Old Religion of Samoa (Old Samoa, John B. Stair) | Polynesian Myth | Samoan Gods
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2023
- This is a reading from Old Samoa or Flotsam and Jetsam from the Pacific by Reverend John B. Stair. This was probably written in the late 1800's and then published some time in the 1908's. This source is not an accurate picture of traditional religion as the author was bias against native spiritual practices but also did not witness them firsthand as they were already going extinct by the time he arrived. However it does provide some truthful information but how much is probably up for debate.
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Malo lava, this is a text book that was part of my Pacific History 101 at University decades ago. I feel slightly indignant since I have a University Student Loan to repay for the cherished books I had read as University text books over three decades ago now. I had spent my student loan on text books worth thousands. But here we are in google world and UA-cam where everything is FREELY available to the laity. Reverend Stair was a good source. It is good to rekindle my undergraduate years at University once again....this time in audio form. This generation are so privileged when we had to live with the burden of having student loans to still repay to Government for the intellectual treasures that are now readily available. Ia, ae tu'ai ia, ua manuia iai o le 'aumaimoa i luga o le tapaifaiilagi. Ia manuia le 'au fa'alogologlo.
This is absolute gold! As a maori deprived of Polynesian stories from living in Australia for 46 years, this brings me great joy. Thank you.
Then go back to Aotearoa
This is cap
Noticed all the replies were negative towards you. From your fellow polynesian brother,stand strong and proud 🙏🏽 we're all learning more about our shared heritage
@@BarHawa these people think its easy to give up your family, work and career and just drop it and go back? What world do they live in that you can do it so easily, after spending a lifetime building a career in Australia? I intend to go back, but it would foolish to give up everything after all I have sacrificed for it.
@@duanehirini2078 rightfully so,much blessings to you in whatever choice you make brother. Kia kaha!
I've been waiting years for something like this. Yeah I know I probably could've done my own research but, yeah this is better. I always wanted to know what was Samoans beliefs before Christ.
Thanks for taking the time to make this, and for the disclaimer in the description 🙏
Old books like this are valuable but as you point out it’s important to remember that mistakes and ignorance will be wrapped up along with the valuable info about our past culture and practices, due to the negative attitude many of the writers had towards our “heathen” ancestors.
From a Christian perspective, our ancestors were heathens. Anything non-Christian is heathen. And now that many Samoans are Christians, we tend to have this same “negative attitude” towards heathens.
Yes they have done a really good job in brainwashing our own people to hate our ancestoral ways
thank you for posting this. I have been looking for something like this for a long time. This is GOLD!
Wow the most accurate account of anything about Samoa I've ever saw on here. Nifoloa Tooth Ghost can kill.
It weird how we pay attention to history of far neighbor about their mythology or their history we forget ours. I hope they still teach this in Samoan class in school. I’m Tongan I learned my history by story of my grandparents before they passed. And learn when I went to school in tafuna high. Our mythology go way back. Sad that we only known for being big and strong but they never know where we from on a map.😂 some call us fat😂😂 funny world this is
SĀMOA is the PRIMORDIAL ERA of POLYNESIA.
Hence its name Samoa: sacred center ❤
❤❤❤❤❤ this is what I have been missing. I have been dying to know where our people come from.
If you look up the first missionary diaries/journals you'll find what we used to believe before the Europeans came and wiped it out with Christianity and divide our island. Look up Auckland Star Newspaper from the 18th -mid 19th century, you'll find articles in there about the wars, our people being exiled from their own island, etc. We have to look deeper into these types of videos, take the facts such as names and dates and search the REAL story...NOT the palagi's interpretation of what happened. Blessings on your quest and may our ancestors guide you!!! ❤
Thanks for this man..good job on your research 🤙🏾and not a bad job pronouncing the language 🤙🏾
Highly detailed!
Thank you very much
Thank you for posting this treasure of video.
Christians said Samoans already behaved like Christian’s before they arrived and that makes me sad 😢… I always wonder what if we were the last people to communicate with God physically ❤️
Not at all, your not the only ones ,there many who talked and Worshipped God, before Christianity,
God gave every poeple their culture and God lives among them, obedience to God's laws and culture rules,
I believe befor paganism and Abrahamic religions, poeple of many cultures knew God in different names,
My tribes AGIKUYU CULTURES of kenya, believed in God and even today we do the same and we practice our culture and its rules,and God's laws looks similar to our ancient culture rules,
Have been going through other poeple culture and hearing they had main God ,
Somehow poeple Abrahamic religions confused poeple, just wonder to what end,
I think now most poeple are living Abrahamic religions because they feel their no foundations to the believe,
Since i started learning my tribe culture, i understand God's word more because it sync with my culture 🙏
Atua, Tupua,
I enjoy hearing this info
Great stories! Keep it up!🤩
Will do! We've got some videos about Fiji and Rarotonga coming soon that we think you'll enjoy!
@@OceaniaLoretag me when it is out
Love this
This made me really emotional ❤🥹
Never knew Pulotu was for Samoans too. Tongans pre-christian times believed that their souls rest in Pulotu thus why they perform the "tuki" before their ancestors/fathers grave to ask for a helping hand from Pulotu for the task ahead of them.
Even Fiji has history that they believe that a creature from Pulotu escaped got ravaged their lands.(a giant lizard) but it was probably a croc that escaped the british ships.
New sub great content
All idols
Our bodies will turn back to soil and ashes one day after death
Thank you so much for this! I just wanted to point out that Tagalo Le Tūlī or also called Tagaloa Sāvali is the Daughter of Tagaloa this is why when women get tattooed we also have the markings of Le Tūlīʻs foot prints tattooed on us... europeans often twisted the original genders of our gods. Ive seen it also in 1 book where they turned all the Taupou into men....
The paths where the spirits travel is called PĀSOPOIA or PĀLAʻASIA people of the villages know where they are and when you pass by these paths absolute silence is the rule...
Tamafaigā was an evil high chief and rapist he was killed for trying to rape a Taupou from the village of FASITOʻOTAI....
Malietoa Vaiinupo used this slaying to gain power and LIED that Nāfanua predicted christianity and lied that she told his grandfather that the Malietoa will get his crown from heaven, NĀFANUAS own descendents have confirmed that Malietoa lied!
Also Malietoa Vaiinupō (Medicinal concotion drank at nighttime) was called this because he would drink the blood of slain warriors at night time....
Killing/harm/raping of Women, Children, and Elderly is STRICTLY against Sāmoan culture they are called TINIFŪ, tho sadly many did not follow this sacred rule of war and slayed many women and children especially Malietoa Vaiinupō who had women and children burned alive in the Tītō
Thanks for elaborating on this,I recently learned about the whole Nafanua claim being false.
@@noahtuu3141 yes Malietoa even lied about have a Paluga ava ceremony with the Tui Manuʻa, and saying they created the Taisamasama, nao le fenunumiai solo talaʻaga ota ota e ta fefe e! Te ofoofogia i le au pepelo a li tama la! The Tai Samasama was created by SINA THE DAUGHTER OF TAGALOA THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO
@@tasilua1051 the more I learn about the Malietoa line the more I realize how they've pretty much only brought trouble to us as a people. No wonder the last one died a whoremongering Baha'i
@@noahtuu3141 i like Bahai faith but Malietoa i dont like what they do... also Malietoa Tanumafili 1 sold Samoa out to the Germans
@@tasilua1051 it's extremely sad to think about how German Colonialism took over Samoa and you see their standards and bloodlines still prevalent there today through means of intermarriage. They took Samoan women, degraded our fathers and suppressed our ways and language.
I can't believe I'd find another odd similarity, i only been watching this 2:43 in so I'm not particularly sure, but how strange was it were for me to know that hell in this culture is called E lalom denoting below, this also the same in my native language ilalom for us also means below but not hell in the literal since.
I Lalo
How old is the Turtle and the shark story?
Thank God the good news of Jesus Christ came and saved us from our paganism.
What Christianity did was they repackaged the Sun god and made a man (Jesus) out of it. It’s the greatest story ever told. It’s a mythological story.
@rogerbrunt5918 No! That's not what Christianity did. Since you know the story of the sun, then how is it similar to Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ is unique and the bible is unique. It could have only have been Inspired by the Holy Spirit.
You all wrong! There is no such Jesus in our Polynesian gods religion! Praise our islanda GODS!
Jesus Christ was not even his real name
@@WP-ch3syyes it’s Yeshua but still Jesus Christ is king
The pū is blown like a horn in Hawaii and gurantee it is the same in Samoa. The pū found in a burial 21:35 probably belonged to the person it was burried with. Mahalo for your video. 🙏
Can you please share your references and resources to your Sāmoa videos? Thank you
Sure: The name of the Book that this was read from is 'Old Samoa or Flotsam and Jetsam from the Pacific Ocean' written by Reverend John B. Stair. Keep in mind as per the disclaimer this book should not be taken as an authoritative source. Digital Copies of the book can be found on Project Gutenberg and the New Zealand Electronic Text Collection.
I would very much careful when a palagi missionary wrote our history.
@@rogerbrunt5918yes very true, they could have easily twisted words or made up stories.. I don't believe everything that's written or told by them
@@rogerbrunt5918ironically your country worships a palangi Jesus 😂
@@YallNotWhite_YourPINKsadly my people adopted many of the palagi ways including their god.
This the first time I heard of this
Who were the Puqu? Pakwuik? Patakwe? and Pakalali?
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Similar to Hawaiians myth & belief, all relatives of MU
💯% TRUE STORY🔥
Yea, ours is a white owl.
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Where did the Gods go?They lost energy & become weak for they need human energy to live. When men expand their minds they create higher energy that is less chaotic & more stablized. The lower chaotic energies cannot stay together & fade.
Colonization is what you call it. A new belief system installed to control the masses.
Source: Trust me uce
The spirits sound like aliens floating orbs and hairy men
Unfortunately colonisation has led to Christianity which has closed the minds of many Samoans
wonder why we have heaps of fafas.. it was the tagaloas lol
Not the Tagaloa’s it was your bloodline that caused heaps of Fafaz 😂
Ive seen a million samoans and only 2 of them had abs😂
Old Samoa wasn't so fat like now with the influence of globalization.
This guy checking out a million shirtless samoans...
@@bigmac1758 what a funny guy🙄, when you 3-400lbs aint no need for shirtless.. no one said shirtless, thats your own demons in your head uce🤣🤣
@@tangata_rereke4016Your a Hori your opinion is irrelevant here, go watch a colonised video with your Koro. Islanders only here
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Don’t believe everything you see on Nat Geo or the Smithsonian brotha,
Our ancestors knew who they were & where they came from, we didn’t get here on a hope & a whim
Migration of the Pacific
(Descendants of Manasseh)
Legend of Hagoth
Lehi, Nephi, Sam, Joseph,
Hagoth/Hakota/Hako/Ngati-Hako
Hakota, Hawaiiloa, Kanaloa
Haida Gwaii - [Kalonakikeke]Alaska
Hawaii
Havaii - Tahitian
Havaiki - Niue, Marquesas,,
Hawaiki - Māori
Avaiki - Raro-Tongan
Savaii - Samoan
Savaiki - Tongareva
Sawaiki - Fijian
Tahitian Mā ohi
Hawaiian Māoli
Cook Island Māori
Māori
Māori - Hawaiiki Nui, Hawaiiki Roa, Hawaiiki Pamamao
Hawaiian - Kahiki Nui, Kahiki Loa, Kahiki Pamamao
Tahitian - Tawhiti Nui, Tawhiti Roa, Tawhiti Pamamao
Or in the words of our forefathers, an extension from one island, to the next & so forth. Knowing with absolute certainty, that all roads,, lead home. This is real history & heritage taught by those who live it & keep it very much "Alive & Well" even today, with Hawaiki Atea being,, the Home of God
Father/Homeland of Kanaloa
Atea - Marquesas Islands
Akea -
Makea - Aotearoa
Vatea - Society Islands
Vakea -
Wakea - Hawaii
Hagoth in Nuhaka
bookofmormonevidence.org/hagoth-polynesia/
Hagoth & the Polynesians
rsc.byu.edu/book-mormon-alma-testimony-word/hagoth-polynesians
Hawaiian Rain Dancers
ua-cam.com/video/Y0vbRhL__l4/v-deo.html
Native American Prophecy of
the BoM [Cherokee]
ua-cam.com/video/2L3FvGc3XKY/v-deo.html
2nd Māori King’s Prophecy of the BoM [King Tawhiao]
bycommonconsent.com/2013/05/01/mormon-maori-prophecies-apostasy/
King Tawhiao
“Our church is coming from the east-not a church paid with money. Its ministers go two by two; when they pray they raise their hands. They will not come to go among the Pakeha (Europeans) but will dine, live, talk, & sleep with you. The sign will be the writing of the names of males, females & children. … Those churches that have already come are nothing, but when these come that I speak about, do not disturb them-that will be your church!”
Ancestral Roots [Te Jewry]
shalom.kiwi/2016/07/te-jewry/
Hebrews in Meso-America
ua-cam.com/video/XIR0SFgxS7g/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/t19VnornoF8/v-deo.html
House of Lehi
ua-cam.com/video/1vcem3miWvY/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/FDqIfI1Fwcg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/fb20jNhKLlE/v-deo.html
Nahom
ua-cam.com/video/e6MVOV92cuA/v-deo.html
Land of Thy Inheritance
This is what we’re suppose to believe the #worldsgreatestnavigatorseverperiod!!! backtracked🤦🏽♂️
Hawaiians migrated from their ancient homeland of the Haida Gwaii from the northwest of America [Gwaii & Hawaii meaning Homeland] who, bare striking resemblance in cultural ritual to our own
Research the Tlingit, their customs, beliefs & way of life. You’ll see how our lifestyle was adapted from their protocols. Knowledge that goes right down to the migration of fish, than birds,, that followed thereafter
Eskimo kiss🤥
ua-cam.com/video/-TNY-n8RA3I/v-deo.html
Whilst the Tahitians & the Rapa Nui brought the Kumara & the Peruperu from their homeland of Peru in South America
The Tahitians brought their knowledge of the Stars, Horticulture & Priestly titles,, such as the Kahuna, Tohunga, Tuhuna, Tufuga & Tufua’a (Prophets/Levitical Priesthood). You see, we’ve been mapping stars since we knew how to manipulate the populace into thinking, we could control them (celestial bodies),, think "Apocalypto" That’s how our people knew the constellations before it even became common knowledge to,, average man...
Makalii, the Principle Navigator
“Hawaii-loa was a distinguished man & noted for his fishing excursions, which would occupy sometimes months, sometimes the whole year, during which he would roam about the ocean in his big (wa'a)… with his people, his crew & his officers & navigators (Poe Hookele & Kilo-Hoku)… One time when they had thus been long out on the ocean, Makalii,, the principal navigator, said to Hawaii-loa, ‘Let us steer the vessel in the direction of Iao, the Eastern Star, the discoverer of land (Hoku Hikina Ku O Na Aina). There is land to the eastward, & here is a red star, Hoku Ula [Aldebaran] to guide us, & the land is there in the direction of those big stars which resemble a bird (e kapa mai nei me he manu la);’ & the red star, situated in the lap of the goats (i ka poli o na kao) was called Makalii after the navigator's name… So they steered straight onward & arrived at the easternmost island (ka moku hikina loa). They went ashore & found the country fertile & pleasant, filled with awa, coconut trees, etc., & Hawaii-loa, the chief, called that island after his own name… & the second was named after his oldest son (Maui). These two islands were then uninhabited…. Hawaii-loa & his followers were the first inhabitants…. They had left their wives & children at home; therefore, they returned to fetch them.”
users.on.net/~mkfenn/page2.htm
Navigators of Egypt
(Descendants of Ephraim)
Legend of Māui & Rātā
Māui:
- Te Ika a Māui
As legends would have it, many centuries before the great migration to Aotearoa,, two brothers [Descendants of Ephraim] decided to voyage from their homeland of Egypt. As far as stories go, the brothers [after circumnavigating more than half the globe] would find themselves upon the uninhabited Islands of Hawaii. One of the brothers [supposedly ashamed to return home] opted to stay & settle within the islands naming one in particular,, after himself. The brother, not being satisfied by the fish abound,, decided to find fish further abroad. By using nothing other than the blood from his nose as bait, cast his hook deep within the murky depth. Upon the realisation he was not landing a fish but instead fishing a land, reeled the great fish in naming it also after himself,, Te Ika ā Māui...
Rātā:
- The Enchanted Tree
The brother who did decide to return to his homeland, suffered a few complications of his own. Determined to return to his homeland, he decided to fashion himself a sea worthy vessel capable of offering,, safe passage. Upon selecting a tree of such capability, he began his works. At days end, he had fell & hewn a great tree,, where he than retired from all labour. The next day, to much amazement,, the tree had returned to it’s original position & once again standing upright. So, he immediately,, repeated the process & laboured with the passing of another day. When the third day dawned & again, the tree was upright & back to it’s original form. & again the brother repeated the process, but this time he decided to see,, who had undone all his work. To much surprise, the brother noticed all the Forrest birds, insects & wild life, labour to restore the tree to it’s former prestige. Upon hearing their incantations, the brother sprang from hiding & spoke to the children of Tane Mahuta, so it is you,, who restore my tree. In which, the children of Tane Mahuta replied,, who hath given you authority to fell the Forrest God to the ground. When the brother had heard this, he was quite & overcome with shame. The offspring of Tane all called out aloud to him saying, return to the village,, for we shall make a canoe for you. & thus, it was so...
Rātā - Aotearoa
Rata - Tahiti
Ata - Tuamotu
Aka - Marquesas
Laka - Hawaii
Lata - Samoa
Lasa - Tonga
Stone Wall structure of Waipoua Forest depicting the Name of the Most High Living God of my Forefathers in Hebrew text, not English or Hindi
Pukana, Blahhh,,😝😜😛
Stone Wall Structure (Waipoua Forest)
ua-cam.com/video/OKbMPd0sIWc/v-deo.html
Demonstration of Māui
docplayer.net/55714078-A-voyage-around-the-world-in-the-third-century-b-c.html
archive.schillerinstitute.com/fidelio_archive/1999/fidv08n01-1999Sp/fidv08n01-1999Sp_014-on_eratosthenes_mauis_voyage_and-lar.pdf
Trilithon
The Megalithic Gate of Ha-amonga a Maui | Ancient Origins
Gosford Glyphs
ua-cam.com/video/CsG1C-52MCI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Q1SRpziFSCg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/zjg-l3DnzjY/v-deo.html
Throwing Sticks of Tut
ua-cam.com/video/fHT6zYxIpNI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/lfUcGiM_Yk8/v-deo.html
Voyagers of the Sunrise
core.ac.uk/download/15094914.pdf
Yet now Samoans are Christian’s and Mormons. Why not favor the religion of the ancestors?. Makes no sense to let Europeans indoctrinate Polynesians into their preferred religion. Take it back to the roots. Don’t get lost in another peoples religion when it’s been inside all along…
Navigators of Egypt
(Descendants of Ephraim)
Legend of Māui & Rātā
Māui:
- Te Ika a Māui
As legends would have it, many centuries before the great migration to Aotearoa,, two brothers [Descendants of Ephraim] decided to voyage from their homeland of Egypt. As far as stories go, the brothers [after circumnavigating more than half the globe] would find themselves upon the uninhabited Islands of Hawaii. One of the brothers [supposedly ashamed to return home] opted to stay & settle within the islands naming one in particular,, after himself. The brother, not being satisfied by the fish abound,, decided to find fish further abroad. By using nothing other than the blood from his nose as bait, cast his hook deep within the murky depth. Upon the realisation he was not landing a fish but instead fishing a land, reeled the great fish in naming it also after himself,, Te Ika ā Māui...
Rātā:
- The Enchanted Tree
The brother who did decide to return to his homeland, suffered a few complications of his own. Determined to return to his homeland, he decided to fashion himself a sea worthy vessel capable of offering,, safe passage. Upon selecting a tree of such capability, he began his works. At days end, he had fell & hewn a great tree,, where he than retired from all labour. The next day, to much amazement,, the tree had returned to it’s original position & once again standing upright. So, he immediately,, repeated the process & laboured with the passing of another day. When the third day dawned & again, the tree was upright & back to it’s original form. & again the brother repeated the process, but this time he decided to see,, who had undone all his work. To much surprise, the brother noticed all the Forrest birds, insects & wild life, labour to restore the tree to it’s former prestige. Upon hearing their incantations, the brother sprang from hiding & spoke to the children of Tane Mahuta, so it is you,, who restore my tree. In which, the children of Tane Mahuta replied,, who hath given you authority to fell the Forrest God to the ground. When the brother had heard this, he was quite & overcome with shame. The offspring of Tane all called out aloud to him saying, return to the village,, for we shall make a canoe for you. & thus, it was so...
Rātā - Aotearoa
Rata - Tahiti
Ata - Tuamotu
Aka - Marquesas
Laka - Hawaii
Lata - Samoa
Lasa - Tonga
Stone Wall structure of Waipoua Forest depicting the Name of the Most High Living God of my Forefathers in Hebrew text, not English or Hindi
Pukana, Blahhh,,😝😜😛
Stone Wall Structure (Waipoua Forest)
ua-cam.com/video/OKbMPd0sIWc/v-deo.html
Demonstration of Māui
docplayer.net/55714078-A-voyage-around-the-world-in-the-third-century-b-c.html
archive.schillerinstitute.com/fidelio_archive/1999/fidv08n01-1999Sp/fidv08n01-1999Sp_014-on_eratosthenes_mauis_voyage_and-lar.pdf
Trilithon
The Megalithic Gate of Ha-amonga a Maui | Ancient Origins
Gosford Glyphs
ua-cam.com/video/CsG1C-52MCI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/Q1SRpziFSCg/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/zjg-l3DnzjY/v-deo.html
Throwing Sticks of Tut
ua-cam.com/video/fHT6zYxIpNI/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/lfUcGiM_Yk8/v-deo.html
Voyagers of the Sunrise
core.ac.uk/download/15094914.pdf
Cap town 😂
Dumb town🤣😂
Tagaloa - lagi is just another word for the Egyptian god Thoth.
Stop lying
Who cares about samoa now his God is crack
Says the idiot who watched the vid.😂😂😂😂😂
This man talk , tell all lies, nothing happened in samoan like what he said, and picture is like maori and india face, all is fake
Just because you don’t know, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It is a fact that Samoa had their own god (Tagaloa) before Christianty arrived in 1830. Now I know where my family name Taula in Ta’u, Manu’a came from.
Its all true. This is an a.i voice reading from a diary written in the 1800s. I forget the name of the diary but this is all common info. Have you not heard of kramer?
The pictures are a.i generated, its an ai interpretation of samoans, just some random computer art to go along with the story. Its unrelated
These are myths and Legends passed down by mouth by Samoan Ancestors
Sorry about the faces uce. Tangaloa wasn't available for a photo 😅😅
@@ChrisEAdlaywritten from a white man or a old Samoan ancestor. Because they could have easily made up some stories and add there little lies and even left out a whole lot of stuff..
UK left brainers
US right brainers
Poly’s know brainers 😂
What's a know brainer? Shame!!! when you think your funny but you look like you need to go back too school.😂
Says that guy who incorrectly said “know” instead of “no.” Try again.😂😂😂😂😂
TAGALOA LAGI meaning GOD in HEAVEN all the Pacifica Islanders should know dis history with our GOD in heaven 👹 and his fallen angels and their giants monsters kids got nothing on us we have TAGALO LAGI
Tagaloa lagi was a man, if he were a god he wouldn't have died...
I was very interested to find this piece on Samoan belief systems pre European. But disappointingly, I found the commentary or narration hard to listen to as the annunciation of the Samoan language is so woefully inaccurate.
If you're going to present an historical account of another cultures history, it would be far more respectful and appropriate to engage someone of that culture to narrate it.
There are ideological concepts in Samoan ancient belief systems that the writer/s have conceptualized from a European perspective, which if you are wanting your audience to be educated and enlightened as to what pre European - pre christian beliefs our people held, then maybe you should have consulted Samoans who are schooled and knowledgeable in its ancient history.
Also, the illustrations you've used to tell your story and portray our history I found childish and condescending.