@@williejohnson1732 given the russians didnt upgrade there doctrine and instead the officers at a tactical level are improvising. no lol. The russians need major reforms.
At the time this film was being made I was an infantry soldier on the front line in BAOR. It may have been a Cold War but it still felt pretty damn real and possible back then. Hind D and ZSU 23-4 were the stuff of nightmares!
As former German army, this is exactly the scenario I was trained for. Really fun to see this from a British perspective. This stirs up fond memories actually ;-)
@@AlexanderBlumenau - thank you for your service. I don't think the forces who made the detterrent possible hear that enoough! i was always curious about the Heer's approach to mechanisation and the tactics suitable for this defence. I suspect a lot of recconnaisance and sneaking around, but pitched battles? Was that reallly a consideration?
I was in the Canadian Army 1983 - 1990. I did a BATUS serial with a BOAR battle group in the late fall of 1984 so all this FNFAL, Carl G and Chieftain footage is awesome. Right after that I joined the battalion recce platoon and learned all those vehicles. This assessment of the capabilities of the Warpac APCs and Tanks stands up pretty well. But the UK used HESH rounds and none of those russian tanks did so kind of a flub there.
I understand your intense reaction to how awesome this channel is, but I think you meant to say that we UA-cam viewers don't deserve a channel. This awesome. I love old Cold War stuff. I play the combat mission on my computer with a group of like-minded fans. And I. Yes, I have more books than I can count on the matter
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the interesting part is, that it is a UK training video from the mid 1980´s but it only talks about stuff the sovjets used 10 years earlier, not the equipment and adapted tactics they used at the time of the video. So either their intelligence was extremely bad and lagging behind 7-10 years, or they were intentionally not showing the contemporary sovjet equipment to their own soldiers
I remember this I was in a Mechanised Infantry Battalion based in Minden. I started in the Anti-Tank platoon with Milan then moved to the Recce Platoon with Scimitiar. I still remember the Active Edge exercises, you never really knew if this was the real thing. Sometimes you never left the barracks on other occasions you moved to your deployment areas then moved to defensive positions which needed to be dug.
LOL its the bloody voice, the gaps inbetween talking, and the slight hum in the back. That is making me drift of to sleep. This time though I dont have some bloody NCO creeping up behind me to knock the back of my head,
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There is a book called "Battlegroup! The Lessons of the Unfought Battles of the Cold War" by Jim Storr about how NATO would have fought the WP during the 80s, written by a staff officer in the British Army on the Rhine at the time. It's not a counterfactual history (what if) but an assessment of the fighting qualities of the armies lined up along the Inter-German border and what might have happened if they came to blows based on doctrine, tactics, and equipment.
@@dobiem1Are you referring to Sir John Hackett and "The Third World War, August 1985" and "The Third World War, The Untold Story"? I have both on my bookshelf but it's been a while since I read them. If it's a different General Hackett, then no.
Although cited as a 1985 production, the Soviet vehicles were dated, and by the mid 80's most of the front line tanks were T72's, and had later versions of the BMP and BTR. The standard Soviet battle formation was a necessary evil that they couldn't avoid due to command and control and communication issues, and we fully exploited it. Our strategy relied on mobility, communications, and the ability to change strategy on the fly - something they couldn't. Terrain was their enemy, and our friend. Our calculated parity ratio was 6-1, meaning, in theory, we should have been able to defeat a Soviet force up to six times our own strength. I was mech infantry back then. And we came pretty damn close to going to war on more than one occasion.
Today you can't even defeat Russia in ukraine by providing unlimited aid (more than 2 times the Russian military budget) to ukraine, your knowledge of the Russian/Soviet tactics is almost zero
@@SnkHetz It's so wild to see this when maps are clearly available from so many sources, you can literally see russia's failings due to western weapons and training yet still you don't believe it. Do you believe in flat earth too?
@@SnkHetz Dont tell me that having a prolonged war with Ukraine was Russia's goal the entire time. They meant to have quick victory but the war is still going strong, what happened to superior russian tactics? Why haven't they taken Kiev? Why have the russians been going on this back and forth of gaining and losing territory. Ah yes it was all part of the plan to call a partial-mobilization for a "special military operation".
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The T-64 is mostly used by Ukraine since they split up, since Ukraine housed most of the relevant factories and workshops needed to produce and maintain them.
@@larsdejong7396you are correct and the Russians tried to take Kharkiv to get the T-64 Factory looted and disassembled to send its machinery back to Omsk T-80 factory T-14 T-90 T-72 factory Nizhny Tagil. However the Russians failed to take the city thanks to a Ukrainian counteroffensive in September 2022. For the Ukrainian military it would have been through this exact film by the Americans British Germans polish NATO Troops because they know that Russia will use soviet era strategy to invade Ukraine. That's why the Ukrainians are trained to use NATO tactics combined with legacy soviet-era equipment to stop the Russians
The principal issue for the Soviets was that to operate all these rather advanced pieces of battle kit with conscript soldiers, they had to adhere strictly to a set battle drill, and they trained in this drill, by rote. Junior leaders were not encouraged to deviate from the drill, in any way, and could only pass reports of changing battle conditions slowly up the chain of command. So Western doctrine developed initiative in small unit leadership, and empowered these leaders to make quick decisions in response to enemy actions. This broke into the slow response cycle of the Soviet command structure, and allowed our smaller and less numerous units to outmaneuver and outfight much larger forces. Once we had developed gear suited to this type of warfare, such as Abrams, Panther, and Challenger tanks, TOW and other ATGMs, Paladin and similar artillery systems, as well as APCs such as Bradley, it was clear that there was no way the Warsaw Pact could win a conventional land war in Central Europe. Since their entire society had been built on fighting such a war, enough decision makers in the Kremlin realizing this truth allowed for dramatic change in what was in fact a very brittle political system, resulting in the fall of the USSR, without a single nuke being fired.
By time when M1 Abrams start replacing M60 in masse (1983) Soviet forces reached peak their military capabilities. Somewhat collapse happened in next year and USSR, despite having modern equipment wasn't able to supply it's own army. By 1990 even deaths from starvation happened within Soviet army. They switched all funds to keep their missile arsenal which is still Russia's strategy. We even can see in Ukraine that almost only Russian equipment working properly is missiles. The airforce, supplies, most important, doctrine became even more degraded.
I don't think you appreciate the strengths of Soviet doctrine. While drill was more heavily relied upon, following the battle plan strictly allowed for a more rapid pace of operations. While one unit engaged, two others would simply bypass. Filtering into the rear areas was intended to destroy supply lines, headquarters, and enable deep operations.
@@michaelf7093 If you read on how the doctrine worked, you'll understand that's not really how it worked. Soviets considered warfare a science for a reason.
I miss the '80s; you knew who the bad guys were and especially who your allies were (well, except for the French, but we knew about them from the beginning).
Give it a rest the French are our NATO allies - the same allies that gave us immediate 100% support in 1982. The same allies that more recently offered to share use of an aircraft carrier whilst ours was being built.
Afghanistan wasn't the main focus for the Soviet Union, it was NATO. It makes sense that they would send less advanced equipment to Afghanistan and the more advanced equipment for a confrontation with the West
5:24 It can fire HESH and APDS, can it? I was always confused why these films - at that point in time when the vehicle was well understood - kept on having so many errors. There were other publications and films that got the details right. Very confusing if you're watching them and they all keep on saying slightly different things.
Having access to the internet is a marvelous thing for gathering information, in 1985 you might have some books avaiable and secret reports the details of which could not be fully divulged (the exact detail of a BMPs rounds in not really that important to an Infantryman anyway). Also being a British film i'm certain the relaying of general information to Troop is done with the consideration that the enemy will see this and that misinformation and red herrings are included to veil what is truely known.
@@nickwake5484 believe it's due to program being of british origin when mentioning HESH and APDS they are referring to HE fragmentation and APFSDS however, the most common british mbt of the time was the Chieftain which fires HESH and APDS which is why I think the speaker made that error
I struggle to see how a war like Warsaw Pact vs. NATO would be limited back then, refering to what's being said early in this video. Same goes for NATO/EU vs Russia now, in regards to Ukraine.
I always remember the beginning of these films 1 British Corp facing 3 Soviet armies. With air power and likely suprise, if we, NATO couldn't still a Soviet advance within the first 8 hours the NATO was committed to first use of tactical nuclear weapons.
It's interesting that they call the BMP-1 the "newest" soviet APC when in fact the BMP-2 had been introduced by this time, as well as the fact that they're IFVs (though this concept took longer to catch on in the west)
It might not have been officially confirmed, the update to the BMP-2 back then in 1985, at least not down to renamed. The next IFV in service not long after BMP, was the German Marder Which might well meet directly on the Battlefield in Ukraine.
Can someone tell me how the miniature models are moving across the map? Is it magnets underneath the terrain board or do they each have their own remote control? I really doubt that they would need a wire or something. It's not stop motion animation and I don't see any tracks for them to slide along. Somebody help
Interesting that Soviet documents claim that the BTR-60 and BMP-1 were being replaced with the 70 and 2 models respectively by this time, but the British army wasn’t too concerned with them.
Because soviet logistics were very poor. The t-64 was accepted in 1964, but in reality production only started as late as 1967. It only began to appear in Germany well after 1970. In the same vein, a less important combat vehicle like an APC will not have the same priority in its distribution, thus taking even longer. The new models still could not fire effectively on the move, and were also barely protected from heavy weapons, and were therefore little different against entrenched NATO units
It's good to have this retrospective into what our soldiers were told. I can safely say that if this was a part of their training they were being misled. I'm not 100% versed in NATO and Warsaw pact doctrine of the day, but this clip omits many weapons of the day along with aspects of warfare using those weapons. It portrays a complaint Soviet force with no air support and limited ISR. Fortunately we learned in the 90s that the Soviets had neither the means nor the will to attack western Europe. Sadly it appears that the same people that made this ridiculous film are at it again.
No, that's mostly due to their habit of storing ammunition outside of the carousel. Designs like the Leopard 2, with unprotected ammo stowage in the hull, have suffered the same fate in Turkish service.
Excellent vintage footage from what was a brutal reality for many people at the time. Only omission regarding the T-64, T-72 and BMP/BRDM was their unique feature of ejecting the crews on being hit by ATGM or mine and - very generously - preventing them from getting cold by also setting them on fire during their ballistic journey.
Thing about vehicles and machinery is they need to be maintained. All that money that was meant for maintenance went into the pockets of corrupt Russian generals and the results of that are showing in Ukraine.
These are the tactics we trained against in Hohenfels and Fort Irwin. It's been strange to watch the coverage of Ukraine and see no evidence of these Soviet-era steamroll tactics. I suspect that Russia has lost it's Regimental and Divisional staff expertise and can't coordinate effectively anymore. The Battalion Tactical Groups have all the integrated combat support organically and so no need to call higher for artillery or engineer support.
I’m guessing the Russians took such heavy casualties at the start of the Ukraine invasion, that the Russians are now being more cautious and trying to prevent further tank losses
Russia is not the soviet Union. Russia has lost a lot of military equipment and manpower. And with it being not classified as a war conscripts had limits on their use
Theres a good documentary on here about how the brits was gaining intelligence by sneaking around in 4x4's covered by diplomatic number plates and waiting at certain places near train tracks or on roads to see what vehicles was coming in on a exercise and be photographing the vehicles, also the same on ranges picking up duds and shrapnel to find out the composition of metals used, the story is really about how the soviets had heard about Chobham armour and designed their own sort, those square's we see now, all they did was went to a tank range and mouched about and they found one, either it was tore of by a tree or the sovies had changed it through damage and to lazy to cart the damaged one back with them and threw it away, the french and mericans was up to the same tricks aswell with spying and there was a big controversy when a merican soldier was shot and killed by a sentry and his pal took prisoner, the mericans tried going down the legal military route and said it was cold blooded murder, which, and im not disrapecting the sovies here, it probably was aswell, but the fact is the merican was creeping about inside the perimeter of a ammo depo with camera...inside the boundaries clearly marked by signs as a independent enquiry as well as a soviet one was done, this is how they got egg on their face, as after they shot that guy they video'd the arrest of his pal, but the poor devil who was killed had to lay there for a couple of days, and yes when done he was shipped back home quietly, burried quietly away from media glare..and noted as a training accident...
There’s actually a very good book called BRIXMIS which tells you all about the kind of sneaky things they got up. There was an agreement where both sides were allowed to send observers to watch each others exercises, and it was these observers that got up to all kinds of skullduggery in order to examine the opposition’s equipment.
Was deployed in Latvia within the NATO battlegroup in 2021. We sure had lots of “civilians” peeping around the training areas during exercises. You know the ones with cameras and buzzcuts
Интересно, когда американцы два месяца утюжили маленькую Югославию, какую тактику применяли. А когда на Японию сбросили несколько килотон. Дорогие товарищи Англичане и Американцы не переживайте, все вернется в свое время.
They all tore away from the Soviet Union the moment it started to collapse. Does that answer your question? My neighbor was in the Polish army during that time, and he said they always drilled to fight the Russians. Not NATO. Even then they knew who the real enemy was.
I have seen parts of this before. I was stationed in W. Germany from 85-87. This was the Army I was trained to fight. I was shocked at the total crap they had. Compared to the US stuff at that time, we would have wiped their butts... I was then, and am still now, of the opinion that Russian Army is feckless, and does not stand up to western systems. Ukraine is a great example.
yeah from 1985 onwards the balance started to shift, but still they had more (alot more) and often equal or better equipment than NATO. The UK primarily used Chieftain with 1960´s ammunition. Export T-72M´s showed that Chieftain was no real threat to them in the Irak-Iran War and Invasion of Kuwait. The french still used AMX-30B, many other partners still used Leopard 1, both had zero armor and only 105mm guns. The USA only started to introduced M1A1 with better turret armor and 120mm gun, 95% (around 1500) were still M1 initial versions with 660mm frontal armor and 105mm gun and large parts of the US army still used M60A1/A3. The germans had 1700-2000 Leopard 2´s, those were basicly the only MBT in NATO prior to 1980 that could go toe to toe with the sovjet MBT´s. These around 3500 M1´s, Leo2´s and Challenger 1´s were facing 25.000 sovjet T-64´s, T-72´s and T-80´s plus another 50.000 T-62´s and T-55´s vs 5000 Leopard 1, M60, AMX-30´s and Chieftains (all of those were already severely outdated at that point). The sovjets would just have steamrolled NATO if they wanted to.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Sounds like you think Soviet trivia mattered. In reality, lack of competent logistics and command and control wouldve doomed Soviet efforts
You're forgetting that the Soviets and Wapac forces in general, were far better trained and more capable back then. OPFOR kicked the shit out of almost every unit it faced in the first decade it existed, and US equipment had a very dubious reputation in the early 80's after Israeli and Indian combat experience.
@@drewschumann1 Given that Soviet doctrine called for a widespred use of chemicals and tactical nukes as the opening move for an invasion of the west, I doubt that NATO would have put up much of a fight. Wouldn't have even made it out of barracks. You're also ignoring the reality that they *were* competent back then - they trained as hard and as much as we did.
well, they were. The sovjets could easily outmatch NATO deployments in northern germany but also in other regions in a factor of 5:1. NATO was extremely bad equipped until the later 1980´s. The main MBT of the UK was still the Chieftain, main AP ammo of the UK was still APDS with not enough penetration to reliably penetrate a T-72B on ranges above 700m. Challenger was basicly the same, modern L23A1 APFSDS only started entering service in the UK at that point. The US was still using 105mm guns and the first batch of M1A1 with 120mm guns was entering service. M60A3 was still a large factor in US service. Germany had around 1700 Leopard 2A3´s with ammunition capable of doing the job on 2000m, and 1800 Leopard 1´s with barely adequate ammunition. France was still using AMX-30B´s with 105mm guns, basicly a french Leopard 1. NATO was not only drasticly outnumbered but also outmatched in respect to firepower of the individual vehicles and in most cases also armor protection. If there were no nuclear umbrellas, things would have turned out badly for NATO. Only the Leo2´s could really go toe to doe with the sovjet T-64B, T-72B and T-80´s, the M1 also had less armor than Leopard 2 plus only the 105mm and the Challenger 1 was only availible in very limited numbers and its gun and ammunition was severely outdated.
@@montevallomustang well, in the 1980´s there were several occasions where it almost escalated into an attack by the Warsaw Pact. Able Archer 1983 for example. They were capable of doing it. and the hardliners are always there, look at russia now.
@@brianpreval5602 People always seem to confuse the Warsaw Pact, Sovjet Union and Russia. Warsaw Pact/Treaty is the whole eastern block except Asia. Sovjet Union is Russia, Ukraine, Baltic States and Georgia. Russia is just the core nation of the sovjet Union. Russia is not the sovjet union, the sovjet union is not the warsaw pact. As comparison that is similar to saying the german federeral state of bavaria (roughly 1/4 of german GDP) is equal to the federal republic of germany (the german state) and also the same as european NATO.
I always think it's funny to see the exposed mechanisms and electrical wiring on old Soviet gear, look at how shitty all of it is made, to the point that most of it would fail inspection in any western Army, and then wonder how anyone could've believed that most of these vehicles and pieces of equipment weren't already functionally compromised in one way or another. Quantity truly was the one redeeming Soviet quality. I'd still love to own a surplus BRDM though.
Foolish weak milk drinking westernaboo, superior soviet technology leaves everything exposed for easy battle repair! If tank take bullet, fix in field, working again in minutes! DECADENT WESTERNERDS need entire maintenance companies to fix damage, and their troops are too addicted to iphone to repair anything! ...god this killed me to write. Satire aside, excellent point.
Russia's invasion of Ukraine showed us that they never changed those tactics, plus the slight benefit of not working equipment (thanks corruption). It showed us also that those 1919 tactics just don't work against a army that has recieved NATO training and equipment.
When you watch this you realise that our real national interest has never changed. So how did we end up with a hollowed out military almost incapable of fighting anybody? Our real enemy is still artillery and tank rich, we’ve thrown most of ours away and are stuck with semi obsolete kit. This is the price of being ruled by people who know no history and pander to the Americans.
Что ценного в этом ролике это уникальные кадры Кабула 1979 и 103 Гвардейской, ордена Ленина, ордена Боевого Красного знамени, ордена Кутузова воздушно-десантной дивизии.
How to stop a Russian attack dead in its tracks: 1) Wait for Red Army supply cockups to starve their own troops, or freeze them to death with no socks. 2) Allow sufficient time for at least half of unmaintained, outdated mechanized units to suffer catastrophic failure. Usually 2-3 weeks. 3) Sit quietly while Premier throws senior military leaders out of various windows. 4) Ignore continuous, obvious empty threats about nuclear Armageddon. Oh wait, that is the 2022 version, not 1985.
After the end of the Cold War it turned out that a high ranking West German civil servant at NATO HQ - who in fact was one of the very few people with access to the secure room where all NATO’s battle plans were kept - was actually a soviet spy. Thanks to him the soviets knew in advance the entire NATO battle plan including the exact wartime coordinates of every single NATO unit. Presumably the soviets would have immediately plastered the lot if war had broken out.
@@endjfcar Javelins may have been scarce, but TOWs have been shown to have a similar effect and would have been in production for over a decade by the time this was recorded. Not to mention with TOGS and IFCS, those upgraded chieftains would have a lot more fight in them then it would seem at first glance.
That means comparable to the weakest of nato's strength deficiency, meaning the weakest part of nato would be comparable to the weakest part of there attack...dosnt gleam nothing really apart from a strong attack from sovs would get past the weakest part of their defence...
Their tactics may look average in paper but the reality is that as soon as the first tank or BMP is blown away the Russians begin running like "chickens without a head" showing no cohesion at all, just like the Iron Maiden 80s song "🎶 run to the hills, run for Your life🎶, run to the hills🎶, run fooor Youuur liiiife!🎶☠☠😨😰😭😭😭. That's why after the first 5 yrs they rarely patrolled outside their bases, Russian loses 14,400 killed and 53,700+ wounded in 9-10 yrs, while in 20 yrs US loses were at 2,420 killed and 20,713 wounded in 20 yrs. This was Russian's Viet-Nam and they paid dearly from their mistake of underestimating the Northern Alliance,(Mujahadeem). The Russian tried a show of force, why deployed anti-air defenses if the Afghans didn't have any "flying horses" and in the tanks vs horses horses prevailed. Shortly after the USSR went bankrupted and collapsed. Now they seem to have bitten more than they can chew in Ukraine. Russians fooled the entire world making believe they were the 2nd Superpower for 70+ yrs but it was simply a bluff and now they're the 2nd Superpower inside Ukraine.
@@matthewjones39; Russia vs Afghanistan Sir. Tactics, Logistics, Military Doctrine, Casualties sustained in 10 years in Afghanistan. Comparing it with our Tactics, Logistics, Military Doctrine and training and comparing the so called "Russian Military Machine" and how they had so much success in the "Special Military Operation" that was going to be over in 72 - 96 hours.
British Army training film on how to fight the Soviet Motorized Rifle Battalion...taking cues from recent combat reports in the Soviet-Afghan War.
Do u think they would make a update video after the Russians Ukraine conflict?
@@williejohnson1732 not reall
@@williejohnson1732 given the russians didnt upgrade there doctrine and instead the officers at a tactical level are improvising. no lol. The russians need major reforms.
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At the time this film was being made I was an infantry soldier on the front line in BAOR. It may have been a Cold War but it still felt pretty damn real and possible back then.
Hind D and ZSU 23-4 were the stuff of nightmares!
I was a gunner! I'm sure we trod the same turf! I was in a Javelin battery (AD not AT), specific task to splash the Hind.
I was in the AAC and flew as an observer in Gazelles and knew how devastating the ZSU 23-4 could be glad the cold war never turned hot.
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As former German army, this is exactly the scenario I was trained for. Really fun to see this from a British perspective. This stirs up fond memories actually ;-)
East or West? 😂
@@Eisernkreuz West ;-)
@@AlexanderBlumenau - thank you for your service. I don't think the forces who made the detterrent possible hear that enoough!
i was always curious about the Heer's approach to mechanisation and the tactics suitable for this defence. I suspect a lot of recconnaisance and sneaking around, but pitched battles? Was that reallly a consideration?
@@Eisernkreuzmy first thought also lol
I was in the Canadian Army 1983 - 1990. I did a BATUS serial with a BOAR battle group in the late fall of 1984 so all this FNFAL, Carl G and Chieftain footage is awesome. Right after that I joined the battalion recce platoon and learned all those vehicles. This assessment of the capabilities of the Warpac APCs and Tanks stands up pretty well. But the UK used HESH rounds and none of those russian tanks did so kind of a flub there.
I remember BATUS , that was a good jolly
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I found this channel the other day, it is absolutely brilliant!
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This channel has no right to exist. Absolutely amazing.
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I understand your intense reaction to how awesome this channel is, but I think you meant to say that we UA-cam viewers don't deserve a channel. This awesome. I love old Cold War stuff. I play the combat mission on my computer with a group of like-minded fans. And I. Yes, I have more books than I can count on the matter
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Excellent training video. Another fine offering from a fine channel.
the interesting part is, that it is a UK training video from the mid 1980´s but it only talks about stuff the sovjets used 10 years earlier, not the equipment and adapted tactics they used at the time of the video.
So either their intelligence was extremely bad and lagging behind 7-10 years, or they were intentionally not showing the contemporary sovjet equipment to their own soldiers
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I watched that in 1985. Feeling old man!!
Same detail 😂😂
remember seeing these vids in late 80's early 90's.....
thanks for the memory jogger
I remember this I was in a Mechanised Infantry Battalion based in Minden. I started in the Anti-Tank platoon with Milan then moved to the Recce Platoon with Scimitiar. I still remember the Active Edge exercises, you never really knew if this was the real thing. Sometimes you never left the barracks on other occasions you moved to your deployment areas then moved to defensive positions which needed to be dug.
LOL its the bloody voice, the gaps inbetween talking, and the slight hum in the back. That is making me drift of to sleep. This time though I dont have some bloody NCO creeping up behind me to knock the back of my head,
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The nonchalancy of the brit oficers always gets a smile on my face. Never change, britbongs
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sorry to disappoint but that culture is long since dead
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@@youtubeyyolhdusn8771 It is sad indeed. It's always fun to look with nostalgia on the cold war times
Hasn't changed today :)
"The troops inside have the added discomfort of sitting on top of the ammunition storage space." 8:27
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There is a book called "Battlegroup! The Lessons of the Unfought Battles of the Cold War" by Jim Storr about how NATO would have fought the WP during the 80s, written by a staff officer in the British Army on the Rhine at the time. It's not a counterfactual history (what if) but an assessment of the fighting qualities of the armies lined up along the Inter-German border and what might have happened if they came to blows based on doctrine, tactics, and equipment.
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Did you manage to get hold of a book written by General Hacket?
A bit of light reading, covering the same scenarion and the wider war.
@@dobiem1Are you referring to Sir John Hackett and "The Third World War, August 1985" and "The Third World War, The Untold Story"? I have both on my bookshelf but it's been a while since I read them. If it's a different General Hackett, then no.
Although cited as a 1985 production, the Soviet vehicles were dated, and by the mid 80's most of the front line tanks were T72's, and had later versions of the BMP and BTR. The standard Soviet battle formation was a necessary evil that they couldn't avoid due to command and control and communication issues, and we fully exploited it. Our strategy relied on mobility, communications, and the ability to change strategy on the fly - something they couldn't. Terrain was their enemy, and our friend. Our calculated parity ratio was 6-1, meaning, in theory, we should have been able to defeat a Soviet force up to six times our own strength. I was mech infantry back then. And we came pretty damn close to going to war on more than one occasion.
Today you can't even defeat Russia in ukraine by providing unlimited aid (more than 2 times the Russian military budget) to ukraine, your knowledge of the Russian/Soviet tactics is almost zero
@@SnkHetz It's so wild to see this when maps are clearly available from so many sources, you can literally see russia's failings due to western weapons and training yet still you don't believe it.
Do you believe in flat earth too?
@@SnkHetz Dont tell me that having a prolonged war with Ukraine was Russia's goal the entire time. They meant to have quick victory but the war is still going strong, what happened to superior russian tactics? Why haven't they taken Kiev? Why have the russians been going on this back and forth of gaining and losing territory. Ah yes it was all part of the plan to call a partial-mobilization for a "special military operation".
@@Jay-vt1mw where Russia is failing?
@@SnkHetz Where is Russia succeeding?
Brings back a few memories.
80s/90s tactical drip…BDUs, M16s, woodland paint
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Another fantastic documentary shared by an excellence( Mike Guardia) channel ...it was an informative documentary about Soviet machizied battalion organized by Soviet military leaders for (suspected) attacked British Corp.on west Germany 🇩🇪 border ...thank you for sharing
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The T-64 was made with 1970’s tech. It’s their second line tank now.
The T-64 is mostly used by Ukraine since they split up, since Ukraine housed most of the relevant factories and workshops needed to produce and maintain them.
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@@larsdejong7396you are correct and the Russians tried to take Kharkiv to get the T-64 Factory looted and disassembled to send its machinery back to Omsk T-80 factory T-14 T-90 T-72 factory Nizhny Tagil. However the Russians failed to take the city thanks to a Ukrainian counteroffensive in September 2022. For the Ukrainian military it would have been through this exact film by the Americans British Germans polish NATO Troops because they know that Russia will use soviet era strategy to invade Ukraine. That's why the Ukrainians are trained to use NATO tactics combined with legacy soviet-era equipment to stop the Russians
Feels like the 80's again...
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The principal issue for the Soviets was that to operate all these rather advanced pieces of battle kit with conscript soldiers, they had to adhere strictly to a set battle drill, and they trained in this drill, by rote. Junior leaders were not encouraged to deviate from the drill, in any way, and could only pass reports of changing battle conditions slowly up the chain of command.
So Western doctrine developed initiative in small unit leadership, and empowered these leaders to make quick decisions in response to enemy actions. This broke into the slow response cycle of the Soviet command structure, and allowed our smaller and less numerous units to outmaneuver and outfight much larger forces. Once we had developed gear suited to this type of warfare, such as Abrams, Panther, and Challenger tanks, TOW and other ATGMs, Paladin and similar artillery systems, as well as APCs such as Bradley, it was clear that there was no way the Warsaw Pact could win a conventional land war in Central Europe. Since their entire society had been built on fighting such a war, enough decision makers in the Kremlin realizing this truth allowed for dramatic change in what was in fact a very brittle political system, resulting in the fall of the USSR, without a single nuke being fired.
By time when M1 Abrams start replacing M60 in masse (1983) Soviet forces reached peak their military capabilities. Somewhat collapse happened in next year and USSR, despite having modern equipment wasn't able to supply it's own army. By 1990 even deaths from starvation happened within Soviet army.
They switched all funds to keep their missile arsenal which is still Russia's strategy. We even can see in Ukraine that almost only Russian equipment working properly is missiles.
The airforce, supplies, most important, doctrine became even more degraded.
I don't think you appreciate the strengths of Soviet doctrine. While drill was more heavily relied upon, following the battle plan strictly allowed for a more rapid pace of operations. While one unit engaged, two others would simply bypass. Filtering into the rear areas was intended to destroy supply lines, headquarters, and enable deep operations.
@Roller Coaster into Giant Domo it works, until the other side does something unanticipated.
@@michaelf7093 If you read on how the doctrine worked, you'll understand that's not really how it worked. Soviets considered warfare a science for a reason.
I think there may have been other factors in the collapse of the USSR, beyond a Soviet realisation of more flexibility in Western armies.
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I miss the '80s; you knew who the bad guys were and especially who your allies were (well, except for the French, but we knew about them from the beginning).
Give it a rest the French are our NATO allies - the same allies that gave us immediate 100% support in 1982. The same allies that more recently offered to share use of an aircraft carrier whilst ours was being built.
We still know who the bad guys are, Russia.
the bad guys are all the same. the uncertainty is their work.
Bad guy still the same. We think they changed but they didn't.
This is the world view of a smooth brain.
Was the video made in 1985? The lack of Btr 70, T-80 or Bmp 2 is interesting for the 3rd shock army
must have been hidden from the west too well
Afghanistan wasn't the main focus for the Soviet Union, it was NATO. It makes sense that they would send less advanced equipment to Afghanistan and the more advanced equipment for a confrontation with the West
@@jasper8291 did you watch the video?
News report at the start seems to date it to early 80s.
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A few memories came back watching this, happy days.
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5:24 It can fire HESH and APDS, can it? I was always confused why these films - at that point in time when the vehicle was well understood - kept on having so many errors. There were other publications and films that got the details right. Very confusing if you're watching them and they all keep on saying slightly different things.
Having access to the internet is a marvelous thing for gathering information, in 1985 you might have some books avaiable and secret reports the details of which could not be fully divulged (the exact detail of a BMPs rounds in not really that important to an Infantryman anyway).
Also being a British film i'm certain the relaying of general information to Troop is done with the consideration that the enemy will see this and that misinformation and red herrings are included to veil what is truely known.
@@nickwake5484 believe it's due to program being of british origin when mentioning HESH and APDS they are referring to HE fragmentation and APFSDS however, the most common british mbt of the time was the Chieftain which fires HESH and APDS which is why I think the speaker made that error
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I struggle to see how a war like Warsaw Pact vs. NATO would be limited back then, refering to what's being said early in this video. Same goes for NATO/EU vs Russia now, in regards to Ukraine.
I always remember the beginning of these films 1 British Corp facing 3 Soviet armies. With air power and likely suprise, if we, NATO couldn't still a Soviet advance within the first 8 hours the NATO was committed to first use of tactical nuclear weapons.
It's interesting that they call the BMP-1 the "newest" soviet APC when in fact the BMP-2 had been introduced by this time, as well as the fact that they're IFVs (though this concept took longer to catch on in the west)
It might not have been officially confirmed, the update to the BMP-2 back then in 1985, at least not down to renamed.
The next IFV in service not long after BMP, was the German Marder
Which might well meet directly on the Battlefield in Ukraine.
Hindsight and the internets are wonderous things...
The concept of an ifv came from the west.
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they are playing Flames of War at 9:30
Can someone tell me how the miniature models are moving across the map? Is it magnets underneath the terrain board or do they each have their own remote control? I really doubt that they would need a wire or something. It's not stop motion animation and I don't see any tracks for them to slide along. Somebody help
Active Edge kit is packed all the time. Exercise, Exercise all the time I was in BAOR. It was constant. Little time off. When we did we partied.
This is making this 2472#### feel old
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Applause for the good-looking camo on the Sagger vehicle.
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Interesting that Soviet documents claim that the BTR-60 and BMP-1 were being replaced with the 70 and 2 models respectively by this time, but the British army wasn’t too concerned with them.
Because soviet logistics were very poor. The t-64 was accepted in 1964, but in reality production only started as late as 1967. It only began to appear in Germany well after 1970. In the same vein, a less important combat vehicle like an APC will not have the same priority in its distribution, thus taking even longer.
The new models still could not fire effectively on the move, and were also barely protected from heavy weapons, and were therefore little different against entrenched NATO units
Absolutely correct.
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It’s also a great game.
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A timely reminder of the danger of opportunistic attacks by Angela Rippon.
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13:11 the only weapon I respect in the video: Carl Gustaf 8.4 cm recoilless rifle
Respect your enemy
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@@joshuarodriguez3025 we are discussing the Cold War and Russians were atheists back then. So you are 50 years late.
My god what a bloodbath it would have been.
The Soviets would have died by the bushel basket. They knew it, which is why they never attacked.
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The tank on the thumbnail is the Chieftain Mk.6.
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It's good to have this retrospective into what our soldiers were told. I can safely say that if this was a part of their training they were being misled. I'm not 100% versed in NATO and Warsaw pact doctrine of the day, but this clip omits many weapons of the day along with aspects of warfare using those weapons.
It portrays a complaint Soviet force with no air support and limited ISR. Fortunately we learned in the 90s that the Soviets had neither the means nor the will to attack western Europe. Sadly it appears that the same people that made this ridiculous film are at it again.
The real fight was to stay awake during this video
Russian tank designs usually have the crew sitting on the ammo, which is why the turrets fly off when hit.
Nah. It is because the turrets are not bolted down to speed up maintenance. They can pull a turret off in minutes.
No, that's mostly due to their habit of storing ammunition outside of the carousel.
Designs like the Leopard 2, with unprotected ammo stowage in the hull, have suffered the same fate in Turkish service.
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its the Russian ejector seat
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Am not ex-services, but that sounds like a bollocking-administering voice to me.
Excellent vintage footage from what was a brutal reality for many people at the time. Only omission regarding the T-64, T-72 and BMP/BRDM was their unique feature of ejecting the crews on being hit by ATGM or mine and - very generously - preventing them from getting cold by also setting them on fire during their ballistic journey.
There may be trouble ahead!
يبدو أن إستقلاليتي في التفكير لا تعجب أي إنسان على وجه الأرض فقط لأني حر وأرفض التبعية
These olde news casts with English people make me think it’s the first half of Willy Wonka
My Enemy or foe. Joined up in 85. I Hated but respected the Soviets.
hey, I know that vehicle. Think it was blown-up in Ukraine last week. 😆 🤣 😂
It even had the same tires that it came with new from the factory! 🤣
Thing about vehicles and machinery is they need to be maintained. All that money that was meant for maintenance went into the pockets of corrupt Russian generals and the results of that are showing in Ukraine.
All the tax money that could've gone into keeping their APC's and IFV's floatable went into floating some yachts.
As an American, I hope your house gets drone striked.
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Pray
I miss the old news.
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These are the tactics we trained against in Hohenfels and Fort Irwin. It's been strange to watch the coverage of Ukraine and see no evidence of these Soviet-era steamroll tactics. I suspect that Russia has lost it's Regimental and Divisional staff expertise and can't coordinate effectively anymore. The Battalion Tactical Groups have all the integrated combat support organically and so no need to call higher for artillery or engineer support.
I’m guessing the Russians took such heavy casualties at the start of the Ukraine invasion, that the Russians are now being more cautious and trying to prevent further tank losses
Russia is not the soviet Union. Russia has lost a lot of military equipment and manpower. And with it being not classified as a war conscripts had limits on their use
Soviets were no joke, any fight with them woulda hurt bad.
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Theres a good documentary on here about how the brits was gaining intelligence by sneaking around in 4x4's covered by diplomatic number plates and waiting at certain places near train tracks or on roads to see what vehicles was coming in on a exercise and be photographing the vehicles, also the same on ranges picking up duds and shrapnel to find out the composition of metals used, the story is really about how the soviets had heard about Chobham armour and designed their own sort, those square's we see now, all they did was went to a tank range and mouched about and they found one, either it was tore of by a tree or the sovies had changed it through damage and to lazy to cart the damaged one back with them and threw it away, the french and mericans was up to the same tricks aswell with spying and there was a big controversy when a merican soldier was shot and killed by a sentry and his pal took prisoner, the mericans tried going down the legal military route and said it was cold blooded murder, which, and im not disrapecting the sovies here, it probably was aswell, but the fact is the merican was creeping about inside the perimeter of a ammo depo with camera...inside the boundaries clearly marked by signs as a independent enquiry as well as a soviet one was done, this is how they got egg on their face, as after they shot that guy they video'd the arrest of his pal, but the poor devil who was killed had to lay there for a couple of days, and yes when done he was shipped back home quietly, burried quietly away from media glare..and noted as a training accident...
BRIXMIS
There’s actually a very good book called BRIXMIS which tells you all about the kind of sneaky things they got up. There was an agreement where both sides were allowed to send observers to watch each others exercises, and it was these observers that got up to all kinds of skullduggery in order to examine the opposition’s equipment.
Was deployed in Latvia within the NATO battlegroup in 2021. We sure had lots of “civilians” peeping around the training areas during exercises. You know the ones with cameras and buzzcuts
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You're overthinking, the Orcs are only good on paper.
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Интересно, когда американцы два месяца утюжили маленькую Югославию, какую тактику применяли. А когда на Японию сбросили несколько килотон. Дорогие товарищи Англичане и Американцы не переживайте, все вернется в свое время.
I wonder how well the Warsaw Pact forces would have supported the Soviets? Could they be trusted?
They all tore away from the Soviet Union the moment it started to collapse. Does that answer your question? My neighbor was in the Polish army during that time, and he said they always drilled to fight the Russians. Not NATO. Even then they knew who the real enemy was.
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I have seen parts of this before. I was stationed in W. Germany from 85-87. This was the Army I was trained to fight. I was shocked at the total crap they had. Compared to the US stuff at that time, we would have wiped their butts...
I was then, and am still now, of the opinion that Russian Army is feckless, and does not stand up to western systems.
Ukraine is a great example.
yeah from 1985 onwards the balance started to shift, but still they had more (alot more) and often equal or better equipment than NATO.
The UK primarily used Chieftain with 1960´s ammunition. Export T-72M´s showed that Chieftain was no real threat to them in the Irak-Iran War and Invasion of Kuwait.
The french still used AMX-30B, many other partners still used Leopard 1, both had zero armor and only 105mm guns.
The USA only started to introduced M1A1 with better turret armor and 120mm gun, 95% (around 1500) were still M1 initial versions with 660mm frontal armor and 105mm gun and large parts of the US army still used M60A1/A3.
The germans had 1700-2000 Leopard 2´s, those were basicly the only MBT in NATO prior to 1980 that could go toe to toe with the sovjet MBT´s.
These around 3500 M1´s, Leo2´s and Challenger 1´s were facing 25.000 sovjet T-64´s, T-72´s and T-80´s plus another 50.000 T-62´s and T-55´s vs 5000 Leopard 1, M60, AMX-30´s and Chieftains (all of those were already severely outdated at that point).
The sovjets would just have steamrolled NATO if they wanted to.
@@zhufortheimpaler4041 Sounds like you think Soviet trivia mattered. In reality, lack of competent logistics and command and control wouldve doomed Soviet efforts
@@drewschumann1 it would have been sufficient to push up to the Rhein, that is what they aimed for
You're forgetting that the Soviets and Wapac forces in general, were far better trained and more capable back then. OPFOR kicked the shit out of almost every unit it faced in the first decade it existed, and US equipment had a very dubious reputation in the early 80's after Israeli and Indian combat experience.
@@drewschumann1 Given that Soviet doctrine called for a widespred use of chemicals and tactical nukes as the opening move for an invasion of the west, I doubt that NATO would have put up much of a fight. Wouldn't have even made it out of barracks. You're also ignoring the reality that they *were* competent back then - they trained as hard and as much as we did.
I dont think by the mid 80s the soviets were in a position to invade any nato territory.
well, they were.
The sovjets could easily outmatch NATO deployments in northern germany but also in other regions in a factor of 5:1.
NATO was extremely bad equipped until the later 1980´s.
The main MBT of the UK was still the Chieftain, main AP ammo of the UK was still APDS with not enough penetration to reliably penetrate a T-72B on ranges above 700m. Challenger was basicly the same, modern L23A1 APFSDS only started entering service in the UK at that point.
The US was still using 105mm guns and the first batch of M1A1 with 120mm guns was entering service. M60A3 was still a large factor in US service.
Germany had around 1700 Leopard 2A3´s with ammunition capable of doing the job on 2000m, and 1800 Leopard 1´s with barely adequate ammunition.
France was still using AMX-30B´s with 105mm guns, basicly a french Leopard 1.
NATO was not only drasticly outnumbered but also outmatched in respect to firepower of the individual vehicles and in most cases also armor protection.
If there were no nuclear umbrellas, things would have turned out badly for NATO.
Only the Leo2´s could really go toe to doe with the sovjet T-64B, T-72B and T-80´s, the M1 also had less armor than Leopard 2 plus only the 105mm and the Challenger 1 was only availible in very limited numbers and its gun and ammunition was severely outdated.
@Zhufor TheImpaler 🤣 I was thinking politically and financially not which guns where on the tanks
@@montevallomustang well, in the 1980´s there were several occasions where it almost escalated into an attack by the Warsaw Pact.
Able Archer 1983 for example.
They were capable of doing it.
and the hardliners are always there, look at russia now.
they aren't now , look what's happened to them!
@@brianpreval5602 People always seem to confuse the Warsaw Pact, Sovjet Union and Russia.
Warsaw Pact/Treaty is the whole eastern block except Asia.
Sovjet Union is Russia, Ukraine, Baltic States and Georgia.
Russia is just the core nation of the sovjet Union.
Russia is not the sovjet union, the sovjet union is not the warsaw pact.
As comparison that is similar to saying the german federeral state of bavaria (roughly 1/4 of german GDP) is equal to the federal republic of germany (the german state) and also the same as european NATO.
Mt God how have thing changed. All our training made the Soviets 10 ft giants. Look at them now
You think the West is anything like as powerful as it was?
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Putin is deluded enough to think the same now, eventhough the Russian army has been fought to a standstill in Ukraine.
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So relevant to today.
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Somebody should tell the reporter how to fight these eyeliners, like Jesus Christ
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Wow, this should come in useful in Ukraine seeing as how virtually nothing has changed in the Russian army since 1985.
Everything has changed in the Russian Army except for the corruption.
I always think it's funny to see the exposed mechanisms and electrical wiring on old Soviet gear, look at how shitty all of it is made, to the point that most of it would fail inspection in any western Army, and then wonder how anyone could've believed that most of these vehicles and pieces of equipment weren't already functionally compromised in one way or another. Quantity truly was the one redeeming Soviet quality. I'd still love to own a surplus BRDM though.
Foolish weak milk drinking westernaboo, superior soviet technology leaves everything exposed for easy battle repair! If tank take bullet, fix in field, working again in minutes! DECADENT WESTERNERDS need entire maintenance companies to fix damage, and their troops are too addicted to iphone to repair anything!
...god this killed me to write. Satire aside, excellent point.
Motorized not mechanized
Motorized is trucks. Mechanized is APCs and IFVs.
@@matthewjones39 For the soviets, Motorized is APCs.
@@therednapoleon8695 Didn’t know that, my bad
I remember this 😂
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Kinda irks me how they said that the T-64 shoots APDS and HEAT, not APFSDS or HE-Frag.
limited western intelligence at the time
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How to fight russian BTGs (2023) incoming:
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jolly good WW3
Why does he keep saying HESH? the soviets never had anything like HESH
Russia's invasion of Ukraine showed us that they never changed those tactics, plus the slight benefit of not working equipment (thanks corruption).
It showed us also that those 1919 tactics just don't work against a army that has recieved NATO training and equipment.
When you watch this you realise that our real national interest has never changed. So how did we end up with a hollowed out military almost incapable of fighting anybody? Our real enemy is still artillery and tank rich, we’ve thrown most of ours away and are stuck with semi obsolete kit. This is the price of being ruled by people who know no history and pander to the Americans.
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You know all we’ve sent is the outdated stuff, right?
The middle east seems to have forgiven russia very quickly. Very gulable
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The British Army was about as well-prepared as anyone who has now glanced at a Wikipedia entry.
Что ценного в этом ролике это уникальные кадры Кабула 1979 и 103 Гвардейской, ордена Ленина, ордена Боевого Красного знамени, ордена Кутузова воздушно-десантной дивизии.
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How to stop a Russian attack dead in its tracks:
1) Wait for Red Army supply cockups to starve their own troops, or freeze them to death with no socks.
2) Allow sufficient time for at least half of unmaintained, outdated mechanized units to suffer catastrophic failure. Usually 2-3 weeks.
3) Sit quietly while Premier throws senior military leaders out of various windows.
4) Ignore continuous, obvious empty threats about nuclear Armageddon.
Oh wait, that is the 2022 version, not 1985.
After the end of the Cold War it turned out that a high ranking West German civil servant at NATO HQ - who in fact was one of the very few people with access to the secure room where all NATO’s battle plans were kept - was actually a soviet spy. Thanks to him the soviets knew in advance the entire NATO battle plan including the exact wartime coordinates of every single NATO unit. Presumably the soviets would have immediately plastered the lot if war had broken out.
Rainer Rupp?
@@lohengrin4009Yeah, I think that’s him
Apparently, you just needed Ukrainians.
Ukraine was part of the USSR genius.
@matthewjones39
How many tanks have the Ukrainians destroyed?
😀
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And is responsible for destroying most of Russia's operational main battle tanks. 😁👍
@@danboyd2725 Do you think the USSR still exists?
@@matthewjones39 It sure does in Putin's black heart.
TLDR tactical nuclear weapons.
Roads and bridges destroyed by NATO's deep airstrikes plus the Russians flag men taken out by sf. Would of been a slaughter.
Lol just do it instead of coping on UA-cam ahahahah
@@SnkHetz you had a can?
@@SnakePliskin762 your NATO LGBTQ army is way less combat worthy than the ukrainian army
There is no way the russian army was ever this well equipped judging by how badly things went in the Ukraine…
Imagine comparing Russia with the USSR
@@happy-wot-blitzdon’t have to imagine it, because the Ruskies constantly do it themselves 😉
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It absolutely was particularly in 20 Divisions that made up the Group of Soviet Forces in Germany (GSFG)
Easier than you can thing....only need 3 things....Javelins...even more Javelins...and let them cross a river...
Well you didn't have them in great number unfortunately. It's also british army. Good luck with your Chieftains!
@@endjfcar Javelins may have been scarce, but TOWs have been shown to have a similar effect and would have been in production for over a decade by the time this was recorded.
Not to mention with TOGS and IFCS, those upgraded chieftains would have a lot more fight in them then it would seem at first glance.
By throwing rocks at them
Ruthless exploitation of weakness' .....yes. do that.
Just fly fpv drones at them
In the 80s?
@@matthewjones39 it's working in Ukraine 😂
@@samholdsworth420 I think you might be a little special.
@@matthewjones39 Biden 24!
now : shaped charge drone
LOL a "strength deficiency" .... in common parlance known as a weakness...
That means comparable to the weakest of nato's strength deficiency, meaning the weakest part of nato would be comparable to the weakest part of there attack...dosnt gleam nothing really apart from a strong attack from sovs would get past the weakest part of their defence...
@@wor53lg50 I do not know what you are speculating on,but that is not what is said in the clip.
@@brownmold yes it did, right at the end..
@@wor53lg50 no. Listen again and then read what you wrote.
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How to fight the Soviet mechanised battalion:
Step 1 - Survive nuclear Armageddon
"Hur dur nuclear doomsday I'm really smart"
Their tactics may look average in paper but the reality is that as soon as the first tank or BMP is blown away the Russians begin running like "chickens without a head" showing no cohesion at all, just like the Iron Maiden 80s song "🎶 run to the hills, run for Your life🎶, run to the hills🎶, run fooor Youuur liiiife!🎶☠☠😨😰😭😭😭. That's why after the first 5 yrs they rarely patrolled outside their bases, Russian loses 14,400 killed and 53,700+ wounded in 9-10 yrs, while in 20 yrs US loses were at 2,420 killed and 20,713 wounded in 20 yrs. This was Russian's Viet-Nam and they paid dearly from their mistake of underestimating the Northern Alliance,(Mujahadeem). The Russian tried a show of force, why deployed anti-air defenses if the Afghans didn't have any "flying horses" and in the tanks vs horses horses prevailed. Shortly after the USSR went bankrupted and collapsed. Now they seem to have bitten more than they can chew in Ukraine. Russians fooled the entire world making believe they were the 2nd Superpower for 70+ yrs but it was simply a bluff and now they're the 2nd Superpower inside Ukraine.
What are you talking about?
@@matthewjones39; Russia vs Afghanistan Sir. Tactics, Logistics, Military Doctrine, Casualties sustained in 10 years in Afghanistan.
Comparing it with our Tactics, Logistics, Military Doctrine and training and comparing the so called "Russian Military Machine" and how they had so much success in the "Special Military Operation" that was going to be over in 72 - 96 hours.
@@gruntusmc8922 Please give a source for who said it would be over in 72-96 hours, because it wasn’t any Russian.
The best way to stop the third army is Ukraine it turns out.