Ill probably just stick with carpro hydro2 foam. I foam it on AFTER i rinse off my hand wash soap and it leaves excellent protection. I also have an air applicator for the original hydro2 that works quite well.
In a meguiars video I watched before they said the hybrid mitt makes sure the sio2 stick and without it it didn’t work as well I’m curious if you tried the new wash and wax with the mitt and used both sides of that would change the results ?
That was with the precious formulation. I talked with someone in development over there and he said it's not needed for the new stuff. I found that if I apply this direct to a wash mitt, it works well protection wise.
I always thought that the two separate liquid thing was weird and a marketing hype in my opinion to draw the consumer in and make them think it's some sort of special "extra" stuff you are adding to your chemical. Looks like Mequiars probably thought the same thing (or it wasn't as good of a seller as they thought it would be originally? Who knows). I use the Griot's Garage Ceramic Wash and Coat. It definitely leaves a little bit of additional beading and slickness to the paint. Not game changer by any sense of the word or meaning, but it does perform well and does what it says it will do on the label. I don't think it leaves much (if any) protection, but I don't put much faith into ANY car wash product having any useful amount of protection in them anyway. It's kind of a hard trick to create a useful WASH product that has enough protection in it to being anything meaningful. I've personally never found one that actually worked real well on the "protection" end of the product. That being a wash and wax, wash and seal, wash and ceramic, whatever product that claims it can actually "wax" your vehicle upon you washing it. They all wash, but hardly any of them actually PROTECT (Wax, Seal, Ceramic Coat, etc.) the surfaces being washed. After I use my Griot's Ceramic Wash N Coat, it does have some noticeable protection addition to the surface, although it's very slight. And I always use the Griot's Garage Ceramic Speed Shine (one of the best drying aides on the market at this moment in time in my personal opinion) so I am always "topping up" my protection anyway. I have found that the synergy between the Griot's Garage products is really good. I can use their Ceramic Wash & Coat, then use their Ceramic Speed Shine as a drying aide, and then follow that with their Ceramic 3 in 1 wax as my protection stage and everything works great together. Now I only use the 3-in-1 wax every fourth wash (once a month or so) over the top of the Ceramic Speed Shine but I personally have never had a problem doing that and I have never seen "build up" you hear about from some others by layering products over the top of other products or simply layering for so long that it builds up on top of many different types of products. I think a good rule of thumb (which some other detailers have also talked about) is SYNERGY. Sticking with one brand sometimes is a good thing as the company (or at least the REPUTABLE companies) have already done the extensive testing (and field beta testing) with their product(s) so that you know that you will most likely get a good user experience when you use them together with other products from that company. Griot's Ceramic line up (which I have every product from their Ceramic line except the new Ceramic Rinseless wash), does work well together. I have had no problem whatsoever using the ceramic line up together with other Griot's ceramic products. Anyone who put's any type of faith in any of these products actually leaving your vehicle with a "PROTECTED" finish, is not a car detailer or enthusiast by any stretch of the imagination. It's probably a consumer that washes their car every so often and just needed a car wash from the store. Great review again Martin. I always enjoy your candor and I know if you review and test a product, you will give your honest opinion (good or bad) on how the product(s) perform. And that means everything. Too many influencers out their get sucked into that $$ hole if you know what I mean. I know you value honesty and will only give your honest opinion or the product will go right into the trash can. Well, actually, I think you have actually thrown a few dud's into the trash can already! Thanks again for all your honest reviews and testing. It takes a ton of your own personal time filming, editing, and presenting these videos and it is much appreciated sir. Take care buddy and see you on the next one.
I bought a bottle of the "new" ceramic wash-n-wax a few months ago and it was NOWHERE near as clear as your bottle. It is completely solid yellow and THICK - nowhere near as runny as yours. On my black Porsche the protection/beading was okay at best, but the gloss was actually reduced i'd say. Definitely not as deep and glossy as regular old Gold Class or Adams shampoo. I'm wondering if they are still sorting this formula out.
@@BelLavoroAutoSpa Youre right; I went and checked. It is the Ultimate wash-n-wax, not the ceramic. So it's carnuba based. My bad. Still, same results - the Adams definitely still beats it. Also just tried the Adams Graphene Shampoo and its okay. Also tried it as a mix. The regular Adams still seems to be the top performer on pure gloss black imho (although I havent tried Gyeon or Koch yet...)
Armour all ceramic wash n wax is under rated. Leaves behind good hydrophobics and noticeable increase in gloss. Also gets better results with repeated washes can replace sealants for many people. One other ceramic wash n wax that actually works is turtle wax ceramic wash.
Thank you so much for your reply darknight160😊 🙏 In my country, we have green bottled wash labelled as "ArmorAll Shield + Ceramic Car Wash" while another orange bottled labelled as "ArmorAll Speed Shine Wash and Wax". I will get the green bottled as you've recommended. Thank you so much again 😃
@@priscillang1097 I should be more clear the soap in the bottle is green. But ya I think the shield one is correct. Great soap if you can't be bothered to apply sealant every few months. This ceramic soap has lasted 4 months on some of my vehicles. Use it every wash and sealants become irrelevant in my opinion.
Some error here I think , the car is super contaminated as of the flat water behavior on a ceramic coated car , I think this product need a clean paint surface to add it protection otherwise it will all rinse off. And yes it’s for already protected paints and add and longer the protection like a quick detailer will do and the previous version.
Is there any ceramic wash and wax products that ever really work? I feel like these are purely for maintaining slightly dirty ceramic coated cars, not ones that have failed or has so much clogging, nothing short of a full decontamination will revive. edit: sorry you answered this at the end
One thing you might want to consider for products that don’t yield immediate results is to dry the car off and give the chemical time to cure for let’s say a 30 minutes or so, the test it for beading, I’m sure you’ll be surprised
I've been down that road with a couple of soaps where that was suggested. Slight improvement, nothing to write home about. Personally, I don't care for ceramic maintenance shampoos. Give me good results or I'll just use a good car shampoo and top it with a detailer.
I would say just wash the car and follow-up with Quick Beads DIY or Wet Coat from Gyeon. Looks like the new version is cheaper product in quality and is easier to use.
This doesn’t look too good at all. I will stick with the TW ceramic wash for the time being. It’s been giving excellent results over the colder months, topping up my already protected car.
Well I hope that meguiar's will not stop the previous version of Hybrid ceramic wash and wax! Because this new version does not seem to be up to date regarding hydrophobicity! With the old version for maintaining a ceramic coating where the hybrid ceramic range is really great, when using it correctly it's amazing. Yes there are 2 solutions but it doesn't bother me! Otherwise good review my friend 👌 Hoping that the M888 ceramic coating will do better, that it at least competes with a carpro CQuartz lite!. Because I like the Meguiar's brand. If it's worth it I would like to test the new M888, maybe even test with hybrid paint coating as topper and maintenance with M799 pro hybrid ceramic bead booster and the "old" hybrid ceramic wash and wax shampoo for a good mono brand.
3 year and I only did 1 layer when it's supposed to be 2. Not doing great on the lower-rear half. I believe he had said it's expected 1 year with 1 layer.
Meguiars are hit and miss company they do some brilliant products and some rubbish and to many products that are really old these days also they need to update there products to that been out yrs. price with them to they are very expensive. This product is awful what were there r and d team doing especially as this version 2. I know u tried to I think the gtechnic ceramic wash the one I use and putting a little neat on the mitt makes a difference good video
I knew it, lackluster performance. Before you posted this, I went and bought 4 more bottles of the old version. Hopefully when the reviews get around, they'll bring back the old version. 2 separate liquids isn't that big a deal. There is nothing like the original version on the market.
Thanks for the tests. You just saved me $15 from Walmart. I cannot believe how bad this product is vs the old version. Subbed.
Ill probably just stick with carpro hydro2 foam. I foam it on AFTER i rinse off my hand wash soap and it leaves excellent protection.
I also have an air applicator for the original hydro2 that works quite well.
Kinda had hopes too. But the old one is amazing and call me dork but fun to use. 😊
This is actually a really great soap in a foam cannon, I don’t follow instructions and add 6oz with 32 oz foam cannon
Yeah i think the yellow wash and wax is meant to be followed with the spray ceramic wax for your maintenance washes. At least fhats how i use mine.
This better then both of them Armor All Extreme Shield Ceramic Car Wash - 50 FL OZ🙂🙂
I do like that one
In a meguiars video I watched before they said the hybrid mitt makes sure the sio2 stick and without it it didn’t work as well I’m curious if you tried the new wash and wax with the mitt and used both sides of that would change the results ?
That was with the precious formulation. I talked with someone in development over there and he said it's not needed for the new stuff. I found that if I apply this direct to a wash mitt, it works well protection wise.
I always thought that the two separate liquid thing was weird and a marketing hype in my opinion to draw the consumer in and make them think it's some sort of special "extra" stuff you are adding to your chemical. Looks like Mequiars probably thought the same thing (or it wasn't as good of a seller as they thought it would be originally? Who knows). I use the Griot's Garage Ceramic Wash and Coat. It definitely leaves a little bit of additional beading and slickness to the paint. Not game changer by any sense of the word or meaning, but it does perform well and does what it says it will do on the label. I don't think it leaves much (if any) protection, but I don't put much faith into ANY car wash product having any useful amount of protection in them anyway. It's kind of a hard trick to create a useful WASH product that has enough protection in it to being anything meaningful. I've personally never found one that actually worked real well on the "protection" end of the product. That being a wash and wax, wash and seal, wash and ceramic, whatever product that claims it can actually "wax" your vehicle upon you washing it. They all wash, but hardly any of them actually PROTECT (Wax, Seal, Ceramic Coat, etc.) the surfaces being washed. After I use my Griot's Ceramic Wash N Coat, it does have some noticeable protection addition to the surface, although it's very slight. And I always use the Griot's Garage Ceramic Speed Shine (one of the best drying aides on the market at this moment in time in my personal opinion) so I am always "topping up" my protection anyway. I have found that the synergy between the Griot's Garage products is really good. I can use their Ceramic Wash & Coat, then use their Ceramic Speed Shine as a drying aide, and then follow that with their Ceramic 3 in 1 wax as my protection stage and everything works great together. Now I only use the 3-in-1 wax every fourth wash (once a month or so) over the top of the Ceramic Speed Shine but I personally have never had a problem doing that and I have never seen "build up" you hear about from some others by layering products over the top of other products or simply layering for so long that it builds up on top of many different types of products. I think a good rule of thumb (which some other detailers have also talked about) is SYNERGY. Sticking with one brand sometimes is a good thing as the company (or at least the REPUTABLE companies) have already done the extensive testing (and field beta testing) with their product(s) so that you know that you will most likely get a good user experience when you use them together with other products from that company. Griot's Ceramic line up (which I have every product from their Ceramic line except the new Ceramic Rinseless wash), does work well together. I have had no problem whatsoever using the ceramic line up together with other Griot's ceramic products. Anyone who put's any type of faith in any of these products actually leaving your vehicle with a "PROTECTED" finish, is not a car detailer or enthusiast by any stretch of the imagination. It's probably a consumer that washes their car every so often and just needed a car wash from the store. Great review again Martin. I always enjoy your candor and I know if you review and test a product, you will give your honest opinion (good or bad) on how the product(s) perform. And that means everything. Too many influencers out their get sucked into that $$ hole if you know what I mean. I know you value honesty and will only give your honest opinion or the product will go right into the trash can. Well, actually, I think you have actually thrown a few dud's into the trash can already! Thanks again for all your honest reviews and testing. It takes a ton of your own personal time filming, editing, and presenting these videos and it is much appreciated sir. Take care buddy and see you on the next one.
I bought a bottle of the "new" ceramic wash-n-wax a few months ago and it was NOWHERE near as clear as your bottle. It is completely solid yellow and THICK - nowhere near as runny as yours. On my black Porsche the protection/beading was okay at best, but the gloss was actually reduced i'd say. Definitely not as deep and glossy as regular old Gold Class or Adams shampoo. I'm wondering if they are still sorting this formula out.
You sure that wasn't the ultimate wash and wax? Sounds like it from what you describe. This new one just came out like 2 weeks ago.
@@BelLavoroAutoSpa Youre right; I went and checked. It is the Ultimate wash-n-wax, not the ceramic. So it's carnuba based. My bad. Still, same results - the Adams definitely still beats it. Also just tried the Adams Graphene Shampoo and its okay. Also tried it as a mix. The regular Adams still seems to be the top performer on pure gloss black imho (although I havent tried Gyeon or Koch yet...)
Armour all ceramic wash n wax is under rated. Leaves behind good hydrophobics and noticeable increase in gloss. Also gets better results with repeated washes can replace sealants for many people. One other ceramic wash n wax that actually works is turtle wax ceramic wash.
Agreed
Hi, may I know if you're referring to their "Speed Shine Wash and Wax" or "+ Ceramic Car Wash "? I'm looking for a better option
@@priscillang1097 Armour all ceramic wash n wax. It's in green bottle
Thank you so much for your reply darknight160😊 🙏 In my country, we have green bottled wash labelled as "ArmorAll Shield + Ceramic Car Wash" while another orange bottled labelled as "ArmorAll Speed Shine Wash and Wax". I will get the green bottled as you've recommended. Thank you so much again 😃
@@priscillang1097 I should be more clear the soap in the bottle is green. But ya I think the shield one is correct. Great soap if you can't be bothered to apply sealant every few months. This ceramic soap has lasted 4 months on some of my vehicles. Use it every wash and sealants become irrelevant in my opinion.
It will bead just like the Armour all. Just have to build a foundation layer + make the mix a little stronger
Yea it does work at a stronger mix I found
Some error here I think , the car is super contaminated as of the flat water behavior on a ceramic coated car , I think this product need a clean paint surface to add it protection otherwise it will all rinse off.
And yes it’s for already protected paints and add and longer the protection like a quick detailer will do and the previous version.
I just decontamination it a month ago with acid water spot remover. Paint is as clean as its gonna get. ✨️
where can i find a similar sheet, seems really useful
nice video by the way, been looking for someone to review this new product
@@CirclesAreRound what do you mean by a similar sheet?
@@BelLavoroAutoSpa my fault I meant the dilution chart 😂
@@CirclesAreRound search Google for chemical guys dilution chart. Should be able to get ounces and ml
Is there any ceramic wash and wax products that ever really work?
I feel like these are purely for maintaining slightly dirty ceramic coated cars, not ones that have failed or has so much clogging, nothing short of a full decontamination will revive.
edit: sorry you answered this at the end
There are many. I mention them at the end of the video. But you are also correct about these types of products.
What problem does this product solve? Can't you just use HCD as a drying aid?
You are absolutely correct
Interesting as this newer, yellow product isn't even listed on Meguiar's website...
It was last I checked unless it's been taken down.
Perhaps if you wash with the 2 part wash first then the second product 2nd you will get similar results.
Tried it and made no difference, also asked meguiars they said that mitt is not necessary.
One thing you might want to consider for products that don’t yield immediate results is to dry the car off and give the chemical time to cure for let’s say a 30 minutes or so, the test it for beading, I’m sure you’ll be surprised
I've been down that road with a couple of soaps where that was suggested. Slight improvement, nothing to write home about. Personally, I don't care for ceramic maintenance shampoos. Give me good results or I'll just use a good car shampoo and top it with a detailer.
I would say just wash the car and follow-up with Quick Beads DIY or Wet Coat from Gyeon. Looks like the new version is cheaper product in quality and is easier to use.
Nice Lap3 sticker
Always representing my favorite tuning company
Just get the Wolfgang and call it a day. 🙂
Been meaning to try that one
This doesn’t look too good at all. I will stick with the TW ceramic wash for the time being. It’s been giving excellent results over the colder months, topping up my already protected car.
Well I hope that meguiar's will not stop the previous version of Hybrid ceramic wash and wax! Because this new version does not seem to be up to date regarding hydrophobicity! With the old version for maintaining a ceramic coating where the hybrid ceramic range is really great, when using it correctly it's amazing. Yes there are 2 solutions but it doesn't bother me! Otherwise good review my friend 👌
Hoping that the M888 ceramic coating will do better, that it at least competes with a carpro CQuartz lite!. Because I like the Meguiar's brand. If it's worth it I would like to test the new M888, maybe even test with hybrid paint coating as topper and maintenance with M799 pro hybrid ceramic bead booster and the "old" hybrid ceramic wash and wax shampoo for a good mono brand.
lots of good stuff from megs. i do not think this shampoo is bad, but was marketed poorly
False advertisement. Best to stick with meguiar’s hyper wash and gyeon wet coat combo.
Looking like that 5 year ryan west coating failing at 10 months no bueno
3 year and I only did 1 layer when it's supposed to be 2. Not doing great on the lower-rear half. I believe he had said it's expected 1 year with 1 layer.
Kinda different products with the same name by the same brand. The old one seems better at what you actually want, leaving protection on the vehicle.
Essentially yes. Sharing the same name is a bit confusing.
Meguiars are hit and miss company they do some brilliant products and some rubbish and to many products that are really old these days also they need to update there products to that been out yrs. price with them to they are very expensive. This product is awful what were there r and d team doing especially as this version 2. I know u tried to I think the gtechnic ceramic wash the one I use and putting a little neat on the mitt makes a difference good video
I knew it, lackluster performance. Before you posted this, I went and bought 4 more bottles of the old version. Hopefully when the reviews get around, they'll bring back the old version. 2 separate liquids isn't that big a deal. There is nothing like the original version on the market.
yea the original formula is great
Looks like dud. They cant figure out how to get suds with ceramic yet
It's usually one or the other
You should dip that mitt tons more times than you did. You were just scratching that dirt all around
Thanks for your feedback
Wow not great :/
Don’t like the look of that stuff at all.
Figures 🥱