At 101,714 peeps on a 16.14 km2 map, that means Liberty City has a density of about 6,301 per km2. About half as much as NYC (11,313.81 per km2), a bit above Boston (5,396 per km2) and about the same as Mexico City (6,000 per km2). Had Liberty City been as dense as the real thing tho, there'd be 182,604 peeps living in it, so I'd say Rockstar did a pretty good job!
Liberty city being divided into 3 main parts with no countryside and no wilderness but only buildings, suburbs, and parks Los santos being 1 huge island, a city being half the size of the map, and 2 other small cities, however there is mostly mountains, countryside, wilderness, and desert
@@peachatthebeach6310почему не понравилось? Горы и сельская местность хорошо передает вайб игры, тут и густонаселённые мегаполисы и тихая сельская жизнь предназначенная для чилла и расслабона
@@paco680 Do you think that we will seriously have a map that is 10x as densely populated as gta 4? Imo it will be somewhere between 200-300k, but they may do something like los santos which will mean lower population.
i always saw it as depressing in certain ways in certain parts. like Acter being depressing for being 100% industries, Algonquin for being so commercialised, broker being just generally shit and having bad weather, but certain places actually have the potential for nice weather which can completely change the colours of the map and make it so much less depressing, though to be fair it’s mostly alderney that does that lmao
Also weather tho, it’s not as sunny and bright as Los Santos n LA. They wearing jackets at times too, so maybe it’s around late fall in GTA 4 tbh. That’s how it is in colder states, you get cloudy days for days
I hate that it'll be 10-12 years before we visit Liberty city again. I'm a new yorker and I would love to see LC again. But seeing this, this helps assauge that longing.
Way longer gta 6 is 2 more years I assume there probably gonna do another city for gta 7 (maybe san fierro or las venturas or maybe something different) It might not even come back.
Maybe not that long. If I remember correctly the dev did said about GTAVI have Live Service part isn’t it. Maybe that’s how they expanded the game and add new map like Los Santos or Liberty City in the game.
great work but my only problem is, alderney is supposed to be based on New Jersey rather than NYC, and is referenced as being (in) another state entirely, so the NYC people per household data potentially wouldn’t apply also, not sure if you did, but it would have likely given a much lower and more accurate population if you did every in-game borough based on the people per household of the borough it’s based off
The people that live in it are so diverse too. It's so interesting seeing different races, ethnics and cultures. It's always great to listen to different accents from all over the map. When I heard some guy yell "You stupid malaka" i searched if I could find more Greek people in the game. It seems hotdog venders and taxi drivers are the most common from my searching.
Great vid! I tried this years ago and came up with 50-75k with 60-65k being what I thought was the sweet spot. I think your counting is much more accurate. I started swagging it in the really dense areas, counting number of buildings per block, average number of floors.
i loved playing this game growing up, i still remember all the times trying to see it i could get inside buildings with no interiors to see what they look like and if there were any npcs inside them
every time i find one of these niche youtuber that do way too much research into these kind of subjects they always turn out to be dutch. we really are everywhere
Nice banger! When GTA 6 drops after some time you should do a video about the population of the state of Leonida. In the meantime, I would like you to do a video on the Population of Just Cause 4
It’s pretty crazy how much bigger in terms of population Liberty city is compared to Los Santos despite being a smaller map. In fact compared to the the real life ratio between New York and Los Angeles of about 2 to 1, it’s substantially higher than it should be.
as someone who lives in an American® City™ IRL, i can tell you firsthand - and this definitely won’t help your plight in counting the population level or GTA games - that quite a lot of skyscrapers that look like purely office buildings are not purely office buildings. a significant number of them are either purely residential, usually condos but sometimes apartments, or mixed use with some combination of office space, residential space, and / or a hotel taking up different segments of the building. at any rate, you’ve got a new subscriber 👍
In the next version of LC, it would be good to see the main island, be as big and dense as the real Manhattan. But I would love to see them really double down on the detail. Have all the neighbourhoods feel distinctive.
@@Sqk. No not really, and I mean Manhattan, as in GTA 4 their version of Manhattan was very condense and generic. I don't mean the other boroughs in the game. Like in real world Manhattan, there is a difference between Soho and the West Village that I want to see captured in a GTA game.
@@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 i think they likely did that because it represents thr vibe of the game. just like how tlad and tbogt have different lighting depending on their themes, for niko Liberty City is a very strange place and especially in the most busy areas packed with skyscrapers it must seem to all blur together, but that’s just my opinion. it could also be they wanted to represent a specific area of manhattan or didn’t have the space and/or time to fully flesh it out. i do agree though, a truly expansive LC with a much bigger map, and countryside like the scrapped upstate area for IV, would be great
nahh no way, i just watched the gta 5 video from 8 months ago, went to see if you made one for gta 4 and you uploaded it literally yesterday. Good shit bro. Well made, good quality
Calling it now but this is probably gonna be the highest number of people the population series will reach. The only contender after this would be the even more skyscraper dense sleeping dogs
Hey, I love your population vids! Ever considered doing a population vid for an open world medieval game like Witcher 3 or Kingdom Come Deliverance? KCD would actually be simpler than a GTA, as the game's area is small and the buildings on the map are displayed very clearly.
Lol for some reason I just started to watch your videos a couple of days ago wondering how the rdr map looks from above and how many people live their.. and their you go uploading gta4 while I was browsing gameplay of it lol. Have a nice day!
I know doing this would be quite difficult considering the state of it in the games, but would it be possible for you to count the population of one of the fallout games? Of course assuming that when you find a building the population is counted based off of what it would have been before the war.
honestly would be difficult because buildings are uninhabited or whether you count characters such as raiders and such. estimated prewar population would be impossible dissapointingly. quite a large amount of buildings are leveled and its hard to grasp when your looking at a building torn in half.
You hit a niche that nobody else satisfies. Brother, stick to this format and production quality and I believe you'll be looking at much more than just 10K subs soon lmao
5:11 You drew the border between Dukes and Broker wrong. The border isn’t along that highway, Broker still goes a bit north past that highway on the west side. Not that it matters for the total calculation, but still.
This is possibly the best time to release a GTA related video.
oops, lucky coincidence i guess
was going to comment this
Agreed
@@commugum One could say it's millions to one.
Yeah
At 101,714 peeps on a 16.14 km2 map, that means Liberty City has a density of about 6,301 per km2. About half as much as NYC (11,313.81 per km2), a bit above Boston (5,396 per km2) and about the same as Mexico City (6,000 per km2).
Had Liberty City been as dense as the real thing tho, there'd be 182,604 peeps living in it, so I'd say Rockstar did a pretty good job!
Liberty city being divided into 3 main parts with no countryside and no wilderness but only buildings, suburbs, and parks
Los santos being 1 huge island, a city being half the size of the map, and 2 other small cities, however there is mostly mountains, countryside, wilderness, and desert
@@peachatthebeach6310 that is just California tho isn't it
@AnNy-mx6tl ingame it's san andreas but they are about the same
The mountains and wilderness is what people didn't like about the game
@@peachatthebeach6310почему не понравилось? Горы и сельская местность хорошо передает вайб игры, тут и густонаселённые мегаполисы и тихая сельская жизнь предназначенная для чилла и расслабона
lets just appreciate how much we appreciate appreciating commugum's hard work.
i appreciate the positivity of this appreciation post
@@p0ntI’m pretty sure that’s appreciated.
Rockstar should give this legend GTA 6 early so you can count how many people GTA 6 should have.
That would take months
I wonder what population will have the gta 6 map...1 million maybe?😳
@@paco680 Do you think that we will seriously have a map that is 10x as densely populated as gta 4? Imo it will be somewhere between 200-300k, but they may do something like los santos which will mean lower population.
@@doubleseven1463 its gonna be 100k max, the map is only 2.5 times bigger then gta 5 so i really doubt we are gonna get 300k. maybe 150k
After a life of crime Niko gets a call from Library paper needing a consensus of LC
Idk why but I’ve always thought that the GTA IV map was intentionaly made so depresing so it can match better with the story.
i always saw it as depressing in certain ways in certain parts. like Acter being depressing for being 100% industries, Algonquin for being so commercialised, broker being just generally shit and having bad weather, but certain places actually have the potential for nice weather which can completely change the colours of the map and make it so much less depressing, though to be fair it’s mostly alderney that does that lmao
Also weather tho, it’s not as sunny and bright as Los Santos n LA. They wearing jackets at times too, so maybe it’s around late fall in GTA 4 tbh. That’s how it is in colder states, you get cloudy days for days
@@SuperBabyMario0C there is also an animation for steam at the mouth of the characters and npcs when they breath. This can also sugest a cold weather
It’s literally just how New York is
I love how imperfect the roads are in GTA iv, they are tiny and fun to speed on
I hate that it'll be 10-12 years before we visit Liberty city again. I'm a new yorker and I would love to see LC again. But seeing this, this helps assauge that longing.
Probably be 14-15 more years until LC is back seeing that gta 6 will be released on 2025
although gta has aprox used liberty city 7 times
Way longer gta 6 is 2 more years I assume there probably gonna do another city for gta 7 (maybe san fierro or las venturas or maybe something different) It might not even come back.
Maybe not that long.
If I remember correctly the dev did said about GTAVI have Live Service part isn’t it.
Maybe that’s how they expanded the game and add new map like Los Santos or Liberty City in the game.
But besides GTA, there are many other games that are set in New York City.
great work but my only problem is, alderney is supposed to be based on New Jersey rather than NYC, and is referenced as being (in) another state entirely, so the NYC people per household data potentially wouldn’t apply
also, not sure if you did, but it would have likely given a much lower and more accurate population if you did every in-game borough based on the people per household of the borough it’s based off
The people that live in it are so diverse too. It's so interesting seeing different races, ethnics and cultures. It's always great to listen to different accents from all over the map. When I heard some guy yell "You stupid malaka" i searched if I could find more Greek people in the game. It seems hotdog venders and taxi drivers are the most common from my searching.
Yeah I never played the game before (was like 2 when te game came out) and I was shockt how good everything was designed.
"Oh fuck, it's Manhattan!"
That actually got a laugh out of me, fantastic video!
6:33 for me was this moment
I just saw your GTA 5 population video and was hoping you'd done one for GTA 4. Didn't expect it to be this recent though haha!
Great vid! I tried this years ago and came up with 50-75k with 60-65k being what I thought was the sweet spot. I think your counting is much more accurate. I started swagging it in the really dense areas, counting number of buildings per block, average number of floors.
i loved playing this game growing up, i still remember all the times trying to see it i could get inside buildings with no interiors to see what they look like and if there were any npcs inside them
I think Saints Row 2 would make for a perfect addition to this series.
Varied boroughs and large scale, perfect for a brain denting experience!
The timing on releasing this is crazy XD
Also great job on 10k and now 12.9k :D
Amazing job dude! Do the population of Night City next!
Yoooo i saw GTA V video and wanted to find same for GTA IV but there non of them. I Started playing GTA IV and now your video appears! Thanks!
just as the gta6 trailer gets leaked you upload this perfect timing
Loved your video, as I always do! Congrats for 10k subs, definitely deserved it :D Cheers!!
this is some insane masochism. Amazing video 👍
You should do Ghost Recon: Wildlands! There are a ton of houses on that map that would make an interesting video!
Beautiful work! Very interesting see how you calculate population various cities!
every time i find one of these niche youtuber that do way too much research into these kind of subjects they always turn out to be dutch. we really are everywhere
Now this is setting up for one vid on gta san andreas.
Awesome video. Could you do Just Cause 4 and Kingdom Come Deliverance one day?
These videos are awesome. Would be cool if you also did gta 3, Vice city and San Andreas. Vice city atleast might be a bit easier as its much smaller.
When we needed him the most he came back
This is super cool. I’m gonna pick up GTA 4 again. It’s been a while
That one had to be a pain in the ass, well done and congratulations for still being able to stay outside a mental health facility.
gta 4 still have good graphics for a 2008 game im surprised
thry aged better than gta 5
Glad that you didn't go insane from this
really enjoying your channel at the moment bro keep it up, look forward t see your new idea you have
Hope you’re ready to count the population of Vice City… In 2025.
Bohan was the greatest for multiplayer games of TDM/DM/Turf War, it had the perfect size and layout.
Your videos and work are amazing!!
Nice banger! When GTA 6 drops after some time you should do a video about the population of the state of Leonida.
In the meantime, I would like you to do a video on the Population of Just Cause 4
watch dogs 2 population
It’s pretty crazy how much bigger in terms of population Liberty city is compared to Los Santos despite being a smaller map. In fact compared to the the real life ratio between New York and Los Angeles of about 2 to 1, it’s substantially higher than it should be.
6:47 i know you probably know what it's called, i do not want to be that guy..... but i will be that guy... that is the flatiron building.
as someone who lives in an American® City™ IRL, i can tell you firsthand - and this definitely won’t help your plight in counting the population level or GTA games - that quite a lot of skyscrapers that look like purely office buildings are not purely office buildings. a significant number of them are either purely residential, usually condos but sometimes apartments, or mixed use with some combination of office space, residential space, and / or a hotel taking up different segments of the building.
at any rate, you’ve got a new subscriber 👍
makes me happy to see your channel grow :D
It would be incredible if you did Cyberpunk’s Night City
The Statue of Happiness was ridiculous when I was 13. Now it could be a reality.
You should do a video on Spiderman 2
I really hope GTA VII is based in liberty city. I’m already looking forward to the 2037 release.
😂
In the next version of LC, it would be good to see the main island, be as big and dense as the real Manhattan. But I would love to see them really double down on the detail. Have all the neighbourhoods feel distinctive.
i feel like they already made the neighbourhoods distinct. i can almost always tell which area i’m in just by looking at it
@@Sqk. No not really, and I mean Manhattan, as in GTA 4 their version of Manhattan was very condense and generic. I don't mean the other boroughs in the game. Like in real world Manhattan, there is a difference between Soho and the West Village that I want to see captured in a GTA game.
@@mickanvonfootscraymarket5520 i think they likely did that because it represents thr vibe of the game. just like how tlad and tbogt have different lighting depending on their themes, for niko Liberty City is a very strange place and especially in the most busy areas packed with skyscrapers it must seem to all blur together, but that’s just my opinion. it could also be they wanted to represent a specific area of manhattan or didn’t have the space and/or time to fully flesh it out. i do agree though, a truly expansive LC with a much bigger map, and countryside like the scrapped upstate area for IV, would be great
GTA 4 was the tutorial. Night City will be the real nightmare
nahh no way, i just watched the gta 5 video from 8 months ago, went to see if you made one for gta 4 and you uploaded it literally yesterday.
Good shit bro. Well made, good quality
This is the most underrated channel ever i swear
Hey, I loved the video. You could do San Andreas next!
I’m literally a new viewer saw your gta5 video, subscribed and now another gta video!?? What a coincidence XD
Calling it now but this is probably gonna be the highest number of people the population series will reach. The only contender after this would be the even more skyscraper dense sleeping dogs
What about GTA San Andreas with three cities, many towns and countrysides...
@@gamexlogics5551not as much skyscrapers that have housing.
@@tomvlogs8463 yea but still it has way lot houses mansions and apartments
Night city☠️
I wonder how GTA 6 will fare. From the trailer Vice City looks huge and has a ton of skyscrapers and a skyline that rivals Liberty City.
7:05 the heck how well detailed the city is,am i watching gta 4 or SimCity 4
Hey, I love your population vids! Ever considered doing a population vid for an open world medieval game like Witcher 3 or Kingdom Come Deliverance? KCD would actually be simpler than a GTA, as the game's area is small and the buildings on the map are displayed very clearly.
I always asked myself this question, appreciate your work.
Bedankt.
Excellent video man, would be interested in seeing the new battle royale map for Warzone called Urzikstan.
watching this while eating a grilled cheese
cheemse
perfect😆😆😆
Off the radiator?
@@wheeljack210 mabey
Potverdikkie what a good video man
I love your way of talking! 😭
Lol for some reason I just started to watch your videos a couple of days ago wondering how the rdr map looks from above and how many people live their.. and their you go uploading gta4 while I was browsing gameplay of it lol. Have a nice day!
That "bada bing bada Donuts" has gotta be the best line in this video
Great job, we'd like to extend to you an offer at McKinsey
Oh f##k Its Manhattan! really got me 😂😂
GTA 4 always seemed so much bigger to me compared to GTA 5.
Lekker bezig man!
geez man im not about to go fact check you on this...
kudos for your dedication
Perfect Timing
GTA FUCKING 6 LETS GOOOOOO
I know doing this would be quite difficult considering the state of it in the games, but would it be possible for you to count the population of one of the fallout games? Of course assuming that when you find a building the population is counted based off of what it would have been before the war.
honestly would be difficult because buildings are uninhabited or whether you count characters such as raiders and such. estimated prewar population would be impossible dissapointingly. quite a large amount of buildings are leveled and its hard to grasp when your looking at a building torn in half.
Can’t wait to see Leonida’s population video in 2025!
Nice videos, i love this. +1 sub
Keep this series coming up!
Count the population of just cause 4 map
Its a good time to start making gta videos the most for new channels.
cant wait for the population of GTA 6
You hit a niche that nobody else satisfies. Brother, stick to this format and production quality and I believe you'll be looking at much more than just 10K subs soon lmao
I would love if you did a video like this for the Witcher 3!!!
1:46 i got startled i wasnt expecting that 😭
Imagine if this is how the government did a population count instead of how they do it
I literally only would want to buy gta 4 for the c5 corvette because i love that car and gta 4 does such a good job matching it
You didn't need to play through the story, you could have just played episodes from liberty city lol.
Do 3d universe GTA games next (possibly include their "stories" version too)
I’m out here high af eating some sour cream and onion Pringles watching a video about the population in a game, life is ok
It's ironic because queens and Brooklyn have million of people in them individually.
the guy himself has returned
5:11 You drew the border between Dukes and Broker wrong. The border isn’t along that highway, Broker still goes a bit north past that highway on the west side. Not that it matters for the total calculation, but still.
I dare you to do this with Night city. I'm convinced you will go insane. 🤣
Can you do Night City?
Do the population of Spider-Man 2
Well At least the soviet union solved homelessness. Sometimes copy-paste apartments are the quick and budget friendly way to do that.
6:44
Thats the DAILY BUGLE!!
Come on dawg.. how can you not know dis is the daily bugle
Jo would be nice if u could count the population of anywhatchdogs game.
Can’t wait till he does it for gta VI
Imagine walking into a house with two and a half people
No, that would not smell nice
Fact: Alderney is based on the state on New Jersey. (Mostly the cities of Newark New Jersey and Jersey City)
And somehow in the 3d Liberty City the manual says the population is 4 million.. I wish every GTA told you the population..
Watch dogs 1 population is a hard one
Its gow much better modern NYC looks than 2000s NYC. Hopefully GTA7 in 14 years is Liberty City and upstate.
Maybe Manhattan lol Brooklyn and the Bronx look horrible now
we waitin for gta 6 population
You are great dude!