Final Fantasy Tactics: Square's Neglected Classic
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2020
- Having vanished for over a decade now, where has Final Fantasy Tactics gone?
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Matsuno was such a chad mate.
It's a shame that no devs follow the path that he opened, SRPG with mature political themes and cool customizations and all.
Front Mission says hi.
@@dannish8119 I mean in fantasy medieval setting mate, not modern mecha one.
Though FM games are indeed awesome and it's a shame they're no longer mecha SRPG since FM Evolved.
And more than that, if we look a bit closer, the political theme between those two is also different IMO. Matsuno games are political drama akin to ASoIaF, they mostly feature rivaling noble factions, class conflicts, corrupt elites, religion, noble ideals vs utopianism vs good old power politics and such.
On the other hand, the typical FM narratives are mostly about realism in international relations stuff: struggle for power and conflict of interests between nation-states and also other actors especially MNCs, realpolitik and geopolitical stuffs, the clash between state actors and non-state ones, etc.
It is more classical realist scenarios than the Waltzian neo-realist ones for sure.
FE 3H ?
I wish Matsunk stayed to finish writing FF12. The game would have been even better if the story reflected his original vision.
There are some indie developer that followed that route.
Fell Seal Arbiter Mark is pretty good, for example.
FFT and TO were two of the largest time vampires in my life and I loved every moment of it!
Buahahaha
What’s TO?
@@wills242 TO = Tactics Ogre
@@wills242 you need to play Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together. It’s the only tactical rpg to ever come close to surpassing Tactics. I still go back and forth on which one is better.
a ps4 "hd remaster" would be sooo good
This. Would love a tactics collection with War of the Lions, Advance, Advance2.
You just made me drool! You dick!
@@werecoth very unlikely. but here's hoping!
Ever since I played divinity original sin I thought it would be awesome to get a tactics remake or sequel in that style. You can keep the job system customization and add an element of actual exploration to the world.
I would buy it so fast.
I can honestly say this game changed my life. I got it as a birthday gift when I was not even 10 years old and I have played it almost yearly since then. There's something so beautiful and enthralling about the game. I can't quite tell if it is the characters, the sprites, the stories, or "what if" questions I still have about certain characters. It all just comes together perfectly and I have never been able to stay away for more than a year at a time. I feel like this is not only a beautifully engineered game but a true work of art. Every year I get a little taste of the child-like wonder I first experienced when I removed the plastic from the game, popped in the disk into my Playstation and got sucked into FFT.
I think I owe Matsuno a huge thank you.
Same. Favorite game of all time
Man, trying to figure out that game at 10 years old lol. I remember first renting it when I was 12. For a long, LONG time I thought the only classes in the game was Squire, Knight, Chemist, Archer, Monk, Black Mage, and White Mage. And then all these weird other classes started appearing greyed in the selection circle and I was like WHAT ARE THESE?! I didn't really understand the politics and themes of story until many playthroughs later many years later.
4:20
Respect for giving the newcomers a warning too.
Do not save in between battles, or you'll softlock your game.
Or at least make seperate saves
Marche I feel like we’ve all been there, accidentally soft locking ourselves.
I love this guy
It's very recommended to have multiple saves, in case you screw up very badly in one of the battle.
You mean, save in another file. Not saving between battles is not that of a good idea either.
Hey! Someone tossed Monger a Pheonix Down!
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Two days later:
"Holy hell I brought him back!"
Matsuno: best storyteller Square ever had.
FFT and vagrant story: 2 of the best PS1 games. both combining visuals, gameplay and great story.
Tactics Advanced is also a fourth wall breaker in a way. Escapism is the topic and what better way than video games.
Except it's in the form of an unplayable dumpster fire of a game that took everything great about ffta and threw it out the window before taking a shit on the fanbase chests
@@coreyhouse2647 it doesn't pay to compare something that isn't a sequel, you'll only upset yourself. As a stand alone game, seperate from the original it stands up to other tactical games well.
I still have ffta on my gba sp working till this day.
@@coreyhouse2647 i love ffta, cry harder
the FF Tactics games are all majorly underrated masterpieces ♥️
Huh? There's only one on the PS1. The others are just FF skins on shit games that we don't talk about 😅
@@coreyhouse2647 nah
@@coreyhouse2647 you sound like an idiot
I re-played final fantasy tactics for the psp so so so so SO MANY TIMES. im still in love with that game and i really would love to see ramza again in a new game. It was simply such a fantastic game which 1000000% deserves a sequel. I miss that game so much
Finished Tactics for the first time 2 weeks ago, its now one of my favorite games of all time and beats out a lot of FE games which is my favorite series.
FE games?
@@Skycrusher Fire emblem.
@@ab-hx2ii Thank you very much!
I'm so happy your tackling FFT one of my favorite in the FF titles, and I'm really happy your back again.
I remember in Tactics Advance there once one story mission that had a lamia that knew a skill called "kiss." This skill inflicted both the charm (enemy thinks they're on your team for 3 turns, or until they take damage) and doom (enemy will die in 3 turns) statuses. Every playthrough afterwards I always made sure to capture it so that my morpher could use that skill. Good times.
And then use that skill on blue mage so that the blue mage can use it!!
Gotta say, that intro is really great! Keep up the good work and making the quality content you have always strived to make!
I would love for there too be a Final Fantasy MMO set in the Ivalice universe with the five main races being playable and customizable.
My favourite childhood game is without doubt Final Fantasy Tactics Advance, I have spent so much hours playing it and I love every part of it, from the mechanics to the art (which is beautiful btw), the music or the story. I am so sad that they forgot about this games, and leaved them aside.
I hope they continue with them again, it would be delightful uwu
Trisection (or Answers, as its called like that in FF Teathrythim) is the best song to start a Tactical RPG even after all these years. And the OST in general is pure, pure art.
Excellent video and retelling of facts. I also enjoy how you blended in speaking on a few other more diverse and indirect hits outside of the FF series. Makes me want to replay tactics advance all over again!
“Facts.” Ultima II-III _made_ the genre, not Fire Emblem, a decade later...
I do miss the days where you would upload often, around 2017 if I remember correctly
Beginning of video talks about Fire Emblem. - Shining Force: "Am I a joke to you?"
@zach w it's tough AF after a point tho. Damn robots and Auto healing bosses
Was about to say something. But you beat me to it.
Thanks for remembering.
Dude, nice retrospective review. Excellent attention to detail.
Great video! You earned a sub today! Your break was worth it apparently!
I like d the three games, but definitely FFT/FFTWOL was the best for me. The story, the gameplay, the characters, the HERO, the ending. One of my favorite games overall.
I loved how FFTWOL added a lot of the things I thought were missing when I was a child: More interaction of the characters even after joining, Agrias meeting Ovelia once more (and that dagger, well done), Meliadoul confronting her father, Wiegraf recruited by Rofel, and Kletianne having an introduction (and an extra scene with Meliadoul), Beowulf and Reis having a closure to their stories, I was very surprised that most of what I dreamed in that game was fulfilled. Only one thing didn't happen, fixing Cloud as better Character, adding more story to him, adding Tifa, and adding a battle with Sephiroth. Luso was a nice addition.
What's I didn't like from FFTWOL, Onion Knights, the requisite for Dark Knight, the lag, and Balthier (I don't like FF12 characters).
The Advance games, I like them, but they aren't something marvelous either. The games are full of subquests that detract you from the real story, and the story of both games is not that great either because the real focus of the Advance games are the subquests. The characters aren't that great either, and you couldn't even name your generic units (I hated that).
Nowadays I still play FFT a lot, sometimes if I am in the mood I play FFTA. I don't play FFTA2 anymore, the number of quests is just so overwhelming for me nowadays.
:0 what's wrong with 12 characters
Welcome back! missed you!
I think they (over)simplified FFTA2's story because there was "mixed reception" about FFTA's story. It basically boils down to people supporting or opposing Marche's actions.
FFTA2's story was definitely lacking even if not taking its predecessors into account but as others mentioned, Luso may have been milking Ivalice for all it's worth but he still wanted to go home and actually cared about going back home... Unlike a ton of shitty isekai anime characters.
Nice review I agree the addition of job system, and story make this the holy grail of tactics games. The story was so good that it's been used/referenced in both Final Fantasy 11 MMO, and Final Fantasy 12, Final Fantasy 14 MMO.
Great timing! I just finished replaying FF Tactics A2! It's a solid game, and I was surprised to find the post-game sidequests have actually a better story than the main game. I think they didn't want to bog down the experience and sadly sidelined their stronger content.
Your retrospective makes me hope for a new Switch installment of the series! As you said, they have a solid gameplay loop, they just need the story and platform to accompany it. Imagine a dark FFT for the Switch!
Thank you so much for covering one of my most treasured childhood games. I can't express my appreciation to someone giving it some love and attention.
I think the spirit of FInal Fantasy Tactics lives on with Triangle Strategy.
FFT is one of the best masterpieces in gaming history- music, story, gameplay all 10/10
This just makes me want to play one of the tactics game I have 😍 Tactics Advanced was such a huge part of my childhood, having spent so many hours playing it with my late grandma. Such good memories. I remember breaking the trading system with her - she'd transfer me a super unit or late game items since we figured out that if you did it a certain way it would duplicate whatever you traded instead of only transferring it
5 Months... 5 MONTHS 🥺
I actually sent the WotL translator a message thanking him for his work after playing because it's such an improvement to the best game in the series.
🤮 Vomits.
I thought the original was better.
@@Shiningforceking I haven't the slightest clue how you could, but good for you I guess.
@@WillowEpp the WotL version was too.. Old English, "I said unto yee"
I felt the original version being straighter to the point, and plus i loved the text-on-skill it had.
But like you said, to each its own and I can't judge you for that.
the perma death and monster poaching system in tactics was really fun, you could literally breed monsters just to harvest for material.
14:02 As someone who just dusted off their Wii U to download Golden Sun I laughed at how accurate this is
For the Wiegraf fight, I had Ramza moving side to side out of the guy's reach while boosting my speed and attack. He became so powerful that he demolished the Zodiac Beast before it could do anything. Truly the most Saiyan moment in Ivalice's history.
I did that as well, but focused after the boosting on stealing his gear before then trouncing him and going into the beast fight.
Man beast wiegraf is easy since your party will be well equiped. The hardest fight in my opinion is the wiegraf on chapter 1. Im just chillin with the normal job skill (mage casting, archer sniping, chemist throwing, etc) suddenly wiegraf come with its holy knight art. Not only it is ranged, but there is no charge before executing the move, and he hit hard. I can cheese it after like 4 playthrough or more but the first three, excepecially the first playthrough, when i dont know anything, it is very hard. But while it is hard, i think my first playthrough are the most fun i had with my squire ramza (yeah from start to finish i stick with squire for ramza lol)
@@robertsilvermyst7325 You're as ambitious as I hope one day I'll be.
The trick is always keep healing in case he catches you because he will eventually, thanks to his speed being greater than yours at the beginning and plus his movement is far and wide. I liked my last build as Ramza Samurai because i could heal myself and hurt him.
@@joynelbonetdelgado4952 auto potion is a good setting too.
No game has been made that can match Final Fantasy Tactics. Not even Tactics advance. I'd rather see a legit sequel.
The only game that beats Final Fantasy Tactics is Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together
Advance is way better IMO. The first one is too similar to Ogre Tactics (same guys who made it but still..)
@@catzor4795 the story in advance is garbage.
Yeah, am I the only one who REALLY didn't fucking like the FFTA games? FFT is one of my favorite games ever and I was just so disappointed by the direction they went in with those games. They could have done so much better.
@@cloudshad0ws you are not. I was not a fan of them. Overall, I dislike the whole "kids get teleported to a fantasy world" story. Calling FFTA a sequel to FFT is sacrilege.
A warning about playing the psp version would be nice.
~Warning~ The PsP version has an notorious bug that slows down all processing (video and audio) causing distorted audio and out of sync battle animations every time a character uses a special ability (and i think also spell). This can make the game unplayable for many. The only solution is to patch a digital version of the game with a user made patch mod. To my knowledge, the Ps1 Classic digital download available on home console does not have this issue, but all War of the Lions versions do.
Not entirely correct. The War of the Lions version made for apple devices doesn't have this bug and is sadly the only one not to. The retranslation, if you're not willing to play a patched PSX rom with a fanmade one, is essential to experiencing the story the way it was intended, so the remaster is better than the original US release.
In the PSP version you can't steal the genji gear from Elmdore and that's enough to make it unplayable for me.
@@revlarmilion9574 The sad part about the Apple WotL version is that it lacks all of the cooperative multiplayer campaigns, which is all pretty amazing =/ Same for the pvp stuff, too. It's sad you can't get a version with the HD sprites + no slowdown + multiplayer campaigns.
@@ValeVin True. Sadly there's no legitimate way.
How to make every FF fan happy: Announce a Tactics sequel....
I was hoping you would talk about the Isekai trope subversion happening before Sword Art Online in this series. You didn't disappoint. : )
Dot Hack was actually the anime that popularized Isekai.
Literally started playing this again. I absolutely love this game.
Great video. Subbed.
Did you play fire emblem three houses? If so, what did you find most enjoyable about it.
0:26 As someone who grew up on Sega Genesis, I find the lack of Shining Force in this history lesson disturbing.
Not that I really played that game much...
I agree with this sentiment. I grew up watching my grandmother play Shining Force. I'm surprised that game didn't get a mention, rather then Fire Emblem which never got a North America release until 2003 on Game Boy Advanced.
@@christaphernguyen7910 Fire Emblem has its place in the history lesson but then again so does Famicom Wars which came before FE and is its direct predecessor as an Intelligent Systems strategy game...
Shining force was my intro to the genre. I love that series to this day...i just wish we could get a re-release of 3, as well as the parts that never made it here.
Project Triangle Strategy is its new spiritual successor
Man I love the job system in tactics
It's about time your channel icon represented your content
"When we needed him the most, he appeared" welcome back man
Would absolutely love for this to be made on the switch!
It's available on mobile
Tbh I miss the old art, but I’m here for new videos
man, i know this sounds weird, but id love to see some sort of lovechild between FF8 and FFT.
The king has returned
Your back!
Just the video I needed, in these trying times lol
Oh my God you're back! Hi!
Spot on!! I too have spent a lot of time planning my characters on this game. Completed it at least 6 times. And yes, my first, fell into the Wiegraf trap!
And then Square Enix launch War of the Visions: Final Fantasy Brave Exvius for cellphones
With game mechanics copied from Alchemist Code :(
Wow I just randomly felt like looking up FFT videos today and stumble across this video you dropped 5 hours ago
ahh i remember countless nights grinding out the job system and using the squire boost skill. unlocking mathematician and automating the process. turning everything to frogs casting berserk and petrifying the mathematician. all on prologue.
I'll never understand people who hate turn-based games.
Zoomer brains if you ask me, they can't stand sitting and thinking strategically but instead want to throw themselves at a wall until they win won't brute force in real time.
I honestly like turn based games more than other kinds of RPGs tbh
I can play the most basic rpg with the traditional menu selection but can't be bothered to play when needed to move the characters like chess pieces through a map. I just don't enjoy the board-game kind of turn-based gameplay.
Because they dont like strategy game obviously. While i like turn based game as much as i like real time game, i can understand people who dont like turn based game since it require some strategy but why hurt your head more when you play game to relax
@@thecoolcario9048 . As much as I love RPGs, I think you are being very narrow minded, the answer to this is just that people have different interests, or preferences, people can say that we (who like RPGs) are so slow, or without reflexes, that we prefer to play games that have no immediate stakes or have a lot of action.
it’s been so long dude...glad you’re back
OMG I palyed the hell out of that first game you showed.
The 'PSP' version is also available on Android for ~$15.
In case you don't know what an Isekai is it's defined as:
Isekai (Japanese: 異世界, transl. "different world" or "otherworld") is a genre of light novels, manga, anime and video games that revolve around a normal person from Earth being displaced, transported to, reborn or otherwise trapped in a parallel universe, fantasy world, or virtual world, where they must adapt and/or assimilate into this new world, along with its new rules, cultures and philosophies
Why he outright didn't bother to explain it I have no clue. I guess everybody watching was supposed to already know that somehow -_- Aside from that stupidity the video itself is excellent
New monger video, I’m pogchampion ngl
I forgot about the chemists shoe hat, lol!
Should probably explain what "Isekai" Means to those that dont know, I had to look it up. Just as a friendly Critique is all.
Or just look it up.
@@fernandoblengio Or just explain it within the video in case people don't know and save the fucking trouble.
Final Fantasy Brave Exvius: War of the Visions is a brand new mobile game based on Final Fantasy Tactics, and its awesome!
I'm down for a new FFT
This video needs more views.. screw the algorithm flogging up the place with pointless "news" when i would rather see a positive and untainted video.
I remember you monger when you were just a 2d face looking sideways, and I've always liked moogles. Good times.
It takes the end of the world to get this guy to make a vid
Thanks and loved your vid sir about Tactics! Just wanted to share you info that SquarE released FFBE War of the Visions on mobile and has been in service since last November. It doesn't have the 'Tactics' title on it and it's under the FFBE label, but the game has deep roots based on the old FFT which me and a lot of my friends who were also great fans of PS FFT love playing it since its release. I assume this was not included in your video because technically this new game is under FFBE umbrella and has no 'Tactics' mentioned in it.
Love this series, another great one is Yggdra Union on the GBA, also 2 japanese PSP sequels to check out as well, super fun and unique gameplay. It sucks that there arent enough tactical turn based RPGs basicalky limited to FFT(A), Advance Wars, Fire Emblem, Luminous Arc series, Yggdra Union Series, Ogre Tactics, and Pokemon Tactics.
Did you ever play super robot taisen. If not that one is well worth it.
Man... I need this kind of RPG, miss those times, everyone says that they are old and no one like that system any more, but I think they are wrong.
The boy is back.
Surprised there was no mention of War of the Visions - Final Fantasy Brave Exvius at the end. Very clearly draws tons of inspiration from FFT and even has Ramza, Gaffgarion and Orlandeau as playable characters in it. Hope lives on!
the art style is so nice.. i remember i had advance but i only got 10 minutes in and never finished it fsdjkhfsdhjksfd
I'm trying to remember min / maxing from Tactics Advanced and I remember it being a pain, basically having to do a Low Level Game til you got certain things before power leveling >_>
Yoo I forgot I was subscribe to you you have an upload it in so long
if you try to listen to a summary of FFT:WOW, it starts to seem more like Game of Thrones than it is Final Fantasy. It's crazy how much detail was given in the politics.
The Ivalice raids in XIV are my favorites of the game thus far just because of how well it incorporates all these direct references to Tactics and FF12 without feeling out of place in XIV. Not to mention it has some of my favorite fights
YOU’RE BACK!!!!
And then came Project Triangle Strategy on the Switch to continue the legacy of FFT games
Quarantine gonna make these youtubers upload more
I love the Tactics series, the whole genre of Tactical RPGs is so underrepresented imo, there’s just so much potential in the way these games work! I would personally recommend Triangle Strategy to anyone starved for a contemporary take on Tactics. It definitely has it’s differences, most notably a much different job system which feels a little closer to FE, with much more linear class development. But there are also some really neat ideas and aspects at play, with a visual and gameplay style that just feels like a huge love letter to the Tactics series.
I don't know, Luso's goal was to find a way back home. If nothing else I am amused that it's an isekai story that doesn't GTFO to another world and forgets everything about where the MC came from, like most manga/anime/LNs.
And of course, never forget, Marche did nothing wrong.
...
Okay no but seriously, as derpy as the dialogue was now and then, Marche had a decent goal based on the rejection of escapism. The game could probably have made it clearer that the world is fake, but otherwise... yeah, poor Marche gets bashed a lot.
Luso's goal was to find a way back home, while enjoying the alternate world.
About Marche, yeah, I also hate how he gets bashed for being the only one with reasoning. Also, people bash him for what he tells to Doned, that his problems are not as bad as Doned, I disagree. Nowadays I am a teacher, and I can tell you that being a neglected child (as Marche was) can have a lot of negative effects on them, unless they are very resilient.
I would also put in that Marche's friends were beginning to show some negative sides to their escapism. Mewt in particular with the world being based more closely on his desires, as his need for everything to go his way caused a lot of trouble for people he considered his friends, at times putting their lives at risk. He started a self destructive spiral and IIRC (it's been YEARS) very nearly cut off any chance of him having friends or companions ever again, starting down the path of a paranoid tyrant.
As for Luso's story..... He didn't really have one. Luso was a flat character that influenced those around him, causing them to have the interesting stories where they learned lessons and dealt with their demons. Which is fine, flat character arcs can really make your world pop with interesting conflicts and sub plots (Look at Dragon Ball and One Piece) but it does make it harder to write a climax that we're invested in. I remember not being very invested in the final battle of A2, and pretty much stopped using Luso in the late game/post game content where I could. Whereas I was gripping my old GBA in suspense during the climax of Marche's story and I only excluded Marche from the party if I just didn't need his moveset or was in dire need to level up other characters.
@@SingeScorcher In a sense, it's interesting how Luso is barely a protagonist in his tale. His story is that of a record keeper, to act as the driving objective of the party... but he's just, not the protagonist. His objective is to complete his book, and he achieves that by filling it with the tales of those that surround him. He remains an outsider to the tale and to the land, from beginning to end.
It's not a very standard tale, but that's what makes the game as a whole interesting, isn't it?
@@dawk7 Yeah it does. By extension, it puts the player in the position of the watcher/recordkeeper as well, making for a unique perspective of the whole thing. Maybe I found the climax to be lackluster because of the sudden focus on Luso. The rest of the game had him as the observer so to have him suddenly be the protag/hero in short bursts throughout made it jarring. .....OR maybe it's just my personal bias against his general character archetype of the laid back goofball as I don't find them as interesting for main characters.
That being said, I loved the ending. Him waking up in the library and talking to Mr. Randell (whom I didn't recognize was Mewt till that moment) and them actually sharing that experience was a fantastic "OMG these games ARE connected" moment.
I've played this game since released. Still playing it to this very day. My favorite all time. Underrated story and OMG the jobs and amount of skills to learn are wonderful. You'll play the same game and the same story but you'll never play the game the same way twice.
finally another upload
In tactics 1 i softlocked myself about halfway through
Me too, that was terrible
Halfway through? Probably on riovanes castle since it is a pain in the ass to complete
Everyone did, I think. I softlocked there for a week until I managed to push past that level through sheer perseverance.
shining force games got me into tactical games like tactics fun games for sure
I absolutely loved playing war of the lions on PSP (I've not played the rest) and every couple of years since I've tried to find something else to live up to that (without having any of console to play on most the time unfortunately).
I've just started playing war of the visions on mobile, which i would recommend if you want a free to play game with similar tactical game play to tactics (but lacking in many many other ways).
I've also recently found war of the lions is available on mobile now too so if anyone else misses these games, that's worth checking out
War of the Visions: Final Fantasy Brave Exvius went live globally March 25th this year; literally just a tactics gacha mobile game. super fun.
Regarding the genre's history, you have have missed the Shinning Force series. Fire Emblem was indeed first but it was not released outside Japan. The Shinning Force series was the first SRPG (to my knowledge) that was successful outside JP. It was the first RPG I've played. FFT my favorite.
I've only played the War of the Lions on android late last year and man it's sooooo gooooood. It's so fun to mix and match to adapt to whatever the enemies are. I've also played the Tactics on gameboy. Always enjoyed replaying it back to the beginning. Lategame, always hearing the critical hits, oneshotting the enemies is so OP lol
its nice to know tactics isnt actually forgotten it they just havent made a new game for the tactics series, now that brave exvious war of the lions (the new tactics mobile game) is out in global im betting profits off of that game will go to possibly a new tactics project, cosnidering ramza/orlandu were very recent collab units so def not forgotten at all. Tactics advanced is what got me into final fantasy and im glad the spirit of tactics is not dead. also thought ramza being in dissidia NT was pretty cool too
I loved this game growing up. Play it all the time and STILL learning as I go. Like how awesome mimes are and the black mage samurai. You are in the middle of a war and ALL sides are gunning for you, including your best friend and brothers. I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall trying to explain to people why it's better than. Ff7 or ff9.
Would love some digital deluxe editions of these games in a bundle. Need the ability to speed up battle animations and other quality of life improvements
4:30 You went to that fight with a spellcaster Ramza, didn't you?
Me and my brother had a summoner the first time. We died a lot on that fight
XD!