recently had an interaction with Turin and I cannot express well enough what an absolute gentleman and absolute chad he is. love the channel and love coming home from work to see some carnage in TW every night, even if I don't have time to play!
Thanks for the cast. It was a fun game. What I didn't show you is Outer immediately beating me with a quad copter build in the semis after this match lol. MU is still dawi favored imo but on a big map like this one I think Coast can equalize things by using their buffed speed and some funky moves.
To anyone saying the Thunderbarge nerfs are too much. He put it out in the open against a faction with a lot of capability for ranged firepower. If he took one or two gyrocopters to hastily respond to artillery, he could've sat that thing at any of the objectives to rain hell on the pirates. It can still dish out a lot of damage, you just can't set it on a path and forget about it anymore. In all honesty this isn't about how poorly the barge performed - it's about how well the VC player brought everything to perfectly counter the strengths of the dwarves.
Preach. Dwarves were almost 100% build countered, didn't use the spec ops (that took the back point) to kill the cannon, and they still managed to stay fighting.
The Barge is still a very viable unit. It secured the backfield easily, the problem is the dwarf frontline got obliterated because Outer didn't bring an answer for Syreens. This forced him to put the Barge in a bad position to save the middle and that is where it died
You dwarf mains can put me in the book for all I care, but as a Slaanesh main I got rock hard seeing that oversized blimp crash to the ground. I'll never forget the horrors of dealing with that atrocity in land battles.
I can see this being the optimal opponent for syreens, dwarves rely on a high armor which is fully negated while their already low melee attack is dumpstered even further with charmed. On top of that there are only two regular units I can think off with magic attacks, one being slow as balls and the other very pistol-able. Blasting charges are still an issue though.
Honestly I doubt, they will be useful, but dwarfs should still be terrible matchup for them. As you mentioned blasting charges are hard counter and if dwarfs brought like 5 more units instead of barge I doubt coast could snipe them. Plus Hammerers have magic and high armour, we might see em used finaly
Do you think we'll see more of the Syreens' cousins Cairn Wraiths as well? The differences between these units as of patch 5.1 are that Syreens have 6 more melee defense and the -8 melee attack debuff, while Cairn Wraiths have 6 more melee attack, 12 more weapon strength, and Frostbite debuff. Seems like the Wraiths have entered infantry blender territory.
Coast is certainly a faction that can do something about the barge, still ate a lot of firepower, guarded his backline quite well for a good part of the game.. But yea 3k i a lot.
Great to see coast, don't see them to often and I just watched your recent single faction tournament video with them. Just wondering, is the necrofex colossus bad in mp? I never see anyone take it.
Holy Smokes, what buff did Syreens get to make them such powerful can-openers? I still think they struggle to hold the line but if you use them in the classic undead fashion (mixed with chaff or monsters) they can punch above their weight.
They have always been good at countering dwarves, they have high AP and physical resist. Dwarves are a highly armored faction with weak magic damage, with the exception of Slayers and some elite units/heroes.
Swear to god, if we ever get a vampire coast dlc for wh3, they better give them some kind of flying ghost ship unit If mountain dwelling dwarves get cannon firing airships, the PIRATE FACTION deserve a flying dutchman
They are still ridiculous in singleplayer. A barge doomstack is still pretty much unbeatable with all the buffs from tech, faction and red skill line. They are still so strong that they get pretty boring after a two or three fights. At least for me
I normally love any dwarven game, even those that they lose because of how interesting just about all dwarven builds seemed to me as a non multiplayer person. That said, this just was boring to me for some reason. The dwarven build just seemed to be without any teeth, balance, or purpose, design. The thunderbardge limped around and almost everything else was just low tier trash infantry wondering around aimlessly getting picked to pieces. Again, I bow to the better players here as I certainly dont know better than them, I am just stating what I am seeing. It is a first for me and I am hoping it is just a one off as I am not sure if this is a shift for me after years of always auto clicking every dwarven video yet. My point is that I dont know how to articulate it, but this is just a very meh game to me after so many years of always hyped games. The mist was very cool though and I am glad VC is being balanced out for sure. I just wish it was a bit more interesting of a clash to a non-multiplayer person. However, maybe not all of the vids are going to be.
indeed if thunderbarge remains as resistant to melee, it will still be a nightmare for rush factions. It should be more fragile and cheaper, instead of being a win or lose choice.
@@emultra759 If they are on the field use it as a support tool until your gun line has taken out the enemy fliers. The hard counter to it is artillery, as anything else can be baited into range of your guns or your own artillery.
Coast buffs were too minimal. Lowest leadership and stats in the game still, and too slow to avoid any magic. Syreens getting a whopping +2 damage and a kickass +3 to melee attack, I mean..... You saw how they were still fighting even with basic dwarf warriors by themselves. Terrible :)
recently had an interaction with Turin and I cannot express well enough what an absolute gentleman and absolute chad he is. love the channel and love coming home from work to see some carnage in TW every night, even if I don't have time to play!
What was your interaction?
Ghost units need that daemon disappearing effect on (re)death. Glowy blue horses littering the field is pretty silly.
its just the damned knights summon from cylostra. CA gave them a ghost reskin but making a new death animation is apparently too much effort.
Thanks for the cast. It was a fun game.
What I didn't show you is Outer immediately beating me with a quad copter build in the semis after this match lol.
MU is still dawi favored imo but on a big map like this one I think Coast can equalize things by using their buffed speed and some funky moves.
GG!
Good match my man cool see the new tech
Bob the Builder? More like Bob, the Architect of Your Demise.
Man, that was one of the coolest Coast armies I've seen in Dom. Well played!
To anyone saying the Thunderbarge nerfs are too much. He put it out in the open against a faction with a lot of capability for ranged firepower. If he took one or two gyrocopters to hastily respond to artillery, he could've sat that thing at any of the objectives to rain hell on the pirates. It can still dish out a lot of damage, you just can't set it on a path and forget about it anymore. In all honesty this isn't about how poorly the barge performed - it's about how well the VC player brought everything to perfectly counter the strengths of the dwarves.
Preach. Dwarves were almost 100% build countered, didn't use the spec ops (that took the back point) to kill the cannon, and they still managed to stay fighting.
Cope harder
The Barge is still a very viable unit. It secured the backfield easily, the problem is the dwarf frontline got obliterated because Outer didn't bring an answer for Syreens. This forced him to put the Barge in a bad position to save the middle and that is where it died
Nah it’s been nerfed dreadsurian style. Instead of being an anchor for one of the most suffering factions in domination it’s now just meme style
@@jackiekennedy4902 hey don't speak bad about dread suarian, guy can wipe out half a unit just by walking through them now
Your welcome for cajoling Outterregion to take the thunderbarge in this matchup, I got to watch this live XD
Haha funny seeing you here, I was there doing the same!
An actual death animation? *wheeps in doombell*
You dwarf mains can put me in the book for all I care, but as a Slaanesh main I got rock hard seeing that oversized blimp crash to the ground. I'll never forget the horrors of dealing with that atrocity in land battles.
I can see this being the optimal opponent for syreens, dwarves rely on a high armor which is fully negated while their already low melee attack is dumpstered even further with charmed. On top of that there are only two regular units I can think off with magic attacks, one being slow as balls and the other very pistol-able. Blasting charges are still an issue though.
Honestly I doubt, they will be useful, but dwarfs should still be terrible matchup for them. As you mentioned blasting charges are hard counter and if dwarfs brought like 5 more units instead of barge I doubt coast could snipe them.
Plus Hammerers have magic and high armour, we might see em used finaly
@@Kralfilable Hammerers have no shields though. Not exactly what you want to take into a strong AP shooting faction.
@@adamperdue3178 That's why they wouldn't be in the initial force.
The fog looks strange because it moves with the camera
Same way it would if you walked through it IRL. Except it doesn't really move, you just see through a part of it.
God i love to see coast play, syreens look real solid now and the cost decreases overall look great for em!
The Thunderbarge didnt deserve a nerf, bring my boy back to his former glory ;(
9:39 "dickhand mobs" LMFAO I love you Turin.
I hope we don't see any fan art of that
Love these plays! The flanks against the dwarves was so oppressive.
Bob that builder, can he kill it? Bob the killer, YES HE CAN.
How did you miss saying "oh the humanity!!" When the barge went down
Do you think we'll see more of the Syreens' cousins Cairn Wraiths as well? The differences between these units as of patch 5.1 are that Syreens have 6 more melee defense and the -8 melee attack debuff, while Cairn Wraiths have 6 more melee attack, 12 more weapon strength, and Frostbite debuff. Seems like the Wraiths have entered infantry blender territory.
Coast is certainly a faction that can do something about the barge, still ate a lot of firepower, guarded his backline quite well for a good part of the game.. But yea 3k i a lot.
Love to see this innovative vampire coast strategy doing so well! GGWP!
hail the motherfuckin mighty, we are so back
Pretty damn cool VC build, nice to see a faster army for them.
oh the dwarfmanity!
did something change with the last patch my bolt thrower stil 4 not 8 why ?
Patch 5.1
@@turinRTS yes my patch is 5.1 but the bolt thrower still 4 unites not 8 i don't know why is it different if you play skirmish vs the Ai ?
Gotta drop a "oh the humanity!" for the blimp, Turin!
Great to see coast, don't see them to often and I just watched your recent single faction tournament video with them. Just wondering, is the necrofex colossus bad in mp? I never see anyone take it.
Pretty weak sadly!
@@turinRTS Sad! If you do a stream with coast soon, I'd love to see one for at least one game!
"EVERYBODY...GET IN HERE"
Holy Smokes, what buff did Syreens get to make them such powerful can-openers? I still think they struggle to hold the line but if you use them in the classic undead fashion (mixed with chaff or monsters) they can punch above their weight.
They have always been good at countering dwarves, they have high AP and physical resist. Dwarves are a highly armored faction with weak magic damage, with the exception of Slayers and some elite units/heroes.
Seems like the broken thunderbarge hitbox was fixed so it's a lot more squishy now
only of the mournguls paid for itself in a game where most of opponents army is their target, holy balance.
Thundercougarfalconbird
Swear to god, if we ever get a vampire coast dlc for wh3, they better give them some kind of flying ghost ship unit
If mountain dwelling dwarves get cannon firing airships, the PIRATE FACTION deserve a flying dutchman
debuffing with price increase seems excessive for the thunder barge.
Seems risky bringing a barge to such a shooty fight. Great backline harass from the coast!
HEY EVERYONE! GET IN HERE!!!!!!!!
I knew you'd notice!
As much as I love seeing the thunderbarge in multiplayer it kinda took the funny/fun factor away for for me in my single player campaigns.
Run the 'tabletop caps' mod.
Stops doomstacks all around.
They are still ridiculous in singleplayer. A barge doomstack is still pretty much unbeatable with all the buffs from tech, faction and red skill line. They are still so strong that they get pretty boring after a two or three fights. At least for me
@@SyBorg-to3ni Yeah, so I run tabletop caps so the AI doesn't get them and I don't use them in my armies.
Easy.
Man it would be really cool if they added more weather effects that affected how certain units perform or even just for flavor
GRIM PATRON REFERENCE YAAS
Great video! (Haven’t watched it yet)
I normally love any dwarven game, even those that they lose because of how interesting just about all dwarven builds seemed to me as a non multiplayer person. That said, this just was boring to me for some reason. The dwarven build just seemed to be without any teeth, balance, or purpose, design. The thunderbardge limped around and almost everything else was just low tier trash infantry wondering around aimlessly getting picked to pieces. Again, I bow to the better players here as I certainly dont know better than them, I am just stating what I am seeing. It is a first for me and I am hoping it is just a one off as I am not sure if this is a shift for me after years of always auto clicking every dwarven video yet. My point is that I dont know how to articulate it, but this is just a very meh game to me after so many years of always hyped games.
The mist was very cool though and I am glad VC is being balanced out for sure. I just wish it was a bit more interesting of a clash to a non-multiplayer person. However, maybe not all of the vids are going to be.
indeed if thunderbarge remains as resistant to melee, it will still be a nightmare for rush factions. It should be more fragile and cheaper, instead of being a win or lose choice.
What happens if it gets swarmed by ripperdactyls or vargheists?
@@emultra759 If they are on the field use it as a support tool until your gun line has taken out the enemy fliers. The hard counter to it is artillery, as anything else can be baited into range of your guns or your own artillery.
Can \ has a Thunderbarge Lost yet? From some comments i may be speaking to soon
its a cool units, but those airships and that landship shouldnt be in the game... its stupid
Anyway nice video
Turin, when Dune Spice wars? Don't drop this game pls!
Coast buffs were too minimal. Lowest leadership and stats in the game still, and too slow to avoid any magic.
Syreens getting a whopping +2 damage and a kickass +3 to melee attack, I mean.....
You saw how they were still fighting even with basic dwarf warriors by themselves.
Terrible :)
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Not surprised the barge did nothing this game. Gotta love them nerfs -_-
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Thats what that thunderbarge deserves!Thoes dwarfs with rhat overpowered discusting ship deserves the L
3:00 smartest thrones of decay dwarf main too busy microing his no-micro unit to protect / fire a single shot from his bolt throwers
The fog looks cheap
It's just me or most dwarfs replays are still defeats, even after throne of decay
Poor dawi😢
They had a huge win in yesterdays major tourney
Thunderbarge nerfed into a meme unit
It's still good, just not against hard powder factions
As was foretold. It was always destined for dreadsaurian status due to certain loud microcommunity
@@jackiekennedy4902 It was extremely overpowered with no realistic way of countering it. Everyone could see that.
Imho CA nerfed the TB to pieces
As was foretold. It was always destined for dreadsaurian status from the crying mp micro community
@@jackiekennedy4902 Yet here you are.
usually you show good matches. this one was a bad one.
Awesome awesome Coast build, I believe in Cylostra supremacy 🧎