What would an NBA Finals win do for Jayson Tatum's legacy? | NBA | SPEAK
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones discuss what an NBA Finals win would do for Jayson Tatum's legacy. He currently has 2,600 career playoff points which is the most in NBA history through a player's first seven seasons.
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Curry didn’t win the finals mvp that first year. But, he is still Curry
Curry Is alot better player
Curry didn't win the Finals MVP when he won his first, second, or third championship. KD winning Finals MVP helped his legacy more than it hurt Curry's.
The difference is that both KD and Curry had been league MVPs before the 2017 and 2018 rings. Tatum and Brown are barely in the MVP conversation.
He was also rewriting history from the 3 point line. Tatum isn't 'the best' at anything in particular
If JB wins finals MVP it means he had the better series lol stop tryna split these men apart my lord lol every duo gets love as a duo except the Jay's it's crazy lol
And if you look at the stats JT had about the same amount of points as JB with double the assist and rebounds. So it really don't matter
And what about curry not winning finals mvp, until his 4th?
Curry should've won it
Definitely should of won 2015 🤷🏾♂️...... Also Curry better
Jaylen Brown is getting that Finals MVP
Tatum is 😊
Nah
I am a Celtics fan love JB but Tatum is a better all around player. Tatum avg way more rebounds and way more assists. JB is a dog and can score anytime he wants. However, JB cannot consistently make plays for other teammates.
Agreed
😂😂😂😂😂
It would *Start* it.
Bro! It’s a team! Every team is gone put the most defensive pressure on JT. That’s gone leave 4 other people either wide open or able to make the pass to the wide open player. I hope JT do t listen to people like this and just try and go get a chip no matter who the mvp may be.
All of these people clearly are lazy and don’t understand basketball Jayson Tatum has won more these all those people he is being compared to
Depends on how he plays. If Tatum chokes, but the Celtics still win, Tatum will still have massive questions asked about him. Think back to what was happening with Steph Curry years ago. He kept choking in the Finals, but the Warriors won the majority of those series anyway. That's why Curry needed that 2022 moment to show that he wasn't a choker in the biggest moments. For Tatum, winning isn't enough. Like with Curry, Tatum has to play GREAT, win, AND get the Finals MVP. Especially with the GARBAGE competition he's faced thus far, if he ends up choking, it'll just show that the East was a MAJOR factor in what he's done all year
You KNOW Absolutely NOTHING about basketball.. Stick to watching youtube. smh
Curry was not choking on first finals do your research
@@dangelobrown87 he was. Dellavedova was locking him up and arguably outplaying him
That dude was gassed out chasing steph curry 26pts per game
Iggy won FMVP over Curry, Shaq one the FMVP over KB who averaged like 17pts his first finals run and people still have him in their Rushmoore. Shut up about his legacy half way through his career
Tatum is a HOF Stat Padder and the Celtics allow it
Bingo!!!!!
He not even in the top 10 in FG attempts he not near the stat padder is the rest
@@em6824 you are an idiot 😂😂😂
lmao you want a stat padder sga is a stat padder. tatum is a really good team player you haters just say whatever
No he isn’t lol
What rooms you can enter...
Tatum a HOF’er alrdy? With a championship?
TMac is my favorite player, but zero playoff success. Even if Boston don’t win it all, you have to give credit to getting to the finals,con. finals, etc. the ring or bust for everyone has poisoned the convo
What if another Celtic wins the FMVP 😅
So steph curry not winning finals mvp meant he wasnt the best player on their team
KD was the better player on those 2 title teams. As for Iggy, you could argue that Iggy was a better playoff/Finals player in terms of shining in the biggest moments. Curry kept choking in the Finals
@@jctslicewhat shine did Iggy cuz bron was still avg 30 10 6 on his head top while curry was avg 25
He already won a league MVP, secondly Curry was more accomplished than TJ at that time. Thirdly it was against Lebron who was the best player in the league. No one thought iggy was the best player on the team for winning the finals MVP. An argument can be made if Brown wins the finals MVP that he is or was the best player that entire season.
What legacy?!
Joy being hating!!! Huh??? I wonder if she is a Miami heat fan?? She is such a hater as is this whole show
JB is not winning Finals MVP, Jason Tatum is good, I mean, real real real good! JT will win it.
I’m not much of a Jayson Tatum but if he wins this ring he’s better than Paul Pierce
What most people forget was that in the previous title run the Celtics had in 2022, Tatum's approach to the games were different. He was their primary scorer and only looked to attack. Him and Brown carried the load offensively but also burned out. In round one, Cs swept the Nets, Round 2 against the Bucks it went to game 7. Tatum had a 46 point game to avoid elimination before winning in game 7. Then you take the Heat to 7 before running out of gas in the Finals. This year, Tatum and Brown's approach to the game are different. Their usage has gone down significantly and their assist rates have gone up. JT has gone to 4.9 assists per game, JB has gone to 3.6. Meanwhile their usage has dropped from 32.6 to 30.1 for Tatum and JB has dropped from 31.4 to 28.9. This also means they are FAR less fatigued this far into the playoffs than they were previously. Certainly the rest they have gotten from ending series early will be an added bonus.
Ofc they will be less fatigued that’s what happens when best player on every team you play gets injured.
@@JustStay16 You mean GOT injuries the previous series they played in or a lingering injury from the regular season. Sucks that it happened, but it’s not their problem. Play who is in front of you. It was crickets years before when players on the Cs were hurt.
Actually idk if it happens I can’t remember the last time a team played 3 straight teams whose best player was injured l. But even if it did happen I’m saying that’s why there less fatigued and rested going into finals not because of there approach to the game 😂
This is not the right crew to talk basketball 🏀 😂
No it is not that’s why in a couple years this show will be recast and repackaged again
Keep joy Taylor
@@marshallmartin6064She’s the most clueless
Why not?
They just need someone else that can talk more than football
Tatum just averaged 30 and 10
Against no Jimmy butler and against Isaac okoro and Andrew nembrand 😂😂😂of course he will average 30 against that😊
@@Flash.96_96jimmy doesn’t even defend JT vs the heat
@mrbingo7564 do ya even watch basketball 😂😂😂 every time Jimmy buckets plays the heat lose
@@Flash.96_96 plus jimmy never goes at JB or JT now he calls for pick to get DWhite off him.
I hate the media because what are they doing having this conversation? Like the conversation is irrelevant and very negative in a way. It's like they're pinning two players against each other that are on the same team instead of complimenting them and hoping they play better
Tatum is not a hof what?
He is?
Yeah they just be labeling any good player having a good run HOF worthy it's pathetic
Tatum Is The Better Player He's The One Who Gets Double Team Of Course It's Going To Look Like Brown Is A Better Player ...
The double team percentage on possession this season was not that far off between the 2 and the same goes for the playoffs. This double team narrative is way over blown. Because we clearly saw doubles being thrown Browns way against the pacers and the cavs. So let's stop the b.s
Let’s be real teams worry about Tatum more than, they will EVER worry about Brown in their game plan.
@therethatboygo.8527 let's be real. If that's the case, why are the opposing team best defenders always on Brown? Aaron Gordon, Jimmy butler, Jaime(however you spell his last name), draymond green, Julius Randell, og anunoby, Harrison barns, Jabari Parker, Desmond bane, I mean I can go on but I think you get the point here..
@em6824 exactly. Brown gets doubled, too. Yet he's still very productive
@em6824 that's a lie 😂😂😂😂.
He’s already a hall of famer. Basketball is the easiest HOF to get into
Lol
I was thinking the saaame thing...lol. Requirements must have changed...
I know… I’m like Tatum is a HOF’er alrdy??? Weird.
Make him the best player of the game. He has been First Team All-NBA three times.
He's not better than Jokic. He's not better than Giannis.
@@jctslicehe’s sitting at the table with those players.
@@Tariq597 with no rings ?
@@Tariq597no hes not
They better win now before the Spurs draft Bronny
Jesus why is this only about Jayson Tatum? They act like this man is the only one that plays for the Celtics. There are other players. Man doesn’t even have individual accolades but we’re talking about this man getting one ring.
He’s the star that’s how it works
@@kingjames361 Jaylen is also a star 🤦♂
@@zuhayrakhanyeah but he’s the second option the main star will always get the blunt of the criticism
I agree with joy he has to win fmvp
Joy is rocking that Anakin Skywalker hairdo! It looks nice on her though. She also clearly prefer these go-go dancer outfits.
Leave Joy alone. She's beautiful 😂
@CoraNFL s he look like her bro I can't unsee it 😂😂
Tatum a hall of famer? Right now?
YES
@saynomoremedia7463 I disagree his resume isn't impressive
@@daibu05he has like 50 plus playoff wins and has the second highest total points in playoffs history before the age of 27 behind Kobe 5 ecf appearances 2 final appearances multiple all nba and all star appearances all star MVP ecf MVP and he’s just 26
@@crypto_thug9218he needs 94 points to catch Kobe before he turns 27. He has at least 4 more games in the finals to do so…
@@daibu05 Reggie miller a hall of famer bro lol Tatum getting in rn
Let's keep it a buck.!! A healthy Brunson/knicks team would have beaten the Tatum/Celtics and made the finals this season. So sports 🏀 talk shows are right about the path the easy path that the Celtics got to the Finals. Haliburton/pacers gave them all they could handle. All choked games 1/3. So what do you think 💭 Brunson would have done. Inclosing if the Knicks have their full team in the playoffs next season. They will come out of the eastern conference playoffs. I will put 💴 on it as soon as I’m able.!!
Let's have the discussion of individual accolades,,,,then come back and talk,,,JT has done some thangs!! Already!! 😅
Segment says what does a title do for TATUMS legacy...joy immediately goes into sewing doubt & comparing him to jaylen brown. These guys cant win with the media.
You guys know absolutely NOTHING about basketball dam I coudnt eveh finish listening to it. Just stick to football y’all do much better at that because basketball isn’t any of you guys thing lol
CELTICS is favorite to win this NBA Finals they have a good record during this playsoffs even in regular season
If Celtics win, Tatum would not be thought of as the best player in the NBA. Its like any player at the time from the Pistons in 04
No you wouldn’t have to have the conversation about who’s better because they’re teammates. Who. Cares. They win together they lose together. You just said you didn’t like pitting them against each other and then you immediately pit them against each other
HOF come on now. They really need to get educated before talking sports. Hes a good olayer HOF tho cut it TF out
Slow day! Curry didn’t get a finals mvp till that Celtics series and his legacy was cemented- a title puts emphasis on
These are just stupid conversations and talking points. They wasting time until the finals.
This man said Tatum in the same room as Bradley Beal 😭😭😭 Y’all do NOT need to be talking basketball
How brown undervalued lol dude makes 300mil 🤣 and I’m from Boston as a Boston fan 🤣🫡
Jason Tatum is way better player than Jalen Brown he most people better brown just scores
Bro Hall of famer what dust are you smoking he isn't even close to the hall of fame
STICK to FOOTBALL ACHO.. your the WORSE
Great take by Acho
Joy says nothing interesting per usual
Always happy to hear T-Mac getting his flowers.
Lord. Same talking points on every show. wtf
This is the narrative now. When he wins they’ll move the goal post
Oh snapppp, is acho in Diddys room???? 🤣
Why this guy in the red talking like the reverend on these players
Compared Bradley Beal and T Mac all-time… yeah, no
bro in that colorful suit was spitting heat!
Tatum would be right above KD
Yall just be calling everyone a “hall of famer” How many league MVPs? How many championships? Relax.
Fr. Hall of Famer? 😂😂😂 WAY too early.
@@df6148he’s a hall of famer now
@@saynomoremedia7463 he doesn’t even have a League MVP under his belt. No scoring title. No DPOY. Just inflated stats from a weak conference. He needs TITLES to actually prove something and this is his chance to do it. Other than that he’s a “gentleman’s HOFer”
It don't take much to make the hall of fame in the NBA just check who's made it already lol Tatum already got them beat and he 27
There are lots of Hall of Famers without Championships and MVPs! Obviously you know nothing about what makes a player great! Championships and MVPs are the separators, for all time greatness. But sometimes things don’t work out for certain players, one way or the other, but if Tatum stays healthy for the next 7 years and let’s just say he hasn’t won a chip, he’ll undoubtedly still be a hall of famer. Quit hating
Talk about Chris Paul harden pg
Dat boy JJ don't speak a lot but when he does, he's on point, salute.
When Cs win… D White will be the finals MVP
This woman said JB is “undervalued”??? Does she even pay attention to sports? The kid is getting paid the highest contract in NBA history.
HoF really
How zero MVPs or titles
Batman and Superman not Robin
HALL OF FAMER 😒 NOT YET
In my region, Jason Tatum on that Ruffles cover is still available while Aja and Lebron covers were sold out within the month.
So an NBA title for him will be quite the boost to the personality that will be embolden to the masses.
Tatum averaging close to a triple double has nothing to prove.They going to hate him.
I love those meetings - mccoy was just in them 😂😂 - stole 2 rings on his way out if we gone be real
That Bron Wemby pick and roll bout to be a dynasty.. Celtics better one and done
jayson tatum is 26 and we’re having legacy talks😭
The Best player on the Team doesn't always wins FMVP
Shady be going crazy 😂
Crazy work
Jaylen Browns best teammate
Nuin
T mac is way better than Paul Pierce btw
Tatum a HOF if he retired after winning a chip, I don't know about that...
Jason Tatum doesn’t have a Legacy. How can a player who let a Miami Heat team with role players beat him 3 times in a row.
Worst take 😂😂😂
Miami also beats the bucks last year.JT was injuredon the last game if you didn't know.That Miami team was an outlier.That's why they lost early this year
You guys try so hard to make Tatum something he is not. If this team win the Title and Jaylen Brown continues to perform at the level he is performing then Jaylen Brown will be the best player. Jason Tatum doesn’t play defense. He is an offensive player only.
Tatum doesn't play defense? thats how i know you don't watch him or the celtics. don't speak on things you have no knowledge of
Jaylen doesn’t get doubled team! So causals like you will think Brown is better.
Also your take on Tatum not playing defence is crazy. Did you forget his defence against Kevin Durant when the Celtics swept the Nets two years ago??? He guarded Durant the whole series.
They'll still diss Jalen just cus Tatum Lightskin . They stay dissing Jalen and will throw every excuse out for Jason
I’m sorry but comparing Tatum to all these great “offensive” players is a little insulting. Tatum’s defense and rebounding are WAY superior to any of those players he mentioned (McGrady, Iverson, etc)
Do they know Tatum was playing injured that finals?
Nothing, because the probability of them winning is low. They barely made it past Indiana, and your celebrating like they won the finals already.
😂 the probability is low? Yeah no it's not
@@adriankendrick4281then they should have blown out the pacers by at least 30 points per game....
But.....
They didn't.
Luka is doing a Luka choke job.
And if it's mini vs boston, or for that matter Dallas.
Pack your bags it's over for Boston.
Make him the best player of the game. He has been First Team All-NBA three times.