I once heard a producer say, “I went to music school for 8 years just to make one note bass lines” 😂 love your channel, personality, and examples! You’re a blessing. Thank you!
Well that's the problem with school. None of it correlates to the real world. The number of notes has never been correlated to the emotional resonance / 'success' of a certain audience. There's even 1 note jazz solos!
That actually helped. I watched so much Guy Mitchelmore / Christian Henson and their film composition videos ... which can be super interesting and helpful in terms of "climax" and "easy variations" (and G.A.S.). But that never quite fits into electronic music. What I'd like to see is a similar topic "Genres that don't use melodies". For the same reason: if you as much as hint on anything like a melody, your superdark hardcore gabber speed core track instantly turns into Marusha's "Somewhere over the rainbow" 😖. What I'd also like to see: a live lecture by you at Superbooth '24!
Great! Interesting that I am drawn to try to produce exactly in these genres while trying to follow my urge to use many harmonies (being a piano player). I might have to suppress this urge (except in the breaks)! 😆
Haha same, it's always a problem if you have a harmony brain/ ears. the solution is usually just to get out to more clubs and concentrate on the dancing! The harmony alone can't create the groove!
10:14 definitely a yes as I am learning sound design. Would also be super awesome if you considered Ableton instruments too for a fully vanilla experience ❤️
Just made that video! Check the synth types vid. I'm trying to keep it daw agnostic but I certainly do an Ableton specific one. Having said that If you understand the synth types at their core then it translates across any instruments. Check my synth video and let me know
Thanks. I've done 2. Well, 2 synth tutorials which are essential foundations to sound design, also the tech house bass video is basically a sound design tutorial. I'm currently taking feedback on what people want for part 3 of the synth series, check those out and let me know. 👊❤️
I have 2 synth tutorials up, on synth types and sounds design essentials. Have you seen those? Or do you mean you'd like to see techno specific ones? If so check out underdog music. Oscar over there is very good
@@Bthelick i did see them about 5 minutes after i posted. Have also been checking Oscars vids out as well. Are you going to be putting out any proper courses in the near future?
Awesome tutorials! Do you warp your reference tracks? I notice tracks are louder when warping with complex pro, does that mess up referencing? Or should I just leave the reference unwarped for loudness comparison and warp for rhythmic/instrumentation comparison? Thanks for your help
They will be louder on the meter, because the stretching/shortening causes constructive interference from phase changes. In exactly the same way I showed eq filters 'add level' in my "how not to master your tracks" video. The track isn't technically louder to our ears, just a digital peak meter. Don't pay attention to digital peak numbers. I usually warp My reference tracks yes. I'm not aiming for exact sound replication, The convenience outweighs the quality loss. In exactly the same way that I'm fine using an MP3 when a wav isn't to hand.
For the tech house vocal chop, how did you warp the vocals to be on beat with the 124bpm groove you established? I played around with different warps and couldn't get it quite right, curious if you manually chopped each word of the phrase e.g. "better" > "Than" > "sex" and warped each of those differently? Really niche question but figured I'd ask regardless, your content is amazing
Not so niche I think, vocal timing is a tough one, I know many that struggle with it. I snipped the words out manually and placed them on beat, it's not an 'effect' as such, if that makes sense. Better to chop them up here than try stretch them into that rhythm or else you'll generate lots of artifacts trying to add the silence in that wasn't there.
@@Bthelick Happy Sunday from Central Asia 🙏In regards, to the Vital patches, I was speaking about the ones that I assume were available in the past when someone clicked on the Google Drive link. Unfortunately, they are no longer available when I select them. I of course understand that you are most likely very busy with life in general. But as my mom always told me; it doesn't her to ask.
Happy Sunday! You misunderstood me, they were never available because no one requested until you! The link still works it's just empty because I haven't uploaded any yet. there are too many sounds to upload all of them so just Let me know which sounds you want I'll upload them
@@Bthelick WOW, I am certainly surprised to hear that no one asked for such lovely patches as the ones you created for the video. If I may be sold, please kind sir, could you upload the patches that you made for the video?
Love it great video! 👏🏼 just curious, are you using a particular scale on the ACRAZE one to achieve a certain tone as I noticed the notes C# & F# aren’t in the C minor or major scale?
Nope, as I say in the vid, literally any notes will do. That part is a drum / percussion part, the bass / tom sound doesn't have a proper pitch ( like most drums), you can hear as I move it around it's not melodic. The notes triggered aren't what is shown anyway (again like a drum) so it's just there to move in whatever direction sounds cool. Like triggering samples up and down the pads/keys. I'm basically programming it like a drum fill on loop, it just happens to be low frequency so it's acting/sounding like a bass hook. The pitch of the track is all set up by the dirty rave bass and other instruments before, the bass tom is just filling in, the notes don't matter.
@@Bthelick ahhh I see! Very interesting I didn’t know you could do that I thought it had to be in scale. Might sound like a stupid question as a chord stab with a melodic style progression is melodic and it isn’t a bass / tom with no pitch but can you apply this method with say a House stab sample? Just with you saying playing samples up and down the pads… ? I noticed when trying to play a melodic loop with a sample only very few notes sound good within the scale. Obviously each sound sounds different and it depends what key you are playing it in also but yeah still can you apply this in that?
@@RossTempo no it can't be applied to pitched elements like stabs or single note samples. This only works with unpitched drums. Unless it's rave / Hip hope vibes, then anything goes if it sounds good.
I recently had a problem with the whole song and my atmos. The keys were probably not in sync. If you got some sparetime, would you recon to make a video about how to make the right atoms/pads?
Yeah finding atmosphere / vibe is a good idea for a video. We can do pads too, but a great instrument for interesting pads is the free spitfire labs so make sure you try that.
Yes, and no. 1st of all it's against splice's terms of service, browsing and exposing the samples means anyone can just rip them. I personally wouldn't be too bothered but as a professional and public figure who relies a lot on the service I don't want to risk losing access. Regarding copyright, I have automatic claims yes. Record labels and artists who don't understand how to deal with samples properly, upload their tracks with splice samples in them but don't declare them as containing samples. So by doing so they claim full ownership of the contents illegally, and UA-cam assumes the ownership. The next time someone uses that sample UA-cam ID flags it as infringement. And it's a laborious process to prove otherwise. See my video on "what happened to my free samples" for a longer explaination.
We can sure, however you'd be surprised how many don't change, and in some cases it can even work against the genre! what Genre would you like to know this in?
I came across this video by accident, so don't mind me! That bit on Metallica isn't quite accurate. They're using chords alright, it's just that they're power chords; put the fifth and the root one octave above to get more power without adding character to the note, works really well for the genre and tames the usually noisy crunch those guitars run through. Also if you look outside of electronic for examples, you might find a mindblowing one... Baroque of all things. Chords became a trend in classical after J.S. Bach. If you listen to Bach, he doesn't really write chords, he just uses countermelodies to provide all the harmony he needed.
Appreciate the comment. yeah don't worry, I know full well what a power chord is😉. Metallica do indeed use mostly power chords in their riffs yes, but the principle stands, In terms of natural harmonics through distortion the 5th is in there regardless! there are plenty of times where just a good chug on a low E though those mesa boogie's still sounds much bigger than the sum on their parts, In the same way that a Synth patch with lots of harmonics will generate way beyond its played single note.
Well youtube id is automatic and trust me you don't want to get caught up in that appeal process when you don't have time. And yes robots with good aural AI ARE that strict, and so are major labels that think they own the samples. I have already had several songs flagged, and that's WITHOUT exposing the sample. Having said that it's not copyright I'm concerned with, It's the TOS of use for splice. If you expose the sample then there's no point splice existing! As they could just be ripped. As a splice user (and especially a public figure) you agree to those terms in order to use the service.
@@Bthelick ‘tis the law of the internet. Any mistake, whether it actually has impact on the storyline or not, must be corrected 😂 (and…well, youtube’s algorithms like it as well)
@@Bthelick workflow from vocal sample to track concept. finding the spirit of a vocal perhaps and building a song out from there. Seeing the workflow would be fun
Your videos literally answers question no one else does. Your channel is gold!
I once heard a producer say, “I went to music school for 8 years just to make one note bass lines” 😂 love your channel, personality, and examples! You’re a blessing. Thank you!
Well that's the problem with school.
None of it correlates to the real world.
The number of notes has never been correlated to the emotional resonance / 'success' of a certain audience.
There's even 1 note jazz solos!
@@Bthelick do you offer 1 on 1 teaching through zoom?
@@DJFINKMUSIC I don't have the time unfortunately
That actually helped. I watched so much Guy Mitchelmore / Christian Henson and their film composition videos ... which can be super interesting and helpful in terms of "climax" and "easy variations" (and G.A.S.). But that never quite fits into electronic music.
What I'd like to see is a similar topic "Genres that don't use melodies". For the same reason: if you as much as hint on anything like a melody, your superdark hardcore gabber speed core track instantly turns into Marusha's "Somewhere over the rainbow" 😖.
What I'd also like to see: a live lecture by you at Superbooth '24!
Ooo superbooth would be cool.
I have a friend in Berlin I promised I would visit sometime too.
I wonder how I could make that happen
this channel is the most helpful thing ive ever found.
Found your channel recently. Been catching up on the old videos. Good stuff
Thankyou! And welcome. \m/
@@Bthelick ay. This gonna become a classic playlist for a new producer looking for good tutorials
Have you done a video on the 'call and responce' technique? Greetings from Yorkshire btw
I talk about it in my melody video as "question and answer" in a musical sense but I haven't done anything using it in the context of production yet
This is the vid I needed.. thank you very much sir
Great! Interesting that I am drawn to try to produce exactly in these genres while trying to follow my urge to use many harmonies (being a piano player). I might have to suppress this urge (except in the breaks)! 😆
Haha same, it's always a problem if you have a harmony brain/ ears. the solution is usually just to get out to more clubs and concentrate on the dancing! The harmony alone can't create the groove!
LOVE THIS GUY
Id love synth idea not going to pass. Thank you so much.
Man,you're an angel ! ^^
I'd love a breakdown of synthesis types especially if it's in vital. Your videos and narration style are very pleasant.
I got you! 👊
ua-cam.com/video/3jvsNGYzx74/v-deo.html
10:14 definitely a yes as I am learning sound design. Would also be super awesome if you considered Ableton instruments too for a fully vanilla experience ❤️
Just made that video! Check the synth types vid.
I'm trying to keep it daw agnostic but I certainly do an Ableton specific one.
Having said that If you understand the synth types at their core then it translates across any instruments.
Check my synth video and let me know
@@Bthelick thanks really appreciate your reply, will check it out asap 😍🙏🏼
Please do a video on vital sound design and the ins and outs
Thanks. I've done 2. Well, 2 synth tutorials which are essential foundations to sound design, also the tech house bass video is basically a sound design tutorial.
I'm currently taking feedback on what people want for part 3 of the synth series, check those out and let me know. 👊❤️
its absolutely essential that i learn Techno, plus would be great to get a synth tutorial or two if they are going.
I have 2 synth tutorials up, on synth types and sounds design essentials. Have you seen those?
Or do you mean you'd like to see techno specific ones?
If so check out underdog music. Oscar over there is very good
@@Bthelick i did see them about 5 minutes after i posted. Have also been checking Oscars vids out as well.
Are you going to be putting out any proper courses in the near future?
@@adv8nturenick yeah still working on the courses. It's just finding time.
My German produced Uk Drill is c(h)ordless as well.
Awesome tutorials! Do you warp your reference tracks? I notice tracks are louder when warping with complex pro, does that mess up referencing? Or should I just leave the reference unwarped for loudness comparison and warp for rhythmic/instrumentation comparison? Thanks for your help
They will be louder on the meter, because the stretching/shortening causes constructive interference from phase changes. In exactly the same way I showed eq filters 'add level' in my "how not to master your tracks" video. The track isn't technically louder to our ears, just a digital peak meter. Don't pay attention to digital peak numbers.
I usually warp My reference tracks yes. I'm not aiming for exact sound replication, The convenience outweighs the quality loss.
In exactly the same way that I'm fine using an MP3 when a wav isn't to hand.
@@Bthelick Thank you for taking the time to reply! Your tutorials are really good
Great video as always
Thanks Phil (haven't forgotten you I'll reply to your email tomorrow hopefully) 👊❤️
Wonderful!
For the tech house vocal chop, how did you warp the vocals to be on beat with the 124bpm groove you established? I played around with different warps and couldn't get it quite right, curious if you manually chopped each word of the phrase e.g. "better" > "Than" > "sex" and warped each of those differently?
Really niche question but figured I'd ask regardless, your content is amazing
Not so niche I think, vocal timing is a tough one, I know many that struggle with it.
I snipped the words out manually and placed them on beat, it's not an 'effect' as such, if that makes sense. Better to chop them up here than try stretch them into that rhythm or else you'll generate lots of artifacts trying to add the silence in that wasn't there.
another great video
Thank you kindly, good sir. Any chance to get a re-upload of the vital patches again?
Your the first person to request so I haven't yet!
Let me know which you'd like pls I'll try get to it this weekend.
@@Bthelick Happy Sunday from Central Asia 🙏In regards, to the Vital patches, I was speaking about the ones that I assume were available in the past when someone clicked on the Google Drive link. Unfortunately, they are no longer available when I select them. I of course understand that you are most likely very busy with life in general. But as my mom always told me; it doesn't her to ask.
Happy Sunday! You misunderstood me, they were never available because no one requested until you!
The link still works it's just empty because I haven't uploaded any yet. there are too many sounds to upload all of them so just Let me know which sounds you want I'll upload them
@@Bthelick WOW, I am certainly surprised to hear that no one asked for such lovely patches as the ones you created for the video. If I may be sold, please kind sir, could you upload the patches that you made for the video?
@@carlosog5041 yes, which ones specifically ?
Love it great video! 👏🏼 just curious, are you using a particular scale on the ACRAZE one to achieve a certain tone as I noticed the notes C# & F# aren’t in the C minor or major scale?
Nope, as I say in the vid, literally any notes will do. That part is a drum / percussion part, the bass / tom sound doesn't have a proper pitch ( like most drums), you can hear as I move it around it's not melodic. The notes triggered aren't what is shown anyway (again like a drum) so it's just there to move in whatever direction sounds cool. Like triggering samples up and down the pads/keys.
I'm basically programming it like a drum fill on loop, it just happens to be low frequency so it's acting/sounding like a bass hook.
The pitch of the track is all set up by the dirty rave bass and other instruments before, the bass tom is just filling in, the notes don't matter.
@@Bthelick ahhh I see! Very interesting I didn’t know you could do that I thought it had to be in scale. Might sound like a stupid question as a chord stab with a melodic style progression is melodic and it isn’t a bass / tom with no pitch but can you apply this method with say a House stab sample? Just with you saying playing samples up and down the pads… ? I noticed when trying to play a melodic loop with a sample only very few notes sound good within the scale. Obviously each sound sounds different and it depends what key you are playing it in also but yeah still can you apply this in that?
@@RossTempo no it can't be applied to pitched elements like stabs or single note samples. This only works with unpitched drums.
Unless it's rave / Hip hope vibes, then anything goes if it sounds good.
are the techno, tech house patches available still?
hey sorry for the late reply, There are some in the desc. which ones in particular were you after?
@@Bthelick no worries, whatever you have would be a great help. Much appreciated. 👍😊
On it. Check the description link later I'll upload what I can find
I recently had a problem with the whole song and my atmos. The keys were probably not in sync. If you got some sparetime, would you recon to make a video about how to make the right atoms/pads?
Yeah finding atmosphere / vibe is a good idea for a video.
We can do pads too, but a great instrument for interesting pads is the free spitfire labs so make sure you try that.
Good work! The template files would be a dream :) Btw. which Ableton Theme ar you using?
template files? the music?
It's my own theme I made it with ableton themes site
Why cant you play single samples from splice? Copyright claims in place for royalty free samples?!
Yes, and no. 1st of all it's against splice's terms of service, browsing and exposing the samples means anyone can just rip them.
I personally wouldn't be too bothered but as a professional and public figure who relies a lot on the service I don't want to risk losing access.
Regarding copyright, I have automatic claims yes. Record labels and artists who don't understand how to deal with samples properly, upload their tracks with splice samples in them but don't declare them as containing samples. So by doing so they claim full ownership of the contents illegally, and UA-cam assumes the ownership. The next time someone uses that sample UA-cam ID flags it as infringement. And it's a laborious process to prove otherwise.
See my video on "what happened to my free samples" for a longer explaination.
Can you do a tutorial how do you change chord progression during chorus and in diffrent parts of the song arrangement?
Very cool videos bro! ❤
We can sure, however you'd be surprised how many don't change, and in some cases it can even work against the genre!
what Genre would you like to know this in?
@@Bthelick melodic techno or melodic dnb. Showing when to use inversions and how to build chorus out of your main chord progression.
@Bthelick very cool videos! Stay on this course and the channel will grow fast 100%.
I came across this video by accident, so don't mind me! That bit on Metallica isn't quite accurate. They're using chords alright, it's just that they're power chords; put the fifth and the root one octave above to get more power without adding character to the note, works really well for the genre and tames the usually noisy crunch those guitars run through.
Also if you look outside of electronic for examples, you might find a mindblowing one... Baroque of all things. Chords became a trend in classical after J.S. Bach. If you listen to Bach, he doesn't really write chords, he just uses countermelodies to provide all the harmony he needed.
Appreciate the comment. yeah don't worry, I know full well what a power chord is😉. Metallica do indeed use mostly power chords in their riffs yes, but the principle stands, In terms of natural harmonics through distortion the 5th is in there regardless! there are plenty of times where just a good chug on a low E though those mesa boogie's still sounds much bigger than the sum on their parts, In the same way that a Synth patch with lots of harmonics will generate way beyond its played single note.
Where did you find these vocals?
Splice. Good aren't they!
@@Bthelick yes I really want the better then sex vocal for a track I’m working on
Search "betta than" the singer is Krysta Young
@@Bthelick amazing
You could consider selling the Ableton projects that you are showing here. :)
The samples aren't mine to sell/redistribute!
If I ever make my own sample packs it could become a possibility.
You can't play the splice sample on it's own?
I don't think the copyright is THAT strict.
Well youtube id is automatic and trust me you don't want to get caught up in that appeal process when you don't have time.
And yes robots with good aural AI ARE that strict, and so are major labels that think they own the samples. I have already had several songs flagged, and that's WITHOUT exposing the sample.
Having said that it's not copyright I'm concerned with, It's the TOS of use for splice.
If you expose the sample then there's no point splice existing! As they could just be ripped. As a splice user (and especially a public figure) you agree to those terms in order to use the service.
Only comment for you I have, label the groups by colour 😂❤
Again KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid, it’s becoming a rule of life 😂
Brilliant…except that note is not e1…😊
Oh, you're referring to the manuscript E? Whoops! Thanks for the correction.
@@Bthelick ‘tis the law of the internet. Any mistake, whether it actually has impact on the storyline or not, must be corrected 😂 (and…well, youtube’s algorithms like it as well)
tech house uses a lot of chords
Some do. I do say that in the video.
Sound design tutorials would be great
Yes I've done a few, both synth tutorials and certain genres. Anything in particular you are after?
@@Bthelick workflow from vocal sample to track concept. finding the spirit of a vocal perhaps and building a song out from there. Seeing the workflow would be fun
@@Bthelick some of the bass house and tech house basses are interesting as well