Aryan Invasion Theory - Non-Linguistic Evidence - Koenraad Elst -

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  • @lovepeace1953
    @lovepeace1953 5 років тому +35

    At Least there is one westerner, who is acknowledging the fact that undivided india was the homeland of all aryans, not biased like others. I respect this person, for bringing forward the factual information.

    • @eldergod4817
      @eldergod4817 5 років тому

      Aryan invasion theory is fake you idiot

    • @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy
      @KilgoreTrout-vo7uy 4 роки тому +1

      @Janardhan Parweshwar no please go suck on to your establishment history books peddled by the Marxist school.

    • @karan257
      @karan257 3 роки тому +2

      Even the word 'aryan'is fake if they use it to imply a race or set of people. That's just western interpretation.
      Arya is a sanskrit word and anyone who studied a bit of sanskrit knows it describes a set of qualities in a person - like educated, humble, protecting, respecting etc..even people in southern india have been called arya..or aryapurush etc.

    • @lemurianinvasiontheory6782
      @lemurianinvasiontheory6782 3 роки тому +2

      You fell for the colonial trap. 'Aryan' is not race bruh. Arya is an adjective meaning 'Noble character'., like Beautiful, if 'Arya' can be conflated as race. So can beautiful? Imagine a race of beautiful people. Stupid isn't it?
      Another example is Aryabhatta, the man who came up with shunya. He was from a lower caste/class. If Aryan was a race. Why would a lower class person be hailed as Arya in his very name 'Aryabhatta'.
      The truth shall set you free.

    • @lovepeace1953
      @lovepeace1953 3 роки тому

      @@lemurianinvasiontheory6782 Thanks for taking the time to write a comment. Did you listen to the whole discourse? Do you know how the western world has used /still using the word "Aryan" as the basis of racism? Glad he is a westerner who is speaking the truth, that Aryan does not mean a person with white skin, blond hair, and blue eyes.

  • @RajSingh-xn8qd
    @RajSingh-xn8qd 3 роки тому +15

    Here is how I can summarize the evidence brought up in this series of talks. If you ask these questions even to AIT proponents you will get these answers
    Which one of the IE lands calls themselves the Aryan homeland? India.
    Which one of the IE lands is the only that that records IE migrations out of it and names all the IE tribes? India
    Which one of the IE lands has all or most of the flora, animals and fauna of the reconstructed Indo-Europeans? India
    Which one of the IE lands has preserved syntactically all the cases, genders and numbers of PIE? India
    Which one of the IE lands has preserved all the root words that make up all words in IE lexicon? India
    Which one of the IE lands has preserved all the mythology, gods and customs of the IE people? India
    Which one of the IE lands that has the produced the oldest and biggest amount of literature in IE language? India
    Which one is one of IE lands has the Vedas? India
    Which of the IE lands had the biggest and most advanced civilization in the bronze age? India
    Which is the IE homeland? RUSSIAI!!!!!!
    Its basically a comedy. It is so obvious that India is the homeland, that anybody thinking otherwise can only be called delusional. I think it is so obvious it is time we throw AIT/AMT out of Indian schools, or at the very least teach it as just a theory with a big disclaimer. It is still taught as fact even in India. What a tragedy.

    • @pooper2831
      @pooper2831 3 роки тому +2

      Well put

    • @vigsbond
      @vigsbond 2 роки тому +2

      You summarized it very well.

    • @krishrama
      @krishrama 2 роки тому

      right on man. it is very DISGRACEFUL and great injustice for youths growing up with
      this fallacy and hindu shaming theory. someday the academia i hope will change and
      give way to true indian history and the glories of the ancient india vedic days.
      before all the eurocentric and christian and islamic perversions and degradation
      to our land and people...
      O please modi administration make india greatness once again!! :D

  • @sen782k8
    @sen782k8 4 роки тому +11

    Thank You Dr Elst, for all this scholarly information. Iam deeply obliged to you, me an Indian learning all this about my own antiquity from you, a Belgian. Humble salutations🙏

  • @diwakersharma8618
    @diwakersharma8618 3 роки тому +4

    A brilliant exposition upholding the indian civilization by Koenard Est,the modern day Rishi.

  • @ramkrishnadas4230
    @ramkrishnadas4230 5 років тому +4

    What are the arguments put forward by NIck Allen that proto-IE version of myths is original?

  • @bharatpandit4796
    @bharatpandit4796 5 років тому +13

    A profoundly interesting, informative and thought provoking discourse.

  • @JrJ2016
    @JrJ2016 4 роки тому +2

    Conrad Elst deserves a nobel for history

  • @anshoe
    @anshoe Рік тому

    Great research Koenrad ji 🌿🕉🙏🏼🇮🇳🚩

  • @ramang5400
    @ramang5400 4 роки тому +4

    Hats off to Mr Koeanraad Elst. We rarely find native Indians making such in depth analysis to restore pride and reverence to Bharat and Bharatia culture, on the contrary some top politicians indigenous or imported, evangelists, communists etc take special pains to denigrate Bharatia that is Indian culture

  • @EasternReport
    @EasternReport 2 роки тому

    Latest video of Shri Shrikant Talageri on Out of India Theory: ua-cam.com/video/DKEpERD_U4I/v-deo.html [Aug, 2022]

  • @shailikhanna1044
    @shailikhanna1044 3 роки тому

    Fascinating comprehensive talk

  • @truthteachers
    @truthteachers 5 років тому +6

    Its great to hear what Konraad has said. But what baffles me is that, so far in my search, none including him have ever explained the origin, relationship and position of the Dravidian race, language and religion. Who are the dravidians, how are they related to the Aryan, now that it has been established that Aryans are a different race from the Dravidians. I am disappointed again in the incompleteness.

    • @Dontmadder
      @Dontmadder 5 років тому +8

      Looks like you didn't understand his lecture one bit

    • @truthteachers
      @truthteachers 5 років тому +4

      @Raj Narayanan Thank yo so much that is enlightening.

    • @arkitectoor
      @arkitectoor 3 роки тому

      The Hindus of South India came down from the North about few thousand years back and also mixed with the locals. They absorbed the local non-Indo European languages and introduced Sanskrit into it.

    • @truthteachers
      @truthteachers 3 роки тому

      This is incorrect

    • @truthteachers
      @truthteachers 3 роки тому

      @Tt t You must be joking. So sad you dont know. We, DRAVIDIANS migrate from Ethopia to South India during the continental shift and then migrated north to the Indus valley. Only to be "driven back"

  • @adhipmitra
    @adhipmitra 3 роки тому +2

    Very enlightening talk.

  • @infinitewisdom6065
    @infinitewisdom6065 4 роки тому +4

    A great scholar.

  • @hrishikasingh1552
    @hrishikasingh1552 3 роки тому

    Very insightful!!🙏🏼

  • @codychurch5920
    @codychurch5920 4 роки тому +3

    Yet, we don't find any Y haplotypes from the Indian subcontinent in any historical non Indian Indo-European areas(except among Roma, who are medieval migrants). We do find European paternal haplotypes in India.

    • @nautiyogi8386
      @nautiyogi8386 4 роки тому +14

      Ancient DNA data is something that evolves over time. Like the new paper that shows the genome of the subcontinental is similar to the ones outside. We'll arrive at that - don't you worry. A simple thing to do meanwhile, just look at the population density of Eurasia - go-ahead and google it. Do you think anyone, especially from sparsely central Asia, can replace the genetics in the great river belts of Sindhu-Saraswati-Ganga - the most populated part of the world? No subsequent invasion was able to make even minuscule genetic impact and the so-called Aryan invaders were able to do it? Sounds like a sad joke.
      With the number of people living in the great river belt they populated people in central Asia and eastern Europe and also southern India. With that went our languages! These events are mentioned in our books like vedas and puranas.

    • @arkitectoor
      @arkitectoor 3 роки тому +2

      ​@Tt t He is talking about flow of language and culture to the west, not DNA flow.

    • @uncletheoneshotkid3001
      @uncletheoneshotkid3001 Рік тому

      @@nautiyogi8386 India at the time was definitely not the most populated region in the world. Ancient Egypt was supposed to have 6 million at its peak while top estimates of the IVC were at 5 million.
      Furthermore, genetically most Indians do not have even close to a majority of steppe dna. Not even the Rors of Haryana who peak at 30%, but even then the research shows that was the result of a back migration from Xinjiang into the Indic plains.
      The “displacement” of the genes talked about is a nuanced topic in all honesty. In most Indians the European-like dna doesn’t cross 10% if even that. There’s also plenty of Indus Valley paternal haplogroups within Brahmins.
      This, along with the presence of many gods of IVC-origin as well as tribal faiths seemingly resembling the IVC faith, indicates a syncretism of Pre Vedic and Vedic cultures, languages and religions rather than a full scale invasion in which Indians adopted a fully new culture

    • @animishhegde3777
      @animishhegde3777 2 місяці тому

      ​@@arkitectoor Y haplotype is certainly not referring to language, isn't it doctor?

    • @animishhegde3777
      @animishhegde3777 2 місяці тому

      ​@@uncletheoneshotkid3001 The kind of passive migration that you are hinting at should have been identical to the migration of the Jewish, Arabic, ahoms, Turkish and Iranian people. The whole premise of the "genetic-study-based evidence for Aryan Invasion Theory" is with the evidence collected from the Swat Valley Skeletal remains which show more resemblance to maternal Steppe DNA. You can equally claim that Out of India theory is true. But it is not. Neither is the Aryan Invasion or Aryan Migration theory.

  • @rajusarkar8922
    @rajusarkar8922 Рік тому

    রাধে রাধে 🙏🌹🙏 হরে কৃষ্ণ হরে কৃষ্ণ 🙏🌹🙏

  • @MorusAlba1975
    @MorusAlba1975 2 роки тому +2

    Why still talk about the INVASION theory? No academic cares about it anymore. Discuss the MIGRATION theory instead!

  • @mintusaren895
    @mintusaren895 3 роки тому

    Not today .time gap.within the without again within .IN INDIA MOKSHA a word. SANSKARA but ritualistic.although it creates MURTY.murtee abasyambhaee.theory,theoretical science,philosophy everything.kalpana sutra,bhavnagar,manasutra etc.expansion of everyone like.but what the limit or unlimited.going celestial body.

  • @sushmasingh1356
    @sushmasingh1356 4 роки тому

    Rig Vedas is not oldest when only one one Vedas

  • @hrishikeshkjoshi
    @hrishikeshkjoshi 5 років тому +2

    why you purposefully forget the history of world before chriest when vikram aditya conquered whole world and king of Rome was pared in Ujjain you are not gr8 peoplez

  • @jayakrishnanm7838
    @jayakrishnanm7838 3 роки тому

    Namaste

  • @kingsleysp65
    @kingsleysp65 5 років тому +2

    Probably he has to revise his theory after recent Ancient DNA studies

    • @TheShree909
      @TheShree909 4 роки тому

      What revision do you expect? What do the ancient DNA studies actually say?

    • @nautiyogi8386
      @nautiyogi8386 4 роки тому +2

      Ancient DNA data is something that evolves over time. Like the new paper that shows the genome of the subcontinental is similar to the ones outside. We'll arrive at that - don't you worry. A simple thing to do meanwhile, just look at the population density of Eurasia - go-ahead and google it. Do you think anyone, especially from sparsely central Asia, can replace the genetics in the great river belts of Sindhu-Saraswati-Ganga - the most populated part of the world? No subsequent invasion was able to make even minuscule genetic impact and the so-called Aryan invaders were able to do it? Sounds like a sad joke.
      With the number of people living in the great river belt they populated people in central Asia and eastern Europe and also southern India. With that went our languages! These events are mentioned in our books like vedas and puranas.

    • @dileepbhagwat9398
      @dileepbhagwat9398 4 роки тому +1

      www.theweek.in/news/india/2019/09/06/new-study-debunks-aryan-invasion-theory.html
      This is what the latest DNA studies say - they have debunked the AIT.

    • @shibi2612
      @shibi2612 2 роки тому

      @@nautiyogi8386 what the genome of outside is same what you want to say now dna is destroying aryan myth for exmaple r1a1a which was called aryan genome is now known its indian even pro aryan theroy supporting scientist i forgt the name is even saying that r1a1a originated east of iran

  • @atlantivi
    @atlantivi 5 років тому

    🙏🏽👍🏽👏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

  • @atanubanerjee2599
    @atanubanerjee2599 2 роки тому

    Koenraad is not a scientist.

  • @paharipant2
    @paharipant2 5 років тому +1

    wow!!

  • @lowersaxon
    @lowersaxon 4 роки тому

    1500 BC is by far too late. The first waves must have ocurred much earlier.

    • @PrashantSingh-rr5iu
      @PrashantSingh-rr5iu 4 роки тому

      Their never was any invasion..if you change the date you change everything..restart and reimagine everything..

    • @prabalsinha972
      @prabalsinha972 4 роки тому +2

      If you move away from 1500BC, aryan invasion theory (AIT) breaks apart because the presence of Indo Europeans at their homeland in 3000BC is certain and the times at which certain IE groups like Greeks and Celts populating / entering their present homelands have also been ascertained. According to AIT the Indo Aryans(IA) were the last ones to enter their present homeland so that entry time can't be much earlier than 1500BC.And it can't be later than 1200BC as the IAs were pre iron age people and iron age had started in India by 1200BC.(Later archeological sites proving smelting of iron about a thousand years earlier in India have been found pushing iron age in india further back in time than 1200BC.

    • @gshrdy5415
      @gshrdy5415 2 роки тому

      How many in wave.

  • @Samyu_N
    @Samyu_N 2 роки тому

    Aryan by Birth - Brahmin, Kshatriyas & Vaisyas
    Dravidian by Birth - Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits)
    Truth is ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians.
    People living in Indian Sub continent who are ALL fair in complexion have mostly Steppeland genes in their DNA these people are basically Aryan. People living in Indian Sub continent who are Dark in complexion have mostly South Asian Hunter Gatherer genes in their DNA these people are Dravidian [Tamils] basically.
    Tamils means NOT the current day Tamil Nadu state people alone, they represent all Sudras & Praiahas [Dalit] lived across Indian sub - continent. Even today, you can see dark skinned and pale dark skinned people living in North, South, East & West of India, they were all Tamils only in ancient India.
    The ancient text Manusimriti designate the Shudra as Peasants and Artisans i.e. Farmers and All Craftsman, Shudra is NOT to mean slaves.
    Read the following facts about DNA Studies.
    Why R1A1 DNA originates in EUROPE, but not in india. why it is it not found or too less in percentage among South Indian people ?
    Why M haplogroups DNA is not found in Upper caste Aryans or North indians ? If found why so less ?
    If you have read Vedas there are lots of mention about a food made of Horse meat, then why HORSES are not native to INDIA ?
    Why copper hoard culture found only with Aryans, but not with Dravidians ?
    Why antenna swords found in Sinauli - India which belongs to BMAC - Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex ?
    Haplo M is found among 60% of modern day indians. It is in every person from south. But here’s the main catch ! It’s only found in depressed classes of northern and tribal peoples of northen india. But, almost to zero to 1-4% among Higher caste Aryans or North indians.
    Just like R1A1 not found in south in the same way south’s M groups are not found among R1A1 peoples of north.
    So, it is proved beyond doubt that "ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians"

    • @sramay123
      @sramay123 2 роки тому

      idiot go and see interior of Jharkhand, UP, Bihar, Punjab you will find all in same color like us. It is you are assuming a wrong theory. You want separate country, it is your aim.

  • @lowersaxon
    @lowersaxon 4 роки тому +1

    This man is no scientist.

    • @nautiyogi8386
      @nautiyogi8386 4 роки тому +6

      Ancient DNA data is something that evolves over time. Like the new paper that shows the genome of the subcontinental is similar to the ones outside. We'll arrive at that - don't you worry. A simple thing to do meanwhile, just look at the population density of Eurasia - go-ahead and google it. Do you think anyone, especially from sparsely central Asia, can replace the genetics in the great river belts of Sindhu-Saraswati-Ganga - the most populated part of the world? No subsequent invasion was able to make even minuscule genetic impact and the so-called Aryan invaders were able to do it? Sounds like a sad joke.
      With the number of people living in the great river belt they populated people in central Asia and eastern Europe and also southern India. With that went our languages! These events are mentioned in our books like vedas and puranas.

    • @RajSingh-xn8qd
      @RajSingh-xn8qd 3 роки тому +2

      He never claimed to be.

    • @jamesstevenson7725
      @jamesstevenson7725 2 роки тому

      Thomas Huth is no scientist

    • @gshrdy5415
      @gshrdy5415 2 роки тому +2

      He spent more time studying than a scientist, any one can read, not just a scientist, you don't need a degree from a university to learn.

  • @VitomirMilosevic
    @VitomirMilosevic 3 роки тому

    Anyone heard about Danubian civilisation in Balkan?(Lepenski Vir,Vinča)...DNA can't lie.Arians came from there and becomed brahman cast.

    • @jamesstevenson7725
      @jamesstevenson7725 2 роки тому

      You are no scientist

    • @gshrdy5415
      @gshrdy5415 2 роки тому +2

      Did they become brahmin caste when they went to Europe?.

    • @dibyamartandasamanta583
      @dibyamartandasamanta583 2 роки тому +2

      R1a1a originated in India , R2a originated in Iran , R1b originated in Egypt, LOL except Nordics no body is native to Europe

  • @kamaldas1558
    @kamaldas1558 4 роки тому +1

    Bombastic rubbish!

  • @Samyu_N
    @Samyu_N 2 роки тому

    Aryan by Birth - Brahmin, Kshatriyas & Vaisyas
    Dravidian by Birth - Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits)
    Truth is ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians
    People living in Indian Sub continent who are ALL fair in complexion have mostly Steppeland genes in their DNA these people are basically Aryan. People living in Indian Sub continent who are Dark in complexion have mostly South Asian Hunter Gatherer genes in their DNA these people are Dravidian [Tamils] basically.
    Tamils means NOT the current day Tamil Nadu state people alone, they represent all Sudras & Praiahas [Dalit] lived across Indian sub - continent. Even today, you can see dark skinned and pale dark skinned people living in North, South, East & West of India, they were all Tamils only in ancient India.
    The ancient text Manusimriti designate the Shudra as Peasants and Artisans i.e. Farmers and All Craftsman, Shudra is NOT to mean slaves.
    Read the following facts about DNA Studies
    Why R1A1 DNA originates in EUROPE, but not in india. why it is it not found or too less in percentage among South Indian people ?
    Why M haplogroups DNA is not found in Upper caste Aryans or North indians ? If found why so less ?
    If you have read Vedas there are lots of mention about a food made of Horse meat, then why HORSES are not native to INDIA ?
    Why copper hoard culture found only with Aryans, but not with Dravidians ?
    Why antenna swords found in Sinauli - India which belongs to BMAC - Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex ?
    Haplo M is found among 60% of modern day indians. It is in every person from south. But here’s the main catch ! It’s only found in depressed classes of northern and tribal peoples of northen india. But, almost to zero to 1-4% among Higher caste Aryans or North indians.
    Just like R1A1 not found in south in the same way south’s M groups are not found among R1A1 peoples of north.
    So, it is proved beyond doubt that "ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians"

    • @sramay123
      @sramay123 2 роки тому

      It is your own imagination. constant mixing of people happened. that is why in India all parts you will find all color people

    • @Samyu_N
      @Samyu_N 2 роки тому

      @@sramay123 Read my other comment below. For more PROOFS

    • @sramay123
      @sramay123 2 роки тому

      @@Samyu_N you are repeating some nonsense. which god is brahmin please let me know all gods are non-brahmins. Varnas are four thern how many castes per districts across the country. I am also black only in my family, people refer my color, I also used to regret for black color, after going to North , I understood it is black people all over India in interior villages of all States. Lord Krishna is black. if he is black then why Aryan Brahmin will ever worship him. Are u sane? Listento Dr David Frawley.

    • @Samyu_N
      @Samyu_N 2 роки тому

      @@sramay123 Yes, Yes, for you SEXUALLY PERVERTED Sanskrit MYTHS are True, but scientific facts like DNA studies, Archeological evidences, Scientific Carbon Dating, Stone inscriptions and Ancient Tamil literatures are Non-Sense ... LOL ... Grow Up

    • @animishhegde3777
      @animishhegde3777 2 місяці тому

      You are so delusional, brother. Every single fact that you have referenced to, is opposed to the Aryan theory. Yet you seem to twist it and make it fit into your little brain noodle up there. Your delusion is worth studying.