You failed to mention the Irish-American contribution to America's armed forces. More Irish-Americans have been awarded the Medal of Honor than from any other immigrant group. Irish-American heroism in the Civil War did much to change anti-Irish American prejudice.
The video was about prejudice against the Irish. There will be a future video on Irish contributions to USA and it will be mentioned there. It’s difficult to mention so many things because the video will become so long and attention spans are getting shorter nowadays😀. But thanks 🙏🏾
The ‘Know-nothings’ were not just in England they were in the U.S. also waiting when the Irish came. The Irish people who through the monks in their monasteries kept learning alive in the dark age and brought it to Continental Europe were now being mistreated by the people whose ancestors had been saved by their learning. The descendants of the Anglo-Saxons when they had an Empire brutalized their neighbors the Irish. Ireland is flourishing now and is tech savvy while the Brits with their adulterous royals are barely getting by. Away from the cities it is desolation in England. Go to the remotest corner of Ireland into any pub, you will find intelligence, good humor, or craic as it is called, and books galore; reading is not a lost art there, or writing, or prize winning either.
Great video, sadly there's not a lot out there in History Unless we search for our Histories Irish was mine, as the Irish in America is part of Irish History it's always been of interest to me Thank you 🕊
Not that surprising that in 19th century Irish faced prejudice. The American population was made up since 1600s of mainly immigrants from England. So by the time Irish immigrants came America. Most Americans were of English descent and who religion was Protestant and we all know the English and Irish had issues with each other mainly on the Protestant and Catholic divide going back to Oliver Cromwell. That said the Irish catholics proved themselves in Civil war and then went forth and multiplied and they got more support when other immigrants arrived who did not have the same prejudice that the English in America had. However to cut a long story short. After about 190 years of intermarriage and mixing. You could argue most of the American population has some sort of Irish ancenstry somewhere. In time Irish Catholic communities did better than the original English Protestant-Americans and became community leaders and went into politics and became mayors in cities like New York, Boston and Chigago. To the point if you go to America you won't hear much about AMerica's original English identiy. Everything Ireland is celebrated in America. Also AMerican revolutionary war and AMerica wanting a break from England also helped in the Irish favour. Since the Irish also fought against the English to free their country. In the end the original prejudice disappeared and they became celebrated heros of American society and held high esteem with Irish American Presidents like John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan getting the highest political office in the land.
Its fascinating how the Irish a white race, we're so hated, ☘️,it started with Gerrard of Wales account of the Norman conquest, and the then Norman new Irish ☘️,became hated just like the natives, ☘️☘️☘️
Good video. Those who now laud the Irish should realise that major immigrant groups always give rise to fear and resentement. If Americans looked at Latin American immigrants, or Europeans looked at Mid-Eastern & African immigrants as the "New Irish" then perhaps they might understand that assimilation is not only natural, it's an imperative for immigrants. From an Irishman.
Cute video, but realistically we are not talking about anything that lasted more than a generation or two, out of a multi-century history. Anti-Irish prejudice had a relatively brief heyday in the middle of the 19th Century, and was confined almost completely to a handful of cities in the Northeast, at a time when most Americans were rural. To project what was going on in the immigrant sections of New York City or Boston to the rest of "America" is not the sort of leap that can be easily sustained. In the American West, Irish Catholics arrived as part of a colonizing force, and they integrated with other white settlers quickly. California elected an Irish-born governor, John Gately Downey, before the Civil War, who was unfortunately a slaveowner. Irish-American labor groups in California also lobbied successfully for the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act, which banned Chinese immigration at a time when Irish immigration was picking up again. As is typical for UA-cam "history," this video misses critical context and is one-sided in the extreme. Whig narratives that portray history as a progression from a dark, benighted past to a "glorious present" are more BS than not, and this is no exception.
A generation or 2 is a long time, and it lasted way longer than that. These sentiments only cooled around 1970 after the Kennedy presidency, and it started way back in the mid 1800s. And it went beyond Boston and NY as it occurred everywhere Irish Catholic communities existed or anywhere with a local kkk.
@@ValorandVice 1970? I don't know where you've learned history, but you're highly confused about a great many things. Your dates are way off, you make assertions but don't back them up, and you offer no context or any references. "Everybody knows this stuff" so no need to cite a source, right? Unfortunately, most of what people like you _think_ they know about this history is wrong -it's just a collection of stories you heard second or third hand. Feel free to cite a scholarly source arguing that anti-Irish discrimination was a significant factor in a state like California, preferably one with specific examples of this playing out in the historical record.
You can check the description for the citations; they are listed at the bottom. While anti-Irish sentiment was not as prominent in California as in other states, it did still occur, with the Know-Nothings and the KKK active in the region. Many books have been written on this topic, and while interpretations may vary on when the sentiment started or ended, the historical fact remains that it gained momentum with the arrival of Irish immigrants during the famine, peaked in the late 1800s, and continued into the 20th century. It began to decline significantly after John F. Kennedy's election, and by the 1970s, it had largely dissipated.
The US version was NO IRISH NEED APPLY. The English equivalent was NO BLACKS, NO DOGS, NO IRISH and these signs were recorded up until the 1960s. The Irish assimilated quicker in the US as it is (was) open to immigrants more than the Old World and the Irish organised very well politically due to the experience of resisting the English colonisers in Ireland. But final acceptance took more than a few generations, as clearly evidenced by the fact that JFK had to explicitly deny that his Catholic faith would not compromise his candidacy for president.
Some irish may go on referring to this, but any "anti-irish rhetoric" never lasted all that long, certainly not in comparison to Anti-semitism, racism against African Americans, Mexicans etc.
They use their fields mostly for pasture. Little is cultivated and even less is sown. The problem here is not the quality of the soil but rather the lack of industry on the part of those who should cultivate it. This laziness means that the different types of minerals with which hidden veins of the earth are full are neither mined nor exploited in any way. They do not devote themselves to the manufacture of flax or wool, nor to the practice of any mechanical or mercantile act. Dedicated only to leisure and laziness, this is a truly barbarous people. They depend on animals for their livelihood and they live like animals. Gerald of Wales, Giraldus, John Joseph O'Meara. The History and Topography of Ireland. Penguin Classics, 1982. Page 102. I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours. Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860 Yes, I am a Jew, and when the [Irish] ancestors of the Right Honourable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon. Benjamin Disraeli Ireland is like a half-starved rat that crosses the path of an elephant. What must the elephant do? Squelch it - by heavens - squelch it. - Thomas Carlyle, British essayist, 1840s How godly a deed it is to overthrow so wicked a race the world may judge: for my part I think there cannot be a greater sacrifice to God. - Edward Barkley, describing how the forces of the Earl of Essex slaughtered the entire population of Rathlin Island, Co. Antrim, 1575 ...more like squalid apes than human beings. ...unstable as water. ...only efficient military despotism [can succeed in Ireland] ...the wild Irish understand only force. - James Anthony Froude, Professor of history, Oxford This would be a grand land if only every Irishman would kill a Negro, and be hanged for it. I find this sentiment generally approved - sometimes with the qualification that they want Irish and Negroes for servants, not being able to get any other. - British historian Edward Freeman, writing on his return from America, about 1881 A creature manifestly between the Gorilla and the Negro is to be met with in some of the lowest districts of London and Liverpool by adventurous explorers. It comes from Ireland, whence it has contrived to migrate; it belongs in fact to a tribe of Irish savages: the lowest species of Irish Yahoo. When conversing with its kind it talks a sort of gibberish. It is, moreover, a climbing animal, and may sometimes be seen ascending a ladder ladden with a hod of bricks. Satire entitled "The Missing Link", from the British magazine Punch, 1862 A Celt will soon be as rare on the banks of the Shannon as the red man on the banks of Manhattan. - The Times, editorial, 1848 I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours. - Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860
@cathalodiubhain5739 0 seconds ago They use their fields mostly for pasture. Little is cultivated and even less is sown. The problem here is not the quality of the soil but rather the lack of industry on the part of those who should cultivate it. This laziness means that the different types of minerals with which hidden veins of the earth are full are neither mined nor exploited in any way. They do not devote themselves to the manufacture of flax or wool, nor to the practice of any mechanical or mercantile act. Dedicated only to leisure and laziness, this is a truly barbarous people. They depend on animals for their livelihood and they live like animals. Gerald of Wales, Giraldus, John Joseph O'Meara. The History and Topography of Ireland. Penguin Classics, 1982. Page 102. I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours. Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860 Yes, I am a Jew, and when the [Irish] ancestors of the Right Honourable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon. Benjamin Disraeli Ireland is like a half-starved rat that crosses the path of an elephant. What must the elephant do? Squelch it - by heavens - squelch it. - Thomas Carlyle, British essayist, 1840s How godly a deed it is to overthrow so wicked a race the world may judge: for my part I think there cannot be a greater sacrifice to God. - Edward Barkley, describing how the forces of the Earl of Essex slaughtered the entire population of Rathlin Island, Co. Antrim, 1575 ...more like squalid apes than human beings. ...unstable as water. ...only efficient military despotism [can succeed in Ireland] ...the wild Irish understand only force. - James Anthony Froude, Professor of history, Oxford This would be a grand land if only every Irishman would kill a Negro, and be hanged for it. I find this sentiment generally approved - sometimes with the qualification that they want Irish and Negroes for servants, not being able to get any other. - British historian Edward Freeman, writing on his return from America, about 1881 A creature manifestly between the Gorilla and the Negro is to be met with in some of the lowest districts of London and Liverpool by adventurous explorers. It comes from Ireland, whence it has contrived to migrate; it belongs in fact to a tribe of Irish savages: the lowest species of Irish Yahoo. When conversing with its kind it talks a sort of gibberish. It is, moreover, a climbing animal, and may sometimes be seen ascending a ladder ladden with a hod of bricks. Satire entitled "The Missing Link", from the British magazine Punch, 1862 A Celt will soon be as rare on the banks of the Shannon as the red man on the banks of Manhattan. - The Times, editorial, 1848 I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours. - Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860
You failed to mention the Irish-American contribution to America's armed forces. More Irish-Americans have been awarded the Medal of Honor than from any other immigrant group. Irish-American heroism in the Civil War did much to change anti-Irish American prejudice.
The video was about prejudice against the Irish. There will be a future video on Irish contributions to USA and it will be mentioned there. It’s difficult to mention so many things because the video will become so long and attention spans are getting shorter nowadays😀. But thanks 🙏🏾
The ‘Know-nothings’ were not just in England they were in the U.S. also waiting when the Irish came. The Irish people who through the monks in their monasteries kept learning alive in the dark age and brought it to Continental Europe were now being mistreated by the people whose ancestors had been saved by their learning. The descendants of the Anglo-Saxons when they had an Empire brutalized their neighbors the Irish. Ireland is flourishing now and is tech savvy while the Brits with their adulterous royals are barely getting by. Away from the cities it is desolation in England. Go to the remotest corner of Ireland into any pub, you will find intelligence, good humor, or craic as it is called, and books galore; reading is not a lost art there, or writing, or prize winning either.
Great video, sadly there's not a lot out there in History Unless we search for our Histories Irish was mine, as the Irish in America is part of Irish History it's always been of interest to me Thank you 🕊
Not that surprising that in 19th century Irish faced prejudice. The American population was made up since 1600s of mainly immigrants from England. So by the time Irish immigrants came America. Most Americans were of English descent and who religion was Protestant and we all know the English and Irish had issues with each other mainly on the Protestant and Catholic divide going back to Oliver Cromwell. That said the Irish catholics proved themselves in Civil war and then went forth and multiplied and they got more support when other immigrants arrived who did not have the same prejudice that the English in America had. However to cut a long story short. After about 190 years of intermarriage and mixing. You could argue most of the American population has some sort of Irish ancenstry somewhere. In time Irish Catholic communities did better than the original English Protestant-Americans and became community leaders and went into politics and became mayors in cities like New York, Boston and Chigago. To the point if you go to America you won't hear much about AMerica's original English identiy. Everything Ireland is celebrated in America. Also AMerican revolutionary war and AMerica wanting a break from England also helped in the Irish favour. Since the Irish also fought against the English to free their country. In the end the original prejudice disappeared and they became celebrated heros of American society and held high esteem with Irish American Presidents like John F Kennedy and Ronald Reagan getting the highest political office in the land.
And never forget that in England there were public notices the said 'No blacks, No Dogs, No Irish'
We the Irish felt we were a pure race.
We are one of the lost tribes.
Who was the South American dictator who had an Irish wife? He had an odd nickname.
In Englamd we the Irish were rated lower than dogs . Never forget
[Pph] 'The Clan was a Protestant movement ... they burnt crosses ...' Anyone see the contradiction here?
Its fascinating how the Irish a white race, we're so hated, ☘️,it started with Gerrard of Wales account of the Norman conquest, and the then Norman new Irish ☘️,became hated just like the natives, ☘️☘️☘️
Good video. Those who now laud the Irish should realise that major immigrant groups always give rise to fear and resentement.
If Americans looked at Latin American immigrants, or Europeans looked at Mid-Eastern & African immigrants as the "New Irish" then perhaps they might understand that assimilation is not only natural, it's an imperative for immigrants.
From an Irishman.
Wasps everywhere.!!!
Cute video, but realistically we are not talking about anything that lasted more than a generation or two, out of a multi-century history. Anti-Irish prejudice had a relatively brief heyday in the middle of the 19th Century, and was confined almost completely to a handful of cities in the Northeast, at a time when most Americans were rural. To project what was going on in the immigrant sections of New York City or Boston to the rest of "America" is not the sort of leap that can be easily sustained.
In the American West, Irish Catholics arrived as part of a colonizing force, and they integrated with other white settlers quickly. California elected an Irish-born governor, John Gately Downey, before the Civil War, who was unfortunately a slaveowner. Irish-American labor groups in California also lobbied successfully for the passage of the Chinese Exclusion Act, which banned Chinese immigration at a time when Irish immigration was picking up again.
As is typical for UA-cam "history," this video misses critical context and is one-sided in the extreme. Whig narratives that portray history as a progression from a dark, benighted past to a "glorious present" are more BS than not, and this is no exception.
A generation or 2 is a long time, and it lasted way longer than that. These sentiments only cooled around 1970 after the Kennedy presidency, and it started way back in the mid 1800s. And it went beyond Boston and NY as it occurred everywhere Irish Catholic communities existed or anywhere with a local kkk.
@@ValorandVice 1970? I don't know where you've learned history, but you're highly confused about a great many things. Your dates are way off, you make assertions but don't back them up, and you offer no context or any references. "Everybody knows this stuff" so no need to cite a source, right?
Unfortunately, most of what people like you _think_ they know about this history is wrong -it's just a collection of stories you heard second or third hand. Feel free to cite a scholarly source arguing that anti-Irish discrimination was a significant factor in a state like California, preferably one with specific examples of this playing out in the historical record.
You can check the description for the citations; they are listed at the bottom. While anti-Irish sentiment was not as prominent in California as in other states, it did still occur, with the Know-Nothings and the KKK active in the region. Many books have been written on this topic, and while interpretations may vary on when the sentiment started or ended, the historical fact remains that it gained momentum with the arrival of Irish immigrants during the famine, peaked in the late 1800s, and continued into the 20th century. It began to decline significantly after John F. Kennedy's election, and by the 1970s, it had largely dissipated.
@@ValorandVice Noel Ignatiev's book is discredited, Kevin Kenny does not agree with your narrative, and neither does Gleeson.
The US version was NO IRISH NEED APPLY. The English equivalent was NO BLACKS, NO DOGS, NO IRISH and these signs were recorded up until the 1960s. The Irish assimilated quicker in the US as it is (was) open to immigrants more than the Old World and the Irish organised very well politically due to the experience of resisting the English colonisers in Ireland. But final acceptance took more than a few generations, as clearly evidenced by the fact that JFK had to explicitly deny that his Catholic faith would not compromise his candidacy for president.
Some irish may go on referring to this, but any "anti-irish rhetoric" never lasted all that long, certainly not in comparison to Anti-semitism, racism against African Americans, Mexicans etc.
800 years ..
Learn your history
They use their fields mostly for pasture. Little is cultivated and even less is sown. The problem here is not the quality of the soil but rather the lack of industry on the part of those who should cultivate it. This laziness means that the different types of minerals with which hidden veins of the earth are full are neither mined nor exploited in any way. They do not devote themselves to the manufacture of flax or wool, nor to the practice of any mechanical or mercantile act. Dedicated only to leisure and laziness, this is a truly barbarous people. They depend on animals for their livelihood and they live like animals.
Gerald of Wales, Giraldus, John Joseph O'Meara. The History and Topography of Ireland. Penguin Classics, 1982. Page 102.
I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours.
Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860
Yes, I am a Jew, and when the [Irish] ancestors of the Right Honourable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon. Benjamin Disraeli
Ireland is like a half-starved rat that crosses the path of an elephant. What must the elephant do? Squelch it - by heavens - squelch it.
- Thomas Carlyle, British essayist, 1840s
How godly a deed it is to overthrow so wicked a race the world may judge: for my part I think there cannot be a greater sacrifice to God.
- Edward Barkley, describing how the forces of the Earl of Essex slaughtered the entire population of Rathlin Island, Co. Antrim, 1575
...more like squalid apes than human beings. ...unstable as water. ...only efficient military despotism [can succeed in Ireland] ...the wild Irish understand only force.
- James Anthony Froude, Professor of history, Oxford
This would be a grand land if only every Irishman would kill a Negro, and be hanged for it. I find this sentiment generally approved - sometimes with the qualification that they want Irish and Negroes for servants, not being able to get any other.
- British historian Edward Freeman, writing on his return from America, about 1881
A creature manifestly between the Gorilla and the Negro is to be met with in some of the lowest districts of London and Liverpool by adventurous explorers. It comes from Ireland, whence it has contrived to migrate; it belongs in fact to a tribe of Irish savages: the lowest species of Irish Yahoo. When conversing with its kind it talks a sort of gibberish. It is, moreover, a climbing animal, and may sometimes be seen ascending a ladder ladden with a hod of bricks.
Satire entitled "The Missing Link", from the British magazine Punch, 1862
A Celt will soon be as rare on the banks of the Shannon as the red man on the banks of Manhattan.
- The Times, editorial, 1848
I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours.
- Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860
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They use their fields mostly for pasture. Little is cultivated and even less is sown. The problem here is not the quality of the soil but rather the lack of industry on the part of those who should cultivate it. This laziness means that the different types of minerals with which hidden veins of the earth are full are neither mined nor exploited in any way. They do not devote themselves to the manufacture of flax or wool, nor to the practice of any mechanical or mercantile act. Dedicated only to leisure and laziness, this is a truly barbarous people. They depend on animals for their livelihood and they live like animals.
Gerald of Wales, Giraldus, John Joseph O'Meara. The History and Topography of Ireland. Penguin Classics, 1982. Page 102.
I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours.
Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860
Yes, I am a Jew, and when the [Irish] ancestors of the Right Honourable gentleman were brutal savages in an unknown island, mine were priests in the temple of Solomon. Benjamin Disraeli
Ireland is like a half-starved rat that crosses the path of an elephant. What must the elephant do? Squelch it - by heavens - squelch it.
- Thomas Carlyle, British essayist, 1840s
How godly a deed it is to overthrow so wicked a race the world may judge: for my part I think there cannot be a greater sacrifice to God.
- Edward Barkley, describing how the forces of the Earl of Essex slaughtered the entire population of Rathlin Island, Co. Antrim, 1575
...more like squalid apes than human beings. ...unstable as water. ...only efficient military despotism [can succeed in Ireland] ...the wild Irish understand only force.
- James Anthony Froude, Professor of history, Oxford
This would be a grand land if only every Irishman would kill a Negro, and be hanged for it. I find this sentiment generally approved - sometimes with the qualification that they want Irish and Negroes for servants, not being able to get any other.
- British historian Edward Freeman, writing on his return from America, about 1881
A creature manifestly between the Gorilla and the Negro is to be met with in some of the lowest districts of London and Liverpool by adventurous explorers. It comes from Ireland, whence it has contrived to migrate; it belongs in fact to a tribe of Irish savages: the lowest species of Irish Yahoo. When conversing with its kind it talks a sort of gibberish. It is, moreover, a climbing animal, and may sometimes be seen ascending a ladder ladden with a hod of bricks.
Satire entitled "The Missing Link", from the British magazine Punch, 1862
A Celt will soon be as rare on the banks of the Shannon as the red man on the banks of Manhattan.
- The Times, editorial, 1848
I am haunted by the human chimpanzees I saw along that hundred miles of horrible country...to see white chimpanzees is dreadful; if they were black one would not see it so much, but their skins, except where tanned by exposure, are as white as ours.
- Cambridge historian Charles Kingsley, letter to his wife from Ireland, 1860
Because they had thrift and ambition
to rise go onward and up.