuchi feat can pair up to Patrick Jane's hipnosis? Tokuchi's goated, his psychoanalysis and EQ are insane but PJ has more and better feats
Is there like a doc about Tokuchi feats explained in-depth (with everything about baseball)? Cause I finished reading One Outs and I’m confused to why everyone scale Tokuchi so high Also, sauce for Tokuchi pic pls🙏
While I read through the manga I wrote down bullet points of his feats, with some having semi decent explanations but I didnt really make it to be a full on doc, just to help organise his feats. It is a massive WIP but if I get the time, I could upgrade it into a proper doc, but we will see. Im surprised you dont scale him high to be honest, I would have thought that most people would agree that hes pretty strong. if you dont mind me asking, are there specific areas you think he is overrated? or just overrated as a whole If you mean the one with the baseball bat to his head, I just searched it up on google. If you cant find it, I can give it to you on discord, mine is endur__
@@endur_ The reason I asked about everything to know about baseball is because I practically know shit about it💀which is why I can only understand like half of his feats, but the part that I do understand I didn't find it very impressive like for example his strategy of beating Johnson aka Ichika victim in travel speed which makes everyone in his team shocked is simply force him to run and exhaust him. And his LR which people seem to scale very high I also didn't find that impressive, his best feat as far as I remember is the listening device feat which I don't think is even on the same level as Takuya or Kiyotaka's best ones. The most important thing that makes me confused tho is that all the people Tokuchi outsmarted are literally all fodders, his strategies of dealing with them are also not that impressive so I don't know how he could perform well against people that is actually good in outsmarting Also never mind, I already found the image
@@tienluong9648 Well I think I can immediately recognise the reasons you dont scale him high. First I would at least learn about the basics of Baseball. Im no expert but I kinda got the hang of the rules by the explanations shown in the manga. You even admitted that you dont understand half of his feats, shouldnt this tell you enough? You are basically scaling 50% of him. Lets not simplify his entire strategy and process to '' he simply got him to run and exhaust himself ''. You can say the same thing about a lot of strategies in fiction. The important thing here is the process behind each of the steps and how he concealed the strategy to stop Shirooka from catching on and countering his strategy. I wont get too much into it otherwise we would be here for a while Another person commented asking if I would be interested in helping them make a Tokuchi analysis doc and maybe your comment is a sign I should do so.
@@endur_ Not really? His whole strategy is literally just that, setting up the game in a way that forces Johnson to run as long as he can to exhaust him. That’s literally how Tokuchi explained it. And I definitely can’t say the same thing about something like the UIE strategy, I can’t just say that Takuya manipulate first and second years to fight each other cause there’s just a lot of different things going on that require Takuya to do vastly different things. And wdym about “concealed the strategy”, the match happened in broad daylight everyone was witnessing it lol, the enemy coach couldn’t catch on simply because he’s a fodder like any single character in OO except Tokuchi Also, no please work on the Kiyo doc before doing anything else I beg you, at this rate this community is gonna die down before Kiyo could receive any recognition he deserves😭🙏
Dí un "like" a tu video, pero hay muchas categorías equivocadas. Patrick entierra a Tokuchi. Manipulación emocional, percepción emocional, comprensión emocional y todo lo relacionado con emociones va para Patrick. 😅 ❤😊
No conoces a Tokuchi probablemente sea el personaje con mayor inteligencia emocional dentro de este mundillo de personajes inteligentes, yo comparto la opinión de que Jane en general me parece mejor pero no infravalores a Tokuchi que en temas de estrategia y emociones es probablemente de lo más top que hay
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PJ very high diffs but magnificient edit
Good video man!
Imo PJ very high-extreme diffs. But it's a close matchup and Tokuchi taking the edge would be fine either. Loved the edit too.
Damn. Amazing edit but PJ very high diff imo
W edit+Underrated🔥🔥🍷
(Patrick wins:Extreme-diff)
I didn't expect that result 🗿
What did you expect? 😅
Smelly Schmell Smells like Scheisse!
Predictions:
FSIQ = PJ - mid diff
EQ = PJ - very high/extreme diff
SQ = PJ - mid diff
Intel = PJ - high diff
Strategy = Tokuchi - high diff
Planning = PJ - mid-high diff
Reasoning = PJ - mid diff
Thinking = PJ - high diff
Manipulation = PJ - high diff
Deception = PJ - high diff
Fixed = Tokuchi - very high diff
Non-fixed = PJ - high diff
RLS (no influence) = PJ - high-very high diff
RLS (influence) = PJ high(-) diff
RLS (from scratch) = PJ - mid(+) diff
Intellect = PJ - mid-high diff
Overall = PJ - high diff
Music = idfk like warriors or som
Watch me be completely wrong
Wow I actually got most things wrong lmao. Was at least expecting to get reasoning correct
@@C3k456 Wrong as always lil bro
PJ actually wins this man but W edit
I'm devastated Endur, you really hurt my feelings...
Anyway, that doesn't change the fact that the video is a real banger, it's good to see that you are increasing your repertoire of characters, I'm eager to see more.
W edit dude.
Im so sorry Deam! 😅
Well at least you enjoyed the edit :)
dont worry anyway, Jane victories will be coming soon...
Amazing edit as always, I have PJ above Tokuchi but close, but in ur system I expected this outcome, W take, and waiting for more edits
Thats a fair opinion
I think in traditional Proven Ability Scaling, Jane probably wins.
Anyway, glad you liked the edit man :)
Amazing edit as always my friend. I haven't read The Mentalist but I have watched and read most of One Outs. Tokuchi is truly a demon 🥶
The Mentalist a show mate, better luck next time though.
Thank you bro, glad you liked it
He really is, gonna be using him a lot more 😁
Schmel is smiling, the biggest smile in her/his life.
Novel Makishima victims 🗿
HOW?
Endur, this take is just insane.
Patrick takes Abstract Reasoning, Deductive Reasoning, Abductive Reasoning, Inductive Reasoning, Logical Reasoning, Emotional Engagement, Emotional Perception, Emotional Understanding, Emotional Manipulation and Overall Planning + Wins V.High diff (-)
Plase answer if you want to debate and show me the feats and why you gave these categories to Tokuchi spetially PLANNING AND EQ, i really want to know your point
(I watched the anime a year ago and read the manga about a mounth ago)
I also agree
Extremely unexpected to say the least, Tokuchi really is a monster.
Phenomenal edit once again from the 🐐
Thanks goat, glad you liked the video :)
very good edit, I love it
Amazing edit as always, idk the characters so no opinion on the match🥂
get some bitches dawg
okay lil guy 🙈
What an amazing edit
Great thing to start off my day.
Common Endur W
that means a lot Bored, thank you man :_)
This is just so good that i can't muster the words out of my mouth fr..
Amazing edit👌
I cant even begin my arguments on how many cats were wrong here,
Besides many points weren't even added but I guess this wasn't full scale so its ok.
PJ wins very high (-) for me as of now this may go lower considering I am analysing PJ once more so I don't know.
W edit tho
I agree
I understand why people think Kaitani's characters are overrated. First, I see Schmel giving the win to Souichi PM, then I see Akiyama somehow losing to Akagi (Ten+Prime) very high-extreme diff by many people which is impossible if you have read the manga. Then I see Aki taking Manipulation and Social Skills against FKN PJ.
W video as always endur
Thanks man :)
The edit is fire as always and i really like your takes BUT this one is an exception.
Imo iq, eq, sq, ovr reasoning, ovr thinking, ovr manipulation, ovr deception and planning goes to Patrick Jane. Takuchi takes strategy and looses high diff.
Please dont hate me endur, i love your videos :(
Tokuchi is a great character, one of the best EQ in animanga but against PJ there's nothing he can do.
Mind Reader vs More Experienced Mind Reader...
Is this S1 Patrick Jane?
If so, maybe it fits the outcome
I gave General Intelligence to Jane
I think EQU is close and I should have highlighted that in the video however I stand with Tokuchi taking EQM and EQP (possibly EQE in the future but ill wait to solidify this take)
Reasoning is fair enough, this was the part I was quite unsure about. However I do think Deductive goes to Tokuchi.
I agree with Manipulation and Deception
I'd like to hear your reasoning for Jane taking Planning?
Dont worry man, im not gonna hate you over a difference in opinion 😅Im just glad you enjoy the videos and take time out of your day to watch them :)
Fire Edit as Always🦖
I'll disagree, but in anyway W Goat🐐
same, this guy has no clue what he is on about lol
🐒🍉
W pfp and thanks man 👍
Which categories would you disagree with? And what would you change the outcome to?
@@endur_ I disagree with EQ and Logical Reasoning and a few other categories. And Patrick very high diff(+). Maybe our opinions are so different because I don't fully understand how your system works. Maybe when I get into the details of the system, I will come to the same opinion. I still think it is one of the best, if not the best system.
@@komal-lamok I think EQU is very close and I should have highlighted that in the video
But I stand with my opinion on Tokuchi taking EQM and EQP. I may also potentially be able to make arguments for Tokuchi taking EQE but this will require some more analysis.
I have a community post describing how my system works if you havent already read it
anyway I appreciate the fact you hold my system in high regard :)
W Edit🎉!! What do you think about liar game? I would enjoy one from Akiyama
😅 you've read liar game?
Unfortunately I havent read Liar Game
@@endur_ I highly recommend it, it is the same author of one outs. I think you will enjoy it. With the better strategist
W edit 🔥, but PJ wins v high-extreme (imo)
PJ very high diff but good edit
Absolutely Goated video and edit 🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐🐐. It's good to see ppl scaling tokuchi above PJ (since I'm one of them). Anyways, I disagree with some categories but the overall is perfect 🛐
Tokuchi extreme diffs imo
Thanks man, glad to hear you enjoyed it :)
Im guessing you disagree with the Reasoning categories? and possibly EQ?
@@endur_Ah yes, some manipulation and deception categories too
W edit!!!!!!!
W edit but now I’m sad 😢
PJ wins this man, i can't with the downplay
MASTERPIECE 😭😭🙏🔥
Thanks goat 🐐😁
tokuchi gaps. W edit bro
Question endur is tokuchi the only new character being featured in your vids or will there be more
He isn't the only new one, there will be more in upcoming videos 👍
Absolute W Edit and song choice even if I personally disagree with the result just a slight tad.
What's the music?
Adelle-Skyfall instrumental
Perfect Edit
W 🐐🔥
Pj takes all reasoning cats and overall eq, winning v.high diff imo
I can understand you take on reasoning, although I disagree
But can I ask why you have overall EQ going to Jane?
Patrick Jane is a master at understanding and perceiving others' emotions, alongside his exceptional observational skills. This allows him to read subtle nuances in facial expressions, behaviors, and habits, not only of murderers or clients but of everyone around him. Moreover, he accurately comprehends emotions, enabling him to consistently excel in various situations and strategically leverage them to his advantage. He has more and better feats than Tokuchi, considering that in each episode, he showcases his impeccable emotional abilities.
I'd say
EQP - Patrick Jane
EQE - Patrick Jane
EQU - Patrick Jane
EQM - Tokuchi
@@endur_
His ability to read emotions is so finely tuned that he can practically hear the unspoken words behind every smile or furrowed brow. It's as if he possesses an emotional radar that effortlessly decodes the intricate signals people emit. That's the way i see
It's almost undeniable that his eq scales much higher than Tokuchi's
@@kazyzz0482 I can see EQU being close, or maybe even going to PJ.
Now dont get me wrong, Jane is one of the strongest in EQP that I have ever seen but from what I saw in One Outs, Tokuchi is just kinda unrealistic.
He uses EQP every time he throws a pitch. I find this to be impressive as he is the only person in the history of baseball to decide what pitch he throws the second before he actually throws it. Not only is this very good Fast Thinking, but it also makes the EQP very good, as he is reading his opponent within that very small time window.
There are other feats I can mention but thats one of my main reasons for Tokuchi taking it.
I may even be able to make arguments for Tokuchi taking EQE but I wont just yet as ill need to analyse a little more
@@endur_
Jane's EQP is also unreal; his observation skills, EQP, and VSI are so high that it's almost like a superpower. Just by looking at a suspect once, Jane can tell if they're guilty or not. The EQE goes to Jane; Bro spent his life engaging people's emotions and convincing them he was communicating with the deceased. As if that wasn't enough, he can literally hypnotize someone.
What Tokuchi feat can pair up to Patrick Jane's hipnosis?
Tokuchi's goated, his psychoanalysis and EQ are insane but PJ has more and better feats
What scaling do you use?
I would imagine if Tokuchi took PJ position, Red John will target Tokuchi and his family.
Tokuchi: let me help you find my family bro 😢
@@schmel7930 omgggg T0kuGOAT is here 😭
Logical rsn to Toua? Interesting👽🙏
Pj win mid -high
FSIQ,FSEQ,FSSQ,FSAQ, MANIPULATION, DECEPTION, PERCEPTION, REASONING, THINKING, TACTICS
Nice
Is there like a doc about Tokuchi feats explained in-depth (with everything about baseball)? Cause I finished reading One Outs and I’m confused to why everyone scale Tokuchi so high
Also, sauce for Tokuchi pic pls🙏
While I read through the manga I wrote down bullet points of his feats, with some having semi decent explanations but I didnt really make it to be a full on doc, just to help organise his feats.
It is a massive WIP but if I get the time, I could upgrade it into a proper doc, but we will see.
Im surprised you dont scale him high to be honest, I would have thought that most people would agree that hes pretty strong. if you dont mind me asking, are there specific areas you think he is overrated? or just overrated as a whole
If you mean the one with the baseball bat to his head, I just searched it up on google. If you cant find it, I can give it to you on discord, mine is endur__
@@endur_ The reason I asked about everything to know about baseball is because I practically know shit about it💀which is why I can only understand like half of his feats, but the part that I do understand I didn't find it very impressive like for example his strategy of beating Johnson aka Ichika victim in travel speed which makes everyone in his team shocked is simply force him to run and exhaust him.
And his LR which people seem to scale very high I also didn't find that impressive, his best feat as far as I remember is the listening device feat which I don't think is even on the same level as Takuya or Kiyotaka's best ones. The most important thing that makes me confused tho is that all the people Tokuchi outsmarted are literally all fodders, his strategies of dealing with them are also not that impressive so I don't know how he could perform well against people that is actually good in outsmarting
Also never mind, I already found the image
@@endur_ you still there?
@@tienluong9648 Well I think I can immediately recognise the reasons you dont scale him high.
First I would at least learn about the basics of Baseball. Im no expert but I kinda got the hang of the rules by the explanations shown in the manga. You even admitted that you dont understand half of his feats, shouldnt this tell you enough? You are basically scaling 50% of him.
Lets not simplify his entire strategy and process to '' he simply got him to run and exhaust himself ''. You can say the same thing about a lot of strategies in fiction. The important thing here is the process behind each of the steps and how he concealed the strategy to stop Shirooka from catching on and countering his strategy.
I wont get too much into it otherwise we would be here for a while
Another person commented asking if I would be interested in helping them make a Tokuchi analysis doc and maybe your comment is a sign I should do so.
@@endur_ Not really? His whole strategy is literally just that, setting up the game in a way that forces Johnson to run as long as he can to exhaust him. That’s literally how Tokuchi explained it. And I definitely can’t say the same thing about something like the UIE strategy, I can’t just say that Takuya manipulate first and second years to fight each other cause there’s just a lot of different things going on that require Takuya to do vastly different things. And wdym about “concealed the strategy”, the match happened in broad daylight everyone was witnessing it lol, the enemy coach couldn’t catch on simply because he’s a fodder like any single character in OO except Tokuchi
Also, no please work on the Kiyo doc before doing anything else I beg you, at this rate this community is gonna die down before Kiyo could receive any recognition he deserves😭🙏
W take bro
Absolutely W edit😘🤌
Dí un "like" a tu video, pero hay muchas categorías equivocadas. Patrick entierra a Tokuchi. Manipulación emocional, percepción emocional, comprensión emocional y todo lo relacionado con emociones va para Patrick. 😅
❤😊
No conoces a Tokuchi probablemente sea el personaje con mayor inteligencia emocional dentro de este mundillo de personajes inteligentes, yo comparto la opinión de que Jane en general me parece mejor pero no infravalores a Tokuchi que en temas de estrategia y emociones es probablemente de lo más top que hay
Al final gente que habla español, no sé sobre Tokuchi pero victimas de Baku igualmente 🗿🙏
W 🗿🍷🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Schmel having the best smile of his life knowing Rasmika and Endur are working on Tokuchi's doc.
W
Wtf PJ wins this
Common W 🗣
W, I agree
Using abc you have tokochi > ayanokoji high(+)
PJ high diffs
Mahito. I'm you.
Pj mid diff
That is defo underrating Tokuchi
Nah PJ high diff Tokuchi
W
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