The Most Beautiful Digital Display I've Ever Seen!!!

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  • Опубліковано 17 жов 2024
  • I give you the amazing Sharp Compet 18 calculator from 1969(ish) and it happens to have a set of 12 gorgeous display tubes that I wish would have been around for a lot longer. Where did we stray off the path of beautiful into 7-segment boxes? I wonder.....
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 693

  • @jamanjeval
    @jamanjeval 3 роки тому +76

    I really appreciate that your tear-downs aren’t hack-aparts where a cool old thing ends up broken apart and in a dumpster. Thank you for your care and patience.

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin 3 роки тому +5

      Yeah! I had a programable calculator as a Kid, that was HUUUUUUGE, stuffed tightly with over 30 pcb's inside. Don't remember much about it other than that my mom threw it away in her usual rage-fits, where a ton of retro stuff ended up.

  • @jankro1
    @jankro1 3 роки тому +121

    The first calculation result was correct, you pressed the M+ twice

    • @SuperVstech
      @SuperVstech 3 роки тому +2

      Yeah, I noticed she must have forgotten when she pointed out the place holder pointers. And pressed it again.

    • @randombloke82
      @randombloke82 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, original entry at 1:59, second entry at 2:19 - interesting that it didn’t update the display, unless that’s supposed to be a “last transaction” type space rather than just “what’s in memory”

    • @SuperVstech
      @SuperVstech 3 роки тому +2

      @@randombloke82 the memory plus not minus update the display… not even in windows calculator program… it is a buffer addition. The data in storage memory is updated. The display only updates when memory recall is pressed.

    • @beavonator
      @beavonator 2 роки тому

      I saw tha as well.

  • @nicholsliwilson
    @nicholsliwilson 3 роки тому +96

    The red stamp is a hanko that reads “Matsuda” A hanko is a personal stamp that’s considered your personal signature in Japan & we’re only now, in 2021 debating fazing out the hanko. The main objection apparently is that signatures can be forged… even though you can pop down to your local Don Quijote & get a hanko with anyone’s name on it, no ID needed for ¥200 (aprox: $2).

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 3 роки тому +6

      Yes my father has one from when he visited Japan in the 1980's, a beautifully carved one.

    • @fffwe3876
      @fffwe3876 3 роки тому +1

      these are ninin or mitomein. they are not consider as "signature". they are just name stamp.
      jituin has similar meaning as personal signature in the west. but you have to register it.

    • @nicholsliwilson
      @nicholsliwilson 3 роки тому +5

      @@fffwe3876 認印 (Mitomein) is a type of 判子 (Hanko), because 判子 is a general term that covers several types of identity stamp such as 銀行印 & 実印 (Jitsuin) & you can still get a 三文判 stamp for ¥200 at Don Quijote & use it for whatever you want, honestly or not & they’re all still a type of hanko.

    • @fffwe3876
      @fffwe3876 3 роки тому +3

      @@nicholsliwilson there is a huge difference in the legal consequences. according to japanese Civil Code, only jituin has law binding effect. thats why people dont register a sanmon stamp from $shop. you can, but you dont want to do that for obvious reason. its like using "password1234" for login password.

    • @nicholsliwilson
      @nicholsliwilson 3 роки тому +2

      @@fffwe3876 LOL! this is exactly what I mean. You seem to think people looking to commit fraud care about the civil code? Why on earth would anyone looking to commit fraud register any type of 判子 when they’re copying someone else’s? That’s not how the real world works.
      This is the pitfall with having such a low crime rate across Japan, so many Japanese people just are not prepared to protect themselves when it does happen. It just doesn’t occur to people like @fffwe that criminals don’t care about the law because that’s so far removed from his own experience. It’s the exact same reason armed crime happens (everywhere, not just Japan) even though we have weapon bans, because only law abiding citizens give a damn about bans.

  • @richardhalliday6469
    @richardhalliday6469 3 роки тому +53

    Marvellous content and thank you for having the courage to do a partial dismantle and reassemble of 50+ year old electronic artifact - the Japanese certainly show the world how to do it.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA 3 роки тому +64

    Mesh is a RF shield, from when they wanted this to work with an AM radio next to it in the office, along with an unshielded phone.
    The keyboard also has mechanical 1 key rollover protection, you can only ever have a single numeric key pressed at one time.

    • @CharlesPruden
      @CharlesPruden 3 роки тому +5

      Yes. I believe this as well. It's shielding.

    • @Peter_A1466
      @Peter_A1466 3 роки тому +4

      Looks anti-glare to me

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 3 роки тому +7

      @@sparky6086 There is a ground connection to the PCB, via the one screw deliberately left without an insulator washer on it, and a PCB trace right around it.

    • @Peter_A1466
      @Peter_A1466 3 роки тому

      @@SeanBZA why do you think this ground point between pcb's is connected to that wireless mesh?

    • @CharlesPruden
      @CharlesPruden 3 роки тому +2

      @@Peter_A1466 The screw tab, face plate and mesh are all made of metal. Though it probably serves both purposes of shield and antiglare.

  • @howiem
    @howiem 10 місяців тому +1

    God those figures are gorgeous. How delightful. I'm very envious :)

  • @richfiles
    @richfiles 3 роки тому +7

    Oh, I am _SO_ happy you've discovered these early Sharp calculators! Those early VFD displays are truly a beauty to behold!
    I have a smaller unit, a QT-8D. Leading zero suppression killed the use of half height zeros, and VFD tubes like this fell out of favor. Many calculators of the era used half height zeroes, even on standard 7 segment displays, because it made viewing numbers easier when leading zeroes are not suppressed.

  • @sleepyfutchtgirl470
    @sleepyfutchtgirl470 3 роки тому +2

    I almost burst into tears when you opened the case it's so beautiful inside

    • @MLX1401
      @MLX1401 3 роки тому

      Me too :')

  • @johnfrazer7964
    @johnfrazer7964 3 роки тому +50

    The red stamp reads 松田 Matsuda (as in Mazda the car maker who used another spelling); it's a common Japanese family name.

    • @OM19_MO79
      @OM19_MO79 3 роки тому +8

      The Mazda brand does come from Matsuda but it also comes from a Zoroastran deity named Ahura Mazda, hence the spelling. Although in Japanese the brand is read Matsuda, is not written with kanji but kana, unlike other brands like Nissan or Nintendo. Toyota is similar, is a mispelling on purpose of the surname Toyoda; like Mazda, it is also spelled in kana.

    • @BixbyConsequence
      @BixbyConsequence 3 роки тому +2

      @@OM19_MO79 Mazda was also used a well-respected brand for light bulbs in the early 20th century. I believe that was related to the Zoroastrian reference.

    • @ebkesq72
      @ebkesq72 3 роки тому +4

      @@BixbyConsequence That “Mazda” which also made excellent quality vacuum tubes/valves was a British company that made products in the UK and France.

  • @CuriousMarc
    @CuriousMarc 3 роки тому +96

    What a beautiful, artistic display! These are little poetic Japanese brushstrokes, not straight and stodgy western segments!
    I have a Sharp Compet sold as a Facit 1131J. Same layout, but it appears to be from later as it has 3 or 4 LSI ICs in it, and it’s all Nixie tubes! I would have thought that the Nixie version would have predated the VFD one. Maybe Facit had to swap the artful display for a more traditional one for the Western market?

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 3 роки тому +4

      I still have part of the keyboard for one, with the mechanical rollover lock in it that prevents you pressing more than one numeric digit at a time.

    • @Bobbias
      @Bobbias 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, I instantly recognized the brush strokes. That's absolutely wonderful to see.

    • @SixOThree
      @SixOThree 3 роки тому +3

      Even the diodes are gorgeous.

    • @Ranger_Kevin
      @Ranger_Kevin 3 роки тому +3

      @curiousmarc I don't think so. The Facit 1128 that I donated to lookmumnocomputer has the same tubes. So they definetely sold them in Sweden with these weird VFDs.

    • @AmstradExin
      @AmstradExin 3 роки тому +1

      I wonder if any Kana display tubes have ever been attempted. :D

  • @EEVblog
    @EEVblog 3 роки тому +149

    Gorgeous!
    It's a shame the zero had to be lower half.

    • @FranLab
      @FranLab  3 роки тому +55

      I would pay money for an updated version with 'improved' zero. Fix it don't ditch it!

    • @heedmywarning2792
      @heedmywarning2792 3 роки тому +11

      The 'F' position of the BCD display isn't normal (so it's not really a BCD display) , it's styled with a curve to make it look a little like the letter L. This means you can't use it make a normal looking zero.

    • @martindejong3974
      @martindejong3974 3 роки тому +19

      It is just that you are used to a "full size" zero. I myself don't see a problem with it.

    • @Ranger_Kevin
      @Ranger_Kevin 3 роки тому +36

      The half-heigt zero was probably done due to the fact that the leading zeros are not blanked, so that it is easier to see where your number starts.
      Funny timing, I just donated the Facit-branded version of the same calculator to This Museum Is Not Obsolete / Look Mum, No Computer :-)

    • @rallyfeind
      @rallyfeind 3 роки тому +5

      @@Ranger_Kevin Good on you sending it to that mad lad! He is my inner mad scientist's spirit animal. He is of equal awesome to have something like that.

  • @Xotzil-Privat
    @Xotzil-Privat 3 роки тому +19

    Hi Fran, add-to-memory function is all right. You added 256 to memory at 1:58 and a second time at 2:16.
    Very nice machine, thanks for showing

    • @lironmtnranch4765
      @lironmtnranch4765 3 роки тому +2

      I caught that too, and the 100 was never added to memory either. Really cool device! Teachers in THAT day were justified saying, "You're not going to carry a calculator everywhere you go!!!"

  • @saundby
    @saundby 3 роки тому +13

    Wow, this takes me back! I used the little red indicators to mark thousands and thousandths when I was doing calculations, other times to mark thousands and millions, depending on the scale of the numbers I was working with. The decimal point itself was easy to see, but the markers acted like commas to break up long numbers.

  • @reidster87
    @reidster87 3 роки тому +24

    A thing of beauty! This was a lovely, relaxing video too. I think the mesh layer may be to improve apparent contrast and reduce off-axis reflections.

    • @freddyburger5574
      @freddyburger5574 3 роки тому +3

      Yes, exactly my thought: it's a diffuser mesh to help neutralize specular reflection from the tubes' glass surfaces by both breaking up the light that's striking the tubes themselves and also by imparting a sort of moire effect. Also, the silver mesh has a mid-range refractive index in the system being silvery grey, this would help with apparent contrast.

    • @senilyDeluxe
      @senilyDeluxe 3 роки тому

      I've had it happen that placing my hand in front of VFDs made part of the display just go dark (happened on a VCR, was reproducible and took a couple of seconds until it even started to light back up), so maybe they had the same problem, maybe the mesh is to repel stray electrostatic...

  • @walterkennedy9474
    @walterkennedy9474 3 роки тому +10

    Finally! I’ve been looking for a video covering non-standard segmented display layouts for the better part of this year, I’m really happy you made this!

  • @DIY-valvular
    @DIY-valvular 3 роки тому +10

    If you think, those hand drawn pcb traces make a perfect match with the display style. It's the inner beauty inside an obscure office machine!

  • @Slide100
    @Slide100 3 роки тому +6

    Thanks Fran! You have the best videos!
    One thing I am NOT sad about is not having to hand draw/tape traces any more! 😃

  • @mathuetax
    @mathuetax 3 роки тому +20

    Boy, the tank level of build brings a tear to one's eye! Interesting how nearly every component lead has the added black 'wrap' on the legs. Makes it appear quite odd when you look at it. Those display tubes are really stylish, dunno that I've seen such before.

    • @MikeSmith-sh3ko
      @MikeSmith-sh3ko 3 роки тому +4

      This really is a spared no expense calculator and for what it cost back then, you could have brought a good car with that money.

    • @haweater1555
      @haweater1555 3 роки тому +2

      The black stuff is hollow insulating material, sometimes called "spaghetti" , for the bare component leads, all hand placed. A lot of work to assemble esp. the leads of the display tubes.

  • @doctorwacky5680
    @doctorwacky5680 3 роки тому +12

    Hey friend, a place my dad were cleaned out the office probably in the mid 70s. He brought home a couple of calculators just like that, one was a sharp and the other one which looked just like it was a national semiconductor. And you’re right, the displays were awesome never seen anything like it since this video

  • @branedan8620
    @branedan8620 3 роки тому +1

    Numbers look almost as handwritten and artistic, nice!

  • @artdonovandesign
    @artdonovandesign 3 роки тому +6

    @14:29 I certainly see what you mean, Fran. They really are beautiful numerals. They have a truly unique 'thick-and-thin', calligraphic quality! (BTW: I love the positive and informative comments on this great channel)

  • @RegebroRepairs
    @RegebroRepairs 3 роки тому +12

    Nice! This Museum is Not Obsolete just featured a Swedish calculator with the same display tubes last week. Never seen those before. Now there are two videos!

    • @Skraboing649
      @Skraboing649 3 роки тому +2

      Was just thinking the same thing 👍

  • @abigguitar
    @abigguitar Рік тому +2

    22:26 (pause here) It looks like the date code is printed on the label containing the letters FEC... just below that is 691107J, which may mean it was assembled November 7, 1969 (YYMMDD) or it could be July 11, 1969 (YYDDMM). I don't exactly know what the J means other than perhaps it was assembled in Japan.

  • @williefleete
    @williefleete 3 роки тому +37

    Traces were likely hand drawn on transparency then a photographic process for mass production
    Most of that is probably DTL instead of TTL so probably no need for decoupling

    • @SeanBZA
      @SeanBZA 3 роки тому +6

      Yes DTL, with the diodes doing most of the work, and the IC cans likely containing only inverting transistor stages, for when you needed to buffer the output and regenerate the digital currents, or to act as drivers for the DTL stages.

    • @herrbonk3635
      @herrbonk3635 2 роки тому

      Could be RTL too, or a mix. Why would TTL need more decoupling than DTL at the same frequency? (Are you thinking of totem pole outputs, drawing at switch over, like in CMOS?)

    • @williefleete
      @williefleete 2 роки тому

      @@herrbonk3635 I’d think TTL would have sharper edges on transitions etc which would pull current spikes

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 2 роки тому

      Fun fact. You've probably seen Sharp ELSIMATE calculators but do you know where the name comes from. ELSI = Extra Large Scale Integration, back from when getting a calculator circuit onto one or two chips was a major achievement.

  • @ghibliinu6616
    @ghibliinu6616 3 роки тому +1

    Digits in those fluorescent tubes look like they were drawn with kanji brush, nice ✨

  • @Bob-Horse
    @Bob-Horse 3 роки тому

    You are so right, I have never seen such a beautiful cursive-style display, so much nicer than traditional.

  • @Tubemanjac
    @Tubemanjac 3 роки тому +9

    20:37 Cute how you feel sorry for that lonely capacitor! 😄

  • @dingalarm
    @dingalarm 3 роки тому +2

    Way down inside 🎸🎶 (9:54) - "Whole Lotta Love" reference 🤣🤣🤣 Good one, Fran !! 👍😂

  • @MarkPalmer1000
    @MarkPalmer1000 3 роки тому +4

    The Iseden Itron script is my favorite digital display. The Burroughs (Sharp) C3260 I use at work has these tubes. The zeros are set up to show the way they do as many of these calculators replaced mechanical adding machines and they wanted to duplicate that look instead of blanking the zeros. The Friden 130 calculator and a few others were set up the same way.

  • @xeroinfinity
    @xeroinfinity 3 роки тому +1

    wow, what they called compact, or portable, sure has changed from then to now. I love looking at these older devices, so beautifully built. Thanks for sharing, Fran !

  • @tomteiter7192
    @tomteiter7192 3 роки тому

    Wow, a tiny segment just for the "4" alone, just because it's more beautiful... I love it!

  • @goldenrod8861
    @goldenrod8861 3 роки тому

    Whole Lotta Love, same era as the calculator. Thanks for the time machine Fran.

  • @z4zuse
    @z4zuse 3 роки тому +11

    Due to the little dot for the 4 a 9-segment display for just the digit. That later 7-segment display was a real improvement.

    • @MikeSmith-sh3ko
      @MikeSmith-sh3ko 3 роки тому +1

      You are correct but it is a thing of beauty that itron display. And these days with oled and LCD it wouldn't matter so much we could have a pretty display again .

    • @glarynth
      @glarynth 3 роки тому +1

      The extra segment for the tail of the 4 is a really nice and subtle aesthetic touch, not to mention extravagant given the extra wire it requires.

  • @DiodeGoneWild
    @DiodeGoneWild 3 роки тому +32

    This is very similar to the oddball soviet IV-2 (ИВ-2) tubes, except they don't have the tiny extra segment for 4.

    • @Purple431
      @Purple431 3 роки тому +9

      I love those vintage 1960 - 70s Soviet vacuum tubes.
      Even though I'm 14 yrs old :)

    • @BartJBols
      @BartJBols 3 роки тому +5

      @@Purple431 art is art, and these things have something to appreciate for everyone

    • @Purple431
      @Purple431 3 роки тому +1

      These remind me of nixie tubes because of their shape

  • @SleepyLestatSF
    @SleepyLestatSF 2 роки тому

    what a treat to find this video!! thank you for this wonderful investigation on this lovely calculator!

  • @freddyburger5574
    @freddyburger5574 3 роки тому +21

    If that rubber boot is still flexible enough, you can replace those bulbs;
    the round flange on the back side of the boot can be compressed with a diy 'split tube' tool and pushed out of the metal bracket toward the front,
    then you can gently work diy split straws, "shims" between each side of the shrink-tubed wires and the boot gland to push the bulb and loom out of the front of the boot...
    I wish I could mess with it with you, I've done similar extractions with very good results...
    My best advice? tend toward compressing actions to complete the task and avoid stretching at all if possible.
    Don't 'pull' rubber parts out of rigid supports, compress them and push them out.
    Thin slivers of straw and scrap plastic packaging are your friends, you can release stuck rubber from mounting holes by gently shimming around the contact area after compressing the flange with a split tube...
    Microscopically, new and old rubber are like an asphalt road and a cobblestone road respectively, The new rubber (asphalt road) can endure stretching, expansion and compression without much damage; the old rubber (cobblestone road) can endure compression, but expansion or stretching will cause 'stones' to shift out of place and "rip" gaps into the structural pattern...

    • @ahsanyunas
      @ahsanyunas Рік тому

      bulb seems to be pushed forward i.e., towards front. once bulb is out, no need to take out rubber boot.

  • @9rune5
    @9rune5 3 роки тому

    You had me at "SHARP". I owned many lovely SHARP devices back in the 80s.

  • @dennisrhoads8866
    @dennisrhoads8866 11 місяців тому

    That was awesome Fran, I also thought to myself how well you control the camera. All the projects are very very interesting. Thank you Fran

  • @deanrubine2955
    @deanrubine2955 3 роки тому +1

    Whole Lotta Love to Fran for this great content.

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 3 роки тому

    I had a few of the tube display calculators with colorful keys, loved them.

  • @Jimserac
    @Jimserac 3 роки тому

    Still have my Casio FX-10 calculator from about 1974, Nixie tube digit display very similar to what you're showing. Last time I checked it a few years ago, it still worked.

  • @BlueMSX.
    @BlueMSX. 3 роки тому

    Breathtaking, I tell you there's nothing better for me than viewing a VFR. It's like Eye Candy.
    Awesome video!

  • @fazergazer
    @fazergazer Рік тому

    Truly beautiful… a thing of beauty is a wonder to behold. Almost wish it could be in a pure transparent case so one could enjoy the sheer workmanship🎉

  • @volleyballjerry
    @volleyballjerry 2 роки тому

    The VFD's are actually 9-segment if you include the small horizontal tab for the number 4 on the right. :) All discrete transistor logic so this is vintage 1967-1971 time period. Integrated circuit manufacturers (Mostek, National Semiconductor, Toshiba, TI) started producing calculator processor integrated circuits in the early 70's which resulted in a significant reduction in volume, weight, and especially power consumption.
    Fran, your assessment of the different subsystems is right on. The area were there are tons of diodes (especially near the banks of transistors) is likely the arithmetic logic section; every transistor-diode pair is likely an inverter OR a flop. A flip-flop will of course hold one binary digit of data.
    As always, excellent video quality and brilliant work. Really appreciate have the camera held in fixed position (with presumably a good tripod). Great video!

  • @luisnunes3220
    @luisnunes3220 3 роки тому

    The most beautiful display for shure! And a very well done machine. Wonderfull video, as always, Fran! Thank you very much.

  • @goodun2974
    @goodun2974 3 роки тому +1

    This reminds me of a Scott FM stereo tuner once owned by a friend that used Nixie tubes for the display and punch cards to select the station frequency!

  • @josephlicata4304
    @josephlicata4304 3 роки тому +1

    A beautiful piece of electronics. Thanks Fran!

  • @androo4519
    @androo4519 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for taking this beautiful calculator apart. Very brave. The mask in the display reminded me of my early 1970s Busicom that uses a mask around the very square segments of its gas discharge display to make them look a bit more conventional and to make the actually square decimal point look round. I collect calculators so always like it when you have them on. You still have the delights of the dynamic scattering mode LCD to explore, which, if you can find a working one, is intriguing enough even for somebody who isn't normally impressed by liquid crystal! I love mine but I'm told it will die in a few years because they all do in the end.

  • @gene450000
    @gene450000 3 роки тому

    I love this type of show and tell of old technology. Thanks.

  • @blackenedmerlin2076
    @blackenedmerlin2076 3 роки тому +1

    The bulbs come forward out of the rubber leaving the wire lose through the grommet/shield. (try pushing it from behind with a little crab fork) Cut both off in the mid-length of its wire, measure the resistance of the working bulb, and the voltage the machine puts on the wires, then you'll have your bulb spec. Splice pigtails back together, add sockets and connectors if ya like. :) A gorgeous machine thank you for showing it off, and all the others too!

  • @alancordwell9759
    @alancordwell9759 3 роки тому

    That is amazing, not just the beautiful display but the general quality of construction - sleeving on all the component leads for example. Thanks Fran :) Incidentally I tried in vain to find any info on those NEC chips but I did find a doc on their IC-making history that says "...three DTL-family products were announced in mid-1964, and total of eight products including RS flip-flop circuits, half-shift resistors, and half-adders went into production..."

  • @LuxurioMusic
    @LuxurioMusic 3 роки тому +2

    At first I thought it was a 6 segment display, but using extra segments to make the the numbers more readable is pretty awesome. I counted 9 segments though, there's an extra stroke on the 4.

  • @DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc
    @DanHarkless_Halloween_YTPs_etc 3 роки тому +2

    First time a circuit board reveal has ever made me swear out loud. 😄 Holy cow, that thing is packed! Who'da thunk the unique "Japanese brushstroke segment" tubes wouldn't've been the most fascinating thing to see here. Wild to see the ton of splayed legs on those alien-looking multi-flipflops (?), too. Interesting that the Iseden display tubes supported floating commas in addition to the periods, but Sharp didn't use 'em. Guess they plum ran out of space for driver circuitry!
    A side-benefit of leaving comma display to those sliding red plastic tabs is that the calculator would be able to display digit grouping both in Western 1,000-based grouping or East Asian 10,000-based grouping.

  • @markustzaras8224
    @markustzaras8224 3 роки тому

    My dad had the same one growing up! Thx for the memory’s

  • @dapperbrick7516
    @dapperbrick7516 3 роки тому

    17:20 - "handmade traces, just a thing of beauty forever"
    I have an Obelisk Ion 3 currently in my workshop for repairs, and I absolutely adore how the hand-drawn circuitboard looks. Tempted to replace the casing with a custom plexiglass one.

  • @julianp2868
    @julianp2868 3 роки тому

    I have never seen that type of display and your right, it is so pleasing to the Eye. What is really cool, it makes the digits 1 - 9 appear as if they are standing up lol.

  • @stuartpeters1080
    @stuartpeters1080 3 роки тому

    A thing of beauty and joy for ever, lovey work Fran..

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO2007 3 роки тому

    That is a very well made calculator with an unusual display. Amazing circuitboard with a lot of quality components as well as Germanium cat whisker diodes. Thanks for sharing.

  • @lironmtnranch4765
    @lironmtnranch4765 3 роки тому

    This is a really cool device! It reminds me of the Toko Mini-8 calculator which had a single tube blue-green fluorescent display like this. When you switched it on and off, the display tube would make a noticeable _deenk-dink-dink_ noise as parts inside warmed and cooled.

  • @jbrian8618
    @jbrian8618 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting teardown, I worked on similar gear in the late 70's and the schematics were mind blowing! The keys look to be reed switches which unfortunately can fail, c.f. IBM token ring hubs, and often had a spring delay line for debounce which was often in a rectangular can under the main PCB.

  • @StephenGutknecht
    @StephenGutknecht 3 роки тому +2

    Fran, you are a great researcher, thank you for all your teaching. Steely Dan "Aja" T.V. Commercial (1978) Steve Gadd

  • @mfbfreak
    @mfbfreak 3 роки тому +51

    The mesh is probably RF shielding, if it's connected to gnd somewhere. Back in the day they took avoiding interference a lot more seriously.

    • @rmora1
      @rmora1 3 роки тому +14

      Mesh is an anti glare filter

    • @hindsonracing
      @hindsonracing 3 роки тому +8

      @@rmora1 probably a bit of both, but most likely rf shielding as they would listen to the radio in offices.

    • @rmora1
      @rmora1 3 роки тому +3

      @@hindsonracing numeric tubes don't give off rf and the mesh is coated with matte black for anti-glare

    • @LarixusSnydes
      @LarixusSnydes 3 роки тому +2

      @@rmora1 Well spotted.

    • @rmora1
      @rmora1 3 роки тому +2

      @@LarixusSnydes I use to build custom LED displays and we always had issues with glare on displays, this was a common fix.

  • @mik310s
    @mik310s 3 роки тому

    The electronics are stunning, all hand made and beautiful l layout

  • @derekloudon8731
    @derekloudon8731 3 роки тому

    Back in the late 60s and early 70s I used to be a calculator repair guy. I used to repair calculators made by the Japanese company Buisicom. The main product was a basic 4 function unit with no memory. It had around 50+ plug-in PCBs and you got a hernia lugging around the repair kit. You would swap out the faulty card and at the end of the day repair the faulty ones back at base. Each card had a few logic gates built using standard discreet components. I remember the first hand held calculators that chewed through batteries and cost almost a year's wages (for me anyway). My first miniature calculator cost me over a month's wages and I still have it (somewhere).

  • @jessiedover6561
    @jessiedover6561 3 роки тому

    Fran I really love the vintage stuff thanks for the video also at 17:28 tracks far right the third one in looks blown

  • @mimsnshine
    @mimsnshine 3 роки тому

    Incredibly beautiful.

  • @mrdeathscrn
    @mrdeathscrn 3 роки тому

    Really enjoy the "handmade feel" of the tubes, each is its own length.

  • @wacholder5690
    @wacholder5690 3 місяці тому

    17:00 : It *is* tape. In the 70s I used the very same stuff to make layouts. It came in various thicknesses in dispensers like Tipp-Ex. Nice and quick to work with on simple, analog boards. With the advent of more digital stuff and bus structures people did not use that anymore. Guess I still have some (very much aged and dried out) rolls of the tape in my old drawing stuff. Thanks for showing ! I like these VFDs also quite a lot, even though I am more "the Nixies guy" ... 🙂

  • @stephenwong9723
    @stephenwong9723 3 роки тому +1

    The numeric font is really an art! Much much better than the conventional 7-segment LED! Like comparing the work of an artist with a kindergarten kid!

  • @38911bytefree
    @38911bytefree 3 роки тому

    The little ceros are bizarre at cute at the same time. NICE DISPLAY

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 3 роки тому +1

    I'm old enough to remember when they came out with adding machines with that type display (Nixie tubes?)
    I thought it was amazing.
    Ten years later they had pocket calculators with LED's and those were expensive paperweights.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl 2 роки тому

      In the 1980s there was an ANITA calculator sat on top of a cabinet at work. A shame that at the time I never realised its significance or even tried it. I left there in 1989 and the whole building is gone now so I have no idea what happened to that or the Racal Redac CAD systems I did regularly use there.

  • @flomojo2u
    @flomojo2u 3 роки тому

    Very cool wave soldering info, I once toured my father's workplace (Back in the early 80s at ITT Courier in Phoenix Arizona) and they had a bunch of wave soldering machines running. Very pretty, this long, roughly 10-inch wide bath of solder that glittered like mercury flowing perpetually across the length of the machine. They weren't running boards through when we toured the facility so you got an uninterrupted view of the solder. I also recall vividly they had 1 million dollars in cash stacked up under glass display cases with a bunch of heavily-armed guards all around. No particular reason they did it, it was just another random thing they had to show off for the yearly employee picnic/facility tour. Those were the days, shortly before they offshored the majority of the company to Asia.

  • @dianefeinstein8951
    @dianefeinstein8951 3 роки тому

    Fran: The display of this Sharp is very similar to my father's old university calculator which he gave to me. It still works. It's a Commodore 64 scientific with 110 functions (considered a lot in the late 1970's) with glow red Light Emitting Diode display powered by a rechargeable nickel cadmium battery...and it's "Made in England." The original manual is still intact and it comes with a soft vinyl case. Love your program...watch every episode. ❤ Diane, Vancouver, Canada.
    MnAU16/21 12:43 pm

  • @mikedjames
    @mikedjames 3 роки тому

    I have a Toshiba desk calculator from the same era. It has about 250 transistors, no integrated circuits, and several thousand diodes. Its storage is dynamic RAM made out of a capacitor and two switching diodes per memory bit.
    It uses Nixie tubes for display. It is assembled on six PCBs all using almost identical PCB technology - hand drawn tracks and sleeved component leads. The overflow and negative lamps are also neons rather than filament bulbs.

  • @ScottfromBaltimore
    @ScottfromBaltimore 3 роки тому +1

    I was in suspense over the reassembly.

  • @Bobbias
    @Bobbias 3 роки тому

    Those circuit board are a thing of art.

  • @jpjude68
    @jpjude68 3 роки тому +1

    that calculator is a throwback at a a documentary i re-watch from time to time, called "A video history of Japan's electronic industry", a 4-parter documentary you can find on youtube. It talks about the story from the beginning (just after WW2 with the birth of the transistor) to the time the documentary was probably shot (calculator wars, IC's, and technology surrounding VLSI's).

    • @MLX1401
      @MLX1401 3 роки тому +1

      This a fantastic mini series! I've propably watched it for like 3 times :D

  • @billmoran3812
    @billmoran3812 3 роки тому

    The first electronic calculator I saw was a Texas Instrument one about the same size as that. This was in 1971 and it cost $4,000! It was purchased by the owner of a company that manufactured precision gears for Pratt & Whitney Aircraft. Adding machines had been around for a long time, but the advantage of the calculator was its ability to multiply and divide and it’s memory functions.

  • @opl3toshiba
    @opl3toshiba 3 роки тому

    Very artful display tubes! I have a Burroughs C3155 desk calculator that also contains these tubes. It actually showed up in the mail the very same day this video came out! The Burroughs C3155 is a rebranded Sharp QT-8D "micro Compet", which is notable for being one of the first calculators to use large scale integrated circuits.

  • @jlco
    @jlco Рік тому

    Those PCB traces look otherworldly. They almost remind me of Jomon pottery.
    I also love the display... I've never seen a font on a segmented display like that.

  • @guitfidle
    @guitfidle 3 роки тому

    Wow!! those are really unusual tubes! I have an old Bell and Howell desktop multimeter that uses nixie tubes, which is pretty cool, but the font on these VFD tubes is just fantastic

  • @railgap
    @railgap Рік тому

    GORGEOUS!! I once had a Friden calculator - yes, THAT one, all rock logic, not an IC in sight, LCD display - and while the LCD could have had any arbitrary characters they wanted (vector) they made it the most boring 7-segment emulation you might imagine. Actually, I expect you've seen it. This is muuuuuch nicer. :) AND it has memory! ;D

  • @spugintrntl
    @spugintrntl 3 роки тому

    FranLab: Getting Surgical.
    Love it.

  • @ryanpenrod1859
    @ryanpenrod1859 3 роки тому +2

    For the tabulation--it does make sense, because for whole numbers, for example $10.00, you can just type "10" and it will add the .00 for you. Easier for mostly whole numbers, you only have to manually add the cents for odd amounts. If it was the other way around, you would have to type 2 extra 0's for every single whole number.

  • @ckape
    @ckape 3 роки тому

    Looks like the little tails on the 4s bring it up to a 9-segment, which seems extravagant.

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 2 роки тому

    Built with pride. Love the old glass diodes. NEC made some of the best TV transmitter equipment. At 17:14 looks like a repair to circuit.

  • @MsDemzon
    @MsDemzon 3 роки тому +7

    The red stamp looks like a name stamp. Likely used as an approval seal for QI. In Japan they have stamps that are used for signature. The characters are in line with that, being both correct for a family name.

  • @robertocisneros1407
    @robertocisneros1407 3 роки тому

    Thank you very much for your videos, I really like your channel, this is my first time and I feel at home.

  • @MikeSmith-sh3ko
    @MikeSmith-sh3ko 3 роки тому

    The small zero was to make the display more readable with the fact most calculators didn't have suppression of the leading digits so you can find it easier to ignore the zeros after your answer came up, as the zeros are of a different hight. Thanks Fran that is my second suck of the sav xxx

  •  3 роки тому +10

    I counted 11 segments. The digit 4 adds a short bar. Add the dot and the apostrophe at the top end.

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 3 роки тому +3

      Yup. Re 13:57, I was going to say 9 in the core, plus 2 for dot and apostrophe… so yeah, 11 per tube, 9 per digit-per-se.

    • @mjrippe
      @mjrippe 3 роки тому +3

      Which matches with the 11 transistors for multiplexing.

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 3 роки тому

      @@mjrippe indeed!

    • @sa3270
      @sa3270 3 роки тому

      What's the purpose of the apostrophe?

    • @DavidLindes
      @DavidLindes 3 роки тому +1

      @@sa3270 this snippet from Wikipedia should answer that (particularly the last bit):
      For ease of reading, numbers with many digits may be divided into groups using a delimiter,[27] such as comma "," or dot ".", half-space " ", space " ", underbar "_" (as in maritime "21_450") or apostrophe «'».

  • @livingdeadbtu
    @livingdeadbtu 3 роки тому +1

    A lot of those old indicator bulbs pushed out through the front of the bezel with the wire threaded through. Would have to get it to indicate to have ANY idea the voltage... probably 120 or if low in the 24v to 40v (could be ac or DC) range

  • @fazergazer
    @fazergazer 3 роки тому

    A true work of art there Fran!

  • @WR3ND
    @WR3ND 3 роки тому

    Past 3 AM, logging and labeling up to my 57th battery set of Eneloop cells. Thanks for the Friday night entertainment. :D

  • @nilo70
    @nilo70 3 роки тому

    Thank you Fran!

  • @drasco61084
    @drasco61084 3 роки тому +1

    Those tubes are gorgeous!

  • @patrickradcliffe3837
    @patrickradcliffe3837 3 роки тому +1

    BigClive would have a field day with this.
    Boy they did not want this machine shorting out

  • @sinephase
    @sinephase 3 роки тому

    24:55 - WHY ARE YOU DOING IT THEN!? LMAO
    So brave though! Awesome stuff! :D

  • @eekee6034
    @eekee6034 2 роки тому

    OH!!! My grandad had a calculator with the same type of display. He had taught himself calligraphy, so of course he liked it. It was smaller and much lighter than this one, and had a light green case. I've been looking for the display design for so long, but misremembered quite how the segments were laid out. (I thought there was a segment which was only used in the 9.) You'll have to forgive me for taking some screenshots so I can simulate it. :D
    The inside is beautiful too! And my grandad's calculator had a solid key-feel too. I think there were some similarities inside. The locator plate holding the tops of the tubes looks very familiar. (Later note: definitely the same kind of sheet-metal surround around the tubes, complete with the foam support.) The beautiful gates look familiar from _something,_ though my grandad's calculator was so much smaller, I can't imagine it had so many. It's possible it didn't have a memory. (I'm sure it had much less empty space.) I can't remember if it had a mesh over the screen, but I have a vague recollection of such a mesh from something.
    Wait a sec, 9 segments? All this time I've been thinking my grandad's calculator had 8 segments. Maybe it was another type of display, and maybe I was right about a segment only used in the 9 digit too. I also thought the segments had an even thickness. Maybe there's another beautiful kind of segmented display out there! :D But on the other hand, the small 0 is very familiar. OH WAIT! You count 8 segments if you don't see the little tail for the 4. Maybe I did that too, and misremembered which digit the odd segment was for. But I'm sure the odd segment was down the whole right side...
    Pretty diodes catching the light with their glass cases! :) Gooold connectors! XD And I like hand-drawn traces.
    Oh I forgot the comma! :)
    Edit: The Sharp QT-8D (mentioned by another commenter) looks right internally, but the outside looks wrong to be my grandad's calculator. I can't win! XD But maybe he painted it. And the QT-8D had fewer tubes, which matches my recollections. (It had a floating decimal point.) Oh hello! The Burroughs C3155 has the higher display I remember. The Sharp QT-8D is far too sleek, it almost looks like an 80s design. :) And the Burroughs C3260 looks closer still. The pictured case almost looks green; it might be faded. Okay, I'm happy now! :D

  • @paulj0557tonehead
    @paulj0557tonehead 2 роки тому

    The glare of the globe Fran. Man those are some tight numbers! Mucho germanium diodes.

  • @davidshivers8886
    @davidshivers8886 3 роки тому

    Absolutely amazing!