Been laughing for 10minutes straight at “I for one, was one of those people who came into the world thanks to those movies.”. For some reason it took me way too long to realise you were saying you went on to read the books because of the films and not that your mum and dad were watching the films and got so taken in by it all that they decided to have a hobbit of their own.
Who knew I’d become addicted to learning more about more about LOTR… I enjoyed the movies but never realized just how detailed and intricate the true stories are. I’m still waiting for a time when I can just sit down and read ALL of the books.
I read the books before the movies existed and it was at least 20 years before they came about. I was quite pleased as I didn't think it could be pulled off.
I first read the book when they were it. LOTR, The Hobbit. The Tolkien' reader came out, no real middle earth. The good professor had just passed on not to many years gone, and his other published works were devoured without satisfaction. Farmer Giles, and translations of Beowulf and Sir Gwain just didn't fill this just turned teen's appetite. I was joyous when the Silmarillion finally came out. I bought the first copy on the shelf of my local bookstore and read it cover to cover three times in as many months. You have quite a journey before you. It takes a great deal of time, don't put it off too long.
Thanks for the video, well done! I would likely be Fallohide. I come from a long line of restless people who moved around a lot, and still do. Ancestors from Scandinavia and the British Isles left their homes to settle in America a very long time ago. And now I'm here! I've traveled in Europe and Africa, so have upheld the tradition of getting around 😆!
Tolkien was a scholar of Germanic languages and mythology. One of these myths is about the 'Folk Wanderings' which is that during ancient times various Germanic tribes were semi-nomadic before they arrived in their present locations in Europe. There were massive migrations of Germanic tribes coming into the western Roman Empire and settling down for example. Modern scholars and scientists have linked these migrations to the spread of the Indo-European languages which seem to have originated in the steppes north of the Black Sea. I think this is the inspiration for Tolkien's description of the Hobbit migrations as well as the history of Rohan.
Thanks a ton Auris. I love the work of JRR Tolkien, his world and his creatures, his stories and legends, but I also recognize that to try to force your opinions or your way of thinking on someone is so antithetical to Tolkien's view of honor and friendship. As the script writer for this particular video, I am very happy to see people enjoy it and know that we can disagree without being disagreeable to one another. Thanks again :)
Excellent work Mellon!! Ya know, Hobbits love longbottom leaf, and old Tobey. Hobbits are very big fans of pipe weed. You fellas ever get froggy, meet me under the party tree at sundown. When you said Sackville Baggins, I hissed through my teeth. Can't stands thems Sackville Bagginss...Hobbits are quite unremarkable, until they're not. ECTHELION!!
You didn't mention how the Rohirrim knew about Hobbits. When the Rohirrim encountered Merry and Pippin, they mentioned how they were coming face to face with people from their legends. The Rohirrim even had their own word for Hobbits, Holbytla, which translates to hole-dweller. The fact that the Rohirrim knew about Hobbits isn't surprising when you think about Rohirric history. The Rohirrim during The Lord of the Rings are descended from men who lived to the northwest of Mirkwood. Given how ancient Hobbits lived to the west and on the west side of Mirkwood, the Rohirric ancestors lived directly to the north of the Hobbit ancestors.
Great video! As always. Also, the history of the Great Mill was fantastic! I was able to visit there (I live in the US) back in 2018 when they were trying to raise money to save it. So glad to hear that they succeeded!
Would be nice to see their nomadic travels before they settled in Mirkwood. It seems like the three types of hobbits are simklar to the three types of men folk (dwarves, elves, man).
I didn't realise Sarehole Mill had fallen into neglect. We went on a school trip there around 1978, when the point was to study old agricultural techniques and Tolkien was an afterthought!
I would like to be a Stoir because I love the water as much as they do. Also It didn't you talk about the Stoors that Gollum a part of in The Gladden Fields I would love to see a video about that?
In craft and manners I would say more a Fallohide but in countenance and stature, for sure the Stoors. Given my own well mixed heritage, it's not difficult to place myself between these two.
Can we get a video on who would win in a fight to the death. Feanor or Fingolfin. Sure Fingolfin got 7+1 hits on Morgath. But Morgath was weak at that time. The giant spider almost killed Morgath if it weren’t for Gothmog and the Balrogs. That’s who killed Feanor. Feanor has attitude and all his mothers strength. Yes Fingolfin was said to be the mightiest of all of fenwes kids. But I’m not so sure based on feats.
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
"Hobbits really are amazing creatures, as I have said before. You can learn all that there is to know about their ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you at a pinch." -- Gandalf, in The Fellowship of the Ring
That's all well and good, but who CREATED the Hobbits? Was Eru Illuvitar? One of the Valar? I'd put my money on Yavanna. So many of her traits are present in Hobbits.
I think they were simply a tribe of men created at the same time as everyone else, but who preferred to live quietly in distant wooden areas rather than go out on war and conquest. Either they were unusually short even to begin with, or multiple millenia of genetic selection led to their short stature. That being said, Yavanna might very well have asked her boss to make one tribe of men who would appreciate nature more than the others.
TRoP is bad fanfiction and doesn't adhere to the lore Tolien himself established. Instead of being one of three types of Hobbits as described by the author TRoP instead portrays them as "proto-hobbits"
@@wizarddragon How are they being depicted perfectly? By being a singular tribe with a common ancestry? By not doing anything or "about to do" something that's going to make the other races aware of them? Or not doing anything that would put them on Saurons radar that way they will totally surprise him in the 3rd age? You mean they are doing all that right?
@@Amondil1 You haven't even watched the show. Your questions have nothing to do with what we have seen so far. There have been no hints they are about to do anything but continuing their wandering.
@@wizarddragon So when metor man tells Nori that he needs to go to a place were you can see a certain constellation, this place probably being Mordor based on the diagram he was drawing when her dad broke his leg definitely means they won't be getting involved right.... Or Nori and her friend being their version of Sam and Frodo and the producers saying this show needs a "fellowship" definitely means they won't be interacting with elves and men doesn't it... Also I did watch the show when it premiered budy.
Okay, my mother's people were Lord Mayor's of Worcester for several generations but it wasn't bloody Worcestershire. It was Warwickshire (okay it was a slip of the tongue, I know) but as a proud Mercian, a Warwickshire lad and a Brummie born and bred, I actually lost my rag at the video, unrepeatable orcish black speech words were said. None Midlanders won't know the difference but if its Worcestershire, then he's almost ..... Welsh 😉
@@5PctJuice yeah I saw that too, it seems more like they conflated that with the fact the Hobbits didn’t influence larger events openly till the Third Age
Fallowhides for sure. Bilbo is half Took, his mother was Belladonna Took, one of the daughters of the Old Took, the Thain of the Shire and Pippin's great-grandfather. I can't quite remember how Bilbo was related to the Brandybucks but I believe it was very near kin. Both The Bagginses were extremely respectable and so predictable, you normally knew what a Baggins would say on any subject without needing to ask, but while not anywhere as rich as the Tooks or the Brandybucks, they were part of the landed gentry, so I'd guess they too were mostly Fallowhides.
Yes, true! But these videos give us more than any film adaptation can give and I would like to thank the author for his sensitive portrayal of Tolkien's writing about the Hobbits. I cannot recall which type of Hobbit Bilbo or Frodo were but I would love to be like them!
I want Peter Jackson to make a movie about all the various ages and storylines! Give me in-depth Moria, The first age and break down the stories of the dragons, Morgoth, the full background of Gandolf and all our major characters! I’m kind of shocked no one has tried to get HBO to invest in a series (NOT THE AMAZON Garbage)! A good budget working w Peter for an advisory role but getting depth and detailing the constant and important stories that brought The fellowship.
Breeds of hobbits.... You mean the small folk that weren't around before the 3rd age? Or that harfoots are hobbits? (Tolkien's own words) Or that your shilling for amazon so much that most folks don't give a crap what you say Goodbye a once great channel, hello amazon shills
@@spangelicious837 as the writer for this particular video, I was going to say: these are literally tolkien's words, straight out of the prologue to the book this fellow is so ardently defending against amazon. I haven't seen the show but I've been reading Tolkien since I was 14 years old and I'm 37 now. I started writing professionally three years after I read The Silmarillion for the first time. Between then and now I'd like to think I've learned that there is no way to change someone's mind and no reason to wish to do so. I am not trying to do that. I'm trying to write about a series of books that I love and explain some of the lore to people who may not know about it, to anyone wanting to know more about Middle-earth but doesn't have the time to read the books. It would be a better world if we could disagree without being disagreeable, and remember that we are a community brought together by our love for this world, not by our hatred of others. thanks for watching the vid, friend. There is *always* hope.
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Been laughing for 10minutes straight at “I for one, was one of those people who came into the world thanks to those movies.”. For some reason it took me way too long to realise you were saying you went on to read the books because of the films and not that your mum and dad were watching the films and got so taken in by it all that they decided to have a hobbit of their own.
That's how I interpreted it at first too :D
You’re a genius congratulations
Could go either way, really 😅
Who knew I’d become addicted to learning more about more about LOTR… I enjoyed the movies but never realized just how detailed and intricate the true stories are. I’m still waiting for a time when I can just sit down and read ALL of the books.
The lore is very addictive 😂
I read the books before the movies existed and it was at least 20 years before they came about. I was quite pleased as I didn't think it could be pulled off.
Waiting to read?!? On of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard especially from someone screwing around on YT
I first read the book when they were it. LOTR, The Hobbit. The Tolkien' reader came out, no real middle earth. The good professor had just passed on not to many years gone, and his other published works were devoured without satisfaction. Farmer Giles, and translations of Beowulf and Sir Gwain just didn't fill this just turned teen's appetite. I was joyous when the Silmarillion finally came out. I bought the first copy on the shelf of my local bookstore and read it cover to cover three times in as many months.
You have quite a journey before you. It takes a great deal of time, don't put it off too long.
Thanks for the video, well done! I would likely be Fallohide. I come from a long line of restless people who moved around a lot, and still do. Ancestors from Scandinavia and the British Isles left their homes to settle in America a very long time ago. And now I'm here! I've traveled in Europe and Africa, so have upheld the tradition of getting around 😆!
Tolkien was a scholar of Germanic languages and mythology. One of these myths is about the 'Folk Wanderings' which is that during ancient times various Germanic tribes were semi-nomadic before they arrived in their present locations in Europe. There were massive migrations of Germanic tribes coming into the western Roman Empire and settling down for example. Modern scholars and scientists have linked these migrations to the spread of the Indo-European languages which seem to have originated in the steppes north of the Black Sea. I think this is the inspiration for Tolkien's description of the Hobbit migrations as well as the history of Rohan.
Great video! The TBS logo is so bada$$!
I would say I'm a Fallowhide. Their love of forests definitely resonate with me as a resident of Washington state. 🌲🌲
Channels like this truly understand and enjoy Tolkiens works for what they are. Unlike the elitists, who claim their opinions are law
Thanks a ton Auris. I love the work of JRR Tolkien, his world and his creatures, his stories and legends, but I also recognize that to try to force your opinions or your way of thinking on someone is so antithetical to Tolkien's view of honor and friendship. As the script writer for this particular video, I am very happy to see people enjoy it and know that we can disagree without being disagreeable to one another. Thanks again :)
Yes indeed!!
I love the mountains, woods and the rivers. So I must be a mixed breed Hobbit I guess!
Thanks for this video. It gives more context especially since we have the Rings Of Power TV series.
Excellent work Mellon!! Ya know, Hobbits love longbottom leaf, and old Tobey. Hobbits are very big fans of pipe weed. You fellas ever get froggy, meet me under the party tree at sundown. When you said Sackville Baggins, I hissed through my teeth. Can't stands thems Sackville Bagginss...Hobbits are quite unremarkable, until they're not.
ECTHELION!!
You didn't mention how the Rohirrim knew about Hobbits. When the Rohirrim encountered Merry and Pippin, they mentioned how they were coming face to face with people from their legends. The Rohirrim even had their own word for Hobbits, Holbytla, which translates to hole-dweller. The fact that the Rohirrim knew about Hobbits isn't surprising when you think about Rohirric history. The Rohirrim during The Lord of the Rings are descended from men who lived to the northwest of Mirkwood. Given how ancient Hobbits lived to the west and on the west side of Mirkwood, the Rohirric ancestors lived directly to the north of the Hobbit ancestors.
Awesome content!! :D love me the little peoples!
Great video! As always. Also, the history of the Great Mill was fantastic! I was able to visit there (I live in the US) back in 2018 when they were trying to raise money to save it. So glad to hear that they succeeded!
Great history of Hobbits. Love your message of hope.❤️
Would be nice to see their nomadic travels before they settled in Mirkwood. It seems like the three types of hobbits are simklar to the three types of men folk (dwarves, elves, man).
"service with the speed of a sprinting dwarf"
haha. nice one.
totally awesome video title, “Concerning Hobbits” love it!!
I didn't realise Sarehole Mill had fallen into neglect. We went on a school trip there around 1978, when the point was to study old agricultural techniques and Tolkien was an afterthought!
I always look forward to the acoustic at the video's end when everything is summed up, thank you!
Awesome video as always❤️. I just love Hobbits, being nearly the size of one 😄
So the Harfoots DID HAVE their *Wandering Days*
I would like to be a Stoir because I love the water as much as they do.
Also It didn't you talk about the Stoors that Gollum a part of in The Gladden Fields I would love to see a video about that?
In craft and manners I would say more a Fallohide but in countenance and stature, for sure the Stoors. Given my own well mixed heritage, it's not difficult to place myself between these two.
Definitely a Fallowhide
Can we get a video on who would win in a fight to the death. Feanor or Fingolfin. Sure Fingolfin got 7+1 hits on Morgath. But Morgath was weak at that time. The giant spider almost killed Morgath if it weren’t for Gothmog and the Balrogs. That’s who killed Feanor. Feanor has attitude and all his mothers strength. Yes Fingolfin was said to be the mightiest of all of fenwes kids. But I’m not so sure based on feats.
Always enjoy hobbit lore
I would be s fallohide as a hobbit, rohirrim as a human and lothlorien elf as an elf
awesome vid James really enjoyed it mate 😀😀😀😀😀
Thank you!
Tolkien worldbuilding is peak when it comes to hobbits
I am definitely most inclined to settle down in my very own hole.
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
"Hobbits really are amazing creatures, as I have said before. You can learn all that there is to know about their ways in a month, and yet after a hundred years they can still surprise you at a pinch." -- Gandalf, in The Fellowship of the Ring
Hobbits is my first peoples in middle earth!
Well done! 😄
Thank you!
I would so be a Harfoot.😀
Definitely Fallowhideish, literate & musical, willing to adventure in my youth, with a little prodding.
There is always hope
That's all well and good, but who CREATED the Hobbits? Was Eru Illuvitar? One of the Valar? I'd put my money on Yavanna. So many of her traits are present in Hobbits.
I think they were simply a tribe of men created at the same time as everyone else, but who preferred to live quietly in distant wooden areas rather than go out on war and conquest. Either they were unusually short even to begin with, or multiple millenia of genetic selection led to their short stature. That being said, Yavanna might very well have asked her boss to make one tribe of men who would appreciate nature more than the others.
My family's name comes from Warwickshire ,sanborn or sanbourn with means sandy brook ,it dats back to 603 AD
Probably more like a Stoore xD
According to Amazons rings of power, you have harfoots " of many colours". Please explain.
TRoP is bad fanfiction and doesn't adhere to the lore Tolien himself established. Instead of being one of three types of Hobbits as described by the author TRoP instead portrays them as "proto-hobbits"
Thanks
So the book Hobbits and their ancestral history are not the ones being depicted in the Rings of Power show.
Harfoots are being depicted perfectly. wtf you saying?
@@wizarddragon How are they being depicted perfectly? By being a singular tribe with a common ancestry? By not doing anything or "about to do" something that's going to make the other races aware of them? Or not doing anything that would put them on Saurons radar that way they will totally surprise him in the 3rd age? You mean they are doing all that right?
@@Amondil1 You haven't even watched the show. Your questions have nothing to do with what we have seen so far. There have been no hints they are about to do anything but continuing their wandering.
@@wizarddragon So when metor man tells Nori that he needs to go to a place were you can see a certain constellation, this place probably being Mordor based on the diagram he was drawing when her dad broke his leg definitely means they won't be getting involved right.... Or Nori and her friend being their version of Sam and Frodo and the producers saying this show needs a "fellowship" definitely means they won't be interacting with elves and men doesn't it... Also I did watch the show when it premiered budy.
The names are not strictly speaking accurate, but other then that - so far perfect in every detail, including Harfoots having slightly browner skin.
definitely would have been a Fellohide, yup.
I'd be a Trifoot, have to tuck the tip into my sock.
Okay, my mother's people were Lord Mayor's of Worcester for several generations but it wasn't bloody Worcestershire. It was Warwickshire (okay it was a slip of the tongue, I know) but as a proud Mercian, a Warwickshire lad and a Brummie born and bred, I actually lost my rag at the video, unrepeatable orcish black speech words were said. None Midlanders won't know the difference but if its Worcestershire, then he's almost ..... Welsh 😉
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Fallowhide.
Seems like they are doing a pretty decent job of showing the early hobbits in the show actually one of the more interesting storylines so far
yeah but there's a couple black ones so everyone looses their minds
Yeah I’m surprised everyone thought that was out of line canonically; we know they’ve been around since the Elder Days
@@ItsButterBean1020 There was some false info going around when the Harfoots were announced that Hobbits didn't appear until the Third Age
@@5PctJuice yeah I saw that too, it seems more like they conflated that with the fact the Hobbits didn’t influence larger events openly till the Third Age
people would rather hate as opposed to giving thought or reason
So what type of hobbit are bilbo and frodo?
They are a mix of two, you have to guess with their personality.
Fallowhides for sure.
Bilbo is half Took, his mother was Belladonna Took, one of the daughters of the Old Took, the Thain of the Shire and Pippin's great-grandfather. I can't quite remember how Bilbo was related to the Brandybucks but I believe it was very near kin. Both
The Bagginses were extremely respectable and so predictable, you normally knew what a Baggins would say on any subject without needing to ask, but while not anywhere as rich as the Tooks or the Brandybucks, they were part of the landed gentry, so I'd guess they too were mostly Fallowhides.
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Seen the first two of the rings of power and I can only think Tolkien must be turning in his grave
Yes, true! But these videos give us more than any film adaptation can give and I would like to thank the author for his sensitive portrayal of Tolkien's writing about the Hobbits. I cannot recall which type of Hobbit Bilbo or Frodo were but I would love to be like them!
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Yup, and all of these three types of proto-hobbits were of the third age, not second, which is why harfoots don't belong in the show....at all.
I want Peter Jackson to make a movie about all the various ages and storylines! Give me in-depth Moria, The first age and break down the stories of the dragons, Morgoth, the full background of Gandolf and all our major characters! I’m kind of shocked no one has tried to get HBO to invest in a series (NOT THE AMAZON Garbage)! A good budget working w Peter for an advisory role but getting depth and detailing the constant and important stories that brought The fellowship.
Folk is pronounced foak as in oak just heads up..
Jackson butchered the dwarves…worse than what Disney did…Tolkien would have hated them
YES!! BEEN SAYING. people are either too young to remember that people were not happy with jacksons version at first till it made money.
Can someone please tell me what the name of that acoustic song is towards the end of the video?!
Breeds of hobbits....
You mean the small folk that weren't around before the 3rd age?
Or that harfoots are hobbits? (Tolkien's own words)
Or that your shilling for amazon so much that most folks don't give a crap what you say
Goodbye a once great channel, hello amazon shills
Brilliant. Another "Tolkien fan" who never read the book.
All this information is found in the prologue to LOTR.
You're free to leave 👍🏾
quoting tolkien is now shilling for amazon? cool story bro.
not everything is about you Greg
@@spangelicious837 as the writer for this particular video, I was going to say: these are literally tolkien's words, straight out of the prologue to the book this fellow is so ardently defending against amazon. I haven't seen the show but I've been reading Tolkien since I was 14 years old and I'm 37 now. I started writing professionally three years after I read The Silmarillion for the first time.
Between then and now I'd like to think I've learned that there is no way to change someone's mind and no reason to wish to do so. I am not trying to do that. I'm trying to write about a series of books that I love and explain some of the lore to people who may not know about it, to anyone wanting to know more about Middle-earth but doesn't have the time to read the books. It would be a better world if we could disagree without being disagreeable, and remember that we are a community brought together by our love for this world, not by our hatred of others.
thanks for watching the vid, friend. There is *always* hope.