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This was a good video. I like the text with the film. This was such a critical battle and I would argue that this was in fact the turning point. Though many historians say that after the battles at Verdun, the Somme, Jutland and the eastern Front of 1916 was the turning point. I would add one critical detail. Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg was the greatest proponent of this the Stab in the Back Myth. It started during an official parliamentary investigation regarding his service record during the war on November 18th 1919. He publicly confused the situation of the Last Hundred Days. Despite the fact that he as well as General Erich Ludendorff (as you pointed out) among many others of the High Command called upon the Kaiser for an armistice in October of 1918, he then during the investigation claimed that the army had been stabbed in the back. This contradiction was noticed at the time. It is still amazing that he was elected to the Office of President. You are right that it started with Ludendorff. Germany has both a President and Chancellor. Since the Kaiser abdicated the government replaced the position of the monarchy with the Office of President i.e. head of the country. The other executive is the Chancellor i.e. the head of government. This is like the prime minister. Hindenburg favored a restoration of the monarchy. He allied politically with the nationalists and opposed the main coalition of the Weimar Republic which were the Social Democrats (see the video), the Center Party and the German Democratic Party. None of these parties favored a restoration of the monarchy. He also appointed Hitler to the Office of the Chancellor in May of 1933. Historians believe that the Stab in the Back Myth was so effective that it was the strongest factor for the rise of extreme nationalists i.e. the Nazi Party. The nationalists simply could not come to terms with their own failure in the war.
Agree with Hindenburg propagating the myth. Despite post war myths that he was the last bulwark of the Weimar Republic against Nazism as President, new research had shown he was very much colluding with the Nazis in their rise to power. Ref: WW2TV show Hindenburg, Hitler, Ludendorff: Germanys Generals & the Rise of the Nazis with Alexander Clifford
Great work, Brad. I imagine that there were many people who saw the dangers of the rise of extremism in the interwar period and were powerless to stop it. So glad that the world is completely rational and peaceful in the 21st century and that we have learned the futility of conflict for greed or ideology.
Did you by any chance read any international news articles in the past year and a half? „Completely rational and peaceful….“? In what part of the world is that??
@@Custer0706 I agree with you, it was meant to emphasize how bad things are through gross understatement. I don’t think that there has been one year in this century that either Russia or the United States hasn’t been at war with someone. Not to mention all the other armed conflicts around the globe. As a species, we don’t seem to learn from history. However, just because we continue to make the same or similar mistakes, doesn’t mean history should be ignored.
As a Canadian I'm sure you understand their sentiment. "That stupid ref blew that call, cost us the game." Doesn't matter if you are down 7-1 with 5 minutes left in the third, it was an outside power that sunk you. "We were coming back and that zebra blew that call" And that is what you'll tell your pals over a beer, and what you will tell your kids, so in generations down the line so they ca go "Stinking Refs cost us the cup." Or in the case of the Germans the war.
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This was a good video. I like the text with the film. This was such a critical battle and I would argue that this was in fact the turning point. Though many historians say that after the battles at Verdun, the Somme, Jutland and the eastern Front of 1916 was the turning point.
I would add one critical detail. Field Marshall Paul von Hindenburg was the greatest proponent of this the Stab in the Back Myth. It started during an official parliamentary investigation regarding his service record during the war on November 18th 1919. He publicly confused the situation of the Last Hundred Days. Despite the fact that he as well as General Erich Ludendorff (as you pointed out) among many others of the High Command called upon the Kaiser for an armistice in October of 1918, he then during the investigation claimed that the army had been stabbed in the back. This contradiction was noticed at the time. It is still amazing that he was elected to the Office of President. You are right that it started with Ludendorff.
Germany has both a President and Chancellor. Since the Kaiser abdicated the government replaced the position of the monarchy with the Office of President i.e. head of the country. The other executive is the Chancellor i.e. the head of government. This is like the prime minister. Hindenburg favored a restoration of the monarchy. He allied politically with the nationalists and opposed the main coalition of the Weimar Republic which were the Social Democrats (see the video), the Center Party and the German Democratic Party. None of these parties favored a restoration of the monarchy. He also appointed Hitler to the Office of the Chancellor in May of 1933. Historians believe that the Stab in the Back Myth was so effective that it was the strongest factor for the rise of extreme nationalists i.e. the Nazi Party. The nationalists simply could not come to terms with their own failure in the war.
Agree with Hindenburg propagating the myth. Despite post war myths that he was the last bulwark of the Weimar Republic against Nazism as President, new research had shown he was very much colluding with the Nazis in their rise to power.
Ref: WW2TV show Hindenburg, Hitler, Ludendorff: Germanys Generals & the Rise of the Nazis with Alexander Clifford
Yes indeed Hindenburg was a proponent of the myth. I just wanted to highlight the famous quote and show what impact it had.
Ludendorff sounds like any number of narcissists - "Not MY fault."
Very much so
"Victorious Fleet" Which had very little since Jutland except gather rust and barnicles.
Yeah he said lots weird and nonsensical things
Great video Brad.
Thank you!
Great work, Brad.
I imagine that there were many people who saw the dangers of the rise of extremism in the interwar period and were powerless to stop it.
So glad that the world is completely rational and peaceful in the 21st century and that we have learned the futility of conflict for greed or ideology.
Did you by any chance read any international news articles in the past year and a half? „Completely rational and peaceful….“? In what part of the world is that??
I believe that’s what is called sarcasm
@@Custer0706 I agree with you, it was meant to emphasize how bad things are through gross understatement. I don’t think that there has been one year in this century that either Russia or the United States hasn’t been at war with someone. Not to mention all the other armed conflicts around the globe.
As a species, we don’t seem to learn from history. However, just because we continue to make the same or similar mistakes, doesn’t mean history should be ignored.
@@blacksmith67 Alrighty then. I had doubts for some minutes…..
As a Canadian I'm sure you understand their sentiment. "That stupid ref blew that call, cost us the game." Doesn't matter if you are down 7-1 with 5 minutes left in the third, it was an outside power that sunk you. "We were coming back and that zebra blew that call" And that is what you'll tell your pals over a beer, and what you will tell your kids, so in generations down the line so they ca go "Stinking Refs cost us the cup." Or in the case of the Germans the war.
I don’t really though. This is very different than the analogy you use. This is real world hatred that led to violence and another world war.