I am not sure if Sanji would have joined if he didn’t witness zoro putting his life on the line for his dreams. That’s when he knew that was the right crew
@@saiyansage9136 i dont know luffy would of been able to tank it and mabye kid dont know about law still the damage would of been way to much for them to do anything later unless they all get that drug that zoro got which they dident have more then one of so
He said that smoker might help them reach the clock tower for Vivi to stop the bomb, but Zoro saved smoker in crocodiles casino, and if Zoro didn't save smoker a huge conflict will happen without Smoker.
@@leonmaser9743 but saving smoker was a luffy's order it's not like Zoro decided to save Smoker it was an order given by luffy so anyone would have done it
Zoro defeating King was more important than you think, bro. See I put it at the end of the sentence instead😂😂😂. But Marco himself stated that he was unable to continue fighting, Yamato was trying to save the island and Sanji was knocked out after awakening his true abilities. Both kid and law were fighting big mom and to be completely honest, the only ppl that stood a chance to beat king to me was Law, Yamato and upgraded Sanji. With King free to roam the battle field using all his underhanded tactics the final outcome of Wano could have been very different.
My issue with this video is that yes there are stronger characters that can take care of the enemies that zoro faces but they are all busy dealing with their own enemies most of the time exhausted afterwards so zoro is the only person left strong enough to handle opponents of that level in this situations
@kuraokamiiii Yeah they wouldn't make it past enis lobby. Zoro was the only one strong enough to beat kaku and without him kaku would just gang up on sanji and then luffy. They have no way to survive Enis lobby, even with monster point chopper
Zoro's absence on the crew will have big impact. Luffy fighting the 2nd strongest enemy before the boss will prolly make luffy have more difficult time defeating the boss and many of these boss fights are fought to death. For example luffy fighting kaku before proceeding to fight lucci will prolly result on luffy not surviving enies lobbym
Yes Sanji would face Kaku and Jabra at the same time and not survive it. After that the three strongest enemy's of the arc have no worthy opponent other than Luffy who can't defeat even two of them. Well maybe Luffy could take out Jabra and Kaku but not pigeon guy after that.
Don't just skip over Monet at PH.. Sanji would never kick a woman, the rest of the crew doesn't have haki, Tashigi got washed, Smoker was busy getting smacked by Vergo, Luffy was busy, Law was dealing with Vergo.. so tell me who would take down Monet??
Yeah, she would have probably been defeated by nami + robin? Using heat power? Sanji wouldnt hit her but he wouldnt allow her to kill his nakama either. So he would just take all out of the situation by escaping
Plus imo Luffy could’ve easily taken down Monet but Oda wanted to introduce Momo this way because he knew Zoro could pick up the slack with Luffy and Sanji busy but that also means without Zoro I can conceivably see a way for Luffy to beat Monet and then find momo. Also yes to the fact Nami Robin and sanji were there with Monet at one point so it wouldn’t have been that hard to beat Monet as she also is weak compared to the strength of the straw hats at the early parts of the New World
`man luffy would one shot her without much effort either way, the only issue here is that people forget luffy would have died if zoro didnt back up and protected luffy using asura, sanji was busy fighting king AND queen (he didnt had his powerup yet) marco was out of energy and was backing up sanji after healing everyone who became the zombie thingy, zoro was the only one there who could pull off something incredible, and no law nor kidd could even imitate the damage that zoro did to kaido, litteraly watch kaido tanking their hits and destroying them while zoro opened up kaido's wound and made his scar from oden even bigger, law tried to cut kaido's internal organs and failed, kidd tried and did nothing aswell, tbh zoro was the first person to make visible damage to kaido till that point, even luffy only started making visible damage after this
If I’m correct Zoro didn’t even use haki to cut down monet he had scare her which is why she wasn’t moving to get away so I’m sure some other members would be able to scare her like zoro did and defeat her just like zoro did
Zoro is essential to the Straw Hats successful. He is one of the top 3 fighters of the crew. He holds Luffy accountable for being the captain. Even though it isn't said, but Zoro is the vice captain/first mate of the crew. Without Zoro, the crew may not get very far. He wouldn't let Usopp pull crap by leaving the crew whenever he wanted. He is the glue that holds the crew together. Zoro is Luffy's right hand man and Sanji is Luffy's left hand man. Just like Rayleigh and Scopper are Gol D Roger's right and left hand men.
I don’t think that luffy would be able to just fight everyone zoro had to deal with because 1 they would weaken him for the main fight and he’d lose or other way around he would be weakened and could easily lose to the number 2 guy like for enies lobby luffy wouldn’t be able to fight kaku then get into one of his most closest matches when he needed every ounce of endurance and durability wouldn’t have been able to take on any more damage than what he did during that fight
Luffy vs kaido was the final thing to happen in the raid, if luffy were to fight king it would’ve been after king probably went around and killed everyone else already lmao
same for sanji, + kidd and law being completely exhausted, king can probably one shot them, or wouldve probably helped during the fight against them making them even worse in a situation where zoro isnt there
Maybe mihawk will let luffy live because he knows shanks, and the one with luffy being stuck in the cage he could probably some how slip thorough because its not made of sea prison stone.
If Zoro isn’t in wano , either big mom and kaido take the worst generation with the combined attack or once Luffy gets knocked down and Zoro uses ashura kaido would have ran up to Luffy and kill him
They could have dodged it they do have law. Law and Luffy could realistically evade that attack maybe even kid with killer they’re scrappy I guess. On its face that was just a hype moment that didn’t need to be taken head on. Also maybe sanji would have been on the roof and used his speed and blue walk to evade or unlocked his genetics earlier as maybe he would have trained in his new suit like he did off screen training to enhance his armament haki
@@yugiboyable Well that attack had to be too fast and big cause law said they couldn’t dodge it. Zoro gave him just enough time teleport everyone out. Kid and killer were right there and didn’t do a thing. And how would sanji awakening and blue walk have helped with any of those situations?
😅Luffy by himself got full on swallowed by kaido after he ran out of stamina during roof piece (zoro had to save him) I don't think Luffy would have been able to beat kaido and king.
Luffy also has trouble fighting swordsmen which is why Zoro is so important. Being that he is suspectable to slashing atks. Just Count how many opponents Luffy has had throughout the story that either fight bare knuckle or with a blunt object.
Luffy has been swallowed by a snake before I think he can handle it. Plus imo that’s a dumb way to die so I doubt it in any universe except in something like toriyamas Dr Slump or a gag manga
I don't think the Strawhats make it out of east blue without Zoro. Realistically, he was the only strong crewmate Luffy had until Sanji started stepping up but that didn't happen till enies lobby. Agaisnt Kaido in rooftop, there is no way anybody would have won without Zoro. Dude saved Luffy twice and the whole lot of them by blocking that combined attack too for a brief moment. He did more damage to Kaido then Law and Kid combined.
Yknow i rewatched One Piece on netflix (east blue, barouque works )recently , during decisive moments Zoro was always the one who made the hard decisions when Luffy had to leave briefly .
Umm...i disagree with alot of this, like Luffy, Law, Kid and Killer would have all been dead without Zoro blocking Oceans Sovereignty, noone else could have beat King and if he was helping Kaido fight or Queen fight Sanji the balance would have been overwhelmingly in the beast pirates favor, I dont think Luffy could have beat Mr. 2 either. Theres more, stilo love your content and likes the vid i just disagree haha
They could have dodged it they all are capable of doing that. It was a hype moment for Zoro buts that’s all it was. I agree that King would be a problem though but I could see Sanji helping if he awakened his Germa abilities sooner and kicked Queens butt with Sanjis upgraded flames. As for Mr 2 I could imagine Smoker beating him if he came back early enough if he used a transponder snail instead of leaving Tashigi.
No. Law stated the attack was too fast and he couldnt warp them away; it was Zoro who gave them a brief momemt of three seconds to have law warp them away. Zoro is the MVP for saving luffy twice too.@@yugiboyable
I don't think Luffy is laying a hand on Mr.1 tbh. I don't think that you can argue that luffy is much stronger than Zoro prior to Luffy unlocking gear 2, it's literally just before that on Whiskey Peak where they nearly get into a fight and Zoro says something to the effect "I guess we'll find out who's stronger". In my mind they are basically on par (I actually think Zoro was slightly stronger than Luffy prior to gear 2 but meh that's really just speculation). The important thing though is that before Haki luffy had extremely little way to deal with blade users, it's because Zoro is there that he never has to fight them but literally, as far as I can remember, before cracker and katakuri (when he already had haki) I don't think he fought a single strong blade user. Luffy literally has no way to beat Mr.1, he has no attacks with penetration, they are all blunt force impact, and that's not going to do anything to a steel body. Mr.1 can zero dif the buildings around as well, so it's not like he could just pick up a pillar and wack him with it... I don't think Luffy just loses that fight, I think he gets totally decimated.
I think that Zoro blocking the Yonkos attack for a moment does make a HUGE difference, the attack was so fast and powerful out of the five only Zoro could have even touch that without getting instantly obliterated. Ultimately i think that ”Ocean Sovereignty“ would have knocked everyone out on the rooftop if Zoro wasn’t there.
They would use their attacks to make a moment to escape plus if Zoro wasn’t there you know Law would have just used room as they did take time to charge their attack and he’s pretty wary plus he is fresh and didn’t take nearly enough damage at that point for it to affect him.
In wano without zoro there to cut kaido law wouldve had to have done something if he wanted luffy alive and we don’t know if law would be able to damage someone of the caliber of kaido like he did big mom since he is a mythical zone user also if someone else had to tank the attack from big mom and kaido that would hinder the alliance greatly because if it was either law or kid to do it they would be out or too weakened to fight big mom 2v1 and or who would have to fight king after the fact law or kid which would leave big mom 1v1 with whoever which would be a automatic L zoro has shown to have some of the greatest durability feats in the anime and no one could tank that and go back to beat a yonko commander luffy could but then he would probably end up worse then he did the first time he lost to kaido on the roof kid might be dead killer definitely dead which leaves Hawkins creating chaos and with sanji occupied with queen would leave him free to fight like franky so personally it’s my opinion but I don’t think they would pull off beating the animal kingdom and big mom without zoro and all his feats in onigashima
As the once great piccolo said to Gohan in TSF “Dodge!” … yeah they would have just dodged it. Luffy could evade with gear 4 with his version of air walk, law could have used his room to evade, and kid could have used floating junk and junk armor to protect himself.
@@yugiboyableno law stated it himself that he couldnt use his room in time. That is the reason why Zoro tanked the Yonko combo in the first place, to buy them time. Luffy was too slow as well, a fact he thanked zoro for😊
u r forgetting that zoro protected luffy when kaido was going to finish luffy off, and no law and kidd were just demolished by kaido a few moments later, either way law and kidd maximum made kaido flinch while zoro demonstrated advanced conqueror haki before luffy and wounde kaido (yes zoro actually unlocked this before luffy, it was after zoro bought these few moments for luffy to get ready that luffy used advanced conq haki) not only this but the attack he blocked from kaido and bigmom might have hurt law, kidd and luffy early on making it even harder for them (i mean luffy would have awakened either way but yes, zoro did some major plays here since law and kidd wouldnt be able to hold off big mom if they got such an injury this early) also people really think luffy had more energy left after he fought kaido, saw that moment where he paused gear 5 and became a old man? luffy couldnt have defeated king afterwards, and he wouldnt be ale to either way. now lets go to wholecake, nothing really, dressrosa, bro luffy was struggling against pica a few moments before, tbh law was beaten up by doffy so pica + doffy mighta made even luffy loose, also in the area where akainu and kuzan fought zoro didnt do much, fishman island, luffy soloes tbf, sabaody, no problem, well lets get to point, cp9, enies lobbies, all the crew members were too exhausted to fight anyone else, imagine kaku was kept busy by zoro ;-;
About as far as they get if any other members of the straw hats didn't join the crew not very which definitely speaks on how much they rely and depend on each other how good Luffy is at picking out good strong people.
Only 3 Strong Straw Hats 3 mid tier straw hats and the 3 weak ones Luffy isn’t good at all picking out strong people and most of his crew is weak outside of Luffy and the big 3 everyone else is weak Franky weak Robin weak Brook is weak lol most of the crew can’t even use Haki 😭😭😭
@@joeyskywalker1322 That's why you're not the captain. You only measure strength in power yet there are many other strengths the strawhats possess to make up for that. Also to say the other strawhats aren't powerful is just plain wrong.
@Joey Skywalker 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂there is way more to strength than just combat and the Straw hats have proven on multiple occasions and Luffy has proven time and time again that he is an excellent judge of character. Every single member of the straw hat crew are emoportint and Irreplaceable.
If Zoro didn't fight mihawk he would've gone after don krieg. Which means luffy doesn't get to do the "can luffy leave the cook ship without doing any work if he beats don krieg" deal. Which prolly means he would still be stuck doing chores in that ship causing the death of many other straw hats and the arabasta and the fisshman island would be taken over.
You can see zoro is essential by how many times you have to say "but maybe luffy could have beaten that guy instead" while ignoring that luffy already has to deal with the strongest opponent, and even if they did all neatly line up to fight one at a time he would be too exhausted to win.
ohara you make amazing lore and theory videos that outshines many people research, I can see how hard working and determined u r. Ur the sole reason that earned me back my love for one piece as I had a longing to it
sanji wouldn't have survived the nothing happened moment because zoro didn't survive he died and couldn't find his way to heaven and went back to his body.
Those same moves were taken head on my random civilians and they somehow survived. Like that frail old man took on one of Enels names attacks and by the end of the arc he was alright.
I rock with sanji but if he got ko off of the back of zoro sword there is no way possible he’s surviving tanking the warmup kuma gave zoro or all of luffy pain in that situation😂
15:12 I remember saying that Nami could've beaten Mr. 1 because being made of metal is useless when your opponent can control the weather (lightning), because metal conducts electricity.
The thing your missing in wano is luffy and kid and law are fighting big mom and kaido and that takes time and i dout king will just stand there waiting to be defeated by them and marco was in no condition to fight so he would’ve died as long with sanji and chopper king will kill them all and if yamato there who will fight kaido while luffy is knocked out? So momo might die and kaido might come down and kill the rest bc he got nobody to fight on rooftop and that yonko attack wouldvt left the wost generation in a bad condition
Personally, I don't think Mihawk would have any interest in Strawhats without Zoro, and Luffy doesn't have a bounty at this point, so I have zero reason to believe that Mihawk would even try fighting them. Mihawk would probably just take down Don Krieg and maybe his crew and go back to bed. Afterall, his duty as a warlord is to take down pirates, and as far as WG or navy is considered, Luffy is not a pirate at this point.
Sorry but that Wano section is completely wrong. Zoro was the reason Luffy did not get executed by Kaido. He tanked the strongest attack. 2 named attacks from yonkos that Law literally said all of them would have been wiped out. Zoro is the reason they lasted so long. Also, Luffy would not have been able to fight king due to him being in the middle of the fight with kaido and yamato was with him so she wouldnt be able to help either. You are relying on Marco. But, if he was fighting king he would not have been able to play his role when Zoro was fighting King. You downplayed him hardcore in wano. Also, if you dont think him severly damaging kaido had no affect on him after then you also didnt watch him squint in pain from that wound while fighting later on.
i kinda disagree with the neglect on zoro's role in wano. especially where the part of tanking big mom and kaido hakai attack. they will die without zoro.
The best course in this universe is that Luffy saved Zoro due to his nature anyways, but Zoro starts his own crew that ends up rivaling the strawhats in strength and become a giant antagonist
This is like saying how far would Roger get without rayleigh, or how far would any Yonko get without their right hand. Kaido Whitebeard, and BM pretty much being the only ones that would be fine for the most part.
for any of yall watching this in 2024 and you dont want to sit there for 25 minutes then ill tell u all in a short amount of words what he said for all the situations that zoro was needed in ohara said "maybe luffy or someone else could have fought these people"
So.. basically luffy would never could have taken the moments of zoro. Zoro's enemies and moments were crucial and luffy had his own battles that always(ALWAYS) left him eat dirt and pant like an exhausted dog, if not passed out.
I am VERY sure that Luffy couldn't handle King after the fight against Kaido xD Overall I think King is a bit udnerestimated, in fact I believe there are maybe 4 or 5 in the Alliance who would have managed to even damage him. Even on Egghead Seraphims are no Joke, even to Gear 5 Luffy. Other than that, very cool concept for a video!
Zoro only survived the "nothing happened" moment because his spirit got lost on its way to the afterlife which means Sanji probably wouldn't have been able to survive.
for the baratie there is something he forgot mihawk used to fight shanks and he would most likely like literally 98% out of 100% he would realize oh wait did u know shanks and he'd be like yeah WAIT DO U KNOW HIM! and mihawk wouldtell a whole story on how he knows him so mihawk would most likelyleave them alone
funny thing, i actually started watching one piece lately during the starting of wano, 2-3 yrs ago, seeing all those fan edits from wano, i thought luffy and zoro were some kind of rivals and ive always likes the mose head, hence starting OP. Still they being my fav anime duo.
I have an idea for another video: What would happen if the straw hats killed people? For example, people like hachi, crocodile, perona etc. never show up again Their bountys get higher because of notoriety like kids And I don't mean it like the "luffy is evil" video - in my example they still have the same personalities, they just deliver final blows instead of leaving their oponents unconscious
All right that’s a pretty easy one to cover. Luffy still makes his way to orange town. Nami has Luffy locked in a cage like in canon but when she refuses to kill him, buggy’s men attack her. Without zoro around to save her from the buggy pirates Nami meets her end and her last words are apologizing to belemere and her villagers for failing to save them. Luffy is hit by a canon ball but really all this does is break the cage and piss him off. Luffy beats buggy and his entire crew alone. Syrup village would end up with Luffy again doing heavy lifting and recruiting ussop. The pair then make their way to baratie as ussop would at least know how to sail straight. But yosaku dies from scurvy with Nami dead. At baratie since zoro isn’t there mihawk kills don krieg and his crew since he’s bored. Sanji joins Luffy and zeff let’s Luffy leave after seeing how enthusiastic sanji is about seeing the all blue. Luffy and the others don’t mess with arlong since Nami isn’t present here. So Luffy doesn’t get his first bounty at least not yet. As a result, whisky peak is really just vivi being found out and Luffy and the others agreeing to help her. Little garden just has Luffy doing more of heavy lifting as per usual. Since Nami isn’t there, the group never goes to drum island. So chopper never joins. Wapol comes back for his kingdom which I can see going one of two ways. The first outcome is that wapol defeats chopper, dalton, and kureha and takes the kingdom back. The other option is if chopper is able to use multiple rumble balls and his giant monster form kills wapol. This would force kurhea to push chopper into the ocean but she quickly rescues him and dalton would become king. Alabasta would be where things start falling apart. Since the straw hats wouldn’t be high number wise, baroque works agents would eventually beat ussop and sanji. Mr 1 would be the last one standing but ussop and sanji would be impaled to death. Luffy arrives and out of anger, his haki awakened, allowing Luffy to kill mr 1 and crocodile. Not something Luffy usually does but his crew is like his family so Luffy would have done so. Without Nami present, Luffy would start a fight with Blackbeard and get his ass kicked. After Luffy defeating crocodile and mr 1, his bounty would be 100 million which Blackbeard collects and becomes a warlord of the sea. Ace attacks teach to avenge Luffy but this time ace is killed. The rest of the series would be dark and bloody. The end.
I would have to respectfully disagree. Every member fights to the edge and barely survives there battles and its not as simple as putting the load into another member.
Wano without Zoro is a bit of a stretch tbh. He stops kaido from putting down luffy after gear 4th, and before luffy awakens aconq. I also don’t think Marco has enough stamina or firepower to put down king
I think we need to remember that during sabaody oit took zoro sanji and luffy to beat a pacifista i doubt they could have done anything because they all had to go all out during the fight I would say the pacifisra would've killed the straw hats before kuma or rayliegh saved the.
Sanji could tank Luffy's pain, he was able to tank Enel's attack, that could've killed almost every strawhat, also, it would've been a great timing for Sanji to awaken his Germa powers when he took Luffy's pain, but he would have ended up like zoro, or a little better.
Correction... only Luffy could beat Monet. At that point in the story, only the monster trio had armament Haki and could actually hurt Monet, with Sanji being unable to hit vvomen and Luffy not being there. Zoro was the only option ... so Tashigi dies there
I am not sure if Sanji would have joined if he didn’t witness zoro putting his life on the line for his dreams. That’s when he knew that was the right crew
That's headcanon
Having to throw every strong oppenent on Luffy shows how much Zoro is actually needed in the New World 😂
Zoro saved law kid killer and luffy they would of died if he wasn’t there
@@saiyansage9136 i dont know luffy would of been able to tank it and mabye kid dont know about law still the damage would of been way to much for them to do anything later unless they all get that drug that zoro got which they dident have more then one of so
They might need to bring in Sanji and make Jinbei fight King and Queen 💀
He said that smoker might help them reach the clock tower for Vivi to stop the bomb, but Zoro saved smoker in crocodiles casino, and if Zoro didn't save smoker a huge conflict will happen without Smoker.
I was looking for this comment. When Manu said that smoker would help them in alabasta I remembered that smoker will never be alive without Zoro
@@leonmaser9743 but saving smoker was a luffy's order it's not like Zoro decided to save Smoker it was an order given by luffy so anyone would have done it
@@moodong548 there was nobody with luffy at that time
@@leonmaser9743sanji
Ohara is just stupid don't mind him.
Zoro defeating King was more important than you think, bro. See I put it at the end of the sentence instead😂😂😂. But Marco himself stated that he was unable to continue fighting, Yamato was trying to save the island and Sanji was knocked out after awakening his true abilities. Both kid and law were fighting big mom and to be completely honest, the only ppl that stood a chance to beat king to me was Law, Yamato and upgraded Sanji. With King free to roam the battle field using all his underhanded tactics the final outcome of Wano could have been very different.
My issue with this video is that yes there are stronger characters that can take care of the enemies that zoro faces but they are all busy dealing with their own enemies most of the time exhausted afterwards so zoro is the only person left strong enough to handle opponents of that level in this situations
Exactly like he addresses this in skypia and alabasta but doesn’t with any other arc 🤨
@kuraokamiiii Yeah they wouldn't make it past enis lobby. Zoro was the only one strong enough to beat kaku and without him kaku would just gang up on sanji and then luffy. They have no way to survive Enis lobby, even with monster point chopper
Zoro's absence on the crew will have big impact. Luffy fighting the 2nd strongest enemy before the boss will prolly make luffy have more difficult time defeating the boss and many of these boss fights are fought to death. For example luffy fighting kaku before proceeding to fight lucci will prolly result on luffy not surviving enies lobbym
Yes Sanji would face Kaku and Jabra at the same time and not survive it. After that the three strongest enemy's of the arc have no worthy opponent other than Luffy who can't defeat even two of them. Well maybe Luffy could take out Jabra and Kaku but not pigeon guy after that.
Sanji can take them out. No effort. Let's not sleep on Sanji.
@@luiscruz3261 no he wouldnt.
The Luffy I know would just refuse Zoro's refusal until he joins. 😂
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Do what would have happened if Luffy recruited Mihawk and Mihawk accepted.😂
That would be actually good because they have a warlord on the side and they could easily find 1 piece within like a year
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🤣🤣🤣 2 years later, Yonko Luffy found One Piece
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Don't just skip over Monet at PH.. Sanji would never kick a woman, the rest of the crew doesn't have haki, Tashigi got washed, Smoker was busy getting smacked by Vergo, Luffy was busy, Law was dealing with Vergo.. so tell me who would take down Monet??
Yeah, she would have probably been defeated by nami + robin? Using heat power? Sanji wouldnt hit her but he wouldnt allow her to kill his nakama either. So he would just take all out of the situation by escaping
@@garygutierrez443pretty much .
Plus imo Luffy could’ve easily taken down Monet but Oda wanted to introduce Momo this way because he knew Zoro could pick up the slack with Luffy and Sanji busy but that also means without Zoro I can conceivably see a way for Luffy to beat Monet and then find momo. Also yes to the fact Nami Robin and sanji were there with Monet at one point so it wouldn’t have been that hard to beat Monet as she also is weak compared to the strength of the straw hats at the early parts of the New World
`man luffy would one shot her without much effort either way, the only issue here is that people forget luffy would have died if zoro didnt back up and protected luffy using asura, sanji was busy fighting king AND queen (he didnt had his powerup yet) marco was out of energy and was backing up sanji after healing everyone who became the zombie thingy, zoro was the only one there who could pull off something incredible, and no law nor kidd could even imitate the damage that zoro did to kaido, litteraly watch kaido tanking their hits and destroying them while zoro opened up kaido's wound and made his scar from oden even bigger, law tried to cut kaido's internal organs and failed, kidd tried and did nothing aswell, tbh zoro was the first person to make visible damage to kaido till that point, even luffy only started making visible damage after this
If I’m correct Zoro didn’t even use haki to cut down monet he had scare her which is why she wasn’t moving to get away so I’m sure some other members would be able to scare her like zoro did and defeat her just like zoro did
Zoro is essential to the Straw Hats successful. He is one of the top 3 fighters of the crew. He holds Luffy accountable for being the captain. Even though it isn't said, but Zoro is the vice captain/first mate of the crew. Without Zoro, the crew may not get very far. He wouldn't let Usopp pull crap by leaving the crew whenever he wanted. He is the glue that holds the crew together. Zoro is Luffy's right hand man and Sanji is Luffy's left hand man. Just like Rayleigh and Scopper are Gol D Roger's right and left hand men.
I don’t think that luffy would be able to just fight everyone zoro had to deal with because 1 they would weaken him for the main fight and he’d lose or other way around he would be weakened and could easily lose to the number 2 guy like for enies lobby luffy wouldn’t be able to fight kaku then get into one of his most closest matches when he needed every ounce of endurance and durability wouldn’t have been able to take on any more damage than what he did during that fight
Luffy would have had so much trouble fighting King.
Luffy vs kaido was the final thing to happen in the raid, if luffy were to fight king it would’ve been after king probably went around and killed everyone else already lmao
Plus you pull Law or Kid away from the Big Mom fight and things likely go south
Marco seemed like the only option
Yeah this video wasnt planned much
How is luffy supposed to beat King if he is unconcious after beating Kaido?
same for sanji, + kidd and law being completely exhausted, king can probably one shot them, or wouldve probably helped during the fight against them making them even worse in a situation where zoro isnt there
Exactly lmao. King would walk around sweeping up corpses at that point.
for real
Perhaps, Marco could have fight against him? But I dont think he could have defeated him
@@garygutierrez443 is Marco the strongest commander or no?
Maybe mihawk will let luffy live because he knows shanks, and the one with luffy being stuck in the cage he could probably some how slip thorough because its not made of sea prison stone.
If Zoro isn’t in wano , either big mom and kaido take the worst generation with the combined attack or once Luffy gets knocked down and Zoro uses ashura kaido would have ran up to Luffy and kill him
Yeah , Many people ignore the fact that Zoro actually saved the raid by saving Supernovas from early injuries.
They could have dodged it they do have law. Law and Luffy could realistically evade that attack maybe even kid with killer they’re scrappy I guess. On its face that was just a hype moment that didn’t need to be taken head on. Also maybe sanji would have been on the roof and used his speed and blue walk to evade or unlocked his genetics earlier as maybe he would have trained in his new suit like he did off screen training to enhance his armament haki
@@yugiboyable Well that attack had to be too fast and big cause law said they couldn’t dodge it. Zoro gave him just enough time teleport everyone out. Kid and killer were right there and didn’t do a thing. And how would sanji awakening and blue walk have helped with any of those situations?
😅Luffy by himself got full on swallowed by kaido after he ran out of stamina during roof piece (zoro had to save him) I don't think Luffy would have been able to beat kaido and king.
Luffy also has trouble fighting swordsmen which is why Zoro is so important. Being that he is suspectable to slashing atks. Just Count how many opponents Luffy has had throughout the story that either fight bare knuckle or with a blunt object.
Luffy has been swallowed by a snake before I think he can handle it. Plus imo that’s a dumb way to die so I doubt it in any universe except in something like toriyamas Dr Slump or a gag manga
Zoro is one of my favourite characters in anime
i feel you!
Vegeta and and Ban from Seven deadly sins are cool to
With king free ...he could easily end all strawhats...since luffy was busy with kaido and sanji with queen.
3:58 pause. Did you see the attack Zoro tanked to save everyone against Kaido and big mom?
Yeah he basically told us he didnt watch Zoro's accomplishments without telling us he didnt watch them.
Zoro in wano was a MUST have MVP basically
I don't think the Strawhats make it out of east blue without Zoro. Realistically, he was the only strong crewmate Luffy had until Sanji started stepping up but that didn't happen till enies lobby. Agaisnt Kaido in rooftop, there is no way anybody would have won without Zoro. Dude saved Luffy twice and the whole lot of them by blocking that combined attack too for a brief moment. He did more damage to Kaido then Law and Kid combined.
Luffy would die in wano without zoro. This is fact..
Video idea: How far would Zorro get without joining the Straw Hats? 😮
For all the strawhats 1 by 1
He'd be dead
@@CountryTortoise ya by being lost
@@mellylemmy_24 bro he was captured by helmeppo he would have starved to death
Video lasts 1 minute 😂
You should make this a series about each strawhat. I think it would be cool. I really enjoyed the video. Keep up the Great Work!
Yknow i rewatched One Piece on netflix (east blue, barouque works )recently , during decisive moments Zoro was always the one who made the hard decisions when Luffy had to leave briefly .
Umm...i disagree with alot of this, like Luffy, Law, Kid and Killer would have all been dead without Zoro blocking Oceans Sovereignty, noone else could have beat King and if he was helping Kaido fight or Queen fight Sanji the balance would have been overwhelmingly in the beast pirates favor, I dont think Luffy could have beat Mr. 2 either. Theres more, stilo love your content and likes the vid i just disagree haha
Shut up mate whyed you comment this he wont even read it
They could have dodged it they all are capable of doing that. It was a hype moment for Zoro buts that’s all it was. I agree that King would be a problem though but I could see Sanji helping if he awakened his Germa abilities sooner and kicked Queens butt with Sanjis upgraded flames. As for Mr 2 I could imagine Smoker beating him if he came back early enough if he used a transponder snail instead of leaving Tashigi.
No. Law stated the attack was too fast and he couldnt warp them away; it was Zoro who gave them a brief momemt of three seconds to have law warp them away. Zoro is the MVP for saving luffy twice too.@@yugiboyable
Zoro saved luffy’s life a lot of times that you didn’t consider (Like on the roof top battle), but this was still a good video
I don't think Luffy is laying a hand on Mr.1 tbh. I don't think that you can argue that luffy is much stronger than Zoro prior to Luffy unlocking gear 2, it's literally just before that on Whiskey Peak where they nearly get into a fight and Zoro says something to the effect "I guess we'll find out who's stronger". In my mind they are basically on par (I actually think Zoro was slightly stronger than Luffy prior to gear 2 but meh that's really just speculation). The important thing though is that before Haki luffy had extremely little way to deal with blade users, it's because Zoro is there that he never has to fight them but literally, as far as I can remember, before cracker and katakuri (when he already had haki) I don't think he fought a single strong blade user. Luffy literally has no way to beat Mr.1, he has no attacks with penetration, they are all blunt force impact, and that's not going to do anything to a steel body. Mr.1 can zero dif the buildings around as well, so it's not like he could just pick up a pillar and wack him with it... I don't think Luffy just loses that fight, I think he gets totally decimated.
I absolutely agree here
Zoro did stop Kaido from attacking Luffy multiple times. It's debatable, but Luffy may have died without Zoro.
I think that Zoro blocking the Yonkos attack for a moment does make a HUGE difference, the attack was so fast and powerful out of the five only Zoro could have even touch that without getting instantly obliterated. Ultimately i think that ”Ocean Sovereignty“ would have knocked everyone out on the rooftop if Zoro wasn’t there.
They would use their attacks to make a moment to escape plus if Zoro wasn’t there you know Law would have just used room as they did take time to charge their attack and he’s pretty wary plus he is fresh and didn’t take nearly enough damage at that point for it to affect him.
In wano without zoro there to cut kaido law wouldve had to have done something if he wanted luffy alive and we don’t know if law would be able to damage someone of the caliber of kaido like he did big mom since he is a mythical zone user also if someone else had to tank the attack from big mom and kaido that would hinder the alliance greatly because if it was either law or kid to do it they would be out or too weakened to fight big mom 2v1 and or who would have to fight king after the fact law or kid which would leave big mom 1v1 with whoever which would be a automatic L zoro has shown to have some of the greatest durability feats in the anime and no one could tank that and go back to beat a yonko commander luffy could but then he would probably end up worse then he did the first time he lost to kaido on the roof kid might be dead killer definitely dead which leaves Hawkins creating chaos and with sanji occupied with queen would leave him free to fight like franky so personally it’s my opinion but I don’t think they would pull off beating the animal kingdom and big mom without zoro and all his feats in onigashima
How does that glacier of text not have a single period?
@@tobiramasenju6290 man I was just typing 💀
As the once great piccolo said to Gohan in TSF “Dodge!” … yeah they would have just dodged it. Luffy could evade with gear 4 with his version of air walk, law could have used his room to evade, and kid could have used floating junk and junk armor to protect himself.
@@yugiboyableno law stated it himself that he couldnt use his room in time. That is the reason why Zoro tanked the Yonko combo in the first place, to buy them time. Luffy was too slow as well, a fact he thanked zoro for😊
u r forgetting that zoro protected luffy when kaido was going to finish luffy off, and no law and kidd were just demolished by kaido a few moments later, either way law and kidd maximum made kaido flinch while zoro demonstrated advanced conqueror haki before luffy and wounde kaido (yes zoro actually unlocked this before luffy, it was after zoro bought these few moments for luffy to get ready that luffy used advanced conq haki) not only this but the attack he blocked from kaido and bigmom might have hurt law, kidd and luffy early on making it even harder for them (i mean luffy would have awakened either way but yes, zoro did some major plays here since law and kidd wouldnt be able to hold off big mom if they got such an injury this early) also people really think luffy had more energy left after he fought kaido, saw that moment where he paused gear 5 and became a old man? luffy couldnt have defeated king afterwards, and he wouldnt be ale to either way. now lets go to wholecake, nothing really, dressrosa, bro luffy was struggling against pica a few moments before, tbh law was beaten up by doffy so pica + doffy mighta made even luffy loose, also in the area where akainu and kuzan fought zoro didnt do much, fishman island, luffy soloes tbf, sabaody, no problem, well lets get to point, cp9, enies lobbies, all the crew members were too exhausted to fight anyone else, imagine kaku was kept busy by zoro ;-;
What about fishman island were zoro brook and the other guy had to escape the cage. Zoro wasnt there to cut them out so they would've died
Honestly memes aside, they probably aren't making it passed Buggy(orange town). If not deff not Baratie cause we would spend the timeskip at Baratie.
About as far as they get if any other members of the straw hats didn't join the crew not very which definitely speaks on how much they rely and depend on each other how good Luffy is at picking out good strong people.
Only 3 Strong Straw Hats 3 mid tier straw hats and the 3 weak ones Luffy isn’t good at all picking out strong people and most of his crew is weak outside of Luffy and the big 3 everyone else is weak Franky weak Robin weak Brook is weak lol most of the crew can’t even use Haki 😭😭😭
@@joeyskywalker1322 That's why you're not the captain. You only measure strength in power yet there are many other strengths the strawhats possess to make up for that. Also to say the other strawhats aren't powerful is just plain wrong.
@Joey Skywalker 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂there is way more to strength than just combat and the Straw hats have proven on multiple occasions and Luffy has proven time and time again that he is an excellent judge of character. Every single member of the straw hat crew are emoportint and Irreplaceable.
@@crazyt7270 You can have capable people that are strong lol excuses
@@WaShorty If I was in the One Piece world I join the Marines first
If Zoro didn't fight mihawk he would've gone after don krieg. Which means luffy doesn't get to do the "can luffy leave the cook ship without doing any work if he beats don krieg" deal. Which prolly means he would still be stuck doing chores in that ship causing the death of many other straw hats and the arabasta and the fisshman island would be taken over.
I doubt he would have avoided Mihawk for don krieg
You can see zoro is essential by how many times you have to say "but maybe luffy could have beaten that guy instead" while ignoring that luffy already has to deal with the strongest opponent, and even if they did all neatly line up to fight one at a time he would be too exhausted to win.
ohara you make amazing lore and theory videos that outshines many people research, I can see how hard working and determined u r. Ur the sole reason that earned me back my love for one piece as I had a longing to it
Its not if anyone else could defeat zoro's opponents but more of the fact that they were all preoccupied with other enemies.
sanji wouldn't have survived the nothing happened moment because zoro didn't survive he died and couldn't find his way to heaven and went back to his body.
2:35 the climatic battle against Kaido. Well, I guess it does have fire, wind, clouds, lightning, etc.
Next Video How far would the Straw Hats get if Zoro was their Navigator
they'd end up in dbz bro 💀💀💀
7:50 Sanji was able to withstand el Thor from Enel and be okay, I think Sanji could also withstand Luffys pain
Those same moves were taken head on my random civilians and they somehow survived. Like that frail old man took on one of Enels names attacks and by the end of the arc he was alright.
I rock with sanji but if he got ko off of the back of zoro sword there is no way possible he’s surviving tanking the warmup kuma gave zoro or all of luffy pain in that situation😂
15:12
I remember saying that Nami could've beaten Mr. 1 because being made of metal is useless when your opponent can control the weather (lightning), because metal conducts electricity.
The thing your missing in wano is luffy and kid and law are fighting big mom and kaido and that takes time and i dout king will just stand there waiting to be defeated by them and marco was in no condition to fight so he would’ve died as long with sanji and chopper king will kill them all and if yamato there who will fight kaido while luffy is knocked out? So momo might die and kaido might come down and kill the rest bc he got nobody to fight on rooftop and that yonko attack wouldvt left the wost generation in a bad condition
Lol good to see you back ohara
Man please, next talk about the shadow king that AI told Oda about, is it related to 1085 or not?! I mean IMU and gorosei are shadows till now 😅😮🤯
Personally, I don't think Mihawk would have any interest in Strawhats without Zoro, and Luffy doesn't have a bounty at this point, so I have zero reason to believe that Mihawk would even try fighting them. Mihawk would probably just take down Don Krieg and maybe his crew and go back to bed. Afterall, his duty as a warlord is to take down pirates, and as far as WG or navy is considered, Luffy is not a pirate at this point.
If Zoro hadn't tanked the attack of Big Mom and Kaido Luffy, Law and Kid were probably dead
Sorry but that Wano section is completely wrong. Zoro was the reason Luffy did not get executed by Kaido. He tanked the strongest attack. 2 named attacks from yonkos that Law literally said all of them would have been wiped out. Zoro is the reason they lasted so long. Also, Luffy would not have been able to fight king due to him being in the middle of the fight with kaido and yamato was with him so she wouldnt be able to help either. You are relying on Marco. But, if he was fighting king he would not have been able to play his role when Zoro was fighting King. You downplayed him hardcore in wano. Also, if you dont think him severly damaging kaido had no affect on him after then you also didnt watch him squint in pain from that wound while fighting later on.
I cant believe that you FORGOT ABOUT FISHMAN ISLAND
This dude seriously worked backwards to pad out the video. because obviously luffy wouldn't get passed east blue. so nothing past that matters at all.
I'm convinced Ohara is the CEO of Bokksu 💀
Smoker wasn't anywhere near the capital of alabaster, he was pursuing the baroque works ship.
What would happen if zoro refused luffy? Simple. Luffy will refuse his refusal.
This man has made me watch 12 videos in a row cause of the ending making me more excited to watch the next one. Keep it up brother
At some point they will fight at the End of Grand Line or maybe some place in New World.
What if Sanji awakened Germa race when he gets all of luffy’s pain?
I wonder if Zoro will ever get to split the sky. Maybe with Mihawk?
i kinda disagree with the neglect on zoro's role in wano. especially where the part of tanking big mom and kaido hakai attack. they will die without zoro.
The best course in this universe is that Luffy saved Zoro due to his nature anyways, but Zoro starts his own crew that ends up rivaling the strawhats in strength and become a giant antagonist
This is like saying how far would Roger get without rayleigh, or how far would any Yonko get without their right hand. Kaido Whitebeard, and BM pretty much being the only ones that would be fine for the most part.
for any of yall watching this in 2024 and you dont want to sit there for 25 minutes then ill tell u all in a short amount of words
what he said for all the situations that zoro was needed in ohara said "maybe luffy or someone else could have fought these people"
So.. basically luffy would never could have taken the moments of zoro.
Zoro's enemies and moments were crucial and luffy had his own battles that always(ALWAYS) left him eat dirt and pant like an exhausted dog, if not passed out.
I am VERY sure that Luffy couldn't handle King after the fight against Kaido xD
Overall I think King is a bit udnerestimated, in fact I believe there are maybe 4 or 5 in the Alliance who would have managed to even damage him. Even on Egghead Seraphims are no Joke, even to Gear 5 Luffy.
Other than that, very cool concept for a video!
In enies lobby I don't think sanji or luffy could defeat kaku cuz they were too much hurt after fights with Jabra and lucci
16:20 smoker would be dead as he would’ve drowned without zoro saving him
He said that the treats were from a family run business but it showed clips of factories making them 😂 Still love your videos tho❤
Man you should do more of these with like sanji or ussop
while I was watching I also realized that in one arc which I forgot without zoro sanji would have never joined the crew can someone please remind me
you should do how far will Zoro go without the straw hats
He will just starve to death
he will be dead
You made me question zoro's existence in one piece😂
BRO FISHMAN ISLAND LEFT THE CHAT . REALLY AT FISHMAN ISLAND ZORO VS HODY BATTLE IS INGREDABLE AND ZORO KEEPS UP WITH HIM EVEN UNDER WATER
Another great video from the best OP UA-camr out there
Zoro only survived the "nothing happened" moment because his spirit got lost on its way to the afterlife which means Sanji probably wouldn't have been able to survive.
for the baratie there is something he forgot mihawk used to fight shanks and he would most likely like literally 98% out of 100% he would realize oh wait did u know shanks and he'd be like yeah WAIT DO U KNOW HIM! and mihawk wouldtell a whole story on how he knows him so mihawk would most likelyleave them alone
Even though we se zoro training, Sanji trains in the kitchen because of luffy’s “Midnight Snack”
“A stretch of the imagination.” Gear - in a nutshell
The answer to the question in the title could also be "pretty damn far" because they wouldn't have to wait around for him everytime he gets lost
funny thing, i actually started watching one piece lately during the starting of wano, 2-3 yrs ago, seeing all those fan edits from wano, i thought luffy and zoro were some kind of rivals and ive always likes the mose head, hence starting OP. Still they being my fav anime duo.
I'd say Mihawk will leave the Strawhats alone cuz his not the type of guy to go for anyone without a reason
I have an idea for another video:
What would happen if the straw hats killed people?
For example, people like hachi, crocodile, perona etc. never show up again
Their bountys get higher because of notoriety like kids
And I don't mean it like the "luffy is evil" video - in my example they still have the same personalities, they just deliver final blows instead of leaving their oponents unconscious
Even without Sanji's awakening he should be fine, his body should awaken
Sanji has insane durability and stamina.
I wonder if Ohara knows about Minority Hunter Zoro 👀
All right that’s a pretty easy one to cover.
Luffy still makes his way to orange town. Nami has Luffy locked in a cage like in canon but when she refuses to kill him, buggy’s men attack her. Without zoro around to save her from the buggy pirates Nami meets her end and her last words are apologizing to belemere and her villagers for failing to save them.
Luffy is hit by a canon ball but really all this does is break the cage and piss him off. Luffy beats buggy and his entire crew alone. Syrup village would end up with Luffy again doing heavy lifting and recruiting ussop. The pair then make their way to baratie as ussop would at least know how to sail straight. But yosaku dies from scurvy with Nami dead. At baratie since zoro isn’t there mihawk kills don krieg and his crew since he’s bored. Sanji joins Luffy and zeff let’s Luffy leave after seeing how enthusiastic sanji is about seeing the all blue.
Luffy and the others don’t mess with arlong since Nami isn’t present here. So Luffy doesn’t get his first bounty at least not yet.
As a result, whisky peak is really just vivi being found out and Luffy and the others agreeing to help her. Little garden just has Luffy doing more of heavy lifting as per usual. Since Nami isn’t there, the group never goes to drum island. So chopper never joins. Wapol comes back for his kingdom which I can see going one of two ways. The first outcome is that wapol defeats chopper, dalton, and kureha and takes the kingdom back. The other option is if chopper is able to use multiple rumble balls and his giant monster form kills wapol. This would force kurhea to push chopper into the ocean but she quickly rescues him and dalton would become king.
Alabasta would be where things start falling apart.
Since the straw hats wouldn’t be high number wise, baroque works agents would eventually beat ussop and sanji. Mr 1 would be the last one standing but ussop and sanji would be impaled to death. Luffy arrives and out of anger, his haki awakened, allowing Luffy to kill mr 1 and crocodile. Not something Luffy usually does but his crew is like his family so Luffy would have done so. Without Nami present, Luffy would start a fight with Blackbeard and get his ass kicked. After Luffy defeating crocodile and mr 1, his bounty would be 100 million which Blackbeard collects and becomes a warlord of the sea. Ace attacks teach to avenge Luffy but this time ace is killed. The rest of the series would be dark and bloody. The end.
Love the video and keep up the great work ohara
props to the editer or who ever is editing it look 4k.
I would have to respectfully disagree. Every member fights to the edge and barely survives there battles and its not as simple as putting the load into another member.
Every one is needed in their own way
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Wano without Zoro is a bit of a stretch tbh. He stops kaido from putting down luffy after gear 4th, and before luffy awakens aconq. I also don’t think Marco has enough stamina or firepower to put down king
I think we need to remember that during sabaody oit took zoro sanji and luffy to beat a pacifista i doubt they could have done anything because they all had to go all out during the fight I would say the pacifisra would've killed the straw hats before kuma or rayliegh saved the.
6:35 I think it would have had a minor affect solely because of the "Nothing happened😐" moment by Zoro lol
Side note I think he'd either die or awaken his body(Sanji)
Love ya vids soo much!❤🏴☠️
Ohara please make what if luffy never ate a devil fruit
"How far would Luffy and Sabo go without Ace in their lives?" should be your next video because Ace is very important to them.
If it were the straw hats without sanji they are probably not making it past the east blue he cooks their food. no food = death
video idea: making a video about the scene at the end of the post enies lobby arc where Zoro demanded respect for luffy
Sanji could tank Luffy's pain, he was able to tank Enel's attack, that could've killed almost every strawhat, also, it would've been a great timing for Sanji to awaken his Germa powers when he took Luffy's pain, but he would have ended up like zoro, or a little better.
if it wasnt for zoros 9 sword style kaido wouldve bashed unconscious luffy’s head in so i think he was pretty important😂
Correction... only Luffy could beat Monet. At that point in the story, only the monster trio had armament Haki and could actually hurt Monet, with Sanji being unable to hit vvomen and Luffy not being there. Zoro was the only option ... so Tashigi dies there
Do “what if Luffy had a big back” 🔥