I think a lot of people view Peter Pans flight as the most nostalgic ride, the music and everything just brings people back into their childhood visits to disneyland or magic kingdom
I remember riding Peter Pan's Flight in the 1970s and getting on and off many times in a row. Even on Easter Sunday. Also one of the mermaids was topless.
I know Peter Pan's my personal favorite, as a ride and as a movie. I also love the book/play and read/watch pretty much any version I can get my hands on. I hope they never get rid of it like they did with Tower of Terror.
its funny how they keep doing the floor track thing too. Keep everything behind your line of sight. Duh. Then again they killed Star Wars which anyone would have thought it was kill proof. They need to hire old ideas not new ones. They don't work. Duh
I understand that they only made one actually, making a vehicle that hangs from the ceiling, rotates and moves is very difficult and hard to make safe for the guests. I remember watching the "making of" video of a dark ride attraction in the Netherlands that also uses hanging vehicles which turn around, it was so difficult for them to make it work properly and be safe at the same time that they almost had to cancel it. Luckily for them they also managed to do it, and that dark ride attraction also became their most popular attraction in the whole park. Hanging dark ride attractions seem to be a lot more fun, no?
To expand on the ride capacity issue, Peter Pan only can have 2 people per car because the cars hang in the air. Snow White and Pinocchio can have 4 per but the track is on the ground. Some slow rides like Pooh have a max of 6 people per car. Haunted Mansion also has their conveyed loading area which is super fast to load people and have people exit.
Yes, the load/unload time doesn't help it. If you pay attention, you will see that people will get on, ride through, and be back to the load station only after one or two other ships have left. When it takes barely less time to load a train that it does to get through the ride, then you are looking at a low guest turnover!
False. Peter Pan’s capacity is 5. Pinocchio and Snow’s capacity is 12. Toad’s is 6. Alice’s is 8. People think it’s two because they don’t work the attraction and just follow whatever everyone else does.
I worked this attraction at Disneyland in Anaheim. Never were we able to move 1000 per hour through the attraction. Loading is tough. Usually 2-3 per flying boat. No second seat. Any guest not paying attention starves the dispatch as they meander-into the seat. The seat is low and the safety bar was big. Starving the dispatch means the ride is able to release a boat into the ride but we are waiting for the guests to sit down. It’s also a more popular attraction than SnowWhite. The queue is very interactive. This is a great attraction.
Floridian here; our PPF is always packed, too! I haven't ridden it since I was a toddler because of the endless wait. :( I'm hoping to score a ride on it sometime in the future! Very interesting video.
Here's a hint... ride late but don't use a fast pass because the 'slow' line (at WDW) takes you through the pre-ride interactive area which is the children's bedroom.... which is almost as neat as the ride itself.
At a grand old age (65) I still visit Disney World in Florida twice a year even though I live in the UK. Sometimes I get a Fast Pass for Peter Pan and other times, I walk by seeing the massive queues. Thank you for filling in some history here - I enjoyed it all! Great! Magic Fairy Dust to all! #fastpassfactsgiveaway
Me and my family just got extremely lucky a couple days ago, we got off it’s a small world right when magic kingdom closed and we went over to Peter pans fligt ride and asked if they are still open and the ride attendant was about to say no and then I think it was his manager said “you guys will be our last riders” and it was so empty! We got extremely lucky and I’ll always remember that lol and we have been dying to go on it the past couple of years but the wait times are always hours!!
This was really interesting, but it doesn't really explain why Peter Pan in Disney World is always crowded. The other rides in Fantasyland aren't like they are in Disneyland, so I'm not sure what would make it so crowded here other than it just being popular.
Well I can tell you why it's so crowded at Disney World and I came here thinking it would be brought up because it's in the channel's name: FASTPASS. Really think about it. Peter Pan's Flight in Disney World is an omnimover ride. Therefore, it is constantly loading. Shouldn't the line be constantly moving?? Well, because Disney lets in about 80 fastpass riders for 20 standby line riders, that's why Peter Pan's Flight's line sucks. More anecdotes for proof: The Peoplemover in Tomorrowland does not have fastpass (fortunately, it likely never will as there's no place to hold a queue) and the line is never more than 10 minutes. In addition, Spaceship Earth at EPCOT used to not have fastpass and the line was never more than 10 minutes. Now that they've added fastpasses to Spaceship Earth, the line regularly hits 50 minutes. The moral of the story: omnimover rides SHOULD NOT have a fastpass line. The ride is constantly loading and therefore they should have ONE line that is constantly moving.
Omnimover is a ride system in which the vehicles are all connected and the ride never stops moving. Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan's Flight (at Walt Disney World), The Peoplemover, Spaceship Earth and Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin are all omnimover rides. There's more but those are just some for the sake of demonstration. Since these rides never stop moving, it means that people are constantly being loaded onto the ride. This should mean that the line for the ride should constantly be moving since the people at the front of the line are constantly being loaded onto the ride. The reason the line is not always constantly moving is because the people who use fastpasses on these attractions are taking priority and at Disney, the ratio I typically hear is 80 fastpass liners to 20 standby liners. The cast member at the merge must wait for 80 people to go through the fastpass line until he takes 20 people from the standby queue. THAT is why Peter Pan's Flight has a long standby line. If the fastpasses were removed from Peter Pan's Flight, I could guarantee there would never be more than 30 minute wait. EVER. But Disney doesn't want that ;)
Well allow me to check the apps right now for comparison (I understand I am checking at only one particular moment so this isn't the best demonstration but.. a demonstration no less) At 3:08 pm in Walt Disney World, Peter Pan's Flight has a wait time of 85 minutes At 12:08 pm in Disneyland, Peter Pan's Flight has a wait time of 35 minutes. Also keep in mind that the Disneyland version is not an omnimover ride. So at the loading dock, the ride vehicles come to a stop. And yes, this does make a very large difference.
michaelthebishop Exactamundo. This video starts off with the title Why is Peter Pan so Crowded and then it ends almost 15 mins later with tag “So that’s the story of Peter Pan’s Flight”. Well, which one is it? The only SINGLE reason is the FastPass system and this video completely missed that point, instead opting to go over an in-depth (and interesting) story about the DL version of this ride. Good effort, though.
For those visiting Disneyland in Anaheim: if you want to ride Peter Pan's Flight without a huge line, there are two ways I can think of, but both take a lot of effort and still involve waiting. First, you can try and get to the ride as soon as Disneyland opens, which involves arriving AT LEAST 30-45 min prior to park opening. Try this method on a day that Disneyland does not offer Magic Morning (1-hr early entry for Disney Resort Hotel guests and 3+ Day ticket holders), otherwise the line will likely be full right at rope drop. Second method is to hang around the Fantasyland area around the time the fireworks are scheduled to start. All those rides are shut down during the fireworks and reopen as soon as they get the all clear from the fire marshall. Before and during the fireworks, a line begins to form for those who want to ride Peter Pan as soon as it reopens. If you see this line starting to form, join it! Just note that sometimes, it can take 45 min to an hour after the fireworks to reopen, but that's a risk you may have to take. Long story short, if you want to ride this thing you're just about guaranteed a long wait. It's up to you whether you spend that time in the ride queue, outside the park gates, or waiting for the attraction to reopen after the firworks.
coolness06 Wow, rides shut down during the fireworks in Disneyland!? That's weird! They don't in Disney World. In fact the best time to get on a ride is during the parades and fireworks because most guests go to watch, usually leaving wait times for rides significantly shorter.
Pebblemist of RiverClan Only the Fantasyland attractions. They are within close proximity to the castle and many of the fireworks are shot from the castle
Pebblemist of RiverClan WDW doesn't have that issue because the fireworks are actually shot behind the park not the castle! So no worries on fire issues
Game BreakerTM Disneyland's fireworks are also shot behind the park, but also have smaller shells fired off of the castle for a more immersive experience
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The only time I got on the ride was when a really sweet cast member let us skip the line. My brother was crying, and he let us on the ride to make him feel better.
Wow! I learned so much about Peter Pan’s Flight that I didn’t know before! I appreciate the amount of research and time Fastpass Facts puts into each episode. Thank you for producing great content!
The ride is not free from scary things. There is a huge Skull Rock, we see Tiger Lilly tied up, Wendy is about to walk the plank and plunge into shark infested waters, Captain Hook is there and he is not friendly either, plus he is shooting cannons at your ship as you gleefully fly over Neverland. I am not sure if I buy that theory that the other dark rides are scary but NOT Peter Pan. But I do like this terrific and entertaining video all about such a classic Disney attraction.
LOve all of these fun facts and information. Peter Pan's Flight is one of our favorite attractions at Disneyland and it inspired our group. We totally agree on why Peter Pan's Flight is always crowed. It definitely is the most heartwarming and least scariest out of all of the Fantasyland dark rides. :)
Peter Pan's Flight's ridiculous wait times are mostly due to the fastpass system being implemented onto an omnimover ride. While everything stated in the video is correct, the biggest factor in the long lines (at least for the Walt Disney World version) was completely omitted.
I can believe that! Disneyland not to recently added a fastpass to the Matterhorn Bobsleds, and adding a fastpass just made things worse! It was a ride that never needed a fastpass. The line usually was between 15-30 minutes. It was extremely rare to see it reach 45. However, they added a fastpass to it, and now standby is typically 30+ minutes, getting to 45 frequently, and sometimes more than that, which never happened before fastpasses. They can be great for some rides, but for rides that don't need them, they just create a problem instead of fixing a nonexistent one.
michaelthebishop well at Disneyworld they don’t have Pinocchio or Snow Whites Scary adventure so they aren’t really battling other old dark rides. Little mermaid and haunted mansion have a conveyer belt so they are a lot faster. I think what keeps Peter Pan is so busy is the fact that there’s no height or age restrictions so it’s okay for everybody to board and it’s family friendly, like the video says. Also, it flies!
Nothing you said made any coherent sense... First, It's A Small World is right across the way. And even when Snow White was open at Disney World, Peter Pan still had a long ass wait. I hope you do realize that omnimover ride system is the same thing as what you called "a conveyer belt." Peter Pan is undoubtedly popular but the primary reason Peter Pan's Flight has a long line at Walt Disney World is the fastpass plus system.
I hate fast passes so much. All they do is fuck with the casual experience and I gotta treat getting to the parks as a damn strategy game in order to do anything that day. Plan the game in the car in the way over. I want to sit on a bench, people watch, eat a pretzel, and look at a map to find where I should go next rather than count down the minutes to my window.
PPF was the longest line we had to go through at WDW when we last went. Luckily, everything in the “house” seemed to be working and it was quite the experience. It was probably an hour wait, but it was worth it. The Whole family loved it!
The Soaring Over California music is such a blast from the past. I haven't been on that ride in forever and now it's been remade into.... Soaring over the World :P
You're a great edition to the team. Really well researched with more love and history than the topic implied. Sometimes videos can repeat basic information acting as the meat of a video, but the 5 facts at the end treated as extra are the perfect way to present them.
soo happy with this video! loved especially the hidden mickey in the big ben tower. Peter Pan is my favourite ride! so excited to have found your channel!
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Welcome to the channel! Mom told me once that Peter Pan and Mr. Toad used to be known as the scariest rides at Disneyland! I have to laugh about that everytimev I get on those rides. I always wondered what happened to the restaurant. We went in once to look at it but never ate there. We just thought that the wood rotted away. This video was very informative, thanks!
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nimphaelis true And I've enjoyed visiting it the 3 times I've been there But no tuna sandwiches or tuna burgers - with little plastic pirate swords - sigh
I miss that ship too and they had the best tuna fish sandwiches. Plus not too many people went there to eat lunch so you had your pick of where to sit.
john k - I don't know what Walt did to make those sandwiches so amazingly delicious. I hated fish, but after my buddies raved about these sandwiches I took a nibble from one the guys were eating. Magic happened! It was delicious, so good I had to buy one myself. My craving for another fish sandwich has never left. The cursed green walls took the pirate ship and the magical lagoon in which it rested.
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Just wanted to say, your editing skills are fantastic. This channel should be way bigger.
This video is AMAZING! Thank you so much for making it :) this is my favorite Disney ride, movie and character! So fun learning all of these new facts!
Why? Because it's the FIRST one you see. Unlike Snow White which is around a corner, same with Pinocchio. And yes, everyone over-hyped it over the last few decades saying it's a MUST ride attraction. -_- I haven't touched it in years because of the huge crowds. I cannot stand in the heat, and yes it gets HOT out there. It really needs an overhaul in the area.
I always enjoyed the ride because of the way you were meant to feel as if you were flying over London and on to Neverland. Good video and thanks Will good job.
It's an airconditioner island in Florida to get away from the heat. Also the overhead track pluses that dark ride out of the ballpark. Great soundtrack too. One could say Small World is also an air conditioner island in the north end of the Kingdom, but that sound. omg the sound.
I’m a Californian living in China. I actually started tearing up when I saw Peter Pan’s Flight in Shanghai because it was so magical yet still had all of the nostalgia
That shirt looked awesome! Love me some Disney, love me some Peter Pan too!!! Definitely subscribed to this channel, love learning new things, thanks for the great video.
Me and my family love the old classic rides like peter pan's flight and its a small world. i remember going to this ride with my brother last year and seeing the new line setup. yeah we ended up waiting 2 hours for a older ride, but they did a good job making the lines interactive. the only thing i did not like about the interactive part was that the line got held up for so long due to people wanting to play with the wall screen. But this ride is a classic and we love it :)
This has ALWAYS been my favorite ride and I have been going to Disneyland for over 50 years! Yes, much like Peter, I don't want to EVER grow up! Throughout the changes that have been completed on the ride, I think the thing I miss most is the fog and clouds as you are flying over London. I understand the reason these were taken out, ie; people spitting their gum onto the clouds or throwing trash in them to see it suspended in the air, but I still miss it. Removing that took away some of the magical element and reality of flying OVER London! Thanks for the excellent video! #fastpassfactsgiveaway
I love this...another interesting fact about the attraction if you ever wanna update....when you enter the Nursery at Disneyland...you see Nanna the dog?....she's the one remaining item from the original 1955 attraction. I learned about that fact from a cast member prior to attractions opening with the new effects in 2015. :).
When I was little, I loved Peter Pan, and of course, that was before Fastpass. So during our trips, about twice a day, my parents would wait 45-90 minutes in that line with me. Thanks, mom and dad.
I used to be a Fantadyland RO CM at Disneyland and Peter Pan's Flight was always a fun stop on our rotation of the east side dark rides. This was 15 years ago'ish so it was in between the previous update and the latest. The CM that opened the ride every morning would rearange the blocks in the nursery to spell out something Peter Pan related so it was a new experience every day. We also were the test facility for the "new" Tokyo Disneyland's Peter Pan's Flight Guest movement system. Instead of the pirate ships tat flew you from scene to scene the Guest (in groups of 4s) were encased in a body harness that pivoted to give the illusion that they were flying along w/ Peter, Tink and the Darling children. It was great, it was fun but i guess apparently scrubbed as it never made it to the ride. Those were fun times working there.
I think the answer is simple. People dream about flying! Dumbo always has a ridiculous line for the same reason. WDW even added a second Dumbo ride to remedy this problem. The idea of flying and visiting an island where you don’t have to succumb to old age is wildly appealing to most everyone.
I totally ride it at both parks, but do so early. I love the tranquil feeling of "flying" Soarin' is the only other attraction that gives you that sensation. I took my sister (she was 45 years old @ the time) She loved it, but complained that in the Magic Kingdom they use Good Year speed ramps to assist in the exit of the ride. She said it seemed we got the "bums rush" to exit and buy souvenirs of the attractions. LOL
As a Disney vet, this strategy still holds. When it opens go straight to Fantasyland. We tackled Dumbo and then Peter Pan, because you have about 30 minutes before everything fills up. I always guessed it was crowded because of the overhead feature of the ride. The other four are grounded. And the most popular after Peter Pan is Alice which has a few parts outside on supports. Good to know about those renovations.
Really interesting and thorough! I have to wonder if Disney has ever considered spending the money to make a parallel track for the ride to alleviate the long lines?
I agree with you, the interactive line que at WDW is absolutely amazing, I went 3 years ago over the summer and I got to go on the ride. It was so great
It's the flying motion. It just feels great. Plus, the use of Tinkerbell in the fireworks just makes you WANT to go on the ride again. Last time I was in Disney World, I had some sort of list which ride I went on the most during the week. Peter Pan ended up on the top, followed by Splash Mountain. Granted, Splash mountain would have won against it if not for the long waiting times there if you don't (like me) are there when the park opens and go a few rounds before it becomes crowded. But Peter Pan is pretty high up on my favourite rides, and I am apparently not the only one feeling that way.
Good question lol! We rope drop it because I don’t want to use a fast pass for it and I refuse to wait a long time for it. Pooh is 2nd. This is while everyone else is headed to the mine train.
I personally love it because ever since I could remember I have always been obsessed with miniature models! They are so fascinating and beautiful and feeling huge as a kid was pretty freakin cool!
The endless waiting for this ride is a pain for sure. I kidd you not I had a nightmare regularly for two years where I attended the park and never got to ride Peter Pans Flight. Best believe when I got to visit Disneyland Paris...getting a fast pass was the FIRST thing I did. Super fun seeing the variance in all of the parks! I’ve only been to Orland and Paris. Would love to ride the original in California!
The only issue with the perspective in the rides are when you see the ship's shadow which is theory should be small but because you are close to the ground it is big.
I usually have to go to the Disneyland in Paris since it is much closer but it is amazing there. However, it is very crowded like you said. Sometimes the Fast Pass lanes take longer than the ordinary lanes! We have Adventure Land at Disneyland Paris so Skull Rock and the ship are in a completely different area. It's right next to the Pirate's of the Carribbean ride too.
I've always thought it was simply the ideal midpoint for a full park tour. We always used to start left through Adventure & Frontier Lands... & others starting in Tomorrowland also probably end up at Peter Pan around the same time behind the castle.
Touring Plans observed Peter Pan’s Flight in Disneyland takes 11 min per 100 riders. That’s 545 riders per hour where Pinocchio’s Daring Journey has a capacity of 8 mins per 100 riders (750/hr). That would account for the 45 min wait for Pan when it’s 15 min wait Pinocchio. The dispatch intervals are about the same but the vehicles hold 1 row instead of 2. I enjoyed the video!
I think a lot of people view Peter Pans flight as the most nostalgic ride, the music and everything just brings people back into their childhood visits to disneyland or magic kingdom
Agreed!! This video gave me chills!!
this was the first ride I ever went on during my first visit to Disneyland when I was 4 so it holds a special place in my heart
I've always thought it was crowded because it was a classic from around opening day. And people really love Peter Pan.
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I remember riding Peter Pan's Flight in the 1970s and getting on and off many times in a row. Even on Easter Sunday. Also one of the mermaids was topless.
I know Peter Pan's my personal favorite, as a ride and as a movie. I also love the book/play and read/watch pretty much any version I can get my hands on. I hope they never get rid of it like they did with Tower of Terror.
Peter Pan peanut butter maybe but Peter Pan the ride no
4 words: only hanging dark ride.
its funny how they keep doing the floor track thing too. Keep everything behind your line of sight. Duh. Then again they killed Star Wars which anyone would have thought it was kill proof. They need to hire old ideas not new ones. They don't work. Duh
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I believe there is one in like asia somewhere about color being stolen from the universe idk I saw it on Theme Park Review
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I understand that they only made one actually, making a vehicle that hangs from the ceiling, rotates and moves is very difficult and hard to make safe for the guests. I remember watching the "making of" video of a dark ride attraction in the Netherlands that also uses hanging vehicles which turn around, it was so difficult for them to make it work properly and be safe at the same time that they almost had to cancel it. Luckily for them they also managed to do it, and that dark ride attraction also became their most popular attraction in the whole park.
Hanging dark ride attractions seem to be a lot more fun, no?
To expand on the ride capacity issue, Peter Pan only can have 2 people per car because the cars hang in the air. Snow White and Pinocchio can have 4 per but the track is on the ground. Some slow rides like Pooh have a max of 6 people per car. Haunted Mansion also has their conveyed loading area which is super fast to load people and have people exit.
Yes, the load/unload time doesn't help it. If you pay attention, you will see that people will get on, ride through, and be back to the load station only after one or two other ships have left. When it takes barely less time to load a train that it does to get through the ride, then you are looking at a low guest turnover!
Peter pan is an omnimover too though. Unless that's just at wdw
KMichelle Argus the DL one isn't onmimover just looked
False. Peter Pan’s capacity is 5. Pinocchio and Snow’s capacity is 12. Toad’s is 6. Alice’s is 8. People think it’s two because they don’t work the attraction and just follow whatever everyone else does.
Martha Linden Dude you literally couldn’t fit more than 3 grown adults in Peter Pan. You could only get to 5 if 4 of them were young children.
I worked this attraction at Disneyland in Anaheim. Never were we able to move 1000 per hour through the attraction. Loading is tough. Usually 2-3 per flying boat. No second seat. Any guest not paying attention starves the dispatch as they meander-into the seat. The seat is low and the safety bar was big. Starving the dispatch means the ride is able to release a boat into the ride but we are waiting for the guests to sit down.
It’s also a more popular attraction than SnowWhite. The queue is very interactive. This is a great attraction.
Floridian here; our PPF is always packed, too! I haven't ridden it since I was a toddler because of the endless wait. :( I'm hoping to score a ride on it sometime in the future! Very interesting video.
Sami Dark .. Tip: Ride late.. at almost park's closing
I got in line during the fireworks at night. Sad to miss it, but there was only about a 20 minute wait
I never rode this as a kid. First ride was at WDW when I was 18. It was fun and all but a 2 hour wait? Never.
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Here's a hint... ride late but don't use a fast pass because the 'slow' line (at WDW) takes you through the pre-ride interactive area which is the children's bedroom.... which is almost as neat as the ride itself.
At a grand old age (65) I still visit Disney World in Florida twice a year even though I live in the UK. Sometimes I get a Fast Pass for Peter Pan and other times, I walk by seeing the massive queues. Thank you for filling in some history here - I enjoyed it all! Great! Magic Fairy Dust to all! #fastpassfactsgiveaway
Me and my family just got extremely lucky a couple days ago, we got off it’s a small world right when magic kingdom closed and we went over to Peter pans fligt ride and asked if they are still open and the ride attendant was about to say no and then I think it was his manager said “you guys will be our last riders” and it was so empty! We got extremely lucky and I’ll always remember that lol and we have been dying to go on it the past couple of years but the wait times are always hours!!
This was really interesting, but it doesn't really explain why Peter Pan in Disney World is always crowded. The other rides in Fantasyland aren't like they are in Disneyland, so I'm not sure what would make it so crowded here other than it just being popular.
Well I can tell you why it's so crowded at Disney World and I came here thinking it would be brought up because it's in the channel's name: FASTPASS. Really think about it. Peter Pan's Flight in Disney World is an omnimover ride. Therefore, it is constantly loading. Shouldn't the line be constantly moving?? Well, because Disney lets in about 80 fastpass riders for 20 standby line riders, that's why Peter Pan's Flight's line sucks. More anecdotes for proof: The Peoplemover in Tomorrowland does not have fastpass (fortunately, it likely never will as there's no place to hold a queue) and the line is never more than 10 minutes. In addition, Spaceship Earth at EPCOT used to not have fastpass and the line was never more than 10 minutes. Now that they've added fastpasses to Spaceship Earth, the line regularly hits 50 minutes. The moral of the story: omnimover rides SHOULD NOT have a fastpass line. The ride is constantly loading and therefore they should have ONE line that is constantly moving.
michaelthebishop Can you explain what being an omnimover ride has to do with long wait times? I’ve never heard the term omnimover.
Omnimover is a ride system in which the vehicles are all connected and the ride never stops moving. Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan's Flight (at Walt Disney World), The Peoplemover, Spaceship Earth and Buzz Lightyear Space Ranger Spin are all omnimover rides. There's more but those are just some for the sake of demonstration. Since these rides never stop moving, it means that people are constantly being loaded onto the ride. This should mean that the line for the ride should constantly be moving since the people at the front of the line are constantly being loaded onto the ride. The reason the line is not always constantly moving is because the people who use fastpasses on these attractions are taking priority and at Disney, the ratio I typically hear is 80 fastpass liners to 20 standby liners. The cast member at the merge must wait for 80 people to go through the fastpass line until he takes 20 people from the standby queue. THAT is why Peter Pan's Flight has a long standby line. If the fastpasses were removed from Peter Pan's Flight, I could guarantee there would never be more than 30 minute wait. EVER. But Disney doesn't want that ;)
Well allow me to check the apps right now for comparison (I understand I am checking at only one particular moment so this isn't the best demonstration but.. a demonstration no less)
At 3:08 pm in Walt Disney World, Peter Pan's Flight has a wait time of 85 minutes
At 12:08 pm in Disneyland, Peter Pan's Flight has a wait time of 35 minutes.
Also keep in mind that the Disneyland version is not an omnimover ride. So at the loading dock, the ride vehicles come to a stop. And yes, this does make a very large difference.
michaelthebishop Exactamundo. This video starts off with the title Why is Peter Pan so Crowded and then it ends almost 15 mins later with tag “So that’s the story of Peter Pan’s Flight”. Well, which one is it? The only SINGLE reason is the FastPass system and this video completely missed that point, instead opting to go over an in-depth (and interesting) story about the DL version of this ride. Good effort, though.
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For those visiting Disneyland in Anaheim: if you want to ride Peter Pan's Flight without a huge line, there are two ways I can think of, but both take a lot of effort and still involve waiting.
First, you can try and get to the ride as soon as Disneyland opens, which involves arriving AT LEAST 30-45 min prior to park opening. Try this method on a day that Disneyland does not offer Magic Morning (1-hr early entry for Disney Resort Hotel guests and 3+ Day ticket holders), otherwise the line will likely be full right at rope drop.
Second method is to hang around the Fantasyland area around the time the fireworks are scheduled to start. All those rides are shut down during the fireworks and reopen as soon as they get the all clear from the fire marshall. Before and during the fireworks, a line begins to form for those who want to ride Peter Pan as soon as it reopens. If you see this line starting to form, join it! Just note that sometimes, it can take 45 min to an hour after the fireworks to reopen, but that's a risk you may have to take.
Long story short, if you want to ride this thing you're just about guaranteed a long wait. It's up to you whether you spend that time in the ride queue, outside the park gates, or waiting for the attraction to reopen after the firworks.
coolness06 Wow, rides shut down during the fireworks in Disneyland!? That's weird! They don't in Disney World. In fact the best time to get on a ride is during the parades and fireworks because most guests go to watch, usually leaving wait times for rides significantly shorter.
Pebblemist of RiverClan Only the Fantasyland attractions. They are within close proximity to the castle and many of the fireworks are shot from the castle
coolness06 ahh that makes sense! Thanks for sharing this information! :)
Pebblemist of RiverClan WDW doesn't have that issue because the fireworks are actually shot behind the park not the castle! So no worries on fire issues
Game BreakerTM Disneyland's fireworks are also shot behind the park, but also have smaller shells fired off of the castle for a more immersive experience
I love the intro with Soarin music!!! Very magical.
I just found this channel. The production value and quality of this video is extremely good for a large channel, let alone a channel with only 27K subscribers! You guys must really pour your heart and soul into these videos.
The only time I got on the ride was when a really sweet cast member let us skip the line. My brother was crying, and he let us on the ride to make him feel better.
That's such a cute story!
Wow! I learned so much about Peter Pan’s Flight that I didn’t know before! I appreciate the amount of research and time Fastpass Facts puts into each episode. Thank you for producing great content!
The ride is not free from scary things. There is a huge Skull Rock, we see Tiger Lilly tied up, Wendy is about to walk the plank and plunge into shark infested waters, Captain Hook is there and he is not friendly either, plus he is shooting cannons at your ship as you gleefully fly over Neverland. I am not sure if I buy that theory that the other dark rides are scary but NOT Peter Pan. But I do like this terrific and entertaining video all about such a classic Disney attraction.
I think he meant it’s not as dark by comparison, not that it’s completely devoid of darkness
*WHERE THE EFF IS PETER PAN*
I wonder? ???
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LOve all of these fun facts and information. Peter Pan's Flight is one of our favorite attractions at Disneyland and it inspired our group. We totally agree on why Peter Pan's Flight is always crowed. It definitely is the most heartwarming and least scariest out of all of the Fantasyland dark rides. :)
Peter Pan's Flight's ridiculous wait times are mostly due to the fastpass system being implemented onto an omnimover ride. While everything stated in the video is correct, the biggest factor in the long lines (at least for the Walt Disney World version) was completely omitted.
I can believe that! Disneyland not to recently added a fastpass to the Matterhorn Bobsleds, and adding a fastpass just made things worse! It was a ride that never needed a fastpass. The line usually was between 15-30 minutes. It was extremely rare to see it reach 45. However, they added a fastpass to it, and now standby is typically 30+ minutes, getting to 45 frequently, and sometimes more than that, which never happened before fastpasses. They can be great for some rides, but for rides that don't need them, they just create a problem instead of fixing a nonexistent one.
michaelthebishop well at Disneyworld they don’t have Pinocchio or Snow Whites Scary adventure so they aren’t really battling other old dark rides. Little mermaid and haunted mansion have a conveyer belt so they are a lot faster. I think what keeps Peter Pan is so busy is the fact that there’s no height or age restrictions so it’s okay for everybody to board and it’s family friendly, like the video says. Also, it flies!
Nothing you said made any coherent sense... First, It's A Small World is right across the way. And even when Snow White was open at Disney World, Peter Pan still had a long ass wait. I hope you do realize that omnimover ride system is the same thing as what you called "a conveyer belt." Peter Pan is undoubtedly popular but the primary reason Peter Pan's Flight has a long line at Walt Disney World is the fastpass plus system.
I hate fast passes so much. All they do is fuck with the casual experience and I gotta treat getting to the parks as a damn strategy game in order to do anything that day. Plan the game in the car in the way over. I want to sit on a bench, people watch, eat a pretzel, and look at a map to find where I should go next rather than count down the minutes to my window.
The wait times for Peter Pan were long even before the fastpass system existed.
PPF was the longest line we had to go through at WDW when we last went. Luckily, everything in the “house” seemed to be working and it was quite the experience. It was probably an hour wait, but it was worth it. The Whole family loved it!
The Soaring Over California music is such a blast from the past. I haven't been on that ride in forever and now it's been remade into.... Soaring over the World :P
You're a great edition to the team. Really well researched with more love and history than the topic implied. Sometimes videos can repeat basic information acting as the meat of a video, but the 5 facts at the end treated as extra are the perfect way to present them.
Finally an answer to the question everyone asks but never knows the answer to☺️😂
Ok, so this is the first video I've ever seen on this channel, and the intro/theme song/whatever made me almost well up. Good job whoever made that.
soo happy with this video! loved especially the hidden mickey in the big ben tower. Peter Pan is my favourite ride! so excited to have found your channel!
Omg.. that little jingle in the intro that you hear on Star Tours gave me so much nostalgia.. thank you🤙
I. Love these videos. I am 52, never been there, and probably won’t be able to go.. your videos almost make me feel like I’m there. Keep them coming 😉
At 0:53 it says 10,000 instead of 1,000.
1:48 so you're telling me that the fantasyland dark rides...are actually *dark* rides?🤔
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Mom told me once that Peter Pan and Mr. Toad used to be known as the scariest rides at Disneyland! I have to laugh about that everytimev I get on those rides.
I always wondered what happened to the restaurant. We went in once to look at it but never ate there. We just thought that the wood rotted away. This video was very informative, thanks!
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You guys are doing great! This whole video is engaging and well-written, with great visuals. I clicked on it even though I didn't even know what Peter Pan's Flight was because you had a great thumbnail and title, too. As for critiques, I think a clearer microphone with less echo would make the whole thing a little more polished, and the sound effects such as the one at 9:56 could be a bit more subtle so as not to distract from the narration. But overall you guys put together a really informative and engaging video, and I really liked it. I'm so surprised you don't have more subscribers!! keeping up this level of quality I'm sure you'll gain more and more :)
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Ditto. Your presentations are always super-professional, well researched, and to the point.
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I still really miss the pirate ship tuna sandwiches and eating them by the skull rock waterfalls
It was magical
In Paris both the boat and skull rock still exist
nimphaelis true
And I've enjoyed visiting it the 3 times I've been there
But no tuna sandwiches or tuna burgers - with little plastic pirate swords - sigh
I miss that ship too and they had the best tuna fish sandwiches. Plus not too many people went there to eat lunch so you had your pick of where to sit.
john k - I don't know what Walt did to make those sandwiches so amazingly delicious. I hated fish, but after my buddies raved about these sandwiches I took a nibble from one the guys were eating. Magic happened! It was delicious, so good I had to buy one myself. My craving for another fish sandwich has never left. The cursed green walls took the pirate ship and the magical lagoon in which it rested.
Just wanted to say, your editing skills are fantastic. This channel should be way bigger.
Amazing video!! Thanks for going so in depth. Great job!!
This video is AMAZING! Thank you so much for making it :) this is my favorite Disney ride, movie and character! So fun learning all of these new facts!
Why? Because it's the FIRST one you see. Unlike Snow White which is around a corner, same with Pinocchio. And yes, everyone over-hyped it over the last few decades saying it's a MUST ride attraction. -_- I haven't touched it in years because of the huge crowds. I cannot stand in the heat, and yes it gets HOT out there. It really needs an overhaul in the area.
Yeah but it's just as bad at Disney World which does not have any of those other rides anymore- including Snow White.
It's not the first one you see in Paris and still always packed.
Wow! That intro is amazing!! Love your theme opener!
I always enjoyed the ride because of the way you were meant to feel as if you were flying over London and on to Neverland. Good video and thanks Will good job.
Your editing is literally amazing, I'm totally drawn in
Excellent video production work, my man.
I don’t know how you don’t have more subscribers! I just discovered your channel today and just subbed!
Just discovered you guys and you have earned a new sub, keep up the good work!
This is so amazing! Such a complete video!!
It's an airconditioner island in Florida to get away from the heat. Also the overhead track pluses that dark ride out of the ballpark. Great soundtrack too. One could say Small World is also an air conditioner island in the north end of the Kingdom, but that sound. omg the sound.
In California, it's also super crowded, but it's pretty hot there too ;)
Love this video! So much information!! Thank you!
Excellent Channel & vid, Will ♡♡ Made me so Nostalgic for DisneyLand, World, & my fortuitous childhood (I was lucky to have a *Disney Junkie Dad* !!)
I’m a Californian living in China. I actually started tearing up when I saw Peter Pan’s Flight in Shanghai because it was so magical yet still had all of the nostalgia
Makes sense... been on it many times! I always take rides through Fantasyland!! I don't think you can get too old to ride these classic rides!!
That shirt looked awesome! Love me some Disney, love me some Peter Pan too!!! Definitely subscribed to this channel, love learning new things, thanks for the great video.
First time seeing this channel and gotta say that you have one of the best intros ever
Me and my family love the old classic rides like peter pan's flight and its a small world. i remember going to this ride with my brother last year and seeing the new line setup. yeah we ended up waiting 2 hours for a older ride, but they did a good job making the lines interactive. the only thing i did not like about the interactive part was that the line got held up for so long due to people wanting to play with the wall screen. But this ride is a classic and we love it :)
This has ALWAYS been my favorite ride and I have been going to Disneyland for over 50 years! Yes, much like Peter, I don't want to EVER grow up! Throughout the changes that have been completed on the ride, I think the thing I miss most is the fog and clouds as you are flying over London. I understand the reason these were taken out, ie; people spitting their gum onto the clouds or throwing trash in them to see it suspended in the air, but I still miss it. Removing that took away some of the magical element and reality of flying OVER London! Thanks for the excellent video! #fastpassfactsgiveaway
I love this...another interesting fact about the attraction if you ever wanna update....when you enter the Nursery at Disneyland...you see Nanna the dog?....she's the one remaining item from the original 1955 attraction. I learned about that fact from a cast member prior to attractions opening with the new effects in 2015. :).
This is a fabulous video, why have I only just found your channel now. Cheers
When I was little, I loved Peter Pan, and of course, that was before Fastpass. So during our trips, about twice a day, my parents would wait 45-90 minutes in that line with me. Thanks, mom and dad.
I've always loved the Peter Pan ride,but I gotta say that Mr Toad's Wild Ride is my absolute favorite:)
I used to be a Fantadyland RO CM at Disneyland and Peter Pan's Flight was always a fun stop on our rotation of the east side dark rides. This was 15 years ago'ish so it was in between the previous update and the latest. The CM that opened the ride every morning would rearange the blocks in the nursery to spell out something Peter Pan related so it was a new experience every day. We also were the test facility for the "new" Tokyo Disneyland's Peter Pan's Flight Guest movement system. Instead of the pirate ships tat flew you from scene to scene the Guest (in groups of 4s) were encased in a body harness that pivoted to give the illusion that they were flying along w/ Peter, Tink and the Darling children. It was great, it was fun but i guess apparently scrubbed as it never made it to the ride. Those were fun times working there.
Holy crap this editing is so good! 👏🏽 👏🏽
Fantastic video love all the information!!!!! So much I didn’t know keep up the great work!!!
I thought that mermaid was Ariel’s mom, does anyone else agree with me?
BekahBroadway Peter Pan himself told me that her name was Bailey, and that everyone just THOUGHT it was Ariel.
Just discovered your channel! Huge fans. Keep up the great work!
I think the answer is simple. People dream about flying! Dumbo always has a ridiculous line for the same reason. WDW even added a second Dumbo ride to remedy this problem. The idea of flying and visiting an island where you don’t have to succumb to old age is wildly appealing to most everyone.
I totally ride it at both parks, but do so early. I love the tranquil feeling of "flying" Soarin' is the only other attraction that gives you that sensation. I took my sister (she was 45 years old @ the time) She loved it, but complained that in the Magic Kingdom they use Good Year speed ramps to assist in the exit of the ride. She said it seemed we got the "bums rush" to exit and buy souvenirs of the attractions. LOL
wow your video quality is out of this world!!!
Peter Pan has always been my favorite ride, so this was super interesting! Thank you for being so thorough!
As a Disney vet, this strategy still holds. When it opens go straight to Fantasyland. We tackled Dumbo and then Peter Pan, because you have about 30 minutes before everything fills up.
I always guessed it was crowded because of the overhead feature of the ride. The other four are grounded. And the most popular after Peter Pan is Alice which has a few parts outside on supports. Good to know about those renovations.
It's literally my favorite ride ever!! 💖
I’ve been to Disneyland 4 times and only have rode it once because of the line
Really interesting and thorough!
I have to wonder if Disney has ever considered spending the money to make a parallel track for the ride to alleviate the long lines?
this was a well done video, thanks for posting
I agree with you, the interactive line que at WDW is absolutely amazing, I went 3 years ago over the summer and I got to go on the ride. It was so great
Learned so much; thanks for sharing!
Wow, lots of research and info. Thank you!
This editing is so gorgeous
It's the flying motion. It just feels great. Plus, the use of Tinkerbell in the fireworks just makes you WANT to go on the ride again.
Last time I was in Disney World, I had some sort of list which ride I went on the most during the week. Peter Pan ended up on the top, followed by Splash Mountain. Granted, Splash mountain would have won against it if not for the long waiting times there if you don't (like me) are there when the park opens and go a few rounds before it becomes crowded. But Peter Pan is pretty high up on my favourite rides, and I am apparently not the only one feeling that way.
Good question lol! We rope drop it because I don’t want to use a fast pass for it and I refuse to wait a long time for it. Pooh is 2nd. This is while everyone else is headed to the mine train.
5:18 Nice hidden mickey there, very clever
Your graphics are awesome! Talented
I have always wondered this! thanks for the vid
Keep up the good work!!
THANK YOU! I HAVE BEEN WONDERING THIS EVER SINCE I WENT TO DISNEYLAND!
I personally love it because ever since I could remember I have always been obsessed with miniature models! They are so fascinating and beautiful and feeling huge as a kid was pretty freakin cool!
The endless waiting for this ride is a pain for sure. I kidd you not I had a nightmare regularly for two years where I attended the park and never got to ride Peter Pans Flight. Best believe when I got to visit Disneyland Paris...getting a fast pass was the FIRST thing I did. Super fun seeing the variance in all of the parks! I’ve only been to Orland and Paris. Would love to ride the original in California!
Well-done video! Thank you!
Interesting and informative! Subscribing!
I rode the Shanghai one! Its breathtakingly beautiful!
The only issue with the perspective in the rides are when you see the ship's shadow which is theory should be small but because you are close to the ground it is big.
Your narration is excellent
I usually have to go to the Disneyland in Paris since it is much closer but it is amazing there. However, it is very crowded like you said. Sometimes the Fast Pass lanes take longer than the ordinary lanes! We have Adventure Land at Disneyland Paris so Skull Rock and the ship are in a completely different area. It's right next to the Pirate's of the Carribbean ride too.
I've always thought it was simply the ideal midpoint for a full park tour. We always used to start left through Adventure & Frontier Lands... & others starting in Tomorrowland also probably end up at Peter Pan around the same time behind the castle.
That was great really well put together ☺
Touring Plans observed Peter Pan’s Flight in Disneyland takes 11 min per 100 riders. That’s 545 riders per hour where Pinocchio’s Daring Journey has a capacity of 8 mins per 100 riders (750/hr). That would account for the 45 min wait for Pan when it’s 15 min wait Pinocchio. The dispatch intervals are about the same but the vehicles hold 1 row instead of 2. I enjoyed the video!
Scott zookie yes but also people aren’t sharing cars with other riders on Pinocchio even though it has two rows.
elitestar Yes. That is why the metric of observing the riders is used (min per 100 guests) instead of absolutely full vehicles.
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Fantastic video!