Japan's F-16 that isn't an F-16 at all

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  • @kamikazeviking3053
    @kamikazeviking3053 8 днів тому +23

    F-16: You're just a cheap fucking knockoff
    F-2: Oh no, I'm the upgrade.

    • @LastGoatKnight
      @LastGoatKnight 8 днів тому +1

      I mean, it kind of is. It's bigger than the F-16, has the same engine thus eventhough it's a bit slower but carries more fuel. So, it has a better takeoff distance, better range, Better electronics, compared to the current F-16 at the time and I think it's also carrier worthy, unlike the F-16.

    • @greyfox78569
      @greyfox78569 8 днів тому +2

      Actually not even the same plane Chance Vought 1600 the competitor to the F/A-18.

    • @koimananana
      @koimananana 3 дні тому

      F-16改 when

    • @M16_Akula-III
      @M16_Akula-III 3 дні тому

      @LastGoatKnight F-2 is NOT a CATOBAR aircraft. J/APG-1 has a comparable performance to AN/APG-68(v)9 despite being an AESA. Flight performance is worse and the per-unit cost of an F-2 is still more than a late-production F-22A (189 Million USD vs 180 Million USD).

  • @dentist-chan
    @dentist-chan 9 днів тому +121

    THE F2 MENTIONED WHAT IS AN ORIGINAL FIGHTER AAAAAAH

    • @onionsmaster
      @onionsmaster 9 днів тому +10

      I mean it is fairly original, yes it is based off of the f-16 but it is still very different

    • @dentist-chan
      @dentist-chan 9 днів тому +7

      ​@onionsmaster shush aviation nerd. We must appeal to the War Thunder goons. The snail must be fed.

    • @kon8459
      @kon8459 9 днів тому +3

      ​@@dentist-chan Can I have context on the whole F-2 thing? Only thing I know is the "muh stoopid muricans ruin sugoi Japanes plane" side of the story.

    • @user-Xx0xxxxx
      @user-Xx0xxxxx 9 днів тому +8

      @@kon8459 Short Version:
      Japan wanted a new fighter, but needed a technological base for it, looked at a few options, ended up going with an F-16 platform, they bought essentially the research behind how the F-16 was designed/made, and the designs for a block 40. They agreed there'd be a 60/40 split in it's design between japan and america. But even the bits designed in the US were actually newly designed components and not just F-16 parts. Only roughly 10~% of the components of the F-2 were actually from an F-16, basically just being airbrake and some parts for it's landing gear. Everything else was redesigned for it. Different construction methods (composite materials) radically changed it's internal structure, and aerodynamic changes from the new nose/wings/cockpit, trickled down to where basically every part of the plane was slightly aerodynamically redesigned.
      Extra story bits:
      The F-X project started almost a decade before what would end up being the F-2, with a design more closely based on the hornet. It kinda looked like a Hornet 2000, but actually was designed before it. This design was planned to have stuff like side looking AESAs, more range, more weapons then the F-2, and even a decreased RCS (think like Su-57, not full stealth, but still smaller). However the US basically said nu-uh to this shortly after the design concepts were submitted, so this delayed the project. The US was also highly critical of much of the F-2's design, with Lockheed martin saying that the aerodynamics works japan needed to do for it was "impossible" (they did it anyways). Also, the US refuses to license lots of it's technology to japan, hence why it needed a new flight control system. This also extends to basically all other avionics though.

    • @kon8459
      @kon8459 8 днів тому

      @ That's a load of info. Thanks

  • @maatt12
    @maatt12 9 днів тому +75

    I don’t agree, Jonathan is the sexiest plane to ever exist. You cant change my mind

  • @herobrudi
    @herobrudi 6 днів тому +3

    2:09 He said "Jo jo, denkst du ich pass nicht auf", which means Yeah, do u think i dont pay attention? didnt know he could speak german

  • @MaticTheProto
    @MaticTheProto 8 днів тому +6

    Is it just me or do these videos get more informative?
    I actually looked the f2 up just yesterday and idk how it isn’t in war thunder yet seeing how we have 2 aesa radars already

  • @KoalaGorp
    @KoalaGorp 9 днів тому +10

    hi! i love your content and it is actively inspiring me to try animation and your style of videos. keep up the great work!

    • @thatspaceyguy
      @thatspaceyguy  9 днів тому +3

      That's so great to hear! I'm so happy I could inspire someone 🦆

    • @KoalaGorp
      @KoalaGorp 5 днів тому

      @ you certainly did! im working on some characters right now, and hopefully i can get something going!

  • @Fiepsi15
    @Fiepsi15 9 днів тому +7

    I'm so happy you're back from your break! Love the vids, Grüße

  • @Peter_Soma
    @Peter_Soma 9 днів тому +11

    Keep making videos i enjoy them 🔥🦆👍

  • @Franceman9157
    @Franceman9157 9 днів тому +45

    Can i finally leave the basement, Spacey?

  • @jomri
    @jomri 9 днів тому +9

    I fucking love the F-2 let's fucking go

  • @perfectparadox7389
    @perfectparadox7389 9 днів тому +7

    Omg but what if he just draws his body slightly longer every time without ever telling anyone

  • @sumiral6438
    @sumiral6438 9 днів тому +3

    That one German line got me

  • @Spotterhead_the_dragon
    @Spotterhead_the_dragon 7 днів тому +1

    cant wait for the Mitsubishi fx also love your vids:D

  • @sharingfamilylife
    @sharingfamilylife 9 днів тому +4

    Soooooooo awesome!!! Glad you’re back

  • @johnsmith-jq1uc
    @johnsmith-jq1uc 9 днів тому +14

    yo, you ever gonna do helichopters?

  • @airwaffle
    @airwaffle 8 днів тому +2

    i love the videos. always nice and simple - ish.

  • @aarushrao8241
    @aarushrao8241 5 днів тому +1

    Bro can you make a video about the crazy achievements of the f15 like shooting down a satellite and landing with one wing

  • @A.K_1303
    @A.K_1303 9 днів тому +1

    Great video! Keep going, I ❤ planes✈️

  • @TheReal_Bis
    @TheReal_Bis 8 днів тому +1

    Yippee he did a video on my fav fighter :D u should talk abt T-4 next

  • @iamsorry5884
    @iamsorry5884 9 днів тому

    Please please keep going into this rabbithole of planes/aviation. I,along with others, love this content and how you make it (obviously, do it only if you really want to of course, as it is your own time and effort) 🙌

  • @Caffine_Kitsune
    @Caffine_Kitsune 6 днів тому +1

    This was so awesome! But can we have a video on the phantom line? Because a lot of countries used them including Japan so I think it would be interesting

  • @Feesh195
    @Feesh195 9 днів тому +4

    Yo sup man ive been following ur channel for a while i see u have potential
    (Was talking to Johnathan)

  • @StrelitziaLiveries
    @StrelitziaLiveries 9 днів тому +5

    oh hey its a surprise to see my bad anime liveries here lol ( 0:18 ) lowkey spat my drink

    • @themoistchungo
      @themoistchungo 9 днів тому

      Look I'm happy that the commissions I paid for are making their way out there in the world

    • @TheCheeseburgerJudgesYou
      @TheCheeseburgerJudgesYou 9 днів тому

      Damn bro, it for a game?

    • @StrelitziaLiveries
      @StrelitziaLiveries 9 днів тому +1

      @TheCheeseburgerJudgesYou yeah, digital combat simulator

    • @TheCheeseburgerJudgesYou
      @TheCheeseburgerJudgesYou 8 днів тому

      @ ooo, nice. I’m trying to learn it rn with my friend who doesn’t even like planes as my rio in the f-14. It really complicated and going pretty slow. I feel bad for forcing my friend 😭

  • @SamuelJordan-qe1et
    @SamuelJordan-qe1et 9 днів тому

    The start. "Our mitsubishi F-1 fleet is outdated?" "So true"

  • @evlyhro
    @evlyhro 5 днів тому

    Appreciate Jonathan shitting on ur pillow he's been needing a release of tension...🦆

  • @ThatReplyGuy
    @ThatReplyGuy 8 днів тому +1

    Still not a plane guy, but I am a Spacey guy.

  • @KayoMichiels
    @KayoMichiels 9 днів тому +5

    If you think the F-2 is cute.. wait until you hear of it's South Korean little brother: KAI T-50 'Golden Eagle'

  • @bonline.
    @bonline. 9 днів тому

    i love when car companies make planes

  • @AIM9FOX2
    @AIM9FOX2 7 днів тому

    Nice video. Have been watching your aircraft videos for a while now. Could you do a video on the German ME-163 rocket fighter? Would be neat :D

  • @skaldlouiscyphre2453
    @skaldlouiscyphre2453 9 днів тому

    The F-2 reminds me a bit of the proposed carrier version of the F-16.

  • @aaaaaaaaaaaa899
    @aaaaaaaaaaaa899 9 днів тому +3

    Jetelmen

  • @Rousku_2010
    @Rousku_2010 12 годин тому

    Do a video about the Fouga CM 170 Magister

  • @walt077
    @walt077 9 днів тому

    great video bro, keep it up

  • @mab2187
    @mab2187 8 днів тому

    The F2 low key has the best camo I've seen "blue ocean", some of the Russians and Chinese ones are also good.

  • @greyfox78569
    @greyfox78569 8 днів тому

    F-2 is actually the remains of the failed Vought 1600 for the US Navy. Basically what almost became the F/A-19, but the F/A-18 Hornet won. Chance Vought basically sold the remains with the blessing of the US to Mitsubishi which they made into the F-2.

    • @user-Xx0xxxxx
      @user-Xx0xxxxx 7 днів тому

      No? The F-2 isn't even a naval fighter. It's derived from a block 40, the 1600 was based on a block 10. You're probably confusing it with the proposed F-16J, which is in no way related to the F-2, which was based on the YF-16 Sparrow testbed, which was much more similar to the 1600, but that's never went anywhere.

  • @H3X4G0N
    @H3X4G0N 9 днів тому

    Lesgoo he's back! How'd the boat stuff go? (Idk if you've already mentioned this somewhere else)

  • @Hun117-bj4ql
    @Hun117-bj4ql 8 днів тому +1

    Do a video about the new chinese prototypes!

  • @amygdala9857
    @amygdala9857 5 днів тому

    oh, anything you say, i own a 97 year old car, it has no fuel pump but instead uses vacuum pressure off the intake to suck fuel up

  • @BalIsDeep69
    @BalIsDeep69 9 днів тому

    I honestly want to hear you talk about aviation start-ups. Do you have any criticisms? Do you think they'll succeed? Do you believe in its technology? I'm just curious lol

  • @that.chill.speedsofter1445
    @that.chill.speedsofter1445 9 днів тому

    Love that everything the Japanese builds must be agile, and more agile than it's competitors usually.
    Desgin philosophy that's just stuck with em since ww2

  • @JohnNathanShopper
    @JohnNathanShopper 9 днів тому +2

    Jonathan here. I can confirm.

  • @tomaskolacia8834
    @tomaskolacia8834 8 днів тому

    Tbh the czech L-29 and L-39 are pretty cool👌🏿

  • @Blakearmin
    @Blakearmin 9 днів тому +1

    Oh hell yeah!

  • @user-Xx0xxxxx
    @user-Xx0xxxxx 9 днів тому +7

    Btw, the triple redundancy of the flight system isnt what makes it cool. The F-16s actually had quintuple redundancies. What makes it cool is it gives the plane CCV capabilities without the use of canards, which is actually kinda insane, and basically no other plane can do.

    • @MaticTheProto
      @MaticTheProto 8 днів тому

      Ccv?

    • @user-Xx0xxxxx
      @user-Xx0xxxxx 8 днів тому

      @MaticTheProto Control configured vehicle. Basically you know those prototypes from the 70s with the canards slapped on everywhere? Those are CCVs. The F-2's flight system works like one of those without needing canards. This gives it access to stuff like ME, Dy, and Ca controls. (Basically the plane has very high pitch rate, can turn sideways, it doesnt loose yaw/roll authority as much at high pitch, and can produce more lift at any given speed then a normal plane). How it does this without canards is some really interesting things to do with its leading edge slats and flaperons, to induce differential drag or assymetrical lift, or to move the center of lift farther forward.

  • @NightBeWheat
    @NightBeWheat 8 днів тому

    100% my favorite aircraft in Ace Combat 7

  • @QWERTY16PPP
    @QWERTY16PPP 7 днів тому

    F-16 at air to air fighting 🍷🗿
    F-2 at air to ship fighting 🍷🗿

  • @KyoushaPumpItUp
    @KyoushaPumpItUp 9 днів тому +1

    Any chance you'll soon talk about KAI T-50 and its 2 variants, TA-50 (LIFT) and FA-50 (Light Multirole)?

  • @Noble-762
    @Noble-762 9 днів тому +1

    please F4 Phantom II video

  • @fanBladeOne
    @fanBladeOne 9 днів тому +1

    100 % true. Now if only I had a tiny little drag chute sometimes 😚

  • @ilmarilah1195
    @ilmarilah1195 9 днів тому

    Do a video on fighter jets that aren’t jets (WW1-WW2 prop planes)

  • @F15ESTRIKEEAGLE-iw9nl
    @F15ESTRIKEEAGLE-iw9nl 7 днів тому

    1:48 this part took me out idk why

  • @boaz7927
    @boaz7927 9 днів тому

    Hay, those people made my toaster

  • @ryn471
    @ryn471 9 днів тому

    I love the F-2

  • @iliketurbosofficial
    @iliketurbosofficial 8 днів тому

    i have seen the 5th floor of don quioute... (its actually unspeakable)

  • @IHaveNoCreativity.
    @IHaveNoCreativity. 6 днів тому

    make a video about ace combat planes

  • @AsadMehmoodMaverick
    @AsadMehmoodMaverick 9 днів тому

    Do one about the JF17/FC1 please. :3

  • @danboy12342
    @danboy12342 7 днів тому

    F2 mentioned holy shit

  • @Plane_pancake
    @Plane_pancake 9 днів тому +1

    WOOOO

  • @s1oplus_wt
    @s1oplus_wt 9 днів тому

    can you make a video on the uuuhhh amx cuz its brazillian and thats fucking awesome

  • @Pineapplr_
    @Pineapplr_ 9 днів тому

    F2 SUPERIORITY (mostly because of the cool camo)

  • @autisticaeronaut
    @autisticaeronaut 8 днів тому

    f-104 lore when?

  • @irrelEvant5352
    @irrelEvant5352 7 днів тому

    mitsubishi is japans saab. they both make cars and planes

  • @FlightGaming-x1j
    @FlightGaming-x1j 9 днів тому +1

    Japans f16 is from temu

  • @DiglettDawg
    @DiglettDawg 9 днів тому

    I hit up Mitsubishi to buy an F-2.... They said yes! 🤑

  • @agidotexe7167
    @agidotexe7167 9 днів тому

    J10 is my fav asian fighter jet

  • @markereeni
    @markereeni 9 днів тому

    Thailand pls

  • @NichtSoWitzig
    @NichtSoWitzig 9 днів тому +1

    Wider mal ein geiles Video !!!

  • @Heifof
    @Heifof 9 днів тому +1

    so in the end f-2>f-16?

  • @HairyFroglegsYT
    @HairyFroglegsYT 8 днів тому

    powered by anime

  • @defenestration5008
    @defenestration5008 9 днів тому

    You should do the Avro Vulcan next because it ha cool howl sound
    and during training exercises it nuked america... twice...... BUT DID I MENTION IT HAS A COOL HOWL

  • @morskojvolk
    @morskojvolk 9 днів тому

    Favorite asian fighter? Bolo!

  • @peelymeely4711
    @peelymeely4711 9 днів тому

    Mitsubishi F-2 mentioned????

  • @G-12MCZ
    @G-12MCZ 9 днів тому

    EET-2

  • @Shaheer23khan
    @Shaheer23khan 7 днів тому

    Jf 17, now

  • @federicogaravaglia369
    @federicogaravaglia369 8 днів тому

    Hey uh I might be a Jonathan but I'm not able to find you on Twitch

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 9 днів тому

    Japan took an F-16 and divided by 8. Obviously.

  • @TheNicestPig
    @TheNicestPig 8 днів тому

    F-2A VIPER ZERO 💪💪💪

  • @Toastisme
    @Toastisme 8 днів тому

    First time i saw the F2 i busted.

  • @junkers_stuka
    @junkers_stuka 9 днів тому

    Mitsubishi lancer evo 4

  • @GLOCK17_GEN4
    @GLOCK17_GEN4 9 днів тому

    Budy, let me reminde you that you said in one of your videos that the su57 is bad because of the visible screws, even though the f22 or any oder aircraft has theme too. Thats the reason i will track you down.

  • @jackplays2236
    @jackplays2236 8 днів тому

    kawaii F-16C

  • @Kinnaj101
    @Kinnaj101 9 днів тому

    I heard some german

  • @AAAXXX-ch3oh
    @AAAXXX-ch3oh 6 днів тому

    F-16=F-2

  • @micahcooke2998
    @micahcooke2998 9 днів тому

    I wish that I was 16 AJ was real😢

  • @blackjore1
    @blackjore1 9 днів тому

    2:09 Deutsch/German?

  • @Bharat-c7w
    @Bharat-c7w 9 днів тому +1

    Ayooo finally a video

  • @FatherExo
    @FatherExo 9 днів тому +2

    1:10 not truly the case, in the late 80s just before the dissolution of the Soviet States, japan was caught on multiple occasions offering trade with the Russian state, mainly just small appliances and PCBs/electrical components, we still had a strong influence on japan at the time but still ended up putting them in an arm bar where they couldn't develop anymore aircraft for a short time. keep in mind they were already producing components for McDonnel Douglass at the time for F-4s and F-15s and even produced their own in house at Mitsubishi Heavy under contract. at this moment they wanted to develop their own fully domestic fighter to replace their very limited F-1/T-2 platforms and didnt want to import, but due to this very problematic trading of appliances and appliance components with the USSR we stopped them. and as for asian hate that wasnt a US thing as a whole idk why people keep pushing that narrative, the only "hate" any asian communities got in the 90s were in LA and it was directed at Koreans...

  • @thebajancambrian2141
    @thebajancambrian2141 8 днів тому

    Video 3 of asking for a JF-17 video, pls daddy

  • @minenite0
    @minenite0 9 днів тому

    did you just speak fucking german? 2:08 (Joa joa denkst ich passe nicht auf)

  • @golaxy110
    @golaxy110 9 днів тому

    WHY DID YOU NOT TALK ABOUT THE F-4EJ,, IN A VIDEO ABOUT JAPANESE PLANES,,, !!!

  • @0SEVNN
    @0SEVNN 9 днів тому +1

    plan

  • @SksSksisnothere
    @SksSksisnothere 9 днів тому +1

    Anti spiral

    • @koimananana
      @koimananana 3 дні тому

      Your life doesnt mean anything

  • @SksSksisnothere
    @SksSksisnothere 9 днів тому +1

    Anti spiral