At 12-2 they actually made the enemy AI to attack you all at once, the ice cage with the hydro bubbles will spawn at the exact same time to freeze you then a pyro attack and the anemo arrow will hit you afterwards to deal a crap ton of damage amplified by reactions, it is brutal. No wonder your nilou's HP gone red.
i don't even use a dedicated healer with nilou (it's either mona and nahida with prototype amber, or just one of them, and it's more than enough for anything), so of course barbara works being the best healer in the game for raw healing (nothing beats a "press button to full heal entire party" healer. fight me). a nice perk for mine, is that since she is c39, she revives once per abyss if she happens to die.
Tbh I feel that barbara is more comfortable to use than kokomi, but I don't want to waste resources to level barabra since she's lv70 and kokomi already lv85
@@jochaile yeah Kokomi sac frag around 1k plus EM on full team. Skill issue maybe? lol. I havent played nilou team that much, only in spiral abyss for a few hours. But I replaced my elegy collei instructor with yaoyao and kokomi was able to have around half hp unlike always red hp before. Nahida is using her sig teapot too. Maybe I have too much team EM buffs. Tried the team again using elegy full emblem Collei for a bit of dps then switched to my support Kokomi with full tenacity build and things are going smoothly. I'll probably get full clam set on her or just the tenacity for now. Need to play around with my full EM kokomi build too with dodging and s since the blooms of death are just so satisfying
@@jochaile yep. My alt account is using barbara too full EM. Got nilou on that account as well during her rerun. Works fine in flr 12 even if barbara is only lvl80
I use the same team But Yaoyao instead of Dendro MC.. (4pc Instructor lmao) Barbara with 4pc Flowers of Paradise Lost Nahida with 4pc DW Nilou with new 2pc HP, and tenacity 2pc HP set
Yes u should. Easily build just with barbara trav dendro and nahida/collei. U dont need up talent tho all character just up healer talent 😂 and easy to build just hp artifact on nilou and full em (ER for collei or dendro trav) to other bcz we dont know who trigger bloom😂
I don't have Kokomi and my Nahida is reserved for my kuki HB team, nilou and yaoyao are fixed, what are the best option for the last 2 slots(barbara,collei,dmc,yelan,xq)
Wait, so the other hydro unit must have an em build? I won Nilou and was planning to use this team: Nahida, Nilou, Yelan, Yaoyao. My yelan has sub-dps build. Is full em yelan gonna work here? 😅
Barbara need to be high EM because she can take priority when she attack to heal, that way you dont cut your damage Is not like the Hydro need high EM but the one triggering the reaction, if you use Nahida and then Yelan trigger the bloom she will need it but you need EM on Nahida too when is Hydro + Dendro. I have the same problem using Collei + Barbara, if I have Barbara on EM the dual ring (Collei C2 + Barbara wet ring) can do bloom dealing 11k, but on healer Barbara she just do 3,5k while the bloom from Collei on a wet enemy is 5k. If I mess the order I loss damage.
I think you can, but you need to account for lower amount of dendro application. You need to be more active in applying dendro, compared with Nahida which application basically just Hold E and forget.
you can, but you have to think differently. collei is actually a good dendro applicator if you use her right. give her a sacrificial bow, aim her E so it hits as many targets as possible on the way out and back, then do it again right after. that's 4 AOE applications. i actually prefer collei to dendro traveler and their slow, single target, random application of dendro. the problem with that is that you need off-field hydro application. i find it that barbara's ring, in addittion to nilou's own aura is pretty good, but you need to hug the enemy at all times for maximum effectiveness. xingqiu's rain swords also work, but then you're better off using yaoyao. for yaoyao, it's similar. basically hug enemies as much as you can wearing as many hydro auras as you can. her ult actually applies a LOT of dendro, but it doesn't last long, so most of the time you'll have "meh" application with her. not that bad, completely usable.
Essentially, they all suck or make so little difference in the grand scheme because Nilou doesn’t have great ownership of blooms and only really cares about HP. Use whatever really, even the dull blade lol. Xiphos or Sacrificial are my choices since they visually synergize with her.
If you don't use Shenhe with Ayaka, your damage drops by A LOT. If you don't use Xingqiu with Hutao, your damage drops by A LOT. If you don't use Bennett with Raiden, your damage drops by A LOT. Your point?
@@yogamsoni7669 ye even with nilou signature the difference between with and without is 4k But hey there are 5 core on field on a time each deal 20k its will be 100k per time right but wat if it 24k each
Too bad I don't have one for you.. But the damage difference is quite huge, from 10k to around 27k with 1000 EM. Anyway, stacking around 500EM is enough, EM afterwards will have diminish returns.
@@OmegaXII so, very high hp with Nulou is not enough, should use EM build with the second hydro? I think game8 says: use EM with dendero character only when use Nilou
Yes, the best part with Nilou is when we finish the chamber with her burst.
Yeah, it’s a noce gimmick
Yeah, when the screen slowly fades with nilou tilting her head towards us, it's just beautiful.
The amount of screenshots I took for that shot
@@nandha-one9819 my ideas
At 12-2 they actually made the enemy AI to attack you all at once, the ice cage with the hydro bubbles will spawn at the exact same time to freeze you then a pyro attack and the anemo arrow will hit you afterwards to deal a crap ton of damage amplified by reactions, it is brutal. No wonder your nilou's HP gone red.
i belive in idol duo supremacy (bárbara, nilou)
i don't even use a dedicated healer with nilou (it's either mona and nahida with prototype amber, or just one of them, and it's more than enough for anything), so of course barbara works being the best healer in the game for raw healing (nothing beats a "press button to full heal entire party" healer. fight me). a nice perk for mine, is that since she is c39, she revives once per abyss if she happens to die.
Wow this was insane. Good tips on grouping that I'll definitely use.
Tbh I feel that barbara is more comfortable to use than kokomi, but I don't want to waste resources to level barabra since she's lv70 and kokomi already lv85
I just got Nilou and her sig sword from the banner. Her blooms are so satisfying but my poor Kokomi is almost dead all the time 😅
is your kokomi triple em? if so, go for em/em/hb for more confort
@@jochaile yeah Kokomi sac frag around 1k plus EM on full team. Skill issue maybe? lol. I havent played nilou team that much, only in spiral abyss for a few hours. But I replaced my elegy collei instructor with yaoyao and kokomi was able to have around half hp unlike always red hp before. Nahida is using her sig teapot too. Maybe I have too much team EM buffs. Tried the team again using elegy full emblem Collei for a bit of dps then switched to my support Kokomi with full tenacity build and things are going smoothly. I'll probably get full clam set on her or just the tenacity for now. Need to play around with my full EM kokomi build too with dodging and s since the blooms of death are just so satisfying
@@the_trvlr i use yaoyao full healer with barbara full em, works fine
@@jochaile yep. My alt account is using barbara too full EM. Got nilou on that account as well during her rerun. Works fine in flr 12 even if barbara is only lvl80
Barbara, ikuyoo.
Thanks for the grouping tips! I also use Nilou but I like to on field with Yaoyao more.
Thank you for showing appreciation for barbara! She’s amazing in bloom teams but almost no one understands it
I tried and i Finished room 12-3 with three allies dead, nilou low on health,, and 5 seconds left
no kokomi? no prob! with barbara, *we are the jellyfish*
I use the same team
But Yaoyao instead of Dendro MC.. (4pc Instructor lmao)
Barbara with 4pc Flowers of Paradise Lost
Nahida with 4pc DW
Nilou with new 2pc HP, and tenacity 2pc HP set
The only 4 stars char who has animation burst
i like you used the term "SLAP" lol
Oh wow you really had those MKs kneel before Nilou. If that isn't badass I don't know what is
I went with keqing, fischl, nahida and barbara, no problem at all, barbara is a goddess ❤
But the problem is the over bloom from Nilou.
this is pretty much my team except i have c6 collei and its just so satisfying to watch everything explode green on my screen
This is making me wanna pull for nilou so bad. Team comp looks so fun
Yes u should. Easily build just with barbara trav dendro and nahida/collei. U dont need up talent tho all character just up healer talent 😂 and easy to build just hp artifact on nilou and full em (ER for collei or dendro trav) to other bcz we dont know who trigger bloom😂
@@JuanW-jh4gw i use 3 hydros for that reason. overwhelm hydro application so my nahida is always the one to trigger
@@GenshinYuppe Nice! Which characters did you pick for your team?
@@Fosifar nilou, xinqgiu, mona and nahida
Traveler signature weapon = dull blade
dang, it's the same team with mine last night
but I fortunately have signature weapon for nahida and nilou
Damn! Nahida is not enough, Nilou is amazing too!
That was amazing !!! ❤
I've not seen a C0 Barbara for so long LOL
So.. that's how to group the hydro hilicurl
What? You're using Nahida?
I bonked that thing with Nilou/DMC/Collei/Barbara!
That's great but nahida makes it so that u can hit once and get them all
me: pulled for nahida but got nothing..
Mines nilou, nahida, yelan/candice and yaoyao the key of khaj-nisut really helps with teams em problem..
0:59 why are they better cores ? If not my nilou do the bloom then i get only normals 💚💔 (only hydro and dendro team members)
My Barbara has higher EM than usual, that's why her seeds are much damaging.
Nilou is the strongest team in the second half this abyss
really up there. short of full whaled teams, it probably is.
I mean the guide, subtitles all good, but what about the music you used? Give that info as well
Believe it or not, i dont have barbara c6😢 so im gonna wait for kokomi
Same🤝 barbara c1
Would it work to instead go Nilou, Yaoyao, Yelan, and dendro mc?
Yep absolutely. That's one of the best team for Nilou in fact.
literally the thing i was looking for btw yaoyao instead traveler?
works fine as well
Yes of course. My original choice was Yaoyao, but changed to Traveler just to show Barbara's healing is viable Haha
I died a lot using the same team
but nahida is c2, so my barbara would get violated
As a philosopher once said, “kill them before it kills you”🤣
holy shit that was smooth
I don't have Kokomi and my Nahida is reserved for my kuki HB team, nilou and yaoyao are fixed, what are the best option for the last 2 slots(barbara,collei,dmc,yelan,xq)
Xingqiu + Traveler Combo is better IMO, but Collei has higher DPS ceiling compared to Traveler, if you can play her well.
Well.. We have yaoyao now
Actually do able did this exactl team and got 9 stars
Wait, so the other hydro unit must have an em build? I won Nilou and was planning to use this team: Nahida, Nilou, Yelan, Yaoyao. My yelan has sub-dps build. Is full em yelan gonna work here? 😅
No, use full em on-field Nahida
Barbara need to be high EM because she can take priority when she attack to heal, that way you dont cut your damage
Is not like the Hydro need high EM but the one triggering the reaction, if you use Nahida and then Yelan trigger the bloom she will need it but you need EM on Nahida too when is Hydro + Dendro.
I have the same problem using Collei + Barbara, if I have Barbara on EM the dual ring (Collei C2 + Barbara wet ring) can do bloom dealing 11k, but on healer Barbara she just do 3,5k while the bloom from Collei on a wet enemy is 5k. If I mess the order I loss damage.
Can I replace Nahida with Collei or Yao2? I need her in my Team 1 Hyperbloom
I think you can, but you need to account for lower amount of dendro application. You need to be more active in applying dendro, compared with Nahida which application basically just Hold E and forget.
you can, but you have to think differently. collei is actually a good dendro applicator if you use her right. give her a sacrificial bow, aim her E so it hits as many targets as possible on the way out and back, then do it again right after. that's 4 AOE applications. i actually prefer collei to dendro traveler and their slow, single target, random application of dendro. the problem with that is that you need off-field hydro application. i find it that barbara's ring, in addittion to nilou's own aura is pretty good, but you need to hug the enemy at all times for maximum effectiveness. xingqiu's rain swords also work, but then you're better off using yaoyao.
for yaoyao, it's similar. basically hug enemies as much as you can wearing as many hydro auras as you can. her ult actually applies a LOT of dendro, but it doesn't last long, so most of the time you'll have "meh" application with her. not that bad, completely usable.
No kokomi? Pffttt, try no kokomi and no nahida, that's my nilou team
if i change nilou to raiden, and nahida to yaoyao, would it still be okay? because i don't have nahida and nilou, but i build barbara and DMC already
give your raiden full EM 4pc deepwood, you can have hyperbloom team with her
Could you tell me the title of the songs, please?
Outlaw - by "It''s Different"
what was the team in first half
I played Rational, but with Yelan.
What best f2p sword for nilou? Should i go em sword?
Essentially, they all suck or make so little difference in the grand scheme because Nilou doesn’t have great ownership of blooms and only really cares about HP.
Use whatever really, even the dull blade lol. Xiphos or Sacrificial are my choices since they visually synergize with her.
yep. they're all just north of useless. so use favonius, sacrificial or xiphos, since they give some team utility.
kaboom?
yes partner kaboom (bloom or boom?? ) XD
I mean nahida tho
Try collei and DMC u dmg will reduce by alot
And by alot i mean alott
I played wit both and found out the difference in damage isn't much. Nahida just provides a smoother gameplay experience
The difference in bloom damage is about 3-5 k
Sure dude: ua-cam.com/video/GsMCwP4WNvo/v-deo.html
If you don't use Shenhe with Ayaka, your damage drops by A LOT.
If you don't use Xingqiu with Hutao, your damage drops by A LOT.
If you don't use Bennett with Raiden, your damage drops by A LOT.
Your point?
@@yogamsoni7669 ye even with nilou signature the difference between with and without is 4k
But hey there are 5 core on field on a time each deal 20k its will be 100k per time right but wat if it 24k each
Is replacing lumine with baizhu a good option?
I use yao yao instead of barbara, yao yao y better option to keep 2 dendro 2 hydro
What about no nahida team ?
but the real question is whos carrying in the 1st team
the only hard part was listening to the english voices
other than that, solid team
damage per bloom?
Dendro mc changeable?with yaoyao
yes, double the healing is a much safer option, but i use xingqiu for more hydro app
I use nilou, nahida, xingqui, and yaoyao. It’s so satisfying with the 3 maguu in flr 12-3.
Two healer is better than one, so yeah!
But damage drop?
@@OmegaXII why struggling
We got kokomi
But I used Babara through the second half
I thought that some fkers gonna say Nahida is op too bro. U can do it with Collei instead of Nahida :))
Try the same team comp but Collei instead of Dendro mc 👌🏻😉
why EM build with Barbara?
more blooms
Because she creates most seeds. So her EM matters a lot in total damage.
@@OmegaXII
heeeh
is there any video show the difference of damage between EM and non EM build on second hydro with Nilou?
Too bad I don't have one for you.. But the damage difference is quite huge, from 10k to around 27k with 1000 EM.
Anyway, stacking around 500EM is enough, EM afterwards will have diminish returns.
@@OmegaXII so, very high hp with Nulou is not enough, should use EM build with the second hydro?
I think game8 says: use EM with dendero character only when use Nilou
THE BEST PART IS I DONT HAVE NILOU
Why did I find this video after struggling in abyss for 5 hours with my new nilou team second half?? Ehh, there's always next reset ig 🥲
Use barbara