Looking at the whole fall, the game is clearly designed to prevent the player from reaching any platforms or recovery points until they touch the ground. So it's an unfair fall by design. I can forgive some of the other parts of the game that are a hard or punishing but let you recover after a relatively short fall, but this? This is just bullying.
Instead of whining about this on a UA-cam video that the dev of the game wont see, why don't you man up and tell them about how you feel Mr. game dev. Guess you didn't play many old school games where if you died near the end of the game, you had to start over from the beginning if you had no more continues. Gamers/devs these days are babies compared to gamers/devs of the past.
@@HoloProEnjoyer Oh, I spent my childhood playing NES and SNES games and also DOS games that had no saves and needed to be finished in one sitting. Super Mario Bros and Prince of Persia come to mind. In those games, you lost because of your own mistakes, not because of a troll trap. You had 3 lives (on average) and checkpoints (sometimes). You didn't get sent to the beginning of the game just because the dev decided to put a hidden trap that has no correlation to the rest of the game experience. And I mean this part especially. Up to that point, in this game you know you can slide to the side while falling to aim for a platform below and recover yourself. This specific trap prevents the player from doing that by activating invisible walls. That doesn't follow the game rules and is just a bad way of making a game "more challenging". Also, regarding your suggestion to "tell the devs how you feel", do you really think I'd be the first person to tell them about it? And do you think they'd change something they put there on purpose to troll the player? I don't think so. So the best I can do is point out their unfair game design in a YT video comment that nobody will read. Except you. XD
@@HoloProEnjoyerbuddy, this dumb game plagiarised a bunch of the assets and abused the free non-commercial ones, the game design is purely dumb and unfair. Old school games dont last for hours like this abomination, even getting over it wasnt this bad and actually had balance, this is a game that some kid who took a look at GOI and a bunch of free assets and thought "how can i make smth similar but still sell" and this pile of trash came to be. Also the game has so many bugs and errors that a separate speedrun category had to be made
The only warning in this section is that there is a second longer path to your left when you go trough that arch. And that things can fall down is teased earlier in the ice region (where the platforms break). Later I also learned that you can jump on the platform when your jump on the second pizza.
Even tho this is unquestionably bad game design, in exchange we get to see a lore-accurate depiction of hope descending. I wouldnt be playing this, but thanks for the entertainment.
That fall is all the proof you need to tell that the developers never had any intention of making a good game. They just wanted to make a Getting Over It ripoff while using nonsense trolls to increase difficulty since they couldn't be bothered to make fair difficulty.
Yeah, if they were going to troll or make a trial-and-error segment to put it very generously, they should have at least placed a platform to catch the player.
And in exchange they got popular. I dont like where this is going; developers developing for purpose of entertainment instead of actually implementing proper game design by the rules. They probably did not expect the game to be popular, but because of the exposure of a few popular streamers especially pekora.
@@alfredong6850 I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but this game was not designed to be entertaining. It was designed to be challenging. It is a blatant attempt to be a "beat this if you have the skillz" type of game. They are just trying to taunt people, and, unfortunately, it's working. There aren't enough people who understand the difference between a fair challenge and unfair nonsense. A fair challenge will always be the player's fault for their failure while unfair nonsense are unpredictable traps like we see here. It's important to pay attention to why something is difficult.
@@kylerivera3470 You call it a game. I call it "entertainment software". Thats how badly designed of a 'game' it is. It is not designed with the intent to challenge players, its designed with the intent to entertain viewers; these clips are undeniable proof. To me this is beyond comparison of a "difference between a fair challenge and unfair nonsense. " Because any reason for the developer to place that 'trap' is unlikely to be any of the 2.
Why did she wait so long to hit the slow down and look for a good fall point? I just can't understand that level of panic lol... She could have EASILY hit that first bird platform probably but just lost her cool so bad
It wouldn't have worked. That particular part of the game is designed so that if you step on the cheese, it will bring you pretty much all the way back down to the bottom without any chance of recovery. Something about invisible walls built in there like a funnel or something like that.
@@sleeplessknight99 Can confirm same thing happened to me. For some reason I couldn't move like normal to reach anything. Not sure why they made a trap near the end of the game just to break all the rules and kill you.
I remember learning about that trick platform via a VTuber Universe clip of Shien falling through it. And man, IRyS's panic as she fell quickly left a mark on my mind. XD
Jump King and Getting Over It have long falls, but they don't try to deceive you about it. If you fall in those games, it's a skill issue. Here, the game is deliberately trying to trick you into falling, and there's no clue whatsoever to hint that it may be a trap. It's deliberate asshole design.
It might be akutan first.. then pekora later.... and maybe fubuki didn't get trapped by this? Not 100% sure. Just to give an early answer from my perspective here. Somebody who watches everything will probably correct me.
Pekora was felled first. Fubuki crossed the pizzas safely before stepping on the large cheese. Koyori failed to land on the plate, therefore not counted as trapped, and so was not funneled all the way to the bottom. Then Aqua.
@@Priogen By the time Calli reached this point, she was open about the fact that she would quit if she fell all the way down, so she had been warned far in advance. She crossed on the platforms to the left.
It's not trolling because trolling is funny. This is just creating a situation where the player is almost certainly going to fail and then calling it funny because you're a hack. I wish these games would stop getting so much attention.
The part you're thinking of is probably from her stream after this one. I assume the part where she gets stuck on the beanstock and starts cursing afterwards
If I fell all the way to the ground from so high up due to such a cheap trap, I'd install a trainer that allows you to fly in the game in order to have revenge.
And that how Hope descended & shattered ....... Oof Well, at least IRyS fulfilled my wishlist, I really want to see what happens when people fall straight down in this game.. lol
i've seen a clip where you can glitch through something by rolling and you can finish the game under a two minutes and my tiny ass brain can't comprehend what happen
That platform is biggest Fu** you devs could have made for their players. Games could be frustrating but in those types of games you don't expect the dev to make a trap because the game is already difficult. Don't remember Getting Over It or Jump King increasing the difficulty (what in this game is mostly just the time spent on climbing) by "lying" to the player. I would expect something like that in I wanna be the Guy/Boshi as they are difficult and unfair, but not from such game 🫤
I played it myself and fell for this dirty trick too. There's no warning, and no expected reason to introduce a trap mechanic right near the end of the game. The game gave an impression of hard but fair, with failure being on your own mistake, and then it does this to you. It sends you all the way to the beginning. After this you realize there's no point to continue playing if you will lose 2 hours of climbing progress, just because the devs might have another trap ahead to just artificially kill you.
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I like how she keeps switching between Japanese and English out of pure rage
And this is how Irys came to Holo universe.
Not enough, it needs to be 3 times to descent.
Hope has Descended!!!
Discovered irys is capable of making a lot of different sounding grunts this stream lmao
0:35 one of the most unique IRyS screams that I've heard
Just Irys re-enacting her arrival
IrysEN.exe has stopped working.
Oh man if Kanata plays this her chat will be so helpful with their warnings.
Looking at the whole fall, the game is clearly designed to prevent the player from reaching any platforms or recovery points until they touch the ground. So it's an unfair fall by design. I can forgive some of the other parts of the game that are a hard or punishing but let you recover after a relatively short fall, but this? This is just bullying.
Instead of whining about this on a UA-cam video that the dev of the game wont see, why don't you man up and tell them about how you feel Mr. game dev. Guess you didn't play many old school games where if you died near the end of the game, you had to start over from the beginning if you had no more continues. Gamers/devs these days are babies compared to gamers/devs of the past.
@@HoloProEnjoyer Oh, I spent my childhood playing NES and SNES games and also DOS games that had no saves and needed to be finished in one sitting. Super Mario Bros and Prince of Persia come to mind. In those games, you lost because of your own mistakes, not because of a troll trap. You had 3 lives (on average) and checkpoints (sometimes). You didn't get sent to the beginning of the game just because the dev decided to put a hidden trap that has no correlation to the rest of the game experience. And I mean this part especially. Up to that point, in this game you know you can slide to the side while falling to aim for a platform below and recover yourself. This specific trap prevents the player from doing that by activating invisible walls. That doesn't follow the game rules and is just a bad way of making a game "more challenging".
Also, regarding your suggestion to "tell the devs how you feel", do you really think I'd be the first person to tell them about it? And do you think they'd change something they put there on purpose to troll the player? I don't think so. So the best I can do is point out their unfair game design in a YT video comment that nobody will read. Except you. XD
Its not even an unfair game design. Its plainly wrong.
@@HoloProEnjoyerOk boomer
@@HoloProEnjoyerbuddy, this dumb game plagiarised a bunch of the assets and abused the free non-commercial ones, the game design is purely dumb and unfair. Old school games dont last for hours like this abomination, even getting over it wasnt this bad and actually had balance, this is a game that some kid who took a look at GOI and a bunch of free assets and thought "how can i make smth similar but still sell" and this pile of trash came to be. Also the game has so many bugs and errors that a separate speedrun category had to be made
Hope has descended
That fall is a hardcoded full reset.
Her Japanese Side came out for quite a bit this moment lmao
Hope descended, and she was quite upset about it.
All kind of emotions shock, angry, sadness, funny, confusions and acceptance in bilingual examples.
And rolling in the air
The only warning in this section is that there is a second longer path to your left when you go trough that arch. And that things can fall down is teased earlier in the ice region (where the platforms break).
Later I also learned that you can jump on the platform when your jump on the second pizza.
DO A FLIP
She can only watch in pure agony… oof
All Hope is Lost
there is no hope...only despair
At this point there should be a compilation with different Vtubers falling down and their reaction)
Even tho this is unquestionably bad game design, in exchange we get to see a lore-accurate depiction of hope descending.
I wouldnt be playing this, but thanks for the entertainment.
That fall is all the proof you need to tell that the developers never had any intention of making a good game. They just wanted to make a Getting Over It ripoff while using nonsense trolls to increase difficulty since they couldn't be bothered to make fair difficulty.
🤓
Yeah, if they were going to troll or make a trial-and-error segment to put it very generously, they should have at least placed a platform to catch the player.
And in exchange they got popular. I dont like where this is going; developers developing for purpose of entertainment instead of actually implementing proper game design by the rules.
They probably did not expect the game to be popular, but because of the exposure of a few popular streamers especially pekora.
@@alfredong6850 I can't tell if you are being sarcastic or not, but this game was not designed to be entertaining. It was designed to be challenging. It is a blatant attempt to be a "beat this if you have the skillz" type of game. They are just trying to taunt people, and, unfortunately, it's working.
There aren't enough people who understand the difference between a fair challenge and unfair nonsense. A fair challenge will always be the player's fault for their failure while unfair nonsense are unpredictable traps like we see here. It's important to pay attention to why something is difficult.
@@kylerivera3470 You call it a game. I call it "entertainment software". Thats how badly designed of a 'game' it is. It is not designed with the intent to challenge players, its designed with the intent to entertain viewers; these clips are undeniable proof.
To me this is beyond comparison of a "difference between a fair challenge and unfair nonsense. " Because any reason for the developer to place that 'trap' is unlikely to be any of the 2.
okaeRyS XDDDDD
RageRyS 😠
Why did she wait so long to hit the slow down and look for a good fall point?
I just can't understand that level of panic lol... She could have EASILY hit that first bird platform probably but just lost her cool so bad
It wouldn't have worked. That particular part of the game is designed so that if you step on the cheese, it will bring you pretty much all the way back down to the bottom without any chance of recovery. Something about invisible walls built in there like a funnel or something like that.
She is not the first who did that and wasn't able to recover. The game simply screws you over
Pretty sure that fall is made so that you can't recover
@@sleeplessknight99 Can confirm same thing happened to me. For some reason I couldn't move like normal to reach anything. Not sure why they made a trap near the end of the game just to break all the rules and kill you.
1:28 I love the one guy in chat that went "LORE ACCURATE" lmao
I remember learning about that trick platform via a VTuber Universe clip of Shien falling through it. And man, IRyS's panic as she fell quickly left a mark on my mind. XD
After *that* Pekora stream, some Holostars knew something was tricky about this part and still fell.
And that is how Hope descended.
The 1st time.
This reminds me...
Stream Gravity, guys!
Hope said it herself.
"I hate this world"
-Irys
june 27, 2023
Guess you could say
Despair has descended 💀
Upupupupu...
I always love Irys`s Nani Sore. Lmao
HOPE IS DESCENDING
I would've alt+F4'd before touching the ground and never touched the game again.
1:40 HAHAHA, truly a genius comedian
so that's how to use the roll lol
Hope have descended...
...flat on her face, curling hugging her knees, crying
Hope has lost all it's hope
this is pretty lore accurate
shes just re-enacting her caesura of despair MV!
This game manages to be as frustrating as Jump King and Getting Over It but cranks it up to 11
Jump King and Getting Over It have long falls, but they don't try to deceive you about it. If you fall in those games, it's a skill issue. Here, the game is deliberately trying to trick you into falling, and there's no clue whatsoever to hint that it may be a trap. It's deliberate asshole design.
This is the epitome of asset flip shovelware.
00:35 "Oh look hope descends. Why is she screaming doom?"
at the start: 😀
at the end: 😐
The fallen angel fall from heaven live on stage
My goodness she is in a panic attack in Japanese and English at the same time my goodness that is gravity in real life 1:44 😮😮
Bruh, the snake ride from Getting Over It is NOTHING compared to that BS...
Is Irys the first one to fall to that rainbow bridge trap?
Also, classic Irys reading one trap comment over the ten warning comments
Nope, Pekora also fell, not sure about Cali.
It might be akutan first.. then pekora later.... and maybe fubuki didn't get trapped by this? Not 100% sure. Just to give an early answer from my perspective here. Somebody who watches everything will probably correct me.
Pekora was felled first. Fubuki crossed the pizzas safely before stepping on the large cheese. Koyori failed to land on the plate, therefore not counted as trapped, and so was not funneled all the way to the bottom. Then Aqua.
@@fuwafuwahotchkiss I cant stop laughing at the phrase "Fubuki crossed the pizzas safely before stepping on the large cheese".
@@Priogen By the time Calli reached this point, she was open about the fact that she would quit if she fell all the way down, so she had been warned far in advance. She crossed on the platforms to the left.
Just like her debut! Kinda nostalgic
It's not trolling because trolling is funny. This is just creating a situation where the player is almost certainly going to fail and then calling it funny because you're a hack. I wish these games would stop getting so much attention.
When the hope turns into despair
She found the perfect sweet spot to fall in - exactly between every asset.
No, the game activates invisible walls.
There is a tube straight to the bottom, it's no way to escape it if you fall from rainbow circle
That is very mean for a game design to be honest.
😈😈😈 hope has descended 😂
Hope has descended
Aqua: lets get the collab
best bgm haha...
1:09 🗿 🤝
Yes.
#mindbreak
Back to the Fabellas 😂
Hope has seriously descended this time
She fell so deep that she reached terminal velocity.
why would you skip the actual cursing part noooooooo
The part you're thinking of is probably from her stream after this one.
I assume the part where she gets stuck on the beanstock and starts cursing afterwards
hope has descending XD
If I fell all the way to the ground from so high up due to such a cheap trap, I'd install a trainer that allows you to fly in the game in order to have revenge.
I hate that game. This is painful and cringe to watch
#mindbreak
This feels like one of those GTA 5 community games that Achievement Hunter would play.
Hope has descended 😢
*IRS Tries It™: Bugged Jumping Mechanics (Skyward Sword Edition)*
At the start of the video she's 75% angel, but at the end she became 95% demon
The moment Hope descended
I saw the close up on the #irysart hashtag, and was thinking it was #irysalt
And that how Hope descended & shattered ....... Oof
Well, at least IRyS fulfilled my wishlist, I really want to see what happens when people fall straight down in this game.. lol
Poor irys. She fell from grace. *plays drums*
Hope has descended yet again.
Literally fell through the five stages. Impressive.
I'd log off lmao
Hope has descended and she's getting mental breakdown
Hope has descended and she is full of despair
I have never seen someone fall so perfectly
when hope was abandoned....
When hope hates everything, we failed humanity.
That zenloss bgm. When hope become hopeless.
Oh no that spot again😂
ah yes another victim
I think someone just rode the snake...
No, because the snake actually warns you to not ride it. This is just a middle finger fueled flipped with spite.
RIP
i've seen a clip where you can glitch through something by rolling and you can finish the game under a two minutes and my tiny ass brain can't comprehend what happen
I miss her old model.. There's something abt this new model that makes it unbearable to watch. She was a waifu that suddenly turned to an infant
Is the color too bright for you? I think her new model is cute and attractive.
girl legit call for god's help
1:11 PupRys is so cute even though she's suffering I can't help but repeat thos few seconds over 100 times before leaving this vid.
That platform is biggest Fu** you devs could have made for their players.
Games could be frustrating but in those types of games you don't expect the dev to make a trap because the game is already difficult.
Don't remember Getting Over It or Jump King increasing the difficulty (what in this game is mostly just the time spent on climbing) by "lying" to the player.
I would expect something like that in I wanna be the Guy/Boshi as they are difficult and unfair, but not from such game 🫤
I played it myself and fell for this dirty trick too. There's no warning, and no expected reason to introduce a trap mechanic right near the end of the game. The game gave an impression of hard but fair, with failure being on your own mistake, and then it does this to you. It sends you all the way to the beginning. After this you realize there's no point to continue playing if you will lose 2 hours of climbing progress, just because the devs might have another trap ahead to just artificially kill you.