Losi LMT vs Axial SMT10 - Things got SERIOUS!
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- Опубліковано 5 вер 2024
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Losi just launched the Losi LMT, a 10th scale solid axle super scale monster truck. This thing is ready for action, both available as a ready to run with a Grave Digger theme, or as a roller version where you can let your imagination run wild! The LMT features beefy axles with some high strength internals,, a twin vertical plate chassis, a center differential which features "Cush Drive", softening impacts on your drivetrain and an easy access tip-back cage construction, making the Losi LMT easy to work on. With its aluminium body and cap shocks, double sway bars, scale stance and racing pedigree your scale Monster Jam event can start happening in your own back yard real soon!
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Cush drive has been done for ages on motorbikes with a chain. Now you see it more and more in the RC hobby. Greetings from the Netherlands btw.
RC has had a couple of similar systems too, seeing it applied here though shows the level of technical engineering they were prepared to pour into it to make it durable, really cool! Greetings from a Dutch guy living in Norway. 😁👍🏼
nice to see you back doing what you do regularly.
Hey, thanks! More to come, Gerard. I hope you are well!
Great video and information. You have done your studying on that truck and everything makes sense for the person who is getting into the hobby of Monster trucks. I got into RC when I was about 25. On road cars, plains and now rock crawling / trail challenges. I watched many test and info videos before I made my decision on which all around crawler to buy for what I wanted to do. People like you that provide test and comparison videos make it easier for us to make our decisions.
Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and very help for me since I'm looking to get a modern scale MT. Within 2 minutes of your video I could tell the Losi LMT is not as scale as the Axial SMT10 in terms of axles and inner rims which have a much larger diameter than the outer rim. It looks great other than that. A bigger issue for me and I'm sure a lot of enthusiasts is the HUGE price difference between the two which I think hurts Losi. A Losi LMT roller can be had for $400 while a ARTR/RTR version is $600 USD. An axial roller is $200 and a RTR version is $300 USD. Even the HPI Wheely King RTR is $220-$240 USD so even if the latter trucks need a few upgraded parts they seem worth it over the very expensive Losi truck.
Yeah I bought a smt10 for that same reason but I’ve easily put $400 CAD into that truck to make it durable and faster. Would have been cheaper for me just to buy the Losi.
I've got a feeling this chassis is going to become ridiculously popular, almost 5T level. Can't wait to see you mod the shit out of it in future :D
Thanks for the comparison!!
You’re welcome, thanks for watching!
I got mine pre ordered n can't wait, awesome comparison Chris
Hope you enjoy it, have fun!
This comparison really helped with justifying the money on getting this truck. Love my Smt10 but you're right, to get it to the same level you're dropping way more money. Just the upgrades I've done to get the Smt10 a bit more scale (and still has link mounted shocks) I'm probably close to the LMT, and that's still on brushed power.
Rtr $300
Short links $100
Savox servo $100
Duratrax Munitions 2.2 $30x2 (still not scale looking but a good upgrade from stock)
Traxxas 12t 550 $30
$590
Not counting the HW 1080 I already had, and receiver (again had) to bind it to my Tx.
Again, it's WAAAAAAAY fun, shows that this LMT is good value for money even at $600 RTR.
On the Smt10, you can get it lower by mounting the shocks in the hole above the stock position. Just needs longer hardware with a spacer to keep the shock body off the cage, still not scale, but with tires and body mounted, but not to noticable (still is when you know though!).
Look forward to see the paint scheme and body you go with, it'll be killer I'm sure.
Greatr feedback, Tim. I think it shows why the extra initial cost of the Losi LMT can be justified. Thanks again for the continued support! :)
The LMT looks amazing!
I agree! Great looking truck!
Nice video! Nice comparison! it really points out how the SMT10 is really a repurposed crawler. Not bashing the Axial, I just got one! But for those critical that the Losi costs twice as much, I have found out the hard way, that upgrading mine (beef tubes, front sway bar, BL system, steel drive shafts, titanium steering link, etc.) I have now spent as much as I would have to get the Losi! There is LOT to like about the Axial, but compared to the Losi they are two different trucks completely, which is ironic, since they are both a Gravedigger mosnter truck model.
Ultimately, if you like tinkering, you can have a lot of fun upgrading the Axial. But if you break down what is in the Losi, the price is justified.
Spot on comment, the Axial is a good and fun truck, but a few flaws from it being repurposed can't be avoided. The LMT is here to stay!
Great compare vid man. Plenty of reviews out there but a compare vid really makes a big difference.
love the comparison, gonna preorder a son of a digger. Like the knife display in the back RESPECT. Love knives too!
Great video as always! Your command of the English language is amazing, I lived in Germany as a kid for four years, and never came near to speaking German as fluently as you speak English as a second language. Well done!
Not a big monster truck RC fan, this may change my mind🤔 Great comparison Chris! What about the 66 Ford or Chevy or maybe even the 56 Chevy or VW Bug. So many choices 😬
Will definitely have a look to see what I have to try out on this chassis. And it looks like there are a TON of options! 😃
I wasn't a fan of the monster trucks either, never even looked at the SMT10. As soon as I seen the Losi monster truck, I knew it would be a hit. It even went almost to the top of RCs I want to get.
Love the videos Chris and i will be buying a couple of these lmt trucks and doing 4 wheel steering as well friend.
Awesome video that thing is definitely bigger the smt10 rocks but I’d say Losi has it figured out can’t wait to see some running videos
Can’t wait until I can get mine I do enjoy the black unlike the SCX Gravedigger. Looking forward to seeing which system your going to put in. Take care brother ❤️👍😎
You get so much more for your money with the RTR version Chris.. The body is awesome but I really don't want to Scratch it up 🤪 I just tried some typhon 3s Tyres on the LMT and it looks like a British black Cab and drives like a cross between a rally /drift car 😜
You indeed get a lot of value for money on the RTR!
Don't like the bigger diameter inside wheel
$295 spent building up my SMT10
Max10 brushless motor/esc combo 3200kv $130
Axle tubes $10
Axle wideners 10 mm $10
Duratrax Munitions $70
HD Pinion set 13t-17t $15
HD bevel gear front/rear $60
Total investment ~$600 so far. The smt10 is fun but in hindsight I would have bought the LMT instead if it were available at the time.
Thanks for doing this video. I'm looking to get one and was undecided on wich one to get. You just help me pick the right one for me and what I want it for. Good job thanks
Glad I could help!
Hmmmm luv my smt replaced the rear axial to a vanquish I run jconcepts firestorm tires Amazon 22 dollar axials no issues with a hobbywing brushless but you can't compare it to a 1/8 drivetrain beast ...the losi is on a different level....nice review brother 👍
I LOVE THE LMT!! I put vitavon axles on it.
I own an smt10, im running a 4600kv motor on 2s and 3s lipo with clod buster wheels/tyres and ive only ever broken a couple of rod ends (depends how you drive it i guess), the only necessary mods besides the motor and wheels would be the alloy lower links and just recently some harden steel diff gears.
you say you need to spend a ton of money on the smt10 to make it durable but you dont and dont forget the losi cost twice as much.
i agree the the lower links should of been different but i find it has enough steering how it is.
im also running 2 sway bars with the shocks mounted on the lower links, but your dont really need sway bars if your going to run the shocks mounted on the axles.
the losi is probably stronger overall but id say the smt10 looks better for scale looks, the losi looks like Frankenstein's monster with all its mixed matched looking chassis parts and larger inside diameter wheels and why are losi using universal joints in the front axle instead of CVD's or even dog bones would of been smother.
yes i know i sound bias towards the smt10 but i really like mine after ive got it going good and i love how mine looks compared to the losi, esecialy when you see the losi with the grave digger body, it looks so dorky, anyway thats my 2 cents.
You haven’t broken driveshafts? They can’t even stand up to the stock motor.
@@dave-iq3dq lol, the stock motor is so weak if you managed to break drive shafts with the stock motor you have no idea what your doing, they hold up to my 4600kv no prob (at least 30 runs so far) at least im not talking up my truck saying how good it is with out having even run it like the guy in this video.
The SMT10 will always have a place in my heart and collection, but the LMT is just more purpose developed and it shows. I know it yields a larger price tag, but some of the upgrades you mention like a brushless system, the lower links, some proper sized wheels and tires, some steels gears quickly put them at an almost price comparable level. And I am convinced that all things considered, the Losi has the edge. Thank you for a well thought out comment though, I appreciate your viewership!
@@hemistormrc ok after seeing the mods you have done to your losi like the new axles and power system it looks like its adding up a lot more than the smt10, i like to customize rc's also and would do the same if i had a losi LMT but seeing alot of videos on how flawed (not only because the weather is cold) the axles are its a huge negative against the LMT especially if you cant afford to buy alloy axles or not able to mod them and lets face it, you shouldn't have to on a car designed to run with the motor it comes with.
Awesome video AS USUAL!! I was just wondering the difference between the two! I was about to purchase an smt10 builders kit kit but now Im not so sure.
Awesome looking truck the only thing I wondering is how the links hold up with that mounting point in the axle housing. Thanks for the vid can't wait to see it once your put your touch on it 👍🤘😁
Hello Alex, in all the bashing videos I have seen the mount of those links seems to be no problem at all. I can't wait to try mine out to see for myself how much abuse this truck can actually take. Thank you for watching!
Great comparison Chris you did axial & Losi their due justice I have 2 smt 10's & just ordered 2 Losi LMT rtr's the GD & S uva D kibda big investment butt worth it no need for upgrades and for scale realism next to a scale 1/10 crawler the size more realistic, look forward to your body choice & paint job
Didn't expect the lmt to be so good! Would have loved to have seen a separate slave damper but maybe that can be a custom upgrade.
Indeed, I think you will see a ton of option parts appear after these become widely available through hobby shops and other retail points.
Wow! Thanks for putting all those trucks side by side and with the bodies off. We can really see and compare.
The shock placement has got to help with durability and probably handling too.
Does it have a center diff? You probably covered that kind of stuff in the unboxing. I'll head over there.
Don't know why I didn't get that in my feed.
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Still my favorite intro bro!
Totally need one of these in my stable! That LMT looks beefy! The cost of the Axial is enticing too! Let's be real, eventually, I'll have one of each lol!
I have both, After getting the LMT I turned my SMT into a Mega Truck.
Thank for this man. Can't wait to see your electronics pick!! (1/8 motor check too. LOL)
Great review. You hit it spot on.
Hooray for everything
They look awesome! And realistic!👌😎👍
I fully agree, I think Losi made a great truck with the LMT!
awesome comparison and yeah axial was filling a open market, so it was there vs having nothing at all as a basher besides the ground pounder.
Seeing more and more serious options become available is definitely a cool development. Axial opened a door.
@@hemistormrc So glad they did!
If they were only a little bigger like 1/8 or so. The LHS has one, but I hesitate to get it. Maybe Losi will come out with one, a little bigger than the LMT.
What was the end result of your SSD Trail King?
Interchangeable is correct in the USA 🤘🏼💯
I think you should paint it like a The Undertaker theme, dude that would look sick man! The way you paint dude, Yeah man I think you could pull it off! Good luck! Man!
Nice video. I have an smt axial and I want to put Jay concept Renegades on there. But I think there's a 12 mm hex drive on the axial, and it sounds like there's a 17mm female on the Renegade Wheels and Tires. Will an adapter work?
I have a losi grave digger on order now
Bein waiting for this battle of the monster trucks have whatever smt10 for sometime but now I don't know let's see what's what 👍👍👍
Good explanation appreciate it
I'm glad I found these videos I was thinking about getting a smt you changed my mind on that I don't want to throw a whole lot of money just to have fun. I like that little seat LMT I think you sold me on that.
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From what I've seen there is no comparison.
A quick glance might have people confused. A close inspection will indeed show that it’s apples and oranges. I hope you’re well!
I think the smt10 looks better and more realistic as far as the chassis goes. Real trucks don't have vertical plate chassis
This LMT seems stronger than the SMT version. I don't buy the last version cause of the lot of upgrade necessary to have a quality models. But I have a better feeling with thisone. Is it the case?
From what I have been able to see so far, the LMT is in an entirely different league all together. Way stronger, everything oversized, truly on a whole new level.
The lmt wheels look goofy the insides of the wheel hubs are wider than the outside
Easy fix with some black paint, I think the engineering outweighs the look in this case.
When it comes to monster trucks I’m all about scale
Need the LMT!
Ok $699 ends up being around $770 after tax
So with $770 limit you can get a pretty bulletproof Smt10. The size is different is so be considered though.
I preorded the LMT, my only question now is...who wants to buy an SMT10 Max D???
Keep it, never enough trucks!
@@hemistormrc Never enough space either lol. The LMT looks like a monster, no pun intended.
Sadly I call shenanigans on the durability. The axial ar60 axles are far stronger then the lmt axles. A quick search will prove how brittle the lmt axles are and how much abuse the smt10 can take. A cheap brushless upgrade on the smt10 and it surpasses the lmt in every way
Hey Hemistorm could you do a video on how to mount a body to the roller? I want the roller but I'm wondering how to fit a body shell cause i know its a little abnormal
Will do!
I hope this losi lmt is not a limited edition truck cause I'm trying to save up for one.
AMain has Affirm payment. small fee if paid in 3, 6 or 12 months, just FYI. am waiting soon
Just found your Instagram and your channel! Great review bro! I’ve been thinking of getting the LMT! I’ve noticed in the vids I’ve watched it seems to be a bit front heavy/prone to nose dive. Have you noticed this? It may be just bad driving😂! It also seems too heavy in the corners😬. What are your thoughts on this and maybe a fix to help it bash better? I’m newish to the hobby and have had an e-revo 2.0, have an XMAXX, and just finished my M2C upgrade on my newer Mojave. I love to go big on the jumps!! Thanks in advance for you insight to this nooob!
I wounder now that some time has past do you feel the same way still looks like you haven't run the lmt yet.
Basically one is typical traxxas and one is typical losi. Losi always puts a lot of R&D into all their rigs. Traxxas is more about entry level and cheap replacement parts which is great for the industry but in the quest to build an ultimate rig it will never be a traxxas. Or if it is, is has so many aftermarket parts on it you will be lucky if your receiver box is still traxxas. But there is room for everyone in this hobby, to each their own
please recomend for smt builders kit differential fluid? thank you
I need one of the rc monster truck body
Do you still recommend getting this kit and did they fix the axle issues 🤔
My question is for twice the money do you get twice the truck?
In my opinion, three times the truck. It is heaps better in the durability department.
I would love to have a lmt grave digger but I don't have the money.
I drive a 18weeler for a living
This is a great starting point Losi has offered. But I would LOVE if they offered it in a kit form. I know this will not be under TLR side of Losi but a kit would be cool for the builders of the RC hobby.
From what I have seen axles might be sold separately, and I can imagine it only being a matter of time before a kit will appear at some point. Let's keep our fingers crossed!
Thanks Hemi! I was wondering about the size comparison and you’ve answered that :-) What are you plans for paint scheme? Themed perhaps? I call my SMT10 the “Spartan Warrior” I’ve always admired your paint work and design. I use some of your techniques myself. Thank you for those how to videos. It really helped me improve my skills. Now if I just had more time 😂 Your new studio looks awesome too!
Knowing how fragile the SMT 10 is, I’m kinda scared to run it with Traxxas Stampede electronics.
So they are both gravedigger but ones double in price so it should be better quality
I saw a bash video and after 3 backflips it broke the back axel on the losi
The amt10 did like 10or 20 flips and broke nothing......
People push the Losi LMT with the beefier looking axles, but they seem to break just as easy.
Built to last!👍
Most definitely!
I have a lose grave digger on order
Can you make the losi 4 rear steer
Awesome brother 👍👊😎
Is the new LMT available now, or do we have to wait a while...???
First week of January buy the looks of it. Thank you for watching!
Cannot wait to see how this one turns out, so impressed with what Losi have created with this rig. Add that with the amazing paint job you will undoubtedly create and then BAM.!!!
L.uda-chris M.onster T.ruck
Cheers mate👍
As you'd expect, Losi did what Axial failed to do. No disrespect to Axial, but they're easily beat here
Yes indeed, the extra time Losi took to develop something that is purpose built really shows. I think they set a new bench mark for solid axle monster trucking with this LMT. Thank you for watching!
Losi just makes a better RC car.
Axial and Losi made by the same company
Been looking aound but can find info, is the SMT10 open diff?
You can always open and close diffs anyway with thick oil so doesn't matter 👍
Really enjoying the LMT 😜
Yes the SMT is open diff. Not sure about the LMT.
The LMT cost twice as much as the SMT10...
The SMT10 is a kids toy, and the LMT is for adults. Plain and simple. lol
A messed up I bought the Axial smt 10 first a week after here comes the Losi Grave digger Im like is that fair...lol damn
Interchangeable
Wonder if the lmt axles will fit under the smt10 🤔
I would not recommend trying it, seeing how well the truck is built. Truly well put together and all parts in harmony with each other.
Touché
Love you/elsker deg ❤️
Elsker deg også! :)
Cool.
y such a long channel name
It wouldn’t be hard to turn the smt10 into a crawler
It woild be a Wraith, haha!
Lol cheese and rice dude! you can’t compare the 2, ones 300$ and it’s a 1/10 the others 600$ and that one’s a 1/8 scale.. There’s no comparing the 2 if you can afford the lmt buy it if not get the smt10. Lol
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Thanks for the visit, Steve!
I love axial.... but..... there's no competing with the losi haha.
Its so bad ass.
You can't really call this a vs as Losi, and Axial are both owned by Horizon.
Running vidio please
It better be sweet. Its literally twice the price.
It is sweet I ashru
Sweet sorry I’m late Chris in the hospital got fluid in the lungs a d mystery liver damage. Day two wish me luck ps getting old sucks lol
Oh no, please stay safe and healthy, Mike!
@@hemistormrc am home now got lucky Thanks Chris
All Axial with these Axles are a Nightmare an real Money Pits.Looking very cool but 0 Capable out of the Box. Yeti, Wraith, Smt10 and Bomber are the worst Rc's from a Big Rc Brand I know. Every Screw, everything is in Dimensions for a real 1/10 Scale. But they are bigger,almost like a real 1:8 Scale but not the Screws and driveshafrs etc.!
I broke 2 survos for the new axel sc10 I would have never bought the Axels sc10 if Losi was going to fix the issues I would have waited
Just say the word and i'll hop on a plane with my tondeuse. :)
Hahaha, would be cool if we can have a get together again at some point!
Hooray
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Cheers!
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Cheers!