Even stranger how they have enough asphalt to make speed bumps, but not enough to fill in the pot holes. I always say that we used to drive on the left of the road, now we just drive on what's left of the road.
Most of us in Wales are against this madness. Ok around schools but blanket 20 is ridiculous. Maybe Wales will wake up and get rid of Welsh Labour and their partners Plaid Cymru.
Simple. Do something about it. They work for us, voted in by us. If they are not doing our bidding, get them replaced. Ignore the current idiots, if you want it done do it yourself, write down what you would like and how you would do it and get other to back you. Then run it yourself. This is what we need to do. Labour and the Conservatives have now become irrelevant.
No chance of that with the silly devils who always vote Labour because "grand-dad did". And now children have the vote so that's the end. It really is.
@@mell3109 someone was saying how she sometimes gets overtaken by cyclists !! This is the down side to devolution. The population of Wales is under 3.5 million. Not many cars either. This is ideology. Mark Drakeford and the clowns that say ' Twenty is plenty' are trying to make driving such a miserable experience people decide to walk 5 miles or cycle 20 and maybe sell the car. They need certifying -all of them. these are people with power taking the piss...
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@@covertcounsellor6797 My maths is good. This change only affects what were 30 mph zones where the AVERAGE speed is less than 30. For a journey of 2 miles in a 20 zone it will add between 10 and 15 seconds.
No point in worrying about it. This Country doesn't have a future, so you may as well get used to it. Just one thing though, when your Grandchildren ask you in the future why it is they don't have a future remember to tell them that the reason for that is that you kept voting for the same old corrupt political parties because you were too thick to employ any serious critical thinking.
And maybe a good idea to teach not only kids but some adults the green cross code and put responsibility on themselves instead of putting it on road users all the time !
@@tombartram7384 At least then - There was non of this woke bull or gay pride, gender crap. Perhaps if kids got off there phones and made dens they might actually learn something of value instead of relying on 'tech'
I think politicians in this country will get a shock soon, when wealthy upwardly mobile people who contribute lots of tax, start to emigrate due to the poor quality of life the UK authorities wish to provide their citizens, and those leaving will be replaced with people from all over the world with their begging bowls out wanting benefits.
Currently waiting for my visa to arrive to enable me to stop paying tax on a 6 figure salary in the U.K. to go and spend my life savings, equity from my UK house, my private pension, and when I am old enough, my state pension in a less woke country. Good luck trying to change the woke, green UK political norm, I don't see it happening any time soon given the major parties. I am gone and probably a bit sunburned.
Most people don't care, including myself. It's barely going to make any difference because people don't travel for long distances in 30mph zones. We use dual carriageways, motorways and other roads with speed limits greater than 30mph.
It's the death knell for Welsh tourism, who'd spend half of their holiday crawling along at 20mph to reach their destination and then the other half crawling along at the same speed to escape the place and add on to that the tourism tax levied by Labour and doesn't it make it a really attractive place to visit!!
I live in Wales. I don't know anyone who is in favour of this blanket speed limit. Virtue signalling by the Senedd. Political change is needed in Wales.
That's not the point now is it how frustrated are you driving at 30 ? Yes it's not great but its bearable... now think how excited you're going to be at the start of a nice long 30... 20 zone you will be positively delighted.
Nly place in my village to get accidents are traffic lights cos of the short change delay, and junctions where people have pulled out into oncoming vehicles, doesn't matter what the speed you can't change driver errors.
Mark Drakeford first minister of Wales , asserts you will now live longer as cleaner air ! Have to ask, why have the people of Wales voted this man and those around him into power.
Hmmmm, Wales and Scotland are appallingly run and have poor NHS, drug problems etc and what do they have in common? Yes, of course their own semi independence and therefore serves them right.
@@nickhickson8738 To be fair Welsh Labour voters thought they were voting for party that would look after the working class not one which would ride rough shod over them imposing their crazy schemes.
this cynical policy needs to be stopped. I've just learnt the fire brigade are involved too. They can stop someone and 'educate' them if they are doing 24 mph !
Nope. As is always the case, most Welsh people are perfectly content, whereas angry English people like to tell us 'how it is'. If it's not migrants, it's 20mph limits. If it's not that, then it will be the price of milk. Or whether you should mow the grass on Sunday.
One has to look down to check the speed so much showing on ones dash to hold 20mph I feel its more dangerous than driving around 30 in a 30mph area. Looking at what's ahead is so important.
exactly --- and most can see this; as they say a week is long term and most dont plan past the end of the week. tThe people of Wales vted for Mark Drakeford the man who imposed the hardest and longest lockdowns during Covid that resulted in the worst outcomes.
If our leaders continue with their madness, sooner or later a modern day George Washington or Oliver Cromwell will come around. That will not end well for our leaders, just look up your history. Push people too far and watch out, populace will snap at some point, then all bets are off as to what will happen.
Yeah! The Tories are doing so much better, campaigning now for bans on protecting human lives. Welcome to Engerland, a nation of stupid angry people who can't keep their noses out of other people's affairs.
@@josephglover4256 Considering that I've been dumped rotting in a room to die I've got a slightly different take on how sick and downright NASTY the people around me who're just watching it happening are!
Nobody will have the time necessary to visit Wales as it will take forever to get anywhere. I’m quite looking forward to the start of this idiotic speed limit and the mayhem it will create as people will start to take action when it directly affects them.
The scenic biking roads won't change. It's in built up areas. 20 is too low. We have it by us and nobody does it cos it's just too slow, they still do 30. Had they said 25 many more would have accepted it
If you have a diesel car, driving at 20mph around town will ruin your diesel particulate filter. It will cost you £100's to get repaired. This is designed to get the diesel car off the road
There is a publicly available document regarding the imposition of all these "safety" restrictions which explains the real reason for them. The idea is to make driving motor transport so impossibly miserable, drivers will just give up. This is all linked to the open prisons, no travel for the masses and total monitored control.
When a rat is backed into a corner he will bite back, I am not calling good people, rats, but the time is almost here for the majority of common sense folk to take a stand against these corrupt politicians in power.
We love Wales and always did a trip there every year but we won't return and spend our money until the lunatic government is gone. The Welsh need to wake up and recognise that voting for a nationlist party isn't always in theur best interests.
Trust me........a HUGE number of us Welsh folk are deeply, deeply unhappy with Welsh politics and government. I'd abolish the Welsh government tomorrow if I could.
speaking as a welsh man living in the valleys it drives me mad to hear all the stupid people voting wales simply because they are following what they dads and granddads did before them by voting for these clowns.
The question is: why do so many English people think other countries can't survive without their money? It's because you retain imperialistic ideas. Wales isn't a playground for the English. It was the same with all sorts of other changes in Wales. Yet, all accommodation is overbooked in Wales. Everybody wants to come here. Everybody is coming here. So spare us your idle pub-talk and I'll put a £10 bet you'll be back in Wales as usual. You're welcome, so long as you respect this isn't England, and doesn't want to be.
every driver in England and Wales should drive at 10mph all over the country, cause many traffic jams, slow lorries down, public transport and bring this country to its knees, hit them in the pocket, no revenue from speeding fines etc
Are you campaigning to remove Arriva buses (owned by Deutsche Bahn - who formerly transported Jews to their deaths) and who help pay for Germany's pension bill? No? Why not? We need to renationalise buses. Then we can focus on improving them for people, not foreign profit.
Ian Collins - proof if needed that even a broken clock is right twice a day. Blanket 20 is a disgrace and ought to be widely ignored like similar impositions elsewhere.
I was looking forward to going to wales next week in our camper van for a week but I’m buggered if I’m going to drive everywhere at 20mph, I’ll go somewhere else instead (and spend my money there).
That's a shame 'cause it's a lovely place, well worth the minor trouble caused by the new limit. And I would have thought you'd be familiar with 20 mph as it seems to be the maximum speed of every camper van I follow.@@user-eh2nv5pj1j
The area my sister lived in in Canada has a 20 limit, it was agonizing, especially when you're the only car on the road, and no one walks anywhere so there's little chance of running someone over. To make it even worse you have to stop at every junction. Picture a residential area, you're on the main road running through it and there's a side road feeding into it up ahead. You can see up the side road and there's nothing there but you have to come to a complete stop then pull away again. You can't just slow down, if a cop sees you do that you'll be getting a ticket.
It might go against the grain but if the conservatives promise to recind this immediately if they get in power in Wales, destroy labour at the polls and send VERY clear message.
Indeed, all part of the WEF globalist great reset agenda 21-30, you will own nothing and be happy. Covid plandemic, Global warming nonsense, the green energy and net 0 insanity, digital currency and ID,, the list is endless. People need to watch alternative media, you'll learn nothing here on MSM.
@@chrisgale5634 really, stop watching MSM, watch alternative media with independent journalism, it's not nonsense, all part of the WEF globalist great reset agenda 21-30, you will own nothing and be happy, Covid plandemic, Global warming nonsense, the green energy insanity and net 0 insanity, digital currency and ID, cashless society, the list is endless.
Kill off the car, get us all walking and onto bikes, if you live in a big town and it takes longer than 15mins to get down there it’s wet and cold then suddenly a 15min city becomes more appealing.
The Welsh PR machine already had its work cut out, but this has sent Wales back 30 years. Say goodbye to English tourism cash, and the thousands of small businesses that rely on it. Well done (again) Labour.
Bonkers. I'm a domiciliary care worker, 90% of my house calls are in the new 20mph areas. All I can see are shorter breaks and more speeding tickets resulting in poss loss of licence and job.
They introduced 20 mph restrictions in the Border villages in Scotland on the A69. Driving from the border to Edinburgh the traffic would squash up in the villages, just resulting in long convoys. This then lead to increased driver frustration with drivers taking more significant risks to overtake. As anyone who knows the A69 you will appreciate the dangers involved of overtaking on this stretch of road.
I live in the Borders, about a mile from the A68 and use it regularly in both directions - it's made no difference to traffic, but what it has done is make it easy for pedestrians to cross the roads and reduced speeds in the couple of villages/towns (Lauder and Jedburgh are the only ones with a 20 on the A68, all of a mile reduced from 30 to 20 - so added a minute to an Edinburgh-Newcastle journey of 120 miles) with pavements alongside the main road.
We’ve got them all over in Leeds. There’s a 20mph Zone on our street. We live next to a Farm & the other week I was tootling home at 19mph and I was overtaken……by a fucking horse ffs….,. A woman riding a Horse flew past Me.
Just be careful if you come to Wales after 17th September as EVERY 30mph will then be 20mph. I've had a few practice runs on some trunk roads which will be changing and it feels totally ludicrous driving along a road which very rarely ever sees a pedestrian. This slower speed limit has it's place near schools, in residential areas, near hospitals etc. Having been accident free for 46 years and had 1 speeding ticket, 34 in a 30mph zone despite being a lorry driver for 12 years, I can't help feeling that my almost unblemished record won't stay that way for long, 20mph is a very difficult speed to sit at unless you're in traffic or have your nose pressed against the speedo. Congestion is going to cause nose to tail traffic without gaps, pedestrians won't be able to cross safely and motorists won't be able to come out of side roads because there will be very few gaps in the traffic. Frustration will create more accidents. Traffic won't be able to safely pass cyclists doing 10-15mph so all the traffic slows down to that speed, then some thoughtless cyclist will overtake or undertake the slow traffic creating yet more danger for pedestrians, very few bikes have a speedometer and cannot be prosecuted for breaking the speed limit. Check out the Black Belt Barristers video on this. The 20mph zones may not always be obvious so basically if there's street lights, it's 20mph. Between this blanket 20mph limit, which is going to extend journey times for many and the proposed tourist tax, they're going to severely damage the Welsh economy. A lot of people simply won't come.
Great points. Also 20 is a funny speed so 3rd gear isn’t quick enough for the revs, so people will find themselves staying/dropping down into 2nd gear to keep purchase and drive along in a higher rev
Best comment 👌 it's going to make motorists nervous cause a panic phobia and really it's not even 20mph it's really 15 or 16 because it's speeding if it touches the 20mph on the dial so this will cause an on off slight presses with the foot your ankle will end up weakening due to keeping that 15 to 17 mph slight touch off and on no wonder people are riddled with anxiety what about ambulances? Or calling the police out to a major domestic delivery service. There is evil afoot and they won't stop until they have destroyed our lives
This is going to seriously affect tourism (I'm in England) as I think people will go to other places rather than crawling around Wales trying to get to the seaside or wherever for days out or holidays. Also, My car has cruise control and I often set it to 30, 50 Etc. to maintain the speed and if I brake or stop at lights, I press it again to get back up to the speed limit. But my cruise control only works when I am going 25mph or over so trying to use it to stick to 20mph isn't happening and so it is quite hard for people to maintain that and I would be up and down trying to maintain the speed and not really concentrating on much else. So guess who'll be going to Scarborough, Whitby and the east coast Etc. in the future. 🤔🤔
The Welsh government has been enlarging the ‘Heads of the Valley’s” road, so far it’s £110 million over budget for the first 5 mile stretch. Now that the road is now a super dual carriageway, they’ve reduced the speed limit to 50mph! Projected costs for the 11 mile section are now over £1.14 Billion!
I read some time ago that the idiots in the Welsh government were going to use PFI money finish the heads of the valleys road...I kid you not..just goes to show how ignorant & stupid they really are.
Its a cash grab. Here in London they did the same. You break the 20mph speed limit and it's an instant £100 fine + 3 points on your license with no appeal.
I live in Mid-Wales so I'm having to put up with this madness. I travel to the local shop to pick up my newspaper & since this limit has been introduced I can't get out of 3rd. gear to adhere to the 20mph limit which is obviously increasing fuel consumption & producing more CO2
@@Some1outside5973 surely if the people of Wales unify and protest in massive numbers, he will have no choice to change course or resign ? But I haven't seen the people of Wales galvanize against Drake !
That should get rid of a Loony Labour council in Wales, like it did here in Hull when they cocked up the road system with cycle lanes and bus lanes everywhere, everything except car lanes.
I think the obvious thing to do in the case of pedestrian deaths is to make it illegal for pedestrian to wander about in the road ! Surely the road is for the use of vehicles, that is why they pay extortionate road tax, if they cannot use a pedestrian crossing, provided for crossing the road then any one injured crossing when traffic is likely to hit them should be heavily fined, and full costs payed to the inconvenienced motorist ,who was no doubt traumatised by hitting a wandering pedestrian.
Odd but Wales has been taken back by Drakeford to the time of Edward 7th in 1901 when the speed limit was 20mph so not a bad achievement to move back in time!
Apparently their 'public consulation' involved walking the streets of Cardiff asking young mothers if they'd prefer their child to be hit by a car travelling at 20 mph or 30 mph. Then claimed 'overwhelming public support' for the 20 mph limit. Petition in the Senedd to "rescind and remove the disastrous 20 mph law" currently averaging 1 signature per second and is currently (11am Wednesday) at 271,502 - that's about 10% of the entire Welsh population.
Drakeford can't shuffle off fast enough for me as he has been a disaster in almost every sense. Sadly, he is probably just the tip of the iceberg with this dreadful government. I haven't entirely given up on devolution, but these clowns are a severe test
There is a far bigger picture here its called WEF. Have Talktv actually even mention it and their agenda or are they going to continue blaming Khant, Starmer and Drakeford as being personally responsible? If they wont mention the cause then this will only get worse, this is nothing to do with party politics, its the fact that the LIBLABCON has been sabotaged by the WEF, none of this is helping us by pretending that the WEF doesn't exist.
It will create more accidents as people will be watching their Speedo rather than the rd. they also not thought about the fire service. Most of the fire service is retained meaning they are on call and only work when there is a call for them. They must live within 5 mins of the station to be on this system and they have been struggling to get staff cause of this. Some places even pushing the turnout time to 8 mins. However when it drops to 20 that shrinks the pool even more as the speed will mean it will take them longer to get to station there are talks that the turnout will go to 15 mins or even higher. With up to 24 appliances already off the run daily due to a retained staff shortage this will make it worse. When your house is on fire or someone in a bad rtc the last thing you want is to wait 15 mins before the engine even leaves the station. Yes there maybe a couple of live reducing the speed may save on the rd. but how many more will die on the rd or at house fires while waiting for emergency services to arrive. Complete madness
James Mapston Cardiff I have nurses coming to the house every day for my severely disabled brother,they are worried about getting convicted doing there job because they will be delayed by this ridiculous 20mph Drakeford speed limit ,GET RID OF LABOUR AND THE WELSH ASSEMBLY ALSO .If labour wanted to save lives then they should never have closed Cardiff Royal infirmary..It's now time for a new government in Wales.Drakefod is leaving and has left Wales 1 Billion in debt.
There's increased traffic in Wrexham and the whole of Wales. The traffic was bad enough since Wrexham became a tourist hotspot because of the football club takeover. Now the bullies in power of Wales known as Mark Drakeford and Lee Waters have enforced the blanket 20mph speed limit in the whole of Wales making it unfair on Welsh drivers. Mark and Lee are not right in the head and they don't think about what is practical for people, they enjoy the thought of ruining people's spare time. There are a lot more people with road rage now because its harder for them to get to places on time. Mark says "It only adds an extra 5 to 10 minutes to people's journeys". That adds up to lots of hours of wasted time over the years. Next they will want to enforce a blanket 10mph speed limit. Mark Drakeford is trying to make himself look like a good person by saying "We are saving people's lives". Mark is actually making people depressed and he doesn't care that more people will commit suicide because he's adding to their problems. A lot of people have enough problems in their lives without having to put up with a blanket 20mph speed limit enforcement. Sometimes confused old people are driving 20mph on a 40mph/50mph road and it can increase the amount of accidents when people are trying to overtake them. Mark Drakeford also hates dogs and he wants certain breeds banned. He's trying to make people think that the people who have a different opinion from him are mentally confused conspiracy theorists. Mark Drakeford is a bad person just like his son.
We’ve been on holidays to Wales lots of times to static caravans. Five of us, a couple of weeks every year haemorrhaging money into the Welsh economy. We won’t be going again. 20mph. Ffs
It is not just a war on motorists. It is a war on everybody's freedom of movement, because taxis and busses will become almost 50% more expensive and 50% more time consuming. And all vehicles driving around in second gear, will INCREASE pollution, not reduce it.
Been in one of the trial zones for a while now. The net effect is most cars now go 40 instead of 30. The stupid government is causing far more risk to life now.
As Ozzieman loves to say " destination fucked" yep pretty well describes the new 20 mph limit! But why only 20mph, why not make it 3mph and have a man walking in front of the car with a red flag!
There are 40 million motorists out of 67 million population of uk. If every motorist refused to pay insurance and road tax then that would get somewhere. So many earn a living from cars one way or another , and many spare essential for working, why is everyone still got on as normal.? Getting people out of cars will cost thousands of jobs. Don’t they care??
Be kind.....take the jab...be kind...inform on people not complying with lockdown rules...be kind ...Wear a mask.....be kind ...call a man a woman when he's a man....get the picture
I went on a speed awareness course and they told me that the flashing 20mph signs outside schools warning only ie the advised speed...NOT ENFORCEABLE....I said "That says it all for me" ...A joke
One minute it’s pollution then it’s speed reduction to create pollution. More fuel more emissions,less progress and longer journeys.30 miles takes 1 hour. Not any more it will take 1.5 hours. If you are in a hurry you will also be extra stressed .
I believe this was trialled in Abergavenny and had to be abandoned due to the serious deterioration in air quality from having more cars hanging around clogging up the streets
Strange how they have enough staff and labour to install 20mph limits but not enough to repair potholes????
Exactly.
Why 20mph when 10pm would be much more effective ….or indeed 0mph ?
Good point
….it’s because potholes don’t produce income.
Even stranger how they have enough asphalt to make speed bumps, but not enough to fill in the pot holes.
I always say that we used to drive on the left of the road, now we just drive on what's left of the road.
Most of us in Wales are against this madness. Ok around schools but blanket 20 is ridiculous. Maybe Wales will wake up and get rid of Welsh Labour and their partners Plaid Cymru.
Have you seen our alternative options? We're fucked either way 🫤
Simple. Do something about it. They work for us, voted in by us. If they are not doing our bidding, get them replaced. Ignore the current idiots, if you want it done do it yourself, write down what you would like and how you would do it and get other to back you. Then run it yourself. This is what we need to do. Labour and the Conservatives have now become irrelevant.
No chance of that with the silly devils who always vote Labour because "grand-dad did". And now children have the vote so that's the end. It really is.
@@mell3109 someone was saying how she sometimes gets overtaken by cyclists !! This is the down side to devolution. The population of Wales is under 3.5 million. Not many cars either. This is ideology. Mark Drakeford and the clowns that say ' Twenty is plenty' are trying to make driving such a miserable experience people decide to walk 5 miles or cycle 20 and maybe sell the car. They need certifying -all of them. these are people with power taking the piss...
They will drive away the car drivers, the tourists and their money.
Well done Drakeford
It's disgusting it's obviously a war on the ordinary working man and his car 😒
It's called the WEF globalist great reset agenda 21-30, you will own nothing and be happy. All information on alternative media, with real independent journalism.
Our entire society is built around cars. The cost is massive. I'm not sure why crybabies are having a meltdown over a speed limit?
Why - it's going to add, what, 20 seconds to your journey?
@@StudentDad-mc3puClearly you are not studying Mathematics.
@@covertcounsellor6797 My maths is good. This change only affects what were 30 mph zones where the AVERAGE speed is less than 30. For a journey of 2 miles in a 20 zone it will add between 10 and 15 seconds.
And to think Labour will most likely be the next government, I genuinely fear for the future of this country
What did your last vote do 😂😂😂😂
Vote an independent to keep both big party's out.
Both parties are two cheeks of the same backside, both Neo Liberal WEF Globalists, owned lock stock and barrel, wouldn't matter who was in power.
Vote for anyone BUT labour who would destroy your freedoms in their virtue signalling nonsense
No point in worrying about it. This Country doesn't have a future, so you may as well get used to it. Just one thing though, when your Grandchildren ask you in the future why it is they don't have a future remember to tell them that the reason for that is that you kept voting for the same old corrupt political parties because you were too thick to employ any serious critical thinking.
The most stupid thing is that 20 MPH limits apply 24/7, how many kids are going to run out in the road at 3am. ????
Even at home time you won't see a unsupervised kid trying to cross. Escorted everywhere. Drakeford thinks it's still 1973 and kids make dens etc.
@@tombartram7384where do you live, all northern kids paly out and make dens and such
And maybe a good idea to teach not only kids but some adults the green cross code and put responsibility on themselves instead of putting it on road users all the time !
people loitering with intent will not stand out to police as it will br the norm,
@@tombartram7384 At least then - There was non of this woke bull or gay pride, gender crap. Perhaps if kids got off there phones and made dens they might actually learn something of value instead of relying on 'tech'
20mph = cars on roads longer = more pollution
They are too thick to see that.
That's not how it works. Just google it 😂
Plus you’ll be in a higher gear so higher revs = higher pollution.
@@liamlyon1808**lower
@@McT740052 sorry yes your right my bad
I think politicians in this country will get a shock soon, when wealthy upwardly mobile people who contribute lots of tax, start to emigrate due to the poor quality of life the UK authorities wish to provide their citizens, and those leaving will be replaced with people from all over the world with their begging bowls out wanting benefits.
Have you been living under a rock for the past 40-50yrs?. Numpty.
Emmigrate to where?
I want to leave too.
That is exactly their plan and its working out just fine. They want a serf population of totally impoverished and dependant people.
You think these people care about the economy? Really? They want to destroy it!!!
Currently waiting for my visa to arrive to enable me to stop paying tax on a 6 figure salary in the U.K. to go and spend my life savings, equity from my UK house, my private pension, and when I am old enough, my state pension in a less woke country. Good luck trying to change the woke, green UK political norm, I don't see it happening any time soon given the major parties. I am gone and probably a bit sunburned.
It’s simple people! We have the power to stop this madness. Every motorist should stand up and rebel.
Sadly people just comply, look at COVID. Neighbours grassing in each other over masks etc. People will do nothing.
Nobody will , people are getting weak
We couldnt stop a bus at a bus stop as the spine of this country has melted.
We have the power to stop everything, but due to the spineless public, it aint ever going to happen!
Most people don't care, including myself. It's barely going to make any difference because people don't travel for long distances in 30mph zones. We use dual carriageways, motorways and other roads with speed limits greater than 30mph.
Labour and Plaid Cymru an absolute disaster for Wales. End devolution.
That's the real answer, it's not enough to just get rid of Dickford, the whole assembly/ devolution mess must go! 😒
Giving all power back to the goons in Westminster is not the answer.
@@Philzoid .....They probably wouldn't do it as bad , they certainly couldn't do worse!, and they'd do it way , way cheaper!.
its people like drackford that needs a good kicking ! put an end to him
its people like drackford that needs a good kicking !
It's the death knell for Welsh tourism, who'd spend half of their holiday crawling along at 20mph to reach their destination and then the other half crawling along at the same speed to escape the place and add on to that the tourism tax levied by Labour and doesn't it make it a really attractive place to visit!!
Maby you want to stay in a nice hotel .....
That would be a valid point if the whole of Wales was 30mph roads but its not lol. You're not really that stupid are you?
So cars will be travelling slower, thus engines on longer to get somewhere, thus exhaust pumping out fumes for longer.
Not to mention u be stuck in third gear most of the trip so it’s not as efficient at burning the fumes as being in 4th would be
Drive in 2nd, sod them
@@simplifygardening absolutely yes, higher revs if stay in 2nd
@@BrianBadondebowl yes 3rd is a middling gear, low revs, you may find you’ll have to drop back down to 2nd to get back a response.
This aimed at making everybody drive EVs, otherwise known as expensive milk floats lol.
I live in Wales. I don't know anyone who is in favour of this blanket speed limit. Virtue signalling by the Senedd. Political change is needed in Wales.
How is it virtue signalling? lol I also live in Wales and making 30mph roads 20mph roads makes zero difference to me.
@@Philzoid So that's alright then. 🙄
They act like spiteful children playing at government. Devolution was a mistake.
A mistake, that's putting it mildly, it has been a complete disaster.
You would prefer to be licking the Tory boot clean would you?
The village where I live has always been 30mph, how many road accidents have we had in the last 30 years? None.
That's not the point now is it how frustrated are you driving at 30 ? Yes it's not great but its bearable... now think how excited you're going to be at the start of a nice long 30... 20 zone you will be positively delighted.
Nly place in my village to get accidents are traffic lights cos of the short change delay, and junctions where people have pulled out into oncoming vehicles, doesn't matter what the speed you can't change driver errors.
Mark Drakeford first minister of Wales , asserts you will now live longer as cleaner air ! Have to ask, why have the people of Wales voted this man and those around him into power.
Yeah! Aunt Maud smoked 80 a day and lived to 105. Statistics, like the plebs like it.
None yet...
labour, labour everywhere and its toxic tentacles are getting bigger.
This is not the Labour I used to vote for, there is no difference between labour and tory now, so where is the democracy?
People in Wales need to stand up and do something like the people in London against ulez
angelathornalley: Hold my beer.
What has happened in Wales is truly disgraceful. It's unforgivable.
Hmmmm, Wales and Scotland are appallingly run and have poor NHS, drug problems etc and what do they have in common? Yes, of course their own semi independence and therefore serves them right.
@@nickhickson8738 To be fair Welsh Labour voters thought they were voting for party that would look after the working class not one which would ride rough shod over them imposing their crazy schemes.
Imagine thinking voting for governments is going to help your quality of life hahahah
this cynical policy needs to be stopped. I've just learnt the fire brigade are involved too. They can stop someone and 'educate' them if they are doing 24 mph !
Nope. As is always the case, most Welsh people are perfectly content, whereas angry English people like to tell us 'how it is'. If it's not migrants, it's 20mph limits. If it's not that, then it will be the price of milk. Or whether you should mow the grass on Sunday.
Not difficult to imagine what's going to happen to the enforcement cameras.
Bring on the Blade Runners...food for thought.
One has to look down to check the speed so much showing on ones dash to hold 20mph I feel its more dangerous than driving around 30 in a 30mph area. Looking at what's ahead is so important.
My previous car that I had for 10 years went faster than 20mp in tick over and constantly I had to constantly tap the brakes.
It’s a stealth tax to get money to continue to push towards getting rid of cars entirely for 15 min cities
exactly --- and most can see this; as they say a week is long term and most dont plan past the end of the week. tThe people of Wales vted for Mark Drakeford the man who imposed the hardest and longest lockdowns during Covid that resulted in the worst outcomes.
Crying with laughter, loonies running the asylum!! Time to pull power from these so called disolved powers
Last I heard the electorate are all set to vote in Labour.
If our leaders continue with their madness, sooner or later a modern day George Washington or Oliver Cromwell will come around. That will not end well for our leaders, just look up your history. Push people too far and watch out, populace will snap at some point, then all bets are off as to what will happen.
@@jonathanj.7344 he is labour! Like Sadiq Khan a total waste of tax payers money with thier anti car agenda!
Yeah! The Tories are doing so much better, campaigning now for bans on protecting human lives. Welcome to Engerland, a nation of stupid angry people who can't keep their noses out of other people's affairs.
We've been well past the point of insanity for over 20yrs!
It was 30 yrs, but recently this has been revised down to 20.
9/11 was the true end of the world. We’re in purgatory...
@@josephglover4256
Considering that I've been dumped rotting in a room to die I've got a slightly different take on how sick and downright NASTY the people around me who're just watching it happening are!
@@josephglover4256
More specifically the condition I've been left in for a few years now is called MELD PURGATORY.
Absolutely nuts. There are thousands of bikers who won’t go to Wales to enjoy the scenic roads and spend their money.
It's what they want. They will be building a wall along the border to stop people getting out soon.
I shouldn’t think it will be limited to just bikers, at this rate.
Whose going to want to visit Wales?
Nobody will have the time necessary to visit Wales as it will take forever to get anywhere. I’m quite looking forward to the start of this idiotic speed limit and the mayhem it will create as people will start to take action when it directly affects them.
Because they can't ride a 30mph in a built up area?
The scenic biking roads won't change. It's in built up areas. 20 is too low. We have it by us and nobody does it cos it's just too slow, they still do 30. Had they said 25 many more would have accepted it
If you have a diesel car, driving at 20mph around town will ruin your diesel particulate filter. It will cost you £100's to get repaired. This is designed to get the diesel car off the road
Driving in first gear under 20mph will heat up the exhaust and clear it
Take dpf out you'll get better performance,just put it back for next mot😂
and burn more fuel and cause more emissions .
Yes this happened to me - the bill was £2,500...
@@stephenhowe568You don't know what you are talking about.
There is a publicly available document regarding the imposition of all these "safety" restrictions which explains the real reason for them. The idea is to make driving motor transport so impossibly miserable, drivers will just give up. This is all linked to the open prisons, no travel for the masses and total monitored control.
Time to buy a reflective number plate.
When a rat is backed into a corner he will bite back, I am not calling good people, rats, but the time is almost here for the majority of common sense folk to take a stand against these corrupt politicians in power.
There is a document - it does not say that.
The whole country is turning into an open prison for every one of us 😞
@@PhilipBallGarry Nice whinge. Grow some. What, exactly are you prevented from doing or saying?
We love Wales and always did a trip there every year but we won't return and spend our money until the lunatic government is gone. The Welsh need to wake up and recognise that voting for a nationlist party isn't always in theur best interests.
Trust me........a HUGE number of us Welsh folk are deeply, deeply unhappy with Welsh politics and government. I'd abolish the Welsh government tomorrow if I could.
Good riddance
@@Philzoid Please tell the nurse not to allow you access to the computer room ever again.
speaking as a welsh man living in the valleys it drives me mad to hear all the stupid people voting wales simply because they are following what they dads and granddads did before them by voting for these clowns.
The question is: why do so many English people think other countries can't survive without their money? It's because you retain imperialistic ideas. Wales isn't a playground for the English. It was the same with all sorts of other changes in Wales. Yet, all accommodation is overbooked in Wales. Everybody wants to come here. Everybody is coming here. So spare us your idle pub-talk and I'll put a £10 bet you'll be back in Wales as usual. You're welcome, so long as you respect this isn't England, and doesn't want to be.
I won't be going back to Wales. There is nothing for miles. Travelling at 20 will be torture.
Look on the bright side, you can have more time to marvel at the sheep
@@robinburn4974 Or watch them overtaking.
@@robinburn4974 love this.
Except you wont be travelling at 20 you'll be doing 15-18 to make sure you're not constantly going over the limit
That's the whole point. To make driving so expensive and miserable that ppl would just stop driving.
every driver in England and Wales should drive at 10mph all over the country, cause many traffic jams, slow lorries down, public transport and bring this country to its knees, hit them in the pocket, no revenue from speeding fines etc
That's a great idea problem is people wont unite, to busy fighting each other
@@AL-ud2isWhich is exactly what they want, the whole country divided !!
Good idea and every one phone in sick for a day all at once will cost the country billions lol
I have been saying this for ages.
All drive at 30 all get fined and noone pays the fine ... lets all go to court lol
Bus services are reducing because of the speed reductions so even if you don’t have a car they’re making it harder to get around.
We won't be allowed to go anywhere with these dead heads in control. The lockdown was a precursor to all of this claptrap !!
Are you campaigning to remove Arriva buses (owned by Deutsche Bahn - who formerly transported Jews to their deaths) and who help pay for Germany's pension bill? No? Why not? We need to renationalise buses. Then we can focus on improving them for people, not foreign profit.
Dumbo Drakeford et al will bring back a man waving a red flag in walking in front of a moving car next! 😊
Ian Collins - proof if needed that even a broken clock is right twice a day. Blanket 20 is a disgrace and ought to be widely ignored like similar impositions elsewhere.
I won't be sticking to it either!
@@steveholmes381 That wasn’t what was said although if you’re looking for advice then it would be to always drive to the prevailing conditions.
Wales must refuse this crap!!! Governments have lost the plot, sort out crime, not honest hard working motorists
We are run by the north koreans here in Wales,god help us
I was looking forward to going to wales next week in our camper van for a week but I’m buggered if I’m going to drive everywhere at 20mph, I’ll go somewhere else instead (and spend my money there).
You don't need to drive 'everywhere' at that speed, only the roads currently having a 30 limit.
@@mikeadams6031 Which is a hell of a lot of roads ! Stuff it I’ll just go elsewhere.
And then you will miss this beautiful country and its many attractions. Surely that's worth the minor inconvenience?@@AJ-qn6gd
That's a shame 'cause it's a lovely place, well worth the minor trouble caused by the new limit. And I would have thought you'd be familiar with 20 mph as it seems to be the maximum speed of every camper van I follow.@@user-eh2nv5pj1j
The area my sister lived in in Canada has a 20 limit, it was agonizing, especially when you're the only car on the road, and no one walks anywhere so there's little chance of running someone over. To make it even worse you have to stop at every junction. Picture a residential area, you're on the main road running through it and there's a side road feeding into it up ahead. You can see up the side road and there's nothing there but you have to come to a complete stop then pull away again. You can't just slow down, if a cop sees you do that you'll be getting a ticket.
It might go against the grain but if the conservatives promise to recind this immediately if they get in power in Wales, destroy labour at the polls and send VERY clear message.
but they won't because they also want the money generated by strategically placed speed cameras fining motorist travelling down a hill at 24 mph !
I reckon It’s all part of getting us into these 15 minute Cities think about it.
Indeed, all part of the WEF globalist great reset agenda 21-30, you will own nothing and be happy. Covid plandemic, Global warming nonsense, the green energy and net 0 insanity, digital currency and ID,, the list is endless. People need to watch alternative media, you'll learn nothing here on MSM.
@@chrisgale5634 really, stop watching MSM, watch alternative media with independent journalism, it's not nonsense, all part of the WEF globalist great reset agenda 21-30, you will own nothing and be happy, Covid plandemic, Global warming nonsense, the green energy insanity and net 0 insanity, digital currency and ID, cashless society, the list is endless.
Kill off the car, get us all walking and onto bikes, if you live in a big town and it takes longer than 15mins to get down there it’s wet and cold then suddenly a 15min city becomes more appealing.
Their priority is 20mph... BUT CANNOT SEE MY GP OR EVEN A NURSE!!!..... BEYOND DISGUSTING
These lunatics are out of control theyre going to make people's lives even more miserable
Only if they're allowed to !..... Think about that !......
Together with the softly softly approach to Just Stop Oil fanatics, this is all part of the war on the motorist
The Welsh PR machine already had its work cut out, but this has sent Wales back 30 years. Say goodbye to English tourism cash, and the thousands of small businesses that rely on it. Well done (again) Labour.
Bonkers. I'm a domiciliary care worker, 90% of my house calls are in the new 20mph areas. All I can see are shorter breaks and more speeding tickets resulting in poss loss of licence and job.
Don't break the law.
If I'm on a road where 20mph isn't required I just do 35 ish. Welsh government are arseholes
I ignore the 20s in my town. There comes a point when law isn't lawful.
COvid taught me law is more about politics than about rights and wrongs.
Is there loads of camera traps?
Wrong, the law is there to curb arseholes like you. Speed limits and covid are not the same dipstick.
War on elderly and disabled who can’t ride a friggin pedal bike.
Best argument I read all day. You will believe this.
the RED flag act .. a man walked in front of every car holding a RED flag.. Labours Red flag
They introduced 20 mph restrictions in the Border villages in Scotland on the A69. Driving from the border to Edinburgh the traffic would squash up in the villages, just resulting in long convoys. This then lead to increased driver frustration with drivers taking more significant risks to overtake. As anyone who knows the A69 you will appreciate the dangers involved of overtaking on this stretch of road.
The A69 runs from Newcastle to Carlisle. Neither of which is in Scotland.
@@lamf4846 my mistake, I meant the A68.
I live in the Borders, about a mile from the A68 and use it regularly in both directions - it's made no difference to traffic, but what it has done is make it easy for pedestrians to cross the roads and reduced speeds in the couple of villages/towns (Lauder and Jedburgh are the only ones with a 20 on the A68, all of a mile reduced from 30 to 20 - so added a minute to an Edinburgh-Newcastle journey of 120 miles) with pavements alongside the main road.
stay in bed never use the stairs and claim benefits as going to work and working is risky
How can you bike everywhere in Wales? It rains constantly, and anywhere worth going to is on a hill
Little bit of water ain't gonna hurt you...
It was over 80 degrees here last week mate.
@@captainbimble Did you miss the two months before last week? Mate.
He needs sacking
We’ve got them all over in Leeds.
There’s a 20mph Zone on our street. We live next to a Farm & the other week I was tootling home at 19mph and I was overtaken……by a fucking horse ffs….,. A woman riding a Horse flew past Me.
Just be careful if you come to Wales after 17th September as EVERY 30mph will then be 20mph. I've had a few practice runs on some trunk roads which will be changing and it feels totally ludicrous driving along a road which very rarely ever sees a pedestrian. This slower speed limit has it's place near schools, in residential areas, near hospitals etc.
Having been accident free for 46 years and had 1 speeding ticket, 34 in a 30mph zone despite being a lorry driver for 12 years, I can't help feeling that my almost unblemished record won't stay that way for long, 20mph is a very difficult speed to sit at unless you're in traffic or have your nose pressed against the speedo.
Congestion is going to cause nose to tail traffic without gaps, pedestrians won't be able to cross safely and motorists won't be able to come out of side roads because there will be very few gaps in the traffic. Frustration will create more accidents. Traffic won't be able to safely pass cyclists doing 10-15mph so all the traffic slows down to that speed, then some thoughtless cyclist will overtake or undertake the slow traffic creating yet more danger for pedestrians, very few bikes have a speedometer and cannot be prosecuted for breaking the speed limit. Check out the Black Belt Barristers video on this.
The 20mph zones may not always be obvious so basically if there's street lights, it's 20mph.
Between this blanket 20mph limit, which is going to extend journey times for many and the proposed tourist tax, they're going to severely damage the Welsh economy. A lot of people simply won't come.
Great points. Also 20 is a funny speed so 3rd gear isn’t quick enough for the revs, so people will find themselves staying/dropping down into 2nd gear to keep purchase and drive along in a higher rev
Going to try and get my last visit in before 17th. I am upset at being denied such a lovely place.
Not great for delivery drivers. They'll have to double their hours.
Best comment 👌 it's going to make motorists nervous cause a panic phobia and really it's not even 20mph it's really 15 or 16 because it's speeding if it touches the 20mph on the dial so this will cause an on off slight presses with the foot your ankle will end up weakening due to keeping that 15 to 17 mph slight touch off and on no wonder people are riddled with anxiety what about ambulances? Or calling the police out to a major domestic delivery service. There is evil afoot and they won't stop until they have destroyed our lives
That's not correct. Not all 30mph roads will become 20mph. Local councils will have power to choose which roads to alter.
This is going to seriously affect tourism (I'm in England) as I think people will go to other places rather than crawling around Wales trying to get to the seaside or wherever for days out or holidays.
Also, My car has cruise control and I often set it to 30, 50 Etc. to maintain the speed and if I brake or stop at lights, I press it again to get back up to the speed limit.
But my cruise control only works when I am going 25mph or over so trying to use it to stick to 20mph isn't happening and so it is quite hard for people to maintain that and I would be up and down trying to maintain the speed and not really concentrating on much else.
So guess who'll be going to Scarborough, Whitby and the east coast Etc. in the future. 🤔🤔
Must have a crap car, mine goes down to 20mph AKA 30kmh and so have most of the previous cars I've had for probably +20 years.
The Welsh government has been enlarging the ‘Heads of the Valley’s” road, so far it’s £110 million over budget for the first 5 mile stretch. Now that the road is now a super dual carriageway, they’ve reduced the speed limit to 50mph! Projected costs for the 11 mile section are now over £1.14 Billion!
I read some time ago that the idiots in the Welsh government were going to use PFI money finish the heads of the valleys road...I kid you not..just goes to show how ignorant & stupid they really are.
Maybe you should read about HS2 this week?
How can this be allowed to happen? What sort of country do we live in... not one I want to spend anymore time in. UK is finished.
Its a cash grab.
Here in London they did the same.
You break the 20mph speed limit and it's an instant £100 fine + 3 points on your license with no appeal.
I live in Mid-Wales so I'm having to put up with this madness. I travel to the local shop to pick up my newspaper & since this limit has been introduced I can't get out of 3rd. gear to adhere to the 20mph limit which is obviously increasing fuel consumption & producing more CO2
The people of wales voted for it the same as London with Sadiq Khan , I have no simpathy . Vote them in then moan about there policies !
No not true we didn't get a say no one in Wales wanted drake no one I know voted for him everywhere you go no one has a good word to say about drake
@@Some1outside5973 surely if the people of Wales unify and protest in massive numbers, he will have no choice to change course or resign ? But I haven't seen the people of Wales galvanize against Drake !
We had no say on this in wales and they are all as bad as eachother
@@Some1outside5973 was Drakeford not voted in?
@@Some1outside5973 If nobody in Wales voted for him and his party, how the fuck did they get elected?
That should get rid of a Loony Labour council in Wales, like it did here in Hull when they cocked up the road system with cycle lanes and bus lanes everywhere, everything except car lanes.
I think the obvious thing to do in the case of pedestrian deaths is to make it illegal for pedestrian to wander about in the road ! Surely the road is for the use of vehicles, that is why they pay extortionate road tax, if they cannot use a pedestrian crossing, provided for crossing the road then any one injured crossing when traffic is likely to hit them should be heavily fined, and full costs payed to the inconvenienced motorist ,who was no doubt traumatised by hitting a wandering pedestrian.
Being back the man with the red flag walking in front of each car the world is going backwards driven by backward facing politicians.
Was out tonight. Difficult to get on main road. Stuck behind idiots doing 20..arrrgggggh..comrade Drakeford is ruining Wales! A disgrace
Odd but Wales has been taken back by Drakeford to the time of Edward 7th in 1901 when the speed limit was 20mph so not a bad achievement to move back in time!
Thousands of jobs going and thousands of illegal immigrants arriving.What could possibly go wrong?Welcome to Wales.
Apparently their 'public consulation' involved walking the streets of Cardiff asking young mothers if they'd prefer their child to be hit by a car travelling at 20 mph or 30 mph.
Then claimed 'overwhelming public support' for the 20 mph limit. Petition in the Senedd to "rescind and remove the disastrous 20 mph law" currently averaging 1 signature per second and is currently (11am Wednesday) at 271,502 - that's about 10% of the entire Welsh population.
Do they not realise that at twenty mph the catalytic converter doesn't reach optimum temperature to work causing the car to put out more harmful gases
Drakeford can't shuffle off fast enough for me as he has been a disaster in almost every sense. Sadly, he is probably just the tip of the iceberg with this dreadful government. I haven't entirely given up on devolution, but these clowns are a severe test
Soon people on bike will be waving 👋 at us as they overtake us on the motorway 😊
....people on zimmer frames too!
There is a far bigger picture here its called WEF. Have Talktv actually even mention it and their agenda or are they going to continue blaming Khant, Starmer and Drakeford as being personally responsible? If they wont mention the cause then this will only get worse, this is nothing to do with party politics, its the fact that the LIBLABCON has been sabotaged by the WEF, none of this is helping us by pretending that the WEF doesn't exist.
@@paulwilliams5013 Electric zimmers are gonna be all the rage soon...
Bikes aren't allowed on motorways
@@justinbrooks5560joke?
In Australia it is 50 or 60 in built up areas and 40 in school hours, and 110 on highways. Brits, come to Australia
It will create more accidents as people will be watching their Speedo rather than the rd. they also not thought about the fire service. Most of the fire service is retained meaning they are on call and only work when there is a call for them. They must live within 5 mins of the station to be on this system and they have been struggling to get staff cause of this. Some places even pushing the turnout time to 8 mins. However when it drops to 20 that shrinks the pool even more as the speed will mean it will take them longer to get to station there are talks that the turnout will go to 15 mins or even higher. With up to 24 appliances already off the run daily due to a retained staff shortage this will make it worse. When your house is on fire or someone in a bad rtc the last thing you want is to wait 15 mins before the engine even leaves the station. Yes there maybe a couple of live reducing the speed may save on the rd. but how many more will die on the rd or at house fires while waiting for emergency services to arrive. Complete madness
They won't be watching their speedo, they will be too busy texting.
But by getting you out of your car they'll be able to do the only thing which concerns them: sign off net zero.
@@paulsawtell3991 The final solution then eh?
why do you have to stare at a speedo when your doing 20 and not any other speed?
James Mapston Cardiff
I have nurses coming to the house every day for my severely disabled brother,they are worried about getting convicted doing there job because they will be delayed by this ridiculous 20mph Drakeford speed limit ,GET RID OF LABOUR AND THE WELSH ASSEMBLY ALSO .If labour wanted to save lives then they should never have closed Cardiff Royal infirmary..It's now time for a new government in Wales.Drakefod is leaving and has left Wales 1 Billion in debt.
It seems like every day that getting a horse and cart will be a more viable option.
VOTED LABOUR ALL MY LIFE BUT NEVER AGAIN AFTER THIS LUNACY
There's increased traffic in Wrexham and the whole of Wales. The traffic was bad enough since Wrexham became a tourist hotspot because of the football club takeover. Now the bullies in power of Wales known as Mark Drakeford and Lee Waters have enforced the blanket 20mph speed limit in the whole of Wales making it unfair on Welsh drivers. Mark and Lee are not right in the head and they don't think about what is practical for people, they enjoy the thought of ruining people's spare time. There are a lot more people with road rage now because its harder for them to get to places on time. Mark says "It only adds an extra 5 to 10 minutes to people's journeys". That adds up to lots of hours of wasted time over the years. Next they will want to enforce a blanket 10mph speed limit. Mark Drakeford is trying to make himself look like a good person by saying "We are saving people's lives". Mark is actually making people depressed and he doesn't care that more people will commit suicide because he's adding to their problems. A lot of people have enough problems in their lives without having to put up with a blanket 20mph speed limit enforcement. Sometimes confused old people are driving 20mph on a 40mph/50mph road and it can increase the amount of accidents when people are trying to overtake them. Mark Drakeford also hates dogs and he wants certain breeds banned. He's trying to make people think that the people who have a different opinion from him are mentally confused conspiracy theorists. Mark Drakeford is a bad person just like his son.
We’ve been on holidays to Wales lots of times to static caravans. Five of us, a couple of weeks every year haemorrhaging money into the Welsh economy. We won’t be going again. 20mph. Ffs
It is not just a war on motorists. It is a war on everybody's freedom of movement, because taxis and busses will become almost 50% more expensive and 50% more time consuming. And all vehicles driving around in second gear, will INCREASE pollution, not reduce it.
Its already 20 MPH on the M4 thanks to Drakeford . That's why companies are NOT coming to Wales. You can't even do 15 mph up valley hills
As a welsh man its ridiculous
If Drakeford had been around in stone age times he’d have stopped fires in case of danger.
I think a club would have been empl;oyed.
But paedos overlooked. Like his son for example
You only have to look at the health care in Wales to realise what a full blown Labour Government would do for the rest of the country?
A method to fine motorists to generate a new revenue stream.
I can understand that some zones 20 mpu is justified but to make the default speed 20 mpu in urban areas ,is ridiculous.
People lose concentration at 20mph and start looking around.
This is their goal to hound the motorist & ultimately force him or her off the road!
Been in one of the trial zones for a while now. The net effect is most cars now go 40 instead of 30. The stupid government is causing far more risk to life now.
As Ozzieman loves to say " destination fucked" yep pretty well describes the new 20 mph limit! But why only 20mph, why not make it 3mph and have a man walking in front of the car with a red flag!
There are 40 million motorists out of 67 million population of uk. If every motorist refused to pay insurance and road tax then that would get somewhere. So many earn a living from cars one way or another , and many spare essential for working, why is everyone still got on as normal.? Getting people out of cars will cost thousands of jobs. Don’t they care??
We are a nation heading for complete and utter ruin. The madness gets worse by the day.
We have 20mph speed limits on the side roads where I live and I have yet to see someone doing 20mph and drivers don't take any notice of 30mph.
Problem in wales is the police spend all their time out with speed cameras trying to make money…..they don’t bother with anything else!
@@jeffreyroberts7438 Oh yes they do. Try offending somebody on social media and you will see a lot of the plod.
@@jamescollins3647 you’ll see 6 at once
Be kind.....take the jab...be kind...inform on people not complying with lockdown rules...be kind ...Wear a mask.....be kind ...call a man a woman when he's a man....get the picture
Just another reason not to do business in Wales there are other parts of the country concentrate on and not as far.
agreed.
I went on a speed awareness course and they told me that the flashing 20mph signs outside schools warning only ie the advised speed...NOT ENFORCEABLE....I said "That says it all for me" ...A joke
It will cost the economy £300 million a year, but maybe save the holy NHS £92 million. Genius Drakeford, genius.
His 92 million is based on each grazed elbow costing the NHS a hundred grand. Guy's a total nob.
92 million is a fantasy figure plucked out of cloud cuckoo land to justify all this crap
Most accidents happen at 20 or lower. This increases risk to us all.
Its not just cars that are affected but buses too. Its going to be difficult to get around
One minute it’s pollution then it’s speed reduction to create pollution. More fuel more emissions,less progress and longer journeys.30 miles takes 1 hour. Not any more it will take 1.5 hours. If you are in a hurry you will also be extra stressed .
Time for the Welsh to vote for what's happening today not what happened years ago when you voted Labour just because.
When are a few of us going to make a splinter group of the blade runners to help Wales out
Defy it, simple. If you obey it, you deserve everything you get.
Defy it, get three points. It's not as easy as that fella. They are going to massively enforce this insane new law.
@superyid2010 how do they massively enforce it if a million people defy it?
Wouldn't 10 miles per hour be safer??????
I believe this was trialled in Abergavenny and had to be abandoned due to the serious deterioration in air quality from having more cars hanging around clogging up the streets
Absolute drivel ! what knuckle head told you that
No it hasn’t still there
Politicians need to realise they represent, not rule. History is replete with examples of what happens if they don't....