This is actually my favorite of the series because I love the relationship between Wolf and Scarlet. I think part of the reason I'm able to look past the insta love is because it is kinda one sided. Scarlet still obviously has feelings for wolf but hasn't fallen into that insta love trope. And I feel like wolf falling into that trope makes more sense because of his past. But I just love them so much together so I really just look past how long they've actually known each other. I think Marissa Meyer said it's actually pronounced ee-ko, which has been hard for me because I pronounced it the same way you did.
jessethereader I think you get a bit more about Scarlet's feelings in Cress and if you haven't read the novella about Wolf yet that gives you a lot more about him and his history.
Sooo glad you were annoyed with Scarlet too. I wanted to reach through the book and slap her when she chewed Cinder at the end about how she should have solved everything by now - when she literally spent the entire book being selfish. Ugh. I'm about 1/3 into Cress and I am really struggling to finish this series at all, curious to see how it goes for you.
You described everything I don't like about Scarlet. The instalove was so cringe worthy and I started yelling at my book when they were all loveydovey. LIKE SCARLET COME ONE HE LITERALLY TRIED TO KILL AND BETRAY YOU YET YOU STILL LOVE HIM. NO.
I mean i wouldn't say that she still 'loved' him... She doesn't even acknowledges this love thing until Winter, and when she discovers the betrayal thing she was pretty pissed haha But i understand your point
On the contrary, I liked scarlet better (although I'm currently reading cress and it's awesome), I kept yearning for a scarlet chapter, I loved the romance throughout the book , and I didn't like Thorne what-so-ever. Although my opinion on Thorne has changed since starting Cress, I disagree with you on mostly all of your main points😂
am I they only one who did like wolf so much even though he lied to scarlet and everything just because he also wanted to help her and save her life and risked his life to save her
I hear a lot of people say, when there had just been the 2 out, that is, that they liked Scarlet better than Cinder. But I'm with you, I totally liked Cinder better! But...just get into Cress...oh yes. Wait for it... :)
im very late, but i actually completely agree with you! i loved cinder (the book and the character) more than scarlet. i was trying to think about the aspects of Scarlets personality and i could only think of her sassiness. her personality wasn't really shown much, which disappointed me. i love thorne! the instalove bothered me too. i looked at the book and i was like "This took place in what... 5 days?!" i missed kai in this book, but the characters were amazing (at least, most of them were).
I actually loved this book the most out of the series. I personally enjoyed the relationship between Wolf and Scarlet. And im just saying as for instalove. Kai and Cinder were kinda similar I mean yeah they didn't just jump right into kissing and stuff but that just works well with their characters I think. I just really liked Scarlet too i don't know though there were some points when I got annoyed with her but she's my favorite out of the three girls so far.
Omg I agree wholeheartedly about everything you said, 100%!!! There is so much love for Scarlet and Wolf in this fandom and I felt like I was the only one who didn't get that... So yay!!!
+captain swan I heard about people gushing for this couple and I read the book yesterday. Why...she knew him for a week...he lied and betrayed her for most of that week... My reaction while reading through the book on the relationship was: huh okay...aw....a bit sketchy but um okay...you seem to trust this dude an awful lot...wait...is it going to...yup...damn you instalove.
I LOVED SCARLET so freakin much and the romance as well, but you kinda opened my eyes to the instalove so thank you?!?! Pleeaase read cress and tell us your thoughts about it!!
I think Scarlet & Wolf's "insta-love" kinda puts off most of the readers, I don't know about everyone but I think someone knows a bit of the "werewolf culture". Anyone reads any werewolf themed books out there? You can totally relate to this, and the explanation for Scarlet & Wolf's "insta-love". It's kind of complicated in this book but I think it has to do with the whole "werewolf culture" concept from books thingy. It only means they're mates and I don't know how this ordeal plays in the book in Marissa's imagination but mostly in werewolf books, instant love is understandable, it is a part of their werewolf community to have the knowledge that they have already destined mates and they will feel the "pull" instantly. Like literally just staring into their eyes and BAM! they're in love. That sounds kind of put-off but once you get accustomed to this general idea of "mates" it kinda tugs your heart. Plus mates are like the short term of soulmates, if you hadn't noticed. But as I said, I don't know how this ordeal plays in Marissa Meyer's imagination, it's just the general idea of werewolf mates. PLEASE READ WEREWOLF-THEMED BOOKS, you'll understand! It's not like the "Twilight" concept of werewolves tbh, it's way more than that and it's interesting to know their "world" (As if they're real) AND PLUS! (In the "werewolf culture" thingy) THE WOLVES HAVE THEIR GODDESS WHICH THEY CALL "MOON GODDESS" in which they believe the one who created them. Additional info, they call their Alpha Female, "Luna". (In which I'm mind-blown, because Scarlet has Luna blood running through her veins. AND LEVANA CREATED THESE MUTANTS/WEREWOLVES AND SHE'S QUEEN OF LUNA) SO THIS BOOK JUST COMPLETELY SHATTERED MY MIND.
+Jairah Inocence That's so interesting! I didn't totally mind the "insta-love" in Scarlet and I really liked Scarlet as a character. I think I'm the only one :(
I actually favoured the scarlet chapters to the cinder chapters, i got sort of annoyed by the cinder chapters sometimes. But i definatley loved the book i liked it more than the first book.
I'm loving your reviews! I picked up Scarlett without reading Cinder because I didn't know that it was the second book and although Cinder's story was quite lost on me I managed to pick up on most of her story through Scarlett which I thought was great and Cinder's story intrigued me way more than Scarlett's. Amen to the cringe-worthy instalove thing. Granted, in the end i didn't enjoy Scarlett much so I became really sceptical about wanting to continue on with the series, but after hearing your opinions maybe I should..?
I actually didn't mind the insta love because, Wolf is...well, a wolf (if I make any sense😂). What I'm trying to say is that when a wolf finds a mate, the mating bond happens immediately. I kind of figured that that was what Meyer was aiming for.
Scarlet is my favorite character. I love her because she's bold but also stubborn. She's not afraid to say what she's thinking. And here's to explain why she was so mad at Cinder: Scarlet loved her grandmother a lot because her grandmother was the person she really connected with and was able to be herself with. She knew her grandmother had died trying to protect Cinder's secrets from the lunars. At this point, Scarlet was not only in grieving but she was also correct in her suspicions as Cinder spent most of this book trying to learn about herself instead of actually acting and going to Africa like Dr. Erland told her to. As I said Scarlet is a very straightforward person and Cinder needed to be called out. Scarlet may have even sensed that Cinder was unwilling to accept herself as Princess Selene, and calling her out was very important. I look up to Scarlet because she is bold and stands up for her beliefs. To people saying she's a weak, underdeveloped character, I say she's the opposite. She is the strongest character in the series.
I'm a sucker for werewolf stories so when the insta-love trope played out, my heart felt all warm and fuzzy inside. I just love werewolf romance (NOT twilight) and I guess this is part of the reason why this, Scarlet, is my favorite book of the series (mind you I've only read Cinder and Scarlet so far)
I definitely agree with you on your thoughts on this book. I preferred Cinder as well, although Scarlet was great too! And can we just have a moment of appreciation for Thorne? He's DEFINITELY a new favourite character. And I know you've heard this a million times, but CRESS. IT GIVES ALL THE FEELS. Just wait till you read it. Winter can't come fast enough.
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that about the Sailor Moon fanfiction. I can totally see it now! I agree SO MUCH with your thoughts on Scarlet not being as great as Cinder, and the characterization and insta love problems as well. I've seen so many people say they loved this book more than the first, but I just don't see it. All 3 of the books have been 5 star reads for me, but this one was on the lower end of the 5 star spectrum, lol.
I had the same issues with Scarlet. It was my love of Cinder and the writing in general that saved it for me. I enjoyed Cress so much more...and I am dying for Winter
Omg, this was my exact review of Scarlet! And we both started it and finished it around the same time! I've just started Cress, and already I'm liking Cress(the character) more than Scarlet! I hope you enjoy Cress and I'm looking forward to see your review of Cress! :D
I love Thorne so much. I would agree that Scarlet wasn't quite as good as Cinder, but Cress is absolutely amazing :) The relationship between Scarlet and Wolf is kind of weird... I love them, but it did develop a little fast, yeah. You get to see so much of Thorne in Cress. It's wonderful. Personally, I never enjoy the Kai parts so much... he seems a bit meh to me. But I still love this book. I love the whole series so much.
I love both Cinder and Scarlet the same amount because the each bring different elements to the story. I’m also a huge fan of insta love and thought that last scene between Scarlet and Wolf was adorable! I can’t wait till Cinder and Kai reunite!
Scarlet actually was the first book I read of The Lunar Chronicles, and I loved it soooo much! Everything was so intense! I think Scarlet was such an amazing character, and so was Thorne! I love all of them equally and Wolf is just the best, but my god do I love Thorne so much 7w7 And WOLFLET I LOVE IT I SHIPPED THEM SINCE THEY MET Hmm me and Jesse have very different opinions about the book XD The best thing about Thorne is that he is actually more complex than just being the "dumb" character he's actually really emotional. Kaider is the bessssssht THEY ARE SO CUTE AAAAAAAAK Scarlet was the birthplace of the Rampion Crew!!!
Didn't see a talk about Cress or Fairest ? (: You have to read them they're both so good and Fairest is just amazing on how she explains Levana's Story ! I can't wait for Winter to come out this year!!
i loved scarlet more than cinder :(, but yeah I would've liked her and Wolf's relationship took a while to grow. Cinder in this book was quite annoying
I must agree with you as far as the romance plot. It was progressing nicely until....the train. My theory however, is that Wolf's hybrid genes may contribute to the instalove. If you know how wolf packs work, beyond the hybrids from Scarlet, you realize that the way in which wolves go about choosing their mates, especially in the alpha pair, is very much instalove. Or in their case instawedlock. Not that that's an excuse... Also, I was wondering if you'd read Cress yet. The girl I usually discuss books with thinks Cinder is creepy and weird, so I think it would be interesting to hear your opinion.
After watching this, you will NOT be dissapointed in Cress! Ohmagosh it's so GOOD!!! I can't wait for you to do a reveiw on it! XD JUST SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!! Woah lots of caps
YESSS. I know, I just loved it when it would switch back to Cinder's perspective because she's just the best. Her relationship with Kai gives me all the feels. You must read Cress now!!!
I agree I totally loved the first book more. It had more detailed and focused more on the issue. I adore Cinder and I'm pretty sure there is potential for Scarlet can't wait for Cress! btw this is my first time on this channel, and I already love it.
I really love the series, but i still like the story of scarlet the most from cinder and scarlett. I love the personality from cinder more, but i like scarlet (the book, not the personality) more becaus of wolf. He's my favorite character of all the books
Hey @jessethereader! You should check out the short stories Marissa Meyers has about the Lunar chronicles. There's one on Cinder's background, Wolf's background and a mini Thorne story. As well as one in the lunar universe, but not pertaining to the actual story lines. They should be on Marisa's website. They really flesh out the universe and give some background that might not be in the books. The one about Wolf REALLLLY shed some light on why he acts the way he does and exactly how they genetically modified him and his pack. Also I'm happy you're finally getting into this series and that you love it so much!
Did you see the cover reveal for Winter today? omg it's gorgeous! I def. agree with the things you said in this video Scarlet was my least favorite book in the series b/c her and Wolf just annoyed me lol but you will get more Thorne and more Iko in Cress so it should be a good time!
i know im late to this party but i just finished reading this book and wanted to add my 2 cents. i excused the insta-love, in light of the extreme circumstances which scarlet and wolf were in. i could understand the surge of adrenaline and the forming a bond instantly. also *spoiler* wolf is part animal so him deciding quickly that scarlet is the one wouldn't be out of character for him. i hope scarlet and cinder bond in the next book, big fan of team sisterhood/brotherhood.
I just finished reading scarlet too and I am so excited for cress and i also didn't think scarlet and wolf love being so fast because of everything that happened during their journey
I've been waiting for this video! Yay! I totally on your side, I liked Cinder more than Scarlet. The issue of instalove bugged me too. My favorite part from Scarlet is the same like you.. all the Cinder chapters! She's just awesome! Now I can't wait for you to read Cress! The best book from the series so far! And also Fairest.. you got to know Levana's back story..
my favorite of the three so far is cress, it was freaking amazing! and i agree with what you said about scarlet! my favorite character is captain thorne!!
I just finished Scarlet and I completely agree with everything you said! When I got to the "you'll always be the only one" line I think my mouth literally dropped open, it was so ridiculous. Overall I was able to get through this book much faster than Cinder because the world was already built and everything was so action based. I loved the different perspectives we got (I need more Kai chapters!!!!) and they really helped the plot move along really quickly for me. One major downside is that I feel like Scarlet's character wasn't developed at all and this book is supposed to be about her. She was so wrapped up in her grandmother that I didn't feel like her true personality was ever really explored.
I enjoyed Scarlet. it was fun to read. But the loveydovey thing was actually cute. But it was normal for wolf, having the instincts of a wolf, he does kind of need an "alpha female" to watch. Thorne kind of drove me crazy. He was kind of flirting at the wrong time. that was unsettling. But having Cinder come back with having Thorne, I couldn't help but laugh a few times. I think she and Thorne worked well together, but I still think Cinder and Kai are still # 1, even if Kai was a bit of a jerk at the ball and a bit in the beginning of the book. honestly, now I can't wait to read Cress.
k, i 100% agree with you on the instalove thing that happened between Wolf and Scarlet. Is it like a wolf thing? Like freaking Jacob from Twilight imprinted on a dang fetus, and then Wolf goes and falls in love with Scarlet in the matter of a week... seriously is it a wolf thing like does legend hold that this instalove thing is inevitable? Believe me, man, if you couldn't stand the instalove in this book, good luck in Cress. K BUT SEE MY PROBLEM WAS NOT WOLF OR SCARLET OR ANY OF THAT as a matter of fact i preferred that over Kai. Kai infuriates me! AND in Cress. Like he doesn't have any backbone, and he completely lets everyone else TELL HIM WHAT TO THINK AND HOW HE THINKS! It's like he doesn't have the free will to form is own opinions on Cinder, and it really really bugged me throughout this entire book as well as Cress. Like I can't get over how much I cannot stand Kai. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it very strongly.
IT TOTALLY MUST BE A WOLF THING HAHA! & Oh I completely understand your frustration with Kai. It's clear he's not suited to be in the position of power that he's in. He doesn't think things through very well! I still like his character though!
jessethereader yeah he's pretty rad, i love thorne though. he gets SO much better in Cress. I think you'll really like it, it's my favourite in the series. Also there's sooooooo many parallels to Cress and the original Rapunzel. It was very exciting
I also much preferred Cinder. Scarlett was good but it took me ages to read it as I just wasn't as involved. Cress is by far the best yet! My order of preference of the books is: Cress, Cinder, Scarlett.
When I read Cinder, I instantly fell in love with the series. At first I kept figuring out parts of the book to the original tale, which made me love this book series a lot more. As I went straight into Scarlet, I was mostly trying to find the links to the original story and how Marissa Meyer interpreted in the books. I agree with you that I prefer Cinder than Scarlet but when I read Cress, I loved that book even more. Great video, I agree with your points of Scarlet and I wished there was more Cinder chapters in Scarlet but I did enjoy reading the book xx
I definitely agree with the insta-love because they just met and suddenly they're in love? I don't think so. I liked this books, but I feel like I read it a while ago. I'm planning on reading Cress next though!
I really liked Scarlet, but I totally understood what you meant when you said that all she focused on was her grandmother. And yes, that is important, but it also left a lot of questions hanging.
I just finished this last night and MY GOD I LOVED THE RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THEM AND IN THE END JUST RUINED IT ALL. DAMN. I WAS SO MAD. But other than that it was awesome.
I think I also liked Cinder's chapters better than Scarlet's chapters. But it was still fun to see how the plot evolves and the introductions of new characters. I could really see Sailor Moon inspiration in third book, Cress, so watch out for that. I love how Marissa Meyer switches between the different viewpoints, it feels like I am watching a TV show :)
Hey u know what...when i first started reading scarlet even i wasn't a big fan of wolflet but till the end i started liking them ....and once u read cress and winter then OH MY GOD...how can anyone not like their love story... its just so good...infact i love all the couples in the book.
Same opinions. But to be Scarlet seemed more like the selfish one because she was so willing to risk her life and Wolf's (aka Ze'ev), all because she wanted to save her grand-mere. If she wanted you to rescue her and know about the whole the Lunar drama she would have to you, Scar, like come on. Stubborn, Crass(Insensitive towards wolf's drama) , Aggressive, Relentless, Loud, Endearing, Lonely and Taut, are some of my thoughts to describe SCARLET.
I get that it seems like Scarlet is underdeveloped, but I appreciate her character. She's a simple French woman who loved her simple wholesome life. Her world is turned upside-down in a very short amount of time. She loses her rural way of life and SPOILER the person she loved most in the world, her grandmere. Wolf is the only person she can rely on because hes the only person asking her to. So of course she chooses to let herself love him and trust him, because when all is said and done, wolf is all she has right now.
I find it funny that I believe that opposite to be true. I didn't like Cinder in the first book and I still didn't like reading her chapters in the second book. Everyone always talks about how she is so strong and unique and I didn't really feel that way. I want to pick up Cress but it just isn't at the top of my TBR right now. And even though it was a little insta lovey I liked their relationship way more than Kai and Cinder. Neither of their characters made a big enough impression on me to have me ship them.
I feel the same. I loved Cinder and Scarlet was good but she's no Cinder. Maybe I was almost jealous, like I didn't like that Cinder was sharing the spotlight. But wait for Cress! I love her. And Thorn. LOVE LOVE LOVE. Enjoy reading!
YOU'RE SO RIGHT ABOUT THE SAILOR MOON FEELS! We also has the same feel about Scarlet's character. I think she's quite impulsive and always blame someone for her misfortune. It's annoying. Specially the scene in the end in which she's accusing Cinder. I was like, WTH Scarlet, after she saved your neck from those lunars! =__= Scarlet and Wolf's mushy scene in the spaceship and Iko's been hearing their conversation is so hilarious XD You better read Cress! The storyline in that book is freakin awesome. Though Cinder is still my favorite character among the three XD
When Cinder uses her bioelectricity in this book it actually made me so uncomfortable. Cinder is just such a good person and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable when she uses it, especially on Thorne when they first meet. I guess Marissa Meyer is just a really good writer because she is good at making me be actually afraid of Lunar powers.
I completely agree with what you thought about Scarlet! It's my least favorite book in the series. I'm so glad you're loving this series! I think you'll really like Cress! It's my favorite.
I AGREE WITH YOU 1000%! The Feels and everything. I was searching for something more for Scarlet and Wolf (I just love Little Red retellings) But I do agree with TeaLeavesAndBookBindings now that I think about it. Wolf was a bit insta love....because he is a wolf hybrid and they have mates and such. I felt like Scarlet was starting to get to know Wolf and start a relationship with him which made me want more. BUT I LOVE ALL CINDER PARTS. I MEAN SHE IS MY FAVE AND WE GOT IKO BACK!!!! 🙌 I didn't know Marissa Meyer wrote Sailor Moon fanfic?!
I like Wolf, because his feelings are just so intense so quickly in a believable way to me I guess.(thanks Lunar researchers) But Scarlet. You said what I thought, outside of desperation for her grand-mere and growing feelings for Wolf she was meh for me. She definitely had very high moments for me, but I kind of feel like she's a more useful Daphne to Cinder's Velma...lol BUT CINDER I LOVE HER AND HER GROWTH OMG. And Thorne is perf. I adore him. I'm looking forward to your thoughts on Cress and Fairest. :)
I didn't realize she used to write sailor moon fan fic!!! That makes so much sense! That's actually the main reason why I fell in love with this series I think. I actually don't really like Cinder or Kai that much. I'm pretty meh about them, so I think that's why I loved this book so much more! I loved Scarlet and especially Wolf. I think I'm very opposite of most people in this but that's ok. I didn't like Thorne at first, I kind of thought he was annoying, but I like him a lot more in Cress :)
It's been awhile since I finished Scarlet, but watching this makes me want to read Cress!!! (I haven't read Cress yet) I actually liked Scarlet and Will, differently than Cinder and Thorn (he's hilarious) but the instalove thing was a little much for me.
I will say that I as well didn't like Scarlet or Wolf as characters nearly as much as I love Cinder,Kai,Thorne,Iko, and Cress (like um all the other main characters.) but the reason why I loved Scarlet as a book more was because of the moments that we did get from Cinder and the way that the plot developed was just SO FRIKIN AWESOME and I just love how everything came together at the end and how Cinder started learning how to control her powers and that scene right before they get into the ship when she controls that one guy (i think. Haven't read the book in a while.) was just genius. But Cress is definitely my favorite installment in the series. I think you'll like that one better. I love Thorne so much. And Cress is just so adorable.
That's funny because I'm thinking all the opposite. I found Cinder very annoying with her superpowers. I was like : YOU CAN CONTROL THE PEOPLE. JUST DO IT ! But I loved Scarlet and Wolf, they are amazing and I love their romance. Finally, Thorne (is it his name, I'm not sure), is special. I thought he was just an extra character with a vehicle. And that's why is important, his vehicle.... That's really funny to see the different opinions ! Great video !
This is actually my favorite of the series because I love the relationship between Wolf and Scarlet. I think part of the reason I'm able to look past the insta love is because it is kinda one sided. Scarlet still obviously has feelings for wolf but hasn't fallen into that insta love trope. And I feel like wolf falling into that trope makes more sense because of his past. But I just love them so much together so I really just look past how long they've actually known each other. I think Marissa Meyer said it's actually pronounced ee-ko, which has been hard for me because I pronounced it the same way you did.
Maybe after I read Cress I'll be able to understand their relationship more?
jessethereader I think you get a bit more about Scarlet's feelings in Cress and if you haven't read the novella about Wolf yet that gives you a lot more about him and his history.
I kinda put the inista love part of Wolf down to him being 'part wolf' like because she is the alpha female to him
I know that you'll love Cress after watching this. It incorporates all the good things about Cinder and Scarlet
yay!
Sooo glad you were annoyed with Scarlet too. I wanted to reach through the book and slap her when she chewed Cinder at the end about how she should have solved everything by now - when she literally spent the entire book being selfish. Ugh. I'm about 1/3 into Cress and I am really struggling to finish this series at all, curious to see how it goes for you.
You described everything I don't like about Scarlet. The instalove was so cringe worthy and I started yelling at my book when they were all loveydovey.
LIKE SCARLET COME ONE HE LITERALLY TRIED TO KILL AND BETRAY YOU YET YOU STILL LOVE HIM. NO.
LOLOL RIGHT THOUGH?
I think you'll really like Cress, theres not much annoying cringe stuff, its more bad ass and some really awesome romance.
Tess Bisley I argree too Cress is amazing. But I mostly liked the Cinder chapters in Scarlet. =D
I mean i wouldn't say that she still 'loved' him... She doesn't even acknowledges this love thing until Winter, and when she discovers the betrayal thing she was pretty pissed haha But i understand your point
i agree with all your thoughts !! scarlet and the beast are my two least fav characters XD CANT WAIT FOR YOU TO READ CRESS IT'S THE BEST =D
Cress is my favorite of the series so far. We got the most Thorne in that one.
On the contrary, I liked scarlet better (although I'm currently reading cress and it's awesome), I kept yearning for a scarlet chapter, I loved the romance throughout the book , and I didn't like Thorne what-so-ever. Although my opinion on Thorne has changed since starting Cress, I disagree with you on mostly all of your main points😂
am I they only one who did like wolf so much even though he lied to scarlet and everything just because he also wanted to help her and save her life and risked his life to save her
Scarlet: wow I like wolf and scarlet but you know meh.
Cress: NOOOOO SCARLET AND WOLF WHYYYY
SAME
My newest song is based on Cinder!
Beth!
what's it called???
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I hear a lot of people say, when there had just been the 2 out, that is, that they liked Scarlet better than Cinder. But I'm with you, I totally liked Cinder better! But...just get into Cress...oh yes. Wait for it... :)
Ha! I keep hearing amazing things about Cress! So excited to read it.
im very late, but i actually completely agree with you! i loved cinder (the book and the character) more than scarlet. i was trying to think about the aspects of Scarlets personality and i could only think of her sassiness. her personality wasn't really shown much, which disappointed me. i love thorne! the instalove bothered me too. i looked at the book and i was like "This took place in what... 5 days?!" i missed kai in this book, but the characters were amazing (at least, most of them were).
I actually loved this book the most out of the series. I personally enjoyed the relationship between Wolf and Scarlet. And im just saying as for instalove. Kai and Cinder were kinda similar I mean yeah they didn't just jump right into kissing and stuff but that just works well with their characters I think. I just really liked Scarlet too i don't know though there were some points when I got annoyed with her but she's my favorite out of the three girls so far.
The caps lock in the captions gives me life.
hahaha! I've realized that I throw caps lock on when I really want to get a point across! xD
Wolf trying to open a can of tomatoes was my favorite part XD
Omg I agree wholeheartedly about everything you said, 100%!!! There is so much love for Scarlet and Wolf in this fandom and I felt like I was the only one who didn't get that... So yay!!!
+captain swan I heard about people gushing for this couple and I read the book yesterday. Why...she knew him for a week...he lied and betrayed her for most of that week...
My reaction while reading through the book on the relationship was: huh okay...aw....a bit sketchy but um okay...you seem to trust this dude an awful lot...wait...is it going to...yup...damn you instalove.
I LOVED SCARLET so freakin much and the romance as well, but you kinda opened my eyes to the instalove so thank you?!?! Pleeaase read cress and tell us your thoughts about it!!
I think Scarlet & Wolf's "insta-love" kinda puts off most of the readers, I don't know about everyone but I think someone knows a bit of the "werewolf culture". Anyone reads any werewolf themed books out there? You can totally relate to this, and the explanation for Scarlet & Wolf's "insta-love".
It's kind of complicated in this book but I think it has to do with the whole "werewolf culture" concept from books thingy. It only means they're mates and I don't know how this ordeal plays in the book in Marissa's imagination but mostly in werewolf books, instant love is understandable, it is a part of their werewolf community to have the knowledge that they have already destined mates and they will feel the "pull" instantly. Like literally just staring into their eyes and BAM! they're in love. That sounds kind of put-off but once you get accustomed to this general idea of "mates" it kinda tugs your heart. Plus mates are like the short term of soulmates, if you hadn't noticed. But as I said, I don't know how this ordeal plays in Marissa Meyer's imagination, it's just the general idea of werewolf mates. PLEASE READ WEREWOLF-THEMED BOOKS, you'll understand! It's not like the "Twilight" concept of werewolves tbh, it's way more than that and it's interesting to know their "world" (As if they're real)
AND PLUS! (In the "werewolf culture" thingy) THE WOLVES HAVE THEIR GODDESS WHICH THEY CALL "MOON GODDESS" in which they believe the one who created them. Additional info, they call their Alpha Female, "Luna". (In which I'm mind-blown, because Scarlet has Luna blood running through her veins. AND LEVANA CREATED THESE MUTANTS/WEREWOLVES AND SHE'S QUEEN OF LUNA) SO THIS BOOK JUST COMPLETELY SHATTERED MY MIND.
+Jairah Inocence That's so interesting! I didn't totally mind the "insta-love" in Scarlet and I really liked Scarlet as a character. I think I'm the only one :(
ikr? Scarlet's like the perfect flawful character in my opinion, she presents a realistic character. You're not the only one, I like Scarlet too :)
I liked Scarlet and was excited for her path to cross with Cinder's. She doesn't have the same edginess that Cinder does, but she is likable.
You said everything so beautifully!
I actually favoured the scarlet chapters to the cinder chapters, i got sort of annoyed by the cinder chapters sometimes. But i definatley loved the book i liked it more than the first book.
Honestly, I loved Scarlet, and also Cinder.
I'm loving your reviews! I picked up Scarlett without reading Cinder because I didn't know that it was the second book and although Cinder's story was quite lost on me I managed to pick up on most of her story through Scarlett which I thought was great and Cinder's story intrigued me way more than Scarlett's. Amen to the cringe-worthy instalove thing. Granted, in the end i didn't enjoy Scarlett much so I became really sceptical about wanting to continue on with the series, but after hearing your opinions maybe I should..?
Prepare yourself for cress, you'll love it c: my absolute favorite so far!
I LOVE THIS SERIES. I CAN'T WAIT FOR WINTER TO COME OUT IN NOVEMBER.
I actually didn't mind the insta love because, Wolf is...well, a wolf (if I make any sense😂). What I'm trying to say is that when a wolf finds a mate, the mating bond happens immediately. I kind of figured that that was what Meyer was aiming for.
Scarlet is my favorite character. I love her because she's bold but also stubborn. She's not afraid to say what she's thinking. And here's to explain why she was so mad at Cinder: Scarlet loved her grandmother a lot because her grandmother was the person she really connected with and was able to be herself with. She knew her grandmother had died trying to protect Cinder's secrets from the lunars. At this point, Scarlet was not only in grieving but she was also correct in her suspicions as Cinder spent most of this book trying to learn about herself instead of actually acting and going to Africa like Dr. Erland told her to. As I said Scarlet is a very straightforward person and Cinder needed to be called out. Scarlet may have even sensed that Cinder was unwilling to accept herself as Princess Selene, and calling her out was very important. I look up to Scarlet because she is bold and stands up for her beliefs. To people saying she's a weak, underdeveloped character, I say she's the opposite. She is the strongest character in the series.
I'm a sucker for werewolf stories so when the insta-love trope played out, my heart felt all warm and fuzzy inside. I just love werewolf romance (NOT twilight) and I guess this is part of the reason why this, Scarlet, is my favorite book of the series (mind you I've only read Cinder and Scarlet so far)
Am I really the only one who liked Scarlet, as a character, more than Cinder? ;(
Me tooo
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yasss amd i ship her with wolf a lot!
i like them both equally lol
I definitely agree with you on your thoughts on this book. I preferred Cinder as well, although Scarlet was great too! And can we just have a moment of appreciation for Thorne? He's DEFINITELY a new favourite character. And I know you've heard this a million times, but CRESS. IT GIVES ALL THE FEELS. Just wait till you read it. Winter can't come fast enough.
And YAY. I'm soooo glad Iko is back!!!
Oh my gosh, I didn't know that about the Sailor Moon fanfiction. I can totally see it now! I agree SO MUCH with your thoughts on Scarlet not being as great as Cinder, and the characterization and insta love problems as well. I've seen so many people say they loved this book more than the first, but I just don't see it. All 3 of the books have been 5 star reads for me, but this one was on the lower end of the 5 star spectrum, lol.
I agree! Everyone loves the second book, but Cinder is my favorite, it's just amazing!
JESSE YOU ARE GOING TO LOVE CRESS I SWEAR!!!!!
HI Jesse I absolutely looooove your videos, and I'm so glad you finally read the lunar chronicles!!!:)
thank you!! loving them. :)
You're welcome!!
I had the same issues with Scarlet. It was my love of Cinder and the writing in general that saved it for me. I enjoyed Cress so much more...and I am dying for Winter
Omg, this was my exact review of Scarlet! And we both started it and finished it around the same time! I've just started Cress, and already I'm liking Cress(the character) more than Scarlet! I hope you enjoy Cress and I'm looking forward to see your review of Cress! :D
I felt the exact same way Jesse - that's one of the reasons cress is so great - scarlet isn't in it very often...
Literally all my feelings and emotions
I love Thorne so much.
I would agree that Scarlet wasn't quite as good as Cinder, but Cress is absolutely amazing :)
The relationship between Scarlet and Wolf is kind of weird... I love them, but it did develop a little fast, yeah.
You get to see so much of Thorne in Cress. It's wonderful.
Personally, I never enjoy the Kai parts so much... he seems a bit meh to me.
But I still love this book. I love the whole series so much.
I love both Cinder and Scarlet the same amount because the each bring different elements to the story. I’m also a huge fan of insta love and thought that last scene between Scarlet and Wolf was adorable! I can’t wait till Cinder and Kai reunite!
This video was perfectly timed for me; just finished re-reading Scarlet ! :) love hearing your opinions and great video !
Scarlet actually was the first book I read of The Lunar Chronicles, and I loved it soooo much! Everything was so intense!
I think Scarlet was such an amazing character, and so was Thorne! I love all of them equally and Wolf is just the best, but my god do I love Thorne so much 7w7
And WOLFLET I LOVE IT I SHIPPED THEM SINCE THEY MET
Hmm me and Jesse have very different opinions about the book XD
The best thing about Thorne is that he is actually more complex than just being the "dumb" character he's actually really emotional.
Kaider is the bessssssht THEY ARE SO CUTE AAAAAAAAK
Scarlet was the birthplace of the Rampion Crew!!!
Didn't see a talk about Cress or Fairest ? (:
You have to read them they're both so good and Fairest is just amazing on how she explains Levana's Story ! I can't wait for Winter to come out this year!!
This review was AWESOME! I was just laughing the whole time Jesse! Your hilarious. Totally agree with this review!
i loved scarlet more than cinder :(, but yeah I would've liked her and Wolf's relationship took a while to grow. Cinder in this book was quite annoying
Oh I loved Cinder more then Scarlet, characters and books.
I must agree with you as far as the romance plot. It was progressing nicely until....the train. My theory however, is that Wolf's hybrid genes may contribute to the instalove. If you know how wolf packs work, beyond the hybrids from Scarlet, you realize that the way in which wolves go about choosing their mates, especially in the alpha pair, is very much instalove. Or in their case instawedlock. Not that that's an excuse...
Also, I was wondering if you'd read Cress yet. The girl I usually discuss books with thinks Cinder is creepy and weird, so I think it would be interesting to hear your opinion.
After watching this, you will NOT be dissapointed in Cress! Ohmagosh it's so GOOD!!! I can't wait for you to do a reveiw on it! XD JUST SO EXCITED RIGHT NOW!! Woah lots of caps
YESSS. I know, I just loved it when it would switch back to Cinder's perspective because she's just the best. Her relationship with Kai gives me all the feels. You must read Cress now!!!
I agree I totally loved the first book more. It had more detailed and focused more on the issue. I adore Cinder and I'm pretty sure there is potential for Scarlet can't wait for Cress!
btw this is my first time on this channel, and I already love it.
I really love the series, but i still like the story of scarlet the most from cinder and scarlett. I love the personality from cinder more, but i like scarlet (the book, not the personality) more becaus of wolf. He's my favorite character of all the books
Hey @jessethereader! You should check out the short stories Marissa Meyers has about the Lunar chronicles. There's one on Cinder's background, Wolf's background and a mini Thorne story. As well as one in the lunar universe, but not pertaining to the actual story lines. They should be on Marisa's website. They really flesh out the universe and give some background that might not be in the books. The one about Wolf REALLLLY shed some light on why he acts the way he does and exactly how they genetically modified him and his pack. Also I'm happy you're finally getting into this series and that you love it so much!
Did you see the cover reveal for Winter today? omg it's gorgeous! I def. agree with the things you said in this video Scarlet was my least favorite book in the series b/c her and Wolf just annoyed me lol but you will get more Thorne and more Iko in Cress so it should be a good time!
if you like Iko as a ship, you're gonna lose it over her in Cress
i know im late to this party but i just finished reading this book and wanted to add my 2 cents.
i excused the insta-love, in light of the extreme circumstances which scarlet and wolf were in. i could understand the surge of adrenaline and the forming a bond instantly. also *spoiler* wolf is part animal so him deciding quickly that scarlet is the one wouldn't be out of character for him. i hope scarlet and cinder bond in the next book, big fan of team sisterhood/brotherhood.
I just finished reading scarlet too and I am so excited for cress and i also didn't think scarlet and wolf love being so fast because of everything that happened during their journey
Adri Sot im loving this series! but im glad i learned of it after all the books were out, waiting would have been agony.
I've been waiting for this video! Yay!
I totally on your side, I liked Cinder more than Scarlet. The issue of instalove bugged me too.
My favorite part from Scarlet is the same like you.. all the Cinder chapters! She's just awesome!
Now I can't wait for you to read Cress! The best book from the series so far!
And also Fairest.. you got to know Levana's back story..
my favorite of the three so far is cress, it was freaking amazing! and i agree with what you said about scarlet! my favorite character is captain thorne!!
UGH!! I really wanna read cinder, but I don't have any money. Hopefully I'll get it soon btw love you videos Jesse!
Having fun isn't hard....when you have a library card 😎
Awesomesauce24 Lol😂
I can't wait for you to read Cress! It is wayyyyy better than the previous books.
I just finished Scarlet and I completely agree with everything you said! When I got to the "you'll always be the only one" line I think my mouth literally dropped open, it was so ridiculous. Overall I was able to get through this book much faster than Cinder because the world was already built and everything was so action based. I loved the different perspectives we got (I need more Kai chapters!!!!) and they really helped the plot move along really quickly for me. One major downside is that I feel like Scarlet's character wasn't developed at all and this book is supposed to be about her. She was so wrapped up in her grandmother that I didn't feel like her true personality was ever really explored.
I just finished scarlet.
I really enjoyed it.
I’ve just started cress and this series is so good.
I completely agree with you about this book. Don't give up, though. Cress was my favorite of the three. :)
I love this video❤️❤️❤️ and scarlet😍❤️
Re-reading this series. I want to re-live it :)
I enjoyed Scarlet. it was fun to read. But the loveydovey thing was actually cute. But it was normal for wolf, having the instincts of a wolf, he does kind of need an "alpha female" to watch. Thorne kind of drove me crazy. He was kind of flirting at the wrong time. that was unsettling. But having Cinder come back with having Thorne, I couldn't help but laugh a few times. I think she and Thorne worked well together, but I still think Cinder and Kai are still # 1, even if Kai was a bit of a jerk at the ball and a bit in the beginning of the book.
honestly, now I can't wait to read Cress.
k, i 100% agree with you on the instalove thing that happened between Wolf and Scarlet. Is it like a wolf thing? Like freaking Jacob from Twilight imprinted on a dang fetus, and then Wolf goes and falls in love with Scarlet in the matter of a week... seriously is it a wolf thing like does legend hold that this instalove thing is inevitable? Believe me, man, if you couldn't stand the instalove in this book, good luck in Cress.
K BUT SEE MY PROBLEM WAS NOT WOLF OR SCARLET OR ANY OF THAT as a matter of fact i preferred that over Kai. Kai infuriates me! AND in Cress. Like he doesn't have any backbone, and he completely lets everyone else TELL HIM WHAT TO THINK AND HOW HE THINKS! It's like he doesn't have the free will to form is own opinions on Cinder, and it really really bugged me throughout this entire book as well as Cress. Like I can't get over how much I cannot stand Kai. Maybe this is an unpopular opinion but I feel it very strongly.
IT TOTALLY MUST BE A WOLF THING HAHA!
& Oh I completely understand your frustration with Kai. It's clear he's not suited to be in the position of power that he's in. He doesn't think things through very well! I still like his character though!
jessethereader yeah he's pretty rad, i love thorne though. he gets SO much better in Cress. I think you'll really like it, it's my favourite in the series. Also there's sooooooo many parallels to Cress and the original Rapunzel. It was very exciting
I also much preferred Cinder. Scarlett was good but it took me ages to read it as I just wasn't as involved. Cress is by far the best yet! My order of preference of the books is: Cress, Cinder, Scarlett.
When I read Cinder, I instantly fell in love with the series. At first I kept figuring out parts of the book to the original tale, which made me love this book series a lot more.
As I went straight into Scarlet, I was mostly trying to find the links to the original story and how Marissa Meyer interpreted in the books. I agree with you that I prefer Cinder than Scarlet but when I read Cress, I loved that book even more.
Great video, I agree with your points of Scarlet and I wished there was more Cinder chapters in Scarlet but I did enjoy reading the book xx
I love Cinder !!!!
Cinder will always be the best in the series.
I felt the same with Scarlet! I think that's the thing about Book2, it's not as good as the first or the next book?!
I definitely agree with the insta-love because they just met and suddenly they're in love? I don't think so. I liked this books, but I feel like I read it a while ago. I'm planning on reading Cress next though!
I really hope you like Cress! Also, if you're planning on reading Fairest, read it after Cress so you don't get spoiled :)
I really liked Scarlet, but I totally understood what you meant when you said that all she focused on was her grandmother. And yes, that is important, but it also left a lot of questions hanging.
I just finished this last night and MY GOD I LOVED THE RELATIONSHIP DEVELOPMENT AND EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED BETWEEN THEM AND IN THE END JUST RUINED IT ALL. DAMN. I WAS SO MAD. But other than that it was awesome.
I think I also liked Cinder's chapters better than Scarlet's chapters. But it was still fun to see how the plot evolves and the introductions of new characters. I could really see Sailor Moon inspiration in third book, Cress, so watch out for that. I love how Marissa Meyer switches between the different viewpoints, it feels like I am watching a TV show :)
I need the Cress review!
Hey u know what...when i first started reading scarlet even i wasn't a big fan of wolflet but till the end i started liking them ....and once u read cress and winter then OH MY GOD...how can anyone not like their love story... its just so good...infact i love all the couples in the book.
I felt the same way about Scarlet! I really enjoyed Cress though I think it overall was a better book. Can't wait for you to read it!
You really love Cinder
i need to finish my current book to jump to scarlet but i already feel your opinions are really alike to what mine will be.
Same opinions. But to be Scarlet seemed more like the selfish one because she was so willing to risk her life and Wolf's (aka Ze'ev), all because she wanted to save her grand-mere. If she wanted you to rescue her and know about the whole the Lunar drama she would have to you, Scar, like come on. Stubborn, Crass(Insensitive towards wolf's drama) , Aggressive, Relentless, Loud, Endearing, Lonely and Taut, are some of my thoughts to describe SCARLET.
I get that it seems like Scarlet is underdeveloped, but I appreciate her character. She's a simple French woman who loved her simple wholesome life. Her world is turned upside-down in a very short amount of time. She loses her rural way of life and SPOILER the person she loved most in the world, her grandmere. Wolf is the only person she can rely on because hes the only person asking her to. So of course she chooses to let herself love him and trust him, because when all is said and done, wolf is all she has right now.
I loved it when Iko was complaining about becoming a ship. I found it quite amusing!
I find it funny that I believe that opposite to be true. I didn't like Cinder in the first book and I still didn't like reading her chapters in the second book. Everyone always talks about how she is so strong and unique and I didn't really feel that way. I want to pick up Cress but it just isn't at the top of my TBR right now. And even though it was a little insta lovey I liked their relationship way more than Kai and Cinder. Neither of their characters made a big enough impression on me to have me ship them.
I feel the same. I loved Cinder and Scarlet was good but she's no Cinder. Maybe I was almost jealous, like I didn't like that Cinder was sharing the spotlight. But wait for Cress! I love her. And Thorn. LOVE LOVE LOVE. Enjoy reading!
I'm reading it right now and I'm about 1/2 way through and I love cinder but I liked scarlet
YOU'RE SO RIGHT ABOUT THE SAILOR MOON FEELS!
We also has the same feel about Scarlet's character. I think she's quite impulsive and always blame someone for her misfortune. It's annoying. Specially the scene in the end in which she's accusing Cinder. I was like, WTH Scarlet, after she saved your neck from those lunars! =__=
Scarlet and Wolf's mushy scene in the spaceship and Iko's been hearing their conversation is so hilarious XD
You better read Cress! The storyline in that book is freakin awesome. Though Cinder is still my favorite character among the three XD
After watching this, I'm pretty sure you're gonna LOVE Cress!! Please read it ASAP I really want to know what you think about it!
When Cinder uses her bioelectricity in this book it actually made me so uncomfortable. Cinder is just such a good person and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable when she uses it, especially on Thorne when they first meet. I guess Marissa Meyer is just a really good writer because she is good at making me be actually afraid of Lunar powers.
I completely agree with what you thought about Scarlet! It's my least favorite book in the series. I'm so glad you're loving this series! I think you'll really like Cress! It's my favorite.
I AGREE WITH YOU 1000%! The Feels and everything. I was searching for something more for Scarlet and Wolf (I just love Little Red retellings) But I do agree with TeaLeavesAndBookBindings now that I think about it. Wolf was a bit insta love....because he is a wolf hybrid and they have mates and such. I felt like Scarlet was starting to get to know Wolf and start a relationship with him which made me want more. BUT I LOVE ALL CINDER PARTS. I MEAN SHE IS MY FAVE AND WE GOT IKO BACK!!!! 🙌
I didn't know Marissa Meyer wrote Sailor Moon fanfic?!
I like Wolf, because his feelings are just so intense so quickly in a believable way to me I guess.(thanks Lunar researchers)
But Scarlet. You said what I thought, outside of desperation for her grand-mere and growing feelings for Wolf she was meh for me. She definitely had very high moments for me, but I kind of feel like she's a more useful Daphne to Cinder's Velma...lol
BUT CINDER I LOVE HER AND HER GROWTH OMG. And Thorne is perf. I adore him.
I'm looking forward to your thoughts on Cress and Fairest. :)
I love Iko. She's my favorite. Wait to you read Cress. Have you read Cress? Cress is naive, but cute. :)
I didn't realize she used to write sailor moon fan fic!!! That makes so much sense! That's actually the main reason why I fell in love with this series I think.
I actually don't really like Cinder or Kai that much. I'm pretty meh about them, so I think that's why I loved this book so much more! I loved Scarlet and especially Wolf. I think I'm very opposite of most people in this but that's ok. I didn't like Thorne at first, I kind of thought he was annoying, but I like him a lot more in Cress :)
I’m still reading this book and yet I came here intentionally-
I agree with you ! I wasn't really a fan of Scarlet's character. I was reading the book wanting more Cinder
Cress is my favorite ❤️
I watched this right after u finished the book. and I agreed with everything u said
It's been awhile since I finished Scarlet, but watching this makes me want to read Cress!!! (I haven't read Cress yet) I actually liked Scarlet and Will, differently than Cinder and Thorn (he's hilarious) but the instalove thing was a little much for me.
I will say that I as well didn't like Scarlet or Wolf as characters nearly as much as I love Cinder,Kai,Thorne,Iko, and Cress (like um all the other main characters.) but the reason why I loved Scarlet as a book more was because of the moments that we did get from Cinder and the way that the plot developed was just SO FRIKIN AWESOME and I just love how everything came together at the end and how Cinder started learning how to control her powers and that scene right before they get into the ship when she controls that one guy (i think. Haven't read the book in a while.) was just genius. But Cress is definitely my favorite installment in the series. I think you'll like that one better. I love Thorne so much. And Cress is just so adorable.
That's funny because I'm thinking all the opposite. I found Cinder very annoying with her superpowers. I was like : YOU CAN CONTROL THE PEOPLE. JUST DO IT ! But I loved Scarlet and Wolf, they are amazing and I love their romance. Finally, Thorne (is it his name, I'm not sure), is special. I thought he was just an extra character with a vehicle. And that's why is important, his vehicle....
That's really funny to see the different opinions ! Great video !
I JUST READ FAIREST IT WAS SO GOOD!